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Broadcasted Hate, Expected Grace (Racial Slur at Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo) · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
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Speaker 1: and everybody.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
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Speaker 2: Lauren came in hot. Hey, y'all, what's up.
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Speaker 1: It's laurenl Rosa and this is the latest with Lauren L.
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Speaker 2: Rosa.
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Speaker 1: This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment,
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Speaker 1: news and all of the conversations that shake the room.
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Speaker 2: Baby back the checking in behind the scenes of the Grind.
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Speaker 1: And to be honest, I feel like this whole episode
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Speaker 1: is going to feel like a check in because I
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Speaker 1: am fresh off of the Finland at Sea Cruise presented
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Speaker 1: by femit Forward Miss Heather Lowry Adella work Girl. She
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Speaker 1: put on a cruise, y'all, Like that is so fly
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Speaker 1: to me, Like I kept telling her, like, girl, you
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Speaker 1: don't understand how amazing this is. It was her first year.
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Speaker 1: During the cruise, there were over twelve to fifteen hundred
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Speaker 1: black women sailing the sea and just honestly filling up
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Speaker 1: our cups. And I go to a lot of different
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Speaker 1: things that are like empowermen and women and black women,
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Speaker 1: and you know, and you feel good when you leave
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Speaker 1: those spaces, but this was so different. I think number
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Speaker 1: one because we spent days together and we didn't have
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Speaker 1: a choice, Like we were literally in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the sea at one point when we were going from
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Speaker 1: Miami to the Bahamas and you couldn't get off the boat.
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Speaker 1: Phone service was there, WiFi was kind of iffy every
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Speaker 1: now and then, so you had to interact.
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Speaker 2: You had to just enjoy.
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Speaker 1: And originally I planned to just fly in me and
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Speaker 1: I was gonna bring my homegirl that shoots a shout
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Speaker 1: out to Brianna Tanzy just be photography. I was gonna
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Speaker 1: bring her with me to shoot my content versus my
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Speaker 1: normal content person because I'm like, I want another black
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Speaker 1: woman to women to experience this with me. But then
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Speaker 1: two of my friends reached out and was like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: what's up with the crews? I want to come, And
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that it was like a friend circle
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Speaker 1: there and I wasn't just there just with Brie. I mean,
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Speaker 1: me and Brie would have had a great time too,
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Speaker 1: but it felt like a girl trip. And I'm always
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Speaker 1: so like work, work, work, work, work out of sight
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Speaker 1: is out of mind. You got to keep showing up
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Speaker 1: or anybody gonna want you to show up at all.
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Speaker 1: Like the way I think and talk to myself, I
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Speaker 1: realize this weekend is not only very unfair to myself,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's very like work, career goal oriented, and
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Speaker 1: it's nothing wrong with that. But I think what we
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Speaker 1: have to realize, and what I realized coming out of
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Speaker 1: this cruise this weekend is you're in nowhere by accident.
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Speaker 1: Everything that is happening for you and in your life
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Speaker 1: is happening so that you can learn and grow. And
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Speaker 1: the rooms that you were walking into got into that
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Speaker 1: room for you and pulled up that chair and made
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Speaker 1: it warn for you way before you got there. So
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Speaker 1: out of sight is not out of mind. Out of
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Speaker 1: sight can be resting, can be healing, can be you know,
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Speaker 1: having conversations that just make you feel good, eating good food, partying,
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Speaker 1: you know, remember in the times, like all of that
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Speaker 1: stuff matters, And I think for myself sometimes I can
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Speaker 1: try to work it away, so like when I'm feeling
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Speaker 1: anything or you know, like now that I'm able to
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Speaker 1: do and help a lot more people family wise, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I never want to lose this. So every I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you're only as good as your last story, and it's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but you're only as good as your last story, But
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Speaker 1: you're only as good as the substance and the depth
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Speaker 1: and the approach and execution. And I mean it's like
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Speaker 1: if you shooting a shot, you can shoot a bunch
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Speaker 1: of different shots, but what goes in the rim is
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Speaker 1: what matters. And when you hit that crazy you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, buzzard beater three pointer, Like it's there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of practice work and accuracy that goes into that.
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Speaker 1: And in order for me to be accurate and to
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Speaker 1: you know, be able to show up and you know,
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Speaker 1: just do all of the things, like I need to
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Speaker 1: just be able to be like, no, it's okay, we
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Speaker 1: gonna enjoy this weekend. We not just we gonna work.
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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I know the girls had a
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Speaker 1: good time. I hosted the HBCU block party while they're
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Speaker 1: in a few other events, and we had a great time.
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Speaker 1: But I got what I needed too, And it was
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Speaker 1: really unintentional, like I it was just it was just
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere and the presence, like it made you realize, like, damn,
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Speaker 1: we so fire.
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Speaker 2: He's so dope.
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Speaker 1: And I think every time I get to see you guys,
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Speaker 1: my little riders, Because I had a lot of people
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Speaker 1: coming up to me and talking about the podcast and oh,
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Speaker 1: we want to see more of this on the podcast,
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Speaker 1: more of that on the podcast. So whenever I get
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Speaker 1: to see you guys in real life, I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: like this is what this is, what it all is
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Speaker 1: is like for It's like trying to figure out what
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Speaker 1: the impact is. It's sometimes hard for me because I
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Speaker 1: think some of the stuff can be monotonous at times,
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Speaker 1: but then I had to remember, like, it only is
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Speaker 1: if you make it, and because these people are receiving
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Speaker 1: so much more than just a news update.
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Speaker 2: They're receiving the journey.
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Speaker 1: The grind, the inspiration, the passion you have for the
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Speaker 1: way that you go about it. And it's teaching other
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Speaker 1: people how to do things and just who you are.
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Speaker 1: And then other people that come from where you come
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Speaker 1: from and look how you look will get that same. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me take a second to see if this girl
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Speaker 1: got it, or to see if this guy got it,
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Speaker 1: because when Lauren did it, like y'all, I am ready
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Speaker 1: to go and get on my flight, but I am
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Speaker 1: just I'm just so grateful for like God putting me
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Speaker 1: in spaces that I need when I don't even know
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Speaker 1: I needed like, I can't that I literally can't even
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Speaker 1: describe what this weekend did for me. So I wanted
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Speaker 1: to take a you know, a second to shout out
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Speaker 1: that team and over you know, the weekend I had.
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Speaker 1: I helped craft the story run down for the show
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Speaker 1: on Monday, even though I decided to take the day off,
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Speaker 1: I was going to come into work from the boat,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I want to spend this
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Speaker 1: last day really like filling my like my friends that
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Speaker 1: came with me, and just figuring out how I feel
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Speaker 1: after this weekend and why I feel that way. But
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Speaker 1: we crafted the run of show me and the other producers,
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Speaker 1: and so I saw everything that was happening with Michael B.
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Speaker 1: Jordan and Delry Lindo and you know, Sinners and the
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Speaker 1: bathto Awards and just the conversations that were sparked by
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Speaker 1: that moment. And for those of you guys who are
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Speaker 1: not familiar, we're going to get into it in the
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Speaker 1: latest right now. So during the BAFTA Awards, there was
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Speaker 1: a man in the audience who was the subject of
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Speaker 1: a film that was also you know, being honored at
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Speaker 1: the awards. This man's name was John Davidson and John
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Speaker 1: Davidson is a man who suffers with a version of
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Speaker 1: Tourett's I'm not even gonna attempt to say the name
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Speaker 1: because I can't, but I will insert how you said here,
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Speaker 1: and he during the broadcast shouted out the N word
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Speaker 1: while Michael B. Jordan and del Ry Lindo were on
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Speaker 1: stage presenting Best Visual Effects Award to Avatar Fire and
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Speaker 1: as should I say a listen to the in word
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Speaker 1: being shot at.
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Speaker 2: Jo and I are delighted to be presenting the first
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Speaker 2: BAFT of the night for a vital part.
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Speaker 3: Of movie making.
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Speaker 1: So after this, you know, BBC got a lot of
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Speaker 1: backlash because y'all are airing it and you guys don't
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Speaker 1: even take the time delay to like edit it out
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Speaker 1: before it's put out on your platform. BAPTA got a
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Speaker 1: lot of backlash because they came out and apologized, but
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Speaker 1: their apology also included a look, let's just have a
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Speaker 1: conversation about the disability and what the disability does. But
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Speaker 1: they had no conversation about what two black men standing
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Speaker 1: in a room full of people, or anybody watching, any
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Speaker 1: black person watching, has to endure when you hear that,
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Speaker 1: and and hear it shouted in a room full of people,
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Speaker 1: and having to watch Michael B. Jordan and Delvary Lindo
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Speaker 1: basically like just eat it. Like they took a pause.
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Speaker 1: They continued, but you could tell the restraint that they
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Speaker 1: had to show in that moment. And and if I'm
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Speaker 1: just having, you know, an honest conversation, I remember when
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Speaker 1: Kanye West was doing things like the White Lives Matter
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Speaker 1: T shirts and saying different things in song and against
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Speaker 1: different communities, and you know, and the Swasaka T shirt,
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Speaker 1: and the conversation around Kanye West at the time was
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Speaker 1: not only about what he is doing right and and
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Speaker 1: Kanye West doesn't have to rest but we y'all know
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Speaker 1: Kanye was you can't control them. But I mentioned him
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Speaker 1: and I mentioned those moments because I remember the conversation
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Speaker 1: around or for the Jewish communities was about the hate
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Speaker 1: that would happen after that moment, right, So there were
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Speaker 1: then reports about you know, random you know, Jewish hate
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Speaker 1: movements happening and the uprising of them, and Sina try
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Speaker 1: signage of being shown different places following Kanye was his moment,
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Speaker 1: and everything was pointed back to the moments where he
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Speaker 1: chose you know, wrongfully too. I don't agree with anything
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Speaker 1: Kanye was did or said, you know, against any community,
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Speaker 1: but everything pointed back to those moments where these things
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Speaker 1: were put on a platform, regardless if you agree with
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Speaker 1: them or not, regardless if he was mentally in his
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Speaker 1: right mind or not. These things were platformed through music,
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Speaker 1: through fashion, through media covering it, and the conversation was
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Speaker 1: about how can we protec you know, this group of
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Speaker 1: people because this will spark hate. I read the BAFTA
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Speaker 1: apology that they put up where they apologize to you know,
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Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan and Delver Lindo, you know, everyone that
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Speaker 1: was you know that had to endure this. They talked
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Speaker 1: a bit about, you know, his type of turrets and
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Speaker 1: how you know, basically what he is saying is not
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Speaker 1: reflective of how he actually feels. And I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: you can argue that all day, and that's what's happening
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Speaker 1: right now, but no one has said, like, no one
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Speaker 1: in BAFTA, no one from any official committee has said,
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Speaker 1: well what about the hate that this will spark moving forward?
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Speaker 1: Like there has been none of that, And the fact
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Speaker 1: that there is a huge platform that could have been
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Speaker 1: responsible enough to remove it they removed other things like
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Speaker 1: what about that that that didn't happen. So I'm on
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Speaker 1: this boat and I'm looking around at all these black women,
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Speaker 1: generations of black women, little girls, you know, women my age,
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Speaker 1: college students, recent college graduates, and we're and not black
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Speaker 1: women women to color, like we all there and we
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Speaker 1: vibing and we having such a good time.
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Speaker 2: And then I'm looking at the news and I'm like, dang.
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Speaker 1: Like I hate the fact that black and empathy and
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Speaker 1: bullshit always have to live in the same sentence, Like
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Speaker 1: why do we always have to be empathetic? Like even
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Speaker 1: in Bapta's apology and I'm gonna pull it up now,
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Speaker 1: at the end of the statement, they say, we take
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Speaker 1: full responsibility for putting our guests in a very difficult situation,
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Speaker 1: and we apologize to all. We will learn from this
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Speaker 1: and keep inclusion at the core of all that we do,
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Speaker 1: maintaining our belief in film and storytelling as a critical
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Speaker 1: conduit for compassion and empathy. Now. They also when they
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Speaker 1: talk about Michael B. Jordan and del Roy Lindo, they
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Speaker 1: say early in the ceremony, a loud tick in the
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Speaker 1: form of a profoundly offensive turn was heard by many
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Speaker 1: people in the room. Be Jordan and Del Roylando were
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Speaker 1: on stage at the time, and we apologize unreservedly to
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Speaker 1: them and to all those impacted. We would like to
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Speaker 1: think Michael be Jordan and delroy for their incredible dignity,
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Speaker 1: dignity and professionalism. Oh like, and I get it. I
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Speaker 1: mean they're trying to make it right, right, right, they're
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Speaker 1: trying to make it right right, they're apologizing, and they're
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Speaker 1: doing all the things. The press release is here, But
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Speaker 1: it pissed me off that they in this mention they're
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Speaker 1: incredible dignity and professionalism because who would be expected to
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Speaker 1: remain professional and have dignity in a moment like that?
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Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I was thinking too, like, all right,
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Speaker 1: if in that moment Del Rolando or Michael Jordan have
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Speaker 1: responded in any way, I mean they didn't even It's
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Speaker 1: like they knew and I know, like we on the podcast,
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Speaker 1: here are the latest with Along the Roads. So we've
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Speaker 1: talked about as like black women, like all of my
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Speaker 1: black women listeners, I always talk to you you guys directly,
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Speaker 1: even without knowing it, because there are little things that
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Speaker 1: we do like the clocket and all the things and
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Speaker 1: mm hmm, like like girl, like I could just say girl,
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Speaker 1: and you know what's about to come next?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: We have this like these these things, the body language,
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Speaker 1: the words that we use that you just know.
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Speaker 2: When I looked at Michael B.
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Speaker 1: Jordan and Del Rolando in that video and I saw
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Speaker 1: their body and I saw how they tightened up in
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Speaker 1: that moment, I'm like, they know they can't even blink
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Speaker 1: the wrong way right now, literally, because then the story
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Speaker 1: becomes about their reaction and not about what was done.
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Speaker 1: So it takes them from being a victim of a
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Speaker 1: moment they should have not had to endure to anything
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Speaker 1: else that people would have wanted to put on them depending.
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Speaker 2: On how they reacted. And I was so happy that.
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Speaker 1: They handled it the way that they did, only because
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Speaker 1: I'm like the world needs to respond for them. But
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Speaker 1: I was so it broke my heart that they had
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Speaker 1: to do that. And Del Rolando gave a statement to
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Speaker 1: a Vanity Fair and he told talked about you know
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Speaker 1: how after the Awards show, he just wishes someone from
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Speaker 1: the bath door, like you know organization had come and
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Speaker 1: talked to them about what had just happened, and that
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Speaker 1: I know of that has not still happened yet. I
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Speaker 1: did reach out to Bathta, and I plan to reach
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Speaker 1: out to Michael B. Jordan and Devery Lindo's teams to
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Speaker 1: see if there's any update there, because I can't imagine
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Speaker 1: they haven't reached out at this at this point. If
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Speaker 1: they haven't, someone over there is just very culturally incompetent
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Speaker 1: and just not a good human being. Dever Lindo said
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Speaker 1: to Vanity Fair about the moment, we were just doing
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Speaker 1: what we knew we had to do, and we always
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Speaker 1: are just doing what we gotta do, like we always are,
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Speaker 1: and that's never Honestly, I don't have hope that that
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Speaker 1: will ever change, you know, And I can't speak for
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Speaker 1: anyone else or any other racist. I've always just only
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Speaker 1: been a black woman. But it's always, well, you gotta
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Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. It's always that, and it's
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Speaker 1: frustrating because I look around and I think about, you know,
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Speaker 1: everything I experienced on this cruise.
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Speaker 2: I mean Keisha Cole and her.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful ability to sing and all the support she had
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Speaker 1: in the room, Monica and just her storytelling her how
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Speaker 1: she's been a part of our lives, telling these stories.
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Speaker 2: Literally, my whole life. I'm thirty four years old.
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Speaker 1: S WV went completely acapella y'all on that stage mid
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Speaker 1: c because their sound wasn't what they needed it to be,
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Speaker 1: and delivered motivational speeches. The conversation I had with Christa
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Speaker 1: Renee on Keep It Positive, Sweetie, not only did I
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Speaker 1: feel like everybody in the room got to like know
14:29
Speaker 1: me a bit because you know, like breakfast club, like
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting with like four other people and they might
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Speaker 1: not listen to my podcast, but I feel like I
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Speaker 1: got to like see myself differently after that conversation, like
14:41
Speaker 1: completely differently. Like it was just like, oh my god,
14:47
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound so cliche, but it was.
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Speaker 1: There was such an awakening. There were so many awakening
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Speaker 1: moments for me this weekend where I felt like I
14:55
Speaker 1: don't have to just be and if I do choose
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Speaker 1: to just be, I choose to exist, not just be,
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Speaker 1: not get along to get along. And then you do
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Speaker 1: you see something like this to two very established actors,
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Speaker 1: very successful men who were leading the charge and storytelling
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Speaker 1: and television, and it's like.
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Speaker 2: Dang, like do we ever really get forward? Like is
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Speaker 2: that a thing?
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Speaker 1: It was just crazy to me the irony, And I've
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Speaker 1: been thinking about that all all yesterday when I was
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Speaker 1: preparing for the podcast today and the show yesterday, Like
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Speaker 1: all yesterday, I was thinking the irony of you have
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Speaker 1: all of us black one and I mean it was
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Speaker 1: like every you had, Milonald d Rouge, you had, I
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Speaker 1: saw bat some one, pretty v Hebda Lowry at well
15:43
Speaker 1: she did the cruise. Actually, Christopher from HBCU Week, Scotti
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Speaker 1: be mas Cilvio Bell did their podcast as well too,
15:50
Speaker 1: shout out to my girls. There was just so much
15:53
Speaker 1: going on on the podcast, I mean on the boat
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Speaker 1: and so many women successful suits like you know, bomb
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Speaker 1: fire women, right, and all of this is happening, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, at the same time in the world, somebody
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Speaker 1: somewhere who has worked their asses off to have respect
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Speaker 1: is being disrespected because they look like you and me,
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Speaker 1: and that is insane. So, I mean, I hope that
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Speaker 1: there will be more from BAFTA on what else they
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Speaker 1: have done to I mean, you can't make up for
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Speaker 1: something like this, but I do think that there's a
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Speaker 1: right course of correction, and I don't think that they've
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Speaker 1: done everything, in my opinion, that they could have done
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Speaker 1: for these to be two very established, world renowned artists
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Speaker 1: actors who are leading the charge on not just black storytelling,
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Speaker 1: but storytelling in general. Some of the biggest celebrities in
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Speaker 1: the world just sat and got called the worst racial
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Speaker 1: slur you could ever call them to their face, and
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Speaker 1: you broadcasted it and all they got was I love
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Speaker 1: your professionalism and your dignity. We are sorry, and from
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Speaker 1: what del Orlando says, it didn't even that wasn't even
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Speaker 1: said directly to them. So we'll keep you guys posted
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Speaker 1: as things update there. Yeah, I want I want to
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Speaker 1: get in now to just you know what we didn't
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Speaker 1: get to play from the crew some of the conversations, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know the live performances. We got Keisha Cole on
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Speaker 1: stage tearing it down Monica, Baby, Monica gonna take you
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Speaker 1: to Atlanta with her and make you I'm always down
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Speaker 1: to go kick down the door smack of chick because
17:43
Speaker 1: Monica says so, and I gave that up a long
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Speaker 1: time ago. But when Monica get on stage and see
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Speaker 1: say that part, it'd be like, all right, girl, where's
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Speaker 1: she out what you need? Because stop playing with Monica
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Speaker 1: your s w V on stage. I definitely want to
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Speaker 1: do the part where they are just completely a cappella.
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Speaker 3: My real.
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Speaker 1: We thought on my mind, don't care he.
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Speaker 3: S here Hi, So.
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Speaker 1: They sounded amazing. Shout out to s w V. This
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Speaker 1: has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren Rosa.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lauren Rosa, and I tell you guys
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Speaker 1: every single episode, and I really do mean it. I
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Speaker 1: love seeing y'all in person. I love talking to you
18:55
Speaker 1: guys here. And I tell you whether we in person
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Speaker 1: and we outside jump with double Dutch or rewrite here
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Speaker 1: on the podcast that y'all could be anywhere with anybody
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Speaker 1: talking about all of the things, and the fact that
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Speaker 1: you guys choose to be here with me every episode.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much. It has literally changed my
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Speaker 1: life period. So I'll see you guys in my next episode.
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Speaker 1: I'm about to go catch just Flight and drink some
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Speaker 1: tea because that cruise ate my voice up.
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Speaker 2: Talk to y'all later.