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PAX East ’18 Repisode · Multiple Nerdgasm

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hi everyone Welcome to our PX East 2018 wrap-up episode I am joined today by
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Jenna and James hey guys hey hello I don't know why I sound so like fabulous
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right now maybe it's because I enjoy pack so much I guess I just enjoy pack
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it's the East Coast mentality starting to get to man living here a couple years
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and it's just kind of that Val starts slipping in I got to make sure I don't
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lose my Australian accent do it again but more Australian I'll go to make sure
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I I lose my Australian accent the whole int int again but more of oh good day
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how you going uh Welcome to our PAX East wrapup repode repode and [ __ ] repode
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that's how we talk down under mate nailed it yeah no that was that was
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fantastic that's the one so thanks for joining us everyone yeah if you went to
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PX I guess you can listen to us talk about some games that you would have
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seen there if you didn't go to PX you can live through us as is you want PAX
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East is so freaking huge it's just [ __ ] enormous and I don't have many
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packes have you been to another packs other than East I know you've been to
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unplugged yeah yeah so I've only done pack East and packs unplugged uh PAX
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East I think I've done maybe three or four times now okay yeah um size of it
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it's it stayed the same size but it's just it's massive you know and what
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kills me is the lines you know if you want to see any of the big games you're
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waiting in lines for hours to be able to test the stuff out this year too A lot
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of the games that those booths say like uh Playstation or Xbox were demoing are
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games that are already out so you you don't really have to wait in line you
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could just go home and play them they didn't have yeah well Detroit was there
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which was which is not out yet and that was kind of like a I guess a you know
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like a major release that's coming up but there weren't a huge amount of them
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there's a new World of Warcraft everyone was into but uh I think those were the
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two biggest games there apparently Telltale announced a new Walking Dead or
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something um but I didn't see them there did anyone see Telltale there no I
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didn't I uh I saw the signs up for them but I mean I'm going to be honest at
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this point Telltale just kind of Blends into all the other ttal for yeah someone
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told me afterwards oh did you see the Telltale announcement I was nope guess I
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was did you looking at all the other stuff I didn't there is a lot happening
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there though there's no way that you can like ATT packs you can't you can't see
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and do everything and it's 4 days now and you still can't it flew by for me it
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same for me too and uh I do feel like I was a little more exhausted at the end
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of it no definitely and I think the panels have been getting better as well
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as years have gone on and to me that's that's one of the biggest draws now is
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you know originally when I started going to packs it was all about the games what
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I could see what I could test what I could play now I'm enjoying the panels
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almost more than that preview of the games because in the the gaming world most of
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these previews exist already you know you can already see it you can already
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test it you know if you just want to see the game you can jump on Twitch and see
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it someone will you know like they they give them out early they you can see
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people playing it uh if you want to try it out I guess it's worth you know
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showing up but I don't know but the panels I agree I um uh I'm super into the Acquisitions
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Inc live panels uh I love that they did a really good job of that
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this time that was an awesome one this time yeah yeah you guys told me all
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about that made you watch it later yeah no it was really cool I I've always
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loved the panels I love listening to people who have made the games talk
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about them I do feel like there weren't as many of them or the ones this year
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were more about the YouTubers playing the games rather than the people who you
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know rather than the developers coming out and talking about them actually was
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really missing the gearbox panel this year yeah yeah they didn't do one maybe
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that's because they're in crunch mode on Borderlands 3 and so they couldn't
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venture out I'm going to assume that's what it is I'm going to hope that's what
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it is yeah that better be what it is you guys keep telling me how amazing their
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panels are in the first year I plan to go they don't have one I know well if I
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recall last year was where they showed us footage of the mysterious game that
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they wouldn't say the name of which is was obviously Borderlands 3 right that
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was last he definitely I mean he came out and said you guys know what game
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this is I don't have have to tell you I just not ready to officially release it
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yeah yeah yeah that was a PS so I guess it kind of fits that maybe maybe they
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maybe that's what they're doing they're actually literally working on it that
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seems very feasible given that so we can help cross yes but the penny arcade
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panels are always great yeah I love them Penny Arcade was really good um a couple
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of the ones that I went to that you guys didn't go to uh for independent game
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designers they had a couple really cool panels uh the idea of whether you should find a
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publisher for your game or whether you go independent um you know publish
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yourself run a Kickstarter what is that looked like and those conversations were
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with developers who had gone through the process themselves so it was really
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great to hear from a variety of people a variety of experiences and really give
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you some insight if you want to join this world what does that look like you
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know what are the challenges you're going to face and how do you overcome
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them that's excellent you know the reality is when you decide to to make an
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independent game uh in that tabletop World Kickstarter is kind of known as
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the go-to path to to get that out and it's huge right now but there's a lot of
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other ways you can go um and getting in touch with local publishing companies or
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even some of the major publishing companies can be a hard route but at the
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end of the day pay off better because it truly is less work at the end of the day
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to do that than it is to try and run a true full Kickstarter campaign yeah
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Kickstarter is tough we ran a small one and I guess I just we've talked about
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this on the show before like it was just a little thing to make a we wanted to
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summon the ghost of Steve Jobs you know as you do and you can watch still if
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you'd like yeah it's on our YouTube channel and it was successful and it got
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funded but just the I guess the management of it it can be really
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intense and I and we didn't do a whole lot of research it was kind of just a
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thing we did in spur of the moment because people suggested it and then but
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just you basically that kind of thing can be a full-time job pushing a
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crowdfunding campaign so oh yeah any kind of social media like that yeah you
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know the the biggest lesson these guys are telling you is if you do decide to
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run a Kickstarter the entire time that kickstarters open you know that month
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that it's running that's it that's all you have time for if you're not 100% on
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top of it it's not going to be successful yeah yeah I to like I said
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even our little little shitty one we did for our film was it was uh it was Heavy
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workload involved with just keeping yeah and there were a lot of out of pocket
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expenses anyway once we gave out all of the um yeah that's the other thing
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you're going to do a Kickstarter don't uh don't promise merch that costs more than the
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kickstarter you usually want to figure out those financials before you set
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everything up just Lessons Learned Lessons Learned James James just lessons
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you know yeah Le yeah life life lessons life lessons yeah Financial lessons but
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um yeah so moving on from from your own way of publishing games let's take a
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look at some of the games that were out there today we were looking at you guys
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got to take a look at one of the the horror games there called a mure um now
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I didn't I didn't check this one out what was this game all about I had play
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through the demo of this it is a an adventure game uh by wither Studios it's
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a video game uh and it's coming to PC and I think they plan to bring it on
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other platforms at some point if it's successful uh it's like I said it's a s
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scrolling Adventure game where you're in the demo you're kind of a is it's got a
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very love crafty feel you're a guy who comes to this old mansion and and he's
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uncovering a mystery in this horrible creatures and you have to solve puzzles
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and make your way through it's uh it was it was really cool the art style was
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really neat it's got uh like a cool cartoony but also horrific art
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style and uh yeah I believe it's coming out later this year I watched you play
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this and I um because I didn't have the headset on I didn't I didn't know what
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you were listening to but what it appeared to me was that you were kind of
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in a maze where things kept changing but it was the same location every time is
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that correct yeah so uh you interact with things either by walking up and you
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know opening a door but you also have like a uh you acquire abilities as you
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go along kind of supernatural abilities and and then you use those to interact
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with other things and you can reveal secret messages on walls and sometimes
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when that happens the layout changes as well it's very uh like it's very love
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crafty very it captures kind of the feel of Madness like a dream where it's like
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well I went down this Corridor before and there wasn't a door there now
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there's a door there like I feel like it it captures that very well and yeah like
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you you can you walk to the left and then you find something and then you
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walk to the right and then the right doesn't lead back the way came anymore
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it leads somewhere else if you go to wither studios.com you can see it they
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got some screenshots and uh and you can watch a video of the gameplay there one
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game that I wanted to talk about and I have uh since PA I actually did not get
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to play this at PA but we returned to the booth multiple times and since then
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I have been playing it and it's amazing
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and this is puss from Team coil so we
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were drawn to this booth with just the
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big puss over the uh one of the tiny Indie
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booths and it is a mess of just things
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floating on the screen um the demo reel had a cat riding a dolphin through a
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sunset this game like legitimately
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almost gave me seizures yeah try playing
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it it's one of those games where you can get intensely frustrated but want to
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keep going because it's it's so ridiculous and good I had been at work
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all day and I tried to play it and I just couldn't do it it's just I haven't
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made it pass I'm still I mean the Demo's out now it doesn't come out until June
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um I can't I can't even get to the boss of the demo I think I've gotten two
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worlds away from it and I still just keep going back so
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the levels change every time the worlds change so it's totally random what
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you're going to get some of them are very easy all you do is move a little
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cat head to a little glitchy part of the screen so drag it with your mouse right
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yeah yep so some of them are just like an easy path to go you can't hit the
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sides of it otherwise it'll glitch out and then start you back
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over um and some of them just have [ __ ]
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floating through the screen and everything's happening in the background
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this game is Bonkers yeah I if you if you go off the path it doesn't it's not
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like it's I don't even know how to describe it it it because it's like you
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know when the TV fuzzes and it's it's just oh God it's it's
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Insanity like every like it goes all fuzzy and and and zaps and and glitches
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and oh my God please everyone go get this the demo on Steam it'll be out in
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June but please please go play the demo just experience it at least
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once yeah um I mean I think one experience is enough to to tell me no on
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this I didn't even play the game I only watched it but there is no way I could
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play this game it's very difficult oh it is so trippy like I said I I cuz I I
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work with computers I'm using a mouse all day I came home tried to play the
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game and I was just I was just like oh I can't do it right now I I am going to
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give it another shot when I when I'm not you know I'm not Mouse fatigued I guess
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is the right word uh because it's very oh God you got to be yeah so I mean it's
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this at that that difficulty level of like Super Meat Boy where it's It seems
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impossible but you know there's a way I actually think that puss is easier than
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Super Meat Boy I I'm so bad at that game
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Super Meat Boy yeah well I actually I started replaying uh the original Super
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Meat Boy on the switch after packs because uh I had the pleasure of
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experiencing Super Meat Boy forever the new game from uh from Tommy from Team
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meet uh it is if you've played Super Meat Boy uh and you're familiar with it
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it's more of the same sort of uh but it is like an infinite he's constantly
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moving in this one right yeah it's like an infinite Runner yeah he's constantly moving and
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um levels are autogenerated right yeah so they're made up of of blocks of of of
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puzzle I guess so like there's there's kind of like uh I guess Lego pieces of
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level that contain a little puzzle pieces and then it randomly assembles
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them into a level oh I didn't realize that yeah every puzzle piece has
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essentially a difficulty rating attached to it yeah so as you advance in
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difficulty level you'll be getting more more I mean I guess puzzle piece is a
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great way to describe it more of these puzzle pieces at that higher difficulty
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rating so you're hitting the same you could be doing the same level over and
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over again but be playing different levels every time do that make sense
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that that makes it harder because I feel like the way that you get good at Meat
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Boy is muscle memory yes and kind of like a trial by death
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thing I think once it's generated and you're playing it it sticks but the next
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time you play the game it's different so right it's kind
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of maybe not infinitely replayable but it's certainly quite replayable right
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and uh and and it feels good like it's got good you know cu the the one of the
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things about Super Meat Boy is the controls are always really solid like it
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feels like you're in control and and and when you it always felt like if you if
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you [ __ ] up you [ __ ] up it's not like yeah I'm very good at controlling
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myself into a saw yeah like over and over but it's cuz you didn't react it's
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not because like the controls are bad or anything like that you know what I mean
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it always feels like ah I'm just not like I don't know I feel like it's
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they're very tight games and this feels the same like it's just very responsive
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and it feels good to play like control wise and it's hilarious because he's a boy made of
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meat what is the story behind this one you know what I'm not sure I I assume
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it's similar he seems to have a family now he's got like a kid but he's still
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still with bandage girl presumably and uh she's still being kidnapped by that
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[ __ ] in the in the glass Dome thing I hope he's still with her after
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everything you went through in the first game well you know things Chang never
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know never know maybe he got bored uh we saw a really cool um paper folding game
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it's playable on a laptop and
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laptop it is definitely playable ex exclusively laptop
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exclusively laptop it's playable on PC and on iPads this is
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Koto uh it was actually made by some people uh Studio flip lived not very far
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from us in Sydney yeah it's weird that we didn't interact with
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them like stuff in Sydney cuz that's that's yeah it's weird it was a
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cute cute puzzle game uh kind of the art reminded me of uh do you guys remember a
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strawberry shortcake yeah yeah I I know
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I know of that right well you um you can fold the paper in to to solve puzzles
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and and by paper you're really talking the screen itself so the game screen is
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the paper and you can fold Bend twist that and that's how you would solve the
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puzzles to move really really G um I actually saw a
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couple of similar style games at East where you're kind of folding paper and
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manipulating that to solve puzzles but I think quinoto really did the best job um
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of kind of harnessing that you know making that kind of I know a little bit
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of a magic to it right yeah at first I thought oh this is kind of weird but it
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it works like once you once you see it like what what what needs to be done you
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go oh okay and and it makes sense it's and the puzzles were really well done
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like the artwork I guess really needs to be solid to make the puzzles work and
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and they nailed that I think yeah and it's pretty early on too I think she
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said that it would be at least next year before it's ready reminds me of one of
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those Mad Magazine foldings you know the back page of Mad
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Magazine do you guys have Mad Magazine I don't I know um we sold your horde few
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years ago you have that over here or is is that like a no you had Mad TV no we
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had Mad Magazine and Mad TV We we had you guys just magazine I personally did
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yeah I personally did not okay all right cool so I'm sorry I don't I don't know
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what you're talking about well hopefully there's a listener out there who knows
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what I'm talking about right in guys yeah podcast at
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multi nasm.com all hail Mad Magazine so did you like did you fold the back cover
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of that magazine to solve a puzzle and move to the next level move to the next
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magazine yeah exactly yeah you weren't allowed to read the next one until you
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solve the the puzzle on the final page of the one before obviously how often
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did those come out I guess I want to say monthly maybe maybe B monthly or
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something like that oh so you had you had kind of a while to solve the puzzle yeah I
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did I did and then uh at a certain point I got stuck and then uh had to stop
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reading it again had to stop reading it and then they went out of business cuz
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yeah because no could Sol that cuz apparently I was the only [ __ ]
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person reading it another paper cutout related game that we saw briefly uh was
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flipping death uh which we saw last year at PAX East as well um it they had it on
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show again this year it's still not ready uh which is disappointing because
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I really want to play it but uh it's by zoink uh and it's coming out in the
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switch uh I think maybe next year they weren't they they didn't really know yet
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so it's it's still uh still in development but it's it's the game I
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think we talked about this game last year yeah you play a character who uh
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you can I I think you are the Grim Reaper or you become the Grim Reaper or
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you get hired to be the Grim Reaper and you can flip between the living world
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and the dead world and the the the screen kind of flips around and you can
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see the front and back of the of the uh the backdrop CU you're all kind of paper
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cutouts and then you solve puzzles by switching between the walls it's really
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cool uh and I'm looking forward to it yeah it is it is really cool while we're
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talking about paper cutting games um I think that we should bring up projection
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um yes we saw this game at e Expo in
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2015 I believe yeah you can see uh a little our video on our YouTube channel
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about it we our brief St into uh YouTube clips of interviews yeah we interviewed
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uh Michael Michael the developer and made a little video it's on our YouTube
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and now he came all the way to PA East and the game like [ __ ] awesome game's looking
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beautiful it's so cool to see how it's changed in the past three years and it
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got a shout out from uh Mike From Penny Arcade because uh it's concept is so
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clever like you you move a light source around and you can walk on the Shadows
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that are created by the objects and that's how you move around the levels
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it's just like it's just a super solid idea it's really clean it's really well
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done um so the controls you have a shadow puppet kind of a stick puppet
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that you're moving around you do that with your left stick and then with your
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right stick you're moving the light source and as that light source moves
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around the objects it creates Shadows that you use basically as stepping
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stones so you have to control both at the same time in order to overcome the
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different obstacles and kind of solve the puzzles throughout the game while
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you guys were talking with Michael I spent the entire time just playing that
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game cuz it was awesome so I have no idea what you talked about I was just
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intensely trying to figure and play this game out it's
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amazing well mostly because he's from Sydney as well and uh and so a lot of it
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was just logistical stuff about you know being in America and all that kind of
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stuff but we did uh you know like he he got picked up uh Blowfish is publishing
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the game uh it's going really well he had he had to Port it over from from the
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previous engine he was on so that took a lot of work and uh and they've just been
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polishing and polishing it for uh for the last couple of years and uh I guess
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that's why it looks so good they've they've just really um he said that they
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with the levels and the puzzles and stuff like that it's quality over
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quantity and they're trying not to just pack stuff in there
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it's it's all quality stuff as far as you know the puzzles and things go so
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yeah it's looking great um James you played a game that I thought looked
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really interesting uh Opus Magnum by
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Zach Tronics yes I did what which game
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was that that was the game where you were you had to place machine parts and
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you were giving them instructions oh my God that game yeah okay all right this
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game is really cool it's also really frustrating I only played like five
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minutes and I already got frustrated with it and slightly addicted to it
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which is why I walked away um you sure this is what puss is for me yeah is that
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what it is is that puss for you like yeah yeah that I'm like God I can't take
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this but I I like it a lot and I want to keep going yeah no just basically the
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same reaction like God I [ __ ] I can't this is horrible I can't stop I need to
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keep going um so Opus Magnum is all about essentially creating assembly
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lines is really the easiest way to put it but you need to select the different
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parts of the machine you're going to use place them where you want on the the map
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um give them instructions Specific Instructions how far they're going to
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rotate when they pick something up when they drop something off what they
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connect to so it's it's a very it's a problem solving game you have to get
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items from Like A to B but how you get them there you need to essentially
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program the machine to do it it is it's really cool um again you know I only
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played like 5 minutes cuz I knew if I didn't stop I wasn't going to
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stop but this is this is definitely something to check out just be aware
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that this is going to be a time suck you're going to sit down to play this
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for 10 minutes and then an hour or 2 hours is going to go by as you're just
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going through and building out what's happening do you guys you reminded me of
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uh did you guys ever play that I'm pretty sure it was a Sierra game the
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incredible machine and there was there a bunch of sequels to it but it was yeah
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it reminded me of that a little bit in that you had to build a machine to solve
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puzzles this one was more instruction based whereas that well well you still
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have to build the thing but it had an instruction element seemed like a like
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a uh kind of progression on that theme anyway yeah it's definitely taken that
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like that base idea bringing it to that next level yeah you know and adding in
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almost a programming element to it right yeah yeah yeah it looks really cool yeah
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I'll check that out Zach Tronics I believe is the developer of that Opus
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Magnum looks really cool check it out I think it's out on Steam already actually
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I could be wrong about that you know what I should probably check before I
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say it you know what [ __ ] it since when are we if it's not just go
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to steam look for it you can put it on your your list yeah that's you wish list
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yeah and if it's not there then don't yeah and then email me podcast multip
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nasm.com tell them and email zonics and tell them to get it on Steam exactly
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Jenna you got to play a game where you played as a vacuum cleaner correct yes
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yeah um rumu it it's so cute you play as
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a sentin vacuum cleaner that loves everyone and everything so your response
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to everything is cat as I love cat I love messes I love cleaning and you are
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being tested uh initially by the the
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smart house um who keeps telling you that the owners will be back soon but in
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the demo I never saw them
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um and you kind of start to think that there might be something up mean the
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Smart House in that demo you were cleaning up bloody messes well it was
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was it was a vague resemblance to blood that could have been Jam that's true
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there was a piece of toast mhm well I kind of like that ambiguousness really
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it's like oh maybe it maybe there isn't something going on or maybe there is
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like that's pretty neat the voice acting is great um and it had a few different
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puzzles in it it it's just a really cute game and I'm in love with a vacuum
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cleaner anything in love with you
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yeah that's a rumu from robot house yeah
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there this one is on Steam
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MH that's out now I think right yeah yeah yeah check it
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out yeah that it looks really cool it's a cool little Adventure mystery game I
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think uh definitely worth checking out yeah that one looked really interesting
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you were down there for a while yeah yeah while you were playing that we were
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checking out Fred collection that's that's out now on Steam right that's something you can
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grab immediately I I think the the original two frames are individually The
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Collection comes out in uh a bit later this year you can check out the original
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games yeah so this game this is a really cool kind of concept right um easiest
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way to describe it is that you've got a set of cartoon panels on the screen and
26:54
they interact with each other as depending on how you place them so you
26:58
you're starting in one point you need to end at another point and you have to
27:02
swap and move the tiles around to get your character to interact appropriately
27:07
inside of every panel to make it safely from A to B that's a great idea really
27:13
cool it's really cool um because you know as things connect through you'll
27:17
suddenly realize like okay I need to have these two panels connected in order
27:20
for them to make it there but it's got to come before this and after that and
27:24
it's it's interesting it's a great puzzle setup um and the graphic are
27:28
really neat I mean I don't know I just thought it was a really fun game yeah I
27:32
like that it's clever like if you enter the panel from the left then you know he
27:37
gets shot by a policeman or something like that if you enter it from the right
27:40
he can run around the corner like it's just yeah it's very cool and each frame
27:45
is I they actually have all the animations it's not there's nothing
27:49
cookie cutter about any of it it's all uh very handcrafted puzzles it's great
27:55
yeah and every animation you know so for every frame there's an animation for
28:00
every frame that you could possibly place before it yeah exactly yeah that
28:04
makes sense right so it's not just like you know you put the two wrong panels
28:08
together the guy just walks in and waves his hand and goes nope you know you see
28:12
what happens and how that interaction goes to help you understand what you
28:16
need to do yeah so it's almost worth doing it wrong just to see what happens
28:21
in some cases uh we played Jenna and I played against each other in a game uh
28:28
uh that reminded me of of the old uh halflife 2 mod the ship uh turns out
28:33
that's because it was made by the guys who made the halflife mod the ship uh
28:38
who one of the guys we were chatting to uh it's murderous Pursuits by blazing
28:43
Griffin and it is a descendant of that game but uh it's got I think more going
28:50
on it's actually really cool you it's a multiplayer game you are assigned a
28:56
Target to assassinate uh you you are also assigned as a target for someone
29:01
else to assassinate and then you have to wander around the environment blending
29:08
in uh to hide from your assassin while also attempting to find and murder your
29:13
Target and uh you can if you stand in a position kind of marked then you'll
29:20
perform the same kind of actions as the the NPCs so you look like a NPC and then
29:26
as soon as you start walking around and kind of you know hunting it it it's
29:30
going to become more obvious to the other players that you're not an NPC or
29:34
one of the the other players you know what I mean I mean does that make sense
29:37
yeah yeah it makes total sense how many players can join in in a single match
29:42
that's a good question I think quite a lot like cuz the the maps were pretty
29:47
pretty big I think uh you know what let me check how many could in the ship it
29:52
was it was a lot of people yeah one to one to eight oh and um if you're
29:57
listening to this episode when it comes out um they are actually having an open
30:01
Beta this weekend oh very cool and the game uh apparently unlocks on Steam
30:06
April 26th so uh so it's it's going to be available really soon well that
30:11
sounds fantastic that game looks really cool it it was fun and I think this
30:15
would be a good game to um play with friends it's not a very long game you
30:20
can kind of jump in for a match or two well we played the ship quite a lot uh
30:25
back in the day and it's like it's the same kind of thing you you're like oh
30:29
what are you guys doing you want to play a quick game of motores like absolutely
30:32
like it's it's a good fun game that's my uh reenactment of what will happen it's
30:39
a good reenactment absolutely a fun game that's that's just how I speak about things
30:44
yeah Matt you talked a lot about graveyard keeper while we were there um
30:49
you know when I took a look at this I just saw it as Farmville for graveyards
30:54
so maybe you can explain how it's not I
30:57
see it as stardew Valley for graveyards
31:01
which cuz stardew Valley I like but it's
31:07
not it it doesn't quite hook me because it doesn't have it's not set in a
31:11
graveyard and I'm not a graveyard keeper uh what graveyard keeper has over stard
31:17
Val is that it is set in a graveyard and you are a graveyard keeper so um know I
31:23
think it's uh it's not quite exactly the same thing but it is like a you know top
31:28
down kind of uh graveyard management simulator uh
31:34
they call it the the the world's most inaccurate graveyard simulator or
31:38
something like that I think uh it's by lazy bear games it's coming out uh
31:43
hopefully later this year I've I've signed up for the alpha just CU I I just
31:48
really like it it's just cool the Art's cool I like the concept it's like a
31:53
goofy game of running a graveyard like you you got to you know you craft things
31:59
you solve puzzles you meet people do quests it's it looks really
32:04
cool I think I have a hard time getting into those kinds of games um what was
32:10
that uh what was the space one I just
32:14
couldn't do it oh uh Starbound Starbound yeah and Terraria as well H yeah yeah
32:21
yeah see I love all those games they're it's I love they're cool I like to just
32:26
kind of chill and explore and have some fun in them and build a house and then live in the
32:33
house that I built except in this house in this case I guess it's a grave I live
32:39
in a grave I think if anything was going to get me into that style of game it would
32:45
be graveyards yeah this one might turn it
32:48
around for you we'll see we'll see when it comes
32:54
out uh we got to revisit a game that we have played played in the past uh well
33:00
another example of a game we played in the past actually uh and and really
33:03
enjoyed and actually uh uh they remembered us and uh it was kind of like
33:10
a fun little reunion we got to play armed and gelatinas again th this game
33:13
for me wins PX East this
33:17
year so that's a heavy yeah no they
33:21
might it's such with how many times we returned
33:26
and I think I think we dominated that
33:30
game for like half an hour no man that dude that dude showed up and kicked all
33:35
our asses definitely wins paxis for multiplayer for me um but for overall
33:40
game I would have to go with projection okay but armed in gelatinous
33:46
was just um it was amazing so much fun to play so I guess we've talked about we
33:52
talked about on our PX Oz episode from a few years ago um basically you're a blob
33:57
and you in the in like the primary game mode I guess you're a blob on the screen
34:02
you collect guns from crates and shoot the other blobs and there's up to four
34:07
players right yeah up to four players and as you collect guns your blob
34:11
increases in size yeah it decreases in speed yeah decreases in speed makes it
34:17
easier to hit but you also increase in health so it's it's very well balanced
34:23
where you could be the largest blob on the screen and then suddenly just EXP
34:27
exp and everybody's stealing the guns that you have yeah the guns go flying
34:31
everywhere oh man it's it's so much fun
34:35
it's just go it's I it's you get a bunch of friends over on the couch and and
34:42
shoot each other as blobs it's great there are a bunch of other
34:46
competitive games on there too like uh we played the soccer one a lot yeah the
34:51
soccer one actually makes me a little anxious when I play it cuz I'm bad at it
34:57
and then it's I compare it to you know uh Foos
35:01
Bowl tables I hate them they make they actually I get very I get anxious when I
35:06
play them because I feel like I am not in control of what's Happening even
35:09
though I am literally in control of what's Happening like I I will I will
35:14
definitely give you that CU I mean the control is a little you know it's a
35:17
little loose which makes the the combat really fun but it does make the soccer a
35:21
little harder um it's only because you're you have to kind of travel around
35:26
the ball to push it in a Direction and other everyone else is pushing it and
35:29
I'm just like ah it's like it's fun it's
35:33
just uh yeah I just I'm it gives me that that's the same feeling as as fosb well
35:40
aside from the anxiety I mean one of the benefits there is just that there's
35:43
there's more replay value with this game you know it's not just a single mode
35:47
anymore they've added a lot to it um they give you a lot of control the
35:51
DodgeBall was DodgeBall was mad fun Dodge sick yes it is you know I mean
35:56
even when you're just going in and you're doing that that free-for all
35:58
combat you can go through and pick out which specific weapons are going to be
36:03
available um things like that right so it's little stuff that really makes the
36:06
game more replayable a little bit more fun yeah a great potty
36:11
game I honestly feel like I summed it up
36:14
best uh when I said bracket pop Q7 in my
36:19
pocket tweet yeah yeah that definitely
36:23
that sums up that game yeah definitely
36:26
definitely unra and uh Twitter posting
36:30
from don't walk in tweet guys
36:37
nice I played a a a crazy game that uh
36:43
at first I wasn't sure about but it like
36:47
it won me over it's pixel ripped which is a VR
36:52
game uh from aore I think I'm I'm probably not pronouncing that correctly
36:58
Anna is the developer she's um she's from Brazil and she made this game uh
37:04
for uh it was oculus rift that we that I played it on and you are playing on a
37:10
handheld console inside the game but then because you're the chosen one the
37:17
game comes out of the handheld console and into real life and it moves through
37:22
these different game modes and at first it was it it was odd cuz I was I was in
37:29
VR playing on like a Game Boy but just
37:33
in VR and and I was like okay like it's it's a it's a cool concept but it's not
37:39
you know I wouldn't want to do this constantly and then as it went on uh
37:44
there was a mode where you you have to play the game on the Game Boy while
37:47
you're in class at school and you if the teacher sees you you get in trouble so
37:51
you have to use a spitball gun to shoot spitballs and distractor and stuff I
37:57
didn't like that that that part of the game I felt was a little I don't know
38:03
that wasn't for me but then the game explodes out of the the console and then
38:07
you're playing like this big like
38:10
surround VR platform game and that was sick uh so and you have to use a
38:17
spitball gun to to shoot stuff to get the character to move like in a it just
38:22
and like it's like I I haven't seen ready play a one yet but I imagine like
38:28
it it's they they come from a similar place where it's like
38:32
Nostalgia yeah it's that 80s throwback references um that's what this game was
38:38
all about so while you were playing I actually got a chance to to kind of sit
38:42
down and talk with a developer and a little bit um this game started off as
38:46
her senior project um this is a woman who's like in her early 40s um I really
38:53
hope she's in her early 40s because otherwise I just consed damn James we'll
38:58
say late 30s this is a woman who's in her late 30s who's like probably 25 at
39:03
most uh no I'm pretty sure she said she was 41 you know what [ __ ] the age yeah this
39:09
is a woman from Brazil um so she did this as her senior
39:14
project and then just kind of took it from there and started developing it um
39:18
you know what she said one of the things she loved is that because she was
39:21
working on the solo if she got an idea she just kind of went forward with it
39:25
just did it and put it into the game which is really cool but watching you
39:29
play I could see that like maybe that that maybe that was a little overboard
39:35
um cuz there were definitely times where it looked like you know you were playing
39:38
one game then suddenly you were playing another game then suddenly you were
39:41
playing another game and I MH I don't know personally I didn't feel like you
39:44
had enough time to really get comfortable with any one of those style
39:47
games before it exploded to the next section yeah I I don't know if that's uh
39:54
because of the demo was trying to show you the the the overall concept like
39:59
that it does shift or whether that's how the game goes but yeah that is the true
40:03
but then on the one hand it it meant that I got to move on from a that that kind of
40:09
one section that I wasn't enjoying that much onto something else so that was a
40:14
positive I guess for me like CU I understand the concept the concept is
40:19
great it's just that I found I just wanted to play the game I didn't want to
40:23
do the the metag game aspect of that as such like the the classroom aspect I
40:28
don't know it's just I felt like there was there was too
40:32
much going on for me but I mean maybe that maybe that like other people enjoy
40:37
that the [ __ ] do I know this game had the coolest Booth they literally had the
40:43
ghost traps from Ghostbusters 2 real on yeah like the legitimate ghost
40:48
trap under the desk under the desk too just hidden under
40:52
there well in case a ghost shows up they found a company that does props for movies
40:57
and had a bunch of 80s memorabilia stuff that they rent out for for films and TV
41:03
shows and this is coming out in May so this thing Launches on May 22nd is when
41:08
it hits yeah so that's you have a yeah
41:12
Oculus VI and PS PlayStation VR mhm yeah so you you're going to need a VR headset
41:18
to play it check it out it's a over-the toop Nostalgia crazy game like I don't
41:25
think there's any other game like it so definitely check it out
41:27
uh super giant games was there again this year they are my favorite game
41:31
company they're the ones behind Bastion and transistor which are two of my
41:35
favorite games of all time py came out last year and I saw the demo there and I
41:42
bought it as soon as it came out but I actually haven't gotten to play it until
41:47
very recently um just like the last few days I was kind of inspired to play it
41:51
after um hanging out at the booth a little bit and talking to Darren Corb
41:55
the composer uh who we interviewed last year mhm he's a great guy we talked to
41:59
him a few times this weekend py is great it's a little different than their
42:04
previous games in that it's more of a an interactive story and I I know you Matt
42:11
played the demo last year where it's kind of interpred with a a little sports
42:17
game called rights yes um so it'll go through this this interactive story
42:22
where you decide which way to go and you know who you side with on your Caravan
42:28
and then you'll go into this Sports thing which I'm actually terrible at but
42:34
I am really enjoying the game anyone who likes super giant or just wants a game
42:39
to play I would I would recommend checking this out and if you haven't
42:42
played their games go back and play Bastion and transistor they are amazing
42:47
yeah they just make good solid um thought-provoking games there and the
42:53
the art music uh concept is always just like like I said just really solid
42:59
they're all it's a very small team so everything is written together so the
43:03
art style fits with the story and the
43:05
music slots in to yeah it's all feels
43:10
considered and intentional it feels like like OT yeah I was going to say before
43:14
we move on to talking about tabletop we really should talk about the the one
43:18
competition that we joined up in yeah this is the first time I've ever done a
43:23
competition at PS and I thought what better way to do it than a uh a high
43:28
stress game that we've never played before in a high pressure
43:32
situation so uh the game keep talking nobody explodes this has been out for
43:36
quite a while now for for all of us it was basically the first time playing it
43:40
and we jumped straight in we didn't do a demo uh we we did the the
43:46
competition yep I'm glad we did it that way actually yeah you know what we did
43:50
all right well you guys did yeah you two did all right no you did all right too
43:54
now me the James is we we lost the jameses I forgot about that but we
44:01
actually we watched um a little bit like Matt and I stayed back after we got
44:05
kicked out and watched a few more rounds and there were about five teams that
44:09
just went on forever until I think it was like another hour and we're like no
44:14
we can't watch anymore we've got we got somewhere else to go well we had to go
44:18
play Thorn watch that's right we could talk about Thorn watch as
44:23
well since since it's literally being printed but uh yeah keep talking nobody
44:27
explodes you got to disarm a bomb one person has the manual the other person
44:31
has the bomb and you got to explain to the other person how to disarm it I'm
44:35
sure listeners are probably familiar with yeah it's been out for years now
44:38
it's a great game it was great it was great if you haven't played it play it
44:43
yeah I don't think I can't it can't be expensive it's like a and I think it's
44:47
available as a board game too right or am I mistaken about that I've never seen
44:52
it as a board game yeah I think one of them has to be in some kind of virtual
44:57
form yeah I don't think it's a board game yeah I think I definitely think you
45:01
lied about that I mean you can get the uh the manual printed out yeah you can
45:07
print the manual right off their website podcast at multiple
45:11
nasm.com tell me I'm a
45:14
no subject line Matt is wrong yeah again so um so while you guys were finishing
45:20
watching that I was off learning the rules to Thorn watch so that I could
45:24
teach you how to play and run you through the G mhm um yeah if we haven't
45:29
said this before uh James is our rule guy yeah so anytime we have a game that
45:33
we don't know how to play or we could easily learn but don't want to we just
45:38
give it to James yeah and then we play a game while he learns how to play the
45:42
next game yeah it's uh it's an honor I guess really to to be that guy you know
45:48
every group should have a James they should every group should have a James I
45:53
got to tell you I sat down at the table to read the rules and I had like six or
45:56
seven groups of people come over and be like hey are you going to run a demo
45:59
every time I was like no guys I'm just here learning the rules for my friends
46:03
who are off having fun so I could play the game with
46:07
that but um there is a photo up on our our um Instagram and Twitter of James
46:11
learning the rules true yeah element let's speak of the rules to
46:17
Thorn watch first right um they're they're pretty clean this game did not
46:22
take me long to to learn uh the mechanics are relatively simple uh it's
46:27
it's a game that's designed to be run by a player so you'll have a multiplayer
46:31
game I think it's like up to four players no six you can have up to
46:36
whatever six or five players look on the website they'll tell you how many
46:40
players you can have um but one person make the game I definitely did not make
46:44
this game one person is what's known as the judge so they control the game um
46:50
and you're you're almost dming in a sense but you're really just helping the
46:54
story move along you do get to play at the enemy um and you can make it as
46:59
difficult or as easy as you want for the players of the game what I really liked
47:04
was simple clean mechanics um a lot of different Mission types and styles
47:09
inside of the game but a it's a storyline that really unfolds and it it
47:15
tells a story which I think a lot of games kind of miss out on you know
47:19
they'll get that one shot play or that really interesting thing this game tells
47:23
a story that unfolds as you progress and you can change the direction of where
47:29
that story goes as a judge as the person running the game that's one of the
47:32
things that you get to do is kind of direct where these players are going to
47:36
go and what they're going to encounter this was similar to Apocrypha
47:40
too that we talked about in the um uh the packs unplugged episode where you
47:45
can roleplay this game as much or as little as you'd like because the cards
47:49
do offer prompts and you can just use that as and play it as a board game or
47:55
you can really get into it and play it as a tabletop
47:59
RPG yeah like if you've got friends who want to get in and and kind of be the
48:04
characters and and kind of roleplay dungeons of dragons style kind of and
48:08
and and you know quip and carry on you can do that or you can just put the
48:13
cards down and roll dice and play it like a you know Monopoly or something
48:19
yeah and this was the what we were playing James's favorite
48:23
game What U what we were playing with was the very first printed editions of
48:29
the game and by very first I mean Thursday morning at paxes they unwrapped
48:35
the cellophane of these games and that is the first time the Publishers saw the
48:40
final printed version of the game so it was really cool it was really
48:44
interesting to see it was a ton of fun to play really really a privilege guys
48:49
yeah yes it was a privilege my uh my copy arrives soonish I guess since they
48:55
printed them now uh I backed it on Kickstarter it will be coming to us soon
49:01
and then we have one more game to add to the stable yeah I know it's going to
49:06
be cuz we we need more games yeah it's going to arrive and then it's going to
49:10
sit on a shelf until we're done with all the other games that we've been playing
49:16
yep speaking of other games that we've been playing we got to play the new
49:22
release from Atlas games oh cursed Cor yes which that game is really good I
49:29
just wish Alex didn't suck at
49:34
it I am sending this to him yep no you can send that right through hey
49:41
Alex let your friends
49:46
listen so we got to they were demoing this at uh at PX unplugged and we sore
49:51
we didn't get to play it because it was there was you know like a they filled up
49:54
the demoing it the whole weekend but uh we actually got to challenge them the
49:58
guys from Atlas to a bunch of games over the Pax East weekend which was fun it
50:03
like super it was a great group it was great playing with them yeah and it's a
50:07
fun game like it's really fun like it's
50:11
it's simple to learn but you difficult
50:16
to master yes I actually and I guess that's how I'm going to describe the
50:20
other board game that we came home with a copy of from fa East but yeah that's
50:25
uh that is what I like about it like yeah what it's you can learn what
50:30
you have to do easily it's just it's not as everybody learns to be better at it
50:34
it just gets harder and harder because yeah you screw each other over
50:40
so you you bet on uh on whether certain cards are or are not going to
50:46
appear uh and Bas that's basically the just of the game is that you have to bet
50:51
this was like poker in board game form kind of yeah that's a good point really
50:57
sort of James will now give a very eloquent explanation of the game this is
51:01
honestly a game that you kind of need to watch being played or play itself in
51:05
order to fully understand but just know that the game is really fun yes and the
51:11
guys from Atlas except for tra no Travis was really good Alex was the one who Su
51:17
geez I'm just saying zero points in the first round come
51:21
on well I love you Alex I'm sorry Alex we had a great time playing with you I'm
51:25
just throwing that out there as much as possible so hopefully one of them gets into the
51:31
podcast now the other game you picked up um cuz you guys only purchased two games
51:35
right was ilat and this was a game I'm
51:38
sorry how many did you purchase me
51:43
zero this is the first time I went to a convention and bought zero games you
51:47
have no idea how happy my wife was when I got home so uh ilat right this was this is a
51:54
game developed by the decemberist the band
51:57
yes which is interesting um no no that's
52:03
that's they said that too the the two two together Studios kind of put it put
52:10
it together as a game in the end and and he even said when he was describing it
52:13
to us they got the call and said oh you know you know the band of The
52:16
Decemberists they've come up with a board game and he was like oh great
52:19
let's he the the board game that the band came up with and then uh yeah it's
52:25
a [ __ ] excellent game it is really cool apparently they would
52:30
um they came up with this by playing card games on their tour
52:35
bus and um wanted some really old Pub
52:39
like feel yeah it's very very old it looks like tarot cards it's really cool
52:44
yeah it yeah it feels very old world and I I love that the the box is part of the
52:50
game like it's it comes in a box that you require to play the game like it's a
52:57
feature of the game I love that and the board itself is great um
53:02
because the box is very small so you it is portable it comes with a fabric board
53:07
that unfolds you you don't have to carry around this big game like so many other
53:11
games yeah I mean when you described that as a game that that you would think
53:15
you could find in an old bar it like legitimately you could take this game to
53:20
a bar and play it it is it's small it's compact it's fun it's really easy to
53:25
play it's really easy to set up and the Box being part of the game means that
53:30
you don't have something you need to push to the side it's it's all right
53:34
there it's great it's really really well done and it's deep too like it's like
53:40
again it's the more you play it the more strategies you come up with I suck at this
53:45
game yes you do except I won when we
53:49
played it here so it it's yeah no you can't really say you suck cuz you did
53:54
win I don't suck at this game podcast at multiple ner gm.com wait wait did you
53:58
know you were winning no maybe you do suck yeah I think I do he sucks I
54:04
accidentally won I I definitely thought I was sucking at it and uh and then
54:08
towards the end I realized what I was doing wrong but apparently I should have
54:13
just stuck with whatever it was I was doing in the first place so because it
54:16
worked yeah yeah you guys I'm looking at how many albums The Decemberists have
54:22
and it's blowing my mind i' had not heard of them before this I'm not a huge
54:27
fan like I I have won from apparently from 2002 uh and I I really haven't
54:33
listened to them since and they've they have a whole world of albums now I
54:38
should I mentioned that we the reason we checked out this game in particular uh
54:44
was because Patrick rothus mentioned it during his excellent panel and uh gave
54:50
it a good rap so that's one of the things that led us to to try it out um
54:55
that was a really good panel and if you don't know who Patrick rothus is Google
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him and then read his books and then enjoy him like I enjoy him that sounds
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weird that did sound a little weird yeah yeah but I don't I feel like he wouldn't
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dislike that so well I mean I don't know if he would like that but you're right
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he wouldn't dislike it yeah I think I think he'd be okay with that now one of
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those games that that I don't think was super indepth but was a ton of fun was
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organ attack from awkward Yeti mhm that was a fantastic game so we got to test
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play that um now I've heard of this a couple of times one of my cousins has it
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he loves the game he was telling me about it so I was pretty excited to sit
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down and actually play it and we played with Ryan from Awkward Yeti yeah it's
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like a another I guess kind of party quick uh card game where you basically
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try to destroy each other's organs with disease and what I love about the game
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is that these diseases are not like the designer didn't just sit down and
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make up these diseases like the guy who designed this game took medical books
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out researched diseases that would actually kill these specific organs and
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created a game using real diseases yes
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yes it's very cool and it comes in a uh a box that looks like a medical book
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yeah it looks like um The Merc manual for anyone familiar with with medical
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books no idea what that is yeah what is The Merc manual it's a medical book
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sounds like something the medical book of illnesses and diagnoses
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diagnoses that makes a lot of sense now
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H it looks like a cool book
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yeah yeah no that's a fun game um yeah check it out it reminds me of uh uh
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there was a game we played at PX unplugged uh that I've forgotten the name of
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oh that game that was really good I have no idea what it's called yeah not not
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the same but similar in theme where you're playing to to to knock out uh
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your opponents was it super fight no no no wasn't this one where you were trying
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to get diseases and kill yourself oh yeah oh you're absolutely right you're
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absolutely right yeah it was it was almost like an inverse of listen to the
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Pax East episode and we'll tell you all about that game yeah podcast at multipl
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nerd.com let us know what [ __ ] game we played we'll tell you how great it
57:32
was what the name was everything you need to know on that Death Wish yeah it
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is was it Death Wish No Death Wish is a movie no oh both it's both did you look
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that up on the multiple NM website where we could have easily just looked that
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information up absolutely did yeah podcast TW
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mm.com there's some Star Wars games that we played cuz you have to play Star Wars
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games and they're from f FY flight because when you play a Star Wars game
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it has to be from Fantasy Flight yes exactly it's required these
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days actually I think it literally is required I think yeah I'm not joking
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about that that was it has to yeah you played Destiny right yeah so I got to
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play uh Star Wars Destiny which is their
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card SL dice collecting um game um this has been out for a while now so it's no
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big surprise if you if you've heard about it but this was my first chance to
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sit down and play it um overall I'll I'll just start off with
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a couple things one I really do not like player vers player games or single
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player vers single player just because when I play games I like to sit down
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with a group of people and it's I don't have that one person that I'll sit down
58:40
with and want to combat with like that just doesn't happen um but I wanted to
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play this game so I could get an idea of the mechanics the feel the balance uh
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see how well they did with it and I loved it I think they did a fantastic
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job um it is another collectible card game except now you also have dice thrown
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into the mix on top of the cards and the the fun part about that versus something
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like magic the Gathering you know if you're playing Magic you know what your
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cards are going to do and they're going to have that same impact every single
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time there's no real luck to what the card does it's just whether you draw
59:14
that card or not whereas in this game you now have that dice element so you
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could have an amazing setup and have a shitty roll and it just Falls to your
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opponent or you know that Vice first could happen you you know your opponent
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could have something amazing set up with cards have a couple of shitty roles and
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suddenly the whole thing is switched to your side so I I like that I think it
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adds that little bit of element of risk surprise um you it just it was a really
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fun game well balanced great to play I'm never going to own
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it I actually I didn't realize that it was a like a collectible game cod game I
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thought you kind of just bought the game and then you played it but it's it's
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more like magic where you kind of buy boo booster packs and all that kind of
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stuff yeah exactly yep so you get the you get the core game um every booster
1:00:01
pack is going to come with one card that has a die with it and then a bunch of
1:00:05
other cards so every time you get a booster pack you're adding dice to your
1:00:08
collection and the dice are associated with specific cards and you know as
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traditional Star Wars you can go light side or you can go dark side you know
1:00:17
you can go Empire or Rebels with it yeah you can go Empire or you can suck pretty
1:00:21
pretty much yeah that's that's how it works I didn't realize this was a
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collectible I that actually makes me glad that we never got into it yeah me
1:00:29
too I was just thinking that like oh that was that was close there I almost
1:00:33
bought it a couple times a bullet yeah speaking of dodging a bullet
1:00:39
I so far I've managed to avoid getting sucked into this next game we're going
1:00:44
to discuss but I man this game is like the bane of my existence and I've never
1:00:49
played it because you want it so badly I want it so bad
1:00:56
Star Wars Legion it's beautiful yeah the figure
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the figures are so [ __ ] cool it's
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it's I mean if you've played X-Wing you know it's the same thing but
1:01:12
it's the you know ground troops and stuff basically oh and vehicles
1:01:18
it's like uh land battles I guess is that how you would describe them yeah
1:01:23
but Space Battles are cooler space are really cool yeah
1:01:30
but Darth Vader this say Darth Vader uh you can get a tie advanced in
1:01:37
X-Wing yeah but then I got to pretend that Darth Vader's in there with this
1:01:40
one right there he's right there no he's only in it when you use Darth Vader
1:01:45
pilot card CU all the ships have pilot cards that come with them yeah with this
1:01:50
he's like right there on the board yeah he's an actual miniature that you get to
1:01:53
play with and like kill Luke with yeah
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yeah yeah so it's yeah you you it have
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you ever played like Warhammer James I I haven't have you no that's and I was
1:02:10
goingon to ask right because no no I I cuz I it reminds me of what I think
1:02:15
that's probably like do they measure like 100% yeah this game reminds me of
1:02:21
what I feel like Warhammer 40K is yes
1:02:26
know if that's true good well as long as I'm not the only one but no cuz I wanted
1:02:30
is because with with Legion right so it's Star Wars miniatures you put the
1:02:34
Miniatures on the board uh you have cards that dictate what the Miniatures
1:02:37
can do and how much health they have and you roll dice to see damage uh it's it
1:02:42
it can get quite involved so I don't think we're going to be able to cover
1:02:45
all the rules here but that's the general concept but when you move them
1:02:47
around you have to measure the distances with like these little sticks like like
1:02:52
you do in X-wing miniatures and I just wondered in cuz I know in war hammer and
1:02:56
stuff I think they just measure with like a ruler right and move stuff yeah
1:03:00
so they measure with ruler tape measure things like that I mean it's at the end
1:03:04
of the day it's the same thing right it's measuring how far it can shoot what
1:03:08
that range is or what that movement's going to be um one of the things that I
1:03:12
like about Star Wars Legion which is identical in uh X-Wing uh Miniatures is
1:03:19
that when you have ships they have basically little preset flight paths
1:03:25
right like you choose what that path is going to be and it's always going to
1:03:28
turn on this angle type of deal yeah um so it adds just kind of a an element of
1:03:33
strategy to the game mhm yeah and at the end of the day
1:03:38
it's Star Wars It's prepainted Star Wars
1:03:43
miniatures painted guys and once again everyone the email
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patreon.com Multi nerdgasm uh there's one other board game
1:04:20
we tried out that I believe uh you were you were pretty Keen
1:04:25
to to try it out Jenna I was um this was The Buffy Legendary game um we have
1:04:32
played James you actually own the Marvel
1:04:35
one and as much as I like Marvel I like Buffy
1:04:40
better I wanted to see how this one played it is very similar to that one
1:04:45
yeah honestly I don't think I would buy it it's a good game but I would probably
1:04:52
go with a different just not Buffy on this one what up so I remember you
1:04:57
telling me there were a couple of issues like with with characters or something
1:05:01
there were a few things um one of which is that they're kind of spread through
1:05:07
every season the cards that you get so you can build up things like Xander from
1:05:12
season six to fight uh the big bad from season 1 which just
1:05:19
doesn't you just can't can't get there
1:05:23
mentally exactly um um the thing I honestly the thing that I personally had
1:05:29
the biggest problem with um you know that card that you can just if you have
1:05:35
like two monies you can just buy the cheap card that like does nothing really
1:05:39
and is like counts for like one little fight yeah I know what you're gonna say
1:05:44
I know what you're gonna say I feel like there are so many
1:05:50
characters that they could have used for this card that's just hey let me assist
1:05:55
you in a fight I'm not going to be very useful but at least I'll be something
1:06:00
and they they chose Felicia Day who is in like a couple of episodes as a
1:06:06
useless potential Slayer and also I hate
1:06:09
her so wow don't hold
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back podcast at multipl nerd.com if you're listening Felicia
1:06:21
Day he's not listening so no so your issues with the game
1:06:26
where one fici is in it fici is in it period yeah that fici is in it at all
1:06:32
that the whole yeah totally but I I also feel like it wasn't as immersive as a
1:06:38
buffy story it just felt like a buffy skin on an already established game
1:06:43
right um because you're still playing on the purple playmat it's it
1:06:48
doesn't it doesn't really feel like it's so bringing anything Buffy to to life
1:06:55
yeah so it didn't improve the game any and it and it the way it handled The
1:06:59
Buffy stuff was a little weird mhm yeah fair for True Buffy fan definitely not
1:07:05
the way to go no but if you want a legendary card game because essentially
1:07:09
all the legendary card games whether it's alien firsts president sorry alien
1:07:14
vers I would play that alien firsts president is a really good Independence
1:07:19
Day um alien verse Predator uh Firefly Marvel Buffy you know they're all all
1:07:25
legendary games they all use the same core mechanic so it's it's picking kind
1:07:31
of the theme that you enjoy the most uh Marvel has by far the most expansions
1:07:36
for it so if you want to get a game that has continuation and more variability in
1:07:42
it probably that'd be the Marvel game but if you're not if you love Buffy but
1:07:46
maybe not Jenna love Buffy that could be the way to go sure look if you love
1:07:52
Buffy I have another Buffy board game or if you Felicia Day it is much much
1:07:56
better oh yeah if you love Felicia Day maybe both is the way to go there's like
1:08:00
a 100 cards with her face on them I feel like if you love Felicia Day this
1:08:04
podcast is not for you all right Luke loves Felicia Day
1:08:10
he's he's literally on this podcast most of the time I I like Felicia
1:08:16
Day o oh [ __ ] was it do I need to take
1:08:19
that back no all right I I've met
1:08:24
Felicia Day I got trouble off Luke for talking to her because he told me I
1:08:28
wasn't allowed to talk I guess it's just me [Laughter]
1:08:34
guys Jenna at multipl nerd.com
1:08:39
so that concludes our uh a Felicia Day episode of uh theer
1:08:46
podcast and also the PX East wrap up for this year I believe we saw a lot of
1:08:50
stuff like so much stuff and I'm sure we've left little things out here and
1:08:54
there you know we saw performance by Darren Corb and uh and a string quartet
1:08:59
which was really fantastic an amazing Warrior Waluigi cosplay uh that was you
1:09:05
see that on the Instagram that was fantastic uh it's a great weekend Oh
1:09:11
speaking of the cosplay I'm going to be honest I was I was not overly impressed
1:09:15
like I normally am with the cosplay yeah I liked that Indiana Jones
1:09:21
that we saw when there was Indiana Jones and dressed as the boulder following her around
1:09:26
that's Indiana Jones well guys if you're listening to this send us an email let
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1:09:55
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1:09:58
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listening and uh and if you were at PAX
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East uh we hope you had a good show A++ wood packs again well
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