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Credlin | 16 March · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the program. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: It's what's coming up on credline. More mixed messages today
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Speaker 2: from labor when it comes to fuel supply confusion only
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Speaker 2: exacerbating a bad situation. Yes, the price pinch is being
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Speaker 2: felt in the city, but it's the supply constraints in
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Speaker 2: the regions. It's turning this just from price pain into
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Speaker 2: a national crisis. Ahead of what's expected to be another
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Speaker 2: rate rise tomorrow. The Treasurer spent the weekend cynically using
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Speaker 2: the Iran war as cover for his long running economic mismanagement,
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Speaker 2: just like he did with the war in Ukraine, meaning
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Speaker 2: this looming rate hike won't be the last. As charmers
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Speaker 2: can't say no to buying votes with your money class
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Speaker 2: the AFL running cover for the CFMU as a simple
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Speaker 2: video posted by Victorian opposition leader creates a firestorm. We're
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Speaker 2: more bad news too for the AA that tribute for
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Speaker 2: the BONDI did, but removing any mention of the word Jewish,
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Speaker 2: well that's out there because they wanted to be inclusive.
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Speaker 2: I'll talk to Jess Wilson about both of these things
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Speaker 2: in just a moment, and as Donald Trump ramps up
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Speaker 2: calls for assistance see in the Strait up her Mouse.
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Speaker 2: Could the raining regime be looking for an off ramp
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Speaker 2: in this war?
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Speaker 3: They wanted negotiate badly, as they should. But I don't
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Speaker 3: think they're ready to do what they have to do.
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Speaker 3: But I think they will be ready at some point.
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Speaker 2: But first, successive governments have been worn for years that
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Speaker 2: we are dangerously exposed to a fuel crisis. Well, very little,
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Speaker 2: if anything, was done in that time, and now the
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Speaker 2: crisis has arrived. The pain in the pocket is immediate,
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Speaker 2: and the economy stopping fuel shortages are looming. It was
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Speaker 2: former Army General, the late Great Senator Jim Molan who
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Speaker 2: first warned back in twenty eighteen that Australia held just
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Speaker 2: three weeks of petrol, just a fortnight of diesel supplies
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Speaker 2: on shore, and the closure of all but two of
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Speaker 2: our fuel refineries and the near total depletion of Bass
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Speaker 2: Strait is a real problem here. He is in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 4: At the moment, from my estimations in relation to petrol,
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Speaker 4: we have something between nineteen to twenty four days in
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Speaker 4: relation to diesel. We have something between twelve to seventeen
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Speaker 4: days now.
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Speaker 2: Molan said back then that a conflict in the Middle
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Speaker 2: East could quite bring the country to a standstill within weeks.
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Speaker 2: It was after the US air strikes in Syria, then
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Speaker 2: an Iranian puppet, that Molan amped up his arguments that
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Speaker 2: he demanded that the government comply with international rules requiring
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Speaker 2: ninety days of liquid fuel reserves.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: To be fair, the Morrison government, when Angus Taylor was
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Speaker 2: the Energy Minister, did pass the Fuel Security Act in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one that required fuel importers and refiners to
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Speaker 2: maintain more stocks on shore. But even now Australia's scarcely
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Speaker 2: got a month's supply of petrol, diesel and the avgas
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Speaker 2: immediately available, even though our country can't function without them,
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Speaker 2: and thirty days is a long way off the mandated
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Speaker 2: ninety day standard. What the government misses here is not
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Speaker 2: so much the rush for petrol in the cities where
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Speaker 2: their voters live, but the demand for diesel in the
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Speaker 2: regions where so much of our nation's wealth is generated,
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Speaker 2: be that via the agricultural sector or mining and resources.
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Speaker 2: Then there's the reality that we need fuel again. Diesel
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Speaker 2: or ab gas to get what we grow or dig
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Speaker 2: up to market. With twenty percent of the world's oil
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Speaker 2: and gas coming out of the Persian Gulf and the
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Speaker 2: Straits of Hormuz now closed, not only have pump prices
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Speaker 2: spiked from under two dollars to well over two dollars,
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Speaker 2: It was two dollars seventy today when I was looking
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Speaker 2: for diesel. But there's already a serious shortages with rashting
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Speaker 2: in some rural areas. Here's David little Proud this morning
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Speaker 2: with my colleague Laura Jays.
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Speaker 5: It is a real lived experience of those of us
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Speaker 5: in regional Australia that are seeing our fuel taken away
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Speaker 5: from it. In fact, I went to fill up yesterday
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Speaker 5: at the local service station here in Clifton and they
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Speaker 5: asked us only to take forty leaders.
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Speaker 2: There you go. This rationing is already happening in the
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Speaker 2: bush because the big four oil companies seem to be
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Speaker 2: hoarding stocks rather than make them available to independent suppliers
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Speaker 2: via the wholesale market outside the big cities. And I
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Speaker 2: also want to make the point on behalf of all
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Speaker 2: of those who live in rural and regional Australia having
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Speaker 2: fuel in the tank isn't a nice to have, it's
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Speaker 2: a necessity. If you need to get to the doctor urgently,
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Speaker 2: you need fuel to get there. The luxury of ambulances
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Speaker 2: In lots of parts of the bush you don't have
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Speaker 2: the option of public transport either. Imagine you're pregnant and
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Speaker 2: you go into labor in the middle of the night.
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Speaker 2: You need to get yourself to hospital, don't you. Or
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Speaker 2: you live with someone who's elderly. There are all sorts
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Speaker 2: of reasons while fuel in the tank is needed, and
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Speaker 2: it's often a full tank that's needed to get anywhere
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Speaker 2: and then back home again too, because of the distances
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Speaker 2: that country people routinely have to drive. So what's been
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government's response to a crisis it should have
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Speaker 2: seen coming. Well, first it said there was nothing to
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Speaker 2: see here.
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Speaker 6: It's important that people know we do have a good
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Speaker 6: stock of petrol in reserve in Australia. Is no need,
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Speaker 6: no need to be concerned at this point about the
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Speaker 6: supply of diesel or petrol in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Then the forced admission that there was indeed a crisis
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Speaker 2: and that the helpless Minister there Chris Bonne, would change
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Speaker 2: fuel standards to health.
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Speaker 6: Today, I have decided to relax the requirements under the
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Speaker 6: Fuel Quality Act, mister Speaker, when it comes to solfur
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Speaker 6: content on a temporary sixty day basis. I have asked
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Speaker 6: for and received an assurance from Ampole that this extra
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Speaker 6: supply will be prioritized for regional Australia and for the
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Speaker 6: spot market to take pressure off those regional areas feeling
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Speaker 6: such pressure. The Government has done it because it is
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Speaker 6: a practical action to help farmers, to help regional Australians
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Speaker 6: through this immediate crisis.
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Speaker 2: Well, for all that bluster, now it seems that the
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Speaker 2: temporarily lower standards haven't happened because of a bureaucratic process
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Speaker 2: that's getting in the way. Here's the shadow Energy Minister Dantean.
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Speaker 7: When will the fuel that he promised would go to
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Speaker 7: regional in rural Australia as a priority get there. It's
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Speaker 7: now time that goes to the Prime Minister, because what
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Speaker 7: we're seeing is that Chris Bowen isn't being upfront with
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Speaker 7: the Australian people of the current situation. Now we had
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Speaker 7: to force him to admit that it was a national crisis.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps Labour's most ridiculous response this fuel crisis was to
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Speaker 2: simply tell Australians to buy an EV.
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Speaker 8: What is really going on is the extreme right wing
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Speaker 8: one Nation Party National Party Liberal Party approach to this,
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Speaker 8: which is to deceive Australians, to deceive Australians about what
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Speaker 8: is really going on here, making a difference for ordinary
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Speaker 8: households who are able to access electric vehicles, who drive
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Speaker 8: past petrol stations and see the signs on the petrol stations,
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Speaker 8: that is a fuel security measure right there.
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Speaker 9: What a goose.
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Speaker 2: I mean EV's are only running because of coal. That's
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Speaker 2: what powers our electric grid and that's what they plug into.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're really just coal fired cars. The Albanezer
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Speaker 2: government wants to stop all of that as well. Today,
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Speaker 2: the normally sensible government in New South Wales they joined in.
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Speaker 2: They had a fuel summit, a useless talk fest that
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Speaker 2: was long on problems and short on solutions. It's a
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Speaker 2: device to often use by politicians to look as though
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Speaker 2: they're doing something when most of the leavers to fix
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Speaker 2: this mess aren't at a state level anyway. They rest
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Speaker 2: with the federal government. But this is a federal government
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Speaker 2: with no ticker, absolutely no ticker because the one thing
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government definitely will not do, even though it
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Speaker 2: might help, is to answer the US President's call to
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Speaker 2: help escort oil tankers through the Strait of hor Moves.
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Speaker 9: But we won't be sending a ship out of the
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Speaker 9: Straight of Humors.
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Speaker 10: We're I know how incredibly important that is, but that's
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Speaker 10: not something that we've been asked.
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Speaker 9: We're contributing to.
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Speaker 2: How weak that they wheel out the Transport minister to
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Speaker 2: answer that Callay, I mean it should have been done
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Speaker 2: by the Prime Minister, with the Defense Minister an offending
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Speaker 2: can press conference. Now we're not doing it either because
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Speaker 2: we lack the ships. All we are paralyzed at thought
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Speaker 2: of taking sides, even though any outcome short of a
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Speaker 2: massive defeat for Iran would be for the world a
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Speaker 2: strategic disaster. Now there's only one solution to this. We
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Speaker 2: must get more fuel storage into this country, even though
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Speaker 2: it will cost billions to build it better. Still, we
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Speaker 2: must look harder for more oil in Australia and start
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Speaker 2: getting it out of the ground here quickly. Last month,
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Speaker 2: the state government designated what's called the tarum Trough Neroama
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Speaker 2: in Queensland as a high priority exploration area. Does anyone
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Speaker 2: think the Green Zealots in Canberra will give any hurry
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Speaker 2: up in terms of go aheads even though this resource
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Speaker 2: would make us richer and secure our supply into the future.
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Speaker 2: It would give us the fuel security that we so
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Speaker 2: need now because energy security. Fuel security is energy security,
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Speaker 2: Energy security is national security. Now. The one thing the
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Speaker 2: PM can do when it can do this immediately, though,
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Speaker 2: amongst all the other things I've suggested, it can move
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Speaker 2: on Chris Bowen, because as this crisis gets worse, and
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Speaker 2: it will, we need a minister in charge that's both
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Speaker 2: competent and has the trust of industry and all Australians.
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Speaker 2: Now on both those counts, Bowen's a failure. He was
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Speaker 2: the immigration minister in charge when Australia got more illegal
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Speaker 2: migrant votes than any other time in our history, three
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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety eight votes on his watch, carrying more
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Speaker 2: than twenty four thousand silent seekers. And that's a sorry
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Speaker 2: record that still stands today. As shadow treasure you remember
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Speaker 2: he put up those stupid tax policies that cost bills,
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Speaker 2: shorten the unlosable election.
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Speaker 6: And your listener, if they feel very strongly about this,
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Speaker 6: if they feel that this is something which should impact
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Speaker 6: on the vote.
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Speaker 11: They are of course perfectly entitled to vote again.
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Speaker 4: To him.
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Speaker 2: As Energy Minister, he's torched Australia's energy security, he sent
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Speaker 2: power price of skyrocket, and he's carpeted the country with
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Speaker 2: nigh on useless wind and solo plants at are seventy
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Speaker 2: percent foreign owned. And now look this mess at the bowser.
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Speaker 2: If there was a gold medal for incompetence, the Member
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Speaker 2: for McMahon would win it. And it's time now that
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister took these issues on himself, put them
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Speaker 2: on here disk, rather than leave these critical matters in
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Speaker 2: the hands of that clown Chris Bowen. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: get the headlines now, Truddy McIntosh.
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Speaker 12: A royal visit here in Canberra. The Prime Minister place
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Speaker 12: host to the Danish King Frederick and his Australian born
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Speaker 12: Queen Mary.
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Speaker 7: Australians have a great affection for both of you, and
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Speaker 7: we also have a great affection for Denmark.
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Speaker 12: Canberra putting on its best weather for the royal visits.
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Speaker 2: This a bit of a contrast.
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Speaker 12: For hundreds lined the Australian War Memorial fore court, A
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Speaker 12: few furry friends on hand too.
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Speaker 2: For coming out to see us.
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Speaker 13: Thank you.
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Speaker 12: Liberal leader Angus Taylor is seeking to sandbag support in
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Speaker 12: the seat of Farah ahead of the by election in May,
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Speaker 12: attending the campaign launch in Aubrey with his new candidate,
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Speaker 12: retiring MP Susan Lee, a notable absence.
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Speaker 14: I have reached out to Susan, but I also think
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Speaker 14: that she deserves a well earned break.
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Speaker 15: Ultimately, this is a by election to choose a new representative.
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Speaker 12: The Liberals hold on the seat is at risk due
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Speaker 12: to a surge and support for One Nation. Angus Taylor
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Speaker 12: still won't reveal if he's willing to do a preference
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Speaker 12: deal with Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, people's preferences are their choices.
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Speaker 2: They choose who to preference.
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Speaker 16: We want them to preference us first.
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Speaker 13: That's what we want.
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Speaker 12: And the new look Nationals front bench has been unveiled.
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Speaker 12: Leader Matt Canavan taking trade, industry and tourism, Michael McCormick
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Speaker 12: promote to water and Veterans' affairs. Former Leader David little
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Speaker 12: Proud is demoted to the outer of ministry in emergency Management.
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Speaker 12: Trudy McIntosh sky news.
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Speaker 2: Well to get across it wasn't a city, David. It's
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Speaker 2: certainly busy. Out of camera joining me now political contributor
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Speaker 2: Chris Julman, Chris will get into fuel. I do want
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Speaker 2: to congratulate you on that terrific Howard government or Howard
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Speaker 2: election doco last week. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I know
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Speaker 2: a lot of our viewers did as well. Let's go
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Speaker 2: to fuel bo and late last week dragged kicking and
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Speaker 2: screaming too, admitting that he has a crisis. He denied
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Speaker 2: it on the Tuesday. By Thursday he couldn't hide it.
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Speaker 2: He's said he's altering the fuel standards, hoping it'll free
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Speaker 2: up supply for the regions. But now we hear there's
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Speaker 2: this bureaucratic hold up and it's an issue that farmers
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Speaker 2: say they are burning on. I mean, they absolutely must
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Speaker 2: get seed into the paddock. I know people in parts
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Speaker 2: of western New South Wales and Queensland are even trying
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Speaker 2: to finish off harvest and they say they dare desperately
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Speaker 2: need supply, but they have no confidence in him anymore.
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Speaker 17: Have a listen, well, it's the wrong fuel right now.
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Speaker 17: We've got farmers across the country who've run out or
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Speaker 17: are running out of fuel and others have a couple
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Speaker 17: of weeks worth before they run out. But it's diesel,
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Speaker 17: it's not petrol. So Minister Bowen's got it completely wrong
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Speaker 17: thinking that one hundred million leaders of petrol is somehow
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Speaker 17: solving the problem. The reality is that we produce food
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Speaker 17: and fiber and then track it to the consumers with diesel.
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Speaker 17: So petrol isn't going to help.
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Speaker 18: Now.
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Speaker 2: You and I know this is going to hit the budget.
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Speaker 2: The budget will be blamed on the war in Iran.
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Speaker 2: It's got a lot to do with Chris Bowen. And
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Speaker 2: I tell you what, if I was a prime minister,
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Speaker 2: I'd co hang of this bloke out of the way
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Speaker 2: and I'd replace him because no one's got confidence in
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Speaker 2: him at all.
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Speaker 16: You look, I haven't had confidence him for a very
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Speaker 16: long time. But as you said at the top, there's
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Speaker 16: a lot of blame to go around. Here goes back
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Speaker 16: more than two decades. We were in breach of the rules,
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Speaker 16: the International Energy Agency rules on nine days was the
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Speaker 16: supplied back in twenty twelve. There was a report from
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Speaker 16: the NRMA which John Blackburn authored back in twenty fourteen,
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Speaker 16: which drew attention to this I can remember writing about
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Speaker 16: it since then, and as you said, Jim Molland drew
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Speaker 16: very big attention to this, so that many governments over
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Speaker 16: many years have left us in the position that we
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Speaker 16: are in now. And essentially what we're seeing in the
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Speaker 16: regions is there they're supplied by tier two suppliers. So
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Speaker 16: the Tier one is are the ones that you're thinking
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Speaker 16: about our ample Viva BP and so are the ones
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Speaker 16: that supply mostly the city. Is the tier two suppliers
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Speaker 16: are working really off spot market contracts. So the tier
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Speaker 16: one suppliers have contracts locked in. The two ones we're
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Speaker 16: working off the spot market. The spot market has dried up.
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Speaker 16: Now there is no fuel, which is why the regions
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Speaker 16: are running dry at the moment. Now, what we're also
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Speaker 16: seeing is we saw the Chinese on Friday basically say
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Speaker 16: that they are going to prioritize domestic consumption and stop
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Speaker 16: exporting jet fuel from their refineries. And now we've had
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Speaker 16: a Singaporeese Singaporean refinery talking about the fact that it
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Speaker 16: was going to declear force masure as well, which means
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Speaker 16: that it's the contractual clause which says that they cannot
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Speaker 16: supply it because there's a war going on at the moment,
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Speaker 16: and they cannot get the oil into their refineries. I
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Speaker 16: don't think people really understand how deeply exposed Australia is
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Speaker 16: if this continues for any length of time. Forget about
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Speaker 16: driving your evs, you know, feeling smug about that down
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Speaker 16: to the grocery shop. There will not be any groceries
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Speaker 16: on the shelves. There will not be any planes in
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Speaker 16: the sky.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 16: If we do not clear this up soon, then Australia
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Speaker 16: is deeply exposed.
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Speaker 2: When I was talking to people a deep knowledge of
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Speaker 2: the industry back when we had sort of eight refineris
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Speaker 2: in this country, I said, why did they go out
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Speaker 2: the back door? Why do they leave? In part, they
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Speaker 2: needed to upgrade the facilities, you know, new cat crackers
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Speaker 2: and other things, and it was much cheaper to do
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Speaker 2: it in Asia. But it also came down to Australian
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Speaker 2: labor laws. So part of the problem has been and
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Speaker 2: no one wants to talk about industrial relations anymore, but
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Speaker 2: part of the problem has been that we are pricing
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Speaker 2: heavy industry out of this country rather do it at
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Speaker 2: the worker level, or we're doing it at the energy level.
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Speaker 2: Because both labor and the cost of energy are the
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Speaker 2: cheopiest outlay is that most people or most companies have
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Speaker 2: to produce large scale in Australia. That's part of the
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Speaker 2: problem too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 16: Look, Australia had a settlement in the twentieth century which
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Speaker 16: was that we were a high wage economy, but we
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Speaker 16: were a low energy cost economy. Now in the twenty
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Speaker 16: first century, it appears we've decided will be both a
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Speaker 16: high wage economy and a high energy cost economy and
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Speaker 16: that simply does not work. And the other thing that
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Speaker 16: we got used to is we assumed that the settlement
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Speaker 16: which came after the Second World War was the way
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Speaker 16: that the world would always be. That you could do
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Speaker 16: this just in time delivery of fuel to Australia because
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Speaker 16: the supply lines would always be open. Now, if you've
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Speaker 16: got any imagination at all, you should always be preparing
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Speaker 16: for the worst case scenario. And we have not done that.
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Speaker 16: We have allowed ourselves to We've worked ourselves into this position.
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Speaker 16: Generations of politicians are responsible for this. We might dodge
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Speaker 16: this bull at this time, but one day we will
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Speaker 16: run out of luck. So we should at least be
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Speaker 16: using this crisis now to recognize the fact that ninety
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Speaker 16: one percent of the energy in this country, and it's
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Speaker 16: not just electricity, it's all the energy, like the way
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Speaker 16: that we drive, the way that we do manufacturing, the
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Speaker 16: way that we do mining. Ninety one percent comes from coal,
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Speaker 16: oil and gas, and forty one percent of that is
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Speaker 16: liquid fuels. Nine percent comes from a new energy. So
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Speaker 16: if you want to deal with the way that the
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Speaker 16: world is, we need to have more oil onshore.
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Speaker 1: In Australia, we're.
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Speaker 2: Looking west, obviously to the Middle East with this conflict now,
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Speaker 2: but I keep looking norse to China. And this is
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Speaker 2: a dress rehearsal not just for countries like Australia say
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Speaker 2: how unprepared we are, or to expose how unprepared we are,
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Speaker 2: but it also shows China, who are looking as they
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Speaker 2: did around the COVID issue. They're looking at how the
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Speaker 2: West is reacting to this and they can see that
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Speaker 2: we are all at sea, that we haven't got the
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Speaker 2: stocks that they have got, that we're all a crisis
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Speaker 2: of confidence as to whether Iran are good guys or
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Speaker 2: bad guys. I mean, there is this talk that President
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Speaker 2: Trump is not going to go to China as planned
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Speaker 2: in April. That's in abeyance after those comments he made
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Speaker 2: on Air Force One. Today he's saying Iran are looking
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Speaker 2: for an off ramp. The Iranians are saying, well, we
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Speaker 2: don't want to negotiate. So what does the end look
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Speaker 2: like here, Chris, It.
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Speaker 16: Looks very, very ugly at the moment.
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 16: The thing with President Trump though, is he thinks he
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Speaker 16: can just call off a war, that he starts them
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Speaker 16: and then he stops them. Well, what if Iran de
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Speaker 16: sides it wants to keep fighting. What if Iran de
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Speaker 16: sides it wants to teach the world that it does
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Speaker 16: not need a nuclear weapon to cripple the global economy
19:56
Speaker 16: because it's got a narrow straight off its coastline where
19:59
Speaker 16: it can focus all of its energy on trying to
20:01
Speaker 16: stop the oil supplies twenty percent of the world's oil,
20:05
Speaker 16: twenty percent of the world's natural gas. That's a pretty
20:07
Speaker 16: big play. And given the world runs on oil and gas,
20:10
Speaker 16: and the price of oil and gas underpins the price
20:13
Speaker 16: of everything, they can inflict enormous pain. Now with China,
20:17
Speaker 16: they've been stockpiling oil, coal, and gas for a long
20:20
Speaker 16: time now because they're preparing for a war in in Taiwan.
20:24
Speaker 16: What happens to our fuel supplies if that ever happens,
20:26
Speaker 16: because it all comes through the South China Sea, and
20:28
Speaker 16: the other country which will be laughing all the way
20:30
Speaker 16: to the bank at the moment is Russia. Russia is
20:33
Speaker 16: a huge exporter of oil. We've seen the Americans now
20:36
Speaker 16: lift the embargos in that because they need that oil
20:39
Speaker 16: and now they're getting it at an extraordinarily good price.
20:42
Speaker 16: The longer this war goes, the more Russia will have
20:45
Speaker 16: by way of money to fight its war in Ukraine.
20:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shocking set of circumstances. Thank you, Chris.
20:53
Speaker 2: Now of the controversy over the weekend and the AFL
20:55
Speaker 2: accused of political interference for its corporate affairs, boss content
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Speaker 2: at Victorian Opposition leader Jeff Wilson demanding she take down
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Speaker 2: this video.
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Speaker 11: Remember that fifteen billion dollars that Labor gave to the
21:09
Speaker 11: CFMEU went.
21:10
Speaker 9: Into the pockets of criminals.
21:12
Speaker 11: Well, it could have bought two point four billion, four
21:15
Speaker 11: and twenty pis at the footy, or enough pies to
21:18
Speaker 11: feed this crowd at twenty nine thousand games.
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Speaker 2: Now, Jess Wilson was told the footage included unauthorized match vision,
21:29
Speaker 2: but we've learned that the direction to dump the post
21:31
Speaker 2: was reportedly made by a former labor stafferer CFMEU advisor
21:37
Speaker 2: as well, and the AFL telling the Herald Son and
21:40
Speaker 2: I quote the request should not have been made. We
21:43
Speaker 2: should have addressed this internally with staff, and the AFL
21:47
Speaker 2: has reached down and communicated this to the opposition leader's office.
21:52
Speaker 2: Well that opposition leader, Jess Wilson, joins me. Now I
21:55
Speaker 2: do find an interesting You know, the premier can do
21:57
Speaker 2: a post from the footy as she did Match of
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Speaker 2: the Season last year in twenty twenty or the year
22:03
Speaker 2: before in twenty twenty four, not a peep from the AFL,
22:06
Speaker 2: but not you when you're talking about CFMU corruption.
22:09
Speaker 15: That's right, it seems when we're talking about corruption, the
22:12
Speaker 15: AFL seemed to want to get involved with the cover
22:14
Speaker 15: up of the fifteen billion dollars of taxpayer money that
22:18
Speaker 15: has lined the pockets of criminals under into Allen. But
22:21
Speaker 15: you know, Peter, when I got this request from the AFL,
22:24
Speaker 15: when my office received it, we'll flawed. How ridiculous and
22:30
Speaker 15: what I'd say to any organization, the AFL, the Labor Party,
22:33
Speaker 15: the CFMU, organized crime syndicates, is that I won't be silenced.
22:38
Speaker 9: I won't be intimidated.
22:40
Speaker 15: I will shine a light on that fifteen billion dollars
22:43
Speaker 15: of taxpayer money going to the pockets of criminals every
22:46
Speaker 15: single day.
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Speaker 2: We know the person You and I both know the
22:49
Speaker 2: person involved at the AFL, the very senior person who's
22:52
Speaker 2: come out of the labor ranks. Does this feel like
22:55
Speaker 2: certainly does to me, I'll ask you, But does this
22:57
Speaker 2: feel like anyone with a labor connection right across the
23:01
Speaker 2: Victorian media and corporate world and now having favors called
23:07
Speaker 2: in to do whatever they can to keep laboring, offers
23:10
Speaker 2: to keep Justiner allent in her job.
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Speaker 15: As I said, I just cannot understand why the AFL
23:16
Speaker 15: would want to be part of the cover up of
23:18
Speaker 15: the cfm U corruption. This is the largest corruption scandal
23:21
Speaker 15: in this state's history, and now we have the AFL
23:25
Speaker 15: playing into that.
23:26
Speaker 9: Now the labor government have their tentacles everywhere. We know
23:30
Speaker 9: that they are desperate when it comes.
23:32
Speaker 2: To trying to and they play it hard.
23:34
Speaker 15: Yes they do, they do. But let me say to you, Peter,
23:36
Speaker 15: I'll play it hard back. As I said, I'm not
23:38
Speaker 15: going to be intimidated. I'm not going to be silenced.
23:41
Speaker 15: I'm going to stand up for the Victorian taxpayer every
23:44
Speaker 15: day because fifteen billion dollars of taxpayer money has gone
23:48
Speaker 15: from government work sites to organized crime to biky gangs
23:52
Speaker 15: under this premier's watch. I'm not going to be sigenced
23:55
Speaker 15: by the AFL, not by labor, not by organized crime.
23:58
Speaker 15: I'm going to make sure I shine a light on
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Speaker 15: that every single day. And that's my message to these organizations,
24:04
Speaker 15: but to Victorians that I have their back.
24:06
Speaker 2: I'll come back to the AFL and something else in
24:07
Speaker 2: a moment. But last week I reported on the speculation
24:10
Speaker 2: that fifty million dollars will be used to basically keep
24:14
Speaker 2: the whole COVID hotel quarantine debacle out of the court room.
24:18
Speaker 2: We know we had that code inquiry, you know, absolutely
24:22
Speaker 2: mickey mouse terms of reference. They all got away with
24:25
Speaker 2: saying they don't know, can't remember, yep, shoved down the carpet.
24:30
Speaker 2: We learn today it's not fifty million, it's well over
24:34
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars. And what this means is Victorians
24:38
Speaker 2: will never get any injustice. We'll never get Breton Sutton
24:41
Speaker 2: under oath in the witness box. We'll never get Daniel
24:43
Speaker 2: Andrews in there telling us the truth of what went wrong.
24:46
Speaker 2: That's also something I know that sticks in the craw
24:49
Speaker 2: of many Victorians. But this is a cover up to
24:51
Speaker 2: protect labor in an election year.
24:54
Speaker 9: This is another cover up. So we've already had the
24:56
Speaker 9: cover up.
24:56
Speaker 15: When it comes to the CFMU and the fact that
24:58
Speaker 15: the Labor government knew about that in the fifteen billion.
25:01
Speaker 15: But you're right, we're seeing today the more than one
25:04
Speaker 15: hundred million dollars of taxpayer money. Now, I think you
25:07
Speaker 15: and I would both agree that businesses in this state
25:09
Speaker 15: have a right to be compensated for what happened.
25:11
Speaker 2: To Jena issue. And we warned I certainly warned about
25:13
Speaker 2: it at the time, Jess.
25:14
Speaker 15: Absolutely, and we know that livelihoods were destroyed throughout that period.
25:19
Speaker 15: But what the Labor government has done now has continued
25:22
Speaker 15: to cover up by finding this settlement, silencing Victorians. And
25:26
Speaker 15: you're right, we're not going to see former ministers, health ministers,
25:29
Speaker 15: public servants like Brett Sutton on the stand under oath
25:33
Speaker 15: answering questions about why they made these decisions, were they legal,
25:38
Speaker 15: were they actually related to health advice? The Labor government
25:42
Speaker 15: has gone to great lengths a great expense to the
25:44
Speaker 15: Victorian taxpayer in an election year, so that once again
25:47
Speaker 15: no light is shone on why these decisions were made
25:51
Speaker 15: back under COVID, under Premier Andrews, and why Victorians, many
25:55
Speaker 15: of who lost their livelihoods during that time as the
25:57
Speaker 15: consequence of those decisions.
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Speaker 2: I scoop back about the AFL because there's been a
26:02
Speaker 2: real brew haha today about the emission from the official
26:06
Speaker 2: tribute script regarding Bond. I've any mentioned of Jewish Australians
26:11
Speaker 2: have listened to what the well respected footy commentator Jared
26:14
Speaker 2: Healy had to say on this manner.
26:15
Speaker 1: Listen, everyone was honored on the night, the victims, the survivors,
26:20
Speaker 1: first responders and the heroic Ahmed Ahmed. Everyone that is
26:26
Speaker 1: except this Draine Jewish communities who were also indirect victims,
26:30
Speaker 1: many of whom are still suffering, and we're looking for
26:34
Speaker 1: specific validation.
26:35
Speaker 13: Now.
26:35
Speaker 1: I didn't pick it up, but the reality was that
26:38
Speaker 1: the word jew wasn't mentioned at all on the night.
26:45
Speaker 2: Now, like Thesavo, we've had a response from the Swan's
26:48
Speaker 2: Footy Club have listened to this.
26:50
Speaker 19: Whilst we didn't specifically reference the Jewish community in the script,
26:54
Speaker 19: This was in the context of those people that were
26:57
Speaker 19: on the field with us that evening, which included many
26:59
Speaker 19: of the brave first responders, community heroes, and of course
27:02
Speaker 19: those impacted the most the Jewish community. And it was
27:05
Speaker 19: through that lens in which we finalized the word spoken.
27:09
Speaker 19: We apologized on Saturday night for this, and we do
27:11
Speaker 19: so again today.
27:14
Speaker 2: This is a real mess. They were targeted because they
27:17
Speaker 2: were Jewish and the argument as to why that wasn't
27:19
Speaker 2: referenced on the day at the footy was because they
27:22
Speaker 2: wanted to be so called inclusive.
27:26
Speaker 15: I mean, we know what happened at the Bondai terror
27:29
Speaker 15: attack right. It was a targeted attack on the Jewish community.
27:32
Speaker 15: It was a huneker event and the majority of victims
27:35
Speaker 15: are Jewish Australians. Absolutely, this was an attack on the
27:39
Speaker 15: Australian way of life, on our values. I don't think
27:42
Speaker 15: anyone disagrees with that. But to not specifically mention the
27:45
Speaker 15: impact on the Jewish community when we've seen anti Semitism
27:48
Speaker 15: rise since October seven is disgraceful and once again I
27:53
Speaker 15: hate to say it because we all love our footy,
27:55
Speaker 15: but the AFL should spend less time playing politics and
27:59
Speaker 15: more time I'm actually playing footy.
28:01
Speaker 2: So say that again because this is music to my ears.
28:03
Speaker 2: I mean, the people who love their footy have just
28:06
Speaker 2: to hear. I know you do, Jess, but we've had
28:08
Speaker 2: it up to here with all of the political baggage
28:12
Speaker 2: that's associated. Every single time you want to see a
28:14
Speaker 2: ball bounced and a great game of footy in this state, you.
28:17
Speaker 15: Just want to go along, enjoy the game and not
28:19
Speaker 15: have to deal with politics. But what we've seen is
28:22
Speaker 15: the AFL once again play politics and not play footy.
28:26
Speaker 15: That's their job. Leave it to us, the politicians, to
28:29
Speaker 15: talk about the issues of the day and we'll shine
28:32
Speaker 15: a light on the corruption, but just stay out of politics.
28:35
Speaker 15: I just think that's what Victorians, what Australians are looking.
28:38
Speaker 9: For when it comes to the AFL.
28:39
Speaker 15: You go along to the mcg enjoy a pie, enjoy
28:42
Speaker 15: a beer, enjoy the footy. You don't need a side
28:44
Speaker 15: of politics.
28:45
Speaker 2: Great and you're not going to be bullied either. I
28:46
Speaker 2: like to hear that, not at all, thank you all right?
28:49
Speaker 2: Coming out the economic toll of war on everyday Australian.
28:52
Speaker 2: So how the government's going to use it as an
28:54
Speaker 2: excuse come May? In the budget plus with the budget
28:57
Speaker 2: on the way, who will pay the price of life?
29:00
Speaker 2: Big spending spree welcome back still to come? Why pro
29:09
Speaker 2: ayatola rallies over the weekend in London should be a
29:12
Speaker 2: wake up call to everyone in the West, particularly here
29:15
Speaker 2: in Australia. First though, let's go to the economic fallout
29:18
Speaker 2: from the war in Iran, with the treasure Jim Chalmers
29:21
Speaker 2: yesterday saying pretty much he's going to use this as
29:25
Speaker 2: cover for what already is a dire set of books.
29:30
Speaker 20: You know, if we are putting pencils down on those
29:32
Speaker 20: forecasts today, we'd have inflation peaking somewhere between the mid
29:36
Speaker 20: to high fours. The biggest variable, I mean really, the
29:39
Speaker 20: source of the most extraordinary volatility in our forecast and
29:42
Speaker 20: in the economy more broadly and more importantly, is really
29:46
Speaker 20: how long this drags out for.
29:50
Speaker 2: He's shameless, isn't he? Just like Ukraine now it's Iran. Well,
29:54
Speaker 2: we won't let him get away with it. Joining me
29:56
Speaker 2: someone who knows the books better than the Treasurer, the
29:58
Speaker 2: former Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl. I don't know where
30:02
Speaker 2: to start. I'm just so frustrated that he's grasping at
30:06
Speaker 2: this straw like a drowning man, David, because our inflation
30:10
Speaker 2: rate before this happened was already at three point eight percent,
30:13
Speaker 2: so well above the target ban, the RBA's target ban
30:16
Speaker 2: of two three, well above comparable economies. We should not
30:21
Speaker 2: cop this excuse.
30:27
Speaker 21: Good evening, Peter, good to be with you tonight. You're
30:30
Speaker 21: absolutely right he is making excuses. Australia is extraordinarily poorly
30:36
Speaker 21: positioned to deal with this possible all shock we're witnessing.
30:41
Speaker 21: We've had inflation at above three percent annually for seventeen
30:46
Speaker 21: out of the last eighteen quarters. The IMF has singled
30:50
Speaker 21: Australia out as a country with an entrenched inflation problem.
30:55
Speaker 21: We have a budgeting deficit, as you know, and spending
30:59
Speaker 21: growing at breakneck speed. Nominal spending is sixteen percent higher
31:06
Speaker 21: than it was two years ago, and we don't have
31:10
Speaker 21: a sustainable set of accounts over the medium term. And
31:13
Speaker 21: then thirdly, we've imposed an energy shock on ourselves by
31:17
Speaker 21: forcing expensive and unreliable wind and solar into our system,
31:21
Speaker 21: which has raised costs for consumers and businesses across the economy.
31:26
Speaker 21: So we're probably one of the worst positioned countries in
31:30
Speaker 21: the world. Notwithstanding that we export gas to deal with
31:34
Speaker 21: what we're seeing at the moment.
31:37
Speaker 2: When the Treasurer says of the weekend that inflation could
31:40
Speaker 2: hit the high fours, I mean in practical terms, David,
31:44
Speaker 2: what does that look like the households, Well, it means.
31:50
Speaker 21: That their real income is cut. So inflation lifts the
31:54
Speaker 21: price level in the economy, as you and your listeners know, Peter,
31:58
Speaker 21: and the prices of most things in the consumer basket
32:02
Speaker 21: are fifteen to twenty percent higher today than they were
32:06
Speaker 21: before the pandemic. That's a result of years of inflation,
32:10
Speaker 21: and that means that real living standards are fifteen to
32:13
Speaker 21: twenty percent lower. Now, we have had some nominal wage growth,
32:18
Speaker 21: but real wages in this country have not grown since
32:22
Speaker 21: twenty eleven.
32:25
Speaker 2: All Right, he says, everything's still on the table in
32:28
Speaker 2: terms of tax and let's say tax reform, but it's
32:32
Speaker 2: tax hikes. Let's be honest. They say they're going to
32:34
Speaker 2: be tough on savings, you know, and look to cut
32:38
Speaker 2: spending in the May budget. I can't see any of
32:42
Speaker 2: that is material. I think the spending profile and most
32:44
Speaker 2: of the big ticket portfolios that I've looked at closely
32:47
Speaker 2: out of my EFO and then into these forecasts, they're
32:50
Speaker 2: all headed up. One way, Labour would have to have
32:53
Speaker 2: fights with people in the constituency that have to take
32:57
Speaker 2: on vested interests. If they are going to cut spending,
33:00
Speaker 2: I think they've got the ticker for any of this.
33:02
Speaker 2: Where do you think they're going to land on the
33:04
Speaker 2: budget with all these sort of commitments but the reality
33:08
Speaker 2: of what they're looking at.
33:11
Speaker 21: Well, let's look at that track record. So in the
33:15
Speaker 21: last fiscal year ending in June last year, real spending
33:21
Speaker 21: growth was over five percent. That's above and above over
33:25
Speaker 21: and above inflation. And this coming well this current financial
33:29
Speaker 21: year from my IFO, Jim Chalmers is proposing to raise
33:32
Speaker 21: spending by four and a half percent in real terms.
33:36
Speaker 21: So Jim chalmers track record, regardless of his comments about savings,
33:43
Speaker 21: which usually microscopic, is to increase spending not by a
33:47
Speaker 21: little bit, but by a lot. Spending levels from the
33:50
Speaker 21: federal government as a share of the economy are at
33:53
Speaker 21: the highest they have been in forty years, apart from
33:56
Speaker 21: the pandemic. So that's what we're going to continue to
33:58
Speaker 21: see in the budget, perhaps with some cost of living relief.
34:02
Speaker 21: Now when Jim Chalmers talks about reform, you and your
34:04
Speaker 21: listeners should always substitute tax increases for that. He completely
34:09
Speaker 21: misuses that term. He came out of last year's economic
34:13
Speaker 21: roundtable wanting to hit investors and older Australians who have
34:19
Speaker 21: saved for decades with higher taxes on their savings. And
34:24
Speaker 21: as you said at the outset, Peter, he's using the
34:27
Speaker 21: Iraq War as a cover for that. Now, what the
34:29
Speaker 21: government should be doing with fiscal policy in the budget
34:32
Speaker 21: is taking pressure off the RBA board, which is likely
34:36
Speaker 21: to have to raise interest rates several more times, risking
34:39
Speaker 21: a recession and increased unemployment. The federal government can reduce
34:45
Speaker 21: or alleviate the necessity of that by cutting spending and
34:49
Speaker 21: shrinking the size of government in the economy. That brings
34:52
Speaker 21: down demand, so obviate's interest rate increases, and it also
34:57
Speaker 21: boosts the supply capacity of the economy. That's the text
35:00
Speaker 21: book response to an oil supply shock. But Jim Chalmers,
35:05
Speaker 21: based on his track record, not his rehetrick, he's likely
35:07
Speaker 21: to do precisely the opposite.
35:10
Speaker 16: You know, wrong, And of.
35:11
Speaker 2: Course we're looking at a rape rise to borrown. Of
35:13
Speaker 2: course it won't be the last, so say they experts
35:16
Speaker 2: this year. I have to leave it there, David, but
35:18
Speaker 2: thank you. After the break, the pushback against the UK
35:21
Speaker 2: government's new anti Muslim definition begins. I think what could
35:26
Speaker 2: be a very important step in both the attacking free speech,
35:30
Speaker 2: but importantly here for Australians to stop it being imported
35:34
Speaker 2: into our country. Welcome back. Coming up Labour's massive tax
35:42
Speaker 2: break to a transgender lobby group in de direct defiance
35:48
Speaker 2: of a court ruling. But now to the Free Speech Union,
35:52
Speaker 2: led by Lord Toby Young. We've had him here on
35:55
Speaker 2: the program many times. The union's mounting a legal challenge
35:59
Speaker 2: against the Labor government the UK over its official definition
36:02
Speaker 2: of Islamophobia.
36:04
Speaker 18: Bringing a legal challenge. We put the government on notice
36:06
Speaker 18: that we're going to judicially review this decision and we've
36:10
Speaker 18: asked the government to pause the rollout of this definition
36:14
Speaker 18: until our case has been heard. Parliament voted to repeal
36:18
Speaker 18: blasphemy laws in England and Wales eighteen years ago. We
36:21
Speaker 18: can't let this government bring them back in via the
36:23
Speaker 18: back door.
36:26
Speaker 2: He says. This is a huge, huge fight that they
36:28
Speaker 2: are determined to win. Johnmyan now that discussed this in
36:31
Speaker 2: other issues out of the UK. The editor of Spiked Online,
36:34
Speaker 2: Tom Slater, Well, he points out quite rightly there that
36:39
Speaker 2: there are tens of thousands of people who can lose
36:41
Speaker 2: their jobs at the say so of a labor appointed Islamophobia.
36:46
Speaker 2: Za Toby says, it's dystopian. Tom, tell us, what the
36:51
Speaker 2: heck's going on.
36:53
Speaker 13: That's a really good question. This is something which our
36:56
Speaker 13: labor government over here has plucked out, been there for
36:59
Speaker 13: reasons that we could get into, but seemed to be
37:02
Speaker 13: another enormous threat to freedom of speech. This definition of
37:05
Speaker 13: anti Muslim hostility. It's not about bringing in a new law,
37:09
Speaker 13: it's not about bringing in a new form of legal
37:12
Speaker 13: restriction on speech. But by imposing this definition on government departments,
37:15
Speaker 13: on councils, it's something that various companies are very likely
37:19
Speaker 13: to take up. It's very inclined to restrict discussion of
37:24
Speaker 13: the Islamic faith, but also more broadly Islamism. This is
37:28
Speaker 13: something that we've seen time and time again. It's going
37:29
Speaker 13: to be an added layer of censoriousness to this issue,
37:33
Speaker 13: which coming at a time when we have a huge
37:35
Speaker 13: problem of Islamist extremism in this country, when we've had
37:38
Speaker 13: huge problems of integration as affecting certain parts of the
37:42
Speaker 13: British Muslim community. It seems more likely not only to
37:45
Speaker 13: create more censorship, as Toby was saying there, but also
37:48
Speaker 13: to stop us from having the kinds of discussions that
37:51
Speaker 13: we really need to have as a country to bring
37:53
Speaker 13: us back together. So is that the Free Speech Union
37:55
Speaker 13: are absolutely right to take this as seriously as they are.
37:57
Speaker 13: This is the key fight for free expression that this
38:01
Speaker 13: government has thrown up and we need to fight it
38:02
Speaker 13: very hard.
38:04
Speaker 2: And let's be really clear. This is not a legal definition.
38:07
Speaker 2: It's not a statutory definition because there was no way
38:10
Speaker 2: they would get that through the Parliament. But what they're
38:12
Speaker 2: doing a bit like they do here in a backdoor
38:14
Speaker 2: way with welcomes to country and acknowledgments of country. They're
38:17
Speaker 2: not required by law, but the social corporate pressure applied
38:21
Speaker 2: on two individuals is that they have to sort of
38:24
Speaker 2: adopt it or they're ostracized. This is what's headed your way,
38:28
Speaker 2: and it's not about hate speech against Muslims. Just like
38:31
Speaker 2: we deplore hate speech against Jews, we'd deplore it against
38:34
Speaker 2: anyone of the Islamic faith. But it's designed to silence
38:38
Speaker 2: appropriate discussion about Islamism. About radical Islam, about British culture
38:46
Speaker 2: being I guess lost with mass migration, and it's about
38:50
Speaker 2: shutting down criticism, not about hate speech.
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Speaker 13: No, absolutely, and it does so or it will do
38:58
Speaker 13: so through the very wooly and unclear lange of this definition.
39:00
Speaker 13: It refers to negative and prejudicial stereotyping of Muslims, which
39:05
Speaker 13: in the wrong hands could lead to the crackdown on
39:07
Speaker 13: all kinds of very important conversations. We should remember, Peter,
39:11
Speaker 13: in this country, the issues, say of Pakistani Muslim grooming
39:14
Speaker 13: gangs was ignored, covered up for many decades because many
39:18
Speaker 13: councils effectively felt that it was some kind of horrific
39:22
Speaker 13: stereotype that this kind of crime might be being perpetrated
39:25
Speaker 13: and it might be overrepresented. So the states of this
39:27
Speaker 13: are very very high.
39:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just on that point, I mean, it wasn't
39:31
Speaker 2: even you weren't even calling them Muslim Pakistani gangs. They're
39:37
Speaker 2: under the cover of I think you call them Asian gangs.
39:41
Speaker 2: But also the grooming, the term grooming belie the fact
39:45
Speaker 2: that this was mass rapes of young British girls that
39:51
Speaker 2: was also hidden away in a lot of the reports.
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Speaker 2: How how is Britain traveling. I mean, I haven't been
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Speaker 2: to Line for about a year. When I was last there,
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Speaker 2: the feature of these big pro Palestinian rallies out there
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Speaker 2: on the streets dominated the news and it certainly I
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Speaker 2: felt unsafe getting around parts of London, around the tourist
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Speaker 2: areas even then. But you've had this huge rally on
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Speaker 2: the weekend ol Could's Day rally. Tell me about that one.
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Speaker 13: So this was a real low point for Britain, precisely
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Speaker 13: for the reasons that you've said. For a long time
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Speaker 13: it's felt like we've had this rising Islamic sectarianism and
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Speaker 13: this really grotesque way in which that spilled out into
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Speaker 13: the streets over the seventh Al Could's Day demonstration. This
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Speaker 13: has been something that's been going on for decades. It
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Speaker 13: was something that was actually called for and initiated by
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Speaker 13: the late Iola Kamane, not even Hamminae, the one who
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Speaker 13: was just dispatched by the US and Israel, and it's
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Speaker 13: always turned into a kind of carnival of hatred, and
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Speaker 13: precisely the way you would expect. What we saw this
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Speaker 13: year was that even though the demonstration was banned, it
40:55
Speaker 13: was allowed to take a kind of static protest on
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Speaker 13: one side of the river, there were a rec for
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Speaker 13: people who were engaged in public order offenses. There were
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Speaker 13: people who were referring to the I Tooler as a
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Speaker 13: great martyr, chanting death to America, death to Israel. And
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Speaker 13: in my own colleague Brendan O'Neill was effectively rushed out
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Speaker 13: of that demonstration because he was asking it opportunity in
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Speaker 13: questions of people there, and the kind of placards they
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Speaker 13: were waving. So it's a really reminder that in the
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Speaker 13: wake of October seventh, in the wake of the Iran
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Speaker 13: US Israel War, people within our own society are taking
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Speaker 13: the side not of the West and Western values, however
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Speaker 13: you feel about the current conflict, but on the side
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Speaker 13: of the theocrats and of the Islamists, and doing so
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Speaker 13: loudly and proudly on the streets of London. We've got
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Speaker 13: a huge problem that we need to deal with here.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you do have a problem, Tom, but their problem
41:48
Speaker 2: will come here if we don't to wake up in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. I'll make this point yet
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Speaker 2: again to my audience. Campaigning techniques in my thirty years
41:57
Speaker 2: experience will often come across to austral from the United States.
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Speaker 2: But campaigning values, policies, decisions like this on Islamophobia inevitably
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Speaker 2: come to Australia via our Labor Party from the UK.
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Speaker 2: So you want to know where Australia is going to
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Speaker 2: be in five and ten years time, just have a
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Speaker 2: look at Britain. That's why it matters. After the break
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Speaker 2: Labour's mass running through this huge tax breakthrough the Parliament
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Speaker 2: for a trans lobby group. We'll get into that, but
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Speaker 2: real cutos to Premier Chris of Foley. Big changes there
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Speaker 2: and how they vit people to work with children. If
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Speaker 2: they can make the system as good as that they've
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Speaker 2: made it. Now, why isn't this nationwide? My Monday panel
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Speaker 2: in the moment? All right, lots to get across. Let's
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Speaker 2: get straight into it now with the former Liberal Mpandacole
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Speaker 2: Flint and Scarney's host Jamie Rodgers. Flinty, I'll look for
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Speaker 2: you very carefully in the lead up, of course to
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Speaker 2: the South Australia an election. You're joining the team here
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Speaker 2: at Sky and I will watch it with interest. But
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Speaker 2: let's go to this story today in the paper that
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer governments rushing through the Parliament a massive tax
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Speaker 2: break to the trans lobby group Equality Australia. And this
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Speaker 2: is in defiance of rulings by multiple courts, Federal Court
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Speaker 2: amongst them, that it's a political advocacy organization so not
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Speaker 2: entitled to register as a public, benevolent fund or an institution.
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Speaker 2: There you go, They're going to go through it via
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Speaker 2: the legislation route and they'll get a tax break. Nicole Flint,
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Speaker 2: what do you make of this?
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Speaker 10: I think it's absolutely appalling, Peter. Australian women should contact
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Speaker 10: their local MP, but particularly they should be contacting every
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Speaker 10: single Labor MP in the nation demanding that we get
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Speaker 10: our sex based rights back. This particularly impacts people like
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Speaker 10: sal Grover, who is currently being dragged through the courts
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Speaker 10: because she stands up for the definition of a woman
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Speaker 10: by this group and it's unfairly disadvantaging them. They are also,
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Speaker 10: of course impacting the lesbian community who now have no
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Speaker 10: right to have female only meetings. I am disgusted by
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Speaker 10: the Labor Party's actions. I'm not surprised it was Julia
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Speaker 10: Gillard after all, that erased women's sex based rights in
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Speaker 10: twenty thirteen. This has to stop, and I hope that
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Speaker 10: the federal Opposition holds them to account. But I would
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Speaker 10: encourage all women out there and men who care about
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Speaker 10: our rights to contact Labor MP's and say enough is enough,
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Speaker 10: this is just it's got to stop.
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Speaker 14: Jamie Nicole, you were a spot on and in your
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Speaker 14: question Peter when you spoke about how Equality Australia were
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Speaker 14: denied DGR status by the Charity Regulator. They then went
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Speaker 14: to the court twice and on both occasions they were declined.
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Speaker 14: So Anna Brown, who is the CEO of Equality Australia,
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Speaker 14: who is a former Labour staffer, then wrote through the
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Speaker 14: Assistants Charity Minister in Andrew Lee, who then made the
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Speaker 14: amendment to the legislation and I just think Labor have
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Speaker 14: gone completely against the courts and the Charity Regulator who
45:11
Speaker 14: set a high standard of who should be receiving DGR status.
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Speaker 14: So Labor of effectively now lowered the bar for an
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Speaker 14: organization that are against female only spaces for biological women. Now,
45:23
Speaker 14: the Coalition and One Nation have said that they will
45:25
Speaker 14: put an amendment out there to try and remove Equality
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Speaker 14: Australia from this DGR group of organizations. But unless they
45:32
Speaker 14: get the support of Greens and the cross Bench, it
45:34
Speaker 14: looks like Labor will get this legislation put through.
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Speaker 9: It is absolutely appalling.
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Speaker 2: So whenever you hear someone saying that the libels have
45:43
Speaker 2: got a problem with women or a women's problem, now
45:45
Speaker 2: they don't. Labor are the ones with a women's problem.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to this. Really, I think substantial win for
45:53
Speaker 2: the Queensland l and P, particularly for David Chrisoffley who's
45:57
Speaker 2: been such a champion of this issue Queenslands. While Sex
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Speaker 2: Defended register has been attributed to helping police up there
46:03
Speaker 2: catch two dangerous predators who could have had unsupervised contact
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Speaker 2: with children. There's also been some two hundred and five
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Speaker 2: thousand searches of the database in just seventy five days now, Nick,
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Speaker 2: this has demonstrated that a register at a state level
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Speaker 2: can work. You know, all the critics said it wouldn't work,
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't be effective. While it's proven to be effective.
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Speaker 2: Why can't we then have this out rolled across the
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Speaker 2: country precisely?
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Speaker 10: Why can't we This is an absolute disgrace that every
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Speaker 10: single premiere around the nation hasn't picked up the phone
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Speaker 10: to David christa bully and said, premiere, how have you
46:41
Speaker 10: done this? And how do we implement it here? And
46:43
Speaker 10: quite frankly, Prime Minister Anthony ALBERNIZI should have picked up
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Speaker 10: the phone as well and said, I want you to
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Speaker 10: present to the next National Cabinet meeting so that we
46:52
Speaker 10: can see children and their parents able to protect their
46:56
Speaker 10: children around the nation.
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Speaker 2: Without another member of the Iranian women's football team returned
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Speaker 2: to Iran, we've got the fifth member. I think, now
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Speaker 2: what concerns me, Jamie. You know there's been nothing from
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Speaker 2: the United Nations, nothing from the women's lobby, very little
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Speaker 2: publicly out there to support these women. It's like Iranian
47:17
Speaker 2: women don't matter, but the guards and women do. Why
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Speaker 2: is double standard? Both Muslim? I might add, they're both Muslim.
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Speaker 14: You're spot on, you are absolutely spot on where the
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Speaker 14: double standard is. I've said this before. Where's the outcry
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Speaker 14: of women in the West or people anywhere that are
47:34
Speaker 14: standing up and helping the Iranians in their country, but
47:37
Speaker 14: also those that are here. And it's just so distressing
47:41
Speaker 14: when we're hearing the reports of what is happening with
47:43
Speaker 14: these women. Allegedly there was an Islamic and a regime
47:47
Speaker 14: connected team person that was infiltrated their safe house, but
47:51
Speaker 14: then also there was reports that their family members had
47:54
Speaker 14: gone missing or they had been detained, and that the
47:58
Speaker 14: coach did put out a post and said that because
48:01
Speaker 14: of what that Iranian state media had said by calling
48:04
Speaker 14: those women wartime traders, that that then set this whole
48:07
Speaker 14: turmoil into action, and she was then saying that was
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Speaker 14: what's happened, But she since removed that post. And I
48:14
Speaker 14: just think Peter, Australians are all going to be watching
48:16
Speaker 14: to see what happens with these women. It is just
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Speaker 14: so distressing to see. But where is the outcry. We
48:22
Speaker 14: need to have people that are standing up and supporting them.
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Speaker 2: I've run out of time, Nick, but I'll come back
48:27
Speaker 2: to you next week because I know you're on land
48:30
Speaker 2: and this feel scarcity issues on a price issue. For
48:33
Speaker 2: you alone, it's a scarcity issue is really starting to bite.
48:36
Speaker 2: Better amount of time, I'll leave it there. Thank you
48:38
Speaker 2: to you both, Nicolin, Jamie and Jamie Wald on your show.
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Speaker 2: I watch it again last night. It's a cracker on
48:43
Speaker 2: Sunday night. Don't miss it. Jamie's got a new program.
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Speaker 2: That's it for me. See you tomorrow night.
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Speaker 9: Is Andrew