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- 0:12SEC media recap. Yes, I am home, I am not there no
- 0:15more. We're gonna talk about that and a few other things here all the
- 0:18Sooner or Later Sports Show. Thank out for pulling up. I'm your host,
- 0:21Jay. Thanks for coming here on the YouTube channel and listening wherever A
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- 0:29subscribe rate review, give us five stars. You don't think you deserve it,
- 0:33Give us five anyway and gifted. So go today's episode of The Sooner
- 0:38or Later Sports Show. Me and Coop's gonna dive into a few topics around
- 0:42the SEC media days, like comments from the coaches as well. Let's give
- 0:46a critique of what we thought about Brent Vndable's keynote speech. We're also gonna
- 0:50talk about what Billy Bowman, Danny Stutsman, and Jackson Arnold had to say.
- 0:55Also ask the question to answer it is Jackson Arnold gonna be ready to
- 0:59come in season. Talk a little bit about recruiting, because of course,
- 1:02some news is starting to slowly come down the line, So hit us up
- 1:06on the unfair fan line four three zero nine zero one one nine zero six
- 1:10and let us not to think the show give Strump's opinions. Maybe one day
- 1:15I'm gonna start doing a call in y'all can like, we'll play the messages
- 1:18back, but hit us up four three zero nine zero one one nine oh
- 1:23and six Coop Happy Wednesday. Man, how you doing doing good? Brother?
- 1:29Doing good? Many. I got to give you a little little little
- 1:32props. Man, did great job out there in uh the old Dallas,
- 1:36Texas with the SEC media days and uh, man, I just man,
- 1:42you did, you did great and I'm seeing some of your stuff all over
- 1:44everywhere. Man, I appreciate that. Man. It's uh, it was
- 1:48very convenient that it was literally up the street, round the corner that I
- 1:51could just hop in the car and drive there. Three hour drive getting down
- 1:55there. Of course, as everybody knows, that's from OKC area, four
- 1:57hours from told some being able to be down there and being the environment,
- 2:00it was pretty dope. Man. Shout out to Locked on podcast Network.
- 2:05They were the ones that were able to get me in there, after me
- 2:07going through multiple avenues and asking multiple people and begging multiple folks to make it
- 2:14happen and no one could, and they were able to make it happen.
- 2:16So joining locked On Sooners was probably a good blessing in that capacity, and
- 2:21it's gonna get us a lot more access and stuff that we can do.
- 2:23But it was really cool, man Like, if you've listened to Oh You
- 2:27Insider or Sooner Scoop or so Sooners Illustrated, they've all basically talked about how
- 2:32massive it is and the in comparison to how what it was with the Big
- 2:38Twelve. Right. Big twelve media day last year in Dallas area was typically
- 2:43in Dallas area, but they usually have it on the field at Jerry's Circus
- 2:46right at the Jerry's World at at and T Stadium, but this one they
- 2:51had it in the Omni Downtown. It was a very nice setup. They
- 2:54had it all broken off, so it was pretty legit there. Twelve hundred
- 2:59plus credentials were given out, which is like more than double than what you
- 3:04got from the Big Twelve. And of course we all know this year they
- 3:07did everything in Vegas right at Allegiance, which is really weird. They basically
- 3:13went to the home of the now dead Pac twelve and at the meeting.
- 3:17But I guess it's probably the one place that everybody could easily fly to that's
- 3:22not Dallas, so I guess it makes sense. But no, it was
- 3:29everything. Like I saw a bunch of folks. I got to shake Josh
- 3:31Paid's hand, and these staples, JD. Pequel, You saw the big
- 3:35names. Paul Fine bomb walked by me a couple of times. Todd Gurley
- 3:38was running around in a baked bean shirt. It was pretty interesting to see
- 3:43that because he was part of the he was the celebrity in town to talk
- 3:46about that. But overall, man, dang good time. It was definitely
- 3:52worth being there. So in the future we'll get us there, we'll do
- 3:54more and make more happen. But yeah, so besides that, Coop,
- 4:00did you get to check out any of the any of the press conferences or
- 4:08whatnot. Yeah, I watched a bunch of them, obviously, Uh,
- 4:12you being there live and in person. Uh, you know, hitting us
- 4:15up with some good content, but a lot of good stuff caught. Josh
- 4:18Heipel, Brent Venables did a great job, you know, Sarkesian did a
- 4:23decent job too. You know, I'll give them credit. And it's it's
- 4:27July. That's when Texas does good things. So uh, you know,
- 4:30gotta gotta say that, you know, i'd like to hear uh, you
- 4:33know, Jeff Levy, uh, you know, just giving a lot of
- 4:35props out to Brent vnables it. I didn't hear very many shots fired.
- 4:41And you know, from a coaching perspective, so that was that that that
- 4:45surprises me. You know, there were a couple of coaches who might have
- 4:49been stretching the truth, the tiny bits, no no pointing fingers. Brian
- 4:54Kelly, uh, because you know, we we we kind of know what
- 5:00we're looking at. And so you know when he said the and Jacob I
- 5:02think brought it up already here in the chat that you know, he said
- 5:06the deepest team. Okay, I mean, sure, why not. Let's
- 5:11uh, I'll take your word for it. But if I lost a we've
- 5:15lost a Heisman and a couple of wide receivers here recently, and so we
- 5:17know what that looks like the next year. And uh, you know,
- 5:20I know nes Meyer is going to be a great quarterback, but I mean,
- 5:24you lost you know, somebody who could have been potentially the number one
- 5:28draft pick. And uh, you know the receiver factory that they've been pumping
- 5:31out, you know, Neighbors is one that they're gonna miss too, So
- 5:35we'll we'll we'll see what that looks like. But yeah, it was,
- 5:38it was great. Got to hear you know, I like some of the
- 5:41stuff with Billy Bowman, you know your question of Billy uh and Jackson Dart
- 5:46that that conversation. I like to see Billy, you know, giving props
- 5:49out to Jada, So you know that was great too. But just a
- 5:54lot of good content. Oh yeah, and we'll talk about all of those
- 5:57comments and stuff from the players in a moment. The start off with the
- 6:00coaches, and that's a question actually popped up here. Jacob popped in the
- 6:02comments. What's going on? Hey toe for Hey Lemon, Hey Steve,
- 6:08Hey everybody for pulling up as you always do. But Jacob asked his question
- 6:13about LSU similar to kind of what you alluded to. You know, how
- 6:15can anyone explain how LSU is gonna be good? And why Brian Kelly said
- 6:19their team this year is the defense he's had. Isn't their defense awful?
- 6:23And they lost a Heisman, quarter QB and two extremely good receivers. That's
- 6:30one hundred percent fair point. The only pushback I would give and kind of
- 6:33give props to Brian Kelly. He replaced that defensive coordinator who was really bad
- 6:38last year. Right, He brought in Blake Baker, who coached at Missouri
- 6:43last year when Missouri had a pretty decent defense, And they brought back Corey
- 6:46Redman who just landed a freaking five star plus corner and DJ was a picket
- 6:51today. Right, So the defensive line coach, they brought in Bo Davis
- 6:59from So if there's anything I'm gonna say about the defenses in about a year,
- 7:04they're gonna be a problem, right, Bo Davis has already got people
- 7:08to commit there that was supposed to go to Texas or whatnot. He's flipping
- 7:12people like crazy and bringing people with them. Guess I don't know about this
- 7:16year's defense. Their defensive line is really young, so they're gonna have They're
- 7:20gonna they got a lot of work to do there. I mean, Harold
- 7:23Perkins is still there, but I think Blake Baker's gonna use him a hell
- 7:27of a lot different than the way that he was used last year. Yes,
- 7:30Now, offensively, I am at the exact same point of trying to
- 7:33question, Look, you lost some really good two really good receivers and a
- 7:38Heisman Trophy winning quarterback nuss Meyer's probably gonna be solid. I still gotta see
- 7:43it, right, we still gotta see it. No different than what I
- 7:46would say about Jackson Arnold. We'll get into that in a minute, but
- 7:48yeah, but that's what I gotta see it. So they're deeper than what
- 7:54they were before. They've got a lot of young players. Next year,
- 7:59Yeah, they're going to be a problem this year. We'll see what Blake
- 8:03can make happen. Which thing, Yeah, definitely, bo Davis is a
- 8:07big pick because you know that that you know, typically when somebody loves Texas,
- 8:13they you know, they're usually getting fired. But this was an upgrade
- 8:16for LSU and so you know that that's a great pick. I mean,
- 8:20pulling over the Missouri d C. I mean, he made a lot of
- 8:24noise last year, so that I mean, those are good things. But
- 8:26yeah, if you pull in Dominic McKinley, uh, you know that that's
- 8:31that's that's one brother, that's one dude who is going to show out.
- 8:35And so that would be like us having you know, our defensive line from
- 8:39a couple of years back and then just bringing in David Stone. You know,
- 8:43that's just not going to do it enough. I mean we've got Stone
- 8:46and Jackson mixed in with Dominic Williams. Did you you see you see Coach
- 8:52Landers put out that Dominic Williams squat video. I mean, boy side side
- 8:58tangent. I think he had two different buildings on each side of the bar.
- 9:01Uh bar the bar was on the struggle bus. But I mean,
- 9:05you know it takes more. It takes more than one dude. But LSU
- 9:09is going to uh, they're gonna look they're gonna look different next year.
- 9:13This year, you know, we do get them the last game of the
- 9:16season. So if they stay healthy, that's you know, they it's gonna
- 9:18be a tough game because they're going to be it's gonna be at their crib.
- 9:22It's probably gonna be at night, and they're going to have you know
- 9:24who they are at that point is pretty much going to be locked up and
- 9:28secure. No, I agree with you a hundred percent there, it's it's
- 9:31yeah, yeah, the yeah, We'll just leave it at that. But
- 9:37uh, but as you mentioned earlier, the shots fired or none none shots
- 9:46fire they came from there was was pretty fascinating, right. You didn't hear
- 9:50really any of the coaches anything native Tomorrow. We got one more day,
- 9:54so Thursday things could and if you're listening to this on Thursday throughout that day,
- 9:58you'll have the other guys. But but it was, it was.
- 10:01What was funny to me was there was a lot of crossing in There are
- 10:05people that have crossed and worked with or been around either Sarkeesian or Vinibles,
- 10:13which I thought was, you know, pretty pretty pretty fascinating in a way.
- 10:16And Brian Kelly gave praise to you know, Venables. Kirby Smart talked
- 10:20about how Oklahoma's in the right direction and he sees that defensively, they're gonna
- 10:24be They're gonna be a problem. Shout out to Kirby. The funny thing
- 10:30is is there's a lot of fans We'll say it this way, the fans
- 10:35of opposing teams have questions about what Oklahoma's gonna look like. They're the ones
- 10:41that think Oklahoma's gonna be super mediocre. But when you start listening to the
- 10:45national media talk about Oklahoma, the only concern they have it is a concern.
- 10:50It's not a question, it's a concern. It's a schedule because of
- 10:54how it's perceived to be grueling, but all of them know Oklahoma is on
- 11:01the right trajectory. We still got the questions online, questions at quarterback,
- 11:07but that's it. If those, as we have talked about numerous times,
- 11:11those show up, Yeah, this season is not gonna be anything that people
- 11:16won't expect. I even had a Texas fan jump in the comments today of
- 11:20my last video from media days and he said, Hey, I hate to
- 11:22say this is a long corn fan, but y'all got it good being able
- 11:26to come under the radar. A lot of people are really doubting you in
- 11:28a way that they probably shouldn't. I was like, good, a respectable
- 11:33fan, totally agree with that. Look at that. No, it's and
- 11:37we've gone over the schedule at nauseam. Like the way it's set up.
- 11:41Yeah, the last push is going to be it's gonna be grilling to be
- 11:46it's gonna be tough, and I think super Cowboys just said in the shot
- 11:48like if you make it through that and end up going to the conference championship
- 11:54game, then you get thrown in just another one right there. So I
- 11:58mean everybody's gonna pencil in joy. But again, it's it's I think that
- 12:03Brent Vinnables can use every single bit of this stuff that's that's out there,
- 12:07and but you know it's it's there wasn't any trash talking, because I don't
- 12:11think anybody else needs a anybody else wants to fire up another team, especially
- 12:18when you don't really know what's coming in from, you know, Texas and
- 12:22Oklahoma. But you know, the only thing that people really chalked up to
- 12:28trash talking was Harold Perkins talking about was it Danny Stutsman and and I don't
- 12:35think that was trash talk. I think that he just was He was just
- 12:39saying something along the lines of, you know, it's like, I don't
- 12:41know who that is. Like, I mean, he's a defender talking about
- 12:43another defender. He focuses on his game and that's all. He puts his
- 12:48head down and just does his stuff. So he you know, he may
- 12:52not know who Danny Stutsman is, just just being honest with you. I'm
- 12:56pretty sure that a lot of folks in Louisiana aren't thinking about Oklahoma as much
- 12:58as we are. Well, if you think about it, when is he
- 13:01had to scheme for Oklahoma yet? Right, we don't play until the last
- 13:05game of the season, So I totally understand why he wouldn't know about Dandy
- 13:13and why he would say who is that? Because he's a defensive player and
- 13:16he's playing and then we were talking about another defensive player, like they're not
- 13:20scheming against each other, No, they ain't paying attention to each other,
- 13:22right, and and Harrold Perkins, genuinely, what I've heard about him is
- 13:26you're the kind of just focuses on football. He doesn't really you know,
- 13:30he doesn't do You don't hear him really talking much. He's pretty straightforward and
- 13:35just calm with all of it. And so yeah, it felt genuine that
- 13:39he probably didn't know, and that's fine. He'll learn on the field whenever
- 13:43he hears the name called over and over for tackles and be like, day,
- 13:46who's it? This? That? So that's the dude that everybody's been
- 13:52nice. We were gonna gut him on our team. Can we get him
- 13:54a transfer? But but no, Yeah, like those questions were always fascinating.
- 13:58It's especially when it comes to college guys. Because I say it this
- 14:01way, and this is kind of my last piece on now, I want
- 14:03to talk about some of these quotes that have come down. The line is
- 14:09I would be concerned if any of my defensive players, actually any of my
- 14:15players were molding their game after somebody that's still in college. I would prefer
- 14:20you to watch the pros because if your goal is to go pro, want
- 14:24you to play like the guys that got to the one percent, not like
- 14:26the dudes that are still in college. Right unless they're your teammate. Right,
- 14:30there's a teammate that you're trying to get you're growing under. That's a
- 14:33different story. But opposing guys, now focus on the NFL dudes to the
- 14:37place you want to go. That way, you can try to you can
- 14:41shoot for the star, you know, shoot from the moon, or you
- 14:43to miss, you'll land in the stars type deal. Right, all right?
- 14:46They got for pulling up as usual, Hit that like button, wipe
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- 14:52version of the show, rate review, give us five stars. You don't
- 14:56think we deserve it, just give us five anyway and gifted. So cope,
- 15:01it's talk of somebody's coaching statements. Right, So, Jeff Lebby and
- 15:03Josh Hipel got the opportunity to talk over the last two days. Leby was
- 15:07today Hypel was yet it was yesterday, right before Oklahoma, and it was
- 15:11very interesting. You know. Of course, like I said, there's a
- 15:15lot of crossing here right, Leby and Hypel played while Venables was here,
- 15:20and you know, crossing paths as coaches and staff. At one point they
- 15:26were staff, they were co workers in some capacity, and I like,
- 15:31how let's talk about Leby first. Levy of course, you know, says
- 15:35that you know, he's indebted to Venables for allowing him to come here.
- 15:39But the one thing that interests me the most was his statement of he got
- 15:45to watch a guy be a first time head coach and build a program.
- 15:50So my question for you, Coop, is is that's gonna is that gonna
- 15:54be a good way for Leby to try to jumpstart himself there in Mississippi State.
- 16:00Yeah, it is. You know, he's going to take that respect
- 16:03factor. He needs to keep that lifeline because even though they're playing in the
- 16:07same conference right now, you don't want to burn that bridge and go back.
- 16:11Levy. I promise you. Levy understands the you know, the turmoil
- 16:15that happened between Hypool and you know coach Stoops, and he sees just you
- 16:21know, how that could you know, kind of take something away from these
- 16:26these guys. I mean, there's very very few times that coaches actually hate
- 16:29each other, and and so Levy, you know, we we all know
- 16:33that there were a lot of folks, you know, not too sad to
- 16:37see Levy go this year. But if Levy wants to reach out and you
- 16:44know, ask Brent Vitibles about certain things, he's going to have that available
- 16:48still. And you know, it's it's not really becoming of him to go
- 16:53in and you know, talk trash about Venables or say something bad about Venables
- 16:57or anything like that, because he he gains nothing out of that, and
- 17:00you want to be able to just to you know, take take care of
- 17:03those relationships because you never know when uh SEC turns out coaches pretty frequently,
- 17:11and you know, I think that Teddy brought that up and rolled up everybody's
- 17:15everybody's feathers over there in Louisiana and across the SEC. But you know,
- 17:18there's one coach that has an SEC championship, and that's Kirby Smart. And
- 17:22outside of Kirby Smart, I think Kirby and Mark Stoups are the you know,
- 17:26only people with four years or plus you know experience. So Levy may
- 17:32need to find himself another job at some point and he could go on to
- 17:36Mississippi State blow that thing up and it could be it could be terrific.
- 17:40But if he does need something and he needs, you know, a spot
- 17:45to come and really hang out, then then that's going to be something that
- 17:49you burgs. You don't want to burn him. No, that's true.
- 17:53And you you see that because the one thing is as mentioned in the past,
- 18:00is you know that, uh that coaching school of Rehabilitation and Nick Sable
- 18:04was running, a lot of these coaches recognized that if you lose your job,
- 18:08you may you may holle at somebody. Yeah right, so yeah,
- 18:12that's Levy ain't got too many other folks he can go holler at right now,
- 18:17you know, everybody else in his you know kind of coaching tree is
- 18:21you know that those those leaves are withering so or they just straight dead.
- 18:26And you got to look at Shane Beemer. You know, I'd say that
- 18:29he let it off the whole the whole week with you know, just massive
- 18:32amount of praise for Oklahoma. So just uh, you want to be careful
- 18:37with how you say that because now that you can have four hundred and seventy
- 18:41three coaches on your staff or analyst or whatever. You know, he may
- 18:45need to come back. And also, you know, he may want to
- 18:48ask Brent Vinibles about, you know something one of the opponents. If we
- 18:52just get done with Auburn and they're going to go play Auburn, he might
- 18:56reach out and say, hey, that did that give you guys fits?
- 18:59Like how how did you guys look at that? How'd you guys overcome that?
- 19:00And Venables is going to be a guy who's going to be able to
- 19:04you know, I think he takes that cost still, I know I agree
- 19:07with you on that. He definitely would and I think Hypel would have.
- 19:10He would for Hypel as well. And so of course Hypel talked about working
- 19:14with Brin Vinibles and it's funny. The biggest thing that he was kind of
- 19:18into was talking about all of the media members that now have come back in
- 19:23his face because he hasn't seen the Oklahoma media in years, right, Yeah,
- 19:27since he's been God's been with at least ten years, and so,
- 19:30you know, getting to reconnect with some of them and everything. But I
- 19:34really jumped on and gravitated today Kirby smart quote right when he's talking about Brin
- 19:40Vinibles is getting the defense on point. And there's a very good chance that
- 19:45you know that Oklahoma's defense is going to be really good, if not now,
- 19:48but definitely in time. I ain't a lot. That's pretty freaking legit
- 19:56that the top defensive guy in the country is saying that about Venom. So
- 20:02if if you need it to be more bullish, ladies and gentlemen, that
- 20:04is the read. That's why your boy here's hardcore about that. That's why
- 20:08your boy here has been talking it up because the anticipation is even though I
- 20:15don't know if y'all sin it, I need to actually upload the videos of
- 20:18all the interviews I did and the responses I got from folks. That'll happen
- 20:22probably tonight, be loaded up for some time tomorrow. But yeah, Venables
- 20:29gave me like a five minute lecture on my question and I had to I
- 20:34apologize to all of the insiders and they laughed at me. He's like,
- 20:37dog, you're good. Ain't nothing you could do about that. But yeah,
- 20:41that's definitely something you don't do. You don't have Brent Vinables compare players.
- 20:42You don't have compare eras you don't have him compare you know, anything
- 20:48like that, anything on paper, because he's gonna tell you about how they're
- 20:51gonna have to work for it, and he goes on a tangent. You
- 20:52know, we all know that Vinables has a tendency of going but I'm gonna
- 20:56be honest as we talk about him now. I thought he was very good
- 21:00in his presser, right. I know the Texas fans are very excited about
- 21:04Sark and the way that he presented himself as well. And I feel like
- 21:07both of them did a really good job for walking into the sec and being
- 21:11able to handle the questions because again someone mentioned here in the comments, literally
- 21:17the question was you're gonna be sec rating. It's like we here now,
- 21:21I hope so at this point, right, am I crazy? But why
- 21:23are we getting this question now so much? Because because that's the thing.
- 21:29Vinables got it, and every coach after before and after Venables and Sart got
- 21:33the same question. Do you think Oklahoma and Texas gonna be ready coming into
- 21:37the conference? What are we? What do we? What do we?
- 21:41Why are we bringing this? Why are we attacking that? That? In
- 21:44horns Down, I was really getting tired of horns down. I'm gonna be
- 21:47honest, like it was getting old, Like come on, now it is
- 21:51well and Saban started off the whole week we're talking about Oklahoma, and I'll
- 21:56take it as a semi shot at Lincoln Riley because you know, he said,
- 22:02you know, they've always had these great prolific offenses, but the defense
- 22:06wasn't there. And now that's that's hitting in the right direction too. And
- 22:10if anybody can say that, I mean, he had Kyler Murray and the
- 22:11Sooners down twenty eight to nothing, so I mean, you know, he
- 22:15he recognizes that. So but it is it is an emphasis. It is
- 22:21something that that Venables has been working on since he arrived on campus. Was
- 22:26getting the he said it himself, they were the right people on the bus
- 22:30and in the right seats, and that, you know, that goes from
- 22:33you know, having a guy like David Aguebu who you know probably should have
- 22:36been playing defensive end instead outside linebacker, Jonah Llalu the same type of situation,
- 22:41you know, outside linebacker, then he goes into the defensive tackle.
- 22:45So you know, I hope that I hope that the fans, you know,
- 22:49listen to Garby Smart and Nick Saban when we realized that, Like listen,
- 22:55ou is pointing in the right direction. And year three, I think
- 22:57this is one of the big things that you've been bullish on, Jay is.
- 23:00Year three is going to be something special because you now have guys who
- 23:06can play freely and you saw jump from Stutsman last year. Guys should have
- 23:10won the buckuts. But you don't get I mean, you got it.
- 23:14You gotta be extraordinary to go from you are on one of the worst defenses
- 23:18in college football to winning the buckets the next year. I mean, you
- 23:22that defense better like go from the bottom to the top, or you gotta
- 23:26have like four hundred and fifty tackles because that that's just gonna be a hard
- 23:30piece in the optics is you know, let's see it again. But Stutsman
- 23:33now has that platform to kind of take off on and with a you know,
- 23:37I'm being a big baseball guy. It's strength up the middle and it
- 23:42is absolute, absolute up the middle. Is you know you Dominic Williams,
- 23:48DJ Terry uh, you know Stutsman, Kip Lewis, Kannick and you know
- 23:55all the way to Bowman, RSJ and Bowen that that that is going to
- 23:59be the strength of your defense right there. Yeah. And the good thing
- 24:03is is, you know, I talked about it one of my videos with
- 24:06Phil Steele. He has our linebacker and our secondary as the number two linebacker
- 24:11group and the number two secondary group in the country, which makes us number
- 24:15one in the SEC. And all we got to do is make sure that
- 24:17defensive line shows out, which we expected. You know, we're still growing,
- 24:22still learning, but I do have the same I do believe that we'll
- 24:26that defensive line is going to definitely surprise a lot of people. We won't
- 24:30see a lot of max protect we'll see a lot of three hundred pounders,
- 24:33but I think we can we can get some of those around. But the
- 24:36interesting thing too, was with the excitement of being at the SEC media days
- 24:42and having both teams there and everyone asking the same questions over and over,
- 24:47at a certain point, the dumbest question I heard was, I'm not sure
- 24:52who it was. I need to go back and rewatch the video so I
- 24:53can find the name, just so I can call them out specifically. At
- 24:56some point. We'll do that a little bit later, but before I jump
- 25:00into what was said, they got for pulling up as usual, hit the
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- 25:11we deserve it. Give us five anyway and gifted. Somebody from the media
- 25:15Coop asked this question. They asked Brent Vnables about recruiting against Texas A and
- 25:22m Arkansas now that they're in the SEC, now that we're in the SEC
- 25:26and Louisiana Lu's hit Coop cool. Now I heard it. I was gonna
- 25:34tweet it out, but I was like, I'm not. I'm not.
- 25:38Just as y'all know, I'm a fan who got lucky enough to get a
- 25:42credential. I am not a reporter, so I don't need to report.
- 25:45I've reported on the funny stuff, especially when Kirby Smart was taking shot to
- 25:48Nick Saban, who was literally across the room looking at him, when he
- 25:52said, Hey, I got in here with a credential. I tell you
- 25:55know, I walked in. I did need a credential, and then he
- 25:56looked over it. Uh, Nick Saban. Nick Saban turned and around and
- 26:00just looked at him. He started smiling. I was I was talking about
- 26:03the funny stuff that was happening and then drink saying the really weird thing about
- 26:07S T I S. But we'll talk about that just a second. But
- 26:11no, they asked him about recruiting against Arkansas and Texas, A and M
- 26:15and L s U. Now we're in then cc bruh. Did he not
- 26:18realize that we've been getting national players for years? It's I mean, who
- 26:26where where two of the top three players in Arkansas? Where they go?
- 26:32Oh? Oklahoma? Okay, okay, all right, Dominic Williams. I'm
- 26:38pretty sure that last visit was in L. S U. Yep yep,
- 26:42yep, yep, yep, ye ye ye yep. And shout out to
- 26:45coach Landers and and and and uh and dom and the family. I mean,
- 26:49listen, they came here because Todd Bates and because the minds on the
- 26:53defensive side. So yeah, I mean, when people do your research,
- 26:59you know, listen, if you're in truth. I saw your comment in
- 27:03here. I love you, brother, but man, when I throw bows
- 27:07at Texas, it's mostly at your your content people who are absolute fluff,
- 27:11you know, head in the sand guys. And I don't understand, you
- 27:15know, And I'm not going to throw any large individuals under the bus right
- 27:18now, because the bus's got to drive other places. But you know,
- 27:22they're some of these guys are just out there and they can report on their
- 27:26own team, but they don't. They don't look at anything else. They
- 27:30don't look anywhere else at all. And so for you to come out here,
- 27:33I mean, Oklahoma and Texas for that matter, has recruited the whole
- 27:37damn country for years, for years. Texas doesn't end up in the top
- 27:42ten almost every single year because Texas is just so full of talent, which
- 27:47it is, it's the biggest one. But Oklahoma has Listen, we ain't
- 27:52fielding eighty five okies. Listen, if we want a land run, let's
- 27:57get eighty five okies. But we wanted we hit the best of the best
- 28:00from a lot of different places. I just right. I mean it's been
- 28:06it for the year. I mean for years and years and years. And
- 28:07that is everybody. That is Lincoln Riley, that is Brent Vinnables, that
- 28:11is Bob Stoops. So do your homework, chief, and you know,
- 28:17go through take a little look. So and said, is that now in
- 28:21California? Yeah, so yeah, yeah, well yeah, And the guy
- 28:25in California said, you can't recruit to Oklahoma get national talent. I mean,
- 28:27we've got three straight top ten classes. So look, my whole thing
- 28:32with it is this. It frightening as you know, you know, you
- 28:34know, you to homie you come in here. And I've said it before,
- 28:37Texas has a reason to be bullish about their squad as well. They're
- 28:41returning all their offensive linemen and the starting quarterback that's been there three years underneath
- 28:44Sarkisian, which is a great thing for sark to have a guy that's been
- 28:48around that long, right three years in you have the same dude. That's
- 28:52something to be bullish about. So I have no issue with Texas fans and
- 28:56Texas being bullish about their team. You better be right national media wise,
- 29:03when you're supposed to look at the big picture, they're gonna be bullish because
- 29:07of the offensive line, the quarterback. My thing has always been about,
- 29:10you know, with us, that's what they're saying, Oh, that's what
- 29:11the weak point for Oklahoma, But they're not looking at the thing that the
- 29:15SEC is infamous for his defense. It's funny. I did a few hits
- 29:18over the last few days and for those that you know, don't know the
- 29:22termina terminology the uninitiated. I did some radio spots. I talked on the
- 29:27radio, a couple of radio shows, a couple of YouTube channels, and
- 29:30I was on the news station in Montgomery this morning talking, oh you.
- 29:37I'll make sure to drop that in the comments so y'all can check it out.
- 29:40It was pretty good, little fun segment. We talked to OU Texas.
- 29:42We talked, oh you coming to SEC, why we're prepared, offense,
- 29:47defense, et cetera, so on and so forth. But what was
- 29:56not really looked at in the commonversation around OU. And that's why his question
- 30:02to me was so darn dumb. It's people not realizing that we have done
- 30:07the national recruiting thing for a very long time. We have a very high
- 30:12blue chip ratio. Right, So the thought that things were gonna be just
- 30:22so tough for Oklahoma and Texas coming into the SEC as if the only schools
- 30:29that's out recruited them has been Alabama and Georgia occasionally LSU randomly with Texas,
- 30:36A and M, but ain't a single team else in the SEC has out
- 30:41recruited Oklahoma and Texas outside of those, right, Oklahoma Texas would be top
- 30:47five every year in the SEC and recruiting. That's that's factual. That's not
- 30:52even hyperbole. That's not no bs. You don't have to factual. You
- 31:00don't have to look through the roster. I mean, you got Florida,
- 31:03Indiana, Las Vegas, Maryland. You know, there's some Texas, there's
- 31:07California, Michigan, California. So I mean that is on starting with she
- 31:15number one endings. Yeah, I mean that's the top like ten to fifteen
- 31:19guys on the roster that I just pulled up. So it's listen, do
- 31:23your homework, buddy, and as soon as you're done, we'll let you
- 31:27come in hang out with the adults. Yeah. That'st thing that bothered me
- 31:30so much was like, guys, guys, just do just a ounce of
- 31:34it, an ounce of the research to understand where Oklahoma and where where Texas
- 31:42is set. And so with that, when I'm talking about how Texas should
- 31:48be bullish and Oklahoma while I'm bullish because of our defense in the SEC.
- 31:52When I did those hits for the Auburn folks, very fascinating. He had
- 31:56a conversation, cool, do you know how many three thousand yard pastors they've
- 32:00had in Auburn history. I'm gonna go with zero very close. They've had
- 32:12two. Who did Cam go over? Nope, And I was gonna say
- 32:15he had like twenty eight hundred twenty nine hundred because he also had like fifteen
- 32:19hundre ye Russian rushing yards, right, he ran for another fifteen hundred yards.
- 32:22They've had two in history. I was cheating. I was sitting around
- 32:25the table with Auburn media guys. They were talking about that, you know,
- 32:30they're talking about with Hugh Freeze and their gold with paid thorn to get
- 32:32him those yards and everything. They said, we gotta get to three thousand
- 32:35yard pastor blah blah blah. And I'm like, oh, man, I
- 32:37say, man, this is a crazy perspective in just hearing this in comparison
- 32:40to us now, Like, really, why you say that. I'm like,
- 32:45I don't think we've had a year where we didn't have We probably had
- 32:47maybe two years in the last twenty years where we didn't have a three thousand
- 32:52yard passer and that's just probably me guesstimate on an injury. Potentially somewhere eight
- 32:58thousand yard Russians. We had easy with two thousand yard rushers and I think
- 33:01Sam Bradford had four thousand yards eight year two passing. No, Like,
- 33:07man, I bet that was fun. I bet that was a good time
- 33:12to watch. I was like, yeah, it was. It was fun
- 33:14football. It was a great time in twenty ten and twenty thirteen or the
- 33:19two seasons that Auburn had three thousand yards passing. Ain't that wild to just
- 33:27think about that? Right? Not really, because I mean I still remember
- 33:30the days of Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, you know, those where you
- 33:35got those those that's where Auburn really had made their juice was a stubborn defense,
- 33:40you know, a quarterback who made plays when he had to, and
- 33:44then a running game that was gonna light you up. And so but and
- 33:47you know it's not too it's not doesn't blow my mind that it was.
- 33:51Jeane Chiswick and Gus Malzan were the two coaches that were there when they had
- 33:53those three thousand yard passing. So but yeah, I mean you got to
- 33:58go back to the quarterback carousel of Cody Thomas, Trevor Knight, Blake Bell.
- 34:05I'm pretty sure that some folks from the stands got to play quarterback that
- 34:07year. But I mean that might be it, or maybe the Boumart the
- 34:12Beaumart year mayai the only ones. I'd have to go back and look,
- 34:16but yeah, I mean just to ou fans would lose their ever loving minds
- 34:21if we threw out a year where it was like twenty eight hundred yards yep,
- 34:28And that's that was the point was. It's like we you see,
- 34:30that was the eight and four years. So yes, I'm pulling up five
- 34:37right now because I'm actually now curious. Baumart threw for two thousand yards that
- 34:40year, you know five. That was a rough That was a rough year.
- 34:45That was six. Pauled through for twenty six hundred yards, so he
- 34:49didn't hit the three thousand mark. And then we got back to it with
- 34:52Sam Bradford the next year. But pt came in, you know the year,
- 34:55you know that year and did what he does best. He stepped up
- 35:00up to the tipped up to the match. But he also had Adrian Peterson
- 35:02run the ball for him, but rage Adrian got hurt. So it was
- 35:06wild years. Just the fact that three thousand is like, I mean,
- 35:10Sam threw for forty seven hundred yards in his Heisman year and we had Chris
- 35:14Brown and DeMarco Murray both run four thousand yards. Yeah, gosh, that
- 35:19O eight team should have done so much better. So many teams, so
- 35:22many teams that we had. That was anyway, if you ever want to
- 35:28start a running back returning kicks, just remember, just remember, Oh my
- 35:35gosh. Anyway, thank God for pulling up. Hit that like button.
- 35:37New to the channel. Subscribe if you're listening to the audio version of Rate
- 35:40Review. Give us five stars. All right, Coop, let's talk a
- 35:45little recruiting right as everybody knows. You see here in the chat TOEFERD dropped
- 35:51the bomb for us that populated not too long ago, and I dropped it
- 35:53also in the discord. We just got a crystal ball for Floyd Bucard,
- 35:58the defensive tackle, the composite three star out of Miami. He's probably one
- 36:04of the more upside defensive linemen. And he's actually someone that Coop had a
- 36:10conversation with. So Coop, let's talk about that conversation you had that as
- 36:16a Rivals four star, he considered a top twenty defensive tackle if it's a
- 36:20lineman in the country. The Rivals three star overall, you know, but
- 36:23he comes in at six two and a half six three three fifteen like today,
- 36:28he's gonna walk in it over three hundred and he's from Canada. Coop,
- 36:34you had this man on a call with you while he's at the airport.
- 36:37He said, Hey, man, I'm gonna call you right now.
- 36:37Let's talk about it. Now, talk to me about that interview. I
- 36:42mean, but Carter's a great kid. Uh. This guy wants to build
- 36:45a legacy, and that is the uh. I mean, that's the number
- 36:50one thing. If you watch the interview, he wasn't as glowing about Oklahoma.
- 36:54And just to be honest with you, I mean, just when I'm
- 36:58talking to some of these these guys, like I'm not I'm not pimping Oklahoma,
- 37:02Like I really do want to find out a little bit more about them
- 37:05now if I feel like they're going to be a big Oklahoma lean, you
- 37:07know, that helps out. But dude didn't even realize I was an Oklahoma
- 37:12guy until we got off the interview. And so so that was, you
- 37:16know, that was something there. He is committing on the twentieth, which
- 37:20is is that Saturday or Sunday? Saturday? It's Saturday, so it is
- 37:23Saturday. If I find a time, maybe we may go live. If
- 37:27I'm around, we may go live for that would I got nothing Saturday?
- 37:31This is hot. When it's this hot, outsider to try to stay inside.
- 37:35Absolutely, But but no, he is You look at the offer list.
- 37:39Don't look at the stars on this cat. You know, I think
- 37:42his Twitter says ten star. He you know, he calls himself a ten
- 37:45star. He is a Haitian background out of Canada, you know, was
- 37:50playing hockey and soccer and then somebody, you know, his cousin got him
- 37:53to go and start to play football, and so I think his cousin did
- 37:59it right. And so, uh, this is a kid who I've been
- 38:02pretty pretty calm about his ending up at Oklahoma because I thought that because of
- 38:13him wanting to take care of his family and wanting to be there, I
- 38:15thought the nil piece was going to be pretty important for him. But you
- 38:19look at his offer list. I mean, kids got like forty some odd
- 38:21offers. Everybody who was anybody wanted him at you know, once time last
- 38:25week it was ou USC for some reason, Alabama and Miami, and so
- 38:32he's down in Miami and you don't typically pull central Miami kids outside of Miami.
- 38:39They typically stay home so it is going to uh if he does pull
- 38:45the trigger and calls on oh you on Saturday. This is this is a
- 38:51don't look at the stars on this guy. This is one of those guys
- 38:52that in you know, in one to two years you're gonna see him rotating
- 38:57in and you're gonna be like, oh yeah, totally forgot about that guy.
- 38:59And we've got a younger cores already. So you bring in Coomore and
- 39:04more and Floyd Card on the inside, you know, you add them to
- 39:07David Stone, Jamie Jackson. I'm hoping Dominic Williams has a year to where
- 39:13he is a top fifteen pick, but I mean he is a junior,
- 39:15so he does have another year. But we've got a young interior. So
- 39:19that is a that's a crew that you're going to want to continue to stack
- 39:22talent at because you need six guys in the SEC as Keith Holcombe Obama guy
- 39:28in here, you know is probably gonn attest to that is you don't want
- 39:31to roll out there with three or four defensive tackles that you can put on
- 39:35the field. You want every single one of those guys to see game time.
- 39:39One hundred percent agree, and so looking at his offer list. You
- 39:44said it spot on. That's the one thing if you've watched any of my
- 39:47recruiting videos, which I probably drop another one on your card very soon and
- 39:51talk about. But that's the one thing that I preach heavily on. Right,
- 39:53it's go look and see who offered the keyd regardless of how many stars
- 40:00they have, who is offering the kid. And when we look at this,
- 40:05you've got Bama of course, Oklahoma, like you said, USC Miami,
- 40:08but on this list also teams that are really good on defensive line.
- 40:14Cincinnati will give them a little props. Florida State, Georgia is on this
- 40:20list, LSU, Louisville, Missouri, O Misssissippi State, Oregon's on the
- 40:27list. And we know that organ has been doing in recruiting right right,
- 40:30I mean they're wearing out that Apple pay brad brah brah bruh. Our guy
- 40:38Phil Knight said, look, he's it's funny because Curry Smart even said it
- 40:43in his opening monologue that he hung out with Phil Knight and his wife Penny,
- 40:47and he said that he loved to get some of the nil that Dan
- 40:52Laming's getting and started cracking up because you know. Of course Landing is one
- 40:54of is his guy former defensive coordinator. But no, this list is long
- 41:00with people. Auburn's on the list, Arkansas, Heck, Vanderbilt's on here
- 41:04too, Lank everybody's anybody, Penn State, South Carolina, everybody's anybody that
- 41:09light defensive linement is on this list. For got to be a three star?
- 41:14Why is everybody after him? That's the question you should ask yourself.
- 41:21Right, Sometimes the offer list gets people's stars bumped up. But for Floyd,
- 41:29he hasn't been playing but what two years? And so he hadn't been
- 41:36playing for two years. And he's from Canada. He played hockey, so
- 41:39you know he's physical, like you said, he he's just not known yet.
- 41:46That's it. That's the only reason why he's a consensus a composite three
- 41:51star. Ain't got nothing to do with true ability because all these schools see
- 41:58the high upside. Now if he comes in there with the dog, he's
- 42:00gonna be a monster trap. What a do? I appreciate it? My
- 42:08man? I'm trying to, man, were trying to We're trying to We're
- 42:10trying to get there, doll. It's all we trying to do. I
- 42:13need to get you on the live soon, so you know, keep your
- 42:16your options open. In the next two weeks, we're gonna make something happen
- 42:20to promise trap. We're gonna get you own he gonna get you own her.
- 42:22But no, it's it's always that cool. Like you said, you
- 42:28gotta pay attention to that offer list, and from there you've got what four,
- 42:34We got about three other dudes that we're really looking at. You go
- 42:36over and cross you got for Susie, which is at the end of August.
- 42:38Honestly, there's no point in beating that dead horse right now until probably
- 42:43close to the commitment time. I think probably the week before in August,
- 42:45when things seem like we may be wrapping up, we can talk about them.
- 42:50But you got kid pe Check on the edge. And then you've got
- 42:55Christian Jones at linebacker up there in Nebraska, so you get the North Dakota
- 42:59guy Nebraska got. It's really left man, and that's probably the last portions
- 43:06of the list. This would leave us. Honestly, this will give us
- 43:08a lot bigger class than I expected. I think that puts us right now.
- 43:13We're at twenty one. If we were to lay in all four of
- 43:15those that's a twenty six person class. Coop. I didn't think we were
- 43:20going to go that big. And you know, I still say that there
- 43:22is there's still and I hate saying this out loud, there's still a safety
- 43:30out there that if he shows up on campus, things will get a little
- 43:36exciting. Oh boy, I don't expect it still because it just it.
- 43:40It's one of those deals to where listen, it's just you put that away.
- 43:45If that happens, you know, people's heads are are gonna blow up.
- 43:47But yeah, I mean that the class was always going to be around
- 43:52the twenty three twenty five and this is the like we live now. I
- 43:57mean, you see Alabama doing it, you know, you've seen you see
- 44:00Georgia start doing it. To where you've got you've got to completely roll some
- 44:05of those you know, guys out and being process is not something that Brent
- 44:09Vivennables wants to be doing. But these kids nowadays, they know that they
- 44:15can go and they can make money. And I think that we said it
- 44:17actually in the Bocard interview when I asked him about, you know, playing
- 44:21in the SEC, would playing in the SEC was that a big part of
- 44:23or which conference was that a part of your decision. He said, no,
- 44:28if you're a baller like, people are going to find you, which
- 44:30I agree with. And now with the twelve team playoff, you get some
- 44:34national attention regardless. So I mean, you look at Boise State, Boys
- 44:37State kind of you know, disappeared for a few years. Now, you
- 44:40know, there's a lot of people saying that they're going to, you know,
- 44:43potentially be one of those teams that are going to sneak in from the
- 44:45group of five. So you don't you don't want to see any processing like
- 44:51that. You want to see guys who want to be here, and you
- 44:53need here it is everybody. You need competitive depth in the sec to keep
- 44:59it going. So you're gonna be rotating folks in and out, and you're
- 45:01gonna want to see that. Yeah, yeah, thanks Coop for doing that.
- 45:05You're gonna have me having to go to the bathroom the next couple of
- 45:07minutes and beefitable to hit me that way too. It was kind of funny,
- 45:09you know, whenever I was when he answered my question for five minutes,
- 45:13he actually threw in a whole bunch of competitive deaths and I was just
- 45:15like, dang man, my bad y'all. I didn't mean to do that
- 45:20to y'all, but no, man, it's we're winding down on the recruiting
- 45:23looks like which I honestly, I'm kind of excited that we'll get to the
- 45:28point that once the season starts, we'll be very light on the recruiting portion
- 45:32of it for the most part. We may even have our full class,
- 45:35may still, like you said, go after you know, a particular set
- 45:37of players that we still have interest in. May try to flip a few
- 45:40guys that we still have communication with the whatnot. But yeah, we may
- 45:46be wrapped up August. This will be the earliest. I don't think twenty
- 45:50six is gonna be like that now that we know that going forward, we
- 45:52know the rules is gonna be eighty. You know, it's gonna be whatever
- 45:57the scholarship number is. We don't know what that number anymore yet because that's
- 46:00gonna probably go up going into next season, but we know that you can
- 46:04recruit up to that number. They're not gonna limit the class sizes. So
- 46:08next year we probably will have like five recruits five commits going into like April,
- 46:17and I think everybody's gonna lose their collective minds back like they did the
- 46:22first two years. Well, don't we have guys committing? Because we do
- 46:25our commitments in June, July, and August. That is when we like
- 46:30to get everybody going. We like to get the visits out, let them
- 46:32get their visits, have their fun, enjoy their process, and then hopefully
- 46:37by they commit before their senior season. But the good thing is we got
- 46:40our quarterback, which is the only thing that matters. So I am leaning
- 46:46heavy. Now we've started, we start to see our first crystal ball with
- 46:50Tom Lloyd. I'm sensing that we're probably gonna see I'm leaning towards a commitment
- 46:58of Floyd to Oklahoma on Saturday. Now, does he have a time.
- 47:06I don't think so. I might have to hit him out. I go,
- 47:07look, I'm gonna go dig into his deal. You may hit him
- 47:10up and post him. He is your scheduled for the twentieth. He does
- 47:15not have an exact time. I wonder if he's gonna go on any stations.
- 47:17Look at his social media's really quickly, let's see hey, also real
- 47:24quick while we're looking that up, you know, sooner, family guys,
- 47:29anybody, we you know, we always want to just give you guys some
- 47:34you know, give you some love. Sec sooner, life, sooner.
- 47:37Kyle, one of my boys here and Broken Arrow had had to let the
- 47:40puppy down today, so I want to give him shout out to him.
- 47:44You know, our thoughts are, our prayers are with you, brother man.
- 47:46I hate that for anybody man. So I mean, if you guys
- 47:52got news like that and you just need some support, you want to take
- 47:53your head and mind off everything, you know, check out one of our
- 47:58videos, Watch me stumble around, Watch Jay's Internet Freeze. It's always a
- 48:01good time. Yeah, we always have phone with that right. Thanks for
- 48:05bringing up all of my question. I appreciate you clown in my internet interwe
- 48:09I think it's gonna get better, though I've heard that things are supposed to
- 48:12be getting better on that side, so I'm not no longer complaining, but
- 48:15I'll say this, I'm stoked. All right, We're gonna probably wrap this.
- 48:20We're gonna wrap his bad boy up, put a bowl on it a
- 48:22little early. Let everybody enjoy the rest of their evening. Final thoughts,
- 48:29Coop will pass to you, mamam. Yeah, Jackson, Arnold, Billy
- 48:36Bowman, Danny Stutsman. Oh yeah, we got to talk about players.
- 48:37Didn't even get to that point, my bay. We started tangentalk a guy
- 48:40about talking about their interviews. No, it's it's all good. Like you
- 48:45know, these guys, I love I love our players, and I don't
- 48:51know if you guys see DJ young gal a his quote about going to the
- 48:54ACC media days and he turned it down because he said he wanted he wanted
- 49:00the players that were on the team last year to go and represent the university.
- 49:04Like shout out to DJ. I mean that man has had a he's
- 49:07had a ride with his career. But yeah, Jackson going out there,
- 49:14you know, it cannot hurt that he's hanging out with those boys, with
- 49:16Stutsman, with Bowman, those were just those are awesome, awesome, you
- 49:22know times for him to be able to be around them, to see those
- 49:24things, because Jackson does have a lot of weight on his shoulders. Our
- 49:30our clown show that out West that you know was going off on OU after
- 49:35Fine Bomb dropped a bomb on him, you know said, you know OU's
- 49:37pushed all their chips in with Jackson Ardel Well, I mean, yeah,
- 49:42we have, we have. You know, if anybody's ever asked, like,
- 49:45did Dylan Gabriel leave because he didn't want to be here anymore? Now,
- 49:50Dylan Gabriel left because he didn't get an NFL grade that he wanted and
- 49:53he could make more money playing somewhere else. And apparently Oregon has a few
- 49:58dollars to spend, so they needed a quarterback to step in right then and
- 50:02there. And that's just basically it. He was told you were going to
- 50:07have to compete for the quarterback job if you stick around, and you go
- 50:10back to some of the you know, some of the mop up duty and
- 50:13just some of the throws that you've seen Jackson Arnold make, like that boy
- 50:16has talent. So my full on expectation is to see Jackson Arnold play within
- 50:22himself. I think the Arizona game, they just said, Jackson, go
- 50:25out there and do it. And you know, our defense, you know,
- 50:29paid for it. You didn't see complimentary football in that bowl game because
- 50:32we turned the ball over six times. So I think Jackson knows that he
- 50:37can show up this year and play within himself. He's got an arsenal of
- 50:40weapons all the way around him and a defense who is going to be able
- 50:45to you know, give him the ball back. So I mean, I'm
- 50:49really really excited about that listening to Billy Bowman out there talking Stutsman trolling the
- 50:54Texas guys and truth he doesn't have a tattoo on it. And so when
- 51:00when mister Ketchum brings that up, I wanted to put him in his place,
- 51:02even though he's doing it for a reaction. But you know, fourth
- 51:06wall break is out of a fourth wall break, So it's like, yeah,
- 51:08sixteen walls, sixteenth walls. Yeah, so great Deadpool reference before and
- 51:14during the show. Love it. But you know, this is uh,
- 51:17this is great to see Jackson out there. I mean he gets to go
- 51:22do his first big press conference in his hometown essentially, you know. So
- 51:27that's that's that's always a great piece too. But I liked a lot of
- 51:30the players, what I saw from a lot of the players, not just
- 51:32from Oklahoma, just from across the board. These guys know that. I
- 51:37mean, you can walk in as part of the SEC during SEC media days
- 51:42and you know it, it just means more like there's eyes upon eyes upon
- 51:47eyes there and so you just seeing the cameras and the people stacked up you
- 51:52know behind you know, any anybody speaking that was that's a pretty cool sight.
- 51:55And I think Jackson's gonna be game. I'll tell you what, You'll
- 51:59not think Jackson I was gonna be fine. I mean, his accolades are
- 52:04not even what I need to talk about. We saw it, like you
- 52:06said in the Arizona game. We saw the potential. We saw what he
- 52:09can do. The bigger thing for him was he just needed to execute on
- 52:14it right, and you know he made his early mistake. Then he you
- 52:19know, changed from that. It was like you saw I forgot who mentioned
- 52:22this at any Staples. I think Andy Staples actually talked about this with Teddy
- 52:27and them, but he said that you saw true freshman quarterback play. Then
- 52:30you saw somebody You're like, Okay, I see the potential now, but
- 52:34then you saw true freshman come back out those that stuff should probably start subsiding,
- 52:39especially because he's being forged in fire with the way that Brent Vnables plays
- 52:44defense. I was gonna ask Brent about that about the Kevin Wilson comment when
- 52:50they played Tulsa and asked the question of is that how you're forging Jackson Arnold
- 52:57similar to how you helped forge Sam Brafford, I was gonna wonder if they
- 53:01were you were throwing it all out. But you know, of course I
- 53:05made the mistake and asked the question that led to him get going on a
- 53:07two minute a twenty minute tangent. But that's the question, right, If
- 53:15Venables is treating this situation like he did back in the early two thousands against
- 53:22Tulsa when him and Kevin Wilson going back and forth, may I did we
- 53:28got a dude that we didn't know who he was ended up winning the Heisman?
- 53:31Right? Who's gonna complain if he can get close to that? Right?
- 53:36I mean? Do I expect forty seven hundred passing yards? Absolutely not.
- 53:40I do expect three thousand, just because we know how self the Trail
- 53:45does things. He's a very good on pace and he likes to put up
- 53:47numbers. So the expectation is. I don't think we hit forty points a
- 53:52game like we did last year. I think we dropping the thirties kind of
- 53:54like what Phil Steele was looking at us, but it probably is more.
- 53:59Now let's wrap it up with this, though. I got one more thing,
- 54:01Uh can we kick? Let me go ahead and kick PG real quick?
- 54:07Give me and say, let me block this. Ja, I'm just
- 54:09telling you. I'm just telling you a lot. Let me put him in
- 54:13time out. There we go. PG is now in time out. Twenty
- 54:15six is here? Jay? I know that you it's not It's not a
- 54:19real year. It's not a real year. And I just I just muted
- 54:24PG for the next few years. He's he's now timed out because he's going
- 54:31to keep Why is he responding? Let me time you out? Where is
- 54:35this time out? But put user in time out? There we go,
- 54:38we're time out in PG. PG show is now in time out. It
- 54:42is not a real year. We got a quarterback though, so yes,
- 54:46and running back and but yes we get the quarterback, which is the most
- 54:52important thing. Yeah, but it ain't a real year. Actually, you
- 54:59know why I'm doing in this. I had two people I needed to promote.
- 55:01While we're sitting here, where is he? There's Duck congratulations and Keith
- 55:09We understand Finebaum is and he's Jim rum today, right, Like that's that's
- 55:15what he is. It is all about SEC not SEC but ESPN. You
- 55:21know they gave him that platform, and you know it's just a personality.
- 55:25But I mean, you got to think that like, that's that's how you
- 55:30You have to have polarizing figures who aren't going to demand contracts upon contract upon
- 55:36contracts, you know, And that's a ESPN has to do. It is
- 55:38you can't have all the big names anymore because Broadcast TV is on a struggle
- 55:43bus massively exactly. And you know, outside of the punk Finebaum deel,
- 55:46you know, Finebaum is always interesting characters in general because he's been doing this
- 55:50for so darn long. But hey, real quick on this, the Eli
- 55:53Drinkwick's set of comments. We'll en this in the last five minutes with it.
- 55:59So for the direct quote for those of y'all, he said that Caden
- 56:04Green has s T. I's not what y'all think. Its size, toughness,
- 56:15and intensity. It wasn't integrity. I know that for damn sure.
- 56:21It wasn't that. But he said s T I S my boy, what
- 56:25are we doing here? I get that it's fun to create these little actnet
- 56:30doll you can't do that. And then he of course talked about how did
- 56:35PG come make in another account? Let me go ahead and I'm gonna let
- 56:37me let me meet him in the second account. Time out for PG kidding,
- 56:45but no, he but but this was an interesting Stephen, thank you
- 56:49for pointing this out because this is the one that I want to talk about.
- 56:51I'm a fight PG for going to his other account, he said that
- 56:55Green is playing guard right now. Yeah, and with you know, he
- 57:00played a little left guard for us, but we had him for a tackle
- 57:05and he, you know, drink mentioned that, you know, when Marcus
- 57:09Brian got there, they slick you know, Caten down the left guard and
- 57:13you know, he's a he's a company guy, does a very good job
- 57:15of you know, helping out where needed or whatnot. Cool. What do
- 57:22you think about that? Man? It's kind of an interesting statement, right,
- 57:24I mean because that it wasn't it like a complaint? I mean,
- 57:28coach Rick moranis is always coming up with I mean, sorry, Eli Drinkowitz
- 57:31is always coming up with some weird stuff, and I mean, I don't
- 57:36I don't know what what are you trying to do? Seriously, what are
- 57:38you trying to do with that? Like you didn't sound smart. Whatever intelligence
- 57:43that people thought that you had still m h. So you know, it
- 57:49just confirms it's it's as soon as the season gets going, I'm you know,
- 57:52I think Missouri. They've got damn near at AAC type of schedule.
- 57:59I think it's just, uh, I don't, I mean, I got
- 58:02no answers. Jay, I really don't. I mean I don't. I
- 58:05don't know what that's about. Like, it just confuses me how that guy
- 58:10would come out and say something like that. It just it blows my mind,
- 58:14absolutely blows my mind. It's fascinating because you get, Wow, we've
- 58:19got two more crystal balls that popped in. Colin Kennedy just dropped his crystal
- 58:22ball. Brian Donne from the National Recruiting Analysts over there at two four seven
- 58:29also has dropped his crystal ball. This sounds like we have some possibilities.
- 58:32Guys, get yourselves excited. But no, he talked about how you know
- 58:37he's got you know, Kayden Green. As soon as he hit the port
- 58:39they recruited him hard, and then you know, when he got in the
- 58:42portal, they decided to reach out because they were super excited. I'm not
- 58:45gonna get any speculations. I'm not here to be lib at any level or
- 58:47whatever you call I you know, but I'm just gonna say this, though,
- 58:51I thought I was fascinating that this man said that he's now played left
- 58:53guard. Now he'd be our starting right tackle right now. Hell, he'd
- 58:59be starting left tackle if he it's again, I don't care like it's a
- 59:07it's just a very fascin if anything. Missoo, Keith, you are one
- 59:12hundred percent right. And I said it, you're not sneaking up on anybody,
- 59:16you are. I mean that that that's that they got. They did
- 59:21what they did last year. Listen, Luther Burden, he's great quarterback,
- 59:28he's good. They lost their DC. They're not sneaking up on anybody.
- 59:32When they play the bigger boys. It's going to be it's going to be,
- 59:37it's going to be real. And I say that this coaching staff,
- 59:42you know, takes each game and Keith, I mean, tell me if
- 59:45I'm wrong. After A and M you know, comes out and beats Bama
- 59:49and then starts talking about like we ruled the SEC. I'm pretty sure Bama
- 59:52went in that next year and was like, all right, let's let's do
- 59:57this. And so if you, if you, that's why you don't see
- 1:00:00any trash talking in the SEC media days. Why do you want to have
- 1:00:06any type of target on your back? And I think that I mean people
- 1:00:08just want to put they'll want to put Missouri in the locker because they I
- 1:00:13mean, they messed around and had a winning season for the first time and
- 1:00:15I don't know how long, and so they thought it was something special.
- 1:00:19You know. Congratulations Missouri fans. You welcome to a Winter Circle. Yet
- 1:00:22you were there for a short minute. So let's uh, let's let's see
- 1:00:25what happens. But yeah, Kaden Green go into the guard. All the
- 1:00:29stuff that we heard about everything, we know for a fact that he got
- 1:00:32a he got a pretty big Floyd said, four thirty PM Eastern two four
- 1:00:38seven. All right, three thirty Central time. Thank you Floyd for giving
- 1:00:44us that update live on the show. That's the man. So now you
- 1:00:47know when he's going to actually commit. So for those that did not know
- 1:00:52that, three thirty on two four seven, Yeah, all right, we've
- 1:00:59got a date and we've got a time. Yeah, yeah, boy's pretty
- 1:01:05excited. Now crystal Ball is flying in and now we've got a time.
- 1:01:09So now I know exactly when I need to be getting my life together.
- 1:01:15So we might be uh, we might have a little little little watch party.
- 1:01:21So it's uh, we don't have many watch parties for for uh this
- 1:01:24year left, and I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that you know, at
- 1:01:30the end of this uh this month, we'll be all but locked up and
- 1:01:34uh for Susi's the last one, so that would be awesome. I still
- 1:01:42feel like he's our David Stone recruitment this time around. I'm hoping that he's
- 1:01:45the big one, that the big fish that comes in and then you start
- 1:01:46seeing more stuff populate with him. That will be dope. But let's go
- 1:01:53with it, all right, anything else you want to close with. I
- 1:01:55thought it was gonna be out here within an hour, but let's like,
- 1:01:58no, We've got more. I got bubbles from Floyd, so I'm waiting
- 1:02:02on that. But no, it's uh all right, you know, I
- 1:02:05think we have sooner Sooners under the Stars Party's Palace coming up to you know,
- 1:02:09because there's years in the future that's that's that are that are gonna be
- 1:02:15coming at us soon. But U n c A twenty five j you haven't
- 1:02:19played it yet, right, Nope, I got it loaded up. I'm
- 1:02:21actually as soon as I get off here, I'm going right to it the
- 1:02:24on and watch the video and see it all light up in front of me
- 1:02:29take his Anax or something and start start low, don't don't do like somebody
- 1:02:35else did, and go straight into heisman that said he got any words for
- 1:02:39the viewers, and he said, ha ha ha, you ain't getting me
- 1:02:43like that. Tune in Saturday, four thirties. Thank you Floyd for the
- 1:02:50good laugh, man. We appreciate it. All right, we'll see you
- 1:02:52definitely on Saturday. All right, thank you for pulling up pur the norm
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- 1:03:07Let's give us five anyway and gifted. If you're over on the recruiting site,
- 1:03:09we will have some more videos coming down the line on the way to
- 1:03:14the commitment. We'll probably even start going some reviews of like, well,
- 1:03:19since you think it's a real year, Coop, I'm just gonna go ahead
- 1:03:22and task you with making videos around these recruits in twenty twenty six that you
- 1:03:24just love so much. Since it's a real year to you, it ain't
- 1:03:28real to me, it ain't real into this class signs in my personal opinion,
- 1:03:31or we get a commitment. But yes, thank you all for coming.
- 1:03:35Man. We appreciate everybody. Enjoy your evening. Locked on sooners.
- 1:03:38We'll have our video in the morning, me and John, so we'll probably
- 1:03:43record here in the bit but uh yeah with that, with that we'll chop
- 1:03:45it up. I don't know, and the next stuff there two peaks