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- Lucas: So I was re-reading an old Dan Ariely experiment last night, and it got me thinking about how the first price we see — the anchor — doesn't just influence what we're willing to pay. It basically rewires our entire sense of what something is worth. Luna: Which experiment are we talking about? The one with the chocolates? Lucas: Exactly. The Hershey's versus Lindt study from 2008. Ariely set up a table in a university hallway and offered people a choice: a Hershey's Kiss for one cent, or a Lindt truffle for 15 cents. When both prices were listed, about half the people chose the Lindt. But then he changed one thing — he dropped both prices by one cent. So the Hershey's was free, and the Lindt was 14 cents. Suddenly, 90 percent of people chose the free Hershey's. That's a 40 percentage point swing driven by a one-cent change. Luna: Right, because the anchor shifted from 'which is a better deal' to 'free vs. not free.' The Lindt truffle, objectively, was still a much better value — it's a premium chocolate that costs way more to produce. But the anchor of 'zero' broke the comparison. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the power of the anchor. It's not just a reference point — it's the frame through which you evaluate everything else. In the first condition, the anchor was the 15-cent Lindt against the one-cent Hershey's. Both had a nonzero price, so you did a rational trade-off. But the second condition introduced a zero anchor, and that's a completely different cognitive process. Luna: So what's the takeaway for a marketer right now? We're not all selling chocolates in a hallway. Lucas: No, but we're all setting anchors. Every time you show a price first — on a landing page, in an email, on a menu — you're planting an anchor. And that anchor can be your pricing page's first tier, or it can be a competitor's price you choose to display. The question is: are you setting the anchor deliberately, or are you letting the market set it for you? Luna: Let's talk about a concrete example. A SaaS company I worked with last year — a project management tool — was trying to boost conversions on their mid-tier plan. They had three tiers: Basic at $9 a month, Pro at $29, and Enterprise at $99. The Pro plan was their target, but conversions were stuck at about 18 percent. Lucas: And what did they do? Luna: They added a fourth tier above Enterprise. They called it 'Ultimate' at $199 a month. They didn't change any of the existing plans. They just added this super-premium anchor. Within a month, Pro plan conversions jumped to 22 percent. That's a 22 percent relative increase from a single price that nobody bought. Lucas: That's the classic decoy effect combined with anchoring. The $99 plan now looked reasonable compared to $199. And the $29 plan looked like a bargain compared to both. The anchor at the top reset the entire range of acceptable prices. Luna: And the funny thing is, the Ultimate plan did get a handful of takers — maybe 2 percent of customers. But those were high-value clients willing to pay $199. So it served a dual purpose: it anchored the pricing ladder and captured some surplus from the top end. Lucas: That's a beautiful example of deliberate anchoring. Now, I want to bring in another angle — context anchoring. This is where the environment around the price sets the anchor, not the price itself. Think about a luxury car dealership. They don't just show you the car. They show you the car in a pristine showroom with soft lighting, and they offer you an espresso. That whole context is an anchor that says: 'This is a premium experience, so the price will be high.' And it works. Luna: Or the opposite: a discount grocery store like Aldi. They keep the shelves in boxes, the lighting is fluorescent, and the whole vibe says 'we cut costs.' So when you see a price of $3.49 for a jar of pasta sauce, your anchor is already low, and it feels reasonable. Lucas: Right. The same jar of sauce at a Whole Foods, with its wood shelving and ambient lighting, might be $4.99, and you'd buy it without flinching because the context anchor says 'this is quality.' The product is nearly identical, but the context shifts your anchor. Luna: And that's why I think a lot of direct to consumer brands get this wrong. They launch a premium product but they sell it on a generic Shopify store with no brand context. The price feels arbitrary because the anchor is just the raw number with no framing. Lucas: Exactly. You need to build the context anchor before you show the price. That means high-quality photography, detailed product descriptions, social proof, maybe a comparison with a more expensive alternative. You want the customer to arrive at the price already primed to accept it. Luna: And that's where a lot of the behavioral economics literature meets real practice. I'm thinking of the classic study about the wine list. When a restaurant puts a very expensive bottle — say $500 — at the top of the list, the $80 bottle next to it suddenly looks like a deal. The $500 bottle is the anchor that nobody buys, but it makes the entire list feel more affordable. Lucas: Yes, and that's a deliberate anchor. But there's also the unintentional anchor. If you're a small business and you look at your competitor's price and assume that's the right price, you've let them set your anchor. You might be leaving money on the table if your product is actually better, or you might be pricing yourself out if your product is different. Luna: So how do you choose your anchor? Is it always the highest price in your lineup? Lucas: Not necessarily. Sometimes the anchor is the first price the customer sees, which could be your lowest tier. If you lead with a $5 plan, that becomes the reference point, and everything else looks expensive. That's why some companies hide the low tier or make it less prominent. They want the $29 plan to be the first thing you see, so that's the anchor. Luna: Let's talk about a case where a company deliberately lowered the anchor to increase overall revenue. There's a famous example from The Economist in the 1990s. They offered three subscriptions: web-only for $59, print-only for $125, and print plus web for $125. The print-only option was a decoy — nobody would choose it over the bundle at the same price. But when they removed the decoy, subscriptions dropped because the anchor of $125 for the bundle was gone. Lucas: Right. The decoy anchor made the bundle look like a no-brainer. That's a classic example from Dan Ariely's Predictably Irrational. The anchor doesn't have to be a price you expect anyone to buy. It just has to be present in the choice set. Luna: Which brings us to a practical question for our listeners. If you're a marketer building a pricing page today, what should you actually do? Lucas: First, identify the plan you want most people to buy — your core offering. Then set an anchor above it that's significantly more expensive, maybe 2x to 3x the price. You can add features to justify it, but the main purpose is to make your core plan feel like a smart middle ground. Second, consider the context. The design, the copy, the testimonials — all of that sets an anchor before the price is even seen. And third, test your anchors. A/B test a high anchor vs. a low anchor and see which one drives more revenue, not just conversions. Luna: And watch out for external anchors. If your customers are comparing you to a competitor, you need to know what anchor they're bringing. If they've just seen a $200 monthly tool, your $50 plan looks cheap. But if they're coming from a free spreadsheet, $50 looks expensive. Lucas: Right. That's the context of the customer's journey. And that's why content marketing — the very thing we're doing here on this podcast — can act as a pre-anchor. If you've established authority and value through your content, the customer arrives with a higher anchor for your product. Luna: Speaking of which, this podcast is part of the Fexingo Business network, and we keep it ad-free because we think that makes the listening experience better. If you've found value in these marketing conversations, and you'd like to support that choice, you can find the link at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a simple way to help keep this content going without any ads. Lucas: Yeah, listener support really is what keeps this show independent. And it allows us to dive into topics like this without worrying about a sponsor's angle. Luna: Exactly. And we appreciate everyone who chips in — it makes a difference. Lucas: Alright, back to pricing. Let's talk about one more anchor type — the social anchor. This is when you use another person's willingness to pay as your reference. Think about the 'pay what you want' model, like the one Radiohead used for In Rainbows. The anchor there is the social norm — what did other people pay? If you see that the average donation is $8, you're anchored to that number. Luna: That's a tricky one because the anchor is invisible. You have to make it visible by showing the average. And if you show it, you can shift behavior. A study by the Journal of Marketing Research found that when a museum showed a suggested donation of $10, people gave more than when they saw no suggestion — even though they could give any amount. Lucas: So the anchor becomes a norm. And norms are powerful because they're not just numbers — they carry social pressure. If everyone else is paying $10, you feel cheap paying $5. Luna: Right. But you have to be careful with social anchors. If you set them too high, you might scare people away. If you set them too low, you leave money on the table. It's a balancing act. Lucas: And that's the art of pricing. It's not a science with a formula — it's a psychological craft. You're managing expectations, comparisons, and emotions. The anchor is your most powerful tool, but it's also the easiest to misuse. Luna: So to wrap up, I'd say: don't just set a price. Set a context. Set a reference. And test whether your anchor is actually helping or hurting your conversion. Lucas: Yeah. And remember that the first number your customer sees is the one that will stick. Make sure it's the right one.