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#206 - Candace Owens vs. Erica Kirk: The Gloves Are OFF · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Erica Kirk has now spoken out about all these allegations that have been coming
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  across against TP USA, Turning Port USA. I always get that always mixed up.
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  But now she's actually speaking about it. I knew it was going to build up to this.
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  And now she has voiced her opinion. And you can see that immediately Candace
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  Owens took it against her.
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  Erica Kirk did not explicitly say Candace Owens when she was on Fox News and
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  brought all this up, but Candace Owens directed it to herself and she,
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  and I think we knew this was going to happen because Candace Owens for these
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  past three months, she's has said, if Erica says for me to stop, I will stop.
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  Now Erica Kirk is, she's speaking out as the CEO.
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  And we're going to see what Candace Owens' reaction was to it.
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  And you can see it on the screen here.
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  So for me, you want to keep telling me to come down while we're building?
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  I don't have time for that.
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  But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me. Call me names.
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  I don't care. Call me what you want.
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  Go down that rabbit hole. Whatever. But when you go after my family,
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  my Turning Point USA family, my Charlie Kirk show family,
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  when you go after the people that I love and you're making hundreds and thousands
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  of dollars every single episode going after the people that I love because somehow they're in on this.
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  No, I'm sorry, but that that whole thing right there is frustrating.
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  And I'm going to explain to you why I just I just do not accept any of that.
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  First and foremost, the idea that she does not have time.
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  Okay, she definitely has time, okay? She's done Hannity, she's done The Five,
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  she's done Fox and Friends.
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  So that is Candace's reaction. You can see that she is a little bit flabbergasted
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  that Erica is saying that she does not have time for this.
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  And she definitely, and she brings up that she's been all these shows out there.
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  She's went to meet with President Trump and things that seem very menial don't really matter at all.
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  But I'd say if you go in to see the president, whatever the occasion is,
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  I think it's pretty important, but she brings up about that that is an issue
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  and that she should give her, Candace Owens, the time of day to come talk with her.
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  Erica did not explicitly say, Candace Owens, when she brings up these charges,
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  when she brings up that she's getting tired of it, she's getting fed up.
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  And as the CEO, she stepped into the CEO position, which maybe was not the best
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  idea, but it's what she did.
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  It's what she chose to do. And as the CEO, it's not maybe the greatest idea
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  to go and speak with a podcaster and talk about all these issues. If you remember...
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  What is that drink called? Liquid Death. The CEO got into it with Tim Pool, who is a podcaster.
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  And I think that damaged their brand being sucked into that.
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  That's why I would say the smart thing for Erica to do would not be to talk
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  with Candace Owens directly about this.
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  She did welcome her and invite her to come down to Turning Point and air all these things out.
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  But Candace has rejected that, which she did have her opportunity.
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  She could. She still could. It's going to be on Monday that she this is all going to go down.
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  That Turning Point is going to do this. But Candace said she would not do that.
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  I think it's just kind of ridiculous that Candace is keeps pushing this.
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  She has the opportunity to actually meet these things head on, but she will not do it.
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  I knew it would go to the breach, this breaking point that Erica is going to
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  lash out and she is tired of it.
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  She's fed up in the background. We know she has probably been rolling her eyes
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  and probably like her heart's been just burning.
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  With like resentment that can't every episode that Candace brings up and keeps,
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  because she started off with the Israel thing. Israel was behind it.
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  And then it's branched out. And now it's all these threads that are pulling everyone in.
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  And now it's like the bottom line is its turning point. It was an inside job.
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  They were the one that killed their best friend.
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  They killed Erica's husband, which Erica, like almost it's been insinuating
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  that Erica has been behind it as well.
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  I know Candace always gives herself the way out that she's not specifically
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  saying this is it's but it's always how I feel not that she was objectively
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  saying they did it and accusing them directly and say it like because she wants
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  to have plausible deniability.
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  She doesn't want to be where if this if she does get sued or whatever she always
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  gives herself that way out.
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  But it's like you're insinuating everyone and the whole thing about making money
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  if Candace wants to make money.
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  I think that's go ahead if you want to make
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  money however you're going to do it you know that's that's
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  your thing I don't think there's nothing wrong with doing a a news
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  show and talking about this I don't think there's anything wrong with
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  that but I just think it's it's almost a little bit two-faced because the whole
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  time she's been saying like about Erica if Erica speaks out about this I love
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  Charlie I I'm gonna back down I'm gonna stop Erica didn't even specifically
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  name Candace but she's now she's saying she directed it towards herself and now she doesn't want to.
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  Go and talk with her in person, in person, just do it. I mean,
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  you know, who was inviting you.
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  You could say that the people that Erica has below her are the ones that extended
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  the invitation, but it came from the top down.
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  Erica wanted Candace to come there.
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  She has that opportunity.
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  This is, it's beyond the pale. It's going a little bit too far.
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  I don't think, I don't think there's anything wrong with Candace making money.
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  It's her show. She's a podcaster.
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  That's what she does all day. and she investigates stuff. So I...
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  I don't want to think about her motives because really, I mean,
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  that's between her, her and herself and her and God. That's between why she's doing it.
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  I think she really wants to get to the truth of the matter.
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  She's going off on all these tangents and all these different ways about it, which is interesting.
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  I think if we kind of back out and just say, is this going to do more harm than good in the long run?
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  Really? I don't think, I think she is seeing very short term.
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  She wants to see what actually happened. what actually happened,
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  not wait till trial, not wait till we see what, uh, what evidence people bring
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  against the alleged killer who did it and all that, that she wants to error.
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  She wants to get through it. Now she wants to find out and she's pulling all
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  these different strings and saying everyone's involved, which that would be insane.
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  If that is actually going down, if everyone just got together and they're able
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  to do this perfect, this perfect job of killing Charlie Kirk,
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  which, and have everyone in on it, everyone in on it.
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  But Candace, you have your opportunity.
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  Erica, you can go down to Turning Point and talk about these things in person.
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  You don't just need to react to it and live stream what they're talking about.
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  You don't have to do that. You can actually go there and talk with them and talk it all out.
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  I don't know why she what exactly she what caused her to immediately back out
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  of that that's i i don't that's seemed kind of crazy to me a apac israeli propaganda
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  i i don't what is apac israeli propaganda what is apac are you saying that.
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  Israel is just involved. Who, who does Israel just do it? And they just completely backed out.
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  I think Israel, they, I don't think there was anything involved with Israel with this.
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  That it's just, we're making Israel the boogeyman. They're behind every corner. They're everywhere.
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  That's what I see it as. I see it as there are things that Israel is, is involved in.
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  They're intertwined in all of our, all of our society, you know,
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  and we're not going to just be able to remove Jewish people from our society and our way of life.
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  They're, they're everywhere. And I think that's a great thing. They're everywhere.
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  I love Jewish people, you know? So if like, if it's because you're saying that
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  they're, they're the ones behind it and they're promoting propaganda against this.
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  I, I don't, I don't see where they stand to benefit there. They always want
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  to make themselves in the greatest light and to have their, their biggest spokesman,
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  their biggest champion, Charlie Kirk in the USA killed.
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  I, I don't see it. I don't see it at all, but I'm not saying Tyler Robinson
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  is the guy because it is interesting.
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  You know, I, I'm not a person that just knows somebody ballistics and a ballistics
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  expert where I know like if that type of gun, what it would do if it hit his
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  neck, you know, that whatever it is, the 30 out six,
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  it would seem that it would do more than that. But I mean, stranger things have happened.
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  But I just think that Candace Owens with all this, it's reached a boiling point.
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  And I knew Erica was going to speak out about this. I knew it. We knew she was going to.
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  And she has. She has said it.
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  And she's throwing it out there. And Candace is running with it for her own
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  things and use it for her own ends and purposes, which I think it's just,
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  ultimately, it's about views. Let's be honest.
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  It's about views. It's about, you know, building her, her reach or whatever.
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  And that, I mean, and that's great and all, you know, but to,
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  to just make it, make it seem that it's purely about getting to the bottom of it.
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  And truth is all that matters. I want to know what happened to Charlie Kirk.
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  You're, you have the opportunity to talk to his wife.
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  You, you could have, she would have been there. She would, she would,
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  will be there at turning point, but she's not going down there.
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  And that just it's that is
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  what is beyond the pale to me that she's not taking
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  that chance that she's not taking that opportunity maybe
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  she wants to just run with all these crazy
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  things and experience conspiracy things that are just out there that she just
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  keeps pushing but that's where i'm at on this i i think i think hannah should
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  just go do it but what do you all think drop a comment let me know what you
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