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Into the Absolute: At One with the Radiant Source of All, with A. H. Almaas (Part 1) · Deep Transformation

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  Welcome
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  to
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  part
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  one
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  of
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  our
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  16th
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  dialogue
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  in
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  the
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  A.
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  H.
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  Almaas
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  Wisdom
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  series,
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  aka
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  Hameed
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  Ali.
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  In
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  this
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  conversation
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  we
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  explore
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  the
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  Absolute,
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  the
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  source
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  of
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  all,
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  what
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  it
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  is,
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  how
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  the
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  experience
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  of
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  the
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  Absolute
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  changes
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  us
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  and
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  what
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  to
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  do
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  with
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  the
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  knowledge
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  and
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  recognition
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  of
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  the
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  Absolute.
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  Welcome
• 0:22
  to
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  deep
• 0:23
  transformation,
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  Self,
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  society,
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  spirit,
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  life
• 0:26
  enhancing,
• 0:27
  paradigm
• 0:28
  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplative
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  I'm
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  our
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  co
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  host
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  is
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  And
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  today
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  we
• 0:42
  are
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  just
• 0:43
  delighted
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  to
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  continue
• 0:45
  our
• 0:45
  A.
• 0:45
  H.
• 0:46
  Almaas
• 0:46
  Wisdom
• 0:47
  series
• 0:47
  in
• 0:48
  which
• 0:48
  we're
• 0:48
  dialoguing
• 0:49
  with
• 0:49
  Hameed
• 0:49
  Ali,
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  the
• 0:50
  founder
• 0:51
  and
• 0:51
  creator
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  of
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  the
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  Diamond
• 0:52
  Approach
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  and
• 0:53
  the
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  RidhwanSchool,
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  and
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  working
• 0:55
  our
• 0:55
  way
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  systematically
• 0:56
  through,
• 0:57
  I
• 0:57
  was
• 0:57
  about
• 0:57
  to
• 0:57
  say
• 0:57
  his
• 0:58
  magnum
• 0:58
  opus,
• 0:58
  but
• 0:59
  he
• 0:59
  has
• 0:59
  so
• 0:59
  many
• 0:59
  magnum
• 1:00
  opuses,
• 1:02
  but
• 1:02
  certainly
• 1:02
  one
• 1:02
  of
• 1:03
  his
• 1:03
  central
• 1:04
  texts,
• 1:05
  the
• 1:05
  Inner
• 1:05
  Journey
• 1:06
  Home,
• 1:07
  is
• 1:07
  a
• 1:08
  very
• 1:08
  comprehensive
• 1:10
  map
• 1:11
  of
• 1:11
  the
• 1:11
  spiritual
• 1:12
  path
• 1:12
  of
• 1:13
  our
• 1:13
  fundamental
• 1:14
  human
• 1:14
  psychology
• 1:15
  and
• 1:15
  spirituality
• 1:16
  and
• 1:17
  our
• 1:17
  fundamental
• 1:18
  nature.
• 1:19
  And
• 1:20
  we
• 1:20
  have
• 1:21
  been
• 1:21
  progressing
• 1:22
  through
• 1:22
  this.
• 1:22
  We're
• 1:23
  now
• 1:23
  in
• 1:23
  our
• 1:24
  16th
• 1:24
  dialogue.
• 1:25
  We're
• 1:25
  also
• 1:25
  in
• 1:26
  chapter
• 1:26
  21
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  of
• 1:27
  this
• 1:27
  book
• 1:27
  titled
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  the
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  Absolute
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  and
• 1:30
  Emptiness.
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  And
• 1:31
  I
• 1:31
  have
• 1:31
  a
• 1:31
  mark
• 1:31
  at
• 1:32
  the
• 1:32
  top
• 1:32
  of
• 1:32
  the
• 1:32
  chapter.
• 1:33
  This
• 1:33
  is
• 1:33
  my
• 1:34
  favorite
• 1:34
  chapter,
• 1:35
  which
• 1:35
  is
• 1:35
  not
• 1:36
  to
• 1:36
  say
• 1:37
  an
• 1:37
  easy
• 1:37
  chapter.
• 1:38
  It
• 1:38
  is
• 1:39
  truly
• 1:39
  profound.
• 1:40
  And
• 1:40
  John
• 1:41
  and
• 1:41
  I
• 1:41
  have
• 1:41
  had
• 1:42
  our
• 1:42
  minds
• 1:43
  blown
• 1:43
  open
• 1:43
  and
• 1:43
  our
• 1:44
  heads
• 1:44
  cracked
• 1:45
  as
• 1:45
  we
• 1:45
  have
• 1:46
  worked
• 1:46
  very
• 1:46
  intensively
• 1:47
  studying
• 1:47
  this
• 1:48
  and
• 1:48
  dialoguing
• 1:49
  back
• 1:49
  and
• 1:49
  forth
• 1:50
  and
• 1:50
  now
• 1:50
  have
• 1:50
  the
• 1:50
  privilege
• 1:51
  of
• 1:51
  dialoguing
• 1:53
  specifically
• 1:53
  with
• 1:53
  Hameed
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  about
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  this.
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  And
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  Hameed,
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  so
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  maybe
• 1:57
  the
• 1:57
  way
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  I'll
• 1:58
  begin
• 1:58
  is
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  by
• 1:59
  quoting
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  you
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  as
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  you
• 2:00
  talk
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  about
• 2:01
  the
• 2:01
  Absolute,
• 2:02
  which
• 2:02
  is
• 2:03
  as
• 2:03
  you
• 2:03
  describe
• 2:04
  as
• 2:04
  the
• 2:04
  fundamental
• 2:06
  words
• 2:06
  fail
• 2:07
  of
• 2:07
  course,
• 2:08
  but
• 2:08
  the
• 2:08
  fundamental
• 2:09
  substrate
• 2:10
  of
• 2:11
  reality
• 2:12
  or
• 2:12
  deepest
• 2:13
  depths.
• 2:13
  And
• 2:14
  you
• 2:14
  say
• 2:15
  that
• 2:15
  by
• 2:15
  simply
• 2:16
  you
• 2:16
  talk
• 2:16
  about
• 2:16
  the
• 2:17
  unmanifest.
• 2:18
  You
• 2:18
  begin
• 2:19
  by
• 2:19
  talking
• 2:19
  about
• 2:19
  the
• 2:20
  unmanifest
• 2:20
  in
• 2:20
  you
• 2:21
  talk
• 2:21
  about,
• 2:22
  say
• 2:23
  by
• 2:23
  simply
• 2:24
  witnessing
• 2:24
  the
• 2:25
  process
• 2:25
  of
• 2:25
  manifestation.
• 2:26
  The
• 2:27
  way
• 2:27
  the
• 2:28
  world,
• 2:28
  the
• 2:29
  universe
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  appears
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  without
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  getting
• 2:31
  caught
• 2:31
  up
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  in
• 2:32
  it.
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  The
• 2:32
  soul
• 2:33
  experiences
• 2:34
  itself
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  as
• 2:35
  the
• 2:35
  background,
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  as
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  a
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  vast
• 2:38
  silent
• 2:39
  witness,
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  and
• 2:41
  becomes
• 2:41
  this
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  vast
• 2:42
  silent
• 2:43
  expanse
• 2:43
  underlying
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  the
• 2:44
  process
• 2:45
  of
• 2:45
  continual
• 2:46
  creation.
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  And
• 2:46
  we
• 2:47
  discover
• 2:47
  a
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  dimension
• 2:49
  deeper
• 2:50
  than
• 2:50
  any
• 2:50
  other,
• 2:51
  which
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  you
• 2:52
  call
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  Absolute,
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  the
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  source
• 2:54
  of
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  all
• 2:54
  manifestation,
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  which
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  is
• 2:56
  also
• 2:56
  its
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  ultimate
• 2:58
  and
• 2:58
  absolute
• 2:59
  nature.
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  Okay,
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  that's
• 3:00
  a
• 3:00
  lot.
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  I'm
• 3:01
  going
• 3:01
  to
• 3:01
  turn
• 3:02
  it
• 3:02
  over
• 3:02
  to
• 3:02
  you.
• 3:03
  Doing
• 3:03
  a
• 3:04
  good
• 3:04
  job.
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  I'm
• 3:06
  quoting
• 3:06
  you,
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  Hameed.
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  That's
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  why.
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  Yeah,
• 3:09
  for
• 3:10
  sure.
• 3:10
  I
• 3:10
  mean
• 3:10
  a
• 3:11
  good
• 3:11
  sentence
• 3:11
  isn't.
• 3:12
  I
• 3:12
  mean,
• 3:12
  yeah,
• 3:14
  you
• 3:14
  know,
• 3:14
  this
• 3:15
  chapter
• 3:15
  is
• 3:15
  in
• 3:16
  some
• 3:16
  sense
• 3:16
  is
• 3:16
  the
• 3:17
  apex
• 3:17
  of
• 3:17
  the
• 3:18
  book.
• 3:19
  And
• 3:19
  it's
• 3:20
  going
• 3:20
  up,
• 3:20
  you
• 3:21
  know,
• 3:21
  deeper
• 3:21
  and
• 3:21
  deeper
• 3:22
  and,
• 3:22
  or
• 3:23
  higher
• 3:23
  and
• 3:23
  higher
• 3:23
  and
• 3:24
  gets
• 3:24
  to
• 3:24
  this
• 3:24
  place
• 3:25
  after
• 3:25
  that
• 3:26
  another
• 3:26
  trajectory
• 3:27
  takes
• 3:28
  over.
• 3:29
  We
• 3:29
  moving
• 3:30
  toward
• 3:30
  this
• 3:31
  all
• 3:31
  this
• 3:31
  time,
• 3:32
  you
• 3:32
  see,
• 3:33
  because
• 3:33
  it
• 3:33
  is
• 3:34
  a
• 3:34
  source
• 3:34
  dimension.
• 3:35
  I
• 3:36
  call
• 3:36
  it
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  source
• 3:36
  dimension
• 3:37
  partly
• 3:37
  because
• 3:38
  in
• 3:38
  our
• 3:39
  discussion
• 3:40
  in
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  last
• 3:41
  few
• 3:42
  meetings,
• 3:43
  we've
• 3:43
  been
• 3:43
  discussing
• 3:44
  what
• 3:44
  I
• 3:44
  call
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  boundless
• 3:45
  dimension.
• 3:45
  And
• 3:46
  I
• 3:46
  numerated
• 3:47
  five
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  them.
• 3:48
  Start
• 3:48
  with
• 3:48
  love
• 3:49
  and
• 3:50
  pleasant,
• 3:50
  your
• 3:51
  being
• 3:51
  and
• 3:52
  awareness.
• 3:53
  And
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  last
• 3:53
  one
• 3:53
  was
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  dynamism,
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  creative
• 3:55
  dynamism
• 3:55
  that
• 3:55
  creates
• 3:56
  everything
• 3:56
  logos.
• 3:58
  And
• 3:58
  then
• 3:59
  you
• 3:59
  wonder,
• 3:59
  where
• 3:59
  does
• 4:00
  it
• 4:00
  all
• 4:00
  come
• 4:00
  from,
• 4:01
  created
• 4:01
  dynamism?
• 4:02
  What
• 4:02
  does
• 4:02
  it
• 4:02
  create?
• 4:03
  It's
• 4:03
  creating.
• 4:04
  Is
• 4:04
  it
• 4:04
  creating
• 4:05
  from
• 4:05
  itself?
• 4:06
  Usually
• 4:07
  that
• 4:07
  can
• 4:07
  take
• 4:07
  us
• 4:08
  to
• 4:08
  that
• 4:08
  question,
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  the
• 4:10
  source
• 4:10
  of
• 4:10
  where
• 4:11
  this
• 4:11
  creation
• 4:11
  come
• 4:12
  from.
• 4:12
  Because
• 4:13
  many
• 4:14
  people
• 4:14
  think
• 4:14
  that,
• 4:14
  you
• 4:15
  know,
• 4:15
  things
• 4:15
  are
• 4:16
  potential,
• 4:16
  meaning
• 4:16
  as
• 4:17
  if
• 4:17
  things
• 4:17
  are
• 4:17
  sitting
• 4:18
  someplace
• 4:18
  and
• 4:19
  somebody
• 4:19
  manifests
• 4:20
  them.
• 4:20
  Actually
• 4:21
  nothing
• 4:21
  is
• 4:21
  sitting.
• 4:21
  Any
• 4:22
  plane.
• 4:23
  Source
• 4:24
  has
• 4:24
  nothing
• 4:25
  in
• 4:25
  it.
• 4:26
  And
• 4:27
  the
• 4:27
  potential
• 4:28
  doesn't
• 4:28
  mean
• 4:29
  things
• 4:29
  that
• 4:30
  sitting
• 4:30
  there
• 4:30
  waiting
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  be
• 4:31
  manifesting.
• 4:32
  It's
• 4:33
  more
• 4:33
  nothing
• 4:33
  and
• 4:34
  nothing.
• 4:34
  Things
• 4:34
  are
• 4:35
  actually
• 4:36
  created
• 4:36
  out
• 4:36
  of
• 4:37
  an
• 4:37
  air
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  some
• 4:38
  sense
• 4:39
  out
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  nothing.
• 4:40
  Of
• 4:40
  nothing.
• 4:41
  Yeah.
• 4:41
  Out
• 4:41
  of
• 4:41
  complete.
• 4:42
  I
• 4:43
  mean,
• 4:43
  so
• 4:43
  nothing
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  is
• 4:44
  more
• 4:44
  than
• 4:44
  nothing.
• 4:45
  But
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  name
• 4:46
  absolute
• 4:47
  is
• 4:47
  not.
• 4:48
  I'm
• 4:48
  not
• 4:48
  original
• 4:49
  on
• 4:49
  it.
• 4:50
  Many
• 4:50
  teaching
• 4:50
  call
• 4:51
  it
• 4:51
  the
• 4:51
  Absolute,
• 4:52
  you
• 4:52
  know,
• 4:53
  Absolute.
• 4:54
  I
• 4:55
  call
• 4:55
  it
• 4:55
  Absolute.
• 4:56
  I
• 4:56
  talk
• 4:56
  about
• 4:57
  dimension
• 4:57
  absolute.
• 4:58
  But,
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  know,
• 5:00
  many
• 5:00
  teachings
• 5:00
  talk
• 5:01
  about
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  Absolute.
• 5:01
  Many
• 5:02
  teachings
• 5:02
  talk
• 5:02
  about
• 5:03
  this
• 5:03
  dimension,
• 5:04
  although
• 5:05
  most
• 5:06
  other
• 5:06
  teachings
• 5:06
  don't
• 5:07
  talk
• 5:07
  about
• 5:07
  five
• 5:08
  dimensions.
• 5:08
  The
• 5:09
  way
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  do
• 5:09
  differentiate
• 5:11
  these
• 5:12
  into
• 5:13
  five
• 5:13
  dimension
• 5:14
  because
• 5:14
  that's
• 5:15
  how
• 5:15
  they
• 5:15
  appeared
• 5:15
  in
• 5:16
  this
• 5:16
  path,
• 5:16
  one
• 5:17
  after
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  other
• 5:17
  revealing.
• 5:18
  And
• 5:19
  each
• 5:19
  one
• 5:19
  revealed
• 5:20
  its
• 5:20
  own
• 5:21
  perspective,
• 5:21
  its
• 5:22
  own
• 5:22
  knowledge,
• 5:22
  its
• 5:23
  own
• 5:23
  contribution
• 5:24
  to
• 5:24
  experience
• 5:25
  and
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  reality.
• 5:27
  And
• 5:27
  then
• 5:27
  this
• 5:28
  happens.
• 5:29
  And
• 5:29
  for
• 5:29
  me,
• 5:29
  that
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  sort
• 5:31
  of,
• 5:32
  for
• 5:32
  a
• 5:32
  long
• 5:33
  time
• 5:33
  was
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  dominant
• 5:34
  condition.
• 5:35
  The
• 5:35
  materialization
• 5:36
  lasted
• 5:37
  years
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  years
• 5:38
  and.
• 5:38
  Years
• 5:38
  of
• 5:39
  just
• 5:39
  being
• 5:39
  in
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  Absolute.
• 5:40
  Yeah,
• 5:41
  okay.
• 5:42
  Yeah.
• 5:42
  Being
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  Absolute.
• 5:44
  And
• 5:44
  for
• 5:45
  many
• 5:45
  teachings,
• 5:45
  it
• 5:46
  is
• 5:46
  what
• 5:46
  continues
• 5:47
  forever.
• 5:47
  Like
• 5:47
  Ramana
• 5:48
  Maharshi
• 5:49
  is
• 5:49
  always
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  Absolute.
• 5:50
  And
• 5:50
  he's
• 5:51
  talk
• 5:51
  about
• 5:51
  silence.
• 5:52
  That
• 5:53
  was
• 5:53
  his
• 5:54
  station.
• 5:55
  You
• 5:55
  know,
• 5:55
  he
• 5:55
  remained
• 5:56
  all
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  his
• 5:56
  life
• 5:56
  till
• 5:57
  he
• 5:57
  died
• 5:57
  in
• 5:57
  that
• 5:57
  place.
• 5:58
  But,
• 5:59
  you
• 5:59
  know,
• 5:59
  I
• 6:00
  think
• 6:00
  Zhan
• 6:01
  has
• 6:01
  it.
• 6:01
  Roger,
• 6:02
  you
• 6:02
  know,
• 6:03
  found
• 6:03
  out
• 6:03
  from
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  chat
• 6:04
  repeating.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:06
  they
• 6:06
  call
• 6:07
  it
• 6:07
  Dharmakaya.
• 6:08
  It's
• 6:08
  the
• 6:09
  closest
• 6:09
  thing
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  dharmakaya.
• 6:13
  Zoukin
• 6:14
  and
• 6:14
  Muhammad
• 6:14
  talk
• 6:15
  about
• 6:15
  Nirmanakana,
• 6:17
  Sabogakaya
• 6:18
  and
• 6:18
  Dharmakaya.
• 6:19
  Dharmakaya
• 6:20
  is
• 6:20
  the
• 6:21
  closest
• 6:21
  thing
• 6:21
  to
• 6:22
  the
• 6:22
  Absolute.
• 6:23
  Means
• 6:24
  it's
• 6:24
  the
• 6:25
  energrama
• 6:26
  that
• 6:27
  doesn't
• 6:27
  have
• 6:27
  anything
• 6:28
  in
• 6:28
  it
• 6:28
  from
• 6:29
  which
• 6:29
  everything
• 6:30
  manifests.
• 6:31
  Of
• 6:31
  course,
• 6:31
  my
• 6:32
  language
• 6:32
  is
• 6:32
  different
• 6:33
  than
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  would
• 6:34
  be
• 6:35
  different.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:36
  of
• 6:36
  course,
• 6:36
  Zouchin
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  many
• 6:37
  others,
• 6:38
  they
• 6:38
  emphasize
• 6:40
  more
• 6:40
  the
• 6:41
  dimension
• 6:41
  that
• 6:41
  emerges,
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  awareness,
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  know,
• 6:44
  but
• 6:45
  from
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  perspective
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  absolute
• 6:46
  awareness
• 6:47
  is
• 6:47
  emergent
• 6:48
  from
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  absolute
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  in
• 6:52
  some
• 6:52
  sense
• 6:53
  is
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  inner
• 6:53
  nature
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  awareness
• 6:56
  and
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  back
• 6:59
  of
• 7:00
  awareness.
• 7:01
  Awareness
• 7:02
  has
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  front
• 7:02
  and
• 7:02
  back,
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  front
• 7:04
  of
• 7:04
  the
• 7:05
  clarity,
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  back
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  emptiness
• 7:07
  that
• 7:07
  attract.
• 7:08
  That's
• 7:08
  how
• 7:08
  Dzog
• 7:09
  Jain
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  Mahamuda
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  a
• 7:10
  minute
• 7:10
  talk
• 7:10
  about
• 7:11
  clarity
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  emptiness.
• 7:13
  Well,
• 7:13
  what's
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  emptiness?
• 7:14
  They
• 7:15
  call
• 7:15
  it
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  lack
• 7:17
  of
• 7:18
  inherent
• 7:18
  existence.
• 7:20
  Right?
• 7:20
  How
• 7:20
  do
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  know
• 7:21
  about
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  lack
• 7:22
  of
• 7:22
  inherent
• 7:22
  existence?
• 7:24
  Well,
• 7:24
  lack
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  inherent
• 7:25
  existence
• 7:25
  when
• 7:25
  it
• 7:26
  is
• 7:26
  experienced,
• 7:27
  when
• 7:27
  it's
• 7:27
  experiential.
• 7:30
  Exactly.
• 7:30
  That
• 7:31
  absence
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  lack
• 7:32
  of
• 7:33
  heated
• 7:33
  existence
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  hid
• 7:34
  existence
• 7:34
  is
• 7:35
  being.
• 7:36
  It's
• 7:36
  lack
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  being.
• 7:38
  However,
• 7:39
  it's
• 7:39
  not
• 7:39
  contrary
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  being.
• 7:41
  You
• 7:41
  know,
• 7:42
  that's
• 7:42
  why
• 7:43
  many
• 7:43
  of
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  thangka,
• 7:44
  they
• 7:45
  have
• 7:46
  yabyam,
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  know,
• 7:47
  the
• 7:48
  embrace
• 7:50
  the
• 7:51
  two
• 7:51
  and
• 7:51
  embrace
• 7:52
  and
• 7:52
  luck.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:53
  one
• 7:54
  of
• 7:54
  them
• 7:55
  Shaka
• 7:56
  sambara
• 7:57
  and
• 7:57
  Vajrayudini
• 7:58
  embracing
• 7:59
  Vajra
• 7:59
  Sambhara
• 8:00
  is
• 8:00
  black
• 8:02
  or
• 8:03
  dark
• 8:04
  blue,
• 8:04
  as
• 8:04
  Darcy
• 8:05
  saying.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:07
  that
• 8:07
  is
• 8:07
  really
• 8:09
  call
• 8:10
  it
• 8:10
  emptiness
• 8:11
  and
• 8:11
  I
• 8:12
  call
• 8:12
  it
• 8:12
  emptiness.
• 8:14
  But
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  emptiness
• 8:15
  here
• 8:15
  is
• 8:16
  not
• 8:16
  like
• 8:17
  empty
• 8:18
  space.
• 8:18
  They
• 8:19
  say
• 8:19
  it
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  lack
• 8:20
  of
• 8:20
  inherent
• 8:20
  existence
• 8:21
  means
• 8:21
  no
• 8:22
  existence.
• 8:23
  Nothing
• 8:24
  has
• 8:24
  inherent
• 8:25
  existence.
• 8:25
  But
• 8:26
  it's
• 8:26
  not
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  dark
• 8:27
  nihilistic
• 8:28
  emptiness
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  maybe
• 8:29
  western
• 8:30
  existential
• 8:31
  philosophy
• 8:32
  or
• 8:32
  psychology.
• 8:33
  Of
• 8:33
  course
• 8:33
  not.
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  mean,
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  don't
• 8:35
  know,
• 8:35
  they
• 8:35
  even
• 8:35
  call
• 8:35
  it
• 8:36
  dark.
• 8:36
  But
• 8:37
  this
• 8:37
  is
• 8:37
  not
• 8:38
  dark,
• 8:38
  it
• 8:39
  is
• 8:39
  black.
• 8:40
  The
• 8:40
  way
• 8:41
  we
• 8:41
  experience
• 8:41
  it
• 8:42
  when
• 8:42
  we
• 8:42
  are
• 8:42
  in
• 8:43
  that
• 8:43
  place,
• 8:43
  we
• 8:44
  see
• 8:44
  that
• 8:44
  it
• 8:45
  is
• 8:45
  not
• 8:46
  that
• 8:46
  it
• 8:46
  doesn't
• 8:47
  have
• 8:47
  light,
• 8:47
  it
• 8:47
  is
• 8:48
  before
• 8:48
  light,
• 8:49
  light
• 8:49
  emerges
• 8:50
  out
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  it.
• 8:50
  It
• 8:51
  is
• 8:51
  like
• 8:52
  light
• 8:52
  before
• 8:53
  it
• 8:53
  manifests.
• 8:54
  The
• 8:54
  Sufis
• 8:55
  talk
• 8:55
  about
• 8:55
  that.
• 8:55
  Actually
• 8:57
  they
• 8:58
  talk
• 8:58
  about
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  black
• 8:58
  light,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  know,
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  black
• 9:01
  light
• 9:01
  is
• 9:01
  the
• 9:02
  source
• 9:02
  of
• 9:02
  all
• 9:02
  light.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:03
  here
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  don't
• 9:04
  call
• 9:04
  it
• 9:05
  black
• 9:05
  light,
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  don't
• 9:06
  call
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  light.
• 9:06
  It's
• 9:06
  empty,
• 9:07
  it's
• 9:07
  nothing
• 9:07
  there.
• 9:08
  You
• 9:08
  know,
• 9:08
  light
• 9:09
  is
• 9:09
  almost
• 9:10
  as
• 9:10
  substance.
• 9:11
  This
• 9:11
  is
• 9:12
  basically
• 9:14
  the,
• 9:15
  not
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  negation
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  substance,
• 9:16
  but
• 9:16
  going
• 9:17
  beyond
• 9:17
  it.
• 9:18
  So
• 9:18
  it
• 9:18
  is
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  place
• 9:19
  where
• 9:20
  we
• 9:20
  experience
• 9:21
  ourselves,
• 9:22
  everything
• 9:23
  else
• 9:24
  as
• 9:25
  immaterial
• 9:27
  as
• 9:29
  so
• 9:30
  light
• 9:31
  that
• 9:32
  has
• 9:32
  no
• 9:32
  substance.
• 9:33
  So
• 9:34
  empty,
• 9:34
  there's
• 9:36
  nothing
• 9:36
  there.
• 9:37
  Most
• 9:37
  people,
• 9:38
  when
• 9:38
  they
• 9:38
  think
• 9:38
  of
• 9:39
  emptiness,
• 9:39
  they
• 9:40
  think
• 9:40
  of
• 9:41
  spacious
• 9:41
  space
• 9:42
  or
• 9:43
  nothingness.
• 9:45
  This
• 9:45
  is
• 9:45
  space
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  nothingness,
• 9:47
  half
• 9:47
  sensation
• 9:48
  of
• 9:48
  space
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  nothingness.
• 9:49
  This
• 9:50
  has
• 9:50
  no
• 9:50
  sensation.
• 9:51
  It
• 9:51
  is
• 9:52
  so
• 9:52
  empty,
• 9:53
  there's
• 9:54
  nothing
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  sense.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:57
  that
• 9:57
  is
• 9:57
  why
• 9:57
  I
• 9:58
  usually
• 9:58
  use
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  word
• 9:59
  cessation,
• 10:00
  which
• 10:00
  is
• 10:01
  word
• 10:01
  that
• 10:01
  Buddha
• 10:02
  used.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:03
  he
• 10:03
  talks
• 10:04
  about
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  different
• 10:05
  stages
• 10:05
  he
• 10:05
  go
• 10:06
  through.
• 10:07
  We
• 10:07
  are
• 10:07
  studying
• 10:08
  Hinduism.
• 10:10
  He
• 10:10
  went
• 10:10
  through
• 10:11
  universal
• 10:11
  consciousness,
• 10:12
  universal
• 10:13
  nothingness
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  all
• 10:14
  of
• 10:14
  that.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  then
• 10:15
  what
• 10:16
  he
• 10:16
  discovered
• 10:17
  new
• 10:18
  was
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  cessation.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:20
  he
• 10:20
  called
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  cessation
• 10:21
  of
• 10:22
  perception
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  sensation
• 10:24
  and
• 10:24
  which
• 10:25
  is
• 10:26
  my
• 10:26
  experience
• 10:27
  correspond
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  that
• 10:28
  exactly.
• 10:29
  And
• 10:29
  of
• 10:30
  course,
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  Theravada
• 10:31
  Buddhism,
• 10:31
  they
• 10:31
  call
• 10:31
  it,
• 10:32
  you
• 10:32
  know,
• 10:33
  entering
• 10:33
  the
• 10:34
  scene
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  return
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  Christ.
• 10:36
  Return
• 10:37
  as
• 10:37
  Christ,
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  mean,
• 10:40
  until
• 10:41
  you
• 10:41
  fight
• 10:41
  there.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:43
  of
• 10:43
  course,
• 10:44
  that
• 10:45
  tradition
• 10:46
  equated
• 10:47
  with
• 10:47
  Nirvana,
• 10:49
  coeurization
• 10:50
  of
• 10:51
  all
• 10:51
  movement.
• 10:52
  So
• 10:52
  it
• 10:52
  is
• 10:53
  really
• 10:54
  unlikely
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  word
• 10:55
  negation,
• 10:56
  it
• 10:57
  is
• 10:58
  beyond
• 10:59
  substance.
• 11:00
  So
• 11:00
  it's
• 11:01
  absence
• 11:02
  is
• 11:03
  beyond
• 11:04
  sound.
• 11:04
  So
• 11:04
  it's
• 11:05
  silence,
• 11:07
  it
• 11:08
  is
• 11:08
  beyond
• 11:08
  movement.
• 11:09
  So
• 11:09
  it's
• 11:10
  stillness.
• 11:12
  No.
• 11:12
  So
• 11:13
  beyond
• 11:13
  anything
• 11:14
  we
• 11:14
  can
• 11:14
  think
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  beyond
• 11:15
  that.
• 11:16
  So
• 11:16
  sound
• 11:17
  like
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  opposite
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  it.
• 11:18
  And
• 11:18
  it
• 11:19
  is
• 11:19
  really
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  counterpart
• 11:21
  that
• 11:21
  make
• 11:22
  all
• 11:23
  those
• 11:23
  things
• 11:23
  possible.
• 11:24
  And
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  is
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  source
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  all
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  them.
• 11:26
  And
• 11:27
  you
• 11:27
  mentioned
• 11:27
  that
• 11:28
  in
• 11:28
  one
• 11:28
  part,
• 11:29
  when
• 11:29
  you're
• 11:29
  experiencing
• 11:29
  from
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  hara
• 11:30
  for
• 11:31
  that
• 11:32
  part
• 11:32
  of
• 11:32
  your
• 11:32
  body
• 11:33
  that
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  martial
• 11:33
  artists
• 11:34
  talk
• 11:34
  about
• 11:34
  so
• 11:34
  much,
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  it
• 11:36
  is
• 11:37
  immensely
• 11:38
  more
• 11:38
  real
• 11:38
  than
• 11:39
  what
• 11:39
  we
• 11:39
  consider
• 11:39
  reality.
• 11:40
  It's
• 11:40
  more
• 11:41
  there
• 11:41
  than
• 11:41
  there,
• 11:42
  if
• 11:42
  that's
• 11:42
  the
• 11:43
  right
• 11:43
  way
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  saying
• 11:43
  it.
• 11:44
  Yeah,
• 11:45
  that's
• 11:45
  one
• 11:45
  way
• 11:46
  of
• 11:46
  experiencing
• 11:46
  the
• 11:47
  absolute.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:47
  there's
• 11:48
  something
• 11:48
  that
• 11:49
  Maharaj
• 11:50
  referred
• 11:50
  to
• 11:51
  several
• 11:51
  times
• 11:51
  in
• 11:52
  his
• 11:52
  talks
• 11:52
  and
• 11:53
  nobody
• 11:53
  seemed
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  get
• 11:54
  it.
• 11:55
  Nobody
• 11:55
  asked
• 11:55
  him,
• 11:55
  why
• 11:56
  are
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  saying
• 11:56
  that?
• 11:57
  And
• 11:57
  he
• 11:57
  says,
• 11:57
  I
• 11:58
  am
• 11:58
  rock
• 11:58
  like.
• 11:59
  He
• 11:59
  said
• 11:59
  it
• 12:00
  rock
• 12:00
  like.
• 12:00
  And
• 12:01
  I
• 12:01
  bring
• 12:01
  it
• 12:01
  in
• 12:01
  one
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  my
• 12:02
  lectures.
• 12:02
  Why
• 12:03
  did
• 12:03
  he
• 12:03
  say
• 12:03
  I'm
• 12:03
  rock
• 12:04
  like?
• 12:04
  Nobody
• 12:05
  seemed
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  pay
• 12:05
  attention
• 12:05
  to
• 12:06
  that.
• 12:06
  They
• 12:06
  always
• 12:07
  pay
• 12:07
  attention
• 12:07
  to
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  fact
• 12:08
  about
• 12:08
  consciousness.
• 12:09
  He
• 12:09
  said,
• 12:09
  I'm
• 12:10
  rock
• 12:10
  like.
• 12:11
  Because
• 12:11
  when
• 12:12
  we
• 12:12
  experienced
• 12:12
  it
• 12:13
  from
• 12:13
  the
• 12:14
  belly
• 12:15
  center,
• 12:15
  it
• 12:16
  feels,
• 12:17
  although
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:18
  insubstantial.
• 12:19
  But
• 12:19
  one
• 12:20
  thing
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  explain
• 12:21
  that
• 12:21
  more
• 12:21
  clearly,
• 12:22
  that
• 12:23
  emptiness
• 12:24
  or
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  absolute
• 12:25
  is
• 12:25
  never.
• 12:26
  There's
• 12:26
  no
• 12:27
  emptiness
• 12:27
  by
• 12:27
  itself.
• 12:28
  Always
• 12:28
  an
• 12:28
  emptiness
• 12:29
  of
• 12:29
  something
• 12:29
  else.
• 12:31
  The
• 12:31
  emptiness
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  a
• 12:32
  penis,
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  emptiness
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  substance,
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  emptiness
• 12:34
  of
• 12:34
  sound,
• 12:34
  emptiness
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  moon.
• 12:36
  So
• 12:37
  it
• 12:37
  is
• 12:37
  the
• 12:38
  other
• 12:38
  side
• 12:38
  of
• 12:38
  everything.
• 12:40
  So
• 12:40
  it's
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  other
• 12:41
  side.
• 12:42
  In
• 12:42
  one
• 12:42
  side
• 12:43
  it's
• 12:43
  empty.
• 12:43
  Nothing
• 12:44
  but
• 12:45
  can
• 12:45
  be
• 12:45
  experienced
• 12:46
  from
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  belly
• 12:47
  center.
• 12:47
  As
• 12:49
  dense,
• 12:49
  as
• 12:50
  immense
• 12:51
  as
• 12:51
  solid,
• 12:52
  more
• 12:52
  solid
• 12:53
  than
• 12:54
  rocks,
• 12:55
  than
• 12:55
  physical
• 12:56
  reality.
• 12:57
  So
• 12:57
  sense
• 12:58
  here
• 12:58
  when
• 12:58
  you
• 12:59
  one
• 12:59
  is
• 12:59
  that
• 12:59
  if
• 13:00
  you
• 13:00
  have
• 13:01
  solid,
• 13:01
  immense,
• 13:03
  I
• 13:03
  mean
• 13:04
  infinitely
• 13:06
  extended,
• 13:07
  infinitely
• 13:08
  vast
• 13:09
  at
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  same
• 13:10
  time.
• 13:10
  And
• 13:11
  that's
• 13:11
  what
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  call
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  crystalline
• 13:13
  or
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  diamond
• 13:14
  level
• 13:15
  of
• 13:15
  the
• 13:16
  absolute.
• 13:18
  Absolute
• 13:19
  is
• 13:19
  always
• 13:19
  a
• 13:19
  relation
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  awareness,
• 13:21
  the
• 13:22
  emptiness
• 13:22
  of
• 13:22
  awareness.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  awareness
• 13:23
  can
• 13:24
  be
• 13:24
  just
• 13:24
  clear
• 13:24
  light
• 13:25
  or
• 13:25
  can
• 13:25
  be
• 13:25
  diamond
• 13:26
  light.
• 13:28
  When
• 13:28
  it
• 13:28
  is
• 13:29
  diamond
• 13:29
  light,
• 13:29
  the
• 13:30
  absolute
• 13:30
  feels
• 13:30
  like
• 13:31
  immensity,
• 13:31
  density,
• 13:32
  solidity.
• 13:33
  But
• 13:34
  as
• 13:34
  Nisargadatta
• 13:35
  Maharaj
• 13:35
  also
• 13:36
  mentioned,
• 13:37
  he
• 13:37
  said,
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  am
• 13:38
  awareness
• 13:39
  that
• 13:39
  is
• 13:40
  not
• 13:40
  aware
• 13:40
  of
• 13:40
  itself.
• 13:41
  And
• 13:42
  people
• 13:42
  don't
• 13:42
  pay
• 13:42
  attention
• 13:43
  to
• 13:43
  that.
• 13:43
  Nobody
• 13:44
  mentioned
• 13:44
  it
• 13:44
  when
• 13:44
  they
• 13:44
  come
• 13:45
  onto
• 13:45
  the
• 13:47
  he's
• 13:47
  saying
• 13:47
  something
• 13:48
  very
• 13:48
  important.
• 13:49
  You
• 13:49
  know,
• 13:50
  when
• 13:50
  he
• 13:50
  said
• 13:50
  awareness,
• 13:51
  not
• 13:51
  aware
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  itself,
• 13:52
  that
• 13:52
  means
• 13:53
  he
• 13:53
  said,
• 13:53
  when
• 13:53
  I
• 13:54
  look
• 13:54
  at
• 13:54
  myself,
• 13:54
  see
• 13:54
  nothing,
• 13:55
  because
• 13:56
  there's
• 13:56
  nothing
• 13:56
  there
• 13:56
  to
• 13:57
  see.
• 13:58
  You
• 13:58
  see,
• 13:58
  when
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  look
• 13:59
  out,
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  see
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  universe.
• 14:01
  He
• 14:01
  goes
• 14:02
  down,
• 14:02
  details.
• 14:03
  And
• 14:04
  that's
• 14:04
  why
• 14:04
  I
• 14:04
  did
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  whole
• 14:05
  lecture
• 14:05
  on
• 14:06
  Nasir
• 14:06
  Gadda
• 14:07
  Bhava
• 14:07
  like
• 14:08
  that.
• 14:08
  Because
• 14:08
  to.
• 14:09
  I
• 14:10
  said
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  neglected
• 14:11
  teachings
• 14:14
  because
• 14:15
  he's
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  Vedanta
• 14:17
  person.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:17
  Vedanta,
• 14:18
  you
• 14:19
  know,
• 14:19
  many
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  them
• 14:20
  don't
• 14:21
  recognize
• 14:21
  cessation.
• 14:23
  No.
• 14:24
  Or
• 14:24
  at
• 14:24
  that
• 14:24
  time,
• 14:26
  he
• 14:26
  was
• 14:26
  being
• 14:27
  it.
• 14:28
  So,
• 14:28
  yes,
• 14:29
  it
• 14:29
  can
• 14:29
  be.
• 14:31
  It
• 14:31
  is
• 14:32
  absolutely
• 14:33
  nothing.
• 14:33
  But
• 14:33
  it
• 14:34
  can
• 14:34
  be
• 14:34
  experienced
• 14:34
  as
• 14:35
  more
• 14:35
  solid
• 14:35
  than
• 14:36
  anything
• 14:36
  else
• 14:37
  because
• 14:38
  it
• 14:38
  is.
• 14:39
  The
• 14:39
  emptiness
• 14:40
  is
• 14:40
  always
• 14:40
  an
• 14:40
  emptiness
• 14:41
  of
• 14:41
  something.
• 14:42
  Can't
• 14:43
  experience
• 14:43
  emptiness
• 14:43
  just
• 14:44
  by
• 14:44
  itself.
• 14:44
  There's
• 14:44
  no
• 14:45
  experience.
• 14:45
  Then
• 14:46
  that's
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  cessation.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  I
• 14:48
  think
• 14:48
  for
• 14:48
  me,
• 14:48
  the
• 14:49
  sense
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  immensity,
• 14:51
  empty
• 14:51
  immensity,
• 14:53
  was
• 14:53
  best
• 14:54
  conveyed
• 14:54
  by
• 14:55
  your
• 14:55
  description
• 14:56
  saying
• 14:56
  that
• 14:56
  when
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  universe
• 14:57
  reappears.
• 15:00
  And
• 15:00
  again,
• 15:00
  I'll
• 15:00
  quote,
• 15:01
  it
• 15:01
  looks
• 15:02
  like
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  tiny
• 15:02
  luminous
• 15:03
  sphere
• 15:04
  floating
• 15:04
  on
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  vast
• 15:05
  silence
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  the
• 15:06
  Absolute.
• 15:08
  Okay.
• 15:08
  The
• 15:08
  universe
• 15:09
  is
• 15:09
  a
• 15:09
  tiny
• 15:09
  sphere.
• 15:10
  That
• 15:10
  puts
• 15:10
  things
• 15:10
  in
• 15:11
  perspective.
• 15:12
  Doesn't
• 15:13
  it,
• 15:13
  though?
• 15:13
  That
• 15:13
  is
• 15:14
  witnessing
• 15:15
  in
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  whole
• 15:15
  universe
• 15:16
  from
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  perspective
• 15:17
  of
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  Absolute.
• 15:19
  That
• 15:19
  was
• 15:19
  actually
• 15:20
  my
• 15:20
  first
• 15:21
  distinct
• 15:21
  experience.
• 15:22
  Matt
• 15:23
  had
• 15:23
  mentioned
• 15:23
  it
• 15:24
  before,
• 15:24
  of
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  Absolute,
• 15:26
  which
• 15:26
  is
• 15:27
  I
• 15:27
  was
• 15:27
  teaching
• 15:28
  about
• 15:28
  awareness,
• 15:28
  about
• 15:29
  pure
• 15:29
  awareness
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  group.
• 15:31
  And
• 15:31
  as
• 15:31
  I'm
• 15:31
  teaching,
• 15:32
  then
• 15:32
  everything
• 15:32
  become
• 15:33
  transparent,
• 15:34
  clear
• 15:34
  and
• 15:34
  limpid.
• 15:35
  Awareness.
• 15:36
  Not
• 15:37
  just
• 15:38
  our
• 15:38
  awareness.
• 15:38
  Everything
• 15:39
  was
• 15:39
  awareness.
• 15:40
  Were
• 15:40
  your
• 15:41
  students
• 15:41
  aware
• 15:41
  that
• 15:41
  something
• 15:42
  was
• 15:42
  happening
• 15:42
  while
• 15:42
  you
• 15:43
  were
• 15:43
  going
• 15:43
  through
• 15:43
  this?
• 15:44
  No,
• 15:45
  I
• 15:45
  don't
• 15:45
  think
• 15:45
  so.
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  didn't
• 15:46
  say
• 15:46
  anything
• 15:46
  about
• 15:47
  it.
• 15:48
  Well,
• 15:48
  you
• 15:49
  know,
• 15:49
  I
• 15:49
  mean,
• 15:49
  there
• 15:49
  are.
• 15:49
  Whenever
• 15:50
  they
• 15:51
  knew
• 15:51
  about
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  awareness.
• 15:52
  We're
• 15:52
  discussing
• 15:53
  it.
• 15:53
  That's
• 15:53
  the
• 15:54
  topic.
• 15:55
  And
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  saw
• 15:56
  myself
• 15:56
  receding
• 15:57
  from
• 15:57
  the
• 15:58
  room,
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  know,
• 16:00
  receding
• 16:01
  back
• 16:01
  in
• 16:01
  this
• 16:01
  whole
• 16:02
  room.
• 16:02
  And
• 16:02
  then
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  was
• 16:03
  the
• 16:03
  whole
• 16:03
  house
• 16:03
  receding,
• 16:04
  always.
• 16:05
  The
• 16:05
  whole
• 16:05
  Earth
• 16:06
  receipt
• 16:06
  kept
• 16:07
  receding
• 16:07
  and
• 16:07
  receding
• 16:08
  while
• 16:08
  I'm
• 16:08
  still
• 16:09
  talking
• 16:09
  with
• 16:09
  them.
• 16:11
  I
• 16:12
  have
• 16:12
  both
• 16:12
  sides.
• 16:13
  I'm
• 16:13
  in
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  room,
• 16:14
  but
• 16:14
  I'm
• 16:14
  outside.
• 16:15
  The
• 16:15
  outside
• 16:16
  kept
• 16:16
  receding,
• 16:17
  receding
• 16:17
  until
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  was
• 16:18
  outside
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  universe.
• 16:19
  And
• 16:20
  so
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  whole
• 16:20
  universe
• 16:21
  has
• 16:21
  this
• 16:22
  shimmering
• 16:22
  light
• 16:23
  in
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  surface
• 16:24
  of
• 16:24
  this
• 16:25
  blackness.
• 16:27
  And
• 16:27
  then
• 16:27
  at
• 16:27
  some
• 16:27
  point,
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  kept
• 16:28
  receding.
• 16:29
  The
• 16:29
  whole
• 16:29
  universe
• 16:30
  became
• 16:30
  a
• 16:30
  bubble.
• 16:31
  Bubble,
• 16:32
  small
• 16:32
  bubble.
• 16:32
  So
• 16:33
  from
• 16:33
  that,
• 16:33
  Absolute
• 16:34
  shows
• 16:34
  itself
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  be
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  vastness
• 16:36
  beyond
• 16:37
  any
• 16:37
  vastness.
• 16:38
  And
• 16:38
  you
• 16:39
  kept.
• 16:39
  You
• 16:40
  kept
• 16:40
  lecturing
• 16:40
  through
• 16:41
  all
• 16:41
  this?
• 16:42
  Yeah,
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  talking
• 16:43
  about
• 16:43
  doing
• 16:43
  that.
• 16:44
  Yeah.
• 16:44
  No,
• 16:45
  that's.
• 16:45
  That's
• 16:46
  focus,
• 16:47
  Hameed.
• 16:47
  I
• 16:47
  wanted
• 16:47
  to
• 16:48
  bring
• 16:48
  up
• 16:48
  something
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  think
• 16:48
  is
• 16:49
  very
• 16:49
  important.
• 16:49
  We
• 16:50
  were
• 16:50
  studying
• 16:50
  a
• 16:50
  document.
• 16:51
  We're
• 16:51
  comparing
• 16:51
  your
• 16:51
  teachings
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  all
• 16:52
  these
• 16:52
  great
• 16:52
  traditions
• 16:53
  and
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  won't
• 16:54
  enumerate
• 16:55
  them,
• 16:55
  but
• 16:55
  just
• 16:55
  about
• 16:55
  everybody
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  include
• 16:56
  the
• 16:57
  Christian
• 16:57
  apophatic
• 16:59
  nature
• 17:00
  and.
• 17:00
  And
• 17:00
  they're
• 17:00
  all
• 17:01
  everybody.
• 17:01
  And
• 17:01
  this,
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  know,
• 17:02
  centuries
• 17:03
  apart,
• 17:03
  thousand
• 17:03
  years
• 17:04
  apart,
• 17:04
  they're
• 17:05
  all
• 17:05
  describing
• 17:05
  the
• 17:06
  same
• 17:06
  thing.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:07
  one
• 17:07
  of
• 17:07
  the
• 17:08
  things
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  said
• 17:08
  in
• 17:10
  I
• 17:10
  believe
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  said
• 17:11
  this,
• 17:11
  that
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  experience
• 17:12
  of
• 17:13
  this
• 17:13
  is
• 17:13
  beyond
• 17:14
  experience.
• 17:14
  But
• 17:14
  the
• 17:15
  apprehension
• 17:15
  of
• 17:15
  this
• 17:16
  beyond
• 17:16
  that
• 17:16
  too
• 17:17
  for
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  human
• 17:17
  being
• 17:18
  is
• 17:19
  not
• 17:19
  the
• 17:19
  final
• 17:19
  destination.
• 17:21
  It's
• 17:22
  a
• 17:22
  gateway.
• 17:23
  The
• 17:23
  cessation
• 17:24
  is
• 17:24
  a
• 17:24
  gateway.
• 17:26
  And
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  absolute
• 17:27
  is
• 17:27
  seen
• 17:27
  by
• 17:27
  many
• 17:28
  tradition
• 17:28
  as
• 17:29
  the
• 17:29
  destination.
• 17:31
  You
• 17:31
  see.
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  mean
• 17:32
  it
• 17:32
  is
• 17:33
  what
• 17:33
  St.
• 17:33
  John
• 17:33
  the
• 17:34
  Cross
• 17:34
  talk
• 17:34
  about
• 17:34
  the
• 17:35
  black
• 17:35
  light.
• 17:35
  He
• 17:36
  talks
• 17:36
  about
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  black
• 17:37
  light
• 17:37
  and
• 17:38
  by
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  end
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  his
• 17:39
  book
• 17:39
  talk
• 17:39
  about
• 17:39
  mystical
• 17:40
  poverty
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  his
• 17:42
  famous
• 17:42
  book
• 17:44
  he
• 17:44
  discusses.
• 17:45
  He
• 17:45
  talks
• 17:45
  about
• 17:45
  black
• 17:46
  light
• 17:46
  actually
• 17:47
  and
• 17:48
  as
• 17:48
  everything
• 17:48
  is
• 17:49
  purified.
• 17:49
  And
• 17:50
  so
• 17:50
  yeah,
• 17:51
  the
• 17:51
  Christian
• 17:51
  tradition
• 17:52
  and
• 17:52
  many
• 17:52
  of
• 17:53
  them
• 17:53
  discuss
• 17:53
  it
• 17:53
  all
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  Sufi
• 17:55
  they
• 17:55
  don't
• 17:55
  always
• 17:56
  talk
• 17:56
  about
• 17:56
  blackness
• 17:57
  like
• 17:57
  St.
• 17:58
  John
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  Cross
• 17:58
  talk
• 17:58
  of
• 17:59
  blackness.
• 17:59
  And
• 18:01
  Sufis
• 18:01
  like
• 18:01
  Lahiji
• 18:02
  talks
• 18:02
  about
• 18:03
  black
• 18:03
  light.
• 18:04
  The
• 18:04
  Buddhas
• 18:05
  don't
• 18:05
  refer
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  it
• 18:06
  as
• 18:06
  black.
• 18:07
  They
• 18:07
  talk
• 18:07
  about
• 18:08
  emptiness.
• 18:08
  But
• 18:09
  they
• 18:09
  all
• 18:10
  see
• 18:11
  it
• 18:11
  as
• 18:11
  a
• 18:11
  spacious
• 18:12
  antennas,
• 18:14
  as
• 18:14
  a
• 18:14
  prison
• 18:15
  that
• 18:16
  annihilates
• 18:17
  everything
• 18:18
  else.
• 18:19
  Annihilate
• 18:19
  raises
• 18:21
  any
• 18:22
  sense.
• 18:22
  I
• 18:23
  mean
• 18:23
  it's
• 18:23
  important
• 18:24
  for
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  annihilation
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  ego
• 18:26
  and
• 18:26
  self
• 18:26
  and
• 18:27
  attachment
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  all
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  that.
• 18:30
  Everything
• 18:30
  is
• 18:30
  gone.
• 18:31
  But
• 18:31
  it
• 18:31
  is
• 18:32
  really
• 18:33
  so
• 18:33
  Sufis
• 18:34
  connected
• 18:34
  with
• 18:34
  annihilation.
• 18:37
  Now
• 18:37
  one
• 18:38
  thing
• 18:38
  here
• 18:38
  digression
• 18:39
  is
• 18:40
  that
• 18:40
  cessation
• 18:41
  and
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  thing
• 18:42
  that
• 18:42
  Ajit
• 18:43
  did
• 18:43
  with
• 18:43
  Chatgpt
• 18:46
  cessation
• 18:47
  with
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  absolute.
• 18:48
  Cessation
• 18:49
  is
• 18:49
  not
• 18:49
  always
• 18:49
  in
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  Absolute.
• 18:51
  The
• 18:51
  self
• 18:51
  can
• 18:52
  cease
• 18:52
  without
• 18:53
  one.
• 18:53
  Experience
• 18:55
  can
• 18:55
  just
• 18:58
  by
• 18:59
  initial
• 18:59
  experience
• 19:00
  of
• 19:00
  cessation,
• 19:01
  identity,
• 19:01
  absolute,
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  cessation.
• 19:04
  The
• 19:05
  consciousness
• 19:05
  is
• 19:05
  sensational
• 19:06
  gone.
• 19:06
  There's
• 19:07
  no
• 19:08
  content
• 19:08
  or
• 19:08
  experience,
• 19:09
  nothing.
• 19:11
  And
• 19:11
  then
• 19:11
  when
• 19:12
  awareness
• 19:12
  comes
• 19:13
  out,
• 19:13
  there's
• 19:13
  awareness
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  whole
• 19:14
  world.
• 19:15
  It
• 19:15
  wasn't
• 19:15
  aware
• 19:16
  of
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  absolute.
• 19:16
  It
• 19:17
  was
• 19:17
  later
• 19:17
  on
• 19:19
  that
• 19:19
  the
• 19:20
  cessation
• 19:20
  took
• 19:21
  me
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  recognize
• 19:22
  the
• 19:22
  Absolute.
• 19:22
  The
• 19:23
  absolute
• 19:23
  might
• 19:23
  have
• 19:24
  been
• 19:24
  there
• 19:24
  all
• 19:24
  this
• 19:24
  time.
• 19:25
  I
• 19:25
  just
• 19:25
  didn't
• 19:26
  know
• 19:26
  about
• 19:26
  it,
• 19:26
  wasn't
• 19:26
  aware
• 19:27
  of.
• 19:27
  So
• 19:28
  sensation
• 19:29
  usually
• 19:29
  or
• 19:30
  Fana
• 19:30
  and
• 19:30
  Sukh
• 19:31
  is
• 19:31
  like
• 19:31
  receding
• 19:32
  love,
• 19:32
  the
• 19:33
  ego
• 19:33
  or
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  self
• 19:34
  dissolving
• 19:35
  love
• 19:35
  all
• 19:36
  gone
• 19:36
  except
• 19:37
  love
• 19:37
  remains.
• 19:39
  The
• 19:39
  divine
• 19:40
  presence
• 19:40
  remains.
• 19:41
  But
• 19:41
  the
• 19:41
  deeper
• 19:42
  stages
• 19:42
  of
• 19:43
  sensation
• 19:43
  takes
• 19:44
  you
• 19:44
  when
• 19:44
  you
• 19:44
  really
• 19:46
  feel
• 19:46
  sensation
• 19:48
  in
• 19:48
  some
• 19:49
  intimate
• 19:49
  way
• 19:50
  takes
• 19:50
  it
• 19:51
  absolutely.
• 19:51
  For
• 19:51
  me,
• 19:52
  that
• 19:52
  experience
• 19:52
  was
• 19:53
  specifically
• 19:54
  in
• 19:54
  meditation
• 19:56
  when
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  was
• 19:56
  experiencing
• 19:57
  consciousness.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:59
  as
• 19:59
  consciousness
• 20:00
  was
• 20:00
  thinning
• 20:00
  and
• 20:01
  thinning
• 20:01
  and
• 20:01
  thinning
• 20:03
  and
• 20:04
  then
• 20:04
  staying
• 20:05
  all
• 20:05
  side
• 20:06
  monitor
• 20:06
  thinning
• 20:06
  and
• 20:06
  thinning
• 20:07
  until
• 20:07
  After
• 20:07
  a
• 20:08
  while,
• 20:08
  it
• 20:08
  became
• 20:08
  like
• 20:08
  islands
• 20:09
  of
• 20:09
  consciousness.
• 20:10
  There
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  nothing
• 20:11
  in
• 20:11
  between
• 20:11
  them.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  little
• 20:13
  island
• 20:13
  became
• 20:14
  all
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  small
• 20:14
  atoms
• 20:15
  of
• 20:15
  conscious.
• 20:16
  Conscious
• 20:16
  atoms
• 20:17
  with
• 20:17
  nothing.
• 20:18
  Absolutely.
• 20:20
  And
• 20:21
  those
• 20:21
  conscious
• 20:22
  atom,
• 20:22
  quantum
• 20:22
  iron.
• 20:23
  They
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  touching
• 20:24
  the
• 20:25
  emptiness,
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  blackness.
• 20:27
  But
• 20:27
  as
• 20:27
  they
• 20:28
  touch
• 20:28
  it,
• 20:28
  they
• 20:28
  dissolve
• 20:29
  awareness.
• 20:30
  Until.
• 20:32
  Completely
• 20:34
  dissolve.
• 20:34
  And
• 20:35
  there
• 20:35
  was
• 20:35
  no
• 20:36
  consciousness.
• 20:37
  And
• 20:37
  as
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  know,
• 20:39
  as
• 20:40
  that
• 20:40
  article
• 20:41
  rather
• 20:41
  says.
• 20:42
  It
• 20:42
  is
• 20:42
  not
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  end
• 20:43
  for
• 20:44
  any
• 20:44
  teaching.
• 20:45
  It
• 20:46
  is
• 20:46
  part
• 20:46
  of
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  process
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  freedom
• 20:49
  from
• 20:49
  everything.
• 20:51
  But
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  Absolute
• 20:52
  is
• 20:52
  not
• 20:52
  just
• 20:52
  cessation.
• 20:53
  Cessation,
• 20:53
  the
• 20:54
  entry
• 20:54
  into
• 20:54
  it.
• 20:55
  The
• 20:55
  Absolute
• 20:55
  is
• 20:56
  much
• 20:56
  faster.
• 20:56
  It's
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  inner
• 20:57
  nature
• 20:58
  of
• 20:59
  all
• 20:59
  manifestation.
• 21:00
  So,
• 21:00
  Hameed,
• 21:02
  what
• 21:02
  happens
• 21:02
  when
• 21:03
  a
• 21:03
  human
• 21:03
  being
• 21:04
  has
• 21:04
  this
• 21:05
  experience?
• 21:05
  They
• 21:05
  go
• 21:06
  through
• 21:06
  this
• 21:06
  cessation,
• 21:07
  annihilation.
• 21:09
  Into
• 21:09
  this
• 21:09
  luminous
• 21:10
  darkness
• 21:11
  that
• 21:12
  many
• 21:12
  ways
• 21:12
  you've
• 21:13
  described
• 21:13
  it.
• 21:14
  When
• 21:15
  they
• 21:15
  come
• 21:15
  back
• 21:15
  into
• 21:16
  the
• 21:16
  individual
• 21:17
  pearl
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  great
• 21:18
  price,
• 21:18
  or
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  individual
• 21:19
  body,
• 21:20
  what
• 21:20
  changes?
• 21:21
  What
• 21:21
  are
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  effects?
• 21:22
  Jesus
• 21:22
  said,
• 21:22
  wherefore,
• 21:22
  by
• 21:23
  their
• 21:23
  fruits
• 21:23
  you
• 21:23
  shall
• 21:24
  know
• 21:24
  them.
• 21:24
  In
• 21:24
  Matthew
• 21:25
  7:20.
• 21:26
  That
• 21:26
  you
• 21:26
  can
• 21:26
  tell
• 21:27
  something
• 21:27
  is
• 21:28
  real
• 21:28
  by
• 21:29
  what
• 21:29
  it
• 21:29
  turns
• 21:30
  into
• 21:30
  or
• 21:30
  what
• 21:30
  it
• 21:30
  manifests.
• 21:31
  What.
• 21:31
  What
• 21:31
  is.
• 21:32
  What's
• 21:32
  it
• 21:32
  like
• 21:33
  for
• 21:33
  a
• 21:33
  person
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  have
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  and
• 21:34
  to
• 21:34
  come
• 21:35
  back
• 21:35
  into
• 21:36
  manifestation?
• 21:37
  Well,
• 21:38
  as
• 21:39
  one
• 21:39
  wakes
• 21:40
  up
• 21:40
  from
• 21:40
  it,
• 21:42
  consciousness
• 21:42
  returns
• 21:43
  with
• 21:44
  a
• 21:44
  soul
• 21:44
  or
• 21:44
  something
• 21:45
  else.
• 21:46
  It
• 21:46
  is
• 21:46
  clenched.
• 21:48
  It's
• 21:49
  like
• 21:49
  it
• 21:49
  got
• 21:51
  dipped
• 21:52
  into
• 21:53
  the
• 21:54
  annihilating
• 21:55
  nature
• 21:56
  of
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  Divine.
• 21:57
  And
• 21:58
  cleanse
• 21:58
  of
• 21:59
  everything.
• 22:00
  So
• 22:00
  it
• 22:00
  comes
• 22:00
  out
• 22:00
  clean,
• 22:01
  clear,
• 22:02
  cleanse.
• 22:03
  And
• 22:03
  all.
• 22:04
  Everything,
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  course,
• 22:06
  impurities.
• 22:08
  So
• 22:09
  if
• 22:09
  one
• 22:10
  abides
• 22:11
  in
• 22:11
  there,
• 22:12
  that's
• 22:13
  not
• 22:13
  just
• 22:14
  as
• 22:14
  an
• 22:14
  experience.
• 22:15
  It
• 22:15
  becomes
• 22:15
  more
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  realization,
• 22:17
  continuous,
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  course.
• 22:18
  It
• 22:19
  cleanses
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  soul
• 22:20
  in
• 22:20
  a
• 22:20
  complete
• 22:20
  way.
• 22:21
  And
• 22:21
  then
• 22:22
  we.
• 22:23
  Our
• 22:23
  action
• 22:24
  embodies
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  virtues.
• 22:25
  Become
• 22:26
  wiser,
• 22:26
  more
• 22:27
  compassionate,
• 22:27
  more
• 22:27
  loving,
• 22:28
  more
• 22:28
  peace.
• 22:29
  Remember,
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  virtues
• 22:31
  are
• 22:32
  equanimity,
• 22:34
  humility,
• 22:36
  fearlessness,
• 22:37
  or
• 22:37
  courage.
• 22:38
  There
• 22:39
  is
• 22:39
  an
• 22:39
  interesting
• 22:39
  question
• 22:40
  here,
• 22:40
  Hameed.
• 22:41
  Which
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  think
• 22:42
  maybe
• 22:42
  you're
• 22:42
  getting
• 22:42
  at,
• 22:43
  John.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:43
  that
• 22:43
  is
• 22:44
  that
• 22:44
  you
• 22:44
  talk
• 22:44
  of.
• 22:45
  And
• 22:45
  as
• 22:45
  I
• 22:45
  understand,
• 22:46
  a
• 22:47
  number
• 22:47
  of
• 22:47
  traditions
• 22:48
  speak
• 22:48
  of
• 22:49
  the.
• 22:49
  That
• 22:50
  being
• 22:50
  immersed
• 22:51
  in
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  Absolute
• 22:52
  is
• 22:52
  exactly
• 22:53
  as
• 22:53
  you
• 22:53
  said.
• 22:53
  A
• 22:54
  profound
• 22:54
  cleansing
• 22:55
  experience.
• 22:56
  Purification.
• 22:57
  But
• 22:57
  you
• 22:58
  seem
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  be
• 22:58
  saying
• 22:58
  something
• 22:59
  more.
• 22:59
  You're
• 22:59
  suggesting
• 23:00
  that
• 23:01
  it's
• 23:01
  not
• 23:01
  only
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  purification
• 23:03
  of
• 23:03
  problematic
• 23:04
  elements
• 23:05
  of
• 23:06
  conditioning
• 23:06
  and
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  psyche
• 23:07
  and
• 23:07
  the
• 23:08
  soul.
• 23:09
  But
• 23:09
  rather
• 23:10
  it
• 23:10
  also
• 23:10
  leads
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  flowering
• 23:12
  of
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  positive
• 23:12
  qualities
• 23:13
  or
• 23:13
  virtues.
• 23:14
  Is
• 23:14
  that
• 23:14
  right?
• 23:15
  Yes.
• 23:17
  And
• 23:17
  then
• 23:18
  usually
• 23:18
  coming
• 23:19
  out
• 23:19
  of
• 23:19
  that.
• 23:19
  The
• 23:20
  whole
• 23:20
  universe
• 23:20
  is
• 23:21
  glittering,
• 23:23
  beautiful.
• 23:24
  You
• 23:25
  know,
• 23:25
  radiant.
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  mean,
• 23:27
  the
• 23:28
  Absolute
• 23:28
  is.
• 23:29
  It
• 23:30
  brings
• 23:30
  in
• 23:31
  expression,
• 23:32
  majesty
• 23:33
  and
• 23:33
  beauty.
• 23:35
  Absolute
• 23:35
  itself
• 23:36
  is
• 23:37
  majesty.
• 23:37
  And
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  universe
• 23:38
  that
• 23:39
  emerges
• 23:39
  is
• 23:40
  beauty.
• 23:41
  That's
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  Sufi
• 23:42
  expression,
• 23:42
  Majesty,
• 23:43
  beauty.
• 23:43
  So
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  universe
• 23:44
  is
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  adornment
• 23:45
  of
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  Absolute.
• 23:46
  The
• 23:47
  universe
• 23:47
  is.
• 23:48
  I
• 23:49
  remember
• 23:49
  experiencing
• 23:50
  it
• 23:51
  with
• 23:51
  one
• 23:51
  of
• 23:51
  the
• 23:52
  Zogchen
• 23:52
  masters,
• 23:54
  one
• 23:55
  of
• 23:55
  the
• 23:55
  leaders
• 23:56
  of
• 23:56
  the
• 23:57
  Nagma
• 23:58
  School,
• 23:58
  who
• 23:58
  was
• 23:59
  here
• 23:59
  in
• 24:00
  California
• 24:00
  one
• 24:00
  time.
• 24:01
  And
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  went
• 24:01
  to
• 24:02
  at
• 24:02
  his
• 24:02
  weekend.
• 24:02
  He
• 24:03
  was
• 24:03
  doing
• 24:03
  the
• 24:04
  empowerments
• 24:05
  with
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  Nanyanas.
• 24:07
  He
• 24:08
  went
• 24:08
  through
• 24:08
  all
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  Nanyana.
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  was
• 24:09
  going
• 24:10
  with
• 24:10
  him
• 24:10
  until
• 24:10
  he
• 24:11
  got
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  the
• 24:12
  last
• 24:12
  one.
• 24:12
  He
• 24:12
  called
• 24:13
  them
• 24:13
  the
• 24:13
  Mahaati.
• 24:15
  And
• 24:15
  everything
• 24:15
  became
• 24:16
  black
• 24:17
  and
• 24:17
  everything
• 24:18
  in
• 24:18
  the
• 24:18
  whole.
• 24:18
  All
• 24:19
  the
• 24:19
  walls
• 24:19
  became
• 24:20
  jewels,
• 24:21
  glittering
• 24:22
  jewels.
• 24:23
  You're
• 24:24
  reminding
• 24:24
  me
• 24:24
  of
• 24:24
  the.
• 24:25
  Since
• 24:25
  you
• 24:25
  bring
• 24:25
  in
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  Tibetan
• 24:26
  Buddhist
• 24:27
  as
• 24:27
  evoking
• 24:28
  this,
• 24:28
  you're
• 24:28
  reminding
• 24:29
  me
• 24:29
  of
• 24:29
  the
• 24:30
  definition
• 24:30
  of
• 24:31
  enlightenment
• 24:31
  in
• 24:32
  Tibetan
• 24:32
  Buddhism.
• 24:33
  Sangky
• 24:34
  with
• 24:34
  song
• 24:35
  meaning
• 24:35
  purification
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  gye
• 24:38
  being
• 24:38
  the
• 24:39
  flowering
• 24:39
  of
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  virtues
• 24:41
  which.
• 24:41
  Exactly
• 24:42
  as
• 24:42
  you're
• 24:42
  describing.
• 24:43
  Yeah.
• 24:44
  I
• 24:44
  mean,
• 24:44
  if
• 24:44
  there's
• 24:45
  no
• 24:45
  flowering,
• 24:46
  there's
• 24:46
  no
• 24:46
  true
• 24:47
  realization.
• 24:48
  I
• 24:48
  mean,
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  spiritual
• 24:49
  path
• 24:50
  is
• 24:50
  to
• 24:50
  be
• 24:51
  true
• 24:51
  human
• 24:52
  being
• 24:53
  expressing
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  spiritual
• 24:55
  quality,
• 24:55
  that
• 24:57
  potential
• 24:57
  human
• 24:58
  being
• 24:58
  of
• 24:58
  heart,
• 24:59
  mind
• 24:59
  and
• 25:00
  everything
• 25:00
  and
• 25:00
  functioning.
• 25:02
  So
• 25:02
  we're
• 25:02
  both
• 25:03
  generous
• 25:03
  and
• 25:04
  selfless
• 25:04
  and,
• 25:05
  you
• 25:06
  know,
• 25:06
  and
• 25:06
  kind
• 25:07
  and,
• 25:08
  you
• 25:08
  know,
• 25:08
  and
• 25:09
  we
• 25:09
  could
• 25:09
  do
• 25:09
  it
• 25:10
  in
• 25:10
  our
• 25:10
  teaching
• 25:11
  or
• 25:11
  in
• 25:12
  just
• 25:13
  living
• 25:13
  our
• 25:13
  life.
• 25:14
  We
• 25:14
  live
• 25:14
  like
• 25:15
  that.
• 25:15
  And
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  life
• 25:16
  of
• 25:17
  authenticity
• 25:17
  and
• 25:18
  spontaneity,
• 25:20
  naturalness.
• 25:21
  That's
• 25:21
  incredibly
• 25:22
  inspiring,
• 25:23
  hopeful
• 25:24
  wisdom.
• 25:25
  When
• 25:25
  you
• 25:25
  realize
• 25:26
  that
• 25:26
  that
• 25:26
  our
• 25:27
  deepest
• 25:27
  essence,
• 25:28
  when
• 25:28
  we
• 25:28
  experience
• 25:29
  this
• 25:30
  absolute,
• 25:31
  the
• 25:32
  virtues
• 25:32
  that
• 25:32
  come
• 25:33
  out
• 25:33
  of
• 25:33
  it,
• 25:33
  when
• 25:33
  we
• 25:33
  come
• 25:34
  back,
• 25:35
  it's
• 25:35
  all
• 25:35
  good.
• 25:36
  You
• 25:36
  know,
• 25:36
  we
• 25:37
  don't
• 25:37
  come
• 25:37
  back
• 25:37
  as
• 25:37
  a
• 25:38
  dictator.
• 25:38
  We
• 25:38
  don't
• 25:38
  come
• 25:39
  back
• 25:39
  as
• 25:39
  a
• 25:39
  sociopath.
• 25:40
  We
• 25:40
  don't
• 25:40
  come
• 25:40
  back
• 25:41
  as
• 25:41
  a
• 25:41
  selfish
• 25:41
  person.
• 25:42
  We
• 25:42
  are
• 25:43
  a
• 25:43
  reborn
• 25:44
  person
• 25:44
  with
• 25:44
  absolute
• 25:45
  virtues.
• 25:46
  You
• 25:46
  might
• 25:46
  say,
• 25:47
  yeah,
• 25:47
  of
• 25:48
  course.
• 25:48
  But
• 25:48
  that
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  all
• 25:49
  the
• 25:50
  spiritual
• 25:50
  teachings
• 25:51
  saying
• 25:51
  that
• 25:52
  you
• 25:52
  don't
• 25:52
  even
• 25:52
  have
• 25:52
  to
• 25:53
  go
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  Absolute
• 25:53
  to
• 25:54
  have
• 25:55
  some
• 25:55
  purpose.
• 25:56
  We
• 25:57
  try.
• 25:58
  Well,
• 25:59
  that's
• 25:59
  good
• 25:59
  news.
• 26:01
  The
• 26:01
  whole
• 26:01
  endeavor
• 26:02
  of
• 26:03
  spiritual,
• 26:04
  you
• 26:04
  know,
• 26:05
  path
• 26:06
  has
• 26:06
  two
• 26:06
  sides
• 26:07
  of
• 26:07
  it.
• 26:07
  Knowing
• 26:08
  what
• 26:08
  you
• 26:08
  are
• 26:10
  and
• 26:10
  living
• 26:10
  it,
• 26:11
  you
• 26:11
  know,
• 26:11
  living
• 26:12
  it
• 26:12
  mean
• 26:12
  living
• 26:13
  like
• 26:13
  a
• 26:13
  true
• 26:14
  human
• 26:14
  being
• 26:15
  with
• 26:15
  spirit
• 26:16
  and
• 26:16
  heart.
• 26:16
  And
• 26:17
  you
• 26:17
  can't
• 26:18
  be,
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  know,
• 26:21
  tyrant
• 26:21
  or
• 26:21
  anything
• 26:22
  from
• 26:22
  that
• 26:22
  place.
• 26:22
  How
• 26:23
  can
• 26:23
  you?
• 26:23
  Everybody
• 26:24
  is
• 26:24
  like
• 26:25
  you.
• 26:25
  Everybody
• 26:26
  is
• 26:26
  precious
• 26:26
  like
• 26:27
  you.
• 26:27
  Everybody
• 26:27
  embodies
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  absolute.
• 26:29
  You
• 26:29
  see
• 26:29
  it.
• 26:30
  Everybody
• 26:30
  is
• 26:31
  a
• 26:31
  glittering
• 26:31
  light.
• 26:32
  They
• 26:32
  might
• 26:33
  not
• 26:33
  know
• 26:33
  it,
• 26:34
  you
• 26:34
  know,
• 26:34
  and
• 26:35
  most
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  time
• 26:35
  they
• 26:36
  don't
• 26:36
  know.
• 26:37
  They're
• 26:37
  not
• 26:37
  aware
• 26:38
  of
• 26:38
  it.
• 26:38
  But
• 26:38
  it
• 26:38
  is
• 26:39
  really
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  deeper
• 26:40
  nature
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  everybody.
• 26:42
  But,
• 26:43
  you
• 26:43
  know,
• 26:43
  whether
• 26:44
  you're
• 26:44
  a
• 26:44
  tyrant
• 26:45
  or
• 26:45
  aggressive
• 26:46
  or
• 26:46
  angry
• 26:46
  or
• 26:48
  scared,
• 26:48
  whatever,
• 26:49
  all
• 26:49
  this
• 26:50
  is
• 26:50
  because
• 26:50
  we
• 26:50
  don't
• 26:51
  know
• 26:51
  what
• 26:51
  we
• 26:51
  are.
• 26:52
  So
• 26:53
  that's
• 26:53
  why
• 26:53
  when
• 26:53
  we
• 26:54
  see
• 26:54
  somebody
• 26:54
  being
• 26:55
  mad
• 26:55
  or
• 26:56
  tyrant
• 26:56
  or
• 26:57
  we
• 26:57
  know
• 26:57
  they're
• 26:58
  suffering,
• 26:59
  they're
• 26:59
  suffering
• 26:59
  because
• 27:00
  they're
• 27:00
  disconnected
• 27:01
  from
• 27:01
  their
• 27:02
  nature.
• 27:02
  Disconnect
• 27:03
  from
• 27:03
  nature,
• 27:03
  the
• 27:04
  tremendous
• 27:04
  suffering,
• 27:05
  when
• 27:05
  you
• 27:05
  really
• 27:05
  get
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  experience
• 27:06
  it,
• 27:08
  tremendous
• 27:08
  pain,
• 27:09
  tremendous
• 27:10
  poverty.
• 27:11
  And
• 27:12
  also
• 27:12
  that's
• 27:12
  why
• 27:13
  moving
• 27:14
  towards
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  cessation,
• 27:15
  we
• 27:16
  go
• 27:16
  through
• 27:16
  a
• 27:16
  lot
• 27:16
  of
• 27:16
  fear.
• 27:18
  People
• 27:18
  go
• 27:18
  through
• 27:18
  a
• 27:19
  lot
• 27:19
  of
• 27:19
  terror
• 27:19
  and
• 27:19
  fear
• 27:20
  because
• 27:20
  they
• 27:21
  sense
• 27:21
  that,
• 27:21
  oh,
• 27:22
  I'm
• 27:22
  going
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  die.
• 27:23
  That's
• 27:23
  usually
• 27:24
  movements
• 27:24
  of
• 27:24
  cessation.
• 27:25
  Most
• 27:25
  people
• 27:26
  think
• 27:26
  of
• 27:26
  it,
• 27:26
  it's
• 27:26
  going
• 27:26
  to
• 27:27
  be
• 27:27
  physical
• 27:27
  death,
• 27:28
  I'm
• 27:29
  going
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  die,
• 27:29
  and
• 27:30
  that's
• 27:30
  it
• 27:30
  for
• 27:30
  me.
• 27:31
  And
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  course,
• 27:32
  we
• 27:32
  take
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  jump.
• 27:34
  We
• 27:34
  have
• 27:34
  enough
• 27:34
  trust
• 27:35
  to
• 27:36
  trust
• 27:36
  the
• 27:37
  spiritual
• 27:38
  journey
• 27:38
  that
• 27:39
  let
• 27:39
  it
• 27:39
  happen.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:41
  then
• 27:42
  we
• 27:42
  don't
• 27:42
  know
• 27:42
  you're
• 27:43
  going
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  come
• 27:43
  back
• 27:43
  or
• 27:43
  not.
• 27:44
  You
• 27:44
  really
• 27:45
  surrender.
• 27:47
  It
• 27:47
  feels
• 27:48
  like
• 27:48
  that's
• 27:48
  one
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  characteristics
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  major
• 27:50
  transitions
• 27:51
  or
• 27:51
  leaps
• 27:52
  on
• 27:52
  the
• 27:52
  spiritual
• 27:53
  path,
• 27:53
  that
• 27:53
  before
• 27:54
  you
• 27:54
  take
• 27:54
  it,
• 27:55
  it
• 27:55
  looks
• 27:55
  like
• 27:55
  it's
• 27:56
  going
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  be
• 27:56
  a
• 27:56
  loss.
• 27:57
  And
• 27:58
  only
• 27:58
  afterwards
• 27:59
  do
• 27:59
  you
• 27:59
  realize
• 28:00
  that
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  only
• 28:01
  loss
• 28:02
  was
• 28:02
  of
• 28:03
  limiting
• 28:03
  beliefs
• 28:04
  and
• 28:05
  impurities.
• 28:05
  One
• 28:06
  kind
• 28:06
  or
• 28:06
  another.
• 28:07
  Yeah,
• 28:07
  on
• 28:07
  the
• 28:08
  stages
• 28:08
  are
• 28:08
  like
• 28:08
  that
• 28:09
  at
• 28:09
  peace
• 28:09
  is
• 28:09
  going
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  be
• 28:10
  a
• 28:10
  loss.
• 28:10
  To
• 28:10
  go
• 28:10
  to
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  next
• 28:11
  stage
• 28:11
  feels
• 28:12
  like
• 28:12
  a
• 28:12
  loss.
• 28:14
  Feels
• 28:14
  like
• 28:14
  a
• 28:14
  loss.
• 28:15
  And
• 28:15
  some
• 28:15
  of
• 28:15
  us
• 28:16
  resist
• 28:16
  it
• 28:16
  or
• 28:17
  scared
• 28:17
  of
• 28:17
  it
• 28:17
  or
• 28:17
  whatever,
• 28:19
  but
• 28:19
  then
• 28:19
  turns
• 28:20
  out
• 28:20
  to
• 28:20
  be
• 28:21
  just
• 28:21
  a
• 28:21
  new
• 28:21
  dimension,
• 28:22
  different
• 28:23
  level
• 28:23
  of
• 28:23
  richness.
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  would
• 28:25
  imagine
• 28:26
  it
• 28:26
  helps
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  have
• 28:27
  studied
• 28:28
  the
• 28:28
  great
• 28:28
  traditions,
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  great
• 28:29
  mystics,
• 28:30
  and
• 28:31
  because
• 28:31
  when
• 28:32
  you
• 28:32
  start
• 28:32
  experiencing
• 28:33
  these
• 28:33
  things,
• 28:34
  you
• 28:34
  know,
• 28:34
  you're
• 28:34
  not
• 28:35
  just
• 28:35
  going
• 28:36
  into
• 28:36
  annihilation
• 28:37
  or
• 28:37
  ceasing
• 28:37
  from
• 28:38
  being.
• 28:38
  It's.
• 28:39
  It's
• 28:39
  a
• 28:40
  reality
• 28:40
  and
• 28:41
  it's
• 28:41
  really
• 28:41
  ultimately
• 28:42
  okay.
• 28:43
  And
• 28:43
  when
• 28:43
  that
• 28:44
  happened
• 28:44
  to
• 28:44
  you
• 28:44
  while
• 28:44
  you're
• 28:45
  teaching
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  class
• 28:45
  that,
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  mean,
• 28:46
  you're
• 28:46
  very
• 28:46
  versed
• 28:47
  on
• 28:47
  all
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  great
• 28:48
  traditions.
• 28:48
  I
• 28:48
  mean,
• 28:48
  you
• 28:49
  like
• 28:49
  an
• 28:49
  encyclopedia.
• 28:51
  So
• 28:51
  did
• 28:51
  that
• 28:52
  help
• 28:52
  you
• 28:52
  to
• 28:52
  surrender
• 28:53
  to
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  experience
• 28:54
  because
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  knew
• 28:55
  a
• 28:55
  lot
• 28:55
  about
• 28:55
  it
• 28:55
  already?
• 28:56
  I
• 28:56
  think
• 28:56
  that
• 28:57
  helped,
• 28:57
  but
• 28:57
  that's
• 28:58
  not
• 28:58
  the
• 28:58
  basic
• 28:58
  thing
• 28:59
  that
• 28:59
  helped
• 28:59
  me.
• 29:00
  The
• 29:00
  basic
• 29:00
  thing
• 29:01
  that
• 29:01
  helped
• 29:01
  me,
• 29:01
  something
• 29:02
  we
• 29:02
  discussed
• 29:02
  before,
• 29:02
  which
• 29:03
  we
• 29:03
  call
• 29:03
  basic
• 29:04
  trust,
• 29:06
  trusting
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  inherent
• 29:08
  innate
• 29:09
  trust
• 29:09
  that
• 29:10
  reality
• 29:11
  is
• 29:11
  going
• 29:11
  to
• 29:11
  be
• 29:12
  okay,
• 29:12
  things
• 29:13
  are
• 29:13
  going
• 29:13
  to
• 29:13
  be
• 29:13
  okay.
• 29:15
  You
• 29:15
  know,
• 29:16
  it
• 29:17
  is
• 29:17
  inherent
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  human
• 29:18
  soul
• 29:19
  that
• 29:19
  there
• 29:19
  is
• 29:19
  basic
• 29:20
  trust.
• 29:21
  It
• 29:21
  gets
• 29:22
  sort
• 29:22
  of
• 29:23
  diminished
• 29:24
  because
• 29:24
  of
• 29:24
  our
• 29:25
  original
• 29:25
  experience
• 29:26
  in
• 29:26
  life
• 29:26
  and
• 29:27
  all
• 29:27
  that
• 29:27
  trauma,
• 29:28
  whatever.
• 29:29
  Many
• 29:30
  people
• 29:30
  lose
• 29:31
  much
• 29:31
  of
• 29:31
  their
• 29:31
  basic
• 29:32
  trust,
• 29:33
  but
• 29:33
  somebody
• 29:34
  has
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  have
• 29:34
  some
• 29:35
  basic
• 29:35
  trust
• 29:35
  to
• 29:36
  be
• 29:36
  alive.
• 29:37
  But
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  basic
• 29:38
  trust
• 29:39
  can
• 29:39
  be
• 29:39
  so
• 29:39
  strong
• 29:39
  and
• 29:40
  powerful
• 29:40
  that
• 29:40
  you're
• 29:41
  willing
• 29:41
  to
• 29:41
  let
• 29:41
  go
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  let
• 29:43
  yourself
• 29:43
  sort
• 29:43
  of
• 29:44
  die
• 29:45
  before
• 29:45
  you
• 29:45
  die.
• 29:47
  And
• 29:47
  Amit,
• 29:47
  I
• 29:48
  want
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  point
• 29:48
  to
• 29:49
  something
• 29:49
  very
• 29:50
  valuable
• 29:50
  in
• 29:51
  so
• 29:51
  much
• 29:52
  of
• 29:52
  what
• 29:52
  you
• 29:52
  do.
• 29:52
  You're
• 29:53
  speaking
• 29:53
  now
• 29:53
  of
• 29:53
  basic
• 29:54
  trust
• 29:54
  as
• 29:54
  this
• 29:55
  orientation
• 29:55
  of
• 29:56
  trust
• 29:57
  towards
• 29:58
  everything,
• 29:59
  towards
• 29:59
  being
• 30:00
  non
• 30:00
  being
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  universe
• 30:02
  manifestation,
• 30:03
  the
• 30:03
  unmanifest.
• 30:04
  And
• 30:04
  of
• 30:04
  course,
• 30:05
  within
• 30:05
  psychology.
• 30:07
  Erik
• 30:07
  Erickson,
• 30:08
  a
• 30:08
  famous
• 30:09
  developmental
• 30:10
  psychiatrist,
• 30:11
  said
• 30:11
  that
• 30:12
  first
• 30:12
  life
• 30:13
  stage
• 30:13
  is
• 30:13
  one
• 30:14
  of
• 30:15
  either
• 30:15
  building
• 30:16
  as
• 30:16
  of
• 30:16
  a
• 30:16
  trust
• 30:17
  versus
• 30:18
  mistrust,
• 30:18
  a
• 30:18
  fundamental
• 30:20
  mistrusting
• 30:21
  life
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  people,
• 30:22
  or
• 30:22
  trusting.
• 30:23
  But
• 30:25
  it's
• 30:25
  a
• 30:25
  very
• 30:26
  important
• 30:26
  idea
• 30:26
  in
• 30:27
  psychology.
• 30:27
  But
• 30:28
  it's
• 30:28
  psychological.
• 30:29
  It's
• 30:29
  based
• 30:30
  in
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  psyche.
• 30:30
  And
• 30:31
  time
• 30:31
  and
• 30:32
  time
• 30:32
  again,
• 30:32
  what
• 30:32
  I
• 30:33
  find
• 30:33
  you
• 30:34
  doing
• 30:34
  and
• 30:35
  what
• 30:35
  I
• 30:35
  find
• 30:36
  myself
• 30:36
  benefiting
• 30:37
  from
• 30:37
  is
• 30:38
  deepening
• 30:39
  fundamental
• 30:40
  psychological
• 30:41
  ideas
• 30:42
  to
• 30:42
  ground
• 30:43
  them
• 30:43
  in
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  absolute
• 30:46
  or
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  depths
• 30:47
  of
• 30:48
  reality.
• 30:49
  Yeah,
• 30:49
  any
• 30:50
  surrender,
• 30:50
  any
• 30:51
  letting
• 30:51
  go
• 30:51
  requires
• 30:52
  trust.
• 30:54
  It's
• 30:54
  not
• 30:54
  like
• 30:55
  trusting
• 30:55
  somebody,
• 30:56
  it's
• 30:56
  trusting
• 30:57
  reality.
• 30:58
  And
• 30:59
  it
• 30:59
  is
• 30:59
  inherent
• 31:00
  in
• 31:00
  our
• 31:01
  soul
• 31:01
  really,
• 31:02
  because
• 31:03
  it
• 31:03
  comes
• 31:03
  from
• 31:04
  true
• 31:04
  nature.
• 31:05
  You
• 31:06
  know,
• 31:06
  we
• 31:06
  sort
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  know
• 31:07
  we
• 31:07
  have
• 31:08
  true
• 31:08
  nature
• 31:08
  without
• 31:09
  knowing
• 31:09
  it
• 31:09
  consciously.
• 31:10
  So
• 31:11
  that's
• 31:11
  why
• 31:11
  the
• 31:12
  little
• 31:12
  infant
• 31:12
  is
• 31:13
  completely
• 31:13
  thirsting.
• 31:14
  I
• 31:14
  mean,
• 31:15
  if
• 31:15
  you
• 31:15
  don't
• 31:15
  hit
• 31:16
  it,
• 31:17
  it's
• 31:17
  fine,
• 31:18
  it's
• 31:18
  happy.
• 31:18
  And
• 31:19
  they
• 31:20
  haven't
• 31:20
  read
• 31:20
  the
• 31:20
  news
• 31:20
  yet,
• 31:21
  right?
• 31:23
  Jonah
• 31:24
  gets
• 31:24
  smaller
• 31:24
  and
• 31:25
  all
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  that
• 31:26
  only
• 31:26
  when
• 31:26
  late
• 31:27
  knows
• 31:27
  about
• 31:27
  all
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  trouble
• 31:28
  in
• 31:28
  the
• 31:29
  world
• 31:31
  or
• 31:31
  we
• 31:32
  get
• 31:32
  clobbered.
• 31:33
  But
• 31:34
  trust
• 31:34
  is
• 31:34
  connected
• 31:35
  to
• 31:35
  love
• 31:35
  too.
• 31:36
  Then
• 31:36
  here
• 31:36
  in
• 31:37
  nature
• 31:37
  is
• 31:37
  good
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  goodness
• 31:39
  expresses
• 31:40
  itself
• 31:40
  as
• 31:41
  what
• 31:41
  people
• 31:41
  call
• 31:42
  love
• 31:42
  or
• 31:43
  heart.
• 31:44
  And
• 31:44
  so
• 31:45
  that's
• 31:45
  why
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  more
• 31:47
  we
• 31:47
  are
• 31:47
  loved
• 31:48
  initially,
• 31:49
  the
• 31:50
  more
• 31:50
  basic.
• 31:51
  The
• 31:51
  more
• 31:51
  we
• 31:52
  grow
• 31:52
  up
• 31:52
  with
• 31:52
  basic
• 31:53
  trust.
• 31:54
  Basic
• 31:55
  trust
• 31:56
  remain
• 31:56
  somewhat
• 31:57
  intact
• 31:58
  in
• 31:58
  numbers,
• 31:59
  completely
• 31:59
  intact,
• 32:00
  but
• 32:00
  more
• 32:00
  intact
• 32:01
  than
• 32:01
  others.
• 32:02
  And
• 32:02
  amid.
• 32:03
  It
• 32:03
  would
• 32:03
  be
• 32:03
  valuable
• 32:04
  to.
• 32:05
  Now
• 32:05
  that
• 32:05
  you've
• 32:06
  introduced
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  Absolute,
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  fundamental.
• 32:09
  Of
• 32:09
  course
• 32:10
  words
• 32:10
  fail,
• 32:10
  but
• 32:11
  also
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  fundamental
• 32:14
  substrate
• 32:14
  of
• 32:15
  existence
• 32:15
  might
• 32:16
  be
• 32:16
  valuable
• 32:16
  to
• 32:17
  talk
• 32:17
  about
• 32:17
  the
• 32:17
  ways
• 32:18
  in
• 32:18
  which
• 32:18
  this
• 32:19
  is
• 32:19
  induced.
• 32:19
  And
• 32:19
  you
• 32:20
  emphasize
• 32:21
  too
• 32:22
  you
• 32:22
  call
• 32:22
  mystical
• 32:23
  poverty
• 32:23
  that
• 32:24
  is
• 32:24
  a
• 32:24
  releasing
• 32:24
  of
• 32:25
  all
• 32:25
  craving,
• 32:25
  attachment,
• 32:26
  ill,
• 32:27
  false
• 32:27
  or
• 32:27
  substitute
• 32:29
  loves
• 32:30
  or,
• 32:30
  and.
• 32:31
  Or
• 32:31
  the
• 32:31
  soul's
• 32:32
  love
• 32:32
  of
• 32:32
  our
• 32:33
  own
• 32:33
  true
• 32:33
  nature.
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  say
• 32:35
  those
• 32:36
  are
• 32:36
  both
• 32:36
  doorways
• 32:37
  into
• 32:37
  the
• 32:38
  realization
• 32:38
  of
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  absolute.
• 32:39
  Which
• 32:39
  also
• 32:40
  emphasizes.
• 32:41
  It's
• 32:42
  not
• 32:42
  a
• 32:42
  common
• 32:43
  realization.
• 32:44
  No,
• 32:44
  it's
• 32:45
  not
• 32:45
  common.
• 32:45
  But
• 32:46
  you
• 32:46
  know,
• 32:47
  different
• 32:47
  teachings
• 32:48
  have
• 32:48
  different
• 32:49
  methodologies
• 32:50
  and
• 32:51
  the
• 32:51
  deeper
• 32:52
  teachings
• 32:52
  all
• 32:53
  go
• 32:53
  there
• 32:54
  and
• 32:54
  they
• 32:55
  always
• 32:55
  culminate
• 32:56
  in
• 32:56
  that
• 32:56
  place.
• 32:57
  It
• 32:58
  is
• 32:58
  not
• 32:58
  necessarily
• 33:00
  finally,
• 33:01
  but
• 33:01
  it
• 33:01
  is
• 33:02
  a
• 33:02
  central
• 33:02
  thing
• 33:03
  from
• 33:03
  which
• 33:04
  of
• 33:04
  course
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  natural
• 33:05
  is
• 33:06
  adorned
• 33:07
  with
• 33:07
  all
• 33:07
  the
• 33:08
  qualities,
• 33:09
  all
• 33:09
  the
• 33:09
  possibilities
• 33:10
  and
• 33:10
  capacities
• 33:12
  and.
• 33:15
  But
• 33:15
  we
• 33:15
  need
• 33:16
  to
• 33:16
  understand
• 33:17
  more
• 33:17
  about
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  Absolute
• 33:19
  beside
• 33:20
  it's
• 33:20
  emptiness.
• 33:21
  It's
• 33:22
  what
• 33:22
  Buddhism
• 33:23
  called
• 33:23
  emptiness.
• 33:24
  It's
• 33:25
  not
• 33:25
  any
• 33:25
  emptiness.
• 33:26
  Buddhism
• 33:26
  calls
• 33:27
  emptiness,
• 33:27
  which
• 33:28
  is
• 33:28
  the
• 33:29
  absence
• 33:29
  of
• 33:29
  inherent
• 33:30
  existence.
• 33:30
  That
• 33:31
  was
• 33:31
  why
• 33:31
  I
• 33:31
  call
• 33:32
  it
• 33:32
  non
• 33:32
  being.
• 33:33
  Non
• 33:33
  being
• 33:34
  is
• 33:34
  my
• 33:35
  language
• 33:36
  for
• 33:36
  absence
• 33:37
  of
• 33:37
  inherent
• 33:37
  existence.
• 33:38
  Existence
• 33:39
  is
• 33:39
  being.
• 33:40
  And
• 33:41
  here
• 33:41
  it
• 33:41
  exists
• 33:41
  as
• 33:41
  a
• 33:42
  pure
• 33:42
  being.
• 33:43
  It
• 33:43
  is
• 33:43
  absence
• 33:44
  is
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  negation
• 33:45
  of
• 33:45
  that.
• 33:45
  The
• 33:45
  Opposite
• 33:46
  of
• 33:46
  that,
• 33:47
  but
• 33:48
  also
• 33:48
  we
• 33:48
  need
• 33:48
  to
• 33:48
  recognize
• 33:49
  it
• 33:49
  is
• 33:49
  also
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  place
• 33:52
  of
• 33:52
  pure
• 33:53
  silence
• 33:53
  and
• 33:54
  stillness,
• 33:55
  contentment,
• 33:57
  unspeakable
• 33:58
  kind
• 33:59
  of
• 33:59
  fulfillment
• 33:59
  and
• 34:00
  contentment.
• 34:01
  And
• 34:02
  also
• 34:03
  it
• 34:03
  has
• 34:04
  an
• 34:04
  erasing
• 34:05
  kind
• 34:05
  of
• 34:06
  quality
• 34:06
  to
• 34:07
  it.
• 34:07
  Raises
• 34:07
  mind
• 34:08
  and
• 34:09
  manifestations.
• 34:10
  And
• 34:12
  of
• 34:13
  course,
• 34:13
  in
• 34:13
  the
• 34:13
  process,
• 34:14
  raises
• 34:14
  all
• 34:15
  impurities,
• 34:15
  all
• 34:16
  contractions,
• 34:17
  all
• 34:18
  stiffness,
• 34:19
  all
• 34:20
  views.
• 34:22
  It
• 34:22
  raises
• 34:23
  mind,
• 34:23
  heart
• 34:24
  and
• 34:24
  body,
• 34:24
  all
• 34:25
  of
• 34:25
  it
• 34:25
  together.
• 34:26
  So
• 34:26
  cessation,
• 34:28
  which
• 34:28
  is
• 34:28
  the
• 34:29
  entry
• 34:29
  into
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  Absolute
• 34:30
  is.
• 34:31
  Everything
• 34:32
  is
• 34:32
  dissolved,
• 34:33
  everything
• 34:33
  is
• 34:33
  let
• 34:34
  go
• 34:34
  of.
• 34:35
  Then
• 34:35
  when
• 34:36
  we
• 34:36
  arise,
• 34:37
  we
• 34:37
  find
• 34:38
  ourselves
• 34:38
  as
• 34:38
  this
• 34:39
  vastness
• 34:41
  where
• 34:41
  the
• 34:42
  whole
• 34:42
  universe
• 34:42
  emerges
• 34:44
  from
• 34:44
  the
• 34:45
  perspective
• 34:45
  of
• 34:45
  this
• 34:45
  inner
• 34:46
  vastness
• 34:47
  that
• 34:47
  is
• 34:48
  completely
• 34:48
  non
• 34:49
  being.
• 34:50
  The
• 34:50
  universe
• 34:50
  appears
• 34:51
  as
• 34:52
  a
• 34:52
  glittering
• 34:53
  light.
• 34:55
  Glittering,
• 34:56
  of
• 34:57
  course,
• 34:57
  because
• 34:57
  absolutely
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  world
• 34:59
  has
• 34:59
  colors.
• 35:00
  The
• 35:00
  stars
• 35:01
  and
• 35:02
  trees
• 35:03
  and
• 35:03
  everything,
• 35:03
  it
• 35:04
  comes
• 35:04
  back,
• 35:05
  but
• 35:06
  as
• 35:06
  if
• 35:07
  looking
• 35:07
  at
• 35:07
  it
• 35:08
  from
• 35:08
  inside
• 35:09
  it,
• 35:09
  from
• 35:09
  beneath
• 35:10
  it.
• 35:11
  So
• 35:12
  it's
• 35:12
  like
• 35:12
  the
• 35:12
  outer
• 35:13
  surface
• 35:13
  of
• 35:13
  the
• 35:14
  universe,
• 35:14
  the
• 35:14
  outer
• 35:15
  expression.
• 35:16
  And
• 35:17
  from
• 35:17
  perspective,
• 35:18
  the
• 35:18
  absolute.
• 35:19
  All
• 35:19
  is
• 35:20
  transparent,
• 35:20
  all
• 35:21
  is
• 35:23
  pure
• 35:23
  light.
• 35:25
  And
• 35:25
  that
• 35:25
  light
• 35:26
  is
• 35:26
  pure
• 35:26
  awareness
• 35:27
  or
• 35:27
  pure
• 35:27
  consciousness.
• 35:29
  Back
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  theme
• 35:30
  of
• 35:30
  spiritual
• 35:31
  poverty.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  imagine
• 35:34
  that
• 35:35
  people
• 35:35
  might
• 35:36
  think
• 35:36
  that
• 35:36
  you
• 35:36
  have
• 35:36
  to
• 35:36
  be
• 35:37
  completely
• 35:37
  obtained
• 35:38
  spiritual
• 35:38
  poverty
• 35:39
  before
• 35:39
  you
• 35:40
  can
• 35:40
  experience
• 35:40
  the
• 35:40
  absolute
• 35:41
  or
• 35:41
  God,
• 35:41
  or
• 35:41
  however
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  want
• 35:42
  to
• 35:42
  say
• 35:42
  that.
• 35:43
  But
• 35:44
  it
• 35:44
  seems
• 35:44
  that
• 35:45
  the
• 35:45
  experience
• 35:45
  of
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  absolute
• 35:47
  actually
• 35:47
  leads
• 35:48
  to
• 35:48
  spiritual
• 35:49
  poverty,
• 35:49
  where
• 35:49
  you
• 35:49
  can
• 35:50
  let
• 35:50
  go
• 35:50
  of
• 35:50
  things
• 35:50
  because
• 35:51
  external
• 35:51
  things
• 35:52
  are
• 35:52
  no
• 35:52
  longer
• 35:52
  the
• 35:53
  source
• 35:53
  of
• 35:54
  your
• 35:54
  peace
• 35:54
  and
• 35:54
  your
• 35:54
  happiness.
• 35:55
  It's
• 35:56
  because
• 35:56
  of
• 35:56
  this
• 35:57
  realization
• 35:58
  that
• 35:58
  gives
• 35:59
  you
• 35:59
  that
• 35:59
  liberation
• 36:00
  and
• 36:00
  that
• 36:00
  poverty.
• 36:02
  Well,
• 36:03
  you
• 36:03
  know,
• 36:04
  St.
• 36:05
  John
• 36:05
  the
• 36:05
  Cross
• 36:06
  considers
• 36:07
  mystical
• 36:07
  poverty
• 36:08
  as
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  way
• 36:09
  to
• 36:09
  it.
• 36:09
  You
• 36:10
  have
• 36:10
  to
• 36:10
  first
• 36:11
  go
• 36:11
  through
• 36:11
  mystical
• 36:12
  poverty,
• 36:12
  which
• 36:13
  means
• 36:13
  recognize
• 36:14
  that
• 36:15
  basically
• 36:15
  mystical
• 36:16
  poverty
• 36:16
  is
• 36:17
  recognizing
• 36:17
  that
• 36:17
  the
• 36:18
  soul
• 36:18
  has
• 36:18
  nothing
• 36:18
  of
• 36:19
  its
• 36:19
  own.
• 36:19
  Doesn't
• 36:20
  have
• 36:21
  riches,
• 36:22
  doesn't
• 36:22
  have
• 36:24
  capacity.
• 36:25
  All
• 36:25
  comes
• 36:25
  from
• 36:26
  the
• 36:26
  source.
• 36:28
  It's
• 36:28
  all
• 36:28
  borrowed,
• 36:30
  given
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  it.
• 36:31
  That's
• 36:31
  what
• 36:31
  mystical
• 36:32
  poverty
• 36:32
  mean.
• 36:32
  None
• 36:33
  of
• 36:33
  it
• 36:33
  is
• 36:33
  my
• 36:33
  own.
• 36:35
  And
• 36:35
  recognizing
• 36:36
  that,
• 36:36
  you
• 36:36
  begin
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  recognize,
• 36:37
  well,
• 36:38
  where
• 36:38
  does
• 36:38
  it
• 36:38
  come
• 36:39
  from?
• 36:40
  That
• 36:41
  would
• 36:41
  bring
• 36:42
  then
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  inner
• 36:44
  silence.
• 36:44
  That
• 36:45
  is
• 36:45
  the
• 36:45
  source.
• 36:47
  Yeah.
• 36:47
  Jesus
• 36:48
  said,
• 36:48
  unless
• 36:49
  a
• 36:49
  person
• 36:50
  forsakes
• 36:51
  all
• 36:51
  that
• 36:51
  he
• 36:51
  has,
• 36:52
  or
• 36:52
  she
• 36:52
  has,
• 36:53
  they
• 36:53
  cannot
• 36:54
  be
• 36:54
  my
• 36:54
  disciple.
• 36:56
  So
• 36:56
  I
• 36:57
  think
• 36:57
  you
• 36:57
  can
• 36:58
  take
• 36:58
  that
• 36:58
  as.
• 36:58
  As
• 36:59
  literal.
• 36:59
  You
• 36:59
  know,
• 36:59
  you
• 36:59
  gotta
• 37:00
  take
• 37:01
  off
• 37:01
  your
• 37:01
  clothes
• 37:01
  and
• 37:02
  just
• 37:02
  be
• 37:02
  naked.
• 37:03
  Or
• 37:03
  it's
• 37:04
  that
• 37:04
  inner
• 37:05
  realizing
• 37:05
  that
• 37:06
  you
• 37:06
  don't
• 37:07
  possess
• 37:07
  anything
• 37:07
  you've
• 37:08
  let
• 37:08
  go.
• 37:09
  And
• 37:10
  there
• 37:10
  it
• 37:10
  is.
• 37:10
  Exactly.
• 37:11
  It's
• 37:12
  not
• 37:12
  an
• 37:13
  attachment,
• 37:13
  but
• 37:14
  part
• 37:14
  of
• 37:15
  recognition.
• 37:15
  None
• 37:16
  of
• 37:16
  it
• 37:16
  is
• 37:16
  mine.
• 37:17
  Whatever
• 37:17
  I
• 37:18
  have
• 37:18
  is
• 37:18
  given.
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  mean,
• 37:20
  all
• 37:21
  my
• 37:21
  experience,
• 37:22
  my
• 37:22
  awareness,
• 37:23
  my
• 37:23
  capacity
• 37:23
  to
• 37:24
  think
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  know,
• 37:25
  all
• 37:25
  of
• 37:25
  this
• 37:26
  is
• 37:27
  given
• 37:27
  to
• 37:27
  me.
• 37:30
  That's
• 37:30
  extremely
• 37:30
  beautiful,
• 37:31
  by
• 37:31
  the
• 37:31
  way.
• 37:31
  Yeah.
• 37:32
  For
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  soul,
• 37:33
  from
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  perspective
• 37:34
  of
• 37:34
  the
• 37:34
  soul,
• 37:34
  that's
• 37:35
  given
• 37:35
  to
• 37:35
  me
• 37:36
  because
• 37:36
  we
• 37:36
  start
• 37:37
  as
• 37:37
  a
• 37:37
  soul,
• 37:37
  as
• 37:37
  an
• 37:38
  individual
• 37:38
  consciousness.
• 37:39
  From
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  absolute,
• 37:40
  of
• 37:40
  course,
• 37:41
  the
• 37:41
  source
• 37:41
  of
• 37:42
  all
• 37:42
  of
• 37:42
  these
• 37:42
  qualities
• 37:44
  because
• 37:44
  from
• 37:44
  it
• 37:45
  emerges
• 37:45
  all
• 37:46
  the
• 37:46
  awareness,
• 37:47
  all
• 37:48
  love,
• 37:48
  all
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  radiance,
• 37:49
  all
• 37:50
  the
• 37:50
  light,
• 37:50
  all
• 37:52
  colors,
• 37:53
  beauty,
• 37:53
  all
• 37:54
  of
• 37:54
  that.
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  mean,
• 37:56
  and
• 37:56
  mystical
• 37:57
  poverty
• 37:57
  is
• 37:58
  one
• 37:58
  of
• 37:58
  the
• 37:58
  ways
• 37:59
  of
• 37:59
  getting
• 38:00
  into
• 38:00
  the
• 38:00
  Absolute.
• 38:01
  It's
• 38:01
  not
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  only
• 38:02
  way.
• 38:03
  And
• 38:03
  the
• 38:04
  other
• 38:04
  way,
• 38:04
  of
• 38:04
  course,
• 38:06
  just
• 38:07
  on.
• 38:07
  My
• 38:08
  latest
• 38:08
  book
• 38:10
  that's
• 38:10
  gonna
• 38:11
  come
• 38:11
  next
• 38:11
  week,
• 38:11
  is
• 38:12
  about
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  inner
• 38:13
  beloved
• 38:14
  going
• 38:14
  through
• 38:14
  mystical
• 38:15
  puberty
• 38:16
  to
• 38:16
  find
• 38:16
  out
• 38:16
  what
• 38:16
  is
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  true
• 38:17
  beloved.
• 38:18
  Like
• 38:19
  that
• 38:19
  is
• 38:19
  the
• 38:20
  devotional
• 38:20
  or
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  hard
• 38:21
  way
• 38:22
  of
• 38:22
  getting
• 38:22
  to
• 38:23
  the
• 38:23
  Absolute.
• 38:23
  Find
• 38:24
  out
• 38:24
  what
• 38:25
  do
• 38:25
  I
• 38:25
  really
• 38:25
  love
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  finding
• 38:27
  out
• 38:28
  that
• 38:28
  whatever
• 38:28
  I
• 38:29
  love
• 38:30
  doesn't
• 38:31
  completely
• 38:32
  do
• 38:32
  it.
• 38:32
  There's
• 38:33
  always
• 38:34
  something,
• 38:36
  some
• 38:36
  imperfection,
• 38:37
  something
• 38:37
  missing,
• 38:38
  something.
• 38:39
  And
• 38:39
  so
• 38:40
  that
• 38:41
  is
• 38:41
  the
• 38:41
  whole
• 38:42
  spiritual
• 38:43
  teaching
• 38:44
  which
• 38:44
  is
• 38:44
  you
• 38:45
  don't
• 38:46
  find
• 38:47
  the
• 38:47
  truth
• 38:47
  or
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  ultimate
• 38:49
  fulfillment
• 38:49
  in
• 38:49
  the
• 38:50
  world,
• 38:50
  you
• 38:51
  find
• 38:51
  it
• 38:51
  inside.
• 38:52
  Yeah.
• 38:53
  And
• 38:53
  that's
• 38:54
  why,
• 38:54
  you
• 38:54
  know,
• 38:54
  what's
• 38:55
  his
• 38:55
  name?
• 38:56
  One
• 38:56
  of
• 38:57
  the
• 38:57
  saying
• 38:58
  Muhammad,
• 38:58
  I
• 38:59
  think,
• 39:00
  tribute
• 39:00
  to
• 39:00
  God.
• 39:01
  It's
• 39:01
  called
• 39:01
  Hadith
• 39:02
  Qudsi,
• 39:02
  which
• 39:02
  means
• 39:03
  sacred
• 39:03
  saying.
• 39:04
  Where
• 39:05
  God
• 39:05
  says,
• 39:06
  don't
• 39:06
  look
• 39:06
  for
• 39:07
  me
• 39:07
  in
• 39:07
  mosques
• 39:08
  or
• 39:08
  churches
• 39:09
  or
• 39:09
  synagogue.
• 39:10
  Look
• 39:11
  for
• 39:11
  me
• 39:11
  in
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  hearts
• 39:12
  of
• 39:12
  my
• 39:12
  lovers.
• 39:15
  Beautiful,
• 39:17
  beautiful.
• 39:18
  Yeah,
• 39:18
  yeah.
• 39:19
  And
• 39:19
  true
• 39:20
  as
• 39:21
  one
• 39:21
  way
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  finding
• 39:22
  it,
• 39:22
  the
• 39:22
  way
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  heart,
• 39:23
  it
• 39:23
  is
• 39:24
  the
• 39:25
  very
• 39:26
  depth
• 39:27
  of
• 39:27
  the
• 39:27
  heart.
• 39:30
  Of
• 39:31
  my
• 39:31
  experiences.
• 39:32
  I
• 39:32
  followed
• 39:33
  that
• 39:33
  path
• 39:34
  too.
• 39:35
  Not
• 39:35
  intentionally,
• 39:36
  it
• 39:37
  just
• 39:37
  happened.
• 39:38
  Yeah,
• 39:39
  it
• 39:39
  happened
• 39:39
  through
• 39:40
  the
• 39:40
  heart.
• 39:40
  It
• 39:41
  happened
• 39:41
  through
• 39:41
  many
• 39:41
  ways.
• 39:42
  One
• 39:42
  of
• 39:42
  them
• 39:42
  was
• 39:42
  through
• 39:43
  the
• 39:43
  heart
• 39:44
  and
• 39:44
  you
• 39:44
  know,
• 39:45
  went
• 39:45
  through
• 39:45
  all,
• 39:46
  seeing
• 39:47
  all
• 39:47
  my
• 39:47
  loves
• 39:47
  are
• 39:48
  incomplete
• 39:48
  and
• 39:49
  this
• 39:49
  all
• 39:49
  not
• 39:50
  sufficient.
• 39:51
  And
• 39:51
  seeing
• 39:52
  that
• 39:54
  different
• 39:54
  thing
• 39:55
  I
• 39:55
  love
• 39:55
  as
• 39:56
  polytheism.
• 39:57
  I
• 39:57
  love
• 39:57
  many
• 39:57
  things
• 39:58
  instead
• 39:58
  of
• 39:58
  one
• 39:58
  thing.
• 40:00
  Until
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  heart
• 40:01
  is
• 40:02
  free
• 40:02
  from
• 40:02
  all
• 40:03
  those
• 40:03
  outer
• 40:03
  beloved
• 40:05
  and
• 40:05
  then
• 40:05
  become
• 40:05
  empty.
• 40:06
  That
• 40:06
  when
• 40:07
  I
• 40:07
  go
• 40:07
  to
• 40:07
  the
• 40:07
  inner
• 40:08
  poverty,
• 40:08
  the
• 40:09
  mystical
• 40:09
  poverty
• 40:10
  and
• 40:10
  beyond
• 40:11
  that,
• 40:12
  that's
• 40:12
  when
• 40:13
  the
• 40:13
  true
• 40:13
  beloved
• 40:14
  shines
• 40:15
  in
• 40:15
  the
• 40:15
  heart.
• 40:16
  And
• 40:16
  when
• 40:16
  it
• 40:16
  shines
• 40:17
  through
• 40:17
  the
• 40:17
  heart,
• 40:18
  it's
• 40:18
  an
• 40:18
  amazing
• 40:20
  uplift,
• 40:21
  it's
• 40:21
  an
• 40:21
  amazing
• 40:22
  ecstasy.
• 40:24
  That's
• 40:24
  when
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  beauty
• 40:25
  really
• 40:25
  shows.
• 40:26
  Because
• 40:26
  that
• 40:26
  peace
• 40:27
  in
• 40:27
  the
• 40:27
  heart,
• 40:28
  it's
• 40:28
  like
• 40:29
  mind
• 40:29
  blowing
• 40:29
  kind
• 40:30
  of
• 40:30
  beauty.
• 40:33
  You
• 40:33
  make
• 40:33
  very
• 40:33
  clear
• 40:34
  that
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  experience
• 40:36
  of
• 40:36
  the
• 40:36
  absolute
• 40:37
  aura
• 40:37
  of
• 40:37
  any
• 40:37
  of
• 40:38
  the
• 40:38
  boundless
• 40:39
  dimensions
• 40:40
  is
• 40:41
  radically
• 40:42
  fulfilling
• 40:43
  in
• 40:43
  a
• 40:43
  way
• 40:43
  that
• 40:44
  no
• 40:44
  manifest,
• 40:45
  single
• 40:46
  manifest
• 40:46
  object
• 40:47
  could
• 40:47
  ever
• 40:47
  be.
• 40:48
  And
• 40:49
  this
• 40:49
  also
• 40:49
  points
• 40:50
  to
• 40:50
  another
• 40:50
  very
• 40:51
  important
• 40:51
  thing
• 40:52
  you
• 40:52
  emphasize,
• 40:53
  Hameed.
• 40:54
  And
• 40:54
  that
• 40:54
  is
• 40:54
  that
• 40:55
  there's
• 40:55
  this
• 40:56
  mysterious
• 40:57
  paradox
• 40:58
  that
• 40:59
  the
• 40:59
  absolute
• 41:00
  is
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  unmanifest,
• 41:04
  radically
• 41:05
  radical
• 41:05
  non
• 41:06
  being.
• 41:06
  And
• 41:07
  yet
• 41:08
  it
• 41:08
  has
• 41:11
  an
• 41:11
  unbounded
• 41:12
  potential
• 41:13
  for
• 41:13
  manifestation.
• 41:15
  Stay
• 41:15
  tuned
• 41:16
  for
• 41:16
  the
• 41:16
  second
• 41:16
  part
• 41:17
  of
• 41:17
  our
• 41:17
  conversation
• 41:18
  with
• 41:18
  A.
• 41:18
  H.
• 41:18
  Almaas
• 41:19
  where
• 41:19
  we
• 41:20
  continue
• 41:20
  to
• 41:20
  explore
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  absolute
• 41:21
  and
• 41:22
  our
• 41:22
  ultimate
• 41:22
  true
• 41:23
  nature.
• 41:23
  Thank
• 41:23
  you
• 41:24
  very
• 41:24
  much
• 41:24
  for
• 41:25
  being
• 41:25
  a
• 41:25
  part
• 41:25
  of
• 41:25
  this
• 41:26
  conversation.
• 41:26
  We
• 41:27
  hope
• 41:27
  that
• 41:27
  you
• 41:27
  were
• 41:27
  moved
• 41:28
  as
• 41:28
  we
• 41:28
  are
• 41:29
  moved
• 41:29
  being
• 41:29
  part
• 41:29
  of
• 41:30
  it
• 41:30
  ourselves.
• 41:31
  We'd
• 41:31
  also
• 41:31
  like
• 41:31
  to
• 41:32
  say
• 41:32
  that
• 41:32
  this
• 41:32
  is
• 41:32
  being
• 41:33
  funded
• 41:33
  by
• 41:34
  Roger
• 41:34
  and
• 41:34
  myself.
• 41:34
  It
• 41:35
  comes
• 41:35
  out
• 41:35
  of
• 41:35
  our
• 41:35
  pockets.
• 41:36
  So
• 41:36
  if
• 41:36
  you
• 41:36
  would
• 41:36
  like
• 41:36
  to
• 41:37
  help
• 41:37
  us
• 41:37
  to
• 41:38
  mainly
• 41:38
  to
• 41:38
  get
• 41:39
  this
• 41:39
  podcast
• 41:39
  out
• 41:39
  to
• 41:40
  more
• 41:40
  people
• 41:40
  because
• 41:41
  the
• 41:41
  bigger
• 41:41
  audience
• 41:41
  have
• 41:42
  which
• 41:42
  is
• 41:42
  steadily
• 41:42
  growing
• 41:43
  but
• 41:43
  the
• 41:43
  more
• 41:43
  people
• 41:44
  we
• 41:44
  can
• 41:44
  reach
• 41:44
  and
• 41:44
  the
• 41:44
  more
• 41:44
  marketing
• 41:45
  we
• 41:45
  can
• 41:45
  do,
• 41:46
  the
• 41:46
  more
• 41:46
  positive
• 41:47
  effect
• 41:47
  we
• 41:47
  can
• 41:47
  have
• 41:48
  on
• 41:48
  the
• 41:48
  world.
• 41:48
  So
• 41:48
  we
• 41:49
  done
• 41:49
  a
• 41:49
  couple
• 41:49
  of
• 41:49
  ways
• 41:50
  but
• 41:50
  we'd
• 41:50
  like
• 41:50
  you
• 41:50
  to
• 41:51
  buy
• 41:51
  us
• 41:51
  a
• 41:51
  cup
• 41:51
  of
• 41:51
  coffee.
• 41:52
  Very
• 41:52
  simple
• 41:52
  and
• 41:53
  I
• 41:53
  do
• 41:53
  that
• 41:53
  with
• 41:53
  podcasts
• 41:54
  that
• 41:54
  I
• 41:55
  support
• 41:55
  and
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  find
• 41:56
  it's
• 41:56
  very
• 41:57
  satisfying.
• 41:57
  So
• 41:58
  thank
• 41:58
  you
• 41:58
  for
• 41:58
  your
• 41:58
  help,
• 41:59
  thank
• 41:59
  you
• 41:59
  for
• 41:59
  your
• 42:00
  presence
• 42:00
  and
• 42:00
  thank
• 42:00
  you
• 42:01
  for
• 42:01
  all
• 42:01
  you
• 42:01
  are
• 42:02
  and
• 42:02
  all
• 42:02
  you
• 42:02
  do.
• 42:02
  We
• 42:02
  love
• 42:02
  you.