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Chuck & Buck 5-5 Hour 4: Ryon Healy, are you hurt or are you injured? And one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll give the guy this. Somebody out there did
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Speaker 1: something funny last night. I'll say that somebody got us
0:23
Speaker 1: thinking that that was Travis Kelcey old dressed up like
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Speaker 1: that at the met Galopy did. Yeah, I got a
0:27
Speaker 1: lot of people thinking that that was Travis Kelcey. It
0:31
Speaker 1: turns out that it wasn't. But there are a lotful
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Speaker 1: lot of people that got hooked in because that guy
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Speaker 1: who originally floated it out there, whether by a mistake
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Speaker 1: or he was intentionally being funny, got us down a
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Speaker 1: certain road and then got us all thinking Travis Kelcey
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Speaker 1: dressed up like a drag queen wizard last night at
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Speaker 1: the met Galop. But it turns out it was Sam Smith.
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Speaker 1: And when you hear that, you're just like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: now it makes tolesn massive amounts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, now
1:01
Speaker 1: I get it. Now, I get it. Taylor hasn't changed
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Speaker 1: him that much. No, All right, nine o'clock hour here,
1:06
Speaker 1: good morning to you all. We've got a keyword for
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Speaker 1: that cash. Replicate that out that Sam Smith wore. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Met Gala, I think you can do a cheaper version
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Speaker 1: of it but still pull off the same affect. Probably
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Speaker 1: all right. Joining us on the program is Ryan Heally.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen him in anything more than a cool
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Speaker 1: looking hat in a baseball uniform. That's pretty much what
1:36
Speaker 1: Ryan Ealy goes right now, He's just in a baseball uniform.
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Speaker 1: Here's where's it around the house?
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Speaker 2: Did I hop on the right show? What are we
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Speaker 2: talking about this morning?
1:46
Speaker 1: Hey?
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Speaker 3: I thought this was a Mariner's focus show.
1:48
Speaker 1: What do we do? I was told you were running
1:50
Speaker 1: a minute late, so I had time to fill and
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Speaker 1: I thought I would bring up the Travis Kelcey story
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Speaker 1: which I brought up earlier in the show and mistakenly
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Speaker 1: thought it was Travis Kelsey dressed like that at the
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Speaker 1: met Gala.
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Speaker 2: Apologize just I want to apologize formally for all the
2:05
Speaker 2: listeners out there that that's how your your Tuesday morning started.
2:09
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk some Mariners baseball. We are gonna turn
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Speaker 2: this around. It's gonna be a great bounce back effort.
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Speaker 1: All right, So you're saying I was in an O
2:18
Speaker 1: two hole? Uh? And now you're going to uh, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna hit and I got you all right, all right,
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Speaker 1: I got you, I pick you up. Well, it's a
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Speaker 1: great place to start, because, man, as we just finished
2:30
Speaker 1: discussing Ashley and I, I'm not saying that I overreacted
2:35
Speaker 1: and felt at any moment like this team's terrible. I
2:38
Speaker 1: have not felt that way so far this season, but
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Speaker 1: I did have I did have a moment last night
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Speaker 1: where I'm like, are we really We're really gonna have
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Speaker 1: this first half again. We're gonna have this crap first
2:49
Speaker 1: half and have to pull it out somehow in the
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Speaker 1: second half. This is what they're gonna do to us again,
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Speaker 1: aren't they? This year? That sixth inning, that atmosphere there
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Speaker 1: felt dead, the team's chances Dwinn felt dead, and yet
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Speaker 1: they come up in the bottom of the six then
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Speaker 1: score five times. What were you thinking in that transition
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Speaker 1: from the top of the six to the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the sixth.
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Speaker 2: I'll validate your feelings there because as I was watching
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Speaker 2: the game, trying to process the same emotions of coming
3:20
Speaker 2: off a tough weekend, one of the hottest teams in
3:22
Speaker 2: Midge League Baseball coming into Seattle to play the Mariners.
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Speaker 2: I had those same feelings of Oh, no, it's just
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Speaker 2: really gonna happen. Is this really how the offense is
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Speaker 2: going to show up? And then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: how quickly you can change. I felt like it was
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Speaker 2: a great analogy for just the sport of baseball and
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Speaker 2: how quickly it can emotionally manipulate you to feel the
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Speaker 2: highs and the lows in the drop of a hat,
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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, two homers, change of
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Speaker 2: course of the game. The leverage arms come in from
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Speaker 2: the Mariners, they slam the door, and you're like, oh, wow, all.
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Speaker 3: Is good again.
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Speaker 2: We can wake up tomorrow, we can all enjoy the
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Speaker 2: beautiful weather.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is beautiful weather going on here right now.
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Speaker 1: Luke Rayley hugged Edgar Martinez after his three run homer
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Speaker 1: last night. What I read into that was that Edgar
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Speaker 1: obviously told him either something before the game or something
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Speaker 1: before the bat even look for this and do this,
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Speaker 1: and then it came together. Otherwise I don't think Luke
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Speaker 1: is going and running up and hugging the legendary Edgar
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Speaker 1: Martinez last night. Do you feel the same way? Do
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Speaker 1: you feel? I mean, I'm sure that's happened to you,
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Speaker 1: that somebody just gave you the right piece of advice
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Speaker 1: at the right moment, and it worked out in that
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Speaker 1: particular at bat.
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Speaker 2: I think it was more human to human than it
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Speaker 2: was coach the player. And I've had situations like this
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Speaker 2: with Edgar when he was hitting coach in twenty and eighteen,
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Speaker 2: when I was on the Mariners. He was so empathetic
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Speaker 2: to the struggles. And for a man who's a Hall
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Speaker 2: of Famer, who was always a tremendous player, he empathized
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Speaker 2: with players going through struggles because even though in the
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Speaker 2: macro of his you know, career, it was tremendous, there
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Speaker 2: was always struggles that were within it. And there was
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Speaker 2: a moment that I had in Texas in twenty eighteen
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Speaker 2: where he sent me this really really long text just
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Speaker 2: trying to give me perspective of like, this is part
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Speaker 2: of it, It's gonna be okay, like just helping to
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Speaker 2: reassure you. And my guess from the outside looking in
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Speaker 2: is that Luke Raley has been grinding, not just you know,
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Speaker 2: numbers wise, but mentally. That's what this game does to you,
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Speaker 2: makes you grind mentally, and Edgar probably had some words
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Speaker 2: of wisdom to share with Luke earlier in the day,
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Speaker 2: whether it's in the batting cage and the dugout in
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Speaker 2: the clubhouse, and it was a moment where Luke was like, Wow, Edgar,
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Speaker 2: you were right. I was able to push through that
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Speaker 2: moment and they just embraced I think it was way
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Speaker 2: more human to human instead of like, hey, go sit
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Speaker 2: on this breaking ball and put in the right field seats,
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Speaker 2: all right, kid, Like, I don't think it was that.
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Speaker 2: I think it was Hey, this is part of it,
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Speaker 2: but what are you gonna do next?
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Speaker 3: Something like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Ryan Healey who had this former Mariner now
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Speaker 1: doing Mariner's television and last night just watching it like
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Speaker 1: the rest of us, though from the comfort of his
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Speaker 1: own home, wearing normal looking clothes, and he's joining us
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Speaker 1: here today. We got a brand new sponsor, which will
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Speaker 1: tell you about here in a moment. But let's talk
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Speaker 1: about JP Crawford's home run. Both Bucky and I have
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Speaker 1: been highly critical of JP Crawford in the past for
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Speaker 1: swinging for the fences way too frequently. Bucky does point
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Speaker 1: out that there is a time where even a ten
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Speaker 1: homer a guy a year, guy like JP you don't
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Speaker 1: have a problem with him saying I'm gonna I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: swing for the downs this time, and he connected last
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Speaker 1: night for what ended up being the game winning home run.
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Speaker 1: So your thoughts on whether or not JP does fall
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Speaker 1: prey to that and whether or not that was the
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Speaker 1: right time to let it unleash.
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Speaker 2: I had a chance to speak with JP about that
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Speaker 2: while I was in Seattle, and he brought that up
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Speaker 2: because I was talking about his early work in some
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Speaker 2: of the moves he was making. There was like a
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Speaker 2: specific move that I saw with his barrel where his
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Speaker 2: barrel kind of loads towards the pitcher and then he's
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Speaker 2: trying to be very direct to the baseball. So I
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Speaker 2: was just talking through some feels and some cues with him,
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Speaker 2: and he was telling me, he's like, man that what
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Speaker 2: I was trying to feel is just as short and
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Speaker 2: directed as I can. He goes when I get out
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Speaker 2: of whack, I feel like I'm almost side crunching and
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Speaker 2: crashing towards the baseball, and then I end up just
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Speaker 2: unloading this big swing. So all the fans and the
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Speaker 2: media they think I'm trying to swing for the fences,
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Speaker 2: whereas realistically my body's just all out of whack, and
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Speaker 2: I can't deliver the normal swing that I'm used to delivering.
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Speaker 2: So it's not that the intent is trying to do damage.
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Speaker 2: It's the intent of JP's trying to catch up with
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Speaker 2: one hundred mile an hour fastball, and when his body
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Speaker 2: feels unorganized during the loading process of his swing, it's
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Speaker 2: gonna look unorganized when he fires. So what it looks
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Speaker 2: like isn't always truthfully what's happening inside of the player,
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Speaker 2: which is why I like to get their perspective on
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Speaker 2: what are you working on?
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Speaker 3: What are you grinding on?
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Speaker 2: But I know what it looks like, and I have
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Speaker 2: had those thoughts to you, But when you hear it
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Speaker 2: from his mouth, it makes you think, all right, JP
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Speaker 2: is not a forty home run guy a year. He's
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Speaker 2: not Nelson Cruz up there. I don't think that's his intent,
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Speaker 2: But I do know as a hitter how quickly you
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Speaker 2: can get out of whack and how uncomfortable it can
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Speaker 2: feel in a big league batter's box when you're competing
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Speaker 2: against plus plus arms.
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Speaker 1: So when something like last night happens and you get
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Speaker 1: to be the hitting hero, does that get you from
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Speaker 1: out of whack Are you now in whack?
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Speaker 2: The honest, the honest truth, Chucky, is that you are
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Speaker 2: constantly fighting that battle every single day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a daily.
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Speaker 2: Battle of how sore is my body? Do I have
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Speaker 2: my legs underneath me? Am I able to execute my
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Speaker 2: routine and feel like my swing is in the right order?
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Speaker 2: The sequence is the famous word, is my sequence in
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Speaker 2: the right order? And there are plenty of days through
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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two games where you can step
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Speaker 2: in the batting cage and go, I ain't got it today,
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Speaker 2: but I still have to go out there and compete,
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Speaker 2: and sometimes you have your best Gad's doing that as
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Speaker 2: you don't. But the one thing JP's always bronze. He
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Speaker 2: gets on base. And the players that stick around the
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Speaker 2: major leagues are able to get on base even when
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Speaker 2: they're not hitting, because the game of baseball is who
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Speaker 2: can create the least amount of outs. JP Grawford does
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Speaker 2: a great job of that. And what's so impressive is, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's batten two to eight, which isn't blowing your socks off,
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Speaker 2: but he's getting on base at an almost a three seventy clip.
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Speaker 2: That's really impressive. That's well above league average, So the
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Speaker 2: value that JP's bring even when he's out of whack
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Speaker 2: is still high.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Healey is with us right here on Chuck and
9:31
Speaker 1: Buck will be joining us every week thanks to our
9:34
Speaker 1: new sponsor, Dino's Pub in Renton. And talking along those
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Speaker 1: lines about Cole Young because I mean, I I pitched
9:43
Speaker 1: in college, didn't hit in college, so the high school
9:47
Speaker 1: careers were the hitting it. But I did enough hitting
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Speaker 1: in my life that I know that whenever I found
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Speaker 1: my groove, I'm like, ah, now I know what I
9:55
Speaker 1: was doing wrong. But I think the biggest, bigger mystery
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Speaker 1: is when you're red hot and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden you somehow fall out of it. You're like, what
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Speaker 1: did I start doing differently? And now maybe we're watching
10:06
Speaker 1: that with Cole Young. I mean, he just looked so
10:08
Speaker 1: locked in on that road trip and now all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden he's been zero for four ever since he
10:13
Speaker 1: got back home. Talk about that process of where you
10:17
Speaker 1: feel like you're locked in and then for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: you just lose it a little bit.
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Speaker 2: And that's it's baseball for you. And this is what
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Speaker 2: high school college hitters especially don't really understand about the
10:28
Speaker 2: challenges that professional baseball brings when you have opportunities every
10:33
Speaker 2: single day to step out there in the batter's box,
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Speaker 2: you're again for AB's a night. That's almost thirty at
10:37
Speaker 2: bats a week, over one hundred a month. It's a
10:39
Speaker 2: lot of opportunities to succeed and or fail. And you
10:43
Speaker 2: don't also have control over what pitches are coming. And
10:46
Speaker 2: what my eyes are telling me is that Cole Young
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Speaker 2: is getting pitched a little bit differently. Yeah, it's going
10:50
Speaker 2: to happen to young, young players because now they're seeing
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Speaker 2: where Cole Young has success in the strike zone, whether
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Speaker 2: it's against a right handed pitcher or a left handed pitcher,
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Speaker 2: So they know where not to go, and now they're
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Speaker 2: experimenting with where can they go. And I've seen, like
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Speaker 2: Cole Young has been great against left tened pitchers this year, right,
11:07
Speaker 2: but I've seen a lot of lefties that are leaving
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Speaker 2: breaking balls.
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Speaker 3: Up and in on coal.
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Speaker 2: So he's committing to the pitch, but it's not breaking
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Speaker 2: to where it's supposed to be, and that can throw
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Speaker 2: off your vision a little bit. Now that tunnel that
11:19
Speaker 2: you're looking for the pitches out of hand at it's
11:21
Speaker 2: not ending up in the location you're supposed to. So
11:23
Speaker 2: now your depth perception, your strike zone awareness can all
11:26
Speaker 2: of a sudden feel out of whack, and then it's
11:27
Speaker 2: just a snowball effects from there. So it happens both ways,
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Speaker 2: positive and negative, and I think we're seeing right now
11:32
Speaker 2: in the last four games the negative spiral a little
11:35
Speaker 2: bit for Coal and then now it's a challenge of
11:37
Speaker 2: how quickly can this young hitter recapture that good feeling
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Speaker 2: and execute a good bet.
11:41
Speaker 1: Hitters can slump, Entire teams can slump hitting the baseball,
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Speaker 1: UH pitchers can slump. Entire rotations can slump, entire bullpens
11:51
Speaker 1: can slump hitting a baseball, can defense slump? And I
11:56
Speaker 1: say that because right now the Mariners have the worst
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Speaker 1: defense metrically in the entire sport. So I'm wondering, are
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Speaker 1: they in a slump or do we have to worry
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Speaker 1: we don't have a good defensive team.
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Speaker 2: I've been asking myself the same question over the last
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Speaker 2: few weeks that I'm trying to watch the Mariners through
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Speaker 2: a harsher lens on the defensive side of the baseball
12:18
Speaker 2: to see if there are reasons why these one run
12:21
Speaker 2: games are getting lost. But I'm not seeing glaring signs
12:26
Speaker 2: right now. We talked about this last week. Julio does
12:29
Speaker 2: look a little interesting in centerfield right now. Even on
12:32
Speaker 2: a routine fly ball that he had last night, he
12:35
Speaker 2: got camped underneath it. None of the back pedal three
12:37
Speaker 2: or four times and the like Cotton goes, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: like it shocked him.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the outfield to know how
12:43
Speaker 2: that can get out of whack. I know JP has
12:46
Speaker 2: been taking a lot of heat for his defense. I
12:48
Speaker 2: don't want to go down that route. I think JP
12:50
Speaker 2: burns so much value and over the macro of the season,
12:53
Speaker 2: the entirety of the season, I think the numbers will
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Speaker 2: level out. I do think there are pockets, though, Chuck,
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Speaker 2: where you know, offense, defense pitching can struggle, and I'm
13:02
Speaker 2: hoping that this is one of those pockets where the
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Speaker 2: defense of the Maritors isn't shining. But knowing that as
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Speaker 2: the season progresses, they will continue to get better, especially
13:10
Speaker 2: as roles solidify a little bit. There's a lot of
13:12
Speaker 2: platoons going on around Leo Reebos has taking over third base.
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Speaker 2: That won't be the final solution for the Mariners. I'm
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Speaker 2: curious how it does progress and if they do attack
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Speaker 2: it aggressively with making some changes.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Heally, our guest every week here on the radio program,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about injuries because they're starting to mount on
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Speaker 1: this team right now. I almost feel a little guilty
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Speaker 1: because I was the guy a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: like Dan's got to start pitching relievers on back to
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Speaker 1: back nights. I mean, you just can't. Just you can't
13:43
Speaker 1: have all of these rules and then you end up
13:47
Speaker 1: not putting much focus on actually winning the game, jes
13:50
Speaker 1: So you can preserve relievers for down the line. And
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Speaker 1: yet he started pitching guys on back to back nights,
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Speaker 1: and we lose Spire and we lose Brash, And now
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder what. I hope he didn't take
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Speaker 1: my advice because that kind of feels like bad advice
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Speaker 1: at this point. But you know, I know injuries are
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Speaker 1: part of this game, but when they start mounting up
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Speaker 1: like this and they're being very precautionous, there's not been
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Speaker 1: one injury that they didn't say it's nothing serious, we
14:19
Speaker 1: just want to take the ultimate precaution. They said that
14:22
Speaker 1: about Bryce Miller and he still hasn't made his debut
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Speaker 1: so far this year. So how careful do you have
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Speaker 1: to be with these types of injuries at this part
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Speaker 1: of the year to make sure your guys are available
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Speaker 1: to you when it matters most and very much so.
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Speaker 2: The individual player where they're at in their career does
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Speaker 2: determine some of the timeline and meaning the players can
14:43
Speaker 2: push a little bit harder, especially if you're in a
14:45
Speaker 2: contract year or maybe if you're an arbitration and you
14:48
Speaker 2: know the games play in the bats really matter.
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Speaker 3: There's circumstances with that.
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Speaker 2: The Mariners overall are taking a stand though, and just
14:57
Speaker 2: because I think the goals are bigger, meaning they they've
15:00
Speaker 2: been talking about World Series this entire year, entire spring training,
15:04
Speaker 2: ever since last season ended. So when that happens, you
15:08
Speaker 2: have to make decisions in April and May that are
15:10
Speaker 2: on more of the cautious side to make sure that
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Speaker 2: you're setting up the roster long term for success. Losing
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Speaker 2: multiple leverage arms though in the bullpen and Spire and
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Speaker 2: Brash is not ideal. Yeah, you saw what the presents are.
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Speaker 2: The lack of presence of cal Rawley in the lineup
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Speaker 2: does over the weekend. I think that we're gonna see
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Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan and Victor Roebliz come back in the next
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Speaker 2: week or two, which I hope that starts the trend
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Speaker 2: of positive movement forward of creating this team to be
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Speaker 2: at full strength again. But the injuries are gonna happen,
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Speaker 2: and I think their mindset, and I'm assuming here their
15:43
Speaker 2: mindset is let's be cautious in the front end of
15:45
Speaker 2: the season because we want these players to be one
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Speaker 2: hundred and percent by the time we get to August, September,
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Speaker 2: and especially October.
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Speaker 1: So what would you do with cal right now? I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're not giving any specifics, they're just saying general soreness
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Speaker 1: on the side. Would you just because we're still early
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Speaker 1: May at this point, just say let's just play it safe,
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Speaker 1: give him ten days to rest, let's not push this thing,
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Speaker 1: or or how would you handle it?
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Speaker 2: I was listening to Aaron Goldsmith and Dave Valley talked
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Speaker 2: about that last night, and they both alluded to that
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Speaker 2: fact of, you know, just backdated till last Friday or
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Speaker 2: last Thursday, whatever the off day is, give him the
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Speaker 2: full week off and then have him come back on
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Speaker 2: the road trip and see how he feels. But the
16:26
Speaker 2: fact that they're not sharing any information or specifics on
16:30
Speaker 2: it is telling us that the imaging is apparently taking
16:33
Speaker 2: forty eight to seventy two hours to get back, which
16:35
Speaker 2: we know is not true. At the major league level,
16:37
Speaker 2: you can get that back immediately. Or they're all kind
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Speaker 2: of conversing between the front office, coaching staff, and cal
16:43
Speaker 2: to decide what they want to do engaging his soreness
16:46
Speaker 2: on a day to day basis. But at this point,
16:49
Speaker 2: I don't know how you navigate this. But if they're
16:51
Speaker 2: gonna be consistent with how they've handled every other inn injury,
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Speaker 2: then they will aisle him and they will give him
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Speaker 2: the full ten days and then navigate where to go
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Speaker 2: from there.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Emerson Hancock. I mean, let's face it,
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Speaker 1: he's he needs to be in this starting rotation Ryan,
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Speaker 1: So to me, I mean after that performance on Saturday
17:12
Speaker 1: night that they blew for him, this is no longer
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Speaker 1: a Emerson versus Anyone conversation. To me, he locked it
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Speaker 1: down on Saturday, and I don't know what they're gonna decide.
17:23
Speaker 1: Six man rotation or Emerson excuse me, Bryce versus Castillo
17:29
Speaker 1: seemed to be the only two options to me, because
17:32
Speaker 1: to me, Hancock is not even a consideration to be
17:35
Speaker 1: removed from the starting rotation right now.
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I'd be surprised to see any starting pitcher
17:42
Speaker 2: removed from the rotation right now, just based off of
17:45
Speaker 2: where the season is at. I don't see anyone besides
17:50
Speaker 2: Hancock who is throwing lights out every single time.
17:53
Speaker 3: The step on the noun.
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Speaker 2: George Kirby's probably the next closest in their rotation. If
17:58
Speaker 2: we're talking about the health of this starting rotation and
18:01
Speaker 2: the importance of that to the rest of the season,
18:02
Speaker 2: the six man rotation would make the most sense. But
18:05
Speaker 2: one thing I remember justin Hollander saying, he said, I'm
18:09
Speaker 2: never going to lose sleep over having too many good
18:12
Speaker 2: starting pitchers. So this is a problem that is great
18:15
Speaker 2: for the Mariners to have. There is no one that
18:18
Speaker 2: is happier for Emerson Hancock than every player in front
18:21
Speaker 2: office member in the Mariners organization. This is unbelievable to
18:26
Speaker 2: see his progress and his growth, and to have the
18:28
Speaker 2: fourteen strikeout performance, the confidence to send him back out
18:31
Speaker 2: there in the seventh. The fact that they couldn't get
18:34
Speaker 2: him a win was the only devastating part of that
18:36
Speaker 2: of that day, but there was so much positive that
18:38
Speaker 2: came from it. Emerson Hancock's gone from a placeholder to
18:42
Speaker 2: now being a staple in that rotation, and I want
18:44
Speaker 2: to celebrate the mental determination and grit that it takes,
18:48
Speaker 2: you know, for a young major leaguer to break through
18:50
Speaker 2: that barrier of what you've been labeled as up to
18:53
Speaker 2: this point in his career.
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Speaker 1: In theory, you could screw up even an Emerson Hancock,
18:58
Speaker 1: who's obviously in a rhythm with his routine. You could
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Speaker 1: screw up a George Kirby who's in a rhythm with
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Speaker 1: his routine. But also in theory, I mean couldn't you also,
19:08
Speaker 1: since you've got a couple of relievers down, if you
19:10
Speaker 1: went to a six man rotation in theory, maybe your
19:13
Speaker 1: starting pitchers can go even deeper into games and could
19:17
Speaker 1: help kind of make up for those outs that you
19:19
Speaker 1: need at the back end from on a day to
19:22
Speaker 1: day basis. So which theory do you do you prefer?
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Speaker 1: Do you fear the disruption of those who are in
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Speaker 1: their rhythm and a five man rotation or where are
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?
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Speaker 2: I think someone or something is going to get disrupted
19:40
Speaker 2: during this And if the main goal that everyone can
19:45
Speaker 2: agree upon is health and longety through the season and
19:48
Speaker 2: reminding of five plus now you know Bresce Miller coming
19:52
Speaker 2: back all six those pitchers. That the health of this
19:54
Speaker 2: rotation is going to lead this team to the promised land.
19:58
Speaker 2: I think that they can rally behind and that also,
20:01
Speaker 2: I know this pitching staff does a tremendous job of
20:03
Speaker 2: filling up the strike zone and especially strike one, keeping
20:06
Speaker 2: the pitch count low. And he saw, you know, Logan
20:08
Speaker 2: Gilbert who even gave up a couple of home runs
20:10
Speaker 2: in the sixth last night to be able to he
20:12
Speaker 2: was in that halfway through that sixth inning with eighty pitches,
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Speaker 2: like he's starting to look better. And we don't see
20:19
Speaker 2: a lot of Mariners pitchers that are walking the house.
20:23
Speaker 2: Castillo has had a couple of starts this year where's
20:25
Speaker 2: looked like that. I think they can get behind it.
20:27
Speaker 2: If health is the the road to the World Series,
20:32
Speaker 2: then they're gonna get behind it and adjustice to their
20:34
Speaker 2: routines accordingly.
20:35
Speaker 1: If there's a picture dominating double a like few pitchers
20:39
Speaker 1: have ever dominated double a, how far away is he
20:42
Speaker 1: from being in a major league rotation.
20:47
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if we saw him before the first
20:51
Speaker 2: half is over. I think the Mariners are going to
20:54
Speaker 2: want to see him succeed in Triple A as well,
20:57
Speaker 2: but they're also not going to bring up a prospect
20:59
Speaker 2: of that cal until there's a spot for him to hold,
21:02
Speaker 2: because it's not going to say, hey, come, come to
21:04
Speaker 2: a spot, start here, and then you know, all right,
21:07
Speaker 2: see you later. He's not going to be a fill in,
21:09
Speaker 2: meaning Kate Anderson, He's not going to be a fill in.
21:11
Speaker 2: There's gonna have to be a runway that opens up
21:13
Speaker 2: for him to enter the big leagues. Otherwise, this was
21:16
Speaker 2: his first season in professional baseball. He shut down all
21:19
Speaker 2: last year after throwing a ton of innings in college.
21:22
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna take the time with Kate Ederson's development,
21:25
Speaker 2: celebrate the progress, but they're gonna want to see him
21:28
Speaker 2: fail in the minor leagues before they bring him up
21:30
Speaker 2: to the major leagues. Failing in the major leagues for
21:33
Speaker 2: your first time ever in your professional career is not
21:35
Speaker 2: a formula for success because that is a lot of eyeballs,
21:38
Speaker 2: a lot of opinions all of a sudden on you,
21:40
Speaker 2: and it's really tough. It makes it harder to bounce
21:42
Speaker 2: back at that type of a level.
21:44
Speaker 1: Well, it was obvious that last Thursday the Mariners won
21:48
Speaker 1: their biggest game of the year so far, and they
21:51
Speaker 1: really carried that momentum into the weekend. Ryan, I mean,
21:57
Speaker 1: felt so huge last week to get back to five
22:01
Speaker 1: hundred and then crap the bed over the weekend against
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Royals. So obviously one hand has not
22:10
Speaker 1: washed the other when it comes to momentum at this
22:13
Speaker 1: time of the year in this crazy ass sport that
22:15
Speaker 1: you chose to play for a living. But what gonna
22:19
Speaker 1: win like last night? Mean to get a team out
22:22
Speaker 1: of its duldrums to pull that thing off last night,
22:25
Speaker 1: same thing. There's no effect at all, just a new
22:27
Speaker 1: day to day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Groundhog's Day.
22:30
Speaker 2: And I was trying to tell that to you last
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Speaker 2: week when you were labeling a Wednesday day game in
22:34
Speaker 2: Minnesota the World Series for the Mariners this year, and
22:37
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm Chuck, this is Groundhog's Day. The players
22:42
Speaker 2: have this responsibility of blinders on, ear muffs on, I
22:45
Speaker 2: don't hear you, I don't see you. Your opinions are yours,
22:49
Speaker 2: go spread them to the world. But I'm gonna do
22:50
Speaker 2: my job today as a player, and it has to
22:53
Speaker 2: be like that. That's why these players have routines. That's
22:56
Speaker 2: why they do the same things over and over and
22:57
Speaker 2: over again, because it's Groundhogs Day for one hundred and
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Speaker 2: sixty two of these things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, lesson learned. Lave me lesson lesson learned.
23:07
Speaker 1: You would think with this gray Beard, I'd learned enough
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Speaker 1: my birthday is the fourth. I'm not planning to come
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Speaker 1: good might be a good opportunity.
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Speaker 3: I'll be home with the kiddos, so you might to celebrate.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, we do it, rolling it
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Speaker 4: Do I have to go to work the next day?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: You have to work that out with your boss.
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Speaker 5: I think we should get a birthday day off for you.
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Speaker 5: Well it's fine with me, Yeah, sure, I'm in.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, all right, well we'll figure
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Speaker 1: All right, So look, I'm going to start this conversation
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Speaker 1: off by saying, it is just one of the most
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Speaker 1: unfair things that a sports fan or a sports talk
26:17
Speaker 1: show host can do is to question someone's pain tolerance,
26:22
Speaker 1: what kind of injury that they have, How they should
26:28
Speaker 1: or should not be playing, how hard they should be going.
26:31
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have the information, and it is
26:34
Speaker 1: blatantly unfair to sort of suggest that guy should have
26:38
Speaker 1: played through that, and that guy should have played through it.
26:40
Speaker 1: Look at that guy, he's playing through that, and yet
26:42
Speaker 1: you're not playing through yours. We have no idea we
26:45
Speaker 1: be hurt that bad. Yeah, we can't. We're not doctors.
26:48
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't have the inside information as
26:51
Speaker 1: to exactly what they're being told, what exactly that they
26:54
Speaker 1: are risking. But I'll say this now that I've clarified it,
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Speaker 1: all boy, it just doesn't look good when you have
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Speaker 1: one guy in the NBA playoffs who's showing up for
27:06
Speaker 1: game number one after a knee injury that looks awful.
27:11
Speaker 1: That looked awful, and then he is ahead of schedule
27:15
Speaker 1: according to all reports, by like a week and decides
27:18
Speaker 1: to shoot up for game number one against the San
27:21
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs and then leads them in the fourth quarter
27:25
Speaker 1: in essence to victory. Got a lot of other contributions
27:28
Speaker 1: from a lot of Timberwolves last night. Meanwhile, the Boston
27:31
Speaker 1: Celtics are like, our guy couldn't at least try to
27:36
Speaker 1: play in game seven and if it's seven, yeah, game seven,
27:39
Speaker 1: and if it didn't work out, then we understand. But
27:43
Speaker 1: he didn't even try. They didn't even let him try.
27:46
Speaker 1: I mean game seven, seasons on the line here, or
27:50
Speaker 1: if you're a Houston Rocket fan, our guy only played
27:55
Speaker 1: one game. He didn't even try to play again. He
27:58
Speaker 1: had two different injuries. The reason that he wouldn't try
28:01
Speaker 1: and play through last night. You're really as unfair as
28:06
Speaker 1: it is. You can't help but question it, even if
28:09
Speaker 1: you are trying to be actually as big hearted and
28:11
Speaker 1: as sympathetic as you possibly can be, because you don't
28:15
Speaker 1: know the injuries. There got to be this element as
28:18
Speaker 1: a sports fan where you're like, could you at least
28:21
Speaker 1: done what Anthony Edwards isd and just go out on
28:23
Speaker 1: the court and see if maybe you could play through it.
28:26
Speaker 1: It was kind of an important time of the year.
28:29
Speaker 4: I would have thought so, And I yes, I fully agree.
28:31
Speaker 5: You can't sit there, especially not as a fan and say, oh,
28:35
Speaker 5: you should have been able to play. You should have
28:36
Speaker 5: been able to do this and act like we would
28:39
Speaker 5: be able to do that in that situation, because first off,
28:42
Speaker 5: we're not near as athletic to be in that situation
28:44
Speaker 5: in the first place. But I do think as far
28:46
Speaker 5: as ye like coaches and things like that, and teammates,
28:50
Speaker 5: you would think, I don't. I wouldn't actually even think
28:53
Speaker 5: they would have to ask him. I would think it
28:55
Speaker 5: would be I gotta at least try. I've got to
28:58
Speaker 5: at least be there, got at least be in you. Yeah,
29:00
Speaker 5: ready to go if there's something I can do to help, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Even if you're just in uniform.
29:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:06
Speaker 1: I mean you've heard the famous Willis Reid story right
29:10
Speaker 1: for the New York Knicks, and that he you know,
29:12
Speaker 1: the famous scene where he walks back out onto the
29:15
Speaker 1: court in the middle of the game and he wasn't
29:17
Speaker 1: supposed to play, and he's in full you know, warm
29:20
Speaker 1: up suit, and then he's got his uniform and he
29:22
Speaker 1: rips it off and he heads on onto the court.
29:25
Speaker 1: He really didn't play very well, he didn't play for
29:28
Speaker 1: that long. And yet that's the most iconic moment in
29:32
Speaker 1: Nick's history, was Willis Reid just coming in the middle
29:36
Speaker 1: of the game, saying, I can't sit here and watch
29:38
Speaker 1: this go down without trying. And he, in the middle
29:41
Speaker 1: of the game, comes out there on the court. The
29:42
Speaker 1: place goes nuts, the team gets inspired, and they go
29:45
Speaker 1: on to win the game, even though he didn't really
29:47
Speaker 1: contribute anything to it other than that moment. We still
29:52
Speaker 1: think about that as sports fans. And look, every single
29:57
Speaker 1: time I ever bring this up to a player or co,
30:00
Speaker 1: no matter the sport, they will tell you that's up
30:03
Speaker 1: to our medical people. And I don't know if that's
30:06
Speaker 1: the passing of the bucket. That just kind of puts
30:08
Speaker 1: the blame our doctors are saying it. We're not telling
30:12
Speaker 1: him to play or not to play. He doesn't have
30:14
Speaker 1: any choice in the matter. It's our medical people that
30:18
Speaker 1: have decided he can't go. That's what they all say.
30:22
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that that's true. I'm sure it's true.
30:24
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that it is unfair that Celtics fans
30:27
Speaker 1: are questioning Jason Tatum's toughness and Rocket fans are questioning
30:31
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's willingness. All of that. I'm sure that is
30:35
Speaker 1: entirely unfair. But it's hard not to see that last
30:38
Speaker 1: night and think to yourself, you couldn't try well.
30:43
Speaker 5: And as I said, yeah, and at least, as you said,
30:45
Speaker 5: to be in uniform, because the least you're at that point,
30:48
Speaker 5: giving your team hope that at some point you could
30:52
Speaker 5: step in there if they really need you. If you're
30:54
Speaker 5: in street clothes, I mean, there's nothing that they're going
30:57
Speaker 5: to be able to get out of you at all.
30:58
Speaker 5: And it seems like also when you're in street clothes,
31:01
Speaker 5: you're honestly paying less attention to the game than when
31:03
Speaker 5: you're in uniform. I don't know, when you see when
31:06
Speaker 5: you see guys sitting on the bench and they're in
31:07
Speaker 5: street clothes, they're usually just having side conversations and laughing
31:10
Speaker 5: and doing other things, versus if you're in uniform, you're
31:14
Speaker 5: more locked into what's going on in the game.
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Speaker 1: And look, we understand you could turn it into a
31:19
Speaker 1: bigger injury.
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Speaker 5: And that's the only yes, then you should never if
31:23
Speaker 5: there's no risk to turn it into a bigger injury.
31:25
Speaker 4: Though it's just gonna be uncomfortable.
31:26
Speaker 1: Well and that, but that's another thing. It's like, you know,
31:31
Speaker 1: if it's and this is where it's unfair, and this
31:34
Speaker 1: is where it's delicate. It's like you do have all
31:37
Speaker 1: off season to recover. I mean, what are you talking about,
31:39
Speaker 1: like a more serious injury, like you're gonna strain it further. Yeah,
31:44
Speaker 1: are are are we talking about ligaments that are barely
31:47
Speaker 1: attached right.
31:48
Speaker 4: Now and then it's gonna require surgery.
31:50
Speaker 1: You're gonna blow your knee out or something.
31:52
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:53
Speaker 1: I mean, think about what happened with Haliburton last year
31:55
Speaker 1: because he got he was playing on a bad leg
31:58
Speaker 1: and he ends up blowing out of his skill and
32:00
Speaker 1: he missed the entire next season. And so that's a
32:03
Speaker 1: cautionary tale. Yeah, like, look look at what happened to Alibert,
32:06
Speaker 1: and we don't want that to happen to Jason Tatum.
32:08
Speaker 4: You know, totally understandable.
32:10
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, and I don't want
32:12
Speaker 1: to be that fan. I don't want to be that
32:14
Speaker 1: talk show host. But man, it sure does not look
32:18
Speaker 1: great when you've got a guy that comes back a
32:21
Speaker 1: week early, plays through pain, does get the job done,
32:25
Speaker 1: wins game one of a series, and you didn't even
32:28
Speaker 1: try to play in game number seven. It just a
32:32
Speaker 1: fan's going to have a hard time not reacting to that.
32:36
Speaker 4: I would agree, a fan is definitely going to have
32:38
Speaker 4: a hard time.
32:38
Speaker 5: And because it was a game seven versus a Game one,
32:41
Speaker 5: I mean, if Ant had come back in Game seven
32:43
Speaker 5: to try to do it.
32:44
Speaker 4: You could understand your seasons on the line. You got
32:46
Speaker 4: to do everything you can to keep it going.
32:48
Speaker 5: But for him to have come back in Game one,
32:50
Speaker 5: that just shows you how much he wants it and
32:51
Speaker 5: what he's willing to do.
32:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe that was stupid of him. I don't know,
32:55
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't.
32:55
Speaker 4: Worth a risk I find out.
32:56
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't worth the risk of, you know, possibly
32:59
Speaker 1: injuring it further.
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Speaker 5: But none of his teammates are going to think that
33:03
Speaker 5: he wasn't there for them. And yeah, and putting it
33:05
Speaker 5: all out on the line from.
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Speaker 1: I get I get all the angles. But man, uh,
33:11
Speaker 1: it does make for interesting sports conversation. There's no doubt
33:15
Speaker 1: about it.
33:15
Speaker 3: All Right.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're going to close out this edition
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Speaker 1: What do you got, Ashley?
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Speaker 5: Well, I got to have a pretty proud friend moment
34:34
Speaker 5: just like an hour ago. Oh, I got an email
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Speaker 5: from PGA of America and it shows the twenty twenty
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Speaker 5: six PGA Championship field list announced. So I clicked on
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Speaker 5: the link and I went to the PGA Championship website
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Speaker 5: PGA championship dot com and they're three names down on
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Speaker 4: Derek Berg of Duval, Washington, one of my very.
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Speaker 5: Dear friends, will be headed to the PGA Championship next week.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 4: I watched him qualify last week. But it's just cool to.
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Speaker 5: See it, like in writing on the PGA Championship website.
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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, just a surreal moment, so very cool.
35:11
Speaker 5: Is his first major? His first major? Yeah, his first
35:14
Speaker 5: PGA Tour event. I believe he was on a smaller
35:17
Speaker 5: tour for a while, but he has been trying. He's
35:20
Speaker 5: he works at PNW Golf Academy, got one like two
35:23
Speaker 5: buildings down there, and he's at.
35:25
Speaker 4: The one in Issaquah and.
35:28
Speaker 5: He's you know, as a PGA pro, you try to
35:32
Speaker 5: try to qualify every year if you can make it
35:34
Speaker 5: this far in the in the regional events and things
35:37
Speaker 5: like that.
35:38
Speaker 4: And then went to the PGA.
35:42
Speaker 5: Pro's Championship, in the top twenty qualify for the actual
35:45
Speaker 5: PGA Championship, and he is one of them.
35:47
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I thought that only happened. And because I
35:51
Speaker 1: don't know the sport that well, I thought, like the
35:53
Speaker 1: US Open, you could qualify because it was open for everybody.
35:56
Speaker 1: I did not know the PGA Championship.
35:58
Speaker 4: Was that way.
35:58
Speaker 5: Yes, but that is only this is only open for
36:01
Speaker 5: golf professionals. So someone who is an actual PGA like pro,
36:05
Speaker 5: like a teaching pro or somebody like that, who has
36:07
Speaker 5: their God, I don't know the whole all the rigamar
36:11
Speaker 5: roll about it, but I know that.
36:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, how excited is he he is? I'm very excited.
36:17
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's really hit him.
36:18
Speaker 5: I think it'll hit him when he gets to Philadelphia
36:20
Speaker 5: on Sunday.
36:21
Speaker 4: But five Iron is going to go watch Wow Flight
36:24
Speaker 4: right after that. Yep.
36:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he'll be in his gallery.
36:28
Speaker 4: He'll be in his gallery. Yeah, pretty cool watch.
36:30
Speaker 5: I mean they've been they're really close friends since high school.
36:35
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's pretty fun.
36:36
Speaker 1: Well, that's awesome. Yeah, and how old a man is this?
36:39
Speaker 5: He's a forty five forty Now he's gonna get mad
36:43
Speaker 5: at me if he's listening there.
36:46
Speaker 1: He's been waiting a while for this opportunity and never
36:49
Speaker 1: did give up on it. And pretty good success story, right, Yeah,
36:52
Speaker 1: there you go look at that.
36:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's pretty cool to see his name actually
36:56
Speaker 5: there on the PGA Championship website.
36:58
Speaker 1: Great, hey, tin cap mac boy nearly won an entire tournament,
37:02
Speaker 1: So no pressure, Derek.
37:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you use a seven iron?
37:05
Speaker 1: Well, he used the whole He used the whole bag
37:08
Speaker 1: for the tournament. He qualified with just a seven.
37:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so use the whole bag, Derek.
37:14
Speaker 1: Yes, use the whole bag. Yeah, even though you Yeah,
37:18
Speaker 1: even Tin Cup used the whole bag once he got there.
37:20
Speaker 5: I didn't.
37:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously have seen it.
37:23
Speaker 1: How have you not seen that? I don't know. I
37:25
Speaker 1: am tired of saying, how have you not? I don't
37:26
Speaker 1: want to be that guy. I know, but you actually
37:29
Speaker 1: like golf and sports movies. I think the.
37:32
Speaker 5: Problem is because we've used highlights from that. Now I've
37:34
Speaker 5: seen like the Oh no, yes, I know, I got
37:37
Speaker 5: to see the whole thing.
37:38
Speaker 1: I will Yeah, great movie, that one I.
37:40
Speaker 4: Will really add to my watch list. I promise.
37:42
Speaker 1: That's a great sports movie. Yes, really is a lot
37:44
Speaker 1: of fun because it's fun and interesting and you like
37:48
Speaker 1: the characters a lot. All yeah, yeah, all right. I'm
37:51
Speaker 1: going to close my one last thing with Aaron Rodgers news.
37:57
Speaker 1: This came up yesterday. It was making its rounds that
38:03
Speaker 1: there might be another team interested. Might be the Arizona
38:06
Speaker 1: Cardinals are interested in Aaron Rodgers. I just heard Adam
38:11
Speaker 1: Schefter kind of shoot this down this morning. But also
38:14
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter was coming at it from the perspective of
38:17
Speaker 1: why would he be interested? It wasn't really coming at
38:20
Speaker 1: it from a journalistic standpoint. It wasn't like using any
38:24
Speaker 1: information that he had from anyone. He was just pretty
38:27
Speaker 1: much saying what you or I might say, Why would
38:30
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, at this stage of his career go to
38:32
Speaker 1: a team that seems to be rebuilding.
38:34
Speaker 4: It seems to me further away from the playoffs than
38:36
Speaker 4: the Steelers.
38:37
Speaker 1: Certainly the Steelers. He's Also the story is that it's
38:40
Speaker 1: not about money. That's not the reason why there's a
38:43
Speaker 1: hang up with he and Pittsburgh, why they're not announcing it.
38:46
Speaker 1: It's just more about timing. So it's not like he's
38:50
Speaker 1: like Arizona's offering more money. That doesn't seem to be
38:53
Speaker 1: the issue here. But for whatever reason, this was making
38:57
Speaker 1: the rounds so yesterday that Aaron Rodgers might consider the
39:01
Speaker 1: quarterback vacancy in Arizona. Now they already have Jacoby Brissett
39:04
Speaker 1: and they just drafted Carson Beck. Rogers obviously represents an upgrade.
39:12
Speaker 1: And then when you think, I mean they do have
39:15
Speaker 1: the best tied end of the National Football League. Yeah,
39:18
Speaker 1: if Rogers is the one that can tap into Harrison
39:22
Speaker 1: and get him going.
39:23
Speaker 4: And that would be yeah, because he hasn't done.
39:26
Speaker 1: And Michael Wilson's really their number one receiver and then
39:29
Speaker 1: you've just added Jeremiah Love. I mean, those are there's
39:32
Speaker 1: some weapons there.
39:33
Speaker 4: It's definitely gonna have weapons.
39:34
Speaker 5: But it just seems odd that he would You might
39:36
Speaker 5: have more bouncing from team to team this late in
39:39
Speaker 5: his career.
39:39
Speaker 1: You might have more weapons in Arizona than you do
39:41
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I don't think you have as good a team,
39:44
Speaker 1: and I would think they've made it pretty clear they
39:47
Speaker 1: want you back, and that just seems But it does
39:50
Speaker 1: kind of in a strange way, it kind of sound
39:51
Speaker 1: like something that he might do. Like everybody thinks I
39:55
Speaker 1: should do this, I'm gonna go do this. Yeah, I
39:58
Speaker 1: just want to go live in Arizon.
40:00
Speaker 4: And if you're the Steelers, how annoyed are you?
40:01
Speaker 1: Now? I'm going to live in a teepee way out
40:04
Speaker 1: in the middle of a mesa.
40:06
Speaker 4: That actually would fit in better. Yeah, he could live
40:08
Speaker 4: in a year.
40:09
Speaker 1: Right exactly. I'm just gonna go out there and smoke
40:12
Speaker 1: a peace put yeah day through Saturday. Games show up
40:16
Speaker 1: on Sundays. Once I found my inner self.
40:20
Speaker 5: If I was the Steelers, I'd be so annoyed by
40:22
Speaker 5: this though, Like, Okay, so you're gonna just keep us
40:23
Speaker 5: hanging on and hanging on, hanging on, and now suddenly
40:26
Speaker 5: there's someone else. But at the same time, I've said
40:28
Speaker 5: it before, the Steelers only have themselves to blame for
40:30
Speaker 5: this whole situation. Well, it's just like our injury conversation.
40:34
Speaker 5: I don't know if any of it's true. That could
40:36
Speaker 5: be just somebody in Arizona that thinks, hey, I kind
40:39
Speaker 5: of like our skill talent. Why are we just gonna
40:42
Speaker 5: punt this season?
40:43
Speaker 4: That's fair.
40:44
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is still out there. We think he's better
40:46
Speaker 1: than Jacoby Brissetter, Carson Beck. Let's just start a rumor
40:50
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is interested in Arizona. He was found
40:53
Speaker 1: the other day and I found this really strange too.
40:56
Speaker 1: There were pictures of him taken yesterday in Jets merchandise.
41:01
Speaker 1: What that's strange.
41:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just he's an odd duck.
41:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it like that. You might like.
41:08
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of White Sox merchandise. My brother
41:11
Speaker 1: gave it to me. He worked for the White Sox.
41:12
Speaker 1: And I have White Sox merch and a lot of
41:15
Speaker 1: White Sox merch and every once in a while, I'll
41:17
Speaker 1: still wear a white even though I'm not a fan, right,
41:19
Speaker 1: even though my brother doesn't even work for them anymore
41:21
Speaker 1: and frankly doesn't even like them anymore. Angry with him
41:25
Speaker 1: at this stage. But I will still catch myself wearing
41:28
Speaker 1: a Why But then nobody's going to take a picture
41:30
Speaker 1: of me. Isn't it strange that some multi millionaire who
41:34
Speaker 1: has t shirts nicer than my nicest thing that I
41:37
Speaker 1: own would keep jets merch around just in case he
41:42
Speaker 1: needed to throw on a sweatshirt run an.
41:44
Speaker 5: Errand well and especially yeah, because you that's one thing
41:47
Speaker 5: you hear about anytime a coach gets a new job
41:49
Speaker 5: or a player whose seems they take all their old
41:52
Speaker 5: stuff to goodwill or give it away to somebody. Yeah,
41:55
Speaker 5: and so that he's like, well, I'll just move this
41:57
Speaker 5: with me.
41:57
Speaker 1: Oh, this is my favorite sleeping sweatshirt. It's so comfortable this. Yeah,
42:02
Speaker 1: I've got so many memories I met my wife that
42:05
Speaker 1: I won't let anybody know exists.
42:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, she actually lives only in jets gear.
42:08
Speaker 1: Right, I mean we cuddled together and our jet. I
42:11
Speaker 1: just happened to still be wearing it from the night before,
42:14
Speaker 1: and you caught me in a photo opportunity.
42:16
Speaker 4: Who se dude.
42:17
Speaker 1: I just think sounds a little strange that Aaron Rodgers
42:20
Speaker 1: is still yeah, walking around town going to get groceries.
42:23
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, jet sweatshirt.
42:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.
42:25
Speaker 5: When we got when who the Oregon State coach went
42:29
Speaker 5: to Michigan State didn't say, dropped everything off at Goodwill?
42:32
Speaker 5: And when we just got on yeah, Brian Fleury, when
42:35
Speaker 5: we just got him, he said, yeah, I took it
42:36
Speaker 5: all the Goodwill in San Francisco, and I told the employee, Hey,
42:39
Speaker 5: there's some good there's some good forty nine ers gear in.
42:42
Speaker 4: There if you want it.
42:44
Speaker 1: Uh. Well, I still think it'll end up at Pittsburgh.
42:47
Speaker 1: I think they know what they're they're signing up for.
42:51
Speaker 1: I think they there. But people were making connections, like
42:54
Speaker 1: because the La Floor has a relationship with Lafloor, which
42:59
Speaker 1: is the brother to the Green Bay right head coach
43:03
Speaker 1: is the new head coach at Arizona. The offenseve coordinator
43:06
Speaker 1: is like his best buddy, Nathaniel Hackett, who's the one
43:08
Speaker 1: that yeah, Sean Payton called out.
43:10
Speaker 4: Yep.
43:11
Speaker 1: But there are some connections there in Arizona. So there
43:15
Speaker 1: you go. Don't be surprised by anything. I'm not surprised
43:18
Speaker 1: by anything he does.
43:19
Speaker 4: No, definitely not.
43:21
Speaker 1: I mean he might go to Arizona so that he
43:23
Speaker 1: could run on the ticket for sheriff or something.
43:25
Speaker 4: Maybe who wouldn't want that?
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