Latest / Brian Thomas / The "Smither-vent" - Episode 148 - Violence over the weekend...where is the mayor
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Former Vice Mayor of the City Cincinnati, Christopher Smith, and
- 0:02Speaker 1: welcome back to the program, sir. I love having you on,
- 0:05Speaker 1: my friend.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Brother, thanks for having me on. And you know, I
- 0:10Speaker 2: take a deep breath sometimes before I start, you know,
- 0:14Speaker 2: my heart, my heart, Brian really goes out to that
- 0:17Speaker 2: spectrum worker, Oh yeah, who was shot Thursday morning, five
- 0:21Speaker 2: am in Avondale. And there's so many different moving parts
- 0:25Speaker 2: to it. Right, we got a person who's at work
- 0:28Speaker 2: doing what he's supposed to do. My understanding is that
- 0:31Speaker 2: he was there with a partner and the partner had
- 0:33Speaker 2: to go back and get some supplies and that's when
- 0:36Speaker 2: he was robbed. He totally complied, Brian with the robber
- 0:42Speaker 2: who had the gun on him, and gave him and
- 0:45Speaker 2: did everything anybody could do, and the person still shot him.
- 0:51Speaker 2: And I can't even imagine their weekend meaning this has
- 0:55Speaker 2: happened Thursday morning. He's still in the hospital, he's still
- 0:59Speaker 2: I'm sure he's had a number of surgeries. I can
- 1:01Speaker 2: see his whole family sitting in the waiting area, coffee breaks,
- 1:06Speaker 2: everybody around the clock, and nobody understands where their loved
- 1:10Speaker 2: one was doing the right thing in the right place
- 1:12Speaker 2: and somebody just walks up and pulls a gun on
- 1:15Speaker 2: him and shoots them and robs them. And what I'm
- 1:19Speaker 2: going to say about this, Brian, I appreciate Spectrum. In
- 1:22Speaker 2: my love goes out to the Spectrum family and the
- 1:24Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars that they put up, and I
- 1:27Speaker 2: hope that and I pray that the community cooperates. But
- 1:31Speaker 2: I never understand Brian, in these crisis situations, why we
- 1:35Speaker 2: don't hear from the mayor. And I think people think
- 1:39Speaker 2: sometimes when I'm talking, like I'm picking on him, like
- 1:43Speaker 2: this is not a game. These are life and death
- 1:46Speaker 2: decisions and things that are happening in our community. And
- 1:49Speaker 2: the crime is spreading. Whether it's Mount Adams or whether
- 1:52Speaker 2: it's you know, places like Avondale, or whether it's places
- 1:57Speaker 2: like Madisonville. The crime is spreading. And I feel like
- 2:03Speaker 2: the mayor and members of council are asset and when
- 2:06Speaker 2: these things happen, I feel like they just say crime
- 2:10Speaker 2: is down, and it's my perception or it's your perception,
- 2:13Speaker 2: it's not really our reality. And then over the weekend
- 2:17Speaker 2: we have five people shot, two in the Westwood area,
- 2:21Speaker 2: three in Cummingsville, and the three shot in Cummingsville. From
- 2:25Speaker 2: everything that I'm reading, it was a gun battle, like
- 2:27Speaker 2: people are running down the street shooting at people. A
- 2:31Speaker 2: real blessing that more people didn't die in cummings Field.
- 2:34Speaker 2: But to say three people shot Brian. If it were four,
- 2:39Speaker 2: it's my understanding that the FBI would have defined that
- 2:41Speaker 2: as a mass shooting. And so I'm trying to figure
- 2:45Speaker 2: out what the leadership in our city are doing as
- 2:50Speaker 2: I feel like we continue to take steps closer and
- 2:53Speaker 2: closer to places like Chicago and Detroit.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Well, I guess, you know, in response to your concern
- 2:58Speaker 1: about after provol not saying a word about it, when
- 3:02Speaker 1: people like the guy got shot in the neck, you
- 3:04Speaker 1: think that will be a good opportunity for him to
- 3:05Speaker 1: come out and talk about, you know, community safety, what
- 3:08Speaker 1: they are doing to deal with the violence in the city,
- 3:11Speaker 1: et cetera. But I have a feeling he probably didn't
- 3:13Speaker 1: do it because he would be out there all the
- 3:15Speaker 1: time having to respond to every single instance when someone
- 3:18Speaker 1: gets murdered by some crazy in the city of Cincinnati.
- 3:21Speaker 1: I mean that he always talk about all the time,
- 3:23Speaker 1: and if he didn't address, you know, all murders in
- 3:27Speaker 1: the city, then he'd be, you know, blamed for picking
- 3:31Speaker 1: and choosing. Well, you mentioned that the Spectrum God, but
- 3:33Speaker 1: you didn't talk about Phil and the blank, the next
- 3:35Speaker 1: guy down the show. He's trying to avoid the whole thing. Plus,
- 3:37Speaker 1: it brings the focus on crime. A mayor speaking of
- 3:40Speaker 1: a crime, I guess maybe we've got a problem with
- 3:42Speaker 1: crime in the city since Nathan Mayor's coming out and
- 3:44Speaker 1: talking about it. He doesn't like those optics. I mean,
- 3:47Speaker 1: he's just basically hiding from it by not saying anything.
- 3:50Speaker 1: The problem doesn't exist, right, and that's really the mo
- 3:53Speaker 1: o the city and Council has been doing now for
- 3:55Speaker 1: a long time.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right about that. But I thought
- 4:00Speaker 2: the Spectrum shooting on Thursday morning at five am was
- 4:04Speaker 2: really out of bounds. And I'm going to say something
- 4:06Speaker 2: to take a risk and say it, like, if you've
- 4:09Speaker 2: got two drug dealers and they're shooting at each other,
- 4:12Speaker 2: that is horrible, fighting over money, drug turf, whatever their
- 4:17Speaker 2: language is, And that's horrible to have a worker who
- 4:24Speaker 2: has nothing to do with any of that. They're just
- 4:27Speaker 2: in a neighborhood doing their job, right, They're trying to
- 4:33Speaker 2: restore cable service to a community to have somebody drive
- 4:39Speaker 2: up in a mask and pull a gun on and
- 4:41Speaker 2: shoot them in the neck. Right like that to me,
- 4:45Speaker 2: says okay, mayor this is outside the boundary of all
- 4:49Speaker 2: this other stuff we're talking.
- 4:51Speaker 1: About plausible motive. Vict there's no plausible justification. I mean,
- 4:55Speaker 1: even if if the justification still makes the act criminal,
- 4:59Speaker 1: at least you can say, well, you know what, I
- 5:00Speaker 1: kind of understand, going back to your point of a
- 5:02Speaker 1: gang turf or something, I kind of understand these guys
- 5:04Speaker 1: are rival gang members. They have a reason, like members
- 5:07Speaker 1: in combat or like people in combat, to shoot at
- 5:09Speaker 1: each other or kill each other because they have a
- 5:11Speaker 1: turf war on their hands. A guy doing his damn
- 5:14Speaker 1: job working for Spectrum has no gripe, he has no
- 5:16Speaker 1: beef with society. He's doing society a favor by coming
- 5:19Speaker 1: to work and doing his job and fixing people's cable.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Why in the hell did he get shot? You can't
- 5:24Speaker 1: come up with a justification for that. Was he sleeping
- 5:27Speaker 1: with the murderer's wife or something. Then you could say, Okay,
- 5:30Speaker 1: I kind of understand that was the conduct still unlawful,
- 5:34Speaker 1: illegal and criminal, Yes it was, But you know what
- 5:37Speaker 1: if somebody was sleeping with my wife, I might want
- 5:38Speaker 1: to shoot him too.
- 5:39Speaker 3: That's different, isn't it.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm saying to you as my friend that
- 5:45Speaker 2: if I were the mayor and a worker, because that
- 5:49Speaker 2: could be one of your city workers. Now, that could
- 5:51Speaker 2: be that could be another person that you know, coming
- 5:57Speaker 2: to the community to do something. I'm talking about like
- 6:01Speaker 2: a guy getting up every day going to work. He's
- 6:04Speaker 2: not supposed to get shot. And that's why I think
- 6:06Speaker 2: this is so far out of the out of the
- 6:08Speaker 2: out of the out of the stratosphere on crime and
- 6:11Speaker 2: out in this segment by saying to you, Brian that
- 6:14Speaker 2: this is why I think he didn't want to say
- 6:16Speaker 2: anything about it, because it undermines his narrative that crime
- 6:20Speaker 2: is down and that everybody is safe. You know, if
- 6:24Speaker 2: if if victims now that are being shot who have
- 6:27Speaker 2: nothing to do with drugs, that are nothing to do
- 6:30Speaker 2: with with crime at any level, are now being shot
- 6:33Speaker 2: because they're showing up with the neighbors to do their job,
- 6:36Speaker 2: that is a different level of crime. And I just
- 6:39Speaker 2: don't think he wanted to highlight it because it undermines
- 6:43Speaker 2: his narrative that crime is down in Cincinnati, and it just.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Isn't Yeah, and you've taken away the opportunity for choice.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Now with a with A with one of my listeners
- 6:51Speaker 1: in the audience that I'm never going to go downtown.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I don't want to face the potential for violence. I
- 6:55Speaker 1: can eat at a restaurant elsewhere. I don't need to
- 6:57Speaker 1: go to a ballgame fight. You have that option to
- 6:59Speaker 1: knock downtown. If you work for Spectrum, there's going to
- 7:03Speaker 1: be a job within the city limits that you're going
- 7:05Speaker 1: to have to do. And here's where you run headlong
- 7:07Speaker 1: into the problem that you're perceiving, Christopher. People are forced
- 7:10Speaker 1: under circumstances to be there. It's out of their hands
- 7:14Speaker 1: that they have to go into a violent area.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Now and now, Brian, they're going to those areas with
- 7:21Speaker 2: a detail, meaning Spectrum has requested details for their workers
- 7:27Speaker 2: in specific areas. And so I don't blame Spectrum. How
- 7:32Speaker 2: would you feel if you were the CEO and one
- 7:34Speaker 2: of your workers just got shot in the net doing
- 7:37Speaker 2: their job. You're going to you can't tell the other families, well,
- 7:40Speaker 2: let me send another worker in there without having some
- 7:43Speaker 2: type of armed guard.
- 7:45Speaker 1: And how many businesses are there that operate in the
- 7:50Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, who also, given that they're in the
- 7:53Speaker 1: same circumstances, could also request a special detail to go
- 7:56Speaker 1: with them. How many cops do you got, Christopher? Don't
- 7:58Speaker 1: go away more with Christopher smith After I mentioned you've
- 8:00Speaker 1: got plenty of time, I'm giving your heads up notice.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Shine care and see the talk station seven if you
- 8:07Speaker 3: have ker City talk station. It's Monday.
- 8:08Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the conversation with the phone
- 8:10Speaker 1: a vice mayor of the city. Since say Christopher Smithman
- 8:13Speaker 1: at vote Smithmen's where you find them on X Christopher Smithman,
- 8:17Speaker 1: let's continue.
- 8:17Speaker 3: What else is on your mind?
- 8:19Speaker 2: I think what's interesting and then I'm going to pivot
- 8:22Speaker 2: to another subject Brian Thomas, is that the details that
- 8:28Speaker 2: the city will be providing Spectrum, but they that they
- 8:30Speaker 2: haven't even really you know, announced that they're doing at
- 8:34Speaker 2: any level. It'll be interesting do they provide that protection
- 8:39Speaker 2: for the worker if they're in Hyde Park. Someone just
- 8:43Speaker 2: just communicated that to me on social media, meaning if
- 8:47Speaker 2: they go to Hyde Park from Outlookout to do work,
- 8:50Speaker 2: do they have do they feel they need to have
- 8:52Speaker 2: a detail there? So it'll be interesting where Spectrum is
- 8:57Speaker 2: believing they need to detail and in that in that conversation,
- 9:01Speaker 2: which I don't believe it's reality, but some would say
- 9:04Speaker 2: that's racist, meaning the notion that they're going to follow
- 9:08Speaker 2: the crime pattern and go, I think my workers at
- 9:12Speaker 2: four o'clock in the morning in this location are unsafe
- 9:15Speaker 2: in this location, I don't think they. I think they
- 9:18Speaker 2: are safe. What does that mean?
- 9:20Speaker 1: How is relying on statistics racism? Christopher? If you are
- 9:24Speaker 1: statistically more likely to be a victim of a crime
- 9:28Speaker 1: in certain neighborhoods in the city of Cincinnati and less
- 9:31Speaker 1: likely to be a victim in other neighborhoods, I would
- 9:34Speaker 1: think that the statistical realities would suggest you need maybe
- 9:38Speaker 1: a police presence where you're more likely to be a
- 9:41Speaker 1: victim of a crime. That's not racism. It's just working
- 9:45Speaker 1: the data into the logical analysis you have to do
- 9:48Speaker 1: because of the finite amount of police resources we have
- 9:50Speaker 1: to go around.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Correct and Brian. On top of that, if you're very wealthy,
- 9:57Speaker 2: you and I know that they roll using slang with
- 10:01Speaker 2: armed guards everywhere. They have big fences, they have big guards,
- 10:06Speaker 2: they have arm guards around them. And it's always interesting
- 10:09Speaker 2: to hear the West Coast, you know, Superstars or the
- 10:13Speaker 2: East Coast superstars, you know, telling everybody about how we
- 10:17Speaker 2: should be dealing with guns, and then you see them
- 10:19Speaker 2: walking and they're surrounded by five or seven people. You
- 10:22Speaker 2: can't even get to them, and everybody has a gun
- 10:24Speaker 2: around them. So they're living in this fantasy world. But
- 10:28Speaker 2: the reality of it is the Spectrum worker on Thursday
- 10:31Speaker 2: morning could not was not afforded with that, and I
- 10:34Speaker 2: believe that they will be down. As I switched topics, man,
- 10:38Speaker 2: I saw some of the Fauci hearings, and there's so
- 10:43Speaker 2: many moving parts to it where you had entire businesses,
- 10:50Speaker 2: not just in Ohio, but across our fifty states that
- 10:54Speaker 2: lost everything, meaning those businesses don't exist anymore because of
- 10:59Speaker 2: the decisions Foults made and what he's saying and how
- 11:03Speaker 2: he was advising. If you're the public policymaker, meaning I'm
- 11:07Speaker 2: not a doctor, let's just say I am a mayor,
- 11:11Speaker 2: and I'm listening to what my expert physician is telling me.
- 11:17Speaker 2: You're listening and taking that advice. That's what foult she
- 11:19Speaker 2: was doing, and that solo advice really stopped the entire
- 11:24Speaker 2: economy and businesses lost everything. There were loved ones who
- 11:30Speaker 2: died alone grandparents and family members who were married sixty
- 11:35Speaker 2: five seventy years and their loved one died in a
- 11:38Speaker 2: hospital room all by themselves. Really for nothing, because now
- 11:42Speaker 2: we know that a lot of the information, not all
- 11:46Speaker 2: of it, Brian Thomas, but a lot of the information
- 11:48Speaker 2: that fault she put out wasn't accurate. And that is
- 11:52Speaker 2: what is so scary. We saw an overreach of our
- 11:55Speaker 2: government in such a way. This scares libertarians to death
- 11:59Speaker 2: right because they're saying, this is what bothers me about
- 12:02Speaker 2: the strong arming of a government that we put one
- 12:06Speaker 2: person in charge who says he was a medical doctor,
- 12:09Speaker 2: who says he was following the science, and now we
- 12:12Speaker 2: know that there were terrible decisions that impacted our children.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Our children in Ohio still are not getting over schools
- 12:20Speaker 2: being closed for a couple of years. Brian Thomas.
- 12:22Speaker 1: That's correct. Let's pause. We're out of time in the segment.
- 12:25Speaker 1: We'll ring Christopher back for more words maybe on that
- 12:27Speaker 1: topic or more stick around. I want to mention Zimmer
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- 12:34Speaker 1: Congratulations the talk station seven here fifty five karsee the
- 12:43Speaker 1: talk station. Brian Thomas, with Christopher Smitheman. Do any smither
- 12:46Speaker 1: Van at vote Smitheman win where you find Christopher on acts?
- 12:50Speaker 3: Christopher? What else are we gonna talk about this morning?
- 12:52Speaker 2: Look? Look, look, Brian, I'm going to address this again
- 12:56Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be a little more serious and maybe
- 12:59Speaker 2: have some fun with it too. But everybody, I feel like,
- 13:04Speaker 2: runs to the corner and calls everybody now a racist.
- 13:08Speaker 2: If you don't agree with me, if you have a
- 13:10Speaker 2: different perspective than I have, you're just fundamentally a racist
- 13:14Speaker 2: or you're an uncle tom. So people say, Smitherman, this
- 13:19Speaker 2: is what you are right because I say things and
- 13:22Speaker 2: I speak out with which I think are common sense
- 13:25Speaker 2: things like I support cops, or you know, I support
- 13:29Speaker 2: the flag, or you know, I don't think that this
- 13:33Speaker 2: this most recent data, every that the city is arguing
- 13:37Speaker 2: about it depicts every police officer in Cincinnati as a
- 13:40Speaker 2: racist because they're stopping a car and the and the
- 13:43Speaker 2: person that they're stopping happens to be a black American.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Somebody has to get get out of your man and
- 13:50Speaker 2: speak truth to this power because it is getting so
- 13:53Speaker 2: out of control. So it's like like every that we're racist,
- 13:58Speaker 2: Racism is real. Sexism is real, right, and so this
- 14:02Speaker 2: notion that if I disagree with you about a position,
- 14:05Speaker 2: that that fundamentally now means I'm racist is insane. And
- 14:09Speaker 2: I just think that the word is being tossed around
- 14:12Speaker 2: so much right now, Brian, that it's being watered down.
- 14:15Speaker 2: People don't believe it. Nobody, It makes no sense. It's
- 14:18Speaker 2: like a person says there's firefirefire, and nobody believes anymore
- 14:22Speaker 2: there's a fire because there's no common sense around it anymore,
- 14:25Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. And I'm trying to warn people that this
- 14:29Speaker 2: overuse of this word is really undermining our American culture
- 14:35Speaker 2: in a big way. It's the and you hear the
- 14:37Speaker 2: socialists who are running tomorrow in the primaries, whether it's
- 14:40Speaker 2: Michigan or whether it's Wisconsin, they're really calling the entire
- 14:44Speaker 2: country racist. You listen to what they're saying. They're saying
- 14:47Speaker 2: a lot of things. They want to debunk the Supreme Court,
- 14:50Speaker 2: they don't want any police, they want to abolish the police.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Listen to me, to your listening audience, and somebody who
- 14:56Speaker 2: might be tuning in for the first time, what I'm
- 14:58Speaker 2: saying is true. Those socialists are saying they want to
- 15:02Speaker 2: abolish the police departments across the country and so, but
- 15:07Speaker 2: they're also saying that our country fundamentally that they're racist,
- 15:11Speaker 2: and these people are being elected. Brian tarkins, it is
- 15:14Speaker 2: really scary to me.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Well, and I think the problem with this claim of
- 15:19Speaker 1: racism illustrated by something. I've been in a tearun since
- 15:22Speaker 1: we found out there was fraud in Minnesota. Although there
- 15:23Speaker 1: have been millions of illustrations the same thing over time.
- 15:27Speaker 1: You know, it isn't racism just because someone says it is.
- 15:30Speaker 1: I don't want my taxpayers stolen by fraudsters. I don't
- 15:36Speaker 1: care what color, religion, race. I don't care if they
- 15:39Speaker 1: came from blank and remulac the planet from Star Trek.
- 15:43Speaker 1: If they stole from us, the collective American taxpayer, then
- 15:47Speaker 1: they deserve to be held accountable, prosecuted, and put in jail.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Now is it racism because the fraudsters in Minneapolis, for example,
- 15:54Speaker 1: happen to be members of the Somali community, not completely,
- 15:57Speaker 1: but most of which that's what the left was saying,
- 15:59Speaker 1: it's it's racism to look into the fraud that's going
- 16:02Speaker 1: on because well, there's Somali community fraud. Well, if it
- 16:07Speaker 1: was the Irish, or the Italians, or the German or anybody,
- 16:12Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anybody. If it's just American citizens engaging
- 16:17Speaker 1: in organized crime, then we go after. I mean, no
- 16:20Speaker 1: one would scream racism, but oh well, just because it
- 16:23Speaker 1: happened to be members of the Samali community, that turns
- 16:25Speaker 1: a criminal investigation into an act of racism.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Bull crap, says Brian Thomas.
- 16:30Speaker 2: It is, Brian Thomas. It is really just deflection. But
- 16:35Speaker 2: they're using racism as deflection and very serious situations because
- 16:40Speaker 2: what you're saying here here is that I'm going after crime.
- 16:44Speaker 2: I'm following the crime. I'm not following the race or
- 16:48Speaker 2: the gender of the person. I'm just following the crime exactly.
- 16:53Speaker 2: So you took a billion dollars, I'm going to put
- 16:55Speaker 2: you in jail. Oh no, I can't do that. You're
- 16:57Speaker 2: Somalian and you're just targeting me. No, you stole a billion.
- 17:02Speaker 2: You stole a billion dollars, and that is a problem.
- 17:06Speaker 2: That's what's so fundamentally wrong with this argument and why
- 17:10Speaker 2: I raised it. And the last point Brian Thomas is
- 17:13Speaker 2: this young lady, Sophie. I think it's Cunningham. I don't
- 17:18Speaker 2: follow sports, but she's decided to weigh in on this
- 17:22Speaker 2: transgender conversation. Every time I talk about it. I support
- 17:27Speaker 2: the transgender community. I support the LGBTQ plus community. I
- 17:31Speaker 2: have a son who is gay. I don't have to
- 17:34Speaker 2: put my record down. I went to the school for
- 17:36Speaker 2: Creative and Performing arts. That is not the discussion. This
- 17:40Speaker 2: is the extreme parts of the left. People eighty to
- 17:43Speaker 2: ninety percent of Americans say that men should not compete
- 17:47Speaker 2: against girls or women in sports. It's unfair. Title nine
- 17:53Speaker 2: is real to hear democrats out here undermining Title nine,
- 17:57Speaker 2: meaning they fall on the forward on Title nine and
- 18:01Speaker 2: now here they are saying, I want to create an
- 18:04Speaker 2: environment for girls in our country and women in our
- 18:08Speaker 2: country that are unfair. This young lady, Sophie Cunningham, I
- 18:12Speaker 2: don't know her. I don't follow sports, but I'm glad
- 18:16Speaker 2: that she's weighing in on it. And I would tell
- 18:18Speaker 2: men in sports they should be weighing in on it.
- 18:21Speaker 2: They should be looking out for their moms, their aunties,
- 18:24Speaker 2: their cousins, their nieces, their family members. They should be
- 18:28Speaker 2: out here. Men should be lending a voice to saying
- 18:32Speaker 2: this is not about transgender We support transgender people. What
- 18:36Speaker 2: we are saying here is it is unfair to have
- 18:39Speaker 2: them competing against girls and women in sports, and that's
- 18:43Speaker 2: just common sense. Why do I have to be anti
- 18:46Speaker 2: gay to say I don't support this part.
- 18:50Speaker 3: It's not well.
- 18:51Speaker 1: And you know I'm gonna quickly defend, you know, the
- 18:53Speaker 1: defend the gay lesbian community who got sucked into the
- 18:55Speaker 1: whole component of transgenderism. Transgenders does not identify a person's
- 19:01Speaker 1: sexual preferences gay lesbian does Christopher, If you could be
- 19:05Speaker 1: a trand if you're a transgender, if you're a guy
- 19:08Speaker 1: who claims to be a woman, I am a woman.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean you want to sleep with men.
- 19:14Speaker 1: It just means that you declare yourself to be a
- 19:16Speaker 1: member of the opposite sex. That's why we've seen transgender
- 19:20Speaker 1: women who are men who are claiming to be women
- 19:22Speaker 1: in women's facilities, molesting women. We've heard of transgender prisoners
- 19:26Speaker 1: who end up in female prisons raping the women in
- 19:29Speaker 1: the cells with them. Apparently they have a desire for
- 19:32Speaker 1: the opposite sex, or in their mind, the same sex.
- 19:35Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 19:36Speaker 1: If you're a transgender woman, which means you're a genetically male,
- 19:40Speaker 1: a genetically male human being. Does that mean you're a
- 19:43Speaker 1: lesbian if you still like having sex with women? Work
- 19:46Speaker 1: that one out for me, Christopher. I'm confused. But I
- 19:49Speaker 1: can live in a world like you. You say you
- 19:51Speaker 1: support the LGBTQ plus AAA whatever community.
- 19:54Speaker 3: That's fine.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I'm a libertarian, which means I can live in a
- 19:56Speaker 1: world with whatever you want to be. Just don't tell
- 19:59Speaker 1: me that I've got a b into your philosophy. That
- 20:01Speaker 1: doesn't make me transgender or transphobic. I'm rather transphobic. It
- 20:05Speaker 1: just makes me believe in X and Y chromosomes, period,
- 20:09Speaker 1: scientific reality.
- 20:11Speaker 2: And why I'm discussing it for a lot of reasons.
- 20:13Speaker 2: I'm watching these national protests which I'm sure will eventually
- 20:17Speaker 2: come to our state of you know, protesting this young athlete,
- 20:22Speaker 2: female athlete who took a position on it. But it
- 20:25Speaker 2: will also be a part of the governor's race, meaning
- 20:28Speaker 2: here we've got Vivek running for governor. I don't want
- 20:31Speaker 2: a governor who will undermine Title nine. I don't want
- 20:35Speaker 2: a governor that will say I'm going to create more
- 20:38Speaker 2: unsafe environments or unfair athletic situations for girls and for
- 20:45Speaker 2: women in sports in Ohio. That doesn't mean that I'm
- 20:49Speaker 2: anti trans No. I keep saying that because if somebody
- 20:53Speaker 2: is tuning in, I don't want them to say, oh man,
- 20:54Speaker 2: I'm listening to this person. And you know, I went
- 20:57Speaker 2: to the School for Creative and Performing Arts and I've
- 20:59Speaker 2: been fighting for gay rights before most people were even alive.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Who might be listening to this. The point that we're
- 21:05Speaker 2: making is Title nine is real and that this country
- 21:10Speaker 2: fought for Title nine, and so why would we undermine
- 21:15Speaker 2: safe places for girls and women to compete. I don't
- 21:18Speaker 2: get this discussion. It's a common sense thing. I think
- 21:21Speaker 2: eighty or ninety percent of Americans agree with it. But
- 21:24Speaker 2: it is on the ballot in Ohio, and the vech Ramaswami,
- 21:28Speaker 2: who is running right, would not undermine Title nine, and
- 21:32Speaker 2: I believe the other candidate would. That is a serious
- 21:35Speaker 2: discussion that we have to have as we go into
- 21:38Speaker 2: this gubernatorial rance because I do believe Brian Thomas. It
- 21:42Speaker 2: is on the governor's ballot, and that's one of the
- 21:45Speaker 2: reasons I continue to support the vek Rama Swami because
- 21:48Speaker 2: I want common sense. I don't want to wake up
- 21:50Speaker 2: and see the governor saying I'm undermining Title nine.
- 21:53Speaker 1: And how well of your daughter have done since she
- 21:56Speaker 1: was a female swimmer, a girl swimmer on the girls
- 21:59Speaker 1: swim team, if she to compete against guys, right, I
- 22:02Speaker 1: mean it.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Would be it would have been very detrimental and she
- 22:05Speaker 2: would not have She would not have been in position
- 22:09Speaker 2: to most likely, because it's all about timing. You are
- 22:13Speaker 2: a swimmer, a great swimmer, you understand it. But the
- 22:16Speaker 2: scholarships and those things, those conversations most likely would not
- 22:20Speaker 2: have happened. It creates an unfair advantage, Brian, and I
- 22:24Speaker 2: think that we've got to have men who are willing
- 22:27Speaker 2: to speak truth to power here on this issue, and
- 22:30Speaker 2: those who are on the other side of this, Brian Thomas,
- 22:32Speaker 2: their position will not age will why because men will
- 22:37Speaker 2: be men and women will be women for the next
- 22:40Speaker 2: two thousand, five thousand years. That's not excuse me, that
- 22:45Speaker 2: is not going to change. So the issue here is
- 22:48Speaker 2: that are we going to protect girls and women or not.
- 22:50Speaker 2: I don't understand the protests that are happening right now,
- 22:53Speaker 2: and I wanted to take the risk to lend my
- 22:56Speaker 2: voice and be clear here. Girls deserve safe places Brian
- 23:01Speaker 2: Thomas to play sports. You're not a racist, I'm not
- 23:04Speaker 2: an Uncle Tom. And at the end of the day,
- 23:06Speaker 2: we just want common sense policies coming from our elected officials,
- 23:10Speaker 2: that's all. We're looking for safe environments where people like
- 23:13Speaker 2: Spectrum workers are not being shot and being robbed in
- 23:17Speaker 2: our neighborhood.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Don't sweater a Christopher. This is someone always going to
- 23:20Speaker 1: criticize your point of view, but remember you are on
- 23:22Speaker 1: the right side of this one, at least in terms
- 23:24Speaker 1: of the vast majority of people in this country. They're
- 23:26Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent.