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  and terrible, but as you know and as you hear from my Guardians at
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  sent to the aka's, we are doing the Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three
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  All Star Review. And as you can see if you are watching us right
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  If you're watching us, you've seen my smiling face and the rest of these
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  melanated faces here because we have gathered some of the best in the business to
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  talk about Guardians. First up, we got my man emn Please let them
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  know who you are and introduce yourself. Thank you so much. Yes,
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  Emmanuel Noise at aka emn aka the King of Wakanda a k a j juh
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  ju okay ju ju nice nice, and below him, if you're watching at
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  least on my screen right now, we have the fantastic Frankie. Please,
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  you know, tell them about yourself. Yeah, you stole like two of
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  my Aka Yeshi Revolutionary Hi Revolutionary. You know you got that's what's up everywhere.
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  That's your girlfriend's TASTI Frankie aka the Fanboy Fighters of the Galaxy aka Facts,
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  I am a Destroyer, I guess aka the Second Hi Revolution. It
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  was an easy when I had to grab ye and I and the Eye and
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  I I am too, I'll say, I am her. Okay, Okay,
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  there you go, there you go, there you go. And then
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  below we have the one and only Blurred Girl. Yeah, you took a
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  lot of mine too, but I'm trying to work my way through them.
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  Um, what's up, y'all? I'm Caramel aka the Blurred Girl aka Deep
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  Space Fine aka Full Metal Battlefist AKA I Am the Root aka aka This is
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  the Bay aka the Fly Revolutionary. Okay, like that, like that.
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  And last, but not least, plotting away, I know he is is
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  the one Rodamus Prime oh Man. First of all, going last, it
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  means I'm trying not to repeat anybody before me, so it's kind of a
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  lot of pressure. But all right. My name is Rod aka. I
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  do a podcast called the Blackout Tests. I call it Roderick and Shorty.
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  Some of y'all gotta stop being the Cascade because y'all scaring the whole Corga is
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  the fade Runner twentyty nine, Aaron Jagomus to the Third Eye, Evolutionary and
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  Rod gets wrecks. No Coon over here. So happy to be back on
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  a spaceship. I was waiting for the no Coon win. All right,
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  Yes, welcome. As you can tell, we are talking about Guardians of
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  the Galaxy Volume three. This will be a pretty much spoiler field review.
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  If you haven't seen it yet, you might want to. We're not gonna
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  get too too deep, though, but you know we're going to talk about
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  it. We've all seen it. I've now seen it twice. I think
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  a few of the other panelists have also seen it more than once. Overall
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  feelings, I'll just say right off the top, it is after seeing it
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  twice, especially, it is now one of my I think the Guardians trilogy
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  is now up there with Captain America's trilogy for being the best in the MCU,
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  and this third one is a fine finish to this trilogy. It's a
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  great film. I have a few small knitpicks with it, but overall,
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  it's just it's a really good ass movie. Anyone else, Yeah, I
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  agree. I think it was around It trilogy to your point. I think
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  the only trilogy that did justice to that level is the Captain America trilogy.
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  I was shocked in a good way at how serious the movie was while still
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  making me laugh, and I thought it was great the first time we all
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  got to see it in Imax, and it was definitely an Imax movie,
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  and it was a space movie that wasn't afraid of color, wasn't afraid of
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  like testing different things, and it reminded me a lot of like Rick and
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  Morty with like the fleshy type tech with like I loved it. I love
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  the creativity all through it, and I felt I felt proud as a DC
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  fan watching all these now DC workers give y'all such a good last hurrah.
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  Before they did, I was just like, yeah, it felt good.
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  It felt good. I was like, look at my baby, he's about
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  to cook up All Stars Superman on this level. I can't wait. Definitely
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  made me excited for James Gunn. So don't even say, ain't hoping pray
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  that. I mean, you know it's gonna be fired man, But I
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  don't think he's doing an All Star but that you know that would be a
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  dream. But yeah, so yeah, it definitely made me excited for James
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  Gunn taking over DC. Like it was like cool like between us and that
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  Blue Beetle trailer, it was like, yeah, I'm excited for DC movies
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  again. And I didn't know that was possible just a few years ago.
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  I've been trying to tell y'all, man, we're talking about DC when this
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  is a Marvel movie. Why anyway? So why don't we act like it's
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  not tied? And within the time these two together is James Gunn? Who
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  I think job? I think James Gunn did an amazing job. Don't get
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  me wrong. I think did an incredible job I did. I do think
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  it's the best of the three movies. I definitely think it rounded everything else,
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  did a very good good job of um pulling from actually multiple places including
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  Disney Plus. Had a little bit of nods to the Group series, a
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  little bit of nods to the Christmas Special. There are things that came out
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  that And I do think that anybody who went to see this movie and got
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  confused probably hasn't seen like the previous movies or the Disney Plus stuff. Because
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  I had I had a few people ask me some questions. I'm like,
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  did you use the Christmas special? And if you didn't, there were some
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  Easter eggs in there for you as well. Effects amazing. The effects were
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  so good in this movie. I was stunned that this is the same studio
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  that did Ant Man because those effects were not that good, That's what I'm
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  saying. So it was and maybe it is a control thing. Maybe it's
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  possible for a gun when he worked, or maybe because it was his last
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  raw. I don't know, but he might have had complete control over everything,
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  whereas I think sometimes with some of the other Marvel movies the directors have
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  to answer to a bunch of different people. This felt cohesive from not just
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  effects but color execution from beginning to end. And that's good storytelling, you
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  know. Uh. I like Ben liked it Ben at the second time.
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  Um, And the music was also amazing. But we'll get into some other
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  stuff that I like after, So I'll let y'all cook on that one,
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  because that's so. I was actually gonna say that too. Like one of
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  the misses for me was the music, but for a different reason, and
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  it might be different reasons, and Ben would say, but um, I
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  agree with most of the sentiments here. I thought this was a wonderful ending
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  for a trilogy, and I think that's what puts it in the conversation as
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  one of not the best trilogy in the MCU, because we finally got something
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  consistent, you know, we have something that like has a beginning, middle,
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  and an end. It's the same voice, the same tone. I've
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  said even in my review, this is the James gunniest you know, movie
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  that he's ever made. It's everything that if you've seen his work the same
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  way you can identify Tarantino like you can identify James Gunn in this movie.
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  He cares about the characters, sometimes even to a fault, but you can
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  never deny the fact that every character matters, all the emotions. You know,
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  you can feel him. And I mean again like this is what you
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  go to the movies for. You want to be able to feel for the
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  characters. And I mean he definitely did that with Rocket Story, you know.
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  And I do have some nitpicks, but overall, great movie, good
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  sign for the MCU UM at least for now, and you know, post
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  pandemic era. But yeah, and this is giving me confidence for his future
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  in the DC you as well. Yeah, it felt like a return to
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  form from Marvel movies to me, like it's been a minute since a movie
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  really made me feel like this and completely immersed me in the experience. Um,
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  everyone's talking about this like Marvel the studio, But I'm like, maybe
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  Peyton read not that great at CGI. I don't know, like like it
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  could be him, you know what I'm saying. They asked him to do
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  a lot, considering ant Man started from a grounded reality, earth based thing
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  to like create your own system and universe. Like that's a lot to ask
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  people. Um, But also like it was so funny and still sad,
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  Like it still made me cry, it still had a lot of heart.
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  Um, the fact that they were able to do this film and not kill
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  off any main characters. Because I was seeing the trailers, I was like,
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  yeah, they I've been reading these articles and these interviews. These people
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  want out of these roles. They fitting to die. We're gonna be crying.
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  But like the new Rocket was gonna catch it. I just knew it
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  for real. Like when I saw him get hurt so early, I was
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  like, it's not him. Um, because he got hurt so early in
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  the movie. I was like that don't make sense. I'm with you,
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  But then it felt Josh weed and s when the whole like he's we brought
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  him back. Oh wait a minute, does one more thing we didn't think
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  of? I said, Oh, don't do this, don't do this,
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  James. The only time I was sweating for a rocket was when they was
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  like fighting over his body. Yeah, doll around that ship. I was
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  had had no laying down. They had me worried about rocket until like the
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  last frame because I like there's a point at the end where he's like I
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  got to fight this man to say these little bay Roc coups. I said,
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  Oh, and that's how he gonna die, because it's his arc has
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  come full circle. Like James is a beast dog. He really had me
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  like same thing with Peacemaker, Like, dude, really be having me like
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  laughing at the silliness of these characters in this world. And then he'll just
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  have like gravertize and shout out to Bradley Cooper, who you know with that
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  face, it's still just being a voice actor and act actually acting, not
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  showing up and just being a voice and sounding like Bradley Cooper. And he's
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  done it. For several years at this point, and I'm extremely impressed with
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  that performance. Definitely one of the best Zoes All Donna performances I've ever saw.
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  She hasn't Yeah, she hasn't been as good as makeup since Nina's Amme
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  movie. Oh like she disappeared into the role. So I was very impressed
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  with her. Um And I can't not start by just giving props to or
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  can't end this without giving props to the brother that played the high evolutionary got
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  damn, that's a village. That's what I want from my villains. The
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  other DC actor, he was good. I didn't James had the guts to
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  kill off Rocket though. I mean because like a lot of these characters,
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  like he'll kill off side characters, right, but like the main character,
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  he identifies with that character. I mean, this is he admits this stuff,
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  right, he identifies with Rocket. Rocket stories kind of like his story
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  in a sense. He ain't gonna kill them off. Dog. You know,
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  if you ever left a job, it's like, that's y'all mess,
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  you know. I remember I quit McDonald's in the middle of a shift one
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  time, and I walked out and got in my car, and it was
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  a mess all in the front lobbya that McDonald's. I didn't clear carre and
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  I didn't clean it up because it's not my job no more. I'm going
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  back to school. And I feel like James could have hit us with like
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  yo U, especially knowing like how you feel about the Batista and how Zoe
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  was doing the interviews. He could have easily just been like, you know
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  what, dog, let me help. Coming with me was done. Honestly,
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  he should have been done. That was the only person that I said
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  he should have said. When they brought him back, I was pissed.
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  I was like no. And then in the very end, the post post
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  credit scene when they said you will see star Lord again, every y'all remember
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  everybody our first the first time we saw it, everything theater was like no,
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  No, I didn't. I didn't know that. I've never been up
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  to star Lord Hayter Camp. I've never under no, No, it's not
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  a star Lord Hayter Camp. I'm not even talking about that, even though
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  I personally I am not a fan of the actor, but that's not what
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  this is about. I see his purpose in everything in Guardians, and it
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  was and he's played an incredible role, and he's created a really good character.
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  But the way he had him out there floating in space no oxygen,
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  freezing with his eyes going to two different directions to go right, I thought
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  that, and then and then having um Um Warlock, who under used but
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  we'll get there bring him in. It would have been like a nice handoff.
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  But instead it's like, oh, that was really cool. I'm like,
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  no, you should yeah, but also I'm good for that. I
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  wouldn't wanted that movie to end with the death of Peter Quill like that would
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  have been you know, that's just unnecessary sadness to the end of this film,
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  especially after his realization and the fact that he grew the fact that he
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  finally realized Joe I can't and that that would have like nullified that scene with
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  Gomra, which I like, if y'all, if if they had given Zoe,
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  I mean they've given her like maybe twenty seconds more, two more lines,
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  that ship would have been up there, you know, like with where
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  I mean, not up there with Angela, but she would have started pushing
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  for that best supporting Antra' role because she eats in that. I thought,
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  yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying if they've given her a little
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  more time, you could have the nods for the start coming in, you
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  know, because just just she has enough time to get a best supporting natural,
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  you know. And just so just so I'm clear, the scene you're
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  talking about is the scene where she hits him and she's like, what am
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  I doing? Okay, no, because that was my scene to him.
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  But I also love the fact that gave this this universe agency like why because
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  he was getting very creepy, like Okay, you don't love me now,
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  but you could, and it's like, yeah, now you're getting and then
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  and they all they all were checking him on that. But before we go
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  into this, I did have a question because Rod brought it up earlier as
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  well, about how like this is one of the best movies we've seen in
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  a while, and I agree, And I wonder if a piece of that
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  is maybe the guardrails that come went Marvel and stuff like that, because this
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  is another movie where the main characters are assist white Man um that this is
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  what they know how to do. Even though Rocket is an animal, it's
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  Bradley Cooper, you know what I'm saying, Like, and so you know
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  they can hit so they can handle animals and aliens back. Okay. We've
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  also like the other thing is you've had you know, Ryan Cooler having a
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  deal before he had to deal with so it ain't like he had to make
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  the happy film that everybody can come out of, like, hey, you
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  know, he wasn't making that film, So like I know, I'm besides
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  that. You had, like you said, you have Peyton Reid, who
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  you know, did serviceable ship with aunt Man. But when you hand them
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  some shit like a Man three, it's like, you know, yeah,
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  I was hoping because they gave him aunt Man three, but seeing the track
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  record, you know, it was like I shouldn't have some of the you
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  know, coke. It kind of bounces out because because there's so many cists
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  white dudes that are the main characters, the bad ones be having them too,
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  Like yeah, like it's too many for it to be like shit.
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  A matter of fact, if they could only hit on every cyst, like
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  they'd be batting like ninety some percent. So it's like clearly, clearly it's
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  James johnn James John has done this straight through, you know. And also
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  I do want to shout out in Nicole Perman Perlman, who was the screenwriter
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  co screenwriter on the first one and really helped establish it, and she does
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  not get the credit she deserves for establishing and making these characters who they are
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  today because after that James John, it's like, you know, everything's interdirecting
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  by James John, you know, and that's the end of story. And
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  you know, so shout out to Nicole Perlman because as an achievement the third
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  this being the trilogy, the third one. I don't know how y'all felt,
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  but when they announced the first Guardians of the Galaxy, I remember being
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  like, Okay, all right, Marvel, calm down. I don't think
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  I don't think the world is ready for this, because they had up until
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  then it had been like one name heroes that we all know, and they
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  like, yeah, the talking raccoon, talking tree that can only say I'm
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  grew. And it's like Steph Curry heat checked from the half court line level
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  of shot, were you like, if y'all hit this, then there's really
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  nothing. No. I can never tell y'all. And to think those characters
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  have arked out this far into the future where we're in the third one and
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  all like, this is amazing. We were crying at a CGI raccoon sitting
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  on people's laps and stuff. That's a that's amazing and the power of what
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  like good cinema can do so props it down. I also knew, like
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  I was one of I wasn't um I was unsure about Guardians, but I
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  wasn't unsure about James John because he had this movie Slither that is one of
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  my favorite tracks, and Slither is sci fi horror and comedy, so I
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  knew in black and dark comedy and some of the most brutal shit where like
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  one of my favorite scenes is like a dude, it's like, you know,
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  go on without me because he's injured, and the dude shoots Him's like
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  okay, you know, it keeps moving. And so I was like when
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  they announced him and knowing I think it's an Abnett who wrote The Guardians the
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  modern version of it, Dan Abnett, and brought all these characters together and
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  all that. So I was pretty sure or you know, because James I
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  just I think the first announcing before you even heard who was attached to it.
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  Well, I remember thinking the same thing because because Agents of Shield was
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  out Agents of Shield every week was known for like going and digging in the
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  crates and pulling out a character that it was only used like two or three
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  times. So I'm like, oh, they're gonna try and do this.
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  When with the first Guardians movie, I remember thinking they're gonna try and do
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  Agent of Shield. Like a lot of us who wear comics know these characters,
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  but most people are like who. So I thought that was but again,
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  did it, did it well, made it his own And this movie
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  really ended in arc very well. And I agree with what everybody was saying
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  about Zoe. For a actress that was paid the least of all these all
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  her co stars, she did an amazing job. Oh my goodness. Still,
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  wow, that's crazy. That's kind of crazy. Manager would not be
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  in this movie. Here's the thing. I don't know when that extended to
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  this movie, but definitely before this movie, she was the least paid out
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  of all of the say it hasn't her rap gone up? Ye argue for
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  you baby. I was like fire her team at this boy, he must
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  have got to pay increase by now, because I'm sure I feel like I
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  feel like Scar Joe. Scar Joe made sure that that wasn't happening to no
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  more women in the universe because she made She was like, uh so,
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  I hope that. I hope that all the ladies of the Marvel universe are
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  getting get star Joe got that indeterminate bad boy. It's like, you don't
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  even know what type of money it is. It's just like she lokey the
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  reason why er perlo ain't got a job. She was like, they like
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  me, they like you, all right. Something else that I wanted to
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  talk about could be mentioned more, but like, you know, my other
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  favorite, and you know my pretty much been my favorite since day one,
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  is Nebula, And I mean this is just you know, another example like
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  when she showed up when she goes and grabs a vest and comes up like
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  you know, she's out of some anime with the arm and you know,
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  goes to work on Warlock. I was in heaven. I just think Karen
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  does the character so well and her journey, And that was the thing.
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  It's all the Guardians have such distinct arcs throughout this movie and throughout like even
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  some of the like because a lot of people don't relate to and I understand
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  why. It's who has some issues and it definitely has you know, the
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  James Gunn the terrible side of it, you know, where it's like his
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  dad's kind of a rapist and kind of you know, it's like there's a
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  lot of weirdness going on in that right. But I think it even corrected
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  that because I didn't realize how he used drags in the second one. I
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  felt like they make dracts to be too much of an idiot. Yeah,
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  and it's just like they played them for jokes, and I felt like they
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  somewhat redeemed that in this one by giving him this arc and just even the
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  little touches. How it begins with him streaming on Mantis like only in idiot
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  dances, and then at the end of it, he's breaking into a full
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  dance. Like Rob was saying, like it was that shit. By that
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  moment when Rouge started dancing, I'm ball and dark. I was losing it.
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  The second time I saw it, like straight up losing it. I
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  felt like they were changing drags into instead of him being dumb, he was
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  like incapable of certain complex thoughts. Yeah, you know what I mean,
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  Where it was like it's not that he's dumb, it's just like this is
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  deep stut Like he was like, I don't know that. I didn't know
• 23:27
  you were capable of an analogy. And I was like, Okay, this
• 23:33
  is the stuff I want to hear. Not that he's just like someone just
• 23:37
  being vapid or like just making mistakes. It was like, oh, maybe
• 23:41
  he's incapable of actually making these decisions or deciphering what's right or what's wrong,
• 23:47
  because in the first film he couldn't understand, Like he just couldn't. He
• 23:49
  couldn't do figurative, dn't get metaphors, he didn't get stuff like that.
• 23:56
  And that was cool to me. The way he kind like came on the
• 24:00
  scene. He was just focused. He was like you were stands. I
• 24:03
  want the smoke. That's it. They had time for nothing else. And
• 24:07
  that's Hey, that makes sense because I always read it them as a D
• 24:12
  and D group and so as a barbarian? Why is he dying? Right?
• 24:17
  You know what I mean? And to your point in the second movie,
• 24:19
  I was like, is he a barbarian or is he just And they
• 24:22
  didn't even yeah back then, like he was a special to like show like,
• 24:32
  yeah, he was putting in the work to Adam, Yeah he was.
• 24:34
  He was putting in at work like he got he got worked. But
• 24:37
  like I was like, that was a great way to me because they scaled
• 24:41
  Drags and then they also scaled um Adam at the same time because they showed
• 24:48
  like Adam is having a really hard is just fucking up everybody, and then
• 24:52
  like Drags came in and was giving him problems for a very long time.
• 24:56
  I was like, all right, this is a strong man. I'm seeing
• 24:59
  this or like him opening up the doors to be I can't believe you didn't
• 25:03
  like the soundtrack the BC Boy you know, like, Okay, well we'll
• 25:07
  get to that. I get it. You know, some people have only
• 25:10
  heard one BC Boys song. We all like, it's not that, but
• 25:15
  it's like why popular songs are popular for the reason. Right, we're gonna
• 25:22
  go the Okay, you're telling me that song go there. Okay, I'm
• 25:29
  telling you that joint don't rock. And I'm also okay and all right,
• 25:32
  wait wait we're gonna go there. We're gonna go there, right, all
• 25:33
  right, then let me let me get this okay. Over three movies,
• 25:36
  James John has now done eighties, nineties, and two thousands, and he
• 25:40
  has had one hip hop song by one white group and the most off their
• 25:45
  first album, like their most obvious choice song. Right now, you're saying
• 25:49
  the eighties, nineties, and two thousands, because it's done from the perspective
• 25:52
  a white man. I'll give you that. Yeah, it's also wait,
• 25:56
  let me let me finish, let me finish, please, all right,
• 25:59
  let me finished? Right, it's done from his perspective, So that's him.
• 26:03
  But when you have something that represents these decades where hip hop became the
• 26:07
  dominant form of music, you gotta give it a little something. And the
• 26:11
  difference between someone's like a James Dunn and someone like a Quentin Tarantino. When
• 26:15
  it comes to music and film, it's print and Tarantino will take film songs
• 26:18
  that are much more obscure and then make them popular, even in something like
• 26:23
  Stranger Themes, which takes Karen Bush right, a random eighties song, not
• 26:30
  the most obvious one, Kate Bush, see how much I know, and
• 26:33
  then makes it huge. Right, it doesn't have to be the obvious choice.
• 26:38
  And BC Boys, going back to them, you got licensed to ill
• 26:44
  straight classic all the way through every song on there you could have chosen,
• 26:48
  So why that one? Why is it that the only way let me now,
• 26:52
  then I'll be done with this. Four BC Boys songs, Fight for
• 26:56
  Your Right, No Sleep Till Brooklyn, Sabotage, Intergalactic only ones ever used
• 27:04
  in philm I'm done, Okay, I think to to one. To Carol's
• 27:12
  point, I was not expecting hip hop from James Gunn that was number one,
• 27:19
  right. I wasn't expecting. I was maybe the Fresh Friends. I
• 27:25
  wouldn't heard that. Michael, Okay, you know, but we were dominant.
• 27:32
  Look, I don't think things done. Even if they were dominant,
• 27:34
  doesn't mean that that was his experience. And this is so I think.
• 27:40
  But he's playing here's playlist. But then to that point, um, the
• 27:45
  music fit. I get there may be better choices, but to me,
• 27:51
  the music fit. Not everybody, but not everybody is big right into music
• 27:59
  in that way. For me, Florence's Dog Days got me. I was
• 28:02
  like, you know what, I fu with Florence's Machine. I love her
• 28:04
  work ethic. I think her music is incredible. I was watching it and
• 28:08
  yo, y'all laughing. I heard her sing take care, I was weeping
• 28:11
  once uh the show behind her. I just in that way, I was
• 28:18
  like, there was not one song that they played. Maybe maybe I'm not
• 28:22
  a big Beastie Boys U snob, so I didn't care which Basty Boys song
• 28:26
  they played. I thought no Sleep to Brooklyn. I immediately thought of the
• 28:30
  Warriors, and I was like, oh, they about to travel through a
• 28:33
  long like and started fighting people all the way up to the high Evolutionary.
• 28:38
  That's what I thought about. Okay, So none of that worked for me.
• 28:42
  None of that worked. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of in
• 28:45
  a mix with both for y'all right. I actually thought the Beastie Boys selection
• 28:49
  worked perfectly for that scene. It was yo, there was turning up,
• 28:53
  things was good going down. I was cool with that. When they played
• 28:56
  Earth, Winn and Fire, yeah, I was like why, like what
• 29:00
  and I love love, I love the song reasons, it just did not
• 29:04
  fit for that scene. Now, when Rocket was playing his little song and
• 29:07
  he was kind of jamming and everything, I was like, Okay, that's
• 29:11
  cool. Listen. I don't have to be a fan of the music.
• 29:14
  As long as the tone and the you know, the pacing, if it
• 29:17
  fits and it conveys whatever the scene is trying to communicate, I can rock
• 29:21
  with that. Jam Creep Creep, the first one I'm just saying some of
• 29:27
  the songs just didn't fit with like what was actually happening on screen. And
• 29:32
  I was just like, it just felt like you hit random on your playlist.
• 29:36
  No, but I say of it, but all of the movies said
• 29:38
  that. That's what I'm saying. It was on brand on It was totally
• 29:42
  on brand for the galaxy. He's got all of the music comes from close
• 29:48
  to the Walkman when he was a kid. He's no concept of anything being
• 29:52
  connected to anything we know. This is James Gunns High School, like wet
• 29:57
  dream over all of these songs. So I've never I've never thought I thought
• 30:02
  the point was that they weren't supposed to fit. I thought that was the
• 30:06
  point because the first movie, the first volume, every song hit. It
• 30:12
  might have done better than this, but I've always thought that there's something like
• 30:17
  okay, And then the way they bring them in and out as always,
• 30:19
  that was actually bothering me more in this movie than the other movie. Definitely,
• 30:23
  how they how they yet like I'm oh, I'm now pressing play on
• 30:27
  something. I'm gonna Yeah. It felt like it was he was trying to
• 30:30
  force it. I know that feature like when they would take off their headphones
• 30:34
  and then the music would fade away or like it reminded me a Baby Driver.
• 30:38
  I love that. Okay, and let me make this very quick.
• 30:45
  I think the intro A Baby Driver is perfection. After that, I think
• 30:49
  it falls apart. Like I think he's never on beat. I think that
• 30:52
  dude can't fucking dance, and I think it's a movie where people like that's
• 30:56
  the thing. It's I don't think. I don't want to just say white
• 31:00
  people because it's not all them. But sometimes when it comes to the music
• 31:03
  and how it relates to film and movement, it's not right because I'm used
• 31:07
  to things that move on feet, you know. And the intro Baby Drivers
• 31:11
  on Feat. After that it starts clapping on the one in three don't be
• 31:18
  heae one, you know, like James Brown, you know, et cetera.
• 31:27
  Like it's how you know, and that's the thing, like you like,
• 31:30
  that's why, Like I even kind of the earth on the final it
• 31:34
  is kind of cool because it's like, you know, silly, and it
• 31:37
  was like they're floating and the time, you know, so that was kind
• 31:41
  of cute. But at the same time, overall, know, the music
• 31:45
  was one of my that was one of the problems for me. Um.
• 31:48
  I enjoyed the music. I thought it was dope. Um. I think
• 31:52
  it's like his mom is the one that gave him the cassette and all that
• 31:56
  stuff. So my assumptions moms just racist and she didn't a lot of black
• 32:00
  people's music. They were they were in Mississippi or something. Right, Yeah,
• 32:04
  it's fine. She's dead now, there's nothing for us to be mad
• 32:07
  about. So dead now, let's just move it. Let's just move on.
• 32:09
  Dog. I really liked that mom, and now I'm looking at her.
• 32:15
  Now, we don't. We don't need Tarantino involved with this because Stalar
• 32:19
  would have definitely called the high evolutionary in words, So we don't. I
• 32:23
  don't. I don't read that in the Marvel movie. I would have liked,
• 32:28
  Yeah, I would have liked if what if the high evolutionary called them
• 32:30
  a bunch of and you know, that would have been even better. Yeah,
• 32:34
  But then he would have made the high evolutionary white, because Tarantino wouldn't
• 32:37
  have had the black person said, Um, I have so many, so
• 32:42
  many we'll get there. Also, uh, visuals, because loting with the
• 32:49
  music is what made a lot of scenes from me because when it is like
• 32:53
  you could tell some of it was like I'll need a trippy song right now,
• 32:57
  or like you know, even the visual like when they go into an
• 33:00
  Orago color and they all have the different colors suits in addition to the funny
• 33:04
  gag that the joke we get about the colors, but it just looks fucking
• 33:07
  beautiful. Like It's why the Guardians trailers always are dope because you could take
• 33:12
  any It's like you could randomly pick any scene from this movie, close your
• 33:16
  eyes and throw it into a trailer out of context and you'd be like,
• 33:20
  I don't know what this movie is. I gotta see it, you know
• 33:22
  what I mean. So it was hitting like that. And then the last
• 33:24
  thing when you brought up Nevula, Um, I love that they've arked out
• 33:30
  those characters so much that Nebula and Gamora just talking grunts and were like they
• 33:35
  were emotional moments from me, like, yeah, it's been respecting each other,
• 33:37
  yeah they know. I love that Nebula kept in contact with God more
• 33:45
  time because name what she last remembered, she was trying to connect to Nebula,
• 33:50
  because when we met, she was still trying to connect to her so
• 33:53
  for her to come to a time where like Nebula is open and vulnerable and
• 33:59
  willing to connect. I could see her being very excited. And I really
• 34:02
  like the Nebula kept out of secret because that's none of Peter's business. Yeah,
• 34:06
  and I'm sure Peter was like I'm sure she was like, please don't
• 34:09
  tell that weird guy We're still here, and she was like yeah, fucking
• 34:14
  like like, I could definitely see Nebula being a part of that. And
• 34:16
  I thought, to your point, it was one. Even though there's only
• 34:21
  been three movies, We've seen all these characters so many times, and I
• 34:24
  thought that was done so well. How they like lightly sprinkled the Guardians anytime
• 34:29
  somebody's in space and Thor and I'm like, that's what I want to see.
• 34:34
  I'm not we don't need to see a full movie to get a check
• 34:37
  in. And I also think back to Thor's why I was like he was
• 34:40
  done with movies. Why are we still the story economy that James Gunn is
• 34:45
  working with. Its crazy because there are so many characters, Like I was
• 34:50
  thinking about why this movie is so rocket heavy and if you really think about
• 34:53
  it, because we really did everybody else, like everybody else is like we
• 34:58
  know that story now we know their maturity. Yeah, like a Rockets story
• 35:06
  was like emotional and good so like and and it's and it's clearly been in
• 35:09
  the worst because from like the first time we see him, it's like he
• 35:14
  don't want to talk about his background. It's clearly full of trauma. He's
• 35:16
  having, you know, flashbacks. Why is he so gruff? You know
• 35:20
  that hit way different now, way back and watch that volume one. I
• 35:24
  love, I love. I think that's the highest form of art. Is
• 35:29
  like you can take something, put it up here later and recontextualize everything that
• 35:34
  happened before and makes me want to go back and be like, oh he
• 35:37
  was dealing with that then, well of course. And even though I read
• 35:39
  the comics and news, you know they take liberties all the time. So
• 35:44
  like the way they hit it, I was like, yo, y'all,
• 35:45
  y'all did your thing and made these characters even more even more deep for me.
• 35:52
  It's like how Clone Wars does the prequels, where like before I was
• 35:57
  the biggest hater of the prequels ever, and now after Prone Wars and everything,
• 36:00
  I'm like that shit had a lot of good ideas. You know,
• 36:04
  they weren't executed, but it had an incredible amount of ideas. You know
• 36:08
  the fact that Lucas just like half all this new ship Niggas, you know,
• 36:13
  and Niggas was like, now we went that old ship and he was
• 36:15
  like, yo, you know by my old album. He just I think
• 36:20
  George Lucas issue is the places he chooses to tell a story are not the
• 36:24
  places that are interesting to me. But then all these other people that have
• 36:29
  had their hands on it, that are like us, that are nerdy in
• 36:31
  that way, They're like, why aren't we just telling this story of this?
• 36:36
  Why this should have been with do you know who's very interesting? These
• 36:39
  Mandalorians? Apparently they are about it. We should probably tell that story.
• 36:44
  So I kind of like that now, But you're right. When the prequels
• 36:46
  came out, it felt very much like another Senate meeting George who. But
• 36:52
  now whenever I see that sentence show up, I get hype, you know
• 36:53
  what I mean, I'm like, what's that happening in the sentence? That
• 36:57
  was the case the first time? Yeah, first time, I was like,
• 37:00
  why are we watching Intergalactic c Span? I don't care about this?
• 37:04
  But now we got the clone. Now we know what it means though,
• 37:07
  right, Yeah, decisions yea go down and when they made these decisions,
• 37:14
  dog like that should give me hype now so but no, like this is
• 37:17
  like you said, it recontextrolizes lots of stuff, Like he's talked about that,
• 37:22
  James jun has talked about that, how this has always been Rocket story,
• 37:24
  Like Layla's tells him that, you know in that scene when they're in
• 37:28
  the Afterlife, was like, this has always been your story, you know,
• 37:30
  It's always been about you. And then like even the little things,
• 37:35
  It's like, this is why I think what Marvel has been missing is like
• 37:40
  it's like you said, Frank, it's like just the little touches of interconnectedness,
• 37:45
  that's all you need, Like you don't need it to be whole things.
• 37:49
  When Peter tells him captain at the end, when he calls Rocket captain,
• 37:53
  I'm like, oh fuck, you know what I mean, that's been
• 37:55
  three movies. These fucking assholes argue it over this ship, you know,
• 38:00
  and how he just you know, Captain, you'll be a better leader than
• 38:04
  I ever was. Captain, you know, I'm losing it, Like that's
• 38:08
  all it takes, and that's why they've had such a run because they've been
• 38:13
  able to do this, and I think they'll get back to that. You
• 38:15
  know. That's the other thing. Right now, they're re establishing all these
• 38:17
  characters. He's like, we're seeing it like because I saw the trailer for
• 38:21
  The Marvels. When I saw it again and on the Bits trade, I
• 38:23
  was like, oh, oh, okay, you know this movie might be
• 38:27
  something right here, because you know, we are all in love with these
• 38:29
  separate characters, and now they're coming together, so they'll have those moments where
• 38:32
  they'll be able to talk about and reference pass things. Um, let's talk
• 38:37
  about the high evolutionary let's go all right, let's go. I've got a
• 38:43
  question, all right. I loved them right, but someone else brought this
• 38:46
  up to me after the first time I saw it, and then I saw
• 38:49
  it again. Actually, I've got two, but I'm gonna get into it.
• 38:52
  The second one deals with the optopus. But first let's talk about because
• 38:54
  you know he is a black man, and then there's a black man portraying
• 38:58
  this character, how do you feel about a raccoon tearing his face off?
• 39:01
  Oh my god, I hated that so much. I was like, really,
• 39:05
  like someone else brought it up to me. Wait, ye wrong with
• 39:08
  it? What's wrong? What's wrong with it? I personally didn't really even
• 39:12
  when they brought up to me. I don't you know, I mean,
• 39:15
  do you want the doctor Umar answer? Or I've never asked for the doctor
• 39:21
  Umar answer to any question? Thank you, thank you. I prefer looking
• 39:29
  for the doctor Umar. That's why I want to hear it. It's I'm
• 39:35
  scattered the hoteps and I don't I don't need it in my life. Let
• 39:37
  me get a short doctor. Yes. Well, first of all, if
• 39:40
  it was doctor Umar talking, he would say that James Gunn gonna deserve a
• 39:45
  whole bunch of lashes, and then Boody gonna need five thousand lashes for letting
• 39:50
  the coon beat on him like that and should have never happened because it tears
• 39:54
  the black community. I don't, okay. I figured that's what it was.
• 39:58
  It would have been something stupid like what's the significance of the raccoon?
• 40:02
  Specifically, like do we have it because it's a coon's We were called coons,
• 40:07
  Yeah, Frankie, tell me, you don't tell me. I know
• 40:08
  we're called coons. But coon defeated the intellectual black Man holding the stretch.
• 40:22
  Now, my I understand my because my problem with the comic isn't in the
• 40:27
  universe yet. But that's you know, they cast him already, and yeah,
• 40:32
  they cast him twice where somewhere. Jim from the office is like,
• 40:37
  that's a lot of stretch. That's why my head exploded. It cannot be
• 40:42
  Adam Driver. I don't today. We'll get that to look at at the
• 40:49
  comic book. Thing is he never puts on the crystal red stroll masks,
• 40:52
  and that, you know, I was missing that. But okay, I
• 40:57
  have one other thing about him though. Yeah, no, no, here's
• 40:59
  my other thing. Other question question while was his statue of Liberty holding a
• 41:04
  monkey. Oh god, oh I didn't think about that one. Well,
• 41:07
  I know what, No, I know because I think the concept was supposed
• 41:12
  to be evolution because humans, humans are so close to stir. Yeah,
• 41:19
  yeah, I see it. I see that. Mine. Mine was a
• 41:22
  little different. Mine was if he's a high evolutionary and he is building like
• 41:27
  another Earth like the first version. Now, the first version was obviously the
• 41:32
  animal human hybrids. I got that. Then he then he flattens that.
• 41:37
  Besides, he's going to do another planet and he needs rockets grain juice to
• 41:42
  make them all intelligent. But all the children that he has created are blonde
• 41:46
  children. Why why they were like Asian? Those kids were saying they were
• 41:53
  Yes, they're all that, but he created them so they're But they were
• 42:00
  all blunt? Why why? Like, why are you creating characters that look
• 42:05
  like what your ex girlfriend? Why? There you go? There you go,
• 42:08
  there you go? You called it? Look what do men do everything
• 42:13
  over women? This section of the podcast is out of control. I just
• 42:21
  know it was bothering me that they were all blund because my thing is,
• 42:23
  if you're a guy things in your own image, they should all be black
• 42:28
  children. I thought they have enough vitamin D. I mean, they clearly
• 42:35
  were in the cages. And on top of that, he's not that smart.
• 42:38
  I think that's kind of like the current thing that's been happening is the
• 42:42
  fact that as smart as other people make him out to be, he keeps
• 42:45
  screwing up. I mean, the second you get the counter Earth, you
• 42:49
  see them slinging that dope right then. I had an issue with the dope
• 42:55
  and the way that they were whatever dope things. But I I, no,
• 43:00
  no, no, wait, what's the issue with the He was tight
• 43:04
  about that. Um. He was like, all they're doing is replicating.
• 43:07
  Yeah, yeah, right right right. He was like, all they're doing
• 43:13
  is replicating. But I was like, okay, but they created math.
• 43:16
  I had I have so many questions about that's not replicating, that's that's synthesizing,
• 43:22
  that's inventing. They are different than humans. Where they learn how to
• 43:27
  make their version of math? Where did they learn to whole everything? So
• 43:30
  he had to introduce them to meth everything, because he introduced them to capitalism,
• 43:35
  He introduced them the problems, like they had cars, you know,
• 43:37
  there was a Detroit there. Obviously they had all this stuff going on.
• 43:40
  He had to introduce them to serious portrait studio. I mean everything we like,
• 43:45
  at some point, meth just trumps up, you know what I mean.
• 43:49
  That's one of those things like you know some too. I couldn't see
• 43:52
  him introducing them to math or it was a society developing and they discovered math,
• 43:58
  which was his not interpreting what they said, which when I saw the
• 44:02
  second time, I think he still realized it because oh boy was like,
• 44:07
  oh but they make it math and he said, Dann for real, no
• 44:10
  said correct, Which is why I'm going to flatten who's saying correct, as
• 44:16
  in like I don't know where he's where they found out how to make math.
• 44:21
  But that's why I'm getting rid of them, because this is not the
• 44:22
  direction I wanted their inventions to go. I wanted them to go in the
• 44:29
  like medical invention, Like here's why, here's why I found a high,
• 44:34
  revolutionary, refreshing and a great village. He's not like the villains that took
• 44:37
  it one step too far. He's just evil. And it's been a while
• 44:42
  since we had one. Is like, actually, I don't identify with none
• 44:45
  of this ship you Eugenesis. Like before, it's always like kind of got
• 44:49
  a good point. I ask Nigga, like, you know, homelessness is
• 44:52
  fucked up? What do we kill everybody that got houses? And he'd be
• 44:53
  like, oh yeah, hadn't me. This one was just straight up evil.
• 44:58
  So I appreciated that. But was he that evil? Yeah, that's
• 45:01
  still the planet full of living being because he didn't like me going he made
• 45:07
  it. But well, you if you have a kid, you can't kill
• 45:12
  it, then that's not how this works. So still a living life and
• 45:15
  a human being, you can't just can't just be like that moms. I
• 45:21
  know, our moms did it pel us all the time. It is not
• 45:25
  actual. Other other worlds, other civilizations viewed him as God. And look,
• 45:35
  just being a religious studies major, I found that stuff fascinating. And
• 45:38
  you know, he was having that back and forth with his subordinate and she
• 45:42
  was just saying, oh my god. I was like, first of all,
• 45:44
  y'all believe in God. That's crazy to me. When he was like,
• 45:46
  there is no God, and that's why I stepped in, and I
• 45:49
  was like, I was waiting for him to say that too, because she
• 45:52
  said it one time before, and I said, that is interesting. He
• 45:55
  didn't check her on that, right, And I thought, I said,
• 45:59
  damn, James Gunna finally fucked up three fans. I can't believe his brother
• 46:02
  let this line be in the script. And then when he hit it that
• 46:05
  second time and said I stepped in. I said, bravo, bro,
• 46:07
  you thought of everything. Let's go. This dude is evil. But it
• 46:14
  brings in that question though like, yes, he didn't like reproduce them like
• 46:17
  parents do. He literally created it still, but kind of you know,
• 46:24
  God relationship. Let's say y'all were smart enough that y'all genetically created a puppy.
• 46:31
  If you fucking drown that puppy, you're still evil, dude. I
• 46:35
  don't there's no earth where I'm gonna be like, well, he didn't make
• 46:37
  it like I watch you drown a puppy. Things if I give you life,
• 46:42
  but I do not have the right to take it away? No,
• 46:44
  why not? They're sentient, They're not like he just made like what did
• 46:50
  he mean? Bill burd says he believes in the right abortion, and he
• 46:53
  also believes you can, you know, should be able to kill a kid.
• 46:58
  And he's making it. Bill, he does not believe that was his
• 47:00
  black Listen, Bill, Okay, what is happening? Yeah, I was
• 47:06
  gonna say this conversation. So I don't think Manuel has ever watched Full Metal
• 47:10
  Alchemists either, because not Okay, okay, granted they not creating though they
• 47:15
  not created like that, but I know what you're talking about, Listen.
• 47:19
  I was talking about from like a an ethical perspectives are different than morality.
• 47:24
  No, no, no, that was ethical. That doctor that took his
• 47:28
  daughter and merged, killed the wife and merged the jarter with the dog,
• 47:31
  Now he was jacked up. Everyone in Full Metal Jack guys everything was jacked
• 47:37
  up to up unless unless somehow y'all engine this movie. Like, I don't
• 47:42
  see what that brother did wrong with y'all are psychopaths. He was wrong.
• 47:46
  I was against him. When the man made a ninja turtle and killed him,
• 47:50
  I was like, man, Leonardo, he was burning them too.
• 47:54
  It wasn't even ethical death. He was burning people to death. I mean
• 48:00
  it was quick. Rocket was his greatest asset, and he was willing to
• 48:06
  kill him because he was ugly. Yes, yeah, that when that's not
• 48:09
  a good dude. He said, Yo, this is solving problems for me.
• 48:14
  He is exactly what I mean. But god damn, he is amazing
• 48:19
  and amazing acting performance, like the way that he performed that. I want
• 48:22
  to see the raw footage of him because you know he holding a tennis ballers.
• 48:25
  Yeah it's not a real there's no real thing there. But when he
• 48:29
  puts his hands on Rocket's head, yes, and he's like, man,
• 48:34
  I'm man. I was scared. He was given this brother was acting Okay.
• 48:37
  I really was appreciated. That was so triggered when he saw Quill drunk.
• 48:44
  Yeah, I got the second time this is he lit. He came
• 48:49
  in there, lit boy, off the sauce. They was like, bro,
• 48:52
  it's time for you to go to bed, and he was lit off
• 48:53
  the sauce and he was like, yo, how do you figure that out?
• 48:58
  Because why are you smarter than me? Um? And it's interesting.
• 49:01
  I was there with the second time I saw. I was there with my
• 49:04
  brother and when Rocket figured out the answered my brother is sick o. He
• 49:08
  was like what something I made figured out something? He said it like outwardly,
• 49:14
  and I was like, that is pure not my brother, but like
• 49:17
  the high evolutionary is full ego. He's girl, he is god. He
• 49:27
  was thrown around these people. He was like, I made you. You're
• 49:30
  perfect, you look good. He started feeling up old girl, and I
• 49:34
  felt for her, talking about she got a blemed is sir, your face
• 49:36
  isn't on you're talking about stop so talking about I don't look good, sir.
• 49:45
  Although the fit was hidden, I don't want to I don't want you
• 49:51
  to talk to me about it. And I mean, hands down, he's
• 49:53
  one of the worst dudes that I've seen and one of the only people that,
• 49:58
  like you said, Rod is a full out villain cartoon. Yeah,
• 50:01
  but yeah, anybody that walked out this film feeling his point of view got
• 50:07
  something wrong, No, but took it so well. Like That's why I
• 50:09
  loved about him, because even though his like his actions are cartooning, you
• 50:14
  know, blowing up planets and ship, it's not a cartoon Like. I
• 50:17
  feared this dude throughout the movie, you know, and then when he was
• 50:21
  like calm and then he would go to rage, it was you, my
• 50:25
  man. I mean, I loved him into his hot squad. But he's
• 50:29
  a different motherfucker in this. And that's what's another thing where I'm like,
• 50:31
  oh, this motherfucker here isn't at toll. Yes, I think he brought
• 50:37
  his Broadway skills straight up whatever I mean, Oh no, he needs this
• 50:45
  this servatory right there. And the characters. The characters also made him feel
• 50:52
  dangerous. Right when god Moore found out was the high evolutionary was going out
• 50:57
  there, she said, oh she was spitting. She was like this right,
• 51:05
  who dead? I wish I wish they carried that same energy to the
• 51:10
  end. Now they kind of did, right, like when his whole crew
• 51:14
  was like, nah, you ain't gonna make it, something like when they
• 51:15
  really had the gall I mean, these are the people that like right there
• 51:20
  with him. They still them growing people up, and the fact that they
• 51:22
  had the guts, the audacity, the gall to pull up their guns on
• 51:27
  it. I was like, oh, I guess he ain't that scary.
• 51:32
  That was the point. He was so scary, but they said me can't
• 51:37
  stand out. God, let's say. I know y'all hated the music,
• 51:39
  but the original score that they was playing at that time was of a revolution,
• 51:45
  right. They was like no, no more and it was like trumpets,
• 51:50
  it was swelling. It was like this is a new day. And
• 51:52
  he was like what fuck y'all, I'm gonna up that. He hit that
• 51:57
  stomp and said enough and everything was a race on that. Like I don't
• 52:01
  even know what people I felt bad. Oh girl, that was just the
• 52:06
  computer because she didn't get a choice. She was like, damn, I
• 52:08
  didn't even have a good ye the ship, like what, I didn't enjoy
• 52:15
  it, right, I know, that's so freaking That's the part. That's
• 52:20
  what I wish the music had more of, Like I do like what you
• 52:22
  were saying, like how would he take off the headphones? And like even
• 52:25
  that shot of Startler and he's standing there and they're playing the song and it's
• 52:29
  like out in space, you know, and it's like that ship was cool,
• 52:31
  you know, but no, I wish the score was dope, like
• 52:36
  you said, because it was like, oh shit, it's a revolution now,
• 52:38
  niggas, you know. Like I think another reason I forgot to mention
• 52:44
  that the music worked for me, and this is it could have been any
• 52:46
  song, by the way, But the reason, part of the reason the
• 52:49
  music work is it's a two and a half hour movie that doesn't feel long.
• 52:52
  And I think it's because every five minutes I was listening to a new
• 52:55
  song, like so it's like, you know, it's like I don't then
• 52:59
  it's starting to drag. Oh no, hold up, I remember this,
• 53:00
  you know, like, and I think that kind of works in the film's
• 53:04
  favor because you know, two hundred hours, it could and you know,
• 53:07
  it's marvel so you gotta stay through the credits. It could start to feel
• 53:09
  long. And it didn't for me. It felt the first time. It
• 53:14
  did the second time not as much. Yeah it didn't. Well, I
• 53:19
  mean, I haven't seen it twice. I know. Even then, even
• 53:21
  on the second time I felt it, it wasn't bad, like oh my
• 53:23
  god, you know, I gotta get out of here. But I was
• 53:25
  like, okay, we but you know what triggered it for me was like
• 53:29
  it was the constant repeating uh sequence between Gomorrah and Quill because I mean like
• 53:35
  we kind of had this set up in um, you know, Infinity War
• 53:38
  and End Game, and then we had a little bit more in the Holiday
• 53:42
  special, and then we had just a little bit and four and then we
• 53:45
  had a little bit more now in this movie, and I was like,
• 53:47
  yo, like like when she you know, finally like punched them and was
• 53:51
  about to take him out, I was like, Okay, give me more
• 53:54
  of this, like progressed this to another level. I'm here for the jokes
• 53:59
  though, the whole thing with the radio and all that that was funny.
• 54:01
  But I was just like, heyy man, like we're doing this again,
• 54:04
  Bro, don't you get it yet? Like now, I know, but
• 54:09
  I think like we gotten that point along. So you're saying you were you
• 54:14
  were a little confused as to a man not taking no for an answer for
• 54:17
  a long period time. I get it. I get it. I'm just
• 54:21
  asking especially one Like honestly, I thought it was just enough time because I'm
• 54:27
  like, this was to him the love of his lie, cosmic love of
• 54:32
  it and he lost everything else. That's funny, Like that's why I always
• 54:37
  fuck Will Quill because people, you know, like they didn't understand why he
• 54:39
  bubbed out, you know, in um Infinity War, and I loved it
• 54:43
  because he, like I think Gunn disagreed. I didn't read the article.
• 54:45
  He didn't really like how he was treated. But I love that because it
• 54:50
  was like when you carried his character from the first two Guardians into Infinity War
• 54:53
  and then he was like, you know, he chooses to kill Gamore or
• 54:58
  even you know, and Dane was like, nah, bro nice tride and
• 55:02
  then you know, walks away with her and then comes back like, oh
• 55:07
  yeah, I just killed her dog. You know. So of all the
• 55:09
  characters, like I love James Gunn, but if you gave everybody a list
• 55:13
  of characters that would fuck up the time they almost got they knows, everybody
• 55:17
  would have star Lord at least number five, and I think most of us
• 55:22
  would have had him number one. So like, I feel James, but
• 55:25
  uh nah, James, that that was right in the moment right now.
• 55:30
  But that's another thing I really liked about star star Lord, particularly in this
• 55:35
  project, is that he was both uh fuck up and very competent, and
• 55:42
  I could see why he was the leader, and like, there was so
• 55:45
  many times that he was being funny, he was being the goof. I
• 55:47
  got why they were saying it, but then he reminded me, like I'm
• 55:52
  that guy. Even him saying like it's a standoff. I was like,
• 55:54
  yo, that that that's what that is off. Sorry, it's a face
• 55:59
  off. But if it's fact, he's right, he's right or even and
• 56:01
  he's and like at this point, we watched him go through so much stuff
• 56:06
  in the Marvel universe and come out alive. He's competent as any other,
• 56:09
  like Avenger Level's character, right, so it made sense and then I love
• 56:15
  it. Even after all this time, the writing still leans into the humor
• 56:17
  of him, Like when he convinced that sister to like giving us, He's
• 56:22
  like, I'm gonna talk to their hearts and all that and this Susi's like,
• 56:24
  that's no, of course not, that's stude, but I'm gonna lock
• 56:27
  up their I was like, yes, I'm not doing that shit. But
• 56:32
  he got through the shorty too because she's like talked to her heart, you
• 56:36
  know, and he's like, I talked she was feeling me anyway was not
• 56:40
  definitely the Moore was doubting him. He said, Sauce, Yo, I'm
• 56:45
  him. Yeah, yeah, I've been bagging alien shorties throughout this whole series.
• 56:51
  Dog when he couldn't figure out the car, to me, I was
• 56:55
  like, that's just showing how hard stick shift is. That's how I like,
• 56:59
  that's starting to believe whole spaceship not to figure it out right. She
• 57:07
  was like this, this is hard to move. So I was like,
• 57:08
  actually having in my notes, I've said, Yo, that's all hard ships.
• 57:14
  I can fly ship with arms, but he can't drive stick who what
• 57:20
  I what I loved about his character was kind of like what we talked about
• 57:22
  before, was that it did kind of give him a huge stepping growth,
• 57:28
  which is something that's plagued him his whole adult life. I mean, this
• 57:31
  man lost his mama, he lost his other other daddy, you know,
• 57:36
  with yand so he's gay. So when he had Gomorra, that was the
• 57:39
  first time he had like a real meaningful relationship, a real connection. So
• 57:45
  when she was gone, of course he was gonna pop off and snap on
• 57:47
  Thanos and stuff. And because he ain't know, he don't know how to
• 57:51
  be by himself and keep and I saw you have to keep in mind like
• 57:54
  the relationships that he has art like his mom dying very tragic, right,
• 58:00
  but the Yonda relationship was basically a kidnapping turned into yeah yeah, very Stockholm.
• 58:07
  And then his other daddy got you know, more kids than Nick Cannon.
• 58:13
  Like this, this man ain't really had healthy relationships to learn from his
• 58:16
  whole life, and the arc being him learning to accept her autonomy and just
• 58:22
  let it go, and that his Gomore was gone and this new Gomore you
• 58:25
  know, it was cool, like it made sense, but most importantly it
• 58:30
  didn't take up the whole filming that it like rocket story being the main story
• 58:34
  made way more sense than us having to go through that with him. As
• 58:37
  as the eight story, I loved it as a b orc story. Fine,
• 58:39
  yeah, I agree. I about crying when I saw she was happy
• 58:43
  with the Ravagers. Man, I was like your life boom yeah her,
• 58:51
  you know, like they love her where she got her new family, you
• 58:53
  know, like she good, Like they were like I mean overjoyed that she
• 58:58
  came back, you know, like this isn't what you're talking about, like
• 59:01
  this the you know, and then and then it worked. It makes sense
• 59:06
  she'll never be the Gomore. We know, Um, I had to bring
• 59:08
  this back to but old girl Harley Quinn talks about this, right, She's
• 59:13
  like, for you to be like me, you have to do this,
• 59:15
  this, this, this, this, this in order and nothing can be
• 59:21
  different for you to be me. And I thought that same way for Gomore.
• 59:24
  The only reason why Quill got them buns was because of dumb being hitter
• 59:30
  the stone, dumb going this dumb breaking out of the prison. Like,
• 59:35
  so without those things, he's goofy. I wouldn't hit either. He probably
• 59:39
  stink sweaty. Yeah, and the time was getting green booty cheeks before hers
• 59:45
  stop that A couple other but this movie and this movie, he was not
• 59:53
  Quill of Movie one. He was down bad. So he was gonna call
• 1:00:00
  Thomas moment so everybody have a moment. She didn't want Carl Thomas. He
• 1:00:07
  was singing and talking about one weird. Yeah, the first movie is the
• 1:00:14
  one that was even able to break the Moore's defenses. Right, that Virgin
• 1:00:20
  of Gore, that version of Quill does not exist anymore. He Carl Thomas.
• 1:00:28
  We already know. We were talking about logic. Logically, you gotta
• 1:00:31
  be quill number one. I mean topless sweating in a tube for me,
• 1:00:37
  for me to even consider, okay, and if that's not here, then
• 1:00:42
  bro let me go with I'm chilling with Sevesto Saloon. Yeah, and earlier,
• 1:00:50
  um caraenl, what were you saying about Adam Warlock and stuff? Because
• 1:00:52
  I did want to hear about that. I just think, Okay, so
• 1:00:57
  I try herd not to I try hard when I watched these movies not to
• 1:01:00
  go, oh, this isn't like the comic, because that's not fair.
• 1:01:04
  It's a separate you know, somebody's taken their creative vision and this is inspired
• 1:01:08
  by but I and I understand the point of him in this story. But
• 1:01:17
  when you have someone as powerful as Adam Warlock and then you're sort of and
• 1:01:24
  I'm not saying that you couldn't see that he was powerful, but I just
• 1:01:28
  kind of feel like they neutered him a bit and he would because I'm yeah,
• 1:01:32
  like, I just I got that he didn't understand what was going on
• 1:01:37
  all the time because he was young. But once he figured it out,
• 1:01:40
  I wanted him to figure it out sooner, and I wanted some of that
• 1:01:45
  power to be in that final firefight, like, I wanted him to be
• 1:01:47
  one of the people that was also fighting high evolutionary. I just felt he
• 1:01:53
  was weakened to a point. And I get where we were going. We
• 1:01:58
  were setting him up for doing what he did do in the comics, which
• 1:02:01
  was become one of the Guardians. But I just I wanted a little bit
• 1:02:06
  more from him, especially is so good too? Yeah, well you know
• 1:02:10
  what else it is too. It's like in every video game when you beat
• 1:02:15
  up that one boss character that takes forever to be because they're super hard,
• 1:02:19
  and then they get on your team and they nerved, and you like,
• 1:02:22
  bro, what happened to the powers? That's what I'm thinking. I was
• 1:02:24
  nerved, That's what I was thinking. If he was nerved, I couldn't
• 1:02:28
  think of the term. That's what I felt. And I just that was
• 1:02:30
  the only thing, only other character in there that I was like, because
• 1:02:36
  in the first scene, he honestly got that first scene, I was like,
• 1:02:40
  I don't know how they're gonna make a movie out of this. He's
• 1:02:44
  too strong and it's only five minutes and they can't do um. So,
• 1:02:49
  yeah, they definitely, And I think James Gunn does this a lot.
• 1:02:51
  He nerves powerful characters by making them kind of dumb, like that's his shortcut,
• 1:02:55
  is like, we'll just make them stupid, Okay, because we can't
• 1:02:58
  have him have all the full deck. If he had a full deck,
• 1:03:01
  you can't beat him. But um, I enjoyed the portrayal of him.
• 1:03:06
  I george the character. But I think that was probably the big sacrifice that
• 1:03:09
  had to be made when you have that many characters in the film and purpose
• 1:03:15
  his purpose is really just to show how strong the high evolutionary. Yes,
• 1:03:17
  and clearly and clearly like and and you know, he does get an arc
• 1:03:22
  of redemption and loss. He loses his mother kind of like you know,
• 1:03:27
  yeah, yeah, he has to lose his mom. Okay, um,
• 1:03:30
  contractually, I know you don't think you just rolling around with two parents,
• 1:03:37
  Come on now, healthy, healthy household. I don't think, boy,
• 1:03:43
  who you think is ok? But yeah, it was, it made it
• 1:03:49
  made a certain level of like I feel I feel like it was a sacrifice
• 1:03:52
  the time. Like for sure, they were like, we want to give
• 1:03:54
  him a story, but it ain't gonna be the time that it needs,
• 1:03:58
  so they simplified the hell out of it. I do appreciate that. In
• 1:04:01
  the end, you see that he's a garden. So there's like a future
• 1:04:04
  of we can get more of this. They can actually flesh him out and
• 1:04:08
  give us somewhere to go. Although the trauma of Losers Mom is gonna hang
• 1:04:12
  over that character forever. I'm sure, No, I don't hold you.
• 1:04:14
  I didn't really remember when Thor lost his eye and you couldn't tell that he
• 1:04:19
  lost his eye ever. Yeah, that covered real quick, got a big
• 1:04:26
  old contact. She actually my man came back quick. He was like,
• 1:04:33
  okay, mom dead you know. Yeah. I was like, did she
• 1:04:36
  blow up? Like it was this so they I felt like they just rushed
• 1:04:41
  over it. And I was saying Thor's eye like when um Hella knocked his
• 1:04:45
  eye out because they couldn't show it. Yeah, it was like I thought
• 1:04:47
  she punched him and then he had a open hole. I said, I
• 1:04:54
  watched I the way for it to dripore. That's actually what made in the
• 1:04:59
  film. I don't know if they man for it, but that made her
• 1:05:00
  soul scary to me. Yeah, that's yeah. I wasn't even like she
• 1:05:09
  didn't even gloat like I got your eye. She was like, that's why
• 1:05:12
  happen? When to cleanly punch somebody. I was like, Mike Tyson could
• 1:05:19
  never that's crazy and now and it was a god. She punched a god's
• 1:05:25
  eye out and didn't even take a second to be like, oh, look
• 1:05:28
  at the fit'st to nothing. No, she do that on a regular But
• 1:05:32
  I'm I was so turned off by the fact that he had to become like
• 1:05:39
  so neutered in that sense, and just I'm just tired. Here's the thing.
• 1:05:44
  I understand because some people were like, man, if you're a comic
• 1:05:45
  fan, you're not gonna like this. And I get that. I gave
• 1:05:48
  up on the MCU being comic accurate, like over a decade ago, like
• 1:05:53
  that dream is over. The ship has sailed a long time. But this
• 1:05:57
  interpretation, I'm tired of the big and it's kind of the same thing that
• 1:06:01
  he did with Dragson Volume two. I was like, Bro, you didn't
• 1:06:04
  have to do this. You can if you want to do bring the comedy.
• 1:06:09
  You can keep him like the straight man character and just bring the comedy
• 1:06:13
  around him. I thought they could have just doubled down on that again.
• 1:06:15
  Adam Warlock could have came in. Maybe he's premature and he's just not cultural.
• 1:06:19
  He's not worldly, he doesn't understand references. You could have just played
• 1:06:23
  that card again rather than making him seeing dumber or more childish. And for
• 1:06:28
  some comic fans out there, that is actually part of the comics too,
• 1:06:30
  you know, by the way, like the old old him. Yeah,
• 1:06:35
  when it was like you know, when he was interacting with Thor and stuff
• 1:06:39
  like that. But even if you came in during the Infinity Saga or whatever,
• 1:06:43
  you knew that Adam Warlock, when he even shows up at all,
• 1:06:46
  it's because there's some huge significance. And I was a little turned off at
• 1:06:51
  the fact that now you bring him in after teasing him in volume two,
• 1:06:56
  You've missed him in all of the Infinity war and I'm sitting You're thinking,
• 1:07:00
  like why is he here again? Like what exactly is his purpose? How
• 1:07:03
  does he serve this? And it was kind of like, to be honest,
• 1:07:06
  I don't even think they needed him. I mean, if you're gonna
• 1:07:10
  have him as a guardian, fine, maybe leave that for somebody else.
• 1:07:14
  After Gun, they could have sent some of their wild pigs to go get
• 1:07:16
  Rocket, you know, like they didn't need Adam Warlock. But I was
• 1:07:20
  just turned off by hurt by his nerfing. But I but it's just like
• 1:07:28
  you said, they didn't need him either, so I don't. I didn't
• 1:07:31
  leave the movie like finally the definitive Adam Warlock. But at the same time,
• 1:07:35
  I didn't. It didn't ruin anything for me. It's just more like,
• 1:07:39
  okay, so they just didn't have time to do whatever. And of
• 1:07:43
  course they left him alive and in a teaser that means they someone can develop
• 1:07:47
  this character. Just want't be James Gunn because he's going to DC. I
• 1:07:51
  just pictured him being like, They're like, yeah, you gotta put out
• 1:07:55
  of it this movie. He was like, fuck, let's pay uh give
• 1:08:00
  us some of drag lines. Well, you know, but I also think
• 1:08:04
  that um Manuel said this earlier, like you know, you didn't have to
• 1:08:09
  neuter him sort of that when I think of a character that was created that's
• 1:08:14
  sort of like that's similar, that was kind of birth too soon or created
• 1:08:18
  too soon. Um this is an anime reference. I'm thinking of my hero
• 1:08:21
  Academia and a bad guy like um Tomora Tomorrow is the one that has the
• 1:08:27
  hands all over his face. Those the hands of his family that he killed.
• 1:08:33
  Kiel said, but he was but he's even though he has some his
• 1:08:38
  weaknesses that he's not done so that that's why he can't fall power up.
• 1:08:41
  But his his mental is still very singular, right, So it would have
• 1:08:46
  been more terrifying if yes, we have to me. I just think it'd
• 1:08:51
  been more terrifying if yes, we have the high evolutionary we know is the
• 1:08:55
  big batty in this film. But also secondarily we have this that has it
• 1:09:00
  in for Rocket, not because he's scared of the high Evolutionary, but it's
• 1:09:03
  because I will sort of like I will not be defeated. I will go
• 1:09:08
  after the thing that or if he came after U Nebula or something, you
• 1:09:13
  know what I mean, Like if it was something where we have this extra
• 1:09:15
  threat that we're dealing with and then his arc blends with their's, like okay,
• 1:09:23
  well the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I just felt like,
• 1:09:26
  yeah, that would have been more interesting than I agree. I mean,
• 1:09:29
  it could have all worked like that. It's definitely a portrayal choice that
• 1:09:31
  they made, and like, like I said, it didn't bother me.
• 1:09:34
  But also, if I'm being frank, we're down to like like if there's
• 1:09:39
  an A through Z character hierarchy, we're probably around like Q right now if
• 1:09:43
  he's like, we're starting to bring people in and like can't even carry their
• 1:09:45
  own comic book. No more like it's like Adam Warlock man was all right,
• 1:09:50
  it was not what it could have been, but I like, I
• 1:09:55
  can't lie like I cared that much. Yeah, my thing is like the
• 1:09:59
  power level, Well it wasn't my thing. It's my thing is like I'm
• 1:10:01
  Adam Warlock from the you know, early Infinity guardlet and he's always been like
• 1:10:06
  the space hippie dude to me, and I really thought that was missing,
• 1:10:11
  even like the version in the Guardians of the Galaxy video game from two years
• 1:10:15
  ago, I thought was a better version of this. But like you said,
• 1:10:17
  Rod, at the same time, it's like, you know whatever.
• 1:10:19
  You know, I've seen the version of the video game. I've got the
• 1:10:23
  comics. You know, there's different versions, because the one of the video
• 1:10:26
  game was space hippie but not like the comics. So I liked that winning.
• 1:10:30
  I liked this one. What it was they put like Jack of Hearts
• 1:10:32
  in she hope I'm not gonna be mad. I wouldn't be mad. I'll
• 1:10:39
  just be liked. He come on, get out of here. I know
• 1:10:44
  I am though, turn around on that turn around that figuringe thing behind you,
• 1:10:46
  and show me your jack arts. They didn't make one, dog,
• 1:10:51
  thank you. I'll be the first to buy it, bro if they didn't
• 1:10:57
  make one. I think that proves my case, which is that they like,
• 1:11:00
  at this point, we're just pulling the people that like that, that
• 1:11:04
  couldn't do it by themselves, that don't get the video game. So like,
• 1:11:08
  you know what, these people gonna fall through the cracks and ways that
• 1:11:11
  I'm sure that we'll all be a little bit like mythed by um. And
• 1:11:15
  I think that's a sad reality of having a thousand characters. You know,
• 1:11:19
  some of these motheruckers ain't fitting to get what they deserve. But I do
• 1:11:25
  want to see this character again, and they did, like they did leave
• 1:11:28
  me feeling like there's a place to take Adam Warlock that could be interesting.
• 1:11:30
  It just didn't happen here for me. I did not see that, not
• 1:11:34
  here. Not here. I'm saying I'm hopeful that somebody will, But the
• 1:11:39
  way this movie ended, I was just like, well, he just part
• 1:11:41
  of the team now, Like I don't see anything meaningful coming from him that
• 1:11:45
  happen. Have your ass crying that Christmas specials or some shit they missing his
• 1:11:53
  mama. I question actually about that last scene. The girl that was she's
• 1:12:00
  from the comics too, but what was her name? I cannot remember her
• 1:12:03
  Alia or something like that. She's a character in the comics who joins the
• 1:12:06
  Guardians and has like, you know something. Yeah, she has some type
• 1:12:13
  of you know powers, Like they showed her glowing hands like you know,
• 1:12:16
  and they show she's got uh something with one of the eyes too. Yeah,
• 1:12:20
  she has like she's from what I understand. I haven't read those comics,
• 1:12:24
  but she does show up in the Guardians Trauma book. So okay,
• 1:12:27
  I vaguely remembered another woman that was not Gomorrow, but I just could not
• 1:12:30
  remember her name. And that's not supposed to be the same little girl who's
• 1:12:32
  in the Guardians game, is it. I don't think so. I don't
• 1:12:35
  think so. There's an alien girl in that too. There's another alien girl
• 1:12:41
  who allegendly star Lord's daughter in that Oh Lord. Yeah, oh yeah,
• 1:12:47
  that's a great game if you haven't played it. The Guardians of the Galaxy
• 1:12:50
  game is in Oh my god, it's incredible beginning to end. It's it's
• 1:12:55
  such an emotional story. It's a great solo game for people who love solo
• 1:12:59
  game and it's you know, it was I was so surprised by that game
• 1:13:01
  to this the first person shooter or no, it's like third person and you
• 1:13:05
  control star Lord and then you manage the team and it's ill like the choices
• 1:13:11
  make you make the team like you more like you either bring the Guardians together
• 1:13:15
  or you force them apart. You know, I will say, not a
• 1:13:17
  lot of hip hop music in it. No, no, I don't remember.
• 1:13:20
  That's on brands. Yeah, it for me. But but Adam Warlot
• 1:13:28
  though, speaking bars that ce, so there was some hip hop there,
• 1:13:30
  you know, because I got my bars from Adam Warlot, so you know,
• 1:13:33
  because my man speaks in rhyme. I think James Gunn should take Etra
• 1:13:38
  Don in the DC universe and let Black Thought write the bars. I feel
• 1:13:45
  that be insane, feel like the world needs is one of my favorites too,
• 1:13:49
  for his bars and as far as always be so simple in the in
• 1:13:53
  the TV shows, I want you want him to really start and I want
• 1:13:58
  him to be talking up to be like, yeah this nigga, don't come
• 1:14:01
  with that high English. Ask him some more questions if black Thought is doing
• 1:14:08
  the voice too like that. But back to Jack of Heart's real quick the
• 1:14:15
  reason why he never became popular, They said, all the artists hated drawing
• 1:14:17
  his complex as costume, so they they were volted in unison against the creator
• 1:14:24
  and would never draw jacky and I love this costume. That hell. That
• 1:14:30
  costume is flames. Flames, thank you, Okay, thank you, Rod.
• 1:14:33
  At least we can agree on that valid is hell because that way in
• 1:14:44
  the mouth you tell me we had that reminds me we had a joke on
• 1:14:47
  Game Theory this season that we got tired them trying to make us change the
• 1:14:53
  joke. They'd be like, can't you change it? Can't you change?
• 1:14:54
  Well, it's just not we want something some type of we the last day
• 1:14:59
  of the day show yea, and they sent us to like they send it
• 1:15:02
  one more time, Like I know, we asked you every day this week.
• 1:15:04
  Can y'all come up with some more examples for this thing? And we
• 1:15:08
  just all said no, Like, but what was the joke? It was
• 1:15:13
  about w ncuble a women's NC double A players getting eggs in a bag um
• 1:15:19
  for their meal. When the men remember that, remember that episode and we
• 1:15:24
  had fake We had done every egg in a bag joke you can think of.
• 1:15:29
  There was nothing left and they sent it the last day and everybody was
• 1:15:32
  like we were making jokes that they wanted us to write jokes like, you
• 1:15:36
  know, like we was writing jokes like uh man, that egg in the
• 1:15:41
  bag is like asking writers to keep writing about eggs in the bag for a
• 1:15:44
  week even though we already did this ship. Like, I feel like that's
• 1:15:48
  what happened with those artists in Jack and Hard. They're like, MANU,
• 1:15:51
  that dude, No, it ain't no way, ain't no way you can
• 1:15:56
  Spider Man's webs is hard, bro, No, ain't no way, And
• 1:16:00
  niggas start throwing the webs on Spider Man half the tom Boy. They do
• 1:16:03
  not care, niggas. It's just a string, yeah, I mean on
• 1:16:06
  his costume. He just be white Jack and Jacko. Hart's the same way
• 1:16:15
  every time. But his mouth is moving. All right. I think we're
• 1:16:21
  done with our guardians review. We like, you know, basketball with it
• 1:16:24
  turns into a blowout and they just started talking about some other ship. I'm
• 1:16:27
  sorry for that guy. And that's all good, unless anybody has any last
• 1:16:31
  thoughts. I didn't say, um, I think they tried. I felt
• 1:16:34
  like it was a fetch, you know with that little dog thing, you
• 1:16:38
  know, like they was really trying to make that happen, and I don't
• 1:16:41
  know, it did not happen for me, Like when I was on the
• 1:16:44
  ground, No cosmos amazing, the best dog in the world, Like,
• 1:16:48
  you know, good dog, good job, he's the best dog. Come
• 1:16:51
  on man that like that that scene with her and what's his name with Cracking,
• 1:16:58
  Like what what do you say? Uh? Nebula and cracked him?
• 1:17:01
  What was it? Uh? Crab Nebula. He's cracked. He had something.
• 1:17:08
  Now he's when when they come together again, he's like crab Nebula or
• 1:17:11
  something. I can't remember what he calls it. Yeah, he put their
• 1:17:15
  names together. He's like at them again. I love that ship because him
• 1:17:17
  and Cracked and the Nebula had the relationship from the second one when he comes
• 1:17:21
  up on her and it's like, what are you gonna do when you get
• 1:17:24
  you know, nice hat? You know. He's also such a good character,
• 1:17:29
  such a good character man, better than any right than he has any
• 1:17:32
  right to be. Yes, how small his screen time is, Yes,
• 1:17:35
  the best In part two when like he betrays what's his name, and then
• 1:17:39
  he's mad at all the dudes get killed. Like he he's a character man.
• 1:17:44
  You know, Dunn's brother does it in that role and Cosmos the best
• 1:17:47
  of his name. Shine. Yeah, I gotta give him the nepotism sometimes
• 1:17:54
  to be hidden, you know, also worked out, you know, worked
• 1:17:58
  out for her. That's his wife who get shop. For those who didn't
• 1:18:00
  know, but like, oh, y'all know, I put your wife in
• 1:18:02
  your brother in your movie. Yes, oh no, no, I didn't
• 1:18:05
  say nothing was wrong with you. Never shut. People are like I can't
• 1:18:12
  believe he keeps on putting them all of in his movie. The same thing.
• 1:18:17
  Fact, I was like, actually I'll be tight if my sister do
• 1:18:23
  movie. I'm not insane. Also, like black people, nepotism hit different
• 1:18:29
  anyway, yes, like like if you black, and it's some neverutisms because
• 1:18:32
  you can do the job. It's not like like sometimes white people get a
• 1:18:35
  little too friendly and be like, I don't know if you can act,
• 1:18:39
  you want to be in a movie. But you think about how many think
• 1:18:44
  how many scars gards have we seen, like one generations already from the dad
• 1:18:53
  down, you know, look at what black nepotism. Look at the winds,
• 1:18:57
  that's true. You know what I'm saying, Like all of them can
• 1:18:59
  bring it, like look at you know what I'm saying. Look at the
• 1:19:00
  Jackson's like they all got something like white. Never tell them just hit.
• 1:19:04
  It's a little different. It is a little different. Yeah, they mess
• 1:19:08
  around and let you direct guy five the three or something. All right,
• 1:19:15
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• 1:19:18
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• 1:20:03
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• 1:20:11
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