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The Spurs Continue To Dominate The OKC Thunder… · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: But then the Okac thunder loss to the Spurs again
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Speaker 1: a third time of what a week and a half,
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Speaker 1: as the Spurs team potentially being the kryptonite to the
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Speaker 1: them beating them three times and this span means everything
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Speaker 2: It's so funny how NBA discourse changes.
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Speaker 1: Right, just a week and a half to go before
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Speaker 1: they lost their first game in the NBA Cup against
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Speaker 1: the Spurs, if you listen to any NBA podcast, they
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Speaker 1: were having conversations about this OKAC thunder team potentially being
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Speaker 1: a team that can break the seventy three and nine
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Speaker 1: regular season record.
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Speaker 2: This team had looked that damn good and that damn dominant.
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Speaker 1: Even on our show we were talking in this hypothetical
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Speaker 1: world that they did end up beating that record. What
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Speaker 1: does that mean for Shake Gibs Alexander overall, for him
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Speaker 1: to have potentially two MVPs that point and have the
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Speaker 1: all time record for total games winning the season.
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Speaker 2: We were having a conversation. And since then this team
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Speaker 2: was off so many games.
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Speaker 1: I saw a tweet after they lost this one that
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Speaker 1: by the time the seventy three and nine Warriors lost
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Speaker 1: a fifth game, they had already had forty eight wins. Okay,
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Speaker 1: see only had twenty six, So that seventy three thing
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Speaker 1: is dead.
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Speaker 2: So maybe that's shift the perspective.
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Speaker 1: Because before they lost their game to the Spurs, Shay
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Speaker 1: went to that pregame podium and he was like, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the seventy three and nine record means a lot to us.
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Speaker 1: They not getting that. They're not getting that, but wow,
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Speaker 1: what another great game from the Spurs team. Bro it
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Speaker 1: is a breath of fresh air. My boy p has
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Speaker 1: said it before they only eight game winning streak, even
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Speaker 1: though they did lose that final game, they don't count.
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Speaker 1: My boy p has said it before that sometimes you
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Speaker 1: come into a season optimistic about a young team and
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Speaker 1: then they surprised you by being significantly better than what
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Speaker 1: you thought.
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Speaker 2: I was a believer in the Spurs as.
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Speaker 1: Far as like going over on there over when it
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Speaker 1: came to the total wins. I didn't see them being
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Speaker 1: the two seed in the Eastern Conference. I didn't see
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Speaker 1: them being in the contention conversation. But after you beat
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Speaker 1: a dominant team like ok See three times in a
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Speaker 1: week and a half, how could you not look at
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Speaker 1: the Spurs team and say they can win a championship. Now,
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be super super high on my list of contenders,
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Speaker 1: but it's impossible to look past him at this point.
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Speaker 2: It's impossible. So before we talk about the Okac thunder
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Speaker 2: and woe was going on with him?
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Speaker 1: Because the two game loser streak is defcot one, raizy
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Speaker 1: alarms this team don't.
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Speaker 2: Lose to in a row.
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Speaker 1: We do want to give the flowers to the Spurs
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Speaker 1: because this is a team that obviously cares about every
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Speaker 1: single game. Don't get me wrong, But this team definitely
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Speaker 1: cares about this specific matchup. You know when been Yama
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Speaker 1: has had his comments about chet Hogrid, even in this game,
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Speaker 1: there's multiple times for those twodudes are on the court
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Speaker 1: together that you can see the pass and for these
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Speaker 1: two guys going at it. I saw thunder fans saying
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Speaker 1: it's not really a rivaly because they kick our ass
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Speaker 1: every single time.
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Speaker 2: You know what that means, And it kind of is right.
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Speaker 1: Whomben Yama's just that freak of an athlete and that
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Speaker 1: freak of a talent as an NBA player. But obviously
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Speaker 1: it's not just women Yama because in these games the
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Speaker 1: NBA Cup game minutes restriction, the game two nights ago,
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Speaker 1: in this game minutes restriction, and they've they beat okay
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Speaker 1: see pretty handily with the best player, Women Yama not
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Speaker 1: playing thirty minutes. And you know what makes it special,
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's it's a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: kind of go into what's making this Spurs Spurs team special.
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Speaker 1: But the three guards, I know I've meant I probably
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Speaker 1: talked about it in the NBA Cup recap that we did,
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Speaker 1: But these three guards, between fox Castle and Harper, how
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Speaker 1: they can continue to put pressure on your team and
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Speaker 1: try to get to the basket and sink in that
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Speaker 1: defense and kick it out to the shooters. It is
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Speaker 1: amazing because there's never going to be a minute that
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Speaker 1: the Spurs team plays as long as those three guards
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Speaker 1: are healthy where they won't have somebody that's capable of
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Speaker 1: getting two feet into the paint. And the one thing
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Speaker 1: that Oka See kind of wants is preventing you from
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Speaker 1: getting shots at the ram. They want you to take
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Speaker 1: mitt range jump shots. Guess what, Dean Fox can make
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Speaker 1: a lot of mid range jump shots.
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Speaker 2: He did that today.
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Speaker 1: But they want you to take mit range jump shots.
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Speaker 1: And they're most of the time completely okay with you
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Speaker 1: taking three pointers. But this team, these guys are just
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Speaker 1: getting their two feet in. I thought they did an
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Speaker 1: amazing job in the full court today. So you got
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Speaker 1: a tipic cap because this team is as I don't know,
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Speaker 1: they've played this Okay See Thunder team as good as anybody.
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Speaker 1: And one thing that probably we have to do better
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Speaker 1: ass as talkers of the league is trying not to
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Speaker 1: get super reactionary too when things get really great and
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Speaker 1: things when things get really bad. Right when the Thunder
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Speaker 1: were really great. You know, we had those conversations about
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Speaker 1: them being all time team and it don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: I still think that I would pick them to win
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Speaker 1: the championship this season.
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Speaker 2: I think I think still think they're the best team
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Speaker 2: in the league.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think today that it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: super cabof Not that I thought that beforehand either, because
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Speaker 1: that team did go to two game sevens, but like
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Speaker 1: the way they had came out the gate and we
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Speaker 1: were having these conversations, we see to pomp the brakes
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Speaker 1: just a little bit because well, things can shift, things
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Speaker 1: can teams can figure you out if teams could be
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Speaker 1: your kryptonite, and we're kind of seeing that with the
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Speaker 1: Spurs team.
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Speaker 2: So shout out to them.
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Speaker 1: But I kind of want to talk about this, Okay,
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Speaker 1: see thunder team a little bit more because we already
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Speaker 1: gave the Spurs their flowers on the last two podcasts
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Speaker 1: of small Ball and then when they won the NBA
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Speaker 1: Cup just a week and a half ago. But okay, see,
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Speaker 1: things are kind of I don't want to say breaking
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Speaker 1: down because again, and they still are the best team
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Speaker 1: in the league record wise, but one thing that is
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Speaker 1: really special about this this team is obviously the defense
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Speaker 1: always has been a way. Last season historic defense by
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Speaker 1: most of the metrics, most of the numbers, and the
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Speaker 1: offense was great, but it wasn't like they held their
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Speaker 1: hat on the defensive side of the ball. And this
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Speaker 1: little stretcher they're losing these games against Anthony Edwards and
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Speaker 1: the Temboles a few nights ago, and then losing these
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Speaker 1: games to the Spurs. The one thing that sticks out
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Speaker 1: like a sore thumb is that this offense is just
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Speaker 1: not generating I mean, it can generate good looks, but
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Speaker 1: they just don't have the overall talent offensively, which sounds
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Speaker 1: crazy about a team that just came off a championship
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Speaker 1: and just ran it back. But when it comes to things,
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Speaker 1: it's basically just Shae Gild, just Alexander And if you
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Speaker 1: watch the postgame interview when they lost against the Minnesota
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Speaker 1: Timwolves a few nights ago, Anthony Edwards was pretty candid about, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we just showed Shaye hellibodies and we were gonna live
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Speaker 1: with the result of the other things. And that's basically
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Speaker 1: what teams has just been doing. And again it's a
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Speaker 1: testament to Shade just being great to be able to
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Speaker 1: take that and do some things. But today was one
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Speaker 1: of those games where he saw them bodies and he
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Speaker 1: didn't have a normal Shade game, and it's.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, who else is gonna be here? I saw
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Speaker 2: a thunder.
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Speaker 1: Fans say, when was the last time that we seen
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Speaker 1: somebody on Shade's team outshine shape? The last time I thought,
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Speaker 1: off of the top of the mind is in the
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Speaker 1: NBA Finals were dubbed hit forty. But the entirety of
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Speaker 1: this season, I think we could probably go down the
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Speaker 1: line and you're like, yup, Shave, Shade, Shade, Shade, Shade shape,
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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be the case for most great players,
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But every once in a while
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Speaker 1: on the that Denver team, you know Jamal Murray, j'all below,
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Speaker 1: Vinie Ball, when Yogin just you know, still doing his thing,
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Speaker 1: and we haven't got that. Part of that might be
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Speaker 1: because dub is still coming back from this injury, but
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Speaker 1: they haven't had these guys. It's this big three that
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Speaker 1: we talked about between Shade, between Dub between Check. We
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Speaker 1: just haven't seen them be able to say, Shae, we
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Speaker 1: know you're gonna give us twenty eight.
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Speaker 2: To what today is twenty two, So that's awful game
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Speaker 2: for Shape.
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Speaker 1: We know you could get us twenty eight to thirty
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Speaker 1: every single night, but don't worry. I got us and
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Speaker 1: this just hasn't happened to Shat And this is one
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Speaker 1: of them games where you need them.
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Speaker 2: The game that dubbed Joah forty.
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Speaker 1: They needed that because the way the Pacers were really
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Speaker 1: guarding Shade was really just sending them bodies, and somebody
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Speaker 1: has alleviate that pressure. This was one of the worst
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Speaker 1: just straight up chet home games I've seen, and it's
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Speaker 1: because of the lack of aggression. Maybe the physicality from
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Speaker 1: the Spurs has got overwhelming for him. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if he's one of them people that think that this
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Speaker 1: is a rivalry, but if he could see to play
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Speaker 1: like this, ain't no when hell you could think that
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Speaker 1: this is a rivalry, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 1: they need somebody like that. And then when you go
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Speaker 1: down the list, this was a game where Dort shot it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think he may have hit his first two and
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Speaker 1: maybe that's why I thought he shot it well. But Dort, Dort, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm watching this not just this game. This is a
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Speaker 1: little thing over to the season. I'm like, they might
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Speaker 1: have to bench that brother, and not bench in the
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Speaker 1: sense that he won't played minutes. But he has not
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Speaker 1: been in super impactful on either side of the ball
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Speaker 1: the way we normally would see him. The last two
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Speaker 1: years of his NBA career is forty percent from three,
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Speaker 1: thirty nine percent fro three. This year he is off
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Speaker 1: from three. And he also I don't think he's defending
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Speaker 1: as good as he was last season.
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Speaker 2: I mean, and I watched this game.
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Speaker 1: It's moments in this when you're like, come on, bro,
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Speaker 1: y'all know exactly the moments I'm talking about when teams
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Speaker 1: are just gonna send two in three s Shay and
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Speaker 1: these other guys just not there to alleviate the pressure.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of feel like you found some
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Speaker 1: of the recipe. Now you also have to hope that
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Speaker 1: you don't get the you know, in the finals Careersohad
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Speaker 1: with two twenty point games right tonight, he couldn't hit
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Speaker 1: a goddamn thing. He missed like eight threes in the
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Speaker 1: first half. I'm like, bro, he had three person in
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Speaker 1: the row. He just came down to tide the ball again.
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Speaker 1: He's open, and I understand you want to keep them honest,
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Speaker 1: and that's how you open up the game. But bout
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Speaker 1: a six miss, let's put that ball on the floor
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Speaker 1: a little bit, you feel you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Let's try to get to the paint. Let's swing it
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Speaker 1: one more time. But if nobody's gonna leviate their pressure
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Speaker 1: off shad. You kind of feel like there's a somewhat
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Speaker 1: of a recipe this team that felt impenetrable. It feel
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Speaker 1: like you have some type of recipe where again, you
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Speaker 1: just want them to shoot it poorly. You have to
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Speaker 1: limit your turnovers, and if you are going to turn
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Speaker 1: the ball over, you have to limit their points off turnovers.
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Speaker 1: I think all of these games the Spurs have played
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Speaker 1: against Okay, see this season.
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Speaker 2: That's what they've been able to do.
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Speaker 1: I think they even won the points off turnover battle
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Speaker 1: in the game a few nights ago.
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Speaker 2: In this one. Did they win it in this one?
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Speaker 2: They lost them by two.
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Speaker 1: If you only if you only minus two off points
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Speaker 1: off turnovers against the Thunder.
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Speaker 2: You win the game. Even if you don't win the game,
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Speaker 2: you won the game. You executed a game plan. Don't
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Speaker 2: turn the ball over. They did an amazing job of that,
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Speaker 2: don't turn the.
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Speaker 1: Ball over, don't let them scoring transition, leave the shooters
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Speaker 1: or the shooters open, and hope that they missing.
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Speaker 2: And it seem like in a lot of games they go
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Speaker 2: into missing. You kind of foind your recipe.
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Speaker 1: See when the Thunder went on these stretches last season
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Speaker 1: where they were struggling to shoot and they didn't shoot
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Speaker 1: it amazingly.
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Speaker 2: Well all season long last year.
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Speaker 1: The one thing that was like, our defense is so
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Speaker 1: legendary that we can compensate for the lack of offense
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Speaker 1: right now. And their defense is still good, don't get
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Speaker 1: me wrong, but over the last couple of weeks they
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Speaker 1: went from the best defense ever to like, in this span,
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Speaker 1: they were like the ninth defense in the league, And
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Speaker 1: they can't be the ninth defense in the league if
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Speaker 1: this is going to be their offense. That's a recipe
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Speaker 1: for close games and mostly losses. But let me get
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Speaker 1: back to why I said, it means everything and nothing. Right,
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Speaker 1: if you are the Spurts, you feel like you are
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Speaker 1: on cloud nine. We are a team that has a
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Speaker 1: pretty pretty young war between women, y'ama Castle and Harper.
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Speaker 1: No respect to your foster, but you a vet right,
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Speaker 1: now you're not even young.
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Speaker 2: No one you a VET.
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Speaker 1: So we're a really young team. We saw this team
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Speaker 1: coming off the championship. We just kicked they ass three
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Speaker 1: times in a row. They have the upmost amount of confidence,
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Speaker 1: and I think they still do have two more games
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Speaker 1: in this regular season, so there's a world. Okay, see
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Speaker 1: wins the next two and then the conversations may shift.
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Speaker 1: So it means everything to say that, hey, we can
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Speaker 1: compete in against this team. And like, because these games
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Speaker 1: have been so close in time that you can fake
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Speaker 1: feel like y'all have been playing a little playoff series.
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Speaker 2: You know, Vegas won that long ago. They just played
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Speaker 2: on the twenty third.
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Speaker 1: Today is the twenty fifth, so you can say that
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Speaker 1: that's kind of like a little playoff schedule. So like
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Speaker 1: we kind of felt like we had a we have
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Speaker 1: three to zero in this series, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So you have that level of confidence, you have that
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Speaker 1: level of belief that we can beat this team in
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Speaker 1: the seven and women, Yama ain't really been playing like
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Speaker 1: the amount.
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Speaker 2: Of minutes you really need him to.
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Speaker 1: After the game, I watched Shay's posts and he said,
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Speaker 1: we have to be better as a group. You don't
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Speaker 1: lose to a team three times in a row in
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Speaker 1: a short without them being better than you.
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Speaker 2: Like just straight up, we have to get better.
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Speaker 1: Look in the mirror, and that's everybody from top to
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Speaker 1: bottom if we want to reach our ultimate goal. I
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Speaker 1: think that's as good of a quote you can really have,
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Speaker 1: like obviously holding it self accountable as well, but also
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Speaker 1: saying my team a man from the top to bottom,
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Speaker 1: we just have not performed the way we have and
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Speaker 1: I mean the overall standard is okay, seeing that then
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Speaker 1: far here it's like two and a half games, So
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Speaker 1: it means everything in the sense that you have the
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Speaker 1: utmost amount of confidence in your team to be able
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Speaker 1: to go against Okay, see sometimes at home, sometimes in
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Speaker 1: a new true setting, and sometimes in a row. It
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Speaker 1: feels like you can walk out of there with the victory.
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Speaker 1: That the younger guys do not have fear in their
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Speaker 1: eyes because the team in front of them is the
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Speaker 1: defendant champion. No, we can win that. So it means
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Speaker 1: everything from that point of view. The reason I say
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Speaker 1: it means nothing, I have been a fan of a team.
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Speaker 1: I've been a fan of a team that swept the
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Speaker 1: team in the regular season and the gaps to the
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Speaker 1: postseason and they spanked that ass. You know what I
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Speaker 1: mean that Derek Rose Bulls team win against the Miami
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Speaker 1: he swap them for zero. We were on top of
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Speaker 1: the world. We got to the postseas. I think we
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Speaker 1: got one game against them. Now, okay, see don't got
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Speaker 1: a bron a Wade and a Boss. But like we've
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Speaker 1: seen this happen actually a decent amount of times to
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Speaker 1: our history.
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Speaker 2: And this is not even a sweep.
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Speaker 1: Again, they still have two more games where a team
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Speaker 1: can be dominant against you in the regular season and
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Speaker 1: then shuck, something shifts, whether that be whether that be
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Speaker 1: just overall game planning, or you mature throughout the regular season,
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Speaker 1: or like the overall talent level just shows that you
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Speaker 1: are the better team that like, though I do hold
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Speaker 1: a lot of stock in the regular season, it's far
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Speaker 1: away from being the end all be all. The fact
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Speaker 1: that the Spurs won three games out of three, you
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Speaker 1: feel me. Actually, I wonder if I could find a
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Speaker 1: list of teams have done that. I feel bad because
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Speaker 1: I should have remembered this. I should have remembered some
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Speaker 1: of these. So this year I'm talking about the Bulls
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Speaker 1: lost in twenty eleven when they were they swept in
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Speaker 1: the regular season. The Cavs are six no versus the
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Speaker 1: Bulls in the regular seat. What the hell is this
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Speaker 1: talking about? Two year ago anyway, the Bulls got swept
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Speaker 1: by to Jack, So these was meaning a little bit
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Speaker 1: less because the two game series when it's East versus West,
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Speaker 1: where you have it like this, where it's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: East versus East. Twenty twenty, the Bucks beat the Magic
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Speaker 1: in the regular or in the postseason, but got swept.
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Speaker 1: So like West versus West in twenty seventeen, Man, that
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Speaker 1: got hurt. I don't even remember that series off the
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Speaker 1: top of my head. Raptors, you know, so like we've
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Speaker 1: just seen it before. It's what I'm saying. We've seen
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Speaker 1: the team be dominantst you in the regular season. You
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Speaker 1: get to the postseason and it doesn't matter too much.
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Speaker 1: But this is interesting though. Again, if you are Sam Pressey,
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Speaker 1: the question now becomes back to, like, are we gonna
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Speaker 1: try to acquire some more shooting? Last year we got
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Speaker 1: to the finals, we won the finals even with our
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Speaker 1: lack of shooting, Like, but can we do we believe
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Speaker 1: we could do it again?
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Speaker 2: Oh am I being too reaction there from a team
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Speaker 2: that was just twenty four and one. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: you know, h is it twenty three?
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Speaker 1: But I do look at this team like man, because
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Speaker 1: I do think that the defensive infrastructure, again, though in
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks it hasn't been amazing, the defensive
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Speaker 1: infrastructure is still real and you can still probably bring
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Speaker 1: in a shooter and feel great about it.
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Speaker 2: But they just need some.
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Speaker 1: That can keep teams honest if dub they making them
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Speaker 1: shots or chat is not attempting them in you know,
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Speaker 1: you get a lot of Isaiah Joe minnets in games
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Speaker 1: like this where they're trying to like crawl their way
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Speaker 1: back into the game, but he only can do so much.
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Speaker 1: It's like a mid tier role player. I wonder if,
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Speaker 1: like you get one of the shooters in the league,
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Speaker 1: and I just don't know who that is. Like I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to just think of something off the top of
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Speaker 1: my head, and it's like they can't just go get
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Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior without giving up one of the core
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Speaker 1: pieces of the team, right in order to get Michael
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Speaker 1: Porter Junior got to trade Isaiah Hartenstein.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to do that anyway.
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Speaker 2: I talked about it too much.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to the Spurs, God damn it, showing that
15:34
Speaker 1: it's very this season is very far from over.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 1: I've been reading a bunch of comics and I was
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Speaker 1: trying to make a reference to All Star Superman and
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Speaker 1: I just can't. I just can't.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying