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Ep. 938: Back 40 - Can’t Find a Buck to Hunt? Don’t Panic. Do This! · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Don't panic. That's the worst thing you can do, right.
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Speaker 2: You can't expect to always just sit around and have
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Speaker 2: one show up.
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Speaker 3: It's just not the reality.
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Speaker 4: It really goes back to what was left there last year,
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Speaker 4: which it was good last year, and there was some
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Speaker 4: really good upcumbers. There were some nice bocks that you
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Speaker 4: were hunting that you were happy to tag. It'll be
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Speaker 4: good to get in this year.
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Speaker 5: Welcome back to another round of Back forty, where we
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Speaker 5: traveled across the Midwest, bringing a group of experts to
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Speaker 5: dive into one single question, one white tailed dilemma that
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Speaker 5: we face throughout the build up of the white tail season.
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Speaker 5: Back forty is brought to you by land dot com,
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Speaker 5: the leading online real estate marketplace to find your perfect rural, recreational, agricultural,
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Speaker 5: or hunting properties here in the US. This week, we're
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Speaker 5: diving into a question and topic that I think a
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Speaker 5: lot of people may be sitting in right now. And
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Speaker 5: some people have comfort with this and some people are
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Speaker 5: likely very nervous. And so what we're diving into is
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Speaker 5: if you've been running cameras, you've been trying to scout,
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Speaker 5: and you haven't found a deer yet, that gets you excited. Now,
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Speaker 5: A lot of people right now will say, well, yeah,
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Speaker 5: dear shift, but where do deer shift and is this
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Speaker 5: something that you can bank on? Do you have intel
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Speaker 5: from last year? And we brought in our panel of
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Speaker 5: experts that have decades of experience that can help you
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Speaker 5: recognize these patterns that may be impactful for you to
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Speaker 5: develop a really good game plan for right now to
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Speaker 5: potentially find a buck to hunt, or number two, find
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Speaker 5: an area that will likely have a buck show up
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Speaker 5: when it matters during the season.
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Speaker 3: So we have our.
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Speaker 5: Expert panel here again with Bill Winky, Bobby Kendall, Skip Sly,
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Speaker 5: Steve Hansen, Jeff Sturgist, Don Higgins, Thomas Milsna, and Mark Kenyon,
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Speaker 5: and we're going to get right into this with Bill
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Speaker 5: on what he thinks and what to do. If you've
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Speaker 5: been scouting all year and you haven't found a buck
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Speaker 5: to hunt, should you panic and what should you do?
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Speaker 5: All my friends are sending me pictures of giant velvet bucks.
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Speaker 5: They're telling me all these big deer that they're going
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Speaker 5: to be able to hunt like a loser. I haven't
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Speaker 5: found any deer to hunt yet. It's August eighteen, and
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Speaker 5: I just feel like my season is ruined before it started.
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Speaker 3: What do I do?
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Speaker 4: It's still too early to now. I mean, I've seen
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Speaker 4: the playing field change clear into October.
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Speaker 3: With respect to the bucks that.
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Speaker 4: Are in my hunting area, what I always think is
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Speaker 4: in what I've learned, you know, through the years, is
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Speaker 4: the bucks that were there last year in the fall
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Speaker 4: are probably going to be there again this year. If
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Speaker 4: there weren't any good bucks on the pump Beak last year,
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Speaker 4: or any really good up and comers, then you maybe
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Speaker 4: are aleser because you're continue to hunt there and there's
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Speaker 4: probably not going to be any this year because they
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Speaker 4: don't just magically appear. They grow and they're not nearly
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Speaker 4: as transient, is what we think. And that's the other
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Speaker 4: big I'm saying misconceptions. People think all them be it out,
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Speaker 4: they're always on the move. They're not always on the move.
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Speaker 4: I've not seen that, And talk with.
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Speaker 6: Outfigures over the years.
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Speaker 4: Some of them there are guys that you know, you've
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Speaker 4: talked with the past, that you know we would you
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Speaker 4: know the same people and we've compared notes, and they
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Speaker 4: aren't moving all over the place. So you've got bucks
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Speaker 4: in their summer ranges drifted and dispersing into their fall ranges.
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Speaker 4: If it's been a good area and asked, it's just
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Speaker 4: a matter of time before those bucks show up again,
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Speaker 4: because unless they died somehow somewhere else, most of the
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Speaker 4: bucks use the same fall range year after year, and
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Speaker 4: you get a certain percentage of them that drop out.
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Speaker 4: You know that that move a little bit depends on
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Speaker 4: the size of the property you're hunting. If you're hunting
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Speaker 4: a smaller property, he might be fringed out on the neighbors.
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Speaker 4: He might not seem until the rock he's up cruising,
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Speaker 4: But more than likely, if he was in that area
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Speaker 4: last year, he's not dead. He's going to be in
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Speaker 4: that area again this year, but it may not be
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Speaker 4: could be clear into October before he starts to show up,
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Speaker 4: but for sure September.
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Speaker 5: So the question people should be asking is is there
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Speaker 5: a deer or does the farm I'm hunting this year?
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Speaker 5: Is there any reason to think that a big one
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Speaker 5: will show up in the actual hunting season?
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Speaker 3: And I shouldn't panic right now?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you Again, it really goes back to
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Speaker 4: what was left there last year, and if it was
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Speaker 4: good last year, and there was some really good up
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Speaker 4: and cumbers. There were some nice bucks that you were
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Speaker 4: hunting that you were be happy to tag. It'll be
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Speaker 4: good to get in this year. They just may not
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Speaker 4: be summering there, and that's the thing. You just have
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Speaker 4: to be patient. But if it wasn't any good last
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Speaker 4: year and you didn't have the up and combers that
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Speaker 4: you're saying, oh boy, this's gonna be a great bug
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Speaker 4: next year, if you didn't have that deer last year,
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Speaker 4: then there's a pretty good chance that you need to
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Speaker 4: find someplace else to haunt there.
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Speaker 3: You guys have it.
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Speaker 5: That is Bill's perspective, and what I gather from that
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Speaker 5: is dig back in your brain right now, or go
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Speaker 5: back and look at last year's pictures.
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Speaker 3: What may sow up?
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Speaker 5: And if the answer is nothing, you might want to
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Speaker 5: look for another spot or develop an alternate game plan.
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Speaker 5: Next up, we have Bobby Kendall and let's hear what
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Speaker 5: he has to say about this topic. All my buddies
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Speaker 5: are sending pictures to all these giant deer, and I'm
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Speaker 5: feeling like a loser that's getting peck picked, lass and dodgeball.
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Speaker 3: I can't find a buck the hunt. What do I do?
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Speaker 5: Is late August, they're done growing. Basically, they're getting ready
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Speaker 5: to shed their velvet. All time excitement, but I'm not
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Speaker 5: very optimistic right now, yeap.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we talked about good hunters and
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Speaker 2: great hunters, and one of those things I think I
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Speaker 2: said is great hunters are really good at finding big deer.
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Speaker 2: So like, if you just have one spot to hunt,
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Speaker 2: and I understand, I get it, a lot of people
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Speaker 2: just have one spot to hunt or no spots to haunt.
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Speaker 2: You can't expect to always just sit around and have
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Speaker 2: one show up. It's just not the reality. You have
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Speaker 2: to get good at killing big deer consistently. You have
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Speaker 2: to get good at finding big deer consistently. So there's
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Speaker 2: years that I go into the season and I don't
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Speaker 2: have a whole lot going on, and I just start scrapping,
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Speaker 2: you know, I just start grinding, and you know, just
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Speaker 2: spots I might not hunt in a year, but I
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Speaker 2: could probably hunt if I call them this and that.
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Speaker 3: I just start running cameras everywhere.
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Speaker 2: You just have to get spend more of your efforts
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Speaker 2: finding other places than trying to uh make make one magically.
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Speaker 3: Appear, because it just it doesn't really work.
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Speaker 2: Like that, and I wish I had a better answer
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Speaker 2: than that, but you got to get really good at
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Speaker 2: finding them and casting a big net. I think it's
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Speaker 2: somewhat rare to just have bucks or show up. I mean,
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Speaker 2: certain farms are different in that, but if you're running
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Speaker 2: your cameras effectively, especially if you're doing some stuff with
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Speaker 2: food blots and everything, it's it's not very often that
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Speaker 2: you don't have a deer, or at least know a deer. Nowadays,
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Speaker 2: know the deer is very Yeah. Another thing is I
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Speaker 2: think I talked about this before too, like as you're
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Speaker 2: looking for other places to hunt, so if you have
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Speaker 2: a hunch that there's one around or whatever, always be
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Speaker 2: moving the cameras because they're in bachelor groups and they
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Speaker 2: could be right there. I mean, I'm watching it at
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Speaker 2: my house right now, Like there's all these fields and
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Speaker 2: there's one field where all the bucks are, and if
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Speaker 2: you came and it's one part of the field, they're
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Speaker 2: in every night. So if your camera's on the other
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Speaker 2: side of the field, you're missing them and you're like,
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Speaker 2: I don't have any dear to hunt. But if it's
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Speaker 2: on the other side of the field, you're like, I
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Speaker 2: got a big one to hunt, So always moving your cameras,
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Speaker 2: shuffling them even if it's not not very far, and
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Speaker 2: at the same time working on your dame for trying
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Speaker 2: to find new places to hunt.
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Speaker 5: Bobby's advice is super real and tangible for anyone that
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Speaker 5: is counting on luck.
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Speaker 3: And also if.
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Speaker 5: You're feeling like, hey, this isn't likely going to happen,
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Speaker 5: you have time to go out and look and try
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Speaker 5: to find something that you don't know anything about and
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Speaker 5: start learning and start preparing a plan B or C
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Speaker 5: or D. Next up, we have gips Lide. Let's keep
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Speaker 5: the episode moving. Ride along, and let's hear what Skip
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Speaker 5: p hass to say. All my friends are sending me
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Speaker 5: pictures of giant bucks that they have on camera, big
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Speaker 5: velvet bucks. They're all excited. I'm sitting over here. I
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Speaker 5: feel like a loser. I've had my cameras up, I
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Speaker 5: just can't find a buck to hunt.
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Speaker 3: What do I do?
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Speaker 7: One we need to understand that a lot of these
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Speaker 7: bucks aren't in their their fall range yet, so a
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Speaker 7: lot can change so and a lot of these guys
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Speaker 7: will be really excited, like I'm the guy with all
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Speaker 7: these giant bucks on camera, and I've got all these
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Speaker 7: soybeans or whatever. And then those same guys that think
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Speaker 7: they're doing really great October or August nineteenth, it comes
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Speaker 7: to like September nineteenth and like those bucks are gone
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Speaker 7: or October one, they're gone now. And then the guy
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Speaker 7: that might be like I don't have anything, Alsen's like, hey,
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Speaker 7: I actually pick some bucks up, So that actually doesn't
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Speaker 7: make me nervous. So what I would say if I
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Speaker 7: don't have giants on camera, like my buddies are all
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Speaker 7: bragging they do, and it's August nineteenth, I'm setting my
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Speaker 7: farm up or the places I can hunt to be.
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Speaker 7: You know, if I can do anything for habitat, making
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Speaker 7: them thicker, making them you know, not not a lot
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Speaker 7: of intrusion, making them good sanctuaries for the deer where
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Speaker 7: they feel safe, and that can be done through habitat,
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Speaker 7: and it can be done just through pressure. But if
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Speaker 7: you have desirable thick cover, that's when I see a
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Speaker 7: lot of transitions like whoa, they came off the beans
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Speaker 7: or things start thinning out. You know, Well that deer
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Speaker 7: might be living in kind of a cattle pasture area, Well,
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Speaker 7: those are going to thin out and there'll be no
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Speaker 7: brows later and a lot of these deer relocate.
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Speaker 3: So I would try to.
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Speaker 7: Have as many setups in like thick secluded areas that
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Speaker 7: have some food that you're like, this is desirable for
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Speaker 7: a big buck. And if it is, by definition, over
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Speaker 7: that month maybe two month period is things then out
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Speaker 7: props come down, white bucks start fighting for dominance. They're
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Speaker 7: going to get pushed off, and the dynamics will change.
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Speaker 7: And if you have a farm built to house a
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Speaker 7: matured a mature buck, there's a good chance that your
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Speaker 7: dynamics will change, uh in a month. Just get all
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Speaker 7: those farms prepped ready, get your stands up, get your
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Speaker 7: setups up, so when those bucks do show up, which
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Speaker 7: hopefully they do, sometimes maybe they won't, you're ready to go.
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Speaker 7: And your farm is very low pressure, and then you
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Speaker 7: you're you're ready to execute any plan if you need,
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Speaker 7: if you need to, and and a buck shows up
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Speaker 7: that you want to hunt.
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Speaker 5: On a let's say like forty or sixty or seventy
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Speaker 5: acre track, are you are you more excited when you
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Speaker 5: don't have some bucks on camera in late summer.
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Speaker 3: Depends on the track.
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Speaker 7: I want them there in the summer for sure, uh,
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Speaker 7: and I really hope I don't lose them. And when
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Speaker 7: I lose them, there's definitely some commonalities on why those
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Speaker 7: dear leave. In my opinion, what are what are some
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Speaker 7: of those coming out don't have good thermal cover, don't
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Speaker 7: have super thick, thick, nasty like guys are like I
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Speaker 7: don't like cedar trees.
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Speaker 3: I want to get rid of them all.
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Speaker 7: Well, I have cedar trees because those bucks are going
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Speaker 7: to seek that really dense cover out and maybe not
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Speaker 7: the stuff that's like so tight together you can't walk through,
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Speaker 7: but like really thick nasty stuff. Those bucks are going
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Speaker 7: to want to be there. And then you know, if
11:22
Speaker 7: I had a forty that's like, hey, I got giants
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Speaker 7: out there, but it's just got you know, a five
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Speaker 7: acre timber draw. Well, as those beans dry down and
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Speaker 7: turn yellow, all of a sudden, those bucks will probably vanish.
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Speaker 7: So that one would be very concerning to me if
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Speaker 7: I if I didn't have a lot of good thick cover,
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't panic. I just find the thickest, nastiest cover
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Speaker 7: that's not not blown up, and as long as you
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Speaker 7: know you got say a forty acre piece and what
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Speaker 7: blows a lot of farms up is like, hey, this
11:54
Speaker 7: forty acre piece is ideal, and all of a sudden
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Speaker 7: every year the bucks go there, but then the people
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Speaker 7: screw it up blown back out. Well, if I have
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Speaker 7: the farm that I make sure that doesn't happen, most
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Speaker 7: of my neighbors will probably do stupid stuff and push
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Speaker 7: the deer in there a lot of times, So I
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Speaker 7: would just keep it. So It's just like if you
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Speaker 7: build it, they will come, and sometimes they do come,
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Speaker 7: and sometimes they don't. Just understand that and if they
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Speaker 7: don't come consistently, there's something wrong with the farm. But
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Speaker 7: I would just say if you get good at knowing
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Speaker 7: how to know what a great farm is with like
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Speaker 7: seclusion safety, good thermal cover, nasty thick bedding cover, and
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Speaker 7: then you don't blow it out a lot of times
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Speaker 7: by definition it will you're gonna gain bucks. Is especially
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Speaker 7: if people are doing stupid stuff around you, or things
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Speaker 7: are thinning out and I see that all the time,
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Speaker 7: like the leaves start falling and.
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Speaker 3: Whoa that that stuff that look.
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Speaker 7: Kind of thick with cattle in and well that's a
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Speaker 7: ghost town and all thst deer leave and they'll find
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Speaker 7: the farm like heres if it's set up right.
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Speaker 5: Next up we have Steve Hanson, and he does a
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Speaker 5: ton of work on the farms, and I think his
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Speaker 5: perspective is a little bit different. I'm not going to
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Speaker 5: spoil anything, so here we go. This is what Steve
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Speaker 5: Hanson has to say for the folks that either have
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Speaker 5: a bunch of bucks or don't have anything, how to
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Speaker 5: find one and what you should do right now.
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Speaker 3: It's late summer.
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Speaker 5: Okay, you've probably had cameras out, you've done some scouting,
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Speaker 5: you have a few spots right now, you've unt it
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Speaker 5: in the past.
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Speaker 3: You can't find a buck, yep.
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Speaker 8: Now what well, what I would start doing at that point,
13:31
Speaker 8: depending on when your season opens. If you still have
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Speaker 8: and you know this, we talked about this one of
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Speaker 8: the other questions, but if you still have quite a
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Speaker 8: bit of time before your hunting season opens, I would
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Speaker 8: invest a ton of time glassing if that and that
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Speaker 8: that can take two different approaches. One is truly just
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Speaker 8: glassing where you're sitting in the truck, sitting on a
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Speaker 8: high point watching something like that. If that's not an
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Speaker 8: option in your area, maybe set stands for the upcoming
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Speaker 8: hunting season.
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Speaker 6: More of observation stands.
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Speaker 8: You're there, you're hunting, but instead of hunting, you know,
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Speaker 8: one little tight funnel right outside of a betting area,
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Speaker 8: get out on an open oak ridge or an oak
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Speaker 8: flat where you can see a couple hundred yards with
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Speaker 8: your binoculars through the timber both directions, and you're hunting
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Speaker 8: and you're in the game with a good solid wind direction.
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Speaker 8: But you're also in a spot where you can glass
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Speaker 8: and move and then just be ready to move quickly
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Speaker 8: once you do identify a target buck. But you have
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Speaker 8: to kind of pull back from hunt mode and go
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Speaker 8: into more even if it's a scout slash hunt, a
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Speaker 8: hanging hunt type thing, just to get a good vantage
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Speaker 8: point on some other areas.
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Speaker 6: But you're going to have to.
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Speaker 8: Cover more country to be able to be able to
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Speaker 8: try to find one. It's all going to focus on
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Speaker 8: finding them. And I would probably move my cameras around
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Speaker 8: quite a bit.
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Speaker 5: Where would you move them or I guess and this
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Speaker 5: is you know, this is throughout the summer too, So
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Speaker 5: are you banking on any sort of summer shift or
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Speaker 5: bucks changing as velvet is about to shed too?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would.
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Speaker 8: I would definitely be moving, you know, as you go
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Speaker 8: through August. We usually if we get a big wind
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Speaker 8: of enter something will put acorns on the ground. I
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Speaker 8: would move off the edge of the soybean fields and
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Speaker 8: stuff the traditional summer spots. I would find you know,
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Speaker 8: trails and stuff in the betting areas close to where
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Speaker 8: there is solid mass crops, you know, And I would
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Speaker 8: focus on white oaks in a lot of area. They're
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Speaker 8: going to be the earlier of the acorns and they're
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Speaker 8: far preferred. So I would definitely shift to shift the
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Speaker 8: cameras to that, and then shift my strategy. Try to
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Speaker 8: have a two prong approach where you've moved the cameras
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Speaker 8: to better and newer locations, and then I would also
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Speaker 8: plan on you know, physically glassing through hunts or through
15:31
Speaker 8: whatever whatever that takes.
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Speaker 5: So I would you think twenty years ago and think
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Speaker 5: of some of the bucks that you've killed over the years,
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Speaker 5: how often did you have August intel of those deer?
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Speaker 8: I would say even twenty years ago, we probably had
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Speaker 8: intel of some kind on all of.
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Speaker 3: Them in that summertime frame.
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Speaker 8: Yep, in the summertime frame, either through glassing. We actually
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Speaker 8: one buck in particular, which was approximately twenty years ago,
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Speaker 8: I can remember we was a brand new property and
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Speaker 8: we had a friend in town from out of the area,
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Speaker 8: and we all divided up in July before a Canadian
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Speaker 8: fishing trip and jumped up in the stands or in
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Speaker 8: shooting huts, and he told us he saw this buck
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Speaker 8: and like the way he described it, like, we're like,
16:18
Speaker 8: this guy's from back east.
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Speaker 6: His name, he's a great friend.
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Speaker 8: His name's Bob, and we're like, hops, probably doesn't know.
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Speaker 8: He probably saw one hundred and sixty inch ten pointer,
16:28
Speaker 8: you know, and thought that was that. So we located
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Speaker 8: that deer through glassing to appease Bob and sort of
16:36
Speaker 8: ourselves before we the next day, before we left for Canada,
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Speaker 8: we put some corn out there, put a camera and
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Speaker 8: these were cameras you had to pull the chip, you know,
16:43
Speaker 8: all that stuff, and left went on our fishing trip,
16:46
Speaker 8: came back and there was two bucks there on that camera,
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Speaker 8: one of which I killed, which was the one that
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Speaker 8: scored two fourteen. The other one I still think about this.
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Speaker 8: We never saw the other one again, and he had
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Speaker 8: to be close to one ninety, maybe because they were
17:01
Speaker 8: both somewhat equal in that trail camera picture, but that
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Speaker 8: those were the bucks that Bob had seen, which we
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Speaker 8: identified through glassing and then moved in and actually got
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Speaker 8: hard evidence with a picture through specifically moving a camera
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Speaker 8: over there.
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Speaker 5: Now, let's get into what Jeff Sturge's perspective is on
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Speaker 5: the topic. Might be totally different than everyone else here,
17:27
Speaker 5: let's get into it. I can't find a buck to hunt.
17:30
Speaker 5: I don't know of one right now based off of
17:32
Speaker 5: summer intel.
17:34
Speaker 3: What do I do?
17:35
Speaker 6: Now, You're probably doing a great job.
17:37
Speaker 9: The majority of lands that hold the mature and this
17:40
Speaker 9: isn't like one hundred percent rule, but it's probably ninety.
17:43
Speaker 9: It's up there, it's high, but the majority of the
17:46
Speaker 9: box will hold. The lands that hold the best box
17:48
Speaker 9: here in the summertime do not hold the same box
17:50
Speaker 9: here in the fall.
17:52
Speaker 6: And there's nothing magical about it.
17:54
Speaker 3: You know.
17:55
Speaker 9: I've been on over fourteen hundred properties to analyze them
17:57
Speaker 9: for an entire day in twenty one years and twenty
18:00
Speaker 9: six states, and I see the same.
18:02
Speaker 6: Thing over and over and over again.
18:05
Speaker 9: Mature bucks have one habitat requirement during the summertime and
18:09
Speaker 9: another habitat requirement in the fall.
18:12
Speaker 6: That habitat merk requirement might go back.
18:15
Speaker 9: End of winter to spring to what it was during
18:17
Speaker 9: the summertime, so they have different areas, and even scientific
18:22
Speaker 9: studies will show that there's often a barbell movement to
18:25
Speaker 9: mature box where they spend forty percent of their time here,
18:28
Speaker 9: forty percent of their time here, twenty percent of the
18:30
Speaker 9: time in between.
18:32
Speaker 6: Well, if you look at the habitat.
18:33
Speaker 9: They need during the summertime, they need quality summer food.
18:36
Speaker 9: So a lot of times if you're seeing big groups
18:40
Speaker 9: of box, you're probably not hunting giant hardwoods in Kentucky, Pennsylvania,
18:44
Speaker 9: or up north swamps in the Northern States, it's probably
18:48
Speaker 9: because they're out in ag areas.
18:49
Speaker 2: Well.
18:49
Speaker 9: If they're hitting ag areas or aunt alfalfa soybeans, those
18:52
Speaker 9: are all gone. Once the alfalfa frost out k October,
18:55
Speaker 9: it's almost worthless. We're surrounded by hundreds of acres of alfalfa,
18:59
Speaker 9: and those that doesn't drive the deer herd. In drives
19:03
Speaker 9: the deer herd in May, June, July, August, especially after
19:06
Speaker 9: the cuttings. When it comes to October, November, December and beyond,
19:10
Speaker 9: it does not, and so that summer food that they
19:13
Speaker 9: craved all summer is gone. So a mature buck is willing.
19:18
Speaker 9: He's got a home range five times greater than a
19:20
Speaker 9: doll family group. He's going to find quality food that
19:23
Speaker 9: is unpressured, and he wants quality fall food in winter
19:27
Speaker 9: food which is not the same as the summer. Also,
19:30
Speaker 9: he wants high overstory and shade during the summertime. He
19:33
Speaker 9: can't crash his velvet antlers to that high stem count hardwood, regen,
19:38
Speaker 9: and briers that he would prefer to live in during October, November, December, January, February, March.
19:43
Speaker 9: In fact, he browses there, lives there during the daylight.
19:47
Speaker 9: He can't live there with his velvet during the summertime.
19:50
Speaker 9: So not only does his food source change, his cover
19:53
Speaker 9: sources changed too. So if you're building a property on
19:56
Speaker 9: private land or fall food plots, not only are you
20:00
Speaker 9: you're helping your hunt out obviously by positioning those bucks
20:02
Speaker 9: on your land here in the falling off the summer,
20:05
Speaker 9: but you're also giving the deer what they need the
20:07
Speaker 9: most too. They don't need your food during the summertime,
20:09
Speaker 9: but they desperately need it in the pre.
20:11
Speaker 6: Winter winter post winter.
20:13
Speaker 9: So if you're focusing your food efforts in that time,
20:15
Speaker 9: you're helping the critters and the wildlife and the deer,
20:18
Speaker 9: and at the same time you're helping your hunt too,
20:21
Speaker 9: and so that's a good thing. And I can honestly
20:25
Speaker 9: say that we have about of the two thirds of
20:29
Speaker 9: the one hundred percent of the box that we expect
20:31
Speaker 9: to see and target this year. All our target bucks,
20:34
Speaker 9: we're seeing about a third of them right now. We
20:37
Speaker 9: identified two of them on a cruise the other night
20:39
Speaker 9: around the neighborhood and they were about a mile from
20:41
Speaker 9: the property. In October, November, December, our home range will
20:45
Speaker 9: be where they live. And I'm not saying this to brag.
20:50
Speaker 9: My neighbor last year sent me we had shot. I
20:54
Speaker 9: wounded a buck that was a six year old. Unfortunately,
20:57
Speaker 9: he is one of the ones we saw in the neighborhood,
20:59
Speaker 9: which was a really good thing the other night ll beams.
21:03
Speaker 9: But anyways, we shot two of the other ones, and
21:05
Speaker 9: my neighbor said, well, that was only bucks we were after, So.
21:08
Speaker 6: I don't even know if I'm gonna come back to hunt.
21:11
Speaker 6: I thought he would have he's one hundred acres.
21:13
Speaker 9: Off the edge of us. I thought he would have
21:14
Speaker 9: had other mature bucks to shoot. But he positions his
21:17
Speaker 9: food source and I've talked to him about this, but
21:19
Speaker 9: he positions his food source so it's right up against
21:21
Speaker 9: our property. Well, all the bucks that hit his food
21:24
Speaker 9: live and reside on our property during the daylight. He
21:27
Speaker 9: sent me a text saying that he hadn't seen anywhere
21:30
Speaker 9: else but the last three years he sees those bucks
21:32
Speaker 9: all summer long, and then by late October November, he
21:36
Speaker 9: doesn't see him anymore, and we shoot him on our land,
21:39
Speaker 9: And it's because of cover and food source positioning. I'd
21:43
Speaker 9: rather he actually take his food away from us, develop
21:47
Speaker 9: his own core betting area. Then he can develop separate
21:49
Speaker 9: buck movements and for that we get potentially twice as
21:54
Speaker 9: much or fifty percent more mature bucks in the area
21:57
Speaker 9: that we could all hunt and enjoy.
21:58
Speaker 6: So I'd actually rather see that and try to help
22:00
Speaker 6: them out.
22:01
Speaker 9: And it's not necessarily it is a competition thing to
22:04
Speaker 9: some extent, but at the same time, if you help
22:07
Speaker 9: each other out, and I could think you can build
22:09
Speaker 9: a better dear overall, that helps out the entire neighborhood.
22:13
Speaker 5: Over the years, I feel that Jeff has educated a
22:15
Speaker 5: lot of people on core and non core bucks. And
22:17
Speaker 5: when you really want to be holding deer and I
22:20
Speaker 5: think his perspective is extremely relatable. On a smaller parcel.
22:24
Speaker 5: More likely, you can't hold a bunch of mature bucks
22:27
Speaker 5: the entire year. They're going to be out in different areas. So,
22:30
Speaker 5: hearing that from Jeff, if you're sitting in that exact
22:33
Speaker 5: position right now, you should feel a lot better. Now
22:35
Speaker 5: let's get into what Don Higgins thinks on this exact topic.
22:39
Speaker 3: I can't find a buck to hunt now? What keep looking?
22:45
Speaker 10: I mean bucks that you know in early falls, starting
22:49
Speaker 10: around September one, when they start shitting velvet bachelor groups
22:52
Speaker 10: start breaking up, bucks start shifting their ranges, moving from
22:56
Speaker 10: their summer range to their fall range. I get a
23:00
Speaker 10: lot of bucks on camera in the fall that I
23:02
Speaker 10: did not have pictures of in the summer. If you
23:06
Speaker 10: got a specific goal, no matter what that goal is,
23:09
Speaker 10: it could be you know, one hundred and forty inches,
23:11
Speaker 10: or it could be booner. If you haven't found that
23:14
Speaker 10: buck yet, keep looking. Don't compromise. You know, that's another
23:18
Speaker 10: thing that will separate good hunters from greade hunters. Great
23:22
Speaker 10: hunters don't compromise. When they've got a goal, they stick
23:24
Speaker 10: to that goal no matter how long it takes to
23:27
Speaker 10: reach it. They keep striving for that goal without compromise,
23:30
Speaker 10: So don't give up.
23:33
Speaker 5: How important do you think it is to identify Maybe
23:37
Speaker 5: a lot of people maybe only have one or two spots.
23:39
Speaker 3: And so.
23:41
Speaker 5: For those people, if typically bucks show up in September
23:45
Speaker 5: or October or November, would you tell them not to
23:48
Speaker 5: panic and stick the plan?
23:49
Speaker 2: No?
23:50
Speaker 10: What I would tell them is, why do you only
23:51
Speaker 10: have one or those spots? Is your wife telling you
23:54
Speaker 10: can only hunt here?
23:55
Speaker 3: There?
23:56
Speaker 10: Nobody's tied down. It's not like we're kids depending on
23:59
Speaker 10: our parents to take sut up to the woods and
24:00
Speaker 10: drop us off. We got a call a free adult man.
24:03
Speaker 10: Nobody's tying you down to two hunting properties. Get off
24:06
Speaker 10: your butt and go make something for yourself. Yeah, if
24:10
Speaker 10: you want to kill giants, there's no excuses.
24:14
Speaker 5: There's Don's perspective, and I think there's a common theme
24:17
Speaker 5: that if you've been listening along to each in every
24:19
Speaker 5: single episode, that a lot of this comes down to
24:21
Speaker 5: simply effort. All the tactics that are in here, I
24:24
Speaker 5: understand they don't sound groundbreaking, but it comes down to
24:27
Speaker 5: effort and your ability to spread out your options to
24:31
Speaker 5: up your success and there's still time to do that,
24:34
Speaker 5: and hopefully don just encourage you to consider that before
24:37
Speaker 5: the season officially kicks off. And now we have Thomas
24:41
Speaker 5: Milsna and his perspective on not having a buck to hunt,
24:45
Speaker 5: or not knowing eyone, or sitting there with no intel
24:48
Speaker 5: what to do? And should you panic? All of my
24:51
Speaker 5: friends are sending me giant velvet bucks. They already have
24:54
Speaker 5: a rolodex of Target bucks, and I'm sitting here feeling
24:58
Speaker 5: like a loser on a single buck yet hunt?
25:02
Speaker 3: What do I do? And do I panic? No?
25:06
Speaker 1: No, don't panic. That's the worst thing you can do.
25:09
Speaker 1: Right early in the season like this, I never get
25:12
Speaker 1: worried now. I always go back and lean on that
25:15
Speaker 1: historical data.
25:16
Speaker 3: Right.
25:17
Speaker 1: So again, most of the time, if I'm hunting a
25:19
Speaker 1: deer that's five or six years page, I've got a
25:22
Speaker 1: year or two of history with him at least. So
25:24
Speaker 1: if I go back and I'm if I was anticipating
25:29
Speaker 1: that this buck was going to be around early season
25:31
Speaker 1: and I can't find him in the summertime, then I
25:33
Speaker 1: might be a little bit more worried. But even then
25:35
Speaker 1: I don't worry too much because earlier in the season
25:38
Speaker 1: there's a lot more cover, there's a lot more food.
25:40
Speaker 1: Deer move a lot less, plain and simple. So if
25:43
Speaker 1: he's just not getting pushed around, he's happy where he is.
25:47
Speaker 1: As fall progresses, he's going to shift a little bit, right,
25:49
Speaker 1: So that's the biggest thing to think about. If you
25:51
Speaker 1: were chasing a buck last year or watching a target
25:54
Speaker 1: buck last year, potential target buck an up and comer,
25:57
Speaker 1: and now he's on your target list this year. If
25:59
Speaker 1: you were watching him last year and you were seeing
26:01
Speaker 1: him on your property in the end of October, then
26:03
Speaker 1: don't be alarmed if you don't see him in August. Right,
26:05
Speaker 1: it's a completely different timeframe. If you were seeing him
26:09
Speaker 1: in October last year and then October rolls around this
26:12
Speaker 1: year and you're still not seeing him, then I would
26:14
Speaker 1: worry a little bit, and maybe I would just start wondering, like,
26:17
Speaker 1: did he get killed in his early season range by
26:20
Speaker 1: some other hunter that was anticipating him being there early
26:23
Speaker 1: in the season. Right, Every property is different, every buck
26:26
Speaker 1: is different. The best thing you can do is track
26:29
Speaker 1: each buck individually, you know, focus on those deer on
26:32
Speaker 1: their target deer, maintain or collect information that you can
26:37
Speaker 1: log for that historic data and really really try to
26:42
Speaker 1: dial in the areas of your property and what the
26:45
Speaker 1: habitat has to offer them. You know, that's like the
26:48
Speaker 1: next level of it. Right after anticipating where deer are
26:51
Speaker 1: going to be, Well, ask the question why are they there?
26:54
Speaker 1: Is there more cover based on the time of the year,
26:56
Speaker 1: Is there more food based on the time of the year.
26:58
Speaker 1: You know, all those things go hand in hand with
27:00
Speaker 1: the pressure element that we face all the time. So
27:03
Speaker 1: don't panic if it's summertime, unless that book is a
27:06
Speaker 1: buck that you normally see there in the summer, and
27:09
Speaker 1: then he's normally their early season, you're trying to hunt him.
27:11
Speaker 6: If you normally see him later.
27:12
Speaker 1: In the fall and he's not there in the summer,
27:15
Speaker 1: they're going to shift their home range as always. You
27:17
Speaker 1: know that buck might shift miles or he might shift
27:19
Speaker 1: over the ridge. Every situation is a little bit different.
27:22
Speaker 5: That's been not at least we have Mark Nyan to close
27:24
Speaker 5: out this episode and he's going to tell you about
27:27
Speaker 5: his perspective on this topic for right now and also
27:30
Speaker 5: later in the season.
27:31
Speaker 3: So here we go.
27:32
Speaker 5: We're going to close this out strong with Mark Kenyan.
27:36
Speaker 5: All right, all my friends, they are sending me pictures
27:39
Speaker 5: of a big deer. They're saying, this is going to
27:41
Speaker 5: be my best year yet, and I'm sitting here and
27:44
Speaker 5: I feel like a lame o. I haven't found any
27:46
Speaker 5: deer yet. I have my cameras up. I'm starting to
27:49
Speaker 5: panic because i just want to find a deer that
27:51
Speaker 5: I'll be excited to hunt.
27:53
Speaker 3: What do you do if you're sitting in that position
27:55
Speaker 3: right now? Yeah, well, hear me.
27:58
Speaker 11: It does depend on when somebody's listening to this right now.
28:01
Speaker 11: If if somebody's listening to this right now in August,
28:04
Speaker 11: you know, late summer, that's one thing. If someone were
28:07
Speaker 11: to be listening to this in season, it's another. I'll
28:11
Speaker 11: give both answers to help someone out in either situation.
28:14
Speaker 11: If it's in the summer and they don't have a buck,
28:16
Speaker 11: they're exciting to hunt, it's understandable to be disappointed. And
28:20
Speaker 11: I've had a couple of years or that that's the case.
28:22
Speaker 11: I'm going this's a bummer, but I'm not in panic mode.
28:27
Speaker 11: So much changes from the end of summer until hunting
28:30
Speaker 11: season arrives. There's there's several major shifts. Right There's what
28:35
Speaker 11: a lot of us called the September shift. So when
28:37
Speaker 11: bucks lose their velvet, you get a reshuffling of the deck.
28:40
Speaker 11: I've always found like somewhere on like thirty percent, give
28:43
Speaker 11: or take, something like that shifts to a slightly different range.
28:46
Speaker 11: So there's gonna be new bucks coming in, there's gonna
28:48
Speaker 11: be some bucks leaving. So I'm not you know, what's
28:51
Speaker 11: there in August or July is oftentimes different than what's
28:54
Speaker 11: going to be there in October when I start out,
28:56
Speaker 11: So right out the gate, I know that's going to happen,
28:59
Speaker 11: So I'm not worried yet. Number Two, As that rut
29:03
Speaker 11: starts getting closer and closer, you start getting more movement,
29:06
Speaker 11: more deer moving in. I have some properties that simply
29:09
Speaker 11: don't have a lot of bucks until the rut, Like
29:11
Speaker 11: one farm that I hunt just I know because of
29:14
Speaker 11: the habitat type that's there, it's not a summer place.
29:18
Speaker 11: But come late October, all of a sudden, bucks start
29:20
Speaker 11: trolling through. So you can sometimes learn the DNA of
29:23
Speaker 11: your farm or the DNA of your area and just
29:26
Speaker 11: come to understand that some places just aren't going to
29:29
Speaker 11: have that. So hopefully that's something you've come to learn
29:31
Speaker 11: about your places, and you know, whether or not that's
29:33
Speaker 11: the case. But if you're in an area where it
29:36
Speaker 11: historically is always held deer in the summer, and you
29:40
Speaker 11: know that usually the deer that show up in the
29:41
Speaker 11: summer are also the deer that are there in the fall.
29:43
Speaker 11: There's places like that too, And if it's a given
29:45
Speaker 11: year that's not the case, and like holl of Smokes,
29:48
Speaker 11: there's no mature bucks this year, then I've got some worries.
29:51
Speaker 11: Now I'm thinking, like, what's going on? Why is this
29:53
Speaker 11: year so different than every other year? Is there EHD
29:58
Speaker 11: has something else going on on that I'm you know,
30:01
Speaker 11: that's going to mess me up for the whole year.
30:03
Speaker 11: If I'm in that situation and I have real concerns
30:06
Speaker 11: because of how different this is in the past, while
30:08
Speaker 11: I still know that things still could change, I would
30:13
Speaker 11: at this point be thinking, Okay, how do I diversify? Right, Like,
30:16
Speaker 11: the key to safe investing is a diversified portfolio, and
30:20
Speaker 11: I think that diversified to your portfolio is always good.
30:23
Speaker 11: I did too, So this is something that I'm every
30:26
Speaker 11: year of trying to get a little better at this,
30:28
Speaker 11: and I'm trying to provide myself this kind of safety net.
30:33
Speaker 3: But that is having.
30:34
Speaker 11: Multiple options, so never being dependent on just one spot
30:37
Speaker 11: or just one property or one square mile or one zone.
30:40
Speaker 3: Whatever.
30:40
Speaker 11: It is having as many different areas as possible, so
30:44
Speaker 11: you don't find yourself in a position with nothing to
30:47
Speaker 11: hunt or nothing you're excited about. You've always got an
30:50
Speaker 11: option B, an option C, another zone, another area, another,
30:53
Speaker 11: even if it's just public land, and you're like, hey,
30:56
Speaker 11: if my core spot that I've always hunted the past
30:58
Speaker 11: doesn't have one, at least I I know three or
31:01
Speaker 11: four other public land spots that I can go dive into,
31:04
Speaker 11: learn more about, and find something fun to do over there.
31:06
Speaker 11: I think that's a great thing to have in mind.
31:09
Speaker 11: I've had some years where deer that I think should
31:12
Speaker 11: be around aren't around, and I was so excited about
31:16
Speaker 11: them that I wanted to try to confirm like life
31:18
Speaker 11: or death, or try to refine them or find something else.
31:21
Speaker 11: So that's why I start casting nets. So I start
31:23
Speaker 11: driving around summer evenings and glassing fields and the surrounding neighborhoods,
31:27
Speaker 11: like imagine like growing concentric circles around where they used
31:30
Speaker 11: to be and trying to find that deer again or
31:33
Speaker 11: find another deer. I'm really excited about and then start
31:36
Speaker 11: trying to get new access, so you're trying to find
31:38
Speaker 11: that deer and then start knocking on doors around them
31:40
Speaker 11: and see if you can get access to where a
31:42
Speaker 11: deer you are excited hunt is now, so that if
31:45
Speaker 11: it doesn't show back up on your place in October
31:47
Speaker 11: or November, you have those options. So I think those
31:51
Speaker 11: are a couple different ways of going about this. There's
31:53
Speaker 11: the sit back and relax and feel confident that something's
31:56
Speaker 11: going to happen because you have other options, or because
31:59
Speaker 11: you know that things do circle around, or I think
32:02
Speaker 11: there's to seek it out and go find other opportunities.
32:05
Speaker 11: And I think, you know, some of the conversations that
32:07
Speaker 11: we've had are around like what separates good from grape
32:10
Speaker 11: or what separates you know, those who are consistently killing.
32:14
Speaker 3: A deer versus like every year killed one.
32:15
Speaker 11: And I think like the ones who always have opportunities
32:19
Speaker 11: are typically the ones who don't just kick back and
32:21
Speaker 11: say whatever. They're the ones that, hey, if it's not happening,
32:24
Speaker 11: I'm gonna make it happen somewhere else or in some
32:27
Speaker 11: other way. And so I think that's when it comes
32:29
Speaker 11: down to, like do you have the interest and the
32:31
Speaker 11: willingness to seek them out. In that case, in season,
32:36
Speaker 11: if I don't have a buck to hunt, it's much
32:39
Speaker 11: more of that. So while like the August thing, I
32:42
Speaker 11: might be a little bit more like, Okay, it's probably
32:44
Speaker 11: gonna happen. Still hopefully I'm going a diversified position already,
32:48
Speaker 11: but I'm probably not panicked. But if it's in October
32:51
Speaker 11: or November it's still there's nothing to hunt, then it's like, okay,
32:56
Speaker 11: it's go time. And if it's go time and there's
32:59
Speaker 11: nothing to hunt, and it's like all right, I have
33:01
Speaker 11: to go seek it out elsewhere unless I have different goals,
33:04
Speaker 11: like if your goals aren't around, I have to kill
33:07
Speaker 11: a big drive buck. And instead of like, hey, I
33:08
Speaker 11: want to spend time get my kids out hunting, I
33:10
Speaker 11: want to kill some doves and whatever comes through, whatever
33:13
Speaker 11: you know, whatever happens to be here is fine.
33:16
Speaker 3: Like if that's what make you happy and great, enjoy it,
33:18
Speaker 3: no worries.
33:19
Speaker 11: But if you are like dedicated to killing a five
33:21
Speaker 11: year old or dedicated to killing a certain caliber deer,
33:26
Speaker 11: you can't kill it if it's not there. And so
33:29
Speaker 11: in that case it's time to pound wars. It's time
33:32
Speaker 11: to explore public land. Hopefully you have a diversified portfolio
33:35
Speaker 11: of access. It's time to check all those other places out.
33:39
Speaker 11: Oh and then here's another really important thing to know.
33:43
Speaker 11: I've also been in this position where I thought I
33:45
Speaker 11: didn't have anything to hunt because my cameras weren't showing it,
33:49
Speaker 11: and I made the mistake of assuming that was like
33:51
Speaker 11: gospel truth property. Yeah, it's important not to live and
33:55
Speaker 11: die by your cameras, because I've also thought, oh, this
33:58
Speaker 11: dear's gone, and then I didn't hunt for a while,
34:01
Speaker 11: but then finally, all right, I better go out there,
34:03
Speaker 11: and so I.
34:03
Speaker 3: Do go hunt in the band. There he is.
34:05
Speaker 11: He's just been avoiding the cameras the whole time too.
34:08
Speaker 11: So make sure that you are actually confirming presence of
34:11
Speaker 11: the deer with your eyes yourself, rather than depending on
34:15
Speaker 11: our technology. These tools are great, but do not be
34:18
Speaker 11: too dependent on them, because there's a whole lot slipping
34:21
Speaker 11: by that we never see. And if you're not out
34:23
Speaker 11: there in the field hunting or scouting and doing it
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Speaker 11: yourself old fashioned woodsmanship and hunting. If you're not doing that,
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Speaker 11: you are not in a position to make a defining
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Speaker 11: decision of whether or not there's a buck to hunt
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Speaker 11: or not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a really healthy outlook.
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Speaker 5: And that was really the general consensus across the board
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Speaker 5: of hey, don't panic, and there is a shift that
34:47
Speaker 5: is very real and hopefully, if you have a good farm,
34:49
Speaker 5: your habitat's only going to get better throughout the leading
34:53
Speaker 5: up the season and during the actual season when you'll
34:55
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to hunt them. And that was the
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Speaker 5: general consensus. The other general consensus was keep looking, like,
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Speaker 5: just don't totally bank on one will show up, because
35:05
Speaker 5: one shows up every single year, and go out and
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Speaker 5: maybe get an option, you know, two, three, four, five,
35:11
Speaker 5: sixty seven.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: You can never have too many options.
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Speaker 5: You really can't. And I think that it's a super
35:18
Speaker 5: exciting time. And if you have one on camera, maybe
35:21
Speaker 5: start looking at, Okay, where may he shift and anticipate
35:24
Speaker 5: that maybe you can knock on a door and get permission,
35:27
Speaker 5: or maybe the farm's large enough anything, I think he's
35:29
Speaker 5: going to shift over to this direction. And maybe you
35:31
Speaker 5: have enough data and intel over the years where you
35:34
Speaker 5: feel like you're you're.
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Speaker 3: Just waiting for everything to unfold. And that's an exciting
35:38
Speaker 3: place to be.
35:39
Speaker 5: Next week, we're diving into an exciting question and dilemma
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Speaker 5: to where you're just got access to something brand new.
35:48
Speaker 5: It's late August, it's kind of late to do. It's
35:51
Speaker 5: too late to do a spring food plot. It may
35:53
Speaker 5: or may not be too late to do some major projects.
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Speaker 5: Where you go season is right around the corner, and
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Speaker 5: that'll be next week.
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Speaker 3: There, you guys have it.
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Speaker 5: I hope you enjoyed this episode and what I gathered
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Speaker 5: from this expert panel on the one topic that we
36:09
Speaker 5: all get a little wound up about.
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Speaker 3: If you're sitting here with no.
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Speaker 5: Deer on the farm that you own, you manage, you lease,
36:16
Speaker 5: you pay really close attention to. The thesis is do
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Speaker 5: not panic, but think about what deer may show up
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Speaker 5: from last year. That's probably number one. Number two, do
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Speaker 5: you have good fall habitat? And if the answer is no,
36:30
Speaker 5: you still have time to get an alternate plan and
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Speaker 5: make sure that you're not counting on luck, you're not
36:37
Speaker 5: magically anticipating a big deer to show up. And ultimately,
36:41
Speaker 5: if you have a bunch of bucks on camera right
36:44
Speaker 5: now and you're feeling awesome, but once again, the fall
36:46
Speaker 5: habitat is not going to be ideal. I wouldn't be
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Speaker 5: feeling as confident and I've done I've been on both
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Speaker 5: ends of this perspective throughout the years, and I get
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Speaker 5: a lot less nervous when I don't have Summer Bucks
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Speaker 5: on camera. But I do know the fall habitat is solid.
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Speaker 5: So I hope you guys enjoyed this. Next week, we're
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Speaker 5: diving into a different can of worms and those that
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Speaker 5: just got a new farm, or just got a new lease,
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Speaker 5: or just knocked on the door and is basically starting
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Speaker 5: a ground zero with the season right around the corner.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna share what all these folks would do before
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Speaker 5: the season and what they wouldn't do, which may be
37:23
Speaker 5: more important.
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Speaker 3: So until then, we'll see you next time. See you