Latest / For All Nerds Show / The Acolyte - Episode One & Two (Lost/Found & Revenge/Justice): Review, Recap & Reaction!!
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- 2:30but you know we ain't here to talk about Creed or Rocky or any
- 2:34of that. As you hear from our Star Wars influence Aka's we are back
- 2:38to Distruss that Alcolite, the new series on Disney Plus, which drop the
- 2:43first two episodes already right now there out there, so if you haven't watched
- 2:49them, you're probably gonna want to go watch them and then come back and
- 2:52keep this review because we're gonna talk about the first two episodes. I personally
- 2:57have seen the first four. I think Tatanna has seen the first three.
- 3:00Yes, we we were given access to the first four, and to your
- 3:05point, I saw the first three. I have some notes, yeah,
- 3:09some thoughts. Let's see, let's start off overall, right, overall feelings
- 3:15on the series that we've seen so far, without giving any spoilers to the
- 3:20later episodes they shall have not seen. Obviously, my first viewing I was,
- 3:30yeah, I was I was very Yeah, I was whelmed. I
- 3:34was very well swelmed. I was very well. But I have to preface
- 3:38that by saying the first time I watched and Or, which I now considered
- 3:40to be one of the best series ever, at least, you know,
- 3:43one of the best first seasons, I thought the first few episodes were,
- 3:47especially the first episode was whack. Really, I was like, whatever,
- 3:52you know, and I didn't really feel too much about it. And then
- 3:55I had to go back and rewatch it and I realized that one it was
- 3:59quite the slow series to start, but it was one of them slow series
- 4:02that everything matters in the end, all the characters they're introducing in the beginning
- 4:06of the series pay off by the end of it. Everybody has a little
- 4:10arc of their own. It's just an incredibly written story. Now with ALCOHOLI
- 4:15I was still kind of like, I don't know, because one the tone
- 4:19is definitely not in or the tone is more can to I won't say Mando
- 4:25because it's a bit darker than that. So it's not really any of that.
- 4:29Like they build this as a mystery thriller, yes, and it definitely
- 4:33has a feel of a I didn't really feel the mystery. I think that's
- 4:44my biggest thing too. I'm hoping there's more to it, but there was,
- 4:49like, especially in the third episode, the Job, and I've seen
- 4:53it's like there's a lot of reveals there, and I was trying to like,
- 4:55well, that's yeah, I thought that for that and also, yeah,
- 5:00damn, nigga's not taking out but okay, you know, so it's
- 5:06yeah, but I've rewatched it, you know. Of course, to do
- 5:10the review, I rewatched the four episodes that we were given access too,
- 5:14and the second time I enjoyed it a bit more. I'll say I still
- 5:18have some reservations, but I do like things that are being done in this
- 5:26series that are challenging the long held myths of Star Wars. I'm not sure
- 5:30if they're doing it to the level that i'd like them too, but you
- 5:35know, baby steps, and I think the baby steps are pretty good.
- 5:38And there are some great jabs and great one liners. And I think Young
- 5:43Guru, who famously had an episode of f All Nerds where he called the
- 5:46Jedi baby snatchers, would quite approve of the Alkali and what they are saying
- 5:54about the Jedi in certain cases. But again I have reservations there because I
- 6:00feel like they let the Jed off a little too easy so far. I
- 6:02love your pronunciation of the acolyte because it sounds like you're saying electrolytes, So
- 6:06what is it the acolite? I mean like it's just no you've been saying,
- 6:14so I don't know what you've been saying. But that's that Texas coming
- 6:15out the theater, if you will. My years in the theater of you
- 6:25know, emphasizing and denunciation, I have similar sentiment as mentioned. I saw
- 6:32the first three. The first two episodes whelmed me as well. I even
- 6:40want to kind of say underwhelm a bit. I also blame the trailer because
- 6:46I feel like the trailer hype me up for because the trailer is basically the
- 6:50first episode, and the trailer hypes you up like, oh this this is
- 6:54fit to be some crazy shit. Maybe because I saw carrying Moss and I
- 6:58always think Trinity and me and I always think it's about to be some fluck
- 7:01shit right now, you know, in a good way. The things I
- 7:05expected in my head didn't come about. And that's okay. You know,
- 7:09things don't have to be exactly what you think just because you see a certain
- 7:13character, a certain person and you might have a connection in your head about
- 7:16what type of character they are, and that's not always going to be the
- 7:19case. That's fine. But even when I let all that go, like
- 7:23I was a little bored, To be quite honest with you, I was
- 7:27quite bored the first couple episodes. It is slower for me. It felt
- 7:31like, okay, you know, I understand it. It's more of a
- 7:34slow burn at first. It's like where are we going from here? Like
- 7:38they're they're doing they're doing the world building, they're doing their character building,
- 7:42and I've seen world building character building done in a way that's quick and to
- 7:46the point, and in a way that even if it's they're taking their time,
- 7:49it doesn't feel like they're taking their time, if that makes any sense.
- 7:54Yep. So perhaps it's a pacing concern for me. I just I
- 8:01was very I was kind of tired, and even this morning I rewatched,
- 8:07you know, I rewatched one and two, and I was kind of feeling
- 8:13the same way like I was like, you know, because at first I
- 8:16was like, you know, maybe because I was just tired when I watched.
- 8:18It was late at night when I was watching it, you know,
- 8:20you know, like you're surroundings and stuff. I was bright, I was
- 8:24bright tailed, but it's hey bright eyed and bushy tail watching it, and
- 8:26I was still feeling the same effects of Okay, I'm a little I'm a
- 8:30little whelmed. So not really was I was kind of iffy on it for
- 8:33the first two episodes. Episode three was the turning point for me. That's
- 8:39why I yet, That's when I said, okay, yeah, now we're
- 8:43getting somewhere. Because one and two, of course, I just mention's world
- 8:48building, but it also gives you the parameters for this world where you see
- 8:52where it's about the Jedi. It's set one hundred years before the rise of
- 8:58the Empire. So you said, this is right after the Republic. This
- 9:01is the end of the High Republic area, right basically, So it gives
- 9:03you that understanding and gives you, Okay, this is this person, this
- 9:07is that person. But it's still within the same confines of what you would
- 9:11know of Star Wars stories. Right, there's nothing new, per se until
- 9:15you get to episode three. Then I was like, holy shit, what's
- 9:18going on? Right? That's when I started getting interested invested in it because
- 9:22I started seeing things I ain't never seen before. And I think, all
- 9:28right, now one word, Like we said, we're going to give high
- 9:31you know, level of stuff right now, We're not really to talk too
- 9:33much about episode three, but I will say that while I thought episode three
- 9:37was the strongest of them all, I've seen this stuff before because a lot
- 9:43of the stuff revealing in episode three is Star Wars Lord that has been explored
- 9:46throughout the Clone Wars, especially throughout what's the other series after from Rebels.
- 9:54Both they both feature all of that that we see heavily. Yeah, so
- 10:00that's not new stuff, you know, And I think you, yeah,
- 10:03I've seen yeah, it is, That's what I'm saying. But if you're
- 10:07a Star Wars head, that's it's not really like brand new. But this
- 10:11is the first time that we've seen this in live action, so that is,
- 10:13you know, something for itself. And at the same time, I
- 10:16just felt the three was the strongest just in general. I also feel Forward,
- 10:20what you haven't seen yet is also a pretty solid joint. And I
- 10:26think that while it's not, it's not like you said, even though it
- 10:31wasn't the trailer that did it for me, it was just the idea of
- 10:35the ALCOHOLI you know, we're gonna see the origins of the Sith. This
- 10:39is one hundred years before the Sith pop up. Really, so how is
- 10:43it that there are Sithe here? You know, that's the question because to
- 10:46set the stage for everyone, the High Republic is when things are popping for
- 10:50the Republic, basically like everything is going well, they got the money,
- 10:54everything's just lovely. The Jedi number in the thousands. They are everywhere where.
- 11:00Things are pretty good, you know, overall throughout the universe, and
- 11:03we don't have this idea of the Syth even being around, like they were
- 11:09a thing way back before this, and then they were eliminated and they ain't
- 11:11been heard from, you know, for hundreds, if not thousands of years
- 11:16at this point. Yeah, so the Jedi are just like we good.
- 11:18Yeah, And that's something that myself and Porsche shout out to Porsche Pee the
- 11:24Grand Measter of for all Nerds. When we did our review of the trailer
- 11:28for The Acolyte, she I had mentioned to her that I like the fact
- 11:31that this has nothing to do with the Skywalker family. This is something different,
- 11:35you know, This is this is a story that we haven't heard fore.
- 11:39It's it's treading new ground. Like you said, it might be for
- 11:41those who are very familiar with all that other backstory and the and the animation
- 11:45and stuff. This is stuff that brings them in, just like how Rogue
- 11:48One brought in a lot of stuff. That's that's fantastic. I just really
- 11:52appreciate it. Or that's why I went to here with like I thought immediately
- 11:56they was gonna hit me with the new ship, like hit me with the
- 11:58with the the hey man, this this is the new shit you ain't never
- 12:01seen before, at least again for me. It just took a while to
- 12:05get there. And oh yeah, but once once and I could see now
- 12:09that okay, now this is where it picks up. So I will say
- 12:11to people who if you're because I know that online at least on Twitter,
- 12:16they're saying, oh, that series is crazy. And these are people who
- 12:20only saw the first two episodes. I want to say for those who feel
- 12:24differently, just hang on. You're just gonna have to hang on until you
- 12:28get to episode three and then it's going to it's like a roller I don't
- 12:31want to say it's like a roller coaster yet, but you're you're on that
- 12:33uphill right now where it's just like you're kind of ticking along and it's like,
- 12:37all right, all right, where are we getting at? And now
- 12:39I'm thinking we're starting to get to the precipice. So all right now,
- 12:41now shit's gonna start moving now. Oh it definitely is. I spent five
- 12:46to be something, you know, some serious shit go down in five because
- 12:52it's set up for it. But that is my other uh, that's my
- 12:56first like, my biggest reservation about the whole scene so far is that once
- 13:01again I feel like it's while it is questioning a lot of the things about
- 13:05the Jedi and what is good and what is evil in this universe. I
- 13:09also feel like it's leaning back or might wind itself back around to kind of
- 13:15like the I don't want to say, goofy happy ending, but a slightly
- 13:20more usual Disney five I would say ending where Now, Okay, we can
- 13:26say this right because I think I did not realize this going in. I
- 13:28think this was the big mystery of the show, at least for me.
- 13:31But this is revealed in the first two episodes, so we can say this
- 13:35right that Amanda Steinberg. Seenberg is playing two characters. She is playing May
- 13:43and Osha, two sisters who have been separated since they were very young,
- 13:48and May was raised with the Jedi for a time. Right, Yeah,
- 13:54I don't know, you can say that it's kind of spoiler. Actually no,
- 13:56that's like that's first two episodes. That's in the first two episodes.
- 14:00In the first and we do yeah, we're talking about people. You know,
- 14:03people have already seen the first two episodes. Sure, sure, okay,
- 14:05so it's not a spoil Yeah, so yeah, I said that at
- 14:09the beginning. It is if you have you know, you're thirty minutes in
- 14:13by now, you two So May, she's playing two characters who have been
- 14:18separated, right that I get them right. May is the one of the
- 14:22Jedi. Osha is the Osha is the one that is was choosed to be
- 14:28Jedi trained. Okay, all right, well I got them back. Osha
- 14:31is with the Jedi and May is not. I mean, and by by
- 14:41the end of the first episode we know that. No, yeah, by
- 14:43the end of the first episode, we know who May is rolling with.
- 14:46May is rolling with someone who has a red lightsaber, you know what I
- 14:50mean. That is revealing. That means, yeah, we all know what
- 14:52that means. You know. That's the thing like, while they do get
- 14:56into some new ship later on, they do have to build you up with
- 15:00that shit you already know. And so they use these images and these iconic,
- 15:03you know, uses of things like red lightsabers to signify Okay, we
- 15:07know where she's rolling with, you know, and we know who the other
- 15:11one's rolling with, so they That's that was the big reveal for me because
- 15:15I did not know that going in. So I was like, oh,
- 15:16okay, that's ill. You know, the nice twins story, But that's
- 15:20what I'm saying. It's just going to turn back around where the Twins will
- 15:24be redeemed and both of them. Will you know, I think that's corny.
- 15:28I think that's corny, but I'm hoping not. But I also I
- 15:31have some faith because I was reading an interview because the showrunner, Leslie Headland
- 15:37mentioned that her series will show the shades of gray and the characters and shine
- 15:41of light on how the Jedi Order was so easily corrupted during the time of
- 15:46the Phantom Menace. And then she is introducing a lot of ambiguous characters such
- 15:50as Camier manager sent those character and and of course as you see may you
- 15:56know two may Osha slash Osha, two sides of the same coin, the
- 15:58Yinnie, you know all that stuff. So you know, the very from
- 16:02the very obvious to the very you know, the very literal to the very
- 16:07Uh, what's the other? It's subtle, right like you figurative, figurative,
- 16:11thank you. She she's trying to present those views and particularly of and
- 16:15this is why I really appreciate and I feel like I'm gonna appreciate this the
- 16:19show much more after episode three. It's because three and the reason why it
- 16:25woke me up is not just because it was something different for me. It
- 16:27was because now we got into the real witches. And it's so funny you
- 16:30mentioned Guru after episode three, I'm like, fuck the Jedi one. I
- 16:37mean remember, and this is years ago when we had this conversation with with
- 16:45Young Guru. If y'all don't know, go Young Guru jay Z's engineer,
- 16:48go back in our archives and listening to that episode where Guru basically gave us
- 16:55a master class on why the Jedi ain't ship, and we were just like,
- 16:59no, gurgle no, you know, like just trying to you know,
- 17:00we was listening to him and trying to understand all that stuff, and
- 17:03we was like, damn, why are you so harsh all this? That?
- 17:04And the third I after now all this time and especially after watch episode
- 17:11three, I'm like, I get it. Guru was right, that's the
- 17:15new T shirt, get it. Yeah, I mean he's right about a
- 17:18lot of things. And I've been accepted that, you know that. That
- 17:21wasn't news to me. I really kept until after now years of more and
- 17:26reading, I was like, wait a minute, like these niggas, it's
- 17:30crazy, like and to see how other characters even react to them, like
- 17:33again, this is outside skywalking all the other stuff. To see people be
- 17:37like these fucking crazy ass monks or this is what do they call them more
- 17:41or they call them religious cellos and this and that and the other. And
- 17:44at first you're just like damn there mean, but then it's like, no,
- 17:47look at what these niggas is doing across the galaxy and their cops.
- 17:51And that's the thing. That's why, like I always encourage people if you
- 17:53are a Star Wars fan and you think it's fallen off and the movies haven't
- 17:57been hit like that, I really say watch Clone Wars and Rebels because Clone
- 18:02Wars and Rebels has done a lot of this work already. And it was
- 18:06also that was the big thing that was one of the weird things to me
- 18:10about the response to say, like the Last Jedi, because there was this
- 18:14huge uproar over some of the ideas in The Last Jedi, which are basically
- 18:17some of the ideas that we're seeing an ALCOHOLI that we've seen in and or
- 18:21that we've seen in other mediums, that we saw in Rogue One, that
- 18:23we saw in Rebels and Clone Wars, especially that there's a lot more shades
- 18:30of gray when you're dealing with war. Then people want to admit, but
- 18:33when that was presented in the Last Jedi, there was this huge backlash.
- 18:37I think there's going to be some backlash to this show as well, because
- 18:42there is a lot of this is presented, and there's a lot of it
- 18:45presented from the eyes of women, and so I think there might be some
- 18:49issue with that. But it's always interesting to me because if you've ever watched
- 18:53the cartoons, this has been repeated over and over again. To me,
- 19:00Like there's even the arcs of the Clone Wars where it's like, damn dag,
- 19:03y'all, really, y'all did this one arc ago, but I guess
- 19:06niggas didn't get it the first time. Y'all did it last season, so
- 19:08y'all had to repeat it this time. Of course, not people don't get
- 19:11it and just people who haven't seen it. Yeah, And that's what I
- 19:15mean. So they've been on this like everything is great. Like I always
- 19:18talk about Ahsoka being one of my favorite characters because Ahska is the one who
- 19:22calls out the Jedi for everything they're doing as they're falling apart. You know,
- 19:26she's witnessing it and she's like, this is why we're falling apart,
- 19:30and y'all ain't getting it, and you know it falls apart around them.
- 19:33Yeah, as mentioned, that's why I really enjoy from three and I know
- 19:37and that will be better onwards for me because of the whole me on this
- 19:44really the catalyst the fuck the JEDII is happening right now for me. But
- 19:48also episode three really threw in the themes and the interrogation of what the force
- 19:53is versus you know, what's the dark side, what's the light side?
- 19:56Who's wrong, who's right, who's good, who's bad? Is there's such
- 19:59things good and bad and really making you question your understanding and judgment of these
- 20:07characters as well. And that's why that's the other reason why I started getting
- 20:11into it, because I'm like, Okay, now you're challenging me as a
- 20:15viewer. Now you're challenging me as a critic to now think beyond and you
- 20:19as the creator, now you're going beyond what we've seen, you know,
- 20:22over and over again and at least in the big films. Right like now
- 20:26we're seeing something very substantive. And I am interested to see how they do
- 20:32this because they only have eight episodes for this season, so I'm curious to
- 20:34see how they do this, Yeah, and also shout out to the showrunner
- 20:38because that's another reason why I did go back and we watched these episodes.
- 20:42Because I'm a huge fan of Russian Doll, at least the first season of
- 20:45it. I never watched, like, yeah, I never watched past the
- 20:49first season because I just thought it was perfect and I really didn't think they
- 20:52needed more and I never realized there was another Sie good. Yeah, they
- 20:55did another season. I never went I don't know. I was just like,
- 20:56yo, that was too good and I don't want to ruin anything.
- 21:00Yeah, so you know, it might have been great, who knows.
- 21:03But so that's what made me go back to rewatch these and really give them
- 21:06another tribe because, like I said, the same feeling like you had,
- 21:08I was like eh, and I was just I'm I'm just tired of seeing
- 21:14certain aspects of it. This as much of a huge Star Wars fan as
- 21:17I am. But then, like you said, it was the third episode
- 21:19where it really started, you know, to turnaround. For me, I'm
- 21:23still not one hundred percent sold. You know it's selling it for you.
- 21:30Mmm, Like I said, I think, okay, without giving away too
- 21:37much of later things, you know, I still feel like they're leaning towards
- 21:41the Jedi are good, you know, like that is still to me,
- 21:48the lean it's it still hasn't been shown enough of the other side. Now,
- 21:53while I do like like the things you're talking about, and again having
- 21:57seen Clone wars and rebels on all this, I've seen other people other than
- 22:00the Jedi and said use the force. You know, I've seen all kinds
- 22:04of different uses of the force and all kinds of different people who have nothing
- 22:07to do with the Jedi and said, people who are above them, people
- 22:11are below them, all kind of levels of the forces that have been shown
- 22:15already. So while this is also interesting, you know the things that I've
- 22:19seen already, and they've already questioned the Jedi so hard on those things.
- 22:25It's like, hmm, are they just going to lean back on you know?
- 22:30But at the end of the day they want peace. It's like,
- 22:32no, I hope they go hard and be like, yeah, yo,
- 22:34these niggas is fucked up because they've they're already in that territory at least for
- 22:40me and I We'll see what happens in five, six, seven, eight.
- 22:42Yeah, they're already entering that territory of these niggas, as you say,
- 22:48are baby snatches in this and that, And even during our review of
- 22:52that trill, I have mentioned the fact that a lot of people don't realize
- 22:55like these niggas is space cops as well. Yes, and I don't like
- 22:57that. That's the other thing, And it's always really interesting. I think
- 23:03that they're not supposed to be cops, you know, they're supposed to be
- 23:06peacekeepers. They're supposed to be the opposite of the cops. But in the
- 23:10films they're offering portrayed as cops. And that was another thing that a Soska
- 23:14Ready question about them was like, you'll cops, you know, and I
- 23:17can't be part of this shit, so she's out. Absolutely. Can we
- 23:21talk about some of the characters, like you said, just the the for
- 23:25example, Amandla Stenberg, As we mentioned, she's May and Osha. How
- 23:27did you feel about her acting and delivery and all that other stuff. I
- 23:32like, I need more, you know, I need to see the whole
- 23:34series to see her really give May and Osha separate lives, I would guess
- 23:41to say personalities. Yes, yeah, I think the children play. I
- 23:45will say, like you said, I need more time with the manlave for
- 23:48for her for her versions they and and and and I'll talk about the young
- 23:55versions of them, but the young version of them appear briefly in the first
- 23:59two episodes or episode two. But that young act. This it's two of
- 24:03the girls. It was just one. Yeah, two, it is two
- 24:06girls, the young girls. They did very well. They did very good.
- 24:10I agree with you. I need some more time to see. Like
- 24:11at first I didn't understand what was going on with with I was like,
- 24:15why she acting so different? But then I got it. Okay, so
- 24:18that was good carrying Moss Master and Dara, I mean fantastic. Yeah,
- 24:26like five minutes. I cannot shake it. I keep calling her Trinity.
- 24:32I know it's been like twenty years down just like when I seen her,
- 24:34just the way she was moving in the child, I was like, bitch
- 24:37is Trinity and the Jedi role. But Trinity would have moved a lot quicker
- 24:40than that. Okay, you gotta be quicker than that. I gotta say,
- 24:45you know, still for a Jedi. She got taken out like a
- 24:48sucker, like you can't do lots of two scenes it once. Oh yeah,
- 24:53oh yes, that's right. This is about episode one of two people
- 24:56have seen it. Yes, this is the first five minutes. Man,
- 24:59she did this. Also why I was why I said I like generally well
- 25:06episode one. Why I was whelmed and really underwhelmed because I expected a lot
- 25:10more. I expect a lot more from that fight scene. It was very
- 25:14It looked very highly rehearsed. It looked glacial for me, and like twenty
- 25:22years since the Matrix and Nigga we got we got doubles and and and cgiver
- 25:27don't give me that. Don't give me that. Uh, don't give me
- 25:30that. If you can make Martin fucking Lawrence fly in the sky at eighty
- 25:33miles an hour, you can make anything fucking happen. Okay, don't give
- 25:37me that. So no, like it just it just I didn't like the
- 25:41fight scene wasn't giving for me. And then to your point, just the
- 25:45way that she went out, I'm like, you were that easily fooled,
- 25:48Like I just I just it just wasn't giving what a Jedi master had.
- 25:56It served like that. It was just weird. It's and that's and that
- 26:00was a turnoff for me. And maybe down the line it gets revealed that,
- 26:04oh no, that was some other ship that was some Qui gon Jin
- 26:07ship like she was sucking with them, like I don't know, but no
- 26:10she did. There ain't no fucking with and it ain't no Qui gon j
- 26:15Qui gon was the first nigga to figure it out that speak from the dead.
- 26:21These niggas don't even know how to do that tricky right, they don't
- 26:23know. It was questionable. I was like, how do f I was
- 26:27like, I get it made made good like yo, she got hands.
- 26:30But for real though, this season, nigga, Yeah, it was like,
- 26:36you know, she didn't expect that one. You know, you didn't
- 26:38expect that one, alright, But moving on? Who else? Fuck?
- 26:47She wasn't there for much. A few of these people don't appear in to
- 26:52Okay, what about your boy Soul? How you feeling about your man Master
- 26:59Soul? That's that squad games right there. Oh okay, I knew his
- 27:03face, but I didn't. You know, I was never gonna watch spread
- 27:07games in my life. You've never seen it period out of here. No,
- 27:11No, I don't watch people get tortured, you know, ever,
- 27:15No, not for money, not for any reason. It's a little bit
- 27:19more than torture. But okay, it is it's a lot more disturbing.
- 27:23Yeah, no, good. I've read Actually, when I was a child,
- 27:26I read the book The Running Man that Stephen King wrote. They're actually
- 27:30doing a remake of it now, but the book it's one of them things
- 27:34that I shouldn't have read, you know what I mean. It's it's not
- 27:37like the movie. It's horrified. It's much it's not even like Spread Games.
- 27:41Basically, they set the nigga loose in the country and everybody is hunting
- 27:45him. Everyone in the country is hunting this dude, and it's all on
- 27:48TV and it's it's horrifying and it yeah, it's it's dark as hell though,
- 27:55it's like yond dark, so like a show but with death. Yeah,
- 28:00but like horrible, you know Stephen King, So it's horrible. So
- 28:03yeah, No, I'm good on Spread Games. But he's doing a great
- 28:07job as Master, soho. Yeah, no, I like them as Masso.
- 28:10I like I like the definition that he's giving to this new master,
- 28:12like it's giving I want to say, QUI grab Toss is someone who knows
- 28:19what the fuck you're doing. So that's why I was questioning what the fuck
- 28:23was going on in Dara. But you know, that's another story for another
- 28:26day. He's definitely you know, like the art typical, like you know,
- 28:30yeah, yeah, it's like they're leaning hard on that, they're leaning
- 28:33very hard, and he's the very He's the more like I believe, I
- 28:37have faith that everything's going to turn out proper. Yeah, he's the guy
- 28:41that gets that gets thrown off of the I'm thinking of Avengers when they do
- 28:48Homegirl off the cliff, he's the guy that gets thrown off the click because
- 28:49the're so pure of heart, you know, ship like that. I just
- 28:53rewatched it. He's he's also kind of an idiot to me, I gotta
- 28:59say about but yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. My man is
- 29:02also kind of a pure idiot to me as well, Like yeah, man,
- 29:07Like, we'll get into it more on our episode three. Well I'll
- 29:11say that, let's let's save that for episode three. Okay, So since
- 29:15we're since we are going into now the episode and so, like, how
- 29:17did you feel about episode Let's start with webisode one? Like again, I
- 29:21told you I just felt it was while slow. No, I mean,
- 29:23was there anything that happened in episode that made you like that you wanted to
- 29:27even mention or comment? Do you remember what episode one that was worth commenting
- 29:33on. In episode one, I mean, I like, unlike you,
- 29:37I enjoyed the fight scene for what it was. It was not fantastic,
- 29:42but you know, it was cool and different. Trailer made it seem like
- 29:47they about to pop off. I don't think I paid attention trailer for specifically
- 29:51this reason, because I've grown to as much like can unless we're doing doing
- 29:55a review of them. I don't watch trailers wh try and like not really
- 29:57pay attention when I am watching them, So I didn't. Really it wasn't
- 30:02spoiled for me like that. My only spoil was that, you know,
- 30:04just the idea of the show. I was like, oh, this ship,
- 30:07don't you know. It's gonna start off with them in the synth and
- 30:10that's all gonna be Sift training, so you know it's gonna be crazy.
- 30:14Yeah. It was to be dark, you know, it wasn't that darkness.
- 30:17Yeah, that was my first you know, but it wasn't dark enough.
- 30:22But as far as the first episode, I thought, you know,
- 30:23like the first two episodes, overall, I thought they were cool. Like
- 30:26I said, I was whelmed. Overall, I thought it was cool.
- 30:29I was like, Okay, that's a dope blow twist. I did,
- 30:33like, I liked her attack on the other Jedi Master and then you know
- 30:38how the nigga just floating and chilling, Like I really enjoyed that ship.
- 30:42I thought that whole ship was pretty ill. I like Manny Jausino throughout it.
- 30:48You know, I really loved him. Many's fantastic. Yeah, I've
- 30:52loved him from the Good Spot, one of my favorite shows, and he
- 30:56was a great part of it. So I've loved him since then, and
- 31:00I think he was fantastic. I can't say much more than that. Just
- 31:06shit, I've already figured out a lot of shit just for me to watch
- 31:08him. But that's all I say. You know, there's also Daphne Keane
- 31:12who playe. We love Daphne, there we go. That's the brightest spot
- 31:18for me is Daphne King Like I'm you know from Logan, she is my
- 31:23girl. She played at twenty three. She is just you know, she
- 31:27rules in that. And then she was also on the show why is it
- 31:33now slipping? His marvelous things are his dark materials, his dark materials,
- 31:41And she played Lyra and that was just She's fantastic on that. So to
- 31:47me even second of recognize with her out the makeup. I had to go
- 31:48look it up and I'm like, oh, that's shorty and so. But
- 31:52she's doing a great job on this. She's a bright spot. I love
- 31:55her. Yeah. Now, as I keep thinking about it, since we're
- 31:59like like reliving those episodes, I feel like one and two could have been
- 32:01one episode. That part like they could have condensed that and why they released
- 32:07them both today so they also knew that. Is that a waste that they
- 32:12could have made episode two something else? Then? Not really, because it's
- 32:15like, I mean, it just it could have been trimmed down a bit.
- 32:19I guess everything that happened to one could have also happened too in one
- 32:23episode. They could have condensed it to one episode, is what I'm saying.
- 32:29I can't agree that because it's like it's hard for me to even think
- 32:34of anything major that happens, Like one ends with that, and then one
- 32:40ends with the lightsaber, you know, with her walking up on the Master
- 32:44with the lightsaber, and then two ended with two. Two is when the
- 32:51whole, like you said, the floating Jedi stuff happens. But what was
- 32:55the ending on that? Because that is one thing I do want to mention
- 33:00the endings of these episodes have had be rolling and not just just be jarring
- 33:05like oh yeah, that's the end. Yeah, it's like these weird endings,
- 33:08very weird. The ending the okay, the ending of the four is
- 33:13that one. The ending the three is that one. So the ending of
- 33:17the two is that the fight, and in the two is the fight with
- 33:21Soul. No, the ending the two is is it's the fight. It
- 33:27doesn't end on the fight with sould, but that's the fight. That's the
- 33:29episode with the fight with so where may fight sold No, but doesn't episode
- 33:32two end with Jedi Chewbacca. Oh yes, because he said, oh I
- 33:37know where to fight nigga Nigga. I found my seat laughing at the end
- 33:45of episode two. Let's talk about it. We want to talk about a
- 33:49highlight or a low light from an episode is me, is this Nigga breaking
- 33:54them smuggless buns and half and brooring at them and me not be to laugh
- 34:00because he just looked short and like just weak. I didn't get to this
- 34:06head was shaved, you know. I got a better view that later on,
- 34:08like a man bun. Yeah, it looked like my man had on
- 34:13the yard muckle. You know, it's just ship wasn't right. It was
- 34:17fam I was rolling, like rolling, and I don't think I was supposed
- 34:22to be rolling. At the instroduction of you know, Chewbacca Jedi or whatever.
- 34:27I'm watching it now. Yeah, where they go to Kofar Nigga,
- 34:29I'm crying. I was crying it and then I was just like okay,
- 34:32like and this the series uses the old school wipes to go the scene,
- 34:38so like just I don't need that either. I was sitting there like,
- 34:43okay, guys, this is cute, but I think they were overdoing it,
- 34:45a little baby overdoing it. Overdoing it definitely, and that one especially
- 34:50because that should had me, Oh my god, I was crying dog.
- 34:53Yeah that there. I did mention that fight School Soul, and man,
- 34:58I did like that. See. I did like that fighting, like you
- 35:00said, like just to see the foreshoes in a little bit different ways.
- 35:04I like seeing the throwing knives with with May. I mean, she's that's
- 35:07what she does. But you know, I, you know, I appreciate
- 35:10something some samurai ninja shit thrown in there with I don't know, it's like
- 35:15a it feels like an amalgamation of a lot of different things to try to
- 35:19make it look a little bit cool and different. Said that's what I said.
- 35:25Okay, that one worked for you, not the Yeah. Correct,
- 35:30and again back to what I said before, like the Jedi or the way
- 35:36the Jedi have been portraying these live actions, there's always nigga, I'm cooler
- 35:38than you, And it's very much matrix where it's just like you know when
- 35:43Neo noles he's the one and then he's just standing with his hand in his
- 35:45back. He's doing the one hand blocking every every shot. Right, It's
- 35:50that all the time. And I get it, your g ass is cold,
- 35:54heard, but you can't be cold and get and get cheated on like
- 36:00like you know what I'm saying, Like you can't be cold, and they
- 36:01be like, look what's over there, pop, Oh, you gotta be
- 36:07creaking and dance right like that doesn't work. So I believed it more like
- 36:10when Soul Soul was also doing it, but even so it kind of kind
- 36:15of served. I swear she was gonna grab that saber and stabbed Mary.
- 36:20Well, that's what they wanted you to think. But I felt like he
- 36:22just had it. He had a little bit of a leg up on her,
- 36:24like hey, he like listen here. It was giving like like the
- 36:30uncles like trying to you know, y'all shadow boxing with the uncle He's like,
- 36:34hey, you know, I'm gonna let you get a few hits in
- 36:36for play, but don't really come at me, right because you know I'm
- 36:38gonna put you down. And that's what it gave me for. So like
- 36:40I actually felt like, Okay, this is a level of becoming. And
- 36:44I don't know, maybe it was the choreography of it where I was like,
- 36:46Okay, this is better, but I just I just enjoyed it more.
- 36:50No, I enjoyed that one a lot too. I just thought it
- 36:52was trying to weep that she threw saying they face to the state. But
- 36:55you know, I mean I saw it coming and I'm yeah, like I
- 37:00said, it was on that Ninja shit. It's just like smoke bomb and
- 37:04you know that that's the that's the answer to everything. So how else you
- 37:07gonna get the fuck out of there? Yeah? I get it. So
- 37:12that word for me, the Chewbacca Jedi should just had me rolling, though
- 37:15I can't get like that's I mean, these little endings that they have at
- 37:19the end of every episode so far, I have not been understanding and pretty
- 37:22much every single one of them has had me rolling. So yeah, that's
- 37:30it's wild. Uh the costuming, how do you feel like costume? You
- 37:34had some comments about this whole Jedi robe stuff I did, Relliot, this
- 37:39is kind of something. It's just I'm sure people have talked about. IM
- 37:43sure, if I got on Redd it'll be all out there. But basically,
- 37:45right in the very first time we meet Obi Wan, he is wearing
- 37:49what have now become known as Jedi robes. Now, back when Star Wars
- 37:52was made, you know, he's supposed to be wearing just some random robes
- 37:54because he just permit in the desert. But then it became you know,
- 37:59and I kind of look and they're like, well, that's gotta be Jedi
- 38:02robes right in there. Hard. I can't, especially when you're doing a
- 38:06little silhouette. It goes hard, it does, and so then all the
- 38:09Jedi have to have robes. So that was always my question when I'm always
- 38:14I was just thinking about this. Has there ever been in universe explanation as
- 38:19to why Obi Wan is wearing the robes and no one realizes he's a Jedi.
- 38:25I guess he just mind wipes everyone he meets. He can, he
- 38:30can do that, you know. But also the mystery, the mysterious of
- 38:34the hooded robed person that just walks around and you don't know who they are,
- 38:38where they come from, and they just blow into town and blow out
- 38:42like that's also a thing that's in but that's in every story. Yeah,
- 38:45And I guess they could also just look at it like they're like, Oh,
- 38:47this nigga's that old crazy nigga who wear them old Jedi robe. Yeah.
- 38:53He wears rags and and and just a bunch of fucking fabric. Yeah,
- 38:58And they probably just like, oh no, he might be wearing Eni
- 39:00robes like them niggas is all dead them look at this praisey niggasse. Remember
- 39:05at that point, the Jedi are all dead, and they all think of
- 39:07them as praisey niggas even more so than they think of them as praisey niggas
- 39:10on this And that reminds me of a point I had to one to make
- 39:14earlier about why I was anticipating in anticipation for this show the act Like It's
- 39:17because I wanted to see a different story where it's gang gang. When it
- 39:22came to the Jedi, I wanted to see when the Jedi was strong and
- 39:25there's multiple of them, not that they hide in like rats and fearing for
- 39:30their lives. Like even though I you know, at one hand, I'm
- 39:34like fuck the Jedi, at the same time, I would like to see
- 39:37stories, live action stories where they they prospering, right, and they out
- 39:40chair, you know, they flourishing all that stuff. Shousta loved to Dallas
- 39:45pen flourishments all around for the Jedi, right, like they ain't got to
- 39:49worry about nothing. They're all good in the hoods. So you know,
- 39:52that's why I want to see what does that look like in this type of
- 39:54eraror versus when everybody's down bad. Oh, well, they are definitely up
- 39:59right now, the Jedi, you know, all the way up right now.
- 40:01So you will see that in this series because they're like Sol mentioned at
- 40:07one point, there are thousands of even just Padawan, right, so they're
- 40:13used to though they killed all the younglings, like that's why I'm used to
- 40:15it always being right. No, this is well before all that, and
- 40:19like I said, this is even after the big wars that they had in
- 40:22the past when it was mad Sif, because this is this with the Sif,
- 40:25it becomes the thing of the rule of the two. And this is
- 40:29during the beginning of that era where this is the start of the rule of
- 40:31the two, where there can only be two Siths because at this point they
- 40:35really aren't supposed to be any sipah. And I'm glad you mentioned this again
- 40:42because the Star Wars timeline tends to confuse me all the time. And I
- 40:45keep forgetting that all that sis shit now that that was in the past.
- 40:51I keep forgetting that in the future. What do you mean, what part
- 40:55of it, the phantom medicine, all that was that before? No,
- 41:00the phantom Luke oh man, No, okay, the wait is before Luke.
- 41:08It's before and this is and this is one hundred years before the Phantom
- 41:14menace. The alkaliis jump in the Siff jump in right now. This is
- 41:22okay, Yeah, But the Sins have always been around, They've just they
- 41:27were eliminated from the galaxy. Basically, I guess when the Higher Republic starts.
- 41:32I'm not one hundred cent sure on that. I don't know exactly how
- 41:35to words either read the High Public stuff, but they're not around right now.
- 41:39That's why when you know, even when they're like, yo, who
- 41:43killed the Jedi Master, they're like, who the fuck could do this?
- 41:47Nobody touches us right now, you know, So they're just utterly confused to
- 41:52it. It's not like later on where they're like, oh no, this
- 41:55nigga Darth Vader is out there killing niggas, you know, rapidly, where
- 41:59you're like, there's he. They're the roaches and he's the raid. Like
- 42:01you know, there's something out there that's built to kill you versus you just
- 42:07you Just as we said Flourish, it ain't nothing going on, ain't nothing
- 42:09going on, so and and the thing is, nothing is supposed to be
- 42:13going on during this time. That's the other thing, Like, according to
- 42:16the history of it, there isn't supposed to be any Sith right now,
- 42:21So this is there. There's going to have to be an explanation in this
- 42:23series as to what happens to whoever the Sith are in the series because for
- 42:30another one hundred years, they're gone until the Phantom Menace, so we'll see
- 42:37right. So, like, yeah, that homegirl in the future, what's
- 42:42her name in the future, Ray that's all after that, So yeah,
- 42:45it goes Phantom Menace and then you know, luking them and then raying right
- 42:49now. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see. Like I said, I
- 42:52was whelmed. But make up great, make up great, costume was great,
- 43:00like I said, be Sherry and the other the aliens. And why
- 43:05does I feel like every new show they got to start in a fucking CANTEENA
- 43:08like they got to start in a buck again? All these are called back
- 43:13so you know where we're like, that's that's credit for that? That that
- 43:16was kind of like that all that's the cute shit because it's this is kind
- 43:21of even like and that's why they might it might work out for them in
- 43:24their favor, because this is kind of like what X Men ninety seven did
- 43:28where it starts off with a lot of the stalls hut, and then it
- 43:30really starts flipping on you as it goes along. Now how much they flip
- 43:36it is where I'm waiting to see. Okay, and with four more episodes,
- 43:42I'm also wondering. I mean, they got a lot of time left
- 43:45for four more episode, so they can either do a lot or they could
- 43:49not. So we'll see. I think it is I also think I remember
- 43:52because this is this is on Disney Plus, so it's quote quote a TV
- 43:55show. The effects look good, the stunts look real good. The wirework
- 44:01is very because it's it's clearly wireworks on you know, couching, Tiger,
- 44:05hitt and dragon type wirework going on. But look great. Spaceships look good.
- 44:09Yeah, ship great, c g I all that stuff, and it's
- 44:13nothing like And I realized it didn't feel like there was heavy CGI anywhere,
- 44:15like they use it for certain things, like you know, like you said,
- 44:19maybe it's the ships and stuff like that, but otherwise it seems more
- 44:22practical, particularly for the fights and things going on. You know, obviously
- 44:25when you see a saber, you know that that special effects. But everything
- 44:29else looks pretty clean. Yeah, so they do good. They're not on
- 44:34tattooing. They're not, I meansant the I was gonna say, they do
- 44:38go to courss On, they gotta to cross on, but one of the
- 44:43two. You gotta have one of the two. You cannot have a Star
- 44:45Wars show without one of the two. I guess I was just gonna say
- 44:47they do go to someplace familiar, but yeah, and I think and then
- 44:52it just reminds me of like when people say shit like Marvel fatigue or whatever,
- 44:55like my Star Wars fatigue is just the same ship over and over again,
- 45:00like can we please do something different? And when they do do something
- 45:01different, I get very intrigued. I still have not watched and or Kay
- 45:07same. But see that's even slower. The first two episodes was killing me.
- 45:12It's like it tastes like four episodes of four starts like, oh my
- 45:15god, greatest thing ever made. I know. I watched. I watched
- 45:21up to episode four, and then I'm yet like I tweeted it like there
- 45:24was a tweet going around where it's I tweeted an image from a show that
- 45:28people haven't seen it, it won't mean anything too, and anyone who's seen
- 45:31it will devastate them. And I retweeted it because it's an image from a
- 45:36later episode of and and Ord And if you haven't seen it, it's just
- 45:38a bunch of dudes standing there in white suits and about like looking like this.
- 45:43But I know why it's going to be devastating, Huh, I said,
- 45:45I think I know why it's going to be. Oh no, you
- 45:47don't you have Oh my god, don't it's there's like there's no way to
- 45:52describe how that how three episodes lead up to that moment, and it fucking
- 45:57will Like I almost started crying looking at that image. And Or is something
- 46:01else I can tell you to down like that why That's why this show is
- 46:06like, okay, you know so far, because and Or is something else,
- 46:12you know, like it's it's a it's just a very well written show.
- 46:16You know, it's like one of the best well where like shout out
- 46:20to Mellow Brown, my brother, who said it's better than it has any
- 46:22right to be. It was the same thing I said about it's been ninety
- 46:25seven better than and and Or had twelve episodes. Oh no, I got
- 46:30actually close. I think I got halfway actually because I remember if you had
- 46:35you would have started, you would have lost your mind by then, because
- 46:37once you get past the third I think, once you get into the the
- 46:42eye and the whole the heist of Yeah, I got into the Eye and
- 46:45the heist, but the actual heist when it takes place, I mean just
- 46:51everything. By then it's it's it's rip roaring, it's rolling the hest and
- 46:54then the prison sequence that happens after the heist is when it's like that's that's
- 46:59where that scene comes from, the men in white and just all the way
- 47:02to the end. Oh my god, like so I need to watch it,
- 47:07watch watch it over again because I have to. I had to watch
- 47:08it and forgot everything. It's just it's beyond it's just too good. Like
- 47:14you know, you can't and you can't really talk about like, oh,
- 47:15I've seen Star Wars and Ship until you've seen and Or, like you gotta
- 47:20seeing and or at least I mean Clone Wars and stuff as long there's some
- 47:23good and bad in it whatever you know. But I would also say,
- 47:27you know, you should watch some of the best of those, but and
- 47:30Or as a near perfection. Random note to back up when you were laughing
- 47:36about the whole when he was finding the Wookie on that planet that that Wookie's
- 47:42name is kil Knaka played by Junis, and Junis actually played Chewbacca in all
- 47:47the mid two thousand Star Wars films. Nice, so he's not nearly as
- 47:52short as I thought he was. That Nigga looks short. It's the way
- 47:54they shot him, the way they shot him. But no, it's pretty
- 47:57tall, but he does not look they they played him in that introduction,
- 48:00it was a girl wookie I don't know, but I don't know played them.
- 48:07That's your wookies, that's how you look. It was like hello week,
- 48:13Oh my gosh, Esus Jesus. And you know, yeah, obviously,
- 48:20like I said, we're gonna our episode three of you will be separate
- 48:22from this. Y'all didn't have to get a chance to see it, so
- 48:24we're not gonna gold do it. But I do know that I'm gonna be
- 48:29more lively one just really going through that because again, like I and I
- 48:35did similar to that, I did watch episodes one and two twice just to
- 48:38be sure that you know, was I tripping or not? And I feel
- 48:42this way, So I mean they're cool. I think I think it does
- 48:45pick up around three, you know, and we'll get more into that next
- 48:50week on for all Nerds. Anything else. Before we get out of here,
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- 50:15remix. It's live on the NETS's picking up everywhere, so make sure you
- 50:20check that out. I got more come in all kinds of goodness and stuff.
- 50:22So you know, head over to Biddjenergy dot com and then when you're
- 50:27done with that, head over to four all nerds dot com because that whole
- 50:30is back in business with all kinds of fresh merch that you can get for
- 50:36yourself. Support the mission, support the family, become one of the fanfam
- 50:43Get you some of this good merch. Not this shirt I'm wearing right now,
- 50:45it's a Target special, but you know what I mean, Get you
- 50:49some of that merch that's over there all for allners dot com. You can
- 50:52get the Gucci Maine Dolorian shirt, you can get the Lion Old Richie shirt,
- 50:57and you can get the Magneto Is Right shirt. Several colors to choose
- 51:02from as well. We have in all sizes. I know, I think
- 51:07some of folks ask us for some larger sizes, and I think we have.
- 51:09We are going to be coming up with some three excels soon, but
- 51:13I know it goes up to two excels for sure, So definitely hit that
- 51:15up. And if there's something you want to see also, you know,
- 51:19support the store, send us a note, let tell us what you want
- 51:22to see if you again we're talking about sizes, if you're talking about different
- 51:25things. We have mad ideas and more designs coming, as you can.
- 51:31If you didn't know already, those those shirts are our AKA, so you
- 51:36know we're coming up with the goods now And what did that sounds gonna do?
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