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Thomas Hickey is pumped about his Isles: Panthers and Leafs are all even, a brutal Oilers bounce and Mamet's latest. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart Podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome episode of NHL Unscripted coming up as we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about some wild series right now.
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  Speaker 2: Whaler's Mafia is alive and well.
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  Speaker 1: Joel Quin goes back in the league news involving a Lesnar,
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  Speaker 1: David mammett'skn a new movie, and Thomas Hickey, one of
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  Speaker 1: our friends from NHL Network and Amazon Prime, has some
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  Speaker 1: great stories not only but his days with the Islanders
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  Speaker 1: at Little Limarell, but also his own PLAF memories and
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  Speaker 1: what he's seen from the second round. We start through
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  Speaker 1: JD in a way that I haven't started ever before
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  Speaker 1: in the podcast with organized Religion. I don't mean to
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  Speaker 1: start on behalf of all Muslims are have tow speaking
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  Speaker 1: all we have all Jews. But has there ever been
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  Speaker 1: a more popular pope than this pope right now? This
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  Speaker 1: guy's unbelievable, the new Pope Leo Chicago guy sports fan,
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  Speaker 1: huge White Sox fan.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? I think he might be a
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  Speaker 2: huge Blackhawks fan as well.
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  Speaker 1: I think someone's going to start throwing sports questions out
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  Speaker 1: of hey, Kane Taves, Pope, is that a house.
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  Speaker 2: And day or what.
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  Speaker 3: Who's the new Pope.
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  Speaker 1: The new Pope is a huge white Sox man. It's
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  Speaker 1: the first ever American they announced, they announced the Conclave
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  Speaker 1: conclive as you play, I'm just messing with you.
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  Speaker 2: Story in the world. People are loving the fact there's
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  Speaker 2: an American pope.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chicago, you gotta love a little shy town stand up.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: This is the weirdest year of the last two years
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  Speaker 4: of life. Just Chicago, pulpe deep dish in the Vatican,
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  Speaker 4: Lou mal Nadi's on.
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  Speaker 2: The Yes, Lou Man's up.
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  Speaker 3: In the worst pizza ever.
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  Speaker 2: It's just too thick, right deep.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's pizza soup, Yeah, pizza soup bread. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then we get to the hockey leave some Panthers. Man,
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  Speaker 1: what a staunch defensive effort. But the defending Stanley Cup champions.
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  Speaker 1: I was, I swear to got you. It was three
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  Speaker 1: to one in Game three and I'm texting by Toronto
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  Speaker 1: buddies like, well maybe this is the year. Like if
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  Speaker 1: you get past the Florida Panthers defending Stale Cup chas,
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  Speaker 1: I like your road now one of the Canes and capitals,
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  Speaker 1: who know just to even be in at Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 1: file as you Toronto in that moment would be amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And then what happens. Florida wakes up. They bounced back
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  Speaker 1: up four to three. Leaves do fource over time, but
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  Speaker 1: eventually Florida does win it. And then we just watched
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  Speaker 1: together this game four a staunch defensive effort to nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
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  Speaker 1: But Brosky was excellent some timely saves. Our buddy John
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  Speaker 1: Forestland on the call along with Shane Nighty. After two
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  Speaker 1: periods fours he was saying, you know, wolve's the story
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  Speaker 1: right now. Twenty eight saves, but the story also became
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  Speaker 1: some nasty play oel hit interference two minutes Eddieowys saking
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  Speaker 1: the broadcast could have been five minutes. You see dome
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  Speaker 1: at the end with a nasty hit, feisty series. Bottom
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  Speaker 1: line is this we're all square after four.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a kind of a That was just
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  Speaker 4: a Florida Panthers old school game from last year. It
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  Speaker 4: just they kind of they've really been investing in the
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  Speaker 4: in the hitting and physicality on the on the d
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  Speaker 4: man like you know, Chris tannev and I feel like
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  Speaker 4: Morgan Riley and and and Jake McCabe. They're they're really
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  Speaker 4: putting a beating on them. And the best part about
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  Speaker 4: that game tonight, I think for the Florida Panthers they
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  Speaker 4: can take with them is the neutral zone. I thought
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  Speaker 4: the neutral zone was tight. They weren't letting Toronto come
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  Speaker 4: through it all and they created that turnover that leads
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  Speaker 4: to the Sam Benacal. So you know, Joseph Will, you
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  Speaker 4: said it, Joseph Will get him a beer because he
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  Speaker 4: was kicking early. And you know, if I'm looking at Toronto,
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  Speaker 4: they just looked frustrated and they looked like Toronto of old.
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  Speaker 4: Too many penalties, you know, they're trying to It happens
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  Speaker 4: the past two years or even you can go back
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  Speaker 4: three years with Florida. It happens all the time. They
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  Speaker 4: just kind of drag you into their their game. You
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  Speaker 4: start getting dirty with them, you start taking penalties, and
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  Speaker 4: they love it. That's where they live, That's where they
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  Speaker 4: want to be, is where it's a really ugly, gritty game.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like they just kind of pulled Toronto
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  Speaker 4: the last two games, especially after you know, giving up
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  Speaker 4: the three to one lead in Game three, they just
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  Speaker 4: pulled them back into the deep water a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: So I think Toronto needs a reset again. The one
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  Speaker 4: thing Chris, you know, we had Chris Pronger an Angel
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  Speaker 4: Network and he said, he said, listen, you hold home, sir,
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  Speaker 4: you win at home. That's what they're supposed to do.
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  Speaker 4: Florida did it. Everybody thought Toronto was just going to
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  Speaker 4: roll over them after two games. It's now a two
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  Speaker 4: two series. You go back Toronto. Toronto's got a whole
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  Speaker 4: serve now and just regroup and hopefully Craig Barubay can
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  Speaker 4: get his team playing back the right way, because right now,
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  Speaker 4: last last tonight is was or this game four was
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  Speaker 4: just not indicative of the team that Toronto has been
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  Speaker 4: all year. It was they looked frustrated, They look frazzled.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you do it when you're a team
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  Speaker 1: that's frustrated? You have this, you know, overwhelming offensive talent
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  Speaker 1: in Matthews Marner and Neelander Taviars.
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  Speaker 2: How do you get how do you get rolling?
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  Speaker 5: Again?
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  Speaker 4: Well, just if you look there just three guys stagnant
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  Speaker 4: on the far blue. They're trying to make these little
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  Speaker 4: tip plays through the middle and through the neutral zone.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Florida is a good job of staying
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  Speaker 4: on top. So you got to kind of build a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more speed. It looked like Florida sat back
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  Speaker 4: and kind of waited for Toronto. So if I'm them,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of build the rush a little bit more.
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  Speaker 4: Get some guys swinging behind Willy Andander, Marner, William Kneelander
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  Speaker 4: and Marner. I know you want to play north and
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  Speaker 4: play quick, get it in on the for check. But
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  Speaker 4: you know when Toronts, you know, not getting the four
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  Speaker 4: check going, and they're just allowing Florida to break out
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  Speaker 4: the puck as well as turnpucks over the neutral zone.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not a good recipe.
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  Speaker 4: And Florida just eats that shit up because then they
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  Speaker 4: just start going downhill, they start taking liberties, cheap shots,
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  Speaker 4: and and then yeah, and then.
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  Speaker 3: You see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: So for Toronto, I feel like you have to get
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  Speaker 4: back to your game, get back to home ice. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you can hang your hat that Joseph Old is really
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  Speaker 4: playing well coming in in relief of Anthony Stolar's, but
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  Speaker 4: you just need to get everybody back on track now.
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  Speaker 4: It needs to be just a little bit and and
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  Speaker 4: number you know, listen number sixteen of all the points
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  Speaker 4: I've just made is stay out of the stay out
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  Speaker 4: of the box. You can't four penalties in the first period.
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  Speaker 4: You gave them all the momentum, and it took you
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  Speaker 4: two periods to kind of get back on track. I
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  Speaker 4: thought they had a good push in the third, but
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  Speaker 4: it's too late. By then, you're kind of it just
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  Speaker 4: seemed like Florida had settled in and and I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 4: the other thing too, is you're playing a hell of
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  Speaker 4: a goalie in Sergei Bobrovski, and you got to find
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  Speaker 4: ways to get to them. And I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: a little too late before they started getting in on Bobrovsky,
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  Speaker 4: and he was kind of warm and ready.
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  Speaker 3: To play hockey. And that's what you get too, too
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  Speaker 3: back to.
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  Speaker 2: You witched after the first two games.
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  Speaker 1: Pebroski was not looking like Bobrovski esque, but certainly much
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  Speaker 1: better back in home right now, and you mentioned Woll
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  Speaker 1: thirty five saves.
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  Speaker 2: He's got his group back. In the meantime.
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  Speaker 1: Miko Ranton has done it again already had an assistant
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  Speaker 1: Game three against the Jets. He's said Patrovicks game winning
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  Speaker 1: the third pri then scored a ridiculous insurance goal forty
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  Speaker 1: nine seconds later, Stars in up to to one against
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  Speaker 1: the Winnipeg Jets Patrovicks Winter technley was a kick, but
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  Speaker 1: officials a lot of after a lengthy review when they
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  Speaker 1: ruled the Jets goalie Connor Halibuck put the puck into
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  Speaker 1: his own net. Once again, much of the focus on Ranson.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to Hellibuck in a second first off. Ranton
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  Speaker 1: a playoff for the Ages, seventeen points down his last
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  Speaker 1: six games.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible.
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  Speaker 4: We just did a we just did a clip of
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  Speaker 4: random last last last video or last you know pod
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  Speaker 4: we did and again once again Miko Ranton and just
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  Speaker 4: playing herculean effort. And you know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: it was more or the lack of Connor Hellibuck on
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  Speaker 4: the road, but you know, I think and I just
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  Speaker 4: got to touch this quick. That was way too long
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  Speaker 4: of a review. That was the most non kick. He
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  Speaker 4: kicked it from behind the goal and Hellibuck swats it
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  Speaker 4: in and it took him about forty five minutes. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I just think it's it's you can't get any momentum
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  Speaker 4: if you're Winnipeg when you get on the road, Like
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  Speaker 4: I thought, this is a perfect game for Hellibuck to
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  Speaker 4: stand on his head. The Dallas was pushing, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're getting opportunities, and he just looked shaky again. And
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  Speaker 4: just these these goals that shouldn't be going in on
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  Speaker 4: a goalie of his size. It's just not something that
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  Speaker 4: gives you a lot of confidence, and I feel like
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  Speaker 4: it just frustrates your team. It slows them down. And
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Dallas did what they need to do.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Jake Ottinger was fantastic in nets back there.
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  Speaker 4: And like you said, Miko Ranton, is you look at
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  Speaker 4: this trade and it's getting worse and worse by the game.
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  Speaker 4: The further Dallas goes into this series, it's getting worse
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  Speaker 4: and worse in the sense just to the fact that
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  Speaker 4: Colorado was gonna have to play him for the next
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  Speaker 4: twenty five years over longest contract is is gott It
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  Speaker 4: just it's gotta sting so bad.
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  Speaker 1: How about nasm Casuret, former teammate, tweeting out right, number one,
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  Speaker 1: you always to keep the dogs hashtag number ninety six.
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  Speaker 2: He's been awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of big bodies, Connor Hellibucks so he looked like
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  Speaker 1: he'd figured it out. After shutout in his previous start.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, he was talking to Scott
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  Speaker 1: Opost game was yep, I had some things to work through.
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  Speaker 1: We found it now and back in my groove. So
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: much for that. He now say seven to seventy two
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  Speaker 1: save percentage on the road so far this playoff, and
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  Speaker 1: his save percentage of the last two postseason six games
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  Speaker 1: eight oh one on the road. How do you solve
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: a goalie who can pitch a shutout at home and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it looks so poorous on
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  Speaker 1: the road.
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  Speaker 4: Do you just play Eric Comray on the road and
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  Speaker 4: just hope the hope for the best. At this point,
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  Speaker 4: just play him on the road and hope for the best.
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  Speaker 4: I would just pray if I'm winning PAG next game,
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  Speaker 4: being like, listen, just take a swing here, Eric Comery,
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  Speaker 4: you're getting the start.
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  Speaker 3: You're getting the start. Sorry, Connor Wiz at home.
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  Speaker 2: I I his third Desty.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna win the heart and the guy can't win
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  Speaker 1: unless it's a Canada Life Center.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: The way he gets so small, he gets so compact,
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  Speaker 4: and he's a big guy. He relies on his structure.
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  Speaker 4: He's not a goalie that's gonna like make any acrobatic saves.
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  Speaker 4: But for some reason, you get on the road and
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  Speaker 4: he gets so small on the net and you look
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  Speaker 4: at that the ranting and goal he literally drops his
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  Speaker 4: stick as he's sliding across. And then the next goal,
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  Speaker 4: I think the fifth goal, he's completely out of his net.
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  Speaker 4: He's not even making an effort for an empty net goal.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like, oh, yeah, here you go. And it's
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: just kind of I don't get it, because he's so
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  Speaker 4: when he's on, he's so good, but just for some reason,
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  Speaker 4: he has the yips on the road and he's saying
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  Speaker 4: all the right things to the media, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: proof is in the pudding right now and he needs
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  Speaker 4: to he needs to figure it out because if they
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: go down, man, they lose this next game.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's I'm worried.
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  Speaker 4: And but again, I think we took Dallas here before
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  Speaker 4: round two, so you know, we're looking good and Dallas
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  Speaker 4: is looking really good. Sons Miro Hayskin, and so if
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  Speaker 4: they by any chance, I don't know how hurt he is,
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  Speaker 4: but if they get him back, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 4: kind of the team to beat.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm with you and I think Game four is
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  Speaker 2: and must win for Winnipeg.
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  Speaker 1: You go down three win to Dallas, You're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: win that series after with Dallas against.
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  Speaker 3: Coge Cott jury. Yeah, it's been great.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Vegas and the Oilers again.
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  Speaker 1: You and I will never count out the Oilers again
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  Speaker 1: after going up two zero in this series in which
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  Speaker 1: both of us call the Golden Knights, and in Game
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  Speaker 1: three again.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: Spirited finished tied late in the third.
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  Speaker 1: Vegas is missing mark Stone for much of the night,
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  Speaker 1: a great chance to go three to zero. Riley Smith
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  Speaker 1: cors is second the night, less than a second remaining
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  Speaker 1: a buzzer beater.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: You see that in the NBA.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Do not see that hockey point four seconds left, poor
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Leon Dreysel trying to make the play, and Edmonton's goaltending
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  Speaker 1: is the soap opera pickard out with an injury, Skinners
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  Speaker 1: back in the craze pickards day to day.
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  Speaker 2: Skinner's going to start game four.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: You were talking early, had that great set of a
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  Speaker 1: pickard five and zero, like great fear of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: and now listen, Oilers are still the driver. He throw
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  Speaker 1: two winning game fours at home, but Vegas Holy Salvation
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  Speaker 1: in that win.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it was a Riley Smith legacy game right there,
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: he was he was. I mean, you saw Rangers fans
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: on Twitter being like we I didn't see him skate
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  Speaker 4: that fast once all season with the Rangers, and then
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  Speaker 4: he looks like the.
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  Speaker 3: Youngest guy out there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that that play he made on the winning
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  Speaker 4: goal was just the wherewithal to have that much patience
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  Speaker 4: knowing there's only like three seconds left, and then and
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: again that that was a great play by him, but
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: that defensive that whole played defensively from the time he
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: got dumped into the corner. It was an absolute disaster.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: Brent Koulak going to finish his hit. He should not
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: be finishing his hit with a stick in the air.
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: He's got to get stick on puck. Puck gets through,
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: and then you have Connor and Darnel and there's diving
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  Speaker 4: at a at a shot. I don't know what you're
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: doing to stay on your feet, and then from there
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  Speaker 4: skinner overslides and then again the thing that's been like
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  Speaker 4: an absolute epidemic in this playoffs the last four games
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  Speaker 4: is Puck's going off, you know, the respective teams his
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: own goals, so to speak, Leon dry saddle, there's nobody
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  Speaker 4: around you. There's half a second left. Get your goddamn
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: stick out of the crease. Like anytime you're if you're
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: if you're a defender, And I was always told this
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  Speaker 4: when I played. If your feeder in the crease as
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: a D man, you're in trouble because if you're in
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: the crease, you're taking away space. It's easy banking off
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  Speaker 4: of you. It's half time. It's happened time and time
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  Speaker 4: again in this playoffs. I don't know why guys are
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: getting kind of kind of sucking back into the into
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: the blue paint, and they're just you're just not helping out.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: Your goalie.
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  Speaker 4: Just clear the front, stay out, that's his space. There's
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  Speaker 4: a reason why, you know, you see all these goals
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  Speaker 4: going in because it's just these luck Everyone's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: lucky bounce, lucky bounce. We know, get out of the
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: goddamn crease. Let your goalie play it. And then you know,
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Leon's a hell of a player, having such a great series.
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  Speaker 4: You know he's one of the best players in the NHL.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just one of those things. With less than
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  Speaker 4: a second left, I know you're trying to do the
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  Speaker 4: right thing. I know you're trying to help out, but
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  Speaker 4: just get your stick out of there. The game's over
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  Speaker 4: and ends up tipping it in and now it's two one.
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  Speaker 4: Vegas has life and I really thought that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: started that game, I was like, well, Edmonton looks great,
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  Speaker 4: they're looking they're looking really good right now, and then
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  Speaker 4: just Vegas kind of chipping away playing their game. I
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: know they lost mark Stone there early and and that's
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: a big loss for them, but again it's it's time.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you see Skinner Stu Skinner go back in
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  Speaker 4: that net, and it just seems like a different team
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. I don't know why if they don't
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  Speaker 4: play with confidence in front of them, but you know,
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: they looked way better against with Calvin Pickard, and that's
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: the last five six games they just I thought, I
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: thought Skin played well. He just they were giving up
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  Speaker 4: Grade A after grade A and really big chances. I
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: think that you can't be doing that with with you know,
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  Speaker 4: a goalie that's been out for six games. You gotta
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: give him some confidence to play a little bit tighter
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  Speaker 4: in front of them.
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  Speaker 1: All eyes will be on Skinner in game four again,
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  Speaker 1: Edmonton at home will try to take a three to
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  Speaker 1: one stranglehold, but the fact they've had six come back
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: victories to begin the playoff is remarkable to me. Even
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: with the Game three loss, we'll see Hurricanes and Capitals.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: I told you at the start of the playoffs, Kines
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: and Devils. I couldn't care less. I still don't care
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: about the Hurricanes. Capital Seriously, I think involving Hurricanes, you
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: just feel.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: Can you give me the ad?
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: Then?
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Just the like Kaine's Capitals is on.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Andre Svetchnakov kept up his scoring the pay six goal
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Jack Rossly, Eric Robinson, Jackson Blakell scored
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: for nothing shut out. It feels like Caroline is a
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: tune to be here. Up to one against the Washington Capitals.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Well, it's been kind of a playoffs of goaltenders and
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: and you know, Freddie Anderson, just you, Rob Brendam are
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: nothing but great things to say about him about last game.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: He really kept him in that game. But kind of
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: you're right, other than other than the Tom Wilson and
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Jordan Martina kind of battle that's been going on, or
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: there was a little bit of an Ov versus Burnsy,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: like these little one on one battles.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: It's kind of just.
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: Been a it's been a it's you know, it's been
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: one of the those series that it's the second round
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: and you kind of expect there to be a little
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: bit of a drop off. And honestly, I don't know
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: if Carolina or Washington, whoever gets past this is going
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: to be able to beat Florida or Toronto. I'm just
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: not sure they'll. They'll they'll have the juice, so we'll
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: see kind of how it goes. But you know, big,
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: I don't want, you know, if they go down three
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: to one, it's gonna be tough to come back against Carolina.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Like you said, the same thing with Dallas and Winnebeg.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: They need to tie this up. Going back to DC here.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: It would be interesting if Carolina finally makes a run
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: of all these years, would say, well, they need a
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: big strow, they need a big straw. They get Ranson,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Ranson and goes and all of a sudden, if they
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: finally actually did push through, I do think it would
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: be an amazing story. Is blanned as I find them.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Whaler's Mafia is never bland. I love Whaler's Mafia, as
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: does our mantal Anaheim general manager Paperbeek naming his former
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Hartford Whaler's team meet Joel Quinville, the Ducks head coached
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: on Thursday q as when the Stanley Cup, three times
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: head coach of the Blackhawks where coming of the Panthers
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, resigned October of twenty twenty one, so
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: he took his penance four years of penance after meeting
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: with NHL Commissioner Garry Batman with the Blackhawks response to
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Kyle each his claims that he was sextually assaulted by
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: a team assistant regarding Quinville's association with the Blackhawks during
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that time, the Ducks announced that they conducted a comprehensive
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: review of what took place while Quinnville was head coach
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: of the Blackhawks in twenty ten. A lot of opinions
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: about q coming back bear in mind is GM in
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Chicago's Stan Bowman also was done in October of twenty
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: twenty one with his name others ender manager last summer
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: again Gida, I was not there. I don't know what happened.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: If they conducted the thorough investigation him to believe that.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I think Quentville is a great coach and he's ever
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: disputed that. And to me, he took his time out.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like you know, this happenals and he got
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: a job next day. It's been four years. To me,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to kind of just say, I wouldn't say
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: life by guns, be bygones.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: But you move on? Where do you land on this?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Would you like see Quinnville blackbauld Are you happy to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: see him back in the NHL.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Well, you're really trying to set me up here, Eh,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: set me up with a nice Matza ball.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: It does a nice buile of shit.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I listen, I don't know, like to your point, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: don't know what happened, But you know, Joe Quinnville apparently
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: he said in his speech he called cow Beach and
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: he also, you know he I think he really wanted
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: to make sure that it was okay for him to
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: take this job, and then kind of was trying to
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: get his blessing, and I'm assuming Kyle Beach gave him
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: his blessing. I think, you know, Joel really did kind
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: of acknowledge that he needs to do better and he
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: needs to not you know, needs to not just kind
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: of bury his head in the sand. So hopefully he
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: learned and and you know, I think four years for
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: for this has he changed. I mean, that's on the
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: that's the choice of Verbek, and but there's no denying
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: that he's one of the best coaches in the NHL.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: And and even though he's taken two years off, you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: hopefully he's learned. And I'm sure he's been studying the
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: game as well, so he might have a few tricks
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: of his sleeve. And I think this is a good
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: coach for you know, putting all the shit aside that
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: happened in the Chicago organization. I think this is a
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: great coach for this team. I think he's just say it's.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: An attractive job, right Zegris Cutter Coachi.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you kind of look back, he's got
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: he's got a lot of experience because if you look
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: back with those years in Chicago, we had some young
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: stars there in Patrick Caine and Jonathan Taves and he
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: really taught them, you know, how to play the right way.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: And also he built this fantastic team. And I'm sure
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: he's gonna he's gonna have some suggestions for for the
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: for the management to have Pat Verbeek there and in
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Anaheim to bring in some more players to compliment these
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: young guys. But yeah, this is a team that's trending.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: They're on the up and up. I mean, they have
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: a lot, a lot of good talent. Jackson Lacomb, you
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: got mctavitch, you got Cutter Gotz, you really came on
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: here the end of the year. You got obviously what's
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: his name, that little sweet kid. To tell what's the suite?
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I always Leo Carlson. Uh, you have a lot of
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you have a lot of pieces in place to be
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: very good. What do they do with John Gibson? I
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: don't know. They have Dostaal, They have some really good
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: back end pieces that are coming coming along nicely. So yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: this is a if I'm a coach who's trying to
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: stay out of the limelight after everything that happened Chicago,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: it's a good place to go less media on the
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: West Coast, you know. I think if he went to
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: the Rangers, I don't know if that would have been
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: the best fit, and that with under that much scrutiny,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like he's just gonna kind
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: of wade his way back in and it's a good
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: division to go into because I think it's if you
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: see by this playoffs alone, like the Central is an
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: absolute monster in the Pacific, is pretty evenly matched with LA,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: with Edmonton, and with Vegas, it's very evenly matched. So
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: it's it's there's room for somebody to kind of grab
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: the reins and make a playoff push.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Tal clearly you're in favor of this move because not
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: only does you a documentary on the Whalers, but you
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and Quimball have also been fond of a little lipsweater.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys probably have mustaches for twenty years now.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Well, I think coach Q is clearly a first ballot
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: mustache Hall of Famer.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: There's nothing denying that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Great you know, great fit. I love the Whalers connection.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: There's already been speculation that he might bring in either
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Dnen or Elf Samuelson as an assistant.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: God, I'd love for him to.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Bring in both so that we got four former Whalers
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: on the team.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a great fit. This this year is perfect.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: He'll just get everything set for next year, like you
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: know this year coming up, it'll set them up for
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: the year after. This is just going to be the
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: pre and then then everything will ramp up for this team.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: They're probably you heard it here first. I think they'll
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: move Zegres this offseason.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a poll take.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I think they'll make a swing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Thomas Siki's going to join us.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: His thoughts on what has transpired so far in the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: NHL playoffs and the Leaves actually make a deep run,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: can the Jets figure things out? Plus his own memories,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the greatest hit of his career, the greatest goal of
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: his career. Thomas Siki's up next after this y'ar an
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: NHL inscripted Our next guest was drafted fourth overall by
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Kings the two thousand and seven NHL Draft.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: He played four hundred and fifty six career NHL games,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: all with the New York Islanders. He's a beloved colleague
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of ours. Couldn't be here to better time with Ales
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: fans buzzing right now with the number one overall pick.
• 21:05
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• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Thomas Hickey. Ladies and gentlemen, hecks, how are you, buddy?
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I'm great, boys and a what a treat. The three
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: of us have never been on together, but getting to
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: know both of you guys separately. Some of the highest
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: energy and best people to work with. Love listening to
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: the podcast and it's fun to be on boys.
• 21:27
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• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, big big fan of the show. Yeah subscriber, Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what the buzz is like in the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: New York area around the Knicks Nick Celtics.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: So far, the three games have been great.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Road teams won every game normally, want to mention buzzer beat.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about basketball, but no oilers. And the Vegas
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Golden Knights, the road team has won all three games
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: there and Vegas wins game through in a buzzer beater
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: own goal by Leon Dry Suttle Hicks. And all your
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: time in hockey, have you ever seen something like that happen?
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think. I mean you've seen those, you see
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: him often, and maybe it happens in the regular season
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: with like one second laughter is the pucks crossing the
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: line at the end of a period. But we're talking
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: about the stakes of the second round of the Stanley
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Cup playoffs, and I couldn't believe it, and I Obviously
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: it was a late one, so I wasn't watching it live,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and I was going through the highlights, and I'm like
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: seeing that last clip, going, okay, there's four seconds off,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Vegas wins this in regulation, how and then you see
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: it pop out like that, and you know, sort of
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: like reminiscent of the Patrick camee, Like no one really
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: knows if it's in, but Riley Smith's like I had
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the best view that clearly hit the netcam and came
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: out and I'm pretty sure it was under the under
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the buzzer. So just just wild, especially after Edmonton tied
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: it up. It would be, uh, would have been quite
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: the place to be last night at Edmonton with with
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: the buzz of that crowd before the game started.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Stars Jets right now, Hicks, You and I made four
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: glorious trips to Winnipeg, so clearly we're in favor of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the I.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Was and I got there six five times this year. Total.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Favorite restaurant there a.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Little place called Arles heard about.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Why yeah, Canadian Staple.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: We're recording this in Sunday morning, so we're not sure
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in Game four. The Leaves and Panthers
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: but this series so far, Hicks has been a whale
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of a series. Marshan scores his fourth overtime playoff goal,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: tying in for seventh most in hockey history.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Just when it looked like perhaps the Leafs would take a.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Three oh stranglehold, Florida's showed a lot of perseverance and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: resilience to come back and win him John Taver's former
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: colleague years friend back to you guys put juniors together.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: How about the way Johnny T's playing a couple of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: goals there in Game three.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: It's unbelievable with Johnny, And I mean this year, all
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: the talk, you know, especially him giving up the captaincy,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: I had a feeling it might make things a little
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: bit lighter on him. And that's sort of strange for
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: me to say, because when you do know Johnny, you
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: know that nothing really affects him. He just approaches every
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: day the exact same way. But he had a phenomenal
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: regular season and I'm not surprised he's getting it done
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: in crunch time, because even though you know, we didn't
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: have a ton of success as teammates in the playoffs,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: we did make some big strides in recent islander history,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: and he was always right at the center of it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Was the focal point. You know. When I watch him
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: play and we can talk about goals, assist all that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: When there's a loose puck on the ice, whether it's
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: a fifty to fifty and he's with somebody or that
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: pucks up for grabs and it's a foot race, he
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: comes up with it every single time. And to me,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: it's like it's sort of defensive hockey, whatever you want
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: to call it. It's just hunger. The hunger that he
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: plays with. He was like that way in practice every
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: single day. The drill didn't stop. The drill stopped for
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: everyone else. When it was like, you know, a one
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: on one down the ice, Okay, someone shoots the puck,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: goalie saves, it, goes into the corner. It's like next
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: rep with him, I'm hunting that puck down until I
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: hear a whistle every single time. And I think that
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: was just the way he was brought up. And even
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: as he gets to the backside of his career, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: he's thirty five years old now, that never strays away.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: And honestly, I think the strength that you get maybe
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: is being a little bit older a little bit wiser.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: It's even a better part of his game than it
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: was before. So I'm not surprised to see the success
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: that he's having, but really happy for him. And honestly,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: leafs wise And we were in there a bunch this
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: year seeing Toronto play, and you know, I actually believe
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: in that team. And we're talking about the Florida Panthers
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: that I think they're going to be the hardest out
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, whether it's Toronto that takes them down
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: or whether it's someone else that tries to. I think
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Toronto's able to do it. I'm like, when I did
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: my bracket, I had Toronto go to the final, which
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: is felt. It felt.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Now's your bracket looking though, right now, how's your bracket?
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Look at Dallas and Toronto in the final, Dallas winning.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: It talk about just your transition, you know, going to
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: you from from hockey to broadcasting and how how quick
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: it was and how seamless. We kind of have a
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: little bit of the same story we both ended and
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: it was just kind of like, oh, let's just try this,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: and was it something that you wanted to do or
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: is it just something that kind of presented it off
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: and you're like, oh shit, I'm pretty good at this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: It's it sort of presented itself. I was my contract
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: with the Islanders was up. I was looking to still play,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: and someone from the PR, kimber auerback the Islanders PR,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: approached me and was like, hey, MSG might have a
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: vacancy and they're looking for an analyst. And I was like, oh, cool,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: maybe someday I'll be interested, Like I didn't really think twice.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, yeah, well I'm playing,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: and like I didn't. I didn't really give it thought.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: And I was like, maybe that job will be there
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: in like two years when I'm when I'm done playing.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: And I went to a on a PTO to New
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Jersey got cut and then I was like, and I
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: remember telling my wife about that, like oh there could
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: be an analysting, Oh that's cool. Then I got cut
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: and we're like, I'll just pick up the phone and ask,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: like maybe that's something I'll like, I haven't thought about it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: I didn't think about it when I was a player.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I'm not really sure why. And I picked up the
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: phone and sort of like I was like, just give me,
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: give me a chance, give me a shot, give me,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: give me one audition and I'll see if I like it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm good, maybe I'm not. I think it's one
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: of those things that you don't know until you try it,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: and it's it's pretty complicated. It's it's it's a challenge.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: But I sort of fell in love with that right away,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: that it was just something that's that's challenging, but at
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: the same time, it's like playing. It's a passion and
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: you love to do it. And I fell in love
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: with it right away.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: You've been an asset not only for NHL never cam
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Azon Pume, but also as you mentioned, the Islanders and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: MSG speaking of those aisles. Normally, I thought it more
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: with thecubilation, number ten to number one, three point five
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: percent chance get the number one overall, pick Hicks and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: your guys come through again. I understand this isn't a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: draft with a celebrating type or a badard type, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Hagen Shaefer, there's big names out there to.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Go from a.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I'm so thrilled and like it was. I was so
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: on my couch and i was like having a non
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: hockey night after a long season. I'm like, Okay, I
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: owe this to my wife, not to be watching hockey
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: all night, and my group texts for my MSG crew
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: started filling up and there was like a screenshot of
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Islanders at one and then everyone else. And I was like, oh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: it's a gag, Like I'm sure someone could, but they
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: ran a simulation. They probably ran a million of them,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: and like, oh, that was one of them, someone's screenshot
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: and it got out and I was like, oh whatever.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Then like my phone keeps blowing up and I'm like,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: wait a minute. I went looked. I couldn't believe it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I still can't. It's good fortune, stroke of luck. But
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: what I will say, like and Jay, like you're there
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: in San Jose, You've got to be awful. Sorry, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: should rephrase that, you've got to be really bad and
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: completely tearing it down to maybe get the chance to
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: get a first overall pick. Maybe they're all going to
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: be Maybe some of them will be mac when celebrating,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Maybe some of them will be Nico Hescher. It doesn't
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: really matter. You have the first pick. You have the
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: best asset of the year in your hands, and it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: free and you didn't have to suffer to get it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: And that's what the Islanders are dealing with in it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not saying you pick a kid first
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: overall and all of a sudden you're gonna be you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: you're now a team to beat for the next ten years.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: That's not how it works. But it gives you this
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: foundational building block that you can add to and build around,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: especially when you haven't already torn it down. Like so,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: they're so lucky. And as far as the picks the
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: players to pick, I've got no idea because I don't
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: watch junior hockey. I've seen clips on these top guys
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: they're talking about. I can't even comment there. I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I think you really got to comb through it. But
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: it's really unique too because this first pick, it's like Schaefer,
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: who sounds like an absolute studd and I saw him
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: play at World Juniors, played like seventeen games of hockey
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: last year. So you really got to be thorough and
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: have a plan for whoever you pick. But it's an
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: asset however you use it, that just extremely fortunate for
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: them to get.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I want you to take us through your memorable overtime
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: goal in twenty sixteen versus Florida and the playoffs. Walk
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: us through it that night, the locker room afterwards the celebration,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: which wasn't my favorite, but I loved you coming down
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: the middle of the well.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It was like it looked a little rushed, but it
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: was exciting. Here's the thing, it's it was fun to
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: see you.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Who's somebody that you know, you know, I've I've played
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: against you and then I met you and you're very
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: stoic and I tried to get you to laugh with
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: with JD. Love, I got a little chuckle, but that
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: was like you were elated. So it's pretty cool. But
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: but yeah, it just take us through that night and that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: Goal well with JD Love too, I was I had
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: a lot of emotions going through. Man, it just it
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: just came off as a little chuckle, but it meant
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: a lot. That was blackout state. That was complete blackout state.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: You know that that year, particularly in playoffs like that
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: was probably the best hockey I'd ever played, just you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: for like three four week stretch and I think you're
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: iNTS just come come out of you when you're at
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: the top of your game, and there was you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: it was a long shift, and it's a long change
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: in overtime and and it was you know, It was
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: cool looking back too, because it was like the armor
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Yager was covering me and like he he thought the
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: puck was going to go up the wall and his
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: quick turnover. I just happened to be in the right
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: spot and brock Nelson made like such a sneaky, little
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: understated pass between the sea of the defenseman and like
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I had no time, I was coming in and just
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I've ever really done that in
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: a regular season game where I'm like, oh, I'm on
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: the point, I'm just gonna sprint down to the slot
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: area and get something. But like I said, it was
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: just sort of instinctual, sort of got it off as
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: quick as I could, didn't really aim and beat the goalie.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: And those are those are those moments that will live
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: with you forever. And I remember after that game, I
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: had like my my family was there. It was such
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: a big moment. I had like the biggest headache from
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: guys tapping me on the head after that, and then
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: the rush of adrenaline. I remember waking up the next day.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I was like felt like I got hit by a bus,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: just because as a defenseman that didn't score a ton
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: of goals. It was like it just takes over you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: So that was that was one memory that will stick
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: with me for the rest of my life. That feeling
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: after and now when I'm watching guys like, you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Riley Smith scored a big goal last night. He's scored
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: many big ones. But I'm like, it's cool they get
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: they get to feel that, and maybe not as important
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: if they do it more often. But I love I
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: love watching overtime because I love seeing an unlikely hero
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: and just sort of thinking to myself, Wow, they get
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: to experience that for about twenty four hours. It's really cool.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Well we're doing memory Lane with Hicks. How about you
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: had on Jonathan Drew in the best of your career? Amazing?
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that one he he was freshly out of junior.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: I think it was his second year. It might have
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: been his rookie year. Another one of those things. It
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: was sort of like a little bit of a gamble
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I had was Haylock Posa was you know, I knew
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: if I got beat inside that someone was there, Like
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna end up on the highlight reel because
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: I had someone back, and uh, it was like it
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: was like running into a bag of pillows that someone
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: just stacks and and you're you're sort of going full
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: speed and then that thing's coming in and it just
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: like I didn't feel anything at all. And I mean
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: the thing I say this one like last laugh goes
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: to Jonathan Duranne because he went to the quiet room
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: for not just the rest of the period, like a
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: period and a half. Then all of a sudden, they
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: open up the gate and outcomes Druanne. We're all like,
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: how was this guy? How was this guy? Back in
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: the game? He was unbelievable and they ended up beating
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: us that game and he was a big part of it,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: so full full credit to him. But uh, yeah, that one,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: that one felt good. I wish it was I wish
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: it was someone I really despised because I got nothing
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: against him at all, But there's not. There's not too
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: many people in my completely despised lest anyways, so uh,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I guess it had to be him.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, another guy I think it was that
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: series too, that's probably in your despised list that he
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: worked with is Brian Boyle because he threw it absolutely here, Yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: which is one of the dirtiest plays I've seen.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: If I tried to. If I tried to go through
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Boiler with that hit, it probably I probably just would
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: have winded myself. So I guess it couldn't have been him.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Loul Leverarella no longer the Alanders, But I'm sure you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: got stories for days X he treated you well and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: clearly is a Hall of Famer hockey legend.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Favorite Lou story for.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Me, Yeah, one one that always sticks out. It was
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: just sort of funny. It was, uh so Lou had
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: just got hired. He came in and live. I live
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: on the island in the summer, so like me, it
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: was me, cal Qluatterbuck and someone else. And we're just
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: sitting in the lounge after we worked out. We're we're
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: eating lunch and Lou comes in and like Lou's always
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: popping in and out. Uh, he's sort of everywhere. He's
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: he's moving around all day and he's you know, he's
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: he's poking in everywhere because he's got a great feel
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: for what's going on, not just at the top, like
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: on every single level. And he pops in and he
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: looks at me and he goes, I was wearing number
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: fourteen at the time, and he goes, what do you
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: think of your number? And in my head, I'm like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: is he talking about my phone number? Like I got
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: an area I got a Seattle washing the area code.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Like like what He's like fourteen? What do you think
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: your number? And I'm like, oh, I love fourteen. Yeah,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I've worn it since I got here. Really good for me, Yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: it's great. Like I didn't know where he was going.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I'm just like caught off guard. And he's like, I
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: want to change your number. I want you in a
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: lower number. I'm putting you in four. And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: that was great. And Lou walks out and clutter looks
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: at me. He goes, you really bitched out there, and
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I don't know. I didn't know
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: what to say. And then I was number four after that,
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: But uh, that one sticks out to me, and that's,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: you know, that's sort of Lou. You he's got a plan,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: he's got he wants things to that he likes him
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: in the way that he's done it. And that was
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: an example of you just go sure whatever you want Boston,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: if you if you do what he wants you to
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: do in the end, when uh, you know, when you
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: need something he's going to be the guy that you
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: turn to. So I didn't have a strong rebuttal I
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: wish I kept fourteen, but uh, that's that. That's my story.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: And I mean one thing that lou does love as
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: well as facial hair, and he has this weird knack
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: for cleanliness. You know, if you were to pick one
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: guy in that team that had took the deepest exhale
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: and was like, finally I can fucking grow a beard
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: and grow my hair out, who do you think it
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: would be?
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: There's a good there's a good little list a clutter
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Cal Clutterbuck. You know, since he retired then he was
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: he's working with us with msg full beard. He's got
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: it back right away. He would be one. I mean
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: a couple other guys stand out, like nick Letty got
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: traded from us, But just when you look at the
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: side by side of nick Letty with beard, nick Letty
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: with out, it's like, oh man, what was it someone?
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I think it was. It was one of the first
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: days of training camp, I think, and someone came in.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: You know, when you've got like fifty guys in camp
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: and you don't know who's who. And LEDs always has
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: this beard. It defines him. You look at him now,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: great beard always has it. And someone came in and
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: like shook his hand, being like hey, hey, I'm Adnan,
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: nice to meet you, and it was like one of
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: his teammates. The guy didn't recognize him because he didn't
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: because he didn't have a beard. I got. I got
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to try to remember who it was. So lads is
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: definitely one I think for for guys like Kyle Polmer
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: that could grow a beard in like five hours, it
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: might be a little bit of a relief not to
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: not to have to do it every single day. But yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: there's there's certainly guys that will will feel freed up
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: from that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Two more from me stranger postgame ritual Amazon Prime after
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the game John fors and would not eat. He fastened
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: on game days are the fact I would only drink
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: pepsi after the games and support of our spot.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: I have to go with foes. I know you love
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: your your pepsi, I mean fast game day. He doesn't
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: eat all game day. But the thing that you got
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: to understand about him, he's like the big busiest man
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: in hockey. So not only is he not eating all day,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: but he was probably up at three thirty or four
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: o'clock because he needs to be at his the earliest
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: flight of the day, like three hours early. So he
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: wakes up, sleeps a couple hours, and then he just
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: fasts all day, grinds and works and prepares the entire day.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: We go, we get to the rink, we'll go for
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: a meal for his note, I'm heading to the booth.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: More prep and then once the game's over, he's just
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: savoring the tiniest little morsel of food after the game,
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, how are you doing this? And then
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: he's got to wake up at like four o'clock the
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: next morning and fly somewhere because he's probably on a
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: triple header. I don't know how he does it. It's
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the strangest thing, the fact that he's functioning, let alone
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: being like one of the best, one of the best
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: in the business. I don't know how he does it,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: but it's so bizarre.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Jesus louise I. So he doesn't eat.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Anything, No, he won't.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: He won't, not even after after the game. He has.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: He'll break his fast after the game, but leading up,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: like before the game, he's like, no, I like it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: He like makes me on edge a little bit and
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: then he's all fired up.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, psycho psycho stuff crazy.
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: Should ask he's not doing that right jay No, Russo, Russo,
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: I've never seen.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I asked him to.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: He'll he'll be eating popcorn, peanuts cot like he eats
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: about six times and like, I'm like, doesn't that like
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: bother your like, you know, speaking voice. He's drinking coffee
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: with like milk at it, and I'm like, he's like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I'm good. He'd always look over me and just be
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: like stick with me, kid.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Last thought was close up with Thomas Sicki on the ice.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: You're a high character guy's a teammate. You're a high
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: character guy, well liked, respected by all. And I think
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: of the fact you and JD are the same age.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: You've overcome a lot of adversity in your life. It's
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: one thing to lose a parent, but to also lose
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: a sibling.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And you've spoken really eloquently and passionately about losing your
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: brother but also losing your mom. Today, on Mother's Day,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: how about a fond remembrance of not only your brother
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: but also your mom.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I appreciate that. It's first Mother's Day that
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: you know, can't pick up the phone and call her
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: for me, so many memories. I think we'll come back
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: to hockey, though, like she she did not know the
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: game she watched more. I said this at her at
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: her funeral for a little bit of levity, but maybe
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: all of us here tall included, like she's seen as
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: much hockey as is probably more than ninety nine point
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: nine percent of people, and probably more than ninety percent
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: of true hockey fans, because she watched every single game
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: that I played from a young age, growing up, and
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: even when I moved into broadcasting, she watched more hockey
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: than anyone. And I don't think anyone knew less about
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: hockey than by mom. Like playing and simple, she was
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: just doing it because she loved me. She met my teammates,
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: she them, she you know, you're on the team. I
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: want the team to win. You fall in love with that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: But as far as icing and off side and penalties
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: disallowed goals, like, she's got no idea. She's just tuning in, uh,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: because she loved me and she loved that I loved
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: the game. And I think that's that's my biggest takeaway,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: And I think I got a good laugh when I
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: said that, because everyone was like, yeah, your mom, she's
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: she's not. She doesn't know the ins and outs of hockey,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: but she's watched more than anyone. So that's what sticks
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: out to me the most. She she loved it because
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: I loved it, and that means a lot to me.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who cares what icing means as.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Long as mom lives exactly.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thomas Hecky, you know him, you love me.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You can hear him and see him on MSG, Amazon
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Prime and NHL Network.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Here was an iron man, by the way.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: On Amazon Prime, you can see what you want about
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: force and he still did miss a game. Thomas Dick
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: one single game and now after being the busiest man
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: in hockey. I don't know what you're doing with yourself.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I've seen you once in the schedule NHL Network.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Have you been spending your days the last month, even
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Ashley catching up on shows or TV.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm tapped out now. A couple a couple of
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: shows at the network, going to England this week coming up.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Get away from it all. That's the beauty of it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: You get so wrapped up in it. It's the best.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: You love it, you don't want to separate, and the
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: once you do, you got to recharge the batteries. So
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that trip. And yes, a lot
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: of catching up on TV movies and I know, well
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: we're away, it's we come back. We're gonna be uh,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: We're gonna have a full schedule of stuff coming out.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: So that's always fun too.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: And tell you're gonna love this. Hicks is such a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: fan of Anora like you and me. He didn't down Hicks,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah I did. We did a full Anora day. My
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: wife and I were two friends of ours and went
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: went down Brighton Beach, Coney Island if if you've seen it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: We went to Tatiana's. We had dinner and it turned
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: into like we were like the only English speaker was
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: all Russians. And the night actually ended with us going headquarters,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: go to headquarters in the city to like relive the
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: stripper scene of it all, like we had to we
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: had to touch everything. That was a late night and
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: a long one, but it was It was really cool.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: We loved it. And I never like live in New
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: York Longa never been to Brighton Beach and it was
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: like felt like you were in the movie.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: It was really cool.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sick to my stomach.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: And I know you. I know you hate it, JD.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: So I don't.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I don't hate it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I just said, let's call let's call a spade a spade.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a soft core porn. It's not true.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: It was, it was, it was excellent.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: It's a great Academy of Orgining film. And Thomas Aiki
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: is a future award winner as well. Thanks, you're the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: best money.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Thanks guys, great talking. See you boys.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 8: Hm.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Hext one of our favorite guys. Honestly a class act.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: He's always found a listen to. Like JD said, and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: g doesn't throw flowers less he means. He's an articulate guy.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: He's a smart guy. Hicks sees the game. Well, I'm
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: just blown away by that fact.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Rusanowski liked me as a snacker, little popcorn, some chips,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't worry but getting stuck in his teeth, that is
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: one of that man is the Hall of Famer.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I love it. He's got a great larynx like you do.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks what's the good of tabas sicky. We're gonna get
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: in some fun stuff here. But Lesner, that's right, A Lesner.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I think we might be doing three stars. Tala wants
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you to do three Stars. You might do it anyways.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Some meantime I want to do a little Stenophile in
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: sixty here and talk about David mammontt. I've been on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the Stavid Manett run because at Glengarry glen Ross I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: told you guys about seeing that on Broadway Bob Odenkirk
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Tony Ward nominated.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Well, when I went to go see it, there was
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a sign there, the good old splash.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: The QR code.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: David Mammont has his first new film in seventeen years.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Be the first to pre order I Said, I'm In
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Henry Johnson, which played in Santa Monica, near where Teal
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: is at least in California.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: It came out in twenty twenty three.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Manmittt wrote the play during COVID because he was just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: bored out of his mind and shy Lah Buff who's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: also a Hollywood outcast.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Right now, say what.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: You will about Shia off the field, so to speak.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: There's been allegations of unruly behavior towards women, mesmerizing is
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: an actor, Mammont's an outcast. Why well in liberal Hollywood,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: He's been it very clearly.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: He is as pro Trump as it gets.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Manmontt Wroten article years ago said why stop being a
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: brain dead liberal? And even in this latest column of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: The Holiday Report, Manman said, Oh I love Trump.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I think he's great. So what happens. You've got one
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: guy who's about as.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: New conservative as it gets, one guy allegations of improp
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: per behavior. Well, hell, we'll just make a movie and
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: stream it online. All those David Mamont fans and shy
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: fans will go to Henry Johnson dot com pre order
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: for eight bucks like I did, or maybe Jason de
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Burris's wife will paid ten dollars to watch it. And
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's a fantastic movie. Now I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: hesitate to say this. I'm curious what you Joe will
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: think because this is essentially a filmed play. It is
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: three acts, it's four scenes.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: There's no I mean this is you're.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Watching this, Timids and to go, okay, this clearly is
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: based on the play. This feels I'm watching, you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: feels like I'm watching Shakespeare or something, but is such
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: a gifted writer.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: It's so much fun to listen to his dialogue.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, Shyla buff is nothing short
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of mesmerizing. Again, I always think he's been a great actor,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and with Mammitt's words, with that dialogue, you can just
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: make it sing.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't matter who the actor is.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And essentially it's you know one thing about Mammon as
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: you look at his movies, whether it's The Verdict, The Untouchables, Glennarry, Glenross,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: American Buffalo, like, Yeah, Wag the Dog is a great movie.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, his scripts.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: The way that these characters talk is just so much
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: fun to listen to. And it's always about power somebody.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: People use words to get what they want. This review
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: matter of fact from The Daily Beast. As always, Mammitt's
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Pros is a staccato wonder full of stops and starts,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: half formed questions and answers and retorts that cause the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: chat to double back on itself until things twist into
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: knots even as the material forges arwared in a rapid clip.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: It's an exhilarating dance and Bowers more than up the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: challenge of the writer's script, and Chris Bower' is one
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: of the guys who's in the wire. He's great again, Lebuff,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this means for his career, he
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: says in the Hollward Reporter article, which encurags people to
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: check out. Hey, I don't care what happens in my life.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I got to work with David Mammont is an all
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: time great. He's a great writer. I encourage people to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: check out Henry Johnson Henry johnsonmovie dot com. If you
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: want to check it, go ahead to tell. I know
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you do find this interesting role. Right, Both these guys
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: are outcasts. Hey, fine, if nobody likes this, nobody wants it,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: we'll just put the movie online.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Screw it. We don't need to archie for.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: For I mean, regardless of listen, I'm not going to
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: get into what they've done away from the screen. I
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: think they're both talented guys. I loved Shi lah Buff
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: and Peter, but Peanut Butter Falcon.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: If anyone's seeing that, oh nice, such a good movie, mam.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: It is obviously like in the pantheon.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I say, good for them.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: You know, let's let's put something together ourselves, put it
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: on ourselves. We'll pocket all the money. We don't have
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: to go through the studio system. Like I admire the
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: diy ethos this project.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: You see more of that now though, No.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's more of that going on in the industry
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: of do it yourself and and kind of just bet
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: on yourself and back yourself, I think than ever before.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: No yeah, and I think you didn't see that in
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: the past, before you needed the studio to.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Back hit night. Like whatever, I'll make the movie myself.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I'll do it a shoestring budget. Like I said, it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a film play. We'll put it online. It'll be fabulous.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Henry johnsonmovie dot com. Western Hockey League O wait. Oilers
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: fans enjoying their current playoffront, perhaps none more than Bayron Munich,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: left back and Canadian national team star Edmonton's own Alfonso Davies.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: His celebrations have been great. People are talking about this.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're a soccer guy GD, but
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: all fonds of Davies loving this right now.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah ONMB one one, oh come here.
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's a go that's a golasso.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: That's a golasso, bron.
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: I didn't know you had it like this. Yeah, man, are.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Doing doing doing doing rubbish rubbish?
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: Boh get night, get about it in cornhi coror do
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: his thing.
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: Look at this inside play take that inside outside? Watch out,
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: lottle guy.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: You you where you.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: Going pasta finished?
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: That? That is simple hockey right there? Where are you
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: going inside?
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: Outside?
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: Moving feet, moving feet, don't trip me. It's gonna be
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: a foul o you whie sliding? Give me that easy.
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: David is too good man.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Huh yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm gonna. I'm gonna
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: have fonds of Davies fan. I haven't checked in a
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: ton on this, but you know, listen, that's why we
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: do research before.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Uh your thoughts, okay, tell you put the notes you
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: don't check out right now?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I'm checking should live check it out, and then gave
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: his reaction while I t up the next strike. God
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you watch it like Western Hockey League officially unnoticed. Duke
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Lesnar selected by the Medicine Hat Tigers in the fifth
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: round the WHL Prospects Draft. The fourteen year old is
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the sun, a former w w E and UFC champion.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Brock Lesnar and wait for it, former w w F
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: diva Sable. That's bringing back memories.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Now you're up my alley. Now ww now we're starting
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: to talk here.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: So this kid, Lesnard played the season for the Notre
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Dame Hounds in will Cox, Saskatchewan. And could you imagine
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: if he's got JD is the nastiness of his old man,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, a Lesner on skates.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I'm intrigued.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Oh and Sable, Let's not discount what Sable did in
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: the WWE.
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean she was one of the first Davas
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: right her. Yeah, but she was like she was, yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: she was, she was re finisher. Yeah, she's hell of
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: a wrestler. Both of them were.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: And they you know, Lesner went on into the also
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: had a little stint in the UFC. It was champ
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: was amazing what he did. And and I think, uh,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: if he has half of that their son, I mean,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a sight to see. By the way, Yeah,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: just watch the live reactions. Amazing stuff.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: We love it. I love one, Yeah, I love one. Yeah.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: And again I know all fonds of Davies. I just
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't see the live reactions, so you know.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I I I appreciate your honesty. Many an analysts have
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: just lied to I'm like, oh, it's great to see.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I I'll admit I'll be like, hey, listen, I I
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: miss that in the notes.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I was busy on the peanut butter falcon David Mammott.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I did like the David peanut butter falcon stuff.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that wass He's he's on fire today and that
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: was that was my That was my bad.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Guys, are we doing three Stars?
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: You want to do with dal? I havena, okay, tell
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: kick it off? You got sketch the cough tals svetch.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: Sorry, so yeah, no, I was going to go with
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: with Andre Cough. I know we're kind of I don't
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: want to spend too much time talking about the Hurricanes,
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: but they have the they have the pieces.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: We're pissing off every Hurricanes fan listening.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Listen. They are whalers. Right.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: It's a great market with a great building and one
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: of the better tailgates in the league.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I'll say that much.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, such a what's the biggest knock
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: been on the on the Hurricanes?
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Year after year? They don't know a superstar. They don't
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the guy game breaker game.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: They can't score.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: The offense dries up every year in the postseason, and
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: now they're starting. They've been getting some depths scoring, But
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: the most important piece, listen, they don't have the superstar
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: in Rattinan. Can sveetch Nikoff give you sixty to seventy
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: percent of what Rattinan's giving the Stars. You know, the
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: most goals he ever scored in the postseason before these
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: playoffs was four. He already has six and eight games.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: The Hurricanes are four and oh when he scores this postseason.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: And again for a team whose biggest issue year after
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: year in the playoffs is scoring, if he can maintain
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: this pace, that's a huge, huge piece for a team
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: that just traded a huge superstar that is now putting
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: up Gretzky numbers in the playoffs.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Well said Jenny, your pick for Star of the week.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it just based off of last game.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: But listen, Dallas Stars, We're gonna go there. Okay, Mira
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: no no I listen. We talked about random enough. I
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: got to give some flowers to a d man, Thomas Harley.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Thomas Harley coming in this season, what he's done with
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Miro Hayskin and injured is is a sight to behold.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: He's really developed into a superstar on the back end
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: and and a true I think at number one d man. Now,
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: when Hayskin comes back, he's probably gonna get a little
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: bit less ice, but he's proven that he controlder the
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: load for this team and Amy a golden assist last game,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: and I just think he's really really it's it's it's
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: just a testament to what Jim Nil and the Dallas
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Stars have done with developing his young talents. And I
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: just think he's he's just been fantastic. He's playing the
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: most minutes out of anybody per night on the back end,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: and I think on the team and it's just, yeah,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: he's my h He's my sta Thomas Harley.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It's a great pick. I have a buddy mine who's
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: casual hockey. Fanny's not huge, but obviously the national love
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: he watches it. And when he was watching Four Nations,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: he goes, hey, I've been sleeping on this guy.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Who is he?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't think you're alone in that.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of Thomas Harley's not a
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: household name. Yeah, but he is going to be now,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: and you're right. He played great at Four Nations and
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: it's great to see him come into his own because
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: he's really been a blossoming star.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Good on you to give someone some love.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I'll go to Bobrovski pitches a shut up for the
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Pantasy game they had to win.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Bob stops twenty three shots. I'm with him. The Rley
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Smith call great for Vegas.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought, yeah, we had Riley Smith too.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll go with Bob. Panthers are back in
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: the series. It's now best of three as a series
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: shift to Toronto.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: This was a ton of fun. Thanks checking a selling
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: scripted What number is this for us? Tell? I feel
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: like are we in twenty.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Five now or sixty seven? It feels like.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Episode twenty seven according to the notes, So we are
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: just flying along right now. Thanks to all the supporters
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: out there. I make sure you follow us. I was
• 53:57
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• 53:59
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• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: We're not allowed an Instagram account, yet we.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Get one of the social media clip per episode, though,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: so hopefully it's a good one.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. I'll see you later this week.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 54:30
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