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Start Me Up: Mamaw's Porch 'n Politics · Start Me Up with Kimberley A. Johnson

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the Start Me Up podcast part of MSW Media and the sexy liberal podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host Kimberly Johnson in DC today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My returning guest is the host of Mammoth's porch and politics Lisa Parker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She lives in Ohio, Appalachia,
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[SPEAKER_03]: She has such an interesting take, she's very liberal, and she tells it like it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now please enjoy my conversation with Lisa Parker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to the show Lisa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's good to talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just like before we started recording, I reminded you that you sound like my Grammy from Appalachia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what we try to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm everybody's name all these days.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm excited to talk to you because, you know, as we discussed the last time you're on the show, you live in Ohio, rural Ohio, and I say Appalachia and you pronounce it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Appalachia, Appalachia, like you're a latch in the door.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when they send you to get voiceless, and they will say Appalachia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So with your voice training, that would be correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how we can tell the true people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I knew JD Vance was a fraud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have key words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, it's like a whole culture, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The last time you were on the show was October, it was right before November and you told me that you saw fewer Trump mega paraphernalia out around where you live.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You also mentioned your husband and you had gone to an open-air market and there was like a, you know, a little table booth, whatever, for mega merchandise and no one was there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, has anything changed?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to tell you that the only mag of flags I see these days are very tattered torn and not cared for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have not seen any red hats in my travels in the shitty weather.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will say at the flea market, the poor old ladies there with the exact same flags in the exact same placement that they have been since October.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So apparently she's not selling anything interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Much fewer confrontations and people in your.
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[SPEAKER_02]: face, they have kind of retreated because their lizard brains are just firing, they just absolutely don't know how to respond or comprehend all of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is the take?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, I know there's always going to be this group of people who are just going to be full-blown, right-wing fascists no matter what happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we've got a lot of things happening right now that are not what they they voted for, at least they thought they were not voting for this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whether, you know, we've got the ICE situations we've got Epstein, we've got tariffs, we've got all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're going to talk about all this stuff later, there's possible war with Iran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they being, you know, their lizard brains are kind of malfunctioning, but like are you hearing anything specific?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we got to step back and break it down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the military did this years ago with people who wore prisoners of war.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have, it's basically broke down into third.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got a third of the population that break immediately.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I bring that into the bag.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they are very susceptible to being in a cult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're very susceptible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you've got a middle third that it would take a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they can come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got another third that no matter what you do, you can't break them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it is that you have people that are naturally very, very curious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you tell them something they're going to pull the string, and those are the ones that never fall for a cult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you got the middle third that they'll resist but then it gets to sound and good and then it gets to be well that's what I like so they're telling you what you like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you fall into the trap, but you can be brought back, unfortunately, you have to feel a lot of pain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's where we have a third of the population right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They bought into the wedge issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They bought into the fear, but they had to feel the pain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now they are, and they're like, listen, what I voted for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I begged a differ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly voted for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't think it was going to affect you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it has, now you're feeling the pain that you wish to upon others and it's not pleasant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're always going to have that bottom third that no matter what and, you know, tacos just accept them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No matter what, Scallywagoner do well, piece of shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, George Wallace had a huge following before he saw Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just always got that built in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, as in there are people that are not curious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't matter what their socioeconomic position is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just not curious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They love somebody else to thank for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as long as I'm putting it to somebody else, I'm good with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's absolutely, um, no, are you hearing specific, uh, opinions about ice?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I mean, I've seen some magas, they think ice is great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then other magas, not so much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what is, is there any kind of a thing in Appalachia?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you where I saw the turn is the don't tread on me, second amendment people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With Alex Pradi, it was like whoa, whoa, whoa, now wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I really think it's affecting a lot of people when they understand what this whole movement now is to suppress the first amendment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're even seeing it on social media platforms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just network TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that has really shook them up more than ice because, you know, face it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think part of the masking issue is their J6ers, they're going to be identified, and that's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What if I turn an out here, we aren't now like a tail near me called Chilakati.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've had some ice there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't seen it as much because our concentrating on the larger urban areas, but it'll come.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I have, yeah, I have a feeling like in my, it's weird because we have different places in this country that are almost like war zones with ice everywhere and then, you know, where I live, everything fails normal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen ice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll tell you the other thing, what I believe that is keeping them out of areas like Appalachia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We take our side arms and being a well, I'm trying to put this carefully, and being a well-armed militia very literally, and you've got to remember, I mean, Appalachia was the Maitwan War,
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[SPEAKER_02]: that, you know, we, we take the serious, and I think they want to go into urban centers and areas where they don't have that population to take on agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I trouble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're also going into blue places specifically, right, you know, like because where I live in Maryland, it's very extremely diverse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I love your governor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he's awesome, Westmore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's really great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, say my husband and son are 80 second-air born, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It gives him a double.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Double.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what was I just going to say, um, as far as ISIS concerned though, I think, you know, I mean, oh, I know what I was going to say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't remember if I said this on last week's show, but I'm going to repeat it because I felt so bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last week, I went to the grocery store.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and the, you know, because when I go to the grocery store, there are people from everywhere, right, ringing me up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There was the new girl had never seen her before, and she was wearing a hijab.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping I'm saying that right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was, she's from Afghanistan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we started talking and I guess I'm gonna guess she's like 21, 22, very young.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so she said something and I don't remember what it was but I looked at her and I saw the green light because I like to talk to people when I'm out and about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just said I'm really sorry that our country is so hostile and awful right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she, you know, agreed with me and we were just discussing ice and everything and then she said, well ice is only taking criminals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I looked at her and I'm like, hmm, now no, that's not true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I had literally just seen this statistic that I think of the 70,000 people that they had in concentration camps 12 to 17% were criminals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I told her that and her eyes got really big and she said, well, now I'm scared.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I felt like shit, but also I feel like, well, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a slap across the face to her, but maybe she's, you know, because I told her to check out indivisible.org.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I told her that there are different things that she can do to keep her family safe and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, I hope if anything, I hate that I had to upset her, but at the same time, I feel like at least she's aware, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The same woman working in the store.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She goes outside in the dark after her shift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A van pulls up with mask man and rag tag.
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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of a uniform look and stuff and grabs her to throws her in the van.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are those criminals or are they law enforcement officers?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's her safe?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a mess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling you, there is an law enforcement officer from the county level on up through the federal level that doesn't have to show their face, have proper ID, have a badge number.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and being a damn uniform that's identifiable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just those basic things is outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of my substacks, I read right off of the Department of Justices website.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, this is what you do after a shooting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they do not even following procedure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right there on the Department of Justices website.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, they're not, because they're just lawless.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are lawless.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are the J-6 Hooligans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what about, okay, what about Epstein?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the thing with Epstein, it's not just about, as we know now, violence, sexual abuse against children, we're finding out that Epstein had ties with Putin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He had ties with the Israeli government.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Governments all over the globe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: such disgusting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the things that have been coming out have been so disgusting and we haven't even seen all of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess there's like, I don't know, millions of pages or something and we've only seen a very small percentage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what we have seen is just stomach turning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, how is that playing in the red world?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not well at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, you know, we got Blondie Pam Bondi, the protector of Petophile.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I gave her the perfect off ramp.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tried to save that woman and she would not take my advice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I told her to leave a nice letter in her office after she cleaned it out at midnight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to have her a plane ready to go to Dubai because Lord knows they've already paid her a shit ton of money anyway as they're foreign consultant and get the hell out of dodge and give us some peace.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, she wouldn't adhere so she brought this on herself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's going
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[SPEAKER_02]: is tacos going to get impeached because JD, now that we know that the reason they can't invoke the 25th, this half of the damn cabinet is in the Epstein files.
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[SPEAKER_02]: JD's going to have to rely on Congress to impeach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When tacos impeached, I think we need to turn him and specific people over to the Hague, reinstate Jack Smith, send him back over there and let the Hague try him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now, do you think JD would want to impeach him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, JD will be left completely out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll look like Mr. Anna sent, but then JD's benefactor is all over the Epstein files.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now they talk to Wexner, but Peter Teele's in him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Elon's in him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can't believe Steve Bannon's ass hasn't been driving in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know a lot of files we haven't seen yet so there is that a lot and i'm proud of the UK what they're doing i know Europe's jumping on it but the number one the absolute
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[SPEAKER_02]: it would never have happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It starts with less wexner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What man is a God damn billionaire that turns over all of his money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and gives complete statutory authority to a man who was not a money manager, who was a schoolteacher of math, and gives him everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If the real business plan wasn't blackmail and trafficking on an international level,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is huge and now the UN isn't getting involved because they're calling it crimes against humanity and I just I think that's fascinating that that's happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been hearing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, I'm going to change that up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that in, because we're not going to have, we don't have a justice system that's going to do anything right now, our justice system is completely useless.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we have people don't understand, and I don't fully understand how we're going to finally figure it all out, except I know that we are going to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, one of the things that I like to say to people, I know I'm kind of going all over the place, my mind is just like a mess right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like to remind people that what we're seeing now is so awful and I hope that
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[SPEAKER_03]: the majority of them, wind up in the heck.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope the majority of them have to, I mean, you know, the guy, the former Prince Andrew was arrested today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was arrested today?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's arrested today on a 66th birthday?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're seeing justice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here is the issue with the Epstein files.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are finding out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that they were redacted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back when Cash Patel was working FBI agents around the clock, and they did those heavy entire page reductions, and they loaded them into the DOJ system already redacted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when Congress went in there to look at the unredacted files, they're not there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're redacted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're all screaming where's the originals?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you'll remember back in October when we first spoke, I said the queen got everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The queen has had everything all along, which means Charles has it now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not that we have lost those files, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if we go to the Hague, the King of England's got every, every goddamn thing we had, he has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where they go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the thing is is like as much, now I, again, I hope what we've been seeing for decades and decades is the rich white man gets to commit the crimes and then gets away with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, now you've got the whole
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we got the rich folk right to kind of forward to kick like taco did just keep kicking cans down the road and running out the clock and stuff that nobody else can do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have the average citizen and then you got poor schmucks who take deals because that's the best they're going to get because they cannot get good legal counsel.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and what I'm hoping is that obviously we want to see everybody brought to justice, but this is this is the way I look at it I mean, and I hope you know, this is a reckoning and we keep hearing that and we you know We're seeing that all these people are involved We understand right now the United States is just not going to do what it needs to do because of the person in charge and the people in charge but
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[SPEAKER_03]: what we can do and what I try to remind my friends and followers on either this podcast or Facebook or whatever is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Eventually we may not see justice for every single person and instead of spending our energy on being angry at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We need to put our energy into keeping our elected
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[SPEAKER_03]: from not being, you know, like, how can I say this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have to stay on them so that they make rules, so it's harder for these oligarchs and for all these criminals to basically protect themselves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have a perfect solution in Martin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope Ken Martin listens to this or gets the idea somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to every Democrat that is running.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is going to be really hard for the Democratic Party, just as hard as the Republican Party, to commit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to redoing citizens united.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only reason citizen united is where it is is because we didn't have a law.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to make it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to actually define what a human being is as a voter
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[SPEAKER_02]: lettering as large as, you know, paid for by the friends of, in the same size fought underneath it, a website for a list of donors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know who the donors are, but the Democrats have to commit to do that because they're going to lose a hell of a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if we take the big money back out of it, then they don't pay money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not making money either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the Supreme Court cannot change the rules because you've covered free speech, you've kept it, and you have defined what a voting human
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you turn right around and codify what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: bodily autonomy is, and then you codify in voting rights, and if we do just those first three things in the first 30 days, we're in like Flint, you know, fixed the problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That simple, I'm an old mammal, but my family make things harder than they need to be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, why can't you just run things, please?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, hey, I've already figured out how to fix
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got a thing for that and it's impressive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's just damn it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Will you put some common sense?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much hubris.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we just, yeah, I hope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I went ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, okay, I've been seeing this as I did not plan to ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna give you three names.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll give you four names, but the three names.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously we don't even have the midterms yet, but let's skip ahead just for funsies, going to 2028, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I know everybody's all excited about who's gonna be the nominee and we don't know yet and we're just trying to get to it because we hate everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So,
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's Mark Kelly, not that he's running, but I'm just looking at people, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing Mark and Kelly, and I'm seeing how he could, and I'm only gonna name men right now, but I see how he could possibly capture that vote, right, of the nation, because he's an astronaut, because Gabby gets versus his wife, you know, he's got so much, he's just got a really great resume,
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[SPEAKER_03]: and he's an American hero.
22:40
[SPEAKER_03]: But then on the other flip side, there's John Olsaf, which right now he does not have like a national presence, but he is a senator in Georgia.
22:50
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good looking younger man.
22:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He's giving me Obama vibes big time.
22:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's him.
22:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you followed him too much lately, but there is bus.
23:00
[SPEAKER_03]: People are saying, okay, you know, if he wins in Georgia, again, I think this could be like a frontrunner type of thing for 2028.
23:08
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the last one, and I'll what is his name?
23:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, I can't remember.
23:12
[SPEAKER_03]: He's he's the, um,
23:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the bald, he's the bald Democratic strategist from Louisiana.
23:21
[SPEAKER_03]: God, I can more James Carvelle.
23:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so he thinks JB Pritzker is his choice for right now.
23:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I'm going to throw in Gavin Newsom because Gavin is, you know, people are talking about him.
23:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Of those four people.
23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm going to throw in another one to file up your game.
23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
23:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't overlook Andy Bashir because I remember 1976 when nobody, you know, bought our Jimmie Carrot was going to get it.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And he did into the game, but Andy Bashir is in a unique situation of where he can gather in.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember that middle third I talked about.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: and I'm doing my drop today on overlooking rural America and that's why we keep losing elections.
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think Andy Bashir in there.
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So now he be a choice for right now like I mean if you I I won't.
24:20
[SPEAKER_02]: do that kind of thing that I will tell you that people need to start paying attention to what Andy Bashir has accomplished and what he did he got no help from FEMA in the state of Kentucky and man if he gets Amy McGrath in there is a senatorial wing woman
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: There watch out for Kentucky.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a bunch of blades what we need some common damn senses what we need in there.
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Now let me ask you this, um, do you think now I think?
24:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, we know a woman can win because Hillary won, right?
24:58
[SPEAKER_03]: She won the popular hope, but she did not win because of the electoral college.
25:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to say the same thing about Kamala Harris because of, I think part of the reason she lost is because of the media coverage and people just,
25:16
[SPEAKER_03]: either getting sick like a lot of Democrats went over to Trump.
25:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand that or they didn't vote.
25:24
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't vote.
25:25
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't vote.
25:25
[SPEAKER_02]: But I will tell you what, let's back up here.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's, I mean, let's be raw here.
25:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just lay it on the lawn.
25:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Biden promised he was just going to run one term that he was going to be a place holder and back that on his promise.
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That poor woman had to pull it together over the kerfuffle of him saying he was gone around when everybody knew he shouldn't.
25:51
[SPEAKER_02]: That's on the one hand.
25:52
[SPEAKER_02]: On the other hand, the Democratic Party from the state levels up to the national level had gotten into this thumb on the scale routine.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to take who we shoved down your throat and I'm thinking about the Bernie Sanders could, you know, then we'll take our ball and go home.
26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think people were pissed off.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: that they didn't get a chance in the primary.
26:14
[SPEAKER_02]: The primary that year, they already said it's going to be Joe.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody gets to run and then you go 90 days or so and oh, by the way, you're taking Kamala.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That really upset people and I got to be honest, rightfully so.
26:30
[SPEAKER_02]: because if she had won a primary fair and square on her own, she'd have been our president right now.
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But people felt we did not get our choice.
26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: The Democratic Party did it once again, and they've got to stop doing that.
26:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing it here in the state of Ohio.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I love Sherrod Brown.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I truly do.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Shared's got to finish out two terms.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be 76 and then is he going to run for another six years.
27:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And we got an 82 year old senator.
27:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And he waited.
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: He held out some really young talented people.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And they just coalesced immediately and said, Oh, it's great.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: This is who you're going to take.
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he lost for a reason.
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not real comfortable.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to pull back together.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And that upsets me.
27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Shared's a good man, but you know,
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think the established and the establishment democratic party is not listening to these young people.
27:33
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're not.
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're not.
27:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Got these big ol' boys with these war chests, which gets back to fixing citizens you not did.
27:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean, look, I know that they're gonna be people listening who, because I mean, I absolutely criticized the Democratic Party.
27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that we should criticize when necessary because it is a democracy.
27:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And I vote for the policies, the Democratic Party follows the policy, it's good to be good to human beings.
28:04
[SPEAKER_03]: right exactly the party itself better do some change and one of the things they did is decided they could win without rural america and it's bite nomenly as that has for the last twenty years yeah and and it's true and the thing and the thing that everyone needs to remember when i mean i get what we're up against believe me i get it i lived in in
28:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Moscow in Russia in, you know, 1981.
28:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw a communist country which was way worse than what we're experiencing now.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not naive about democracy and the thing, you know, people, people don't understand.
28:40
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't even participate and then they have all these expectations and it's I don't know.
28:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just so frustrating anyway.
28:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going off into another tangent and I need to stop doing that.
28:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you know, one of the things that I have here that I wanted to ask about is just what are some of the things that you've been covering and that are important to you that we haven't already discussed.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm trying to keep people focused.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got to start reparticipating in our democracy.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it did a good great segue into that because it's only functional if we show up.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things I brought up is.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: There again, the Democratic Party has just, all it's done was the larger urban areas.
29:23
[SPEAKER_02]: There's more votes there.
29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I get that, except my little old county in Jackson County, we'll take it for you.
29:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a 78% voter turnout, that's a drop in the bucket.
29:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's huge, drop in the bucket.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Ohio has two thirds of its counties are considered rural counties.
29:44
[SPEAKER_02]: All of the rural counties had big turnouts like that.
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So drip, drip, or fill in the bucket.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The big counties, Kaya Hoga, Franklin, Hamilton, Stark, their turnout was in the low 60s.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So guess what happens to the bucket of when you have or voters, you're not paying attention, then Trump wins 52 to 48, which is not a mandate, but he won.
30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He won a state that Obama won twice, but you know what, Obama went to the raw areas.
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we did this time, and Kamala Harris never showed up in Ohio at all, and then wondered why she got her ass kicked.
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got there again.
30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: If we fix citizens united, we're going to fix this.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I only have to campaign in six out of five for the freaking states.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and that, you know, I'm just going to say, because it brings me back to it's important to criticize and not attack, right?
30:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't attack, all right?
30:48
[SPEAKER_03]: But we have to be critical when you're a football coach, what do you do?
30:53
[SPEAKER_03]: You go back and you watch the plays, and you say, here's what we did, right?
30:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And here's what we did wrong, and this is what we have to do moving forward.
31:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's all I ever want to say.
31:02
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not I don't hate people in the Democratic Party sometimes I hate what they're doing because I don't think they're fighting hard enough or they're voting for, you know, they're voting in his nominees and things like that.
31:13
[SPEAKER_03]: When they don't have to.
31:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad you brought that up.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: People are done.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They want fighters.
31:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They want that James Carvelle.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You hit me.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to hit you back harder.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I swear to God, not a one of them, not a one of them.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Better back down on this fight with ice.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: They better not back down on that funding number one and number two, they better not back down on the save act because there's nothing but suppressing women voters.
31:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
31:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's interesting about that?
31:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to read something to you and they have to be careful here because it's about people that I know.
31:53
[SPEAKER_03]: but my mother had sent me a text last night and she said she had watched Carol Lennig and she was talking about the Save Act and so there are people we know right okay so the people that we know are mega and they're married couple and the guy is not originally he's been in America his whole life and I think that he became a citizen probably I don't know
32:22
[SPEAKER_03]: He is a naturalized citizen.
32:23
[SPEAKER_03]: He may get a letter from DHS asking if he voted in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
32:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So that would be, I know they would freak out about that because I'll bet you this maga couple has no idea what's going on.
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't know anything about the say about it.
32:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And then where the wife is concerned,
32:39
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's not her maiden name, so if her driver's license does not match to her, you know, birth certificate or whatever they make her bring, then she's not going to be able to vote.
32:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So, um, and I'm fortunate that I don't have to worry about that, but still, it's like, it's ridiculous.
32:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even think maga knows that they're going to be disenfranchising maga.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: with the fact of all, they've made a problem where there is none.
33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Most people have that real ID so they could fly.
33:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a big portion of population that has passport.
33:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I had Department of Energy Q Clarences.
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: For God's sake, this is absolutely ridiculous.
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to fly.
33:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't think it's going to pass?
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: They are getting so much flack and I tell my viewers every day.
33:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Use your five calls act.
33:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tell them you better and it's it's powerful.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's why they're That app whoever came up with that was brilliant.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: What app are you talking about?
33:46
[SPEAKER_02]: five calls app.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You put in your zip code and it brings up your congressman and your senators.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Their phone number, you click on that then it gives you a list of issues of the day.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll even give you a script if you can't ramble on.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You push a button, you make your call, and then at the end it wants to know if you made personal contact, no contact or left a message.
34:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And then after you make your three calls, it shows you how many people have called about that subject.
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's loud.
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
34:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And we are crashing.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to hear that.
34:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
34:29
[SPEAKER_03]: That's five calls.
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's in both app stores, whether you're Apple or Android.
34:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It's called five calls.
34:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It is wonderful.
34:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Get everybody on it.
34:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got people every morning.
34:41
[SPEAKER_02]: My retirees, they just sit there, push a button, and they start in through lazy boom, boom, boom.
34:47
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it needs to be and I'm going to write this down because I think you know people feel so overwhelmed and they feel like, you know, I don't have time to sit there on the phone and blah, blah, blah, blah.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking it up and what's in it's all right, therefore you push on the button for their phone number, then you pick your topic out and then you.
35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: say how you contact them, it is simple, easy, peasy, and it's right there.
35:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Every day, all three of them, plus a list, if you can't think of what you're going to talk to them about, and they even add scripts if you want to.
35:23
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just awesome.
35:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad to hear about that.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: It is amazing.
35:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yay.
35:27
[SPEAKER_03]: We need to get this out.
35:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to tell, I don't think you need to get it out.
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm surprised you didn't know about here.
35:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And all down for last, your grandma's talk to you now.
35:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's bad.
35:38
[SPEAKER_02]: That's called her Cheeriamage.
35:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll tell you, my women of a certain age are crazy about that app.
35:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That's wonderful.
35:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm going to do everything I can.
35:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to tell Allison Gill of Mueller.
35:53
[SPEAKER_03]: She wrote Daily Beans.
35:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if she knows about it.
35:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to let her know.
35:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I want her to tell everybody.
35:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Just real quick.
36:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to ask you.
36:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
36:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So, we all know that Donald Trump is not very healthy, and everybody's like, you know, taking bets on when his day finally comes.
36:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So, in my three nursing drops, no.
36:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, since wrestling, Lady McMahon said that nurses are no longer professional.
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
36:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Mammal has volunteered to be his nurse.
36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So my first one is about being his nurse and starting as I have these and all that.
36:35
[SPEAKER_02]: My second one is I actually show the prep kit for his rectal cranial disease so we can remove JD bands out of his ass.
36:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And then my third one is due to his blood work we found out Taco does not have dementia.
36:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He has mad cow disease from all the McDonald burgers.
36:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you need to watch it?
36:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, um, okay.
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously though, uh, oh quit the incisaries to give you have more pressure.
37:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to ask you this.
37:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
37:09
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, let's just say he's not there anymore, right?
37:13
[SPEAKER_03]: He goes away.
37:14
[SPEAKER_03]: whether he's a good guy, yeah, I know, but one day he's not going to be there whether he gets some peach or whatever happens and I was listening to a basically there was this man this morning and he was on YouTube and he was pontificating about Epstein and this and that and he was talking about Trump and he said, you know, Trump
37:33
[SPEAKER_03]: ran on releasing the Epstein files because there's all these killing on people talking about, you know, all the pedophiles blah, blah, blah, blah.
37:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So they were actually right, but they were wrong about who it was or at least in part.
37:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So Donald Trump is the one saying, hey, I'm going to do it.
37:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to release this because, you know, he just figured everybody would forget about it and he could just move on and that's not what happened.
37:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So at some point, he's not going to be here anymore.
37:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Whether he is or whether he's not
38:01
[SPEAKER_03]: This man made the point that the conspiracy theorists are more loyal to their conspiracies than Donald Trump.
38:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm wondering if you agree with that.
38:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And when I sit conspiracies, I mean, Epstein is no longer a conspiracy.
38:17
[SPEAKER_03]: We see what it is.
38:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, are they going to be more loyal to what they have been screaming about for years?
38:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, QAnon, have you, you haven't heard shit about having heard it?
38:31
[SPEAKER_02]: That has dropped off.
38:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's why I always laughed about QAnon.
38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I just told you I had a cute clearance.
38:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, where I worked, so did the janitor and we used to laugh if you wanted to find out anything, find the janitor because they went through the trash and they agreed stuff.
38:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've envisioned this, the queue, the head queue, when they talked about this top secret
38:54
[SPEAKER_02]: was the janitor out of the ant and the basic down of the basement type is looking for it.
39:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I can get these people to believe, you know.
39:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're not here and about that.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But
39:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You have people that have built entire brands off a conspiracy saying, and so they're looking, like I'm toast, so they don't want to let that dog go.
39:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have to give Joe Rogan a lot of credit.
39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Joe Rogan's like, whoa, wait a minute, dude, I hope you get in there, but I didn't see this coming.
39:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: your Erica Kirk is going to just drive that whole turning point into the good ditch, seeing us how Ushia upduring kind of took Jimmy off the market.
39:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Paying for that fourth baby, Ushia took him off the market so I don't know what Ushia's going to do.
39:52
[SPEAKER_02]: then Steven Miller's wife was worried, so she took Steve off the market, although I don't know who an hell would want that.
39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And then a Peter Teele gets a trouble over these Epstein files out, and who's going to finance that whole deal anyway.
40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So, well,
40:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But do you think that because the maga is, you know, they were all about Hillary and her pizza restaurant and all of the dirty males.
40:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, they're not any males now.
40:20
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, do you think that they stick, do they stick with abstine or do they believe the files or at least do they believe the truth of what's coming out or do they only, because like what I noticed when they'll find some males to move on to?
40:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's pretty much it.
40:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Their lizard brain.
40:36
[SPEAKER_02]: cannot take the leader, their, their savior.
40:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And I blame this on these white Christian nationalists.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
40:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You said you want to protect the baby.
40:48
[SPEAKER_02]: She said you wanted to protect women.
40:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But here you go.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, knowing that the man, who, according to Ted Lou, read, raped 11 girls.
41:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So moves on you.
41:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you still going to not knowing him?
41:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you still following that man as the next coming of Jesus Christ who was a brown skin dark man immigrant?
41:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, really.
41:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
41:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, and I think there will be like, I agree with what you say that the the the thirds.
41:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think most people will come along.
41:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, there's always going to be that group of people who just they don't care.
41:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the third, and you know, people say, I don't understand how this one person and my family will families have a broad base of the how the gene pool comes together.
41:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have come to my professionally unprofessional, untrained, just mammal logic that
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that people that are naturally very curious are immune then the middle portion it takes a lot but they'll come back around and they will as long as you extend a hand and okay you screw up but you know let's move on but you got that one third that throughout history.
42:09
[SPEAKER_02]: through.
42:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, people forget we had people during World War II that were pro Hitler in this country in our government.
42:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You had people that went along with McCarthyism.
42:22
[SPEAKER_02]: you're always just always that baked in.
42:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, we talked about the money in this country.
42:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if you'll remember the turn of the century, we had the robberbearance.
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we had these anti-trust laws came in.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And the robberbearance did exceptionally well until they didn't, and their who crashed the stock market.
42:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But prior to that, the rest of America was not
42:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So they talk about the stock market crash because it did in with the wealthy people, but the regular citizens, we had soup lines for 10 years or better.
42:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We had, you know, remember the grapes of Wrath were written about that, and that was before the crash of 39.
43:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
43:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're watching a mirror, except people aren't taught history anymore, because, you know, wrestling ladies says we don't need that.
43:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, one of the things that I don't know if you're familiar with this, but and and most people aren't and it's funny because my boyfriend is someone who told me about it and he's like, I just want to keep this on the download.
43:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want Republicans to know about it, but it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which is a stupid name.
43:39
[SPEAKER_03]: But basically what it is, it is, okay, so I'm going to read.
43:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It says, is an agreement among the group of US states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote.
43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So what this means is, if we can pass the national popular, you know, if we get enough states to pass, the electoral college won't matter anymore.
44:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And right now Virginia just passed it and there are literally 48 electoral votes left.
44:13
[SPEAKER_03]: We need 48 electoral votes in order to get this thing passed, which just depends on what states are going to do it.
44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have it.
44:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you look, if you open up, go ahead.
44:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'd never heard of it, but there's a simpler, a much simpler solution that could be done in a voting rights bill.
44:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's simply to go with awarding.
44:38
[SPEAKER_02]: The electors proportionately to the vote instead of winner take all that takes care of the whole problem and you don't have to enact something like that make all states proportional and it'll work out and we've got to do something you will always elect the popular vote winner if you A portion right the electors that way yeah and we just have to do it and we have to do it so that it's not like
45:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the next administration can come in and cancel it out.
45:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, you've got to get the Democrats in and they've got two years.
45:11
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got this.
45:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, narrow window.
45:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Even with Taco there can vote enough of the man to make a veto proof.
45:19
[SPEAKER_02]: They got to get it done and they got to get it done fast.
45:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, what do you think, okay, this is the last thing I'm going to ask you, but as far as the threat and of course he's going to make good on it, regardless if if Trump's the president or if JD advances the president in November, I imagine we're going to see ice out at the polls, they're going to do everything they can to intimidate and scare the shit out of us, so my question to you though, is what do you anticipate for the midterms?
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: there again, I think it's on where you live.
45:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't imagine even my most art and magna supporters in my neck of the woods tolerate an arm-demand that they're polling places where maimals in there working as a poll or I don't see it.
46:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a very large swath of this country got love Minnesota that are not going to be intimidated And it's kind of like sweet heart.
46:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to drink and just walk right past them?
46:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
46:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Hands of Marcia Rita.
46:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think we're going to have a huge blue wave?
46:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
46:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think we'll get the Senate?
46:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
46:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, please, please.
46:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll tell you what, I have kind of been fascinated by and I sent you a list of some Senate candidates I've reviewed with this independent movement of veterans.
46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You have sworn up most to the Constitution of the United States.
46:58
[SPEAKER_02]: They are left leaning and they're in states that just by putting a D after your names the kiss a death.
47:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to run as independence and I think they can pull it off because they are working.
47:08
[SPEAKER_02]: they are ahead.
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And a couple of those states don't even have a Democrat running in opposition.
47:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I think it might be very healthy to have a group to join Angus and Bernie.
47:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, absolutely, we absolutely need to make some changes.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think the most efficient governments are the ones that aren't a binary choice that you have to work in build coalitions.
47:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You hear in Europe about building a coalition government.
47:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think those are the better.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you don't have anybody that's got a super majority.
47:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we keep hearing about how America, America, is supposed to be so great and it just isn't anymore.
47:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I think for a while it really was.
47:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, when NATO puts out a statement that the number one problem is the wrecking ball of Donald Trump ruining world order, it should send a chilled out anybody's spine.
48:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So actually, I like this is the last question.
48:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Overall, I missed talking to you just because you're so cute.
48:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Overall, how do you feel about a saving democracy and then not only that because I know you I have a feeling you feel pretty good about it, but rebuilding this country and once this is over like how do you see that happening do you see that happening?
48:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we are educating a whole new young generation.
48:43
[SPEAKER_02]: When I go out on these protests and stuff, the thing that just makes my heart swell as you see.
48:49
[SPEAKER_02]: All these gray-haired people, and then all these young.
48:53
[SPEAKER_02]: people that are busy working in race and fairness.
48:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not there.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And these young people remind me of the ones in the 60s that got us all this shit.
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so if we get people that are back to being active participators of democracy again, taking their civil duties back.
49:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel really good about it.
49:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Worst thing that happened was voter apathy which citizens united dramatically created.
49:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Fox noise does not have the tread that it used to.
49:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think all in that work TV is really downword.
49:35
[SPEAKER_02]: People are so fed up and I don't like being censored in.
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that we won't come under a dictatorship because this country just wasn't founded that way.
49:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Europe is used to having monarchs.
49:51
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes any sense to you.
49:53
[SPEAKER_02]: That's their culture.
49:54
[SPEAKER_02]: They are used to.
49:56
[SPEAKER_02]: being under a month, even the ones that are now democracies, right, a monarchy, they're, they're used to not us.
50:04
[SPEAKER_02]: What would you say never been built that way?
50:07
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
50:07
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been indoctrinated on liberty and freedom.
50:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And even if we didn't have the freedom we thought we had, we were still screaming about it.
50:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So telling the other guy to shut up and then when it says, yeah, but it's also going to impact you now way to man.
50:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
50:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, I, I, I.
50:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think these online communities, I think people like you, and I got fed up with.
50:31
[SPEAKER_02]: the inertia and we said, okay, we'll get the information out and we are in it's working.
50:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and what you're doing, I mean, you're really on it all the time.
50:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I've actually pulled back a little bit because I working, you know, behind the scenes now.
50:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, it's just, I think a lot of people are doing that.
50:49
[SPEAKER_03]: We're stepping up ourselves because legacy media has failed us miserably, and eventually something's going to have to be done with that.
50:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And who at the hell is Barry Weiss?
50:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
51:00
[SPEAKER_02]: We fucking bitch.
51:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Where the hell did she come from?
51:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'd like to get her on my portion.
51:07
[SPEAKER_02]: She and I have a nice little session there.
51:10
[SPEAKER_03]: She'd be happy to go in.
51:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you would win.
51:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think she would do it.
51:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, that's so funny.
51:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I just absolutely love listening to your takes.
51:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just so fascinating because you are in the thick of the red country.
51:25
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's good to hear that there are fewer and fewer red hats around.
51:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we're gonna be doing well.
51:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm gonna have you back on before we have the midterms, of course.
51:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be asking you about them again.
51:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But for now, and our midterms are going to be in May.
51:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm kind of holding back, except for David.
51:49
[SPEAKER_02]: David's promised he'll be on my porch as soon as the weather breaks.
51:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss our buddy, David.
51:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, David tells me a lot about Amy acting.
51:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, her first choice was of outstanding one.
52:03
[SPEAKER_03]: David Pepper is just awesome.
52:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have him on Dr. Pepper.
52:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Dr. We have Dr. Pepper.
52:09
[SPEAKER_03]: So before I let you go, tell everyone where the best places are to find you.
52:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Facebook, which is mammals,
52:33
[SPEAKER_02]: What else am I on?
52:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Instagram.
52:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at you.
52:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Sub-stack.
52:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just dominating.
52:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
52:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I've just, oh my god, I have fallen into this and I need to talk to you some time.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I have just accidentally become cubic from a bridge.
52:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, you need help.
52:58
[SPEAKER_02]: you're a leader.
52:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I get phone calls.
53:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's your representative and I'm like what the hell you talk about talk to her?
53:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Well you're making you're making a difference and see that's what this is all about.
53:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You know I keep saying no one's going to come to save us we're going to save us.
53:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope this is this is how we're doing it because we're doing it ourselves and we
53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: one thing you got to give Taco back in 2016.
53:29
[SPEAKER_02]: That is what he tapped into and did brilliantly.
53:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He made online communities and we had this quiet undercurrent.
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we all got hit upside the head.
53:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're doing it.
53:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we have figured it out.
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Texas poll out there.
53:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Leanne with politics rules.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got the height.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got what you're doing.
53:51
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm doing and all of us are serving an important segment and we're also serving different people which is good.
53:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not, you know, not lumping everybody into one monolithic group and it's working.
54:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I just love you and I'm so glad that you could be on the show.
54:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much.
54:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, I will have you back again.
54:12
[SPEAKER_03]: You take care and we'll talk soon.
54:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
54:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye-bye.