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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, July 31 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Okay, to go Jackuars.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know Jack Jaguars? Did you Jaguars Drive Time?
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Bryan Sex Steps, John O. Ashley. Jaguars Drive Time starts
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  Speaker 1: right now. Welcome into Jack's Drive Time, brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by Duval Motor Company. Throughout today's practice, you're gonna get
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: this shot a live look at the training camp practice field.
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  Speaker 1: We have a camera out there today to show you
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  Speaker 1: some live drills and to see what's going on. But
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: before the show started and that music played, Bryan got hyped.
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  Speaker 1: He was a little excited. Jaguars. That was That was
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  Speaker 1: a that was the It was you know the best
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  Speaker 1: part about that. People who are watching this, and since
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: it's on social media, I'm not sure if anybody's old enough,
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  Speaker 1: but nine Jaguars go fifteen and three, they lose three
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  Speaker 1: times to the Tennessee Titans, and that that oh Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: rap you remember, um, you know it came out before
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. And then Vick Catchman, who was the senior
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  Speaker 1: editor of then Jaguars Inside Report, which was still a
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  Speaker 1: printed newspaper. Remember that right printed newspapers, UM put on
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  Speaker 1: the headline oh Jaguars, which fit right? Song loss oh
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  Speaker 1: TC was hot. He like that. He held it up.
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  Speaker 1: He said, that's a shot. That's a shot. Vic said,
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  Speaker 1: it is what it is. Lots of memories. The season
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  Speaker 1: is just flooding me with memories like that. And as
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  Speaker 1: as Vic used to say, um, it's the memories that
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  Speaker 1: make you rich. And someday you will be rich with
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  Speaker 1: memories from your professional footballer. For now, he and I
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  Speaker 1: are billionaires when it comes to that. Joe liked it.
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  Speaker 1: They liked it. The whole office was dancing. I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Get on the mic and say something. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: funny about that song. What they they sing, Um Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: what You're gonna do? Brown's what You're gonna do? Steelers
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  Speaker 1: They never said Titans in that song. Never would. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd include if you could bring
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  Speaker 1: out it's time for Jaguars football at some point I
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  Speaker 1: would just I might lose myself. Who knows. Anyway, we're
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  Speaker 1: way off topic, but the twenty fifth season is. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's fun. It really is for people who are watching
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  Speaker 1: and for those of us who have been here and
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  Speaker 1: the newbie here. With that, let's get into big things.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing one is competition. It's all over the training
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  Speaker 1: camp field, and that's what makes training camp great. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: Dunrone encourages competition and excited to see it. H Oh,
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  Speaker 1: can a position really on our football team that doesn't have,
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  Speaker 1: you know, competition as far as a roster spot? Um,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that's pretty cool, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: mean you go in there and you watch them go,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see which one's grab him and see which
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  Speaker 1: one's you know, with special teams and things of that nature.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's um exciting. Stun Row was rather chipper yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: rather positive and optimistic, which is somewhat like unlike him.
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  Speaker 1: When he got to the cornerbacks, he also complimented that position.
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison's safety talked after practice and said that entire
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  Speaker 1: room is making him better. It just keeps everybody hungry.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're still competing. You know, nobody nobody's spot
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  Speaker 1: is solidified. You know, we're competing in this is training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's fire for a spot, so we didn't making plays
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  Speaker 1: like that. You know. It just brands energy to the room.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it decided it is going to practice fun
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  Speaker 1: and finally, big thing three is counting on them, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not exactly the superstar that you count you're counting on.
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  Speaker 1: You are counting on um Jalen Ramsay and Leonard for Nett.
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  Speaker 1: But it's Jeff Swaine, Quincy Williams, Jerry Wilson, guys like
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  Speaker 1: that who aren't the superstars. But you need him to
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  Speaker 1: play well this season. But one guy almost is becoming
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  Speaker 1: a superstar, and that's Quincy Williams. Yes, Jay dougn Bron
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  Speaker 1: said he's the fastest on the football field. And the
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  Speaker 1: locker room didn't really like that one. Really when you
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  Speaker 1: when the ball snapped and and I think he might
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  Speaker 1: be the fastest player on our on our football field
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  Speaker 1: right now. I mean when you watch him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he is fast. I mean I know d
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  Speaker 1: D will be passed. There'll be a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: receivers that will be pissed off. But I'm just telling
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  Speaker 1: you now, I mean you know, and you guys know
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing I mean he is fast. See, guys, were
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  Speaker 1: you as alarmed as I was about the compliments he
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  Speaker 1: was throwing out Coach Moron and the optimism It was
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  Speaker 1: unlike him normally, he's the guy that keeps it very
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  Speaker 1: even Keel never calls a guy out and not coming
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  Speaker 1: about Quincy Williams. I think everyone was Wow, that's unlike him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things. There's no better way to start
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  Speaker 1: a heated debate in the locker room than to ask
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  Speaker 1: three guys which of them is the fastest, because if
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  Speaker 1: you're not playing line in the NFL, you think you're
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  Speaker 1: the fastest guy on the team, even if you're not.
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  Speaker 1: The only time I've ever seen that not up for
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  Speaker 1: debate was when Corey Grant was here and he was
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  Speaker 1: so fast. Nobody debated it, but they'll that will get
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  Speaker 1: chatter started. Um. Doug was optimistic yesterday and out of
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  Speaker 1: all that the one we didn't use. He was really
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  Speaker 1: high on Ronnie Harrison as well, and called Ronnie Harrison,
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  Speaker 1: who he saw on the bit uh, a guy who
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  Speaker 1: can be a playmaker. And when Doug says playmaker, he's
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  Speaker 1: talking about a guy he's talking more about Jalen Ramsey,
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  Speaker 1: kind of a playmaker that makes plays that matter, as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to as he said, just knocking a weigh a past.
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  Speaker 1: So um at everything he said yesterday, I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was the most interesting. Um, we're here to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams who Brian we talked on the podcast yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be a really
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  Speaker 1: impact I do too. I have to step back the
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  Speaker 1: real quick on the Doug thing. Um. I haven't talked
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  Speaker 1: to Doug about this, but you talked about him being
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  Speaker 1: positive and and having a more optimistic outlook when he
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  Speaker 1: talks to the media. UM. I have not talked to
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  Speaker 1: him about this, but I've talked to people, players and coaches,
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  Speaker 1: and last year got heavy, uh, almost a dark. But
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  Speaker 1: last year at this place was in a funk and
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't his best and things in terms of always
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  Speaker 1: being cheerful and and and seeing the good in things.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, he talked all offseason about changing some things.
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  Speaker 1: And I've noticed that too, and I I believe, without
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  Speaker 1: having asked him, that that is a conscious effort on
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  Speaker 1: his part. Um. We've seen the schedule change, We've seen
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  Speaker 1: training camp change. UM. I think that's a part of him,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's it's not coincidental. It's not just
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  Speaker 1: guys playing well. He has changed the way that he's
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  Speaker 1: approached it. To him, every day is high energy, and
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  Speaker 1: it seems like Doug is excited for the season all right,
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  Speaker 1: back to what he's as excited as he's going to be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's make sure there. You can't change, you can't change
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  Speaker 1: fundamentally who you are, but you can't alter some of
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  Speaker 1: your methods. And I think this is a method that
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  Speaker 1: he's altering to try to keep it. Funds the wrong
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  Speaker 1: word for professional football, but fun. You know, they've got
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  Speaker 1: a serious job to get done, and they all understand
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  Speaker 1: what's at stakes here in the pressure that's there to
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  Speaker 1: win in nineteen um. But you get to choose is
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  Speaker 1: it going to be fun or is it just going
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  Speaker 1: to be intense at all times? And I think he's
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  Speaker 1: got a nice blend of both when he sits there
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  Speaker 1: and talks about what he likes as opposed to you
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  Speaker 1: know what he doesn't. Yeah, he certainly wasn't giddy and seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: He was really down last year, but you know all
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  Speaker 1: coaches do. But Doug really owns what's going on, and
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  Speaker 1: when he talks about it, bothering him for the fan
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  Speaker 1: ends for ownership even beyond himself. I think he's sincere
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  Speaker 1: in that, and I think that's part of why he
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  Speaker 1: got so low last year. But even when he's up.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for him to be giddy. He's not a
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  Speaker 1: naturally giddy guy. But that's a pronounced change. It absolutely
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  Speaker 1: And Doug Moron, head coach of the Jaguars, and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, kudos to him for deciding to make that
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  Speaker 1: move to find a positive out there every day, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's in the meeting rooms. Hey, what
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  Speaker 1: is this right? He's willing to do that. Back to
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  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams, I turned to you at one point, we're
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  Speaker 1: standing out there, Yes, they went. I mean he made
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  Speaker 1: an inside move, an instinctual move where he read the
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  Speaker 1: guard and blew up the play in the backfield. Right,
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  Speaker 1: And you don't see rookie linebackers from Murray State colleges
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  Speaker 1: of that ill step into the NFL and show you
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  Speaker 1: that sort of instinct in the first five or six practices.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't see a lot of guys from any level.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a hard transition. I've been saying over
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  Speaker 1: and over last week. I think Quincy Williams will be fine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see a significant drop off
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  Speaker 1: because it's a position where, uh, let's face it, in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Overall that position is importance. Tellas Smith was
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  Speaker 1: overpaid in terms of how the league feels about the position,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of what he meant here for a while,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not so. It's a position where you were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be able as a rookie. UM, run chase. You
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  Speaker 1: have to think very much. You don't have to have
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  Speaker 1: your an incredible knowledge of the playbook. Uh, he can
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  Speaker 1: run and chase and Myles Jack will help him a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see much of a drop
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  Speaker 1: off of that spot. The other two guys that you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, who's stepping in to replace uh the free
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  Speaker 1: safety spot is um. I haven't heard anybody say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we may have an issue there right watching him on
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  Speaker 1: the practice field, he looks like he belongs. And Jeff Swain,
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  Speaker 1: the tight end that they brought in from Dallas, who
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  Speaker 1: again was a I don't wanna say Ben Koyak type,
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  Speaker 1: and in Dallas he was you know, he was the
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  Speaker 1: third tight end. Uh. Well, he sure looks like a
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  Speaker 1: proven veteran and a guy that Nick Foles is developing
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  Speaker 1: a relationship with. All three of those guys are moderately
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  Speaker 1: priced guys who the public won't have a huge expectation
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  Speaker 1: for like they do at Calais Campbell or Jalen Ramsey,
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  Speaker 1: but their participation, their development this year will be critical
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  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars ability to go where they want to go.
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  Speaker 1: Swain is interesting because you didn't sign and be grown um.
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  Speaker 1: You signed him to phill a role. They anticipated that
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to draft a tight end as well, so
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  Speaker 1: when they got Swam in free agency, they thought there
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  Speaker 1: was something else coming in the draft. There right, it's
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  Speaker 1: Josh Oliver. He caught I think it was twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: passes last year for for two or nine yards and
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  Speaker 1: about nine games. You can't always play the multiplication game,
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  Speaker 1: but that shows you that he's at least capable of
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  Speaker 1: being involved with it. Talked to Ron Milton last week,
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  Speaker 1: tight ends coach about the tight ends. He said he
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  Speaker 1: was surprised at swains overall athleticism. He sounded more optimistic
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  Speaker 1: and maybe he thought he would be initially about what
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  Speaker 1: he can contribute in the passing game. One more thought
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  Speaker 1: from from me, at least on big things, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the competition at cornerback. If you have been paying attention,
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  Speaker 1: people have seen Brian Borders make a couple of big
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  Speaker 1: plays and come up with some interceptions. But the other
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  Speaker 1: two guys, but in Meeks who had a pretty solid
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  Speaker 1: day going in London against Billy last year before he
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  Speaker 1: got injured, and Trey Herndon just make play after play
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  Speaker 1: after play. And that is so critical, h for this team.
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  Speaker 1: Not just because last year you played, you know, without
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  Speaker 1: boy A and without d J. Hayden for a time.
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  Speaker 1: So you need those guys to be able to step
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  Speaker 1: into the roles. But long term, you're highly paid at cornerback.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know, almost fifteen and a half million dollars
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  Speaker 1: for boy A and seven for Jalen, but you know
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  Speaker 1: Jalen is gonna go way up next year. You've got
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  Speaker 1: to have these young guys who are showing you signs
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  Speaker 1: of being able to be guys you can count on,
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  Speaker 1: not just getting better, but guys that you and rely
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  Speaker 1: on and if you're paying attention when the second and
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  Speaker 1: thirteen defense is out there, those guys are getting done.
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  Speaker 1: Good teams usually have a rookie free agent or two
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  Speaker 1: that you forget quickly. We're rookie free agents. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's having on the line, uh, Meeks and Herndon
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  Speaker 1: fit that built Yeah, they have to. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: move on with our show and we come back more
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  Speaker 1: got sex on one mover? I'm telling you guarantee we
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  Speaker 1: are Marcel Darius and miked up Earlier this week at
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  Speaker 1: training camp. You can catch the full miked Up feature
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  Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com. And the funny thing with this
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  Speaker 1: is Patrick Kavanaugh shoots these and Marcel Darius forgot he
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  Speaker 1: was miked up. But if you listen to the entire
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  Speaker 1: micd up, he's talking to guys like Tavin Brian and
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen the entire time coaching him up. But at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the practice he goes, oh gosh, I
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  Speaker 1: forgot it was miked up. And this is a live look.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of him Marcel Darius today on the training camp
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  Speaker 1: practice field. He's had a big camp. He's such a
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  Speaker 1: good ball player. Um. You know, people are when's Jon
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: getting here? When's Yon getting here? Um? And Unique and
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  Speaker 1: Gogway is a terrific player, but I'm not. I think
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  Speaker 1: Darius is more critical to the Jaguars defensive line because
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  Speaker 1: he is so dominant inside, strong at the point of attack,
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  Speaker 1: but can push the pocket, which plays to the strength
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  Speaker 1: of a Darius, of a of a Calais Campbell, or
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  Speaker 1: of a uniqu And got Way or Josh Allen in
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to push the quarterback to their side.
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  Speaker 1: Darius is often forgotten when you start talking about the
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  Speaker 1: key playmakers. That was a third overall pick in the
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  Speaker 1: draft and a hundred million dollar guy. He's a hell
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  Speaker 1: of a football player and really played well last year.
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  Speaker 1: And not every third pick in the draft you look
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  Speaker 1: at seven or eight years in and think, well that
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  Speaker 1: that's why you're third pick in the draft because it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work out in Buffalo at the end. I think
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  Speaker 1: people who have forgotten he's done a rare thing and
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  Speaker 1: I talked about it quite a bit. He's come to
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  Speaker 1: a second team and it doesn't really have a second
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  Speaker 1: team feel because like he's been here forever. He's sort
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  Speaker 1: of that guy. That's sort of his personality type too.
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  Speaker 1: I've asked him about he said, Hey, like everybody, it's
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  Speaker 1: not it's not a big deal. But oftentimes when people
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  Speaker 1: come in and there traded free agency come in, there's
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  Speaker 1: there's a chemistry thing. They never really fit. Uh, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's a fact that he knew Doug come in. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's fact with his personality, but he's done a remarkable
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  Speaker 1: job of doing whatever they asked him to do. When
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  Speaker 1: you're around him, he doesn't really act like a star,
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  Speaker 1: meaning there's not a lot of negative off of that,
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of negative off of that in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room period right now. So he's an interesting guy
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  Speaker 1: on that front. They will miss him when that contract
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  Speaker 1: runs out, which you kind of think is going to
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  Speaker 1: happen next year with the with the cap, but for
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  Speaker 1: him to have played it would be two and a
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  Speaker 1: half years on that at the level and given them
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  Speaker 1: what they got, it was an unbelievably good trade to
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  Speaker 1: have pulled off the second best trade and where his history.
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  Speaker 1: If he plays to that level, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the guys. I'll make this prediction. At the end of
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  Speaker 1: this year, people will say, how do we keep Marcel? Right,
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  Speaker 1: maybe some of the same people who are saying pay
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  Speaker 1: Jon whatever he wants, right, and the two are a
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  Speaker 1: contrast in terms, you can't pay him whatever he wants
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  Speaker 1: and then expect um. But dominant defensive tackles, dominant defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackles and the numbers. They're not twelve or fifteen sacks
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  Speaker 1: like Chris Jones in Kansas City, but dominant players like
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  Speaker 1: that man, they're worth their weight in gold. And people
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  Speaker 1: will say, how do we keep him? Because I think
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  Speaker 1: he's got a big year in him and absolutely hilarious
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  Speaker 1: to talk to. You'll see that in make up for sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to ozone snapshot and how you
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: see dun Brown and Tonwashed talking. All right, let's go
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to St. Augustine, Florida and start with Robert. What is
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the possibility of moving right tackle Jowan Taylor over to
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  Speaker 1: tackle if Cam Robinson isn't ready to play and his
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: backups don't perform very well? Oh, zero and zero. We
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: come back to me on the shot. I have an
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: o standing up. But yeah, that won't happen. I understand
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the tendency for it, or I understand the thought behind it,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: because right now he's probably their best healthy tackle. But
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: he's a right tackle. It's what you drafted him to do.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And Uh, I don't see any way in the world
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: they move him. Doug already said in the press conference yesterday,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: that's the only place where he's working. Uh. Two reasons. A,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: he's the best player for the position. Be I don't
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: think there's a whole lot of tendency around here to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: move rookies around, bounce them around and get them let
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: them get good at their one spot before they're going
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to do it at another. I think that's why they're
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: not moving Josh Allen around a whole lot. But in
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the case of Joan Taylor, it's more, this is what
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: this guy is, don't mess with it. So oh is
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a shameless self promoter. He had an Oh, I just
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: have a zero, zero, zero percent chance. Maybe you're the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: zero in terms of ego. Clear I am because he's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: not promoting, but a total zero in terms of percentage
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: chance they drafted into ther right tackle. You don't want
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to take your best right tackle and weaken the right
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: tackle position. By moving him to the left side, it's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: just a non starter. Put him there, let him go.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: You've got Josh Wells, who I think you have mentioned
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: several times has played to a starters level when he's
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: been able to stay on the field. That's the big key.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Will he be able to stay on the field. Um.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: We talked a little bit on a podcast or stay
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: about about Cam Robinson and the thought is that you
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: will likely see him on the practice field when we
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: get back from Baltimore. Although they didn't say that yet,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: you know they wanted he's moving around pretty good and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they want get him on the field in August. They
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: don't want to wait till September and see where he's at.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: And mid August is a pretty normal time frame pretty much.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: If you injured your a c L during the season
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: last year or during a previous season, it's not unusual
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to be cautious in their return during training camp. So
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me as long as it looks like
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he's moving around and think they're being safe. I think
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the bigger issue with Cam then the knee, is how
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: he plays once he gets up to speed. Is he
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: making the improvement that he needed to make the beginning
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: last year, which at the beginning last year he really wasn't.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Just one more note on that um Albert Brewery yesterday
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: or Monday afternoon. In his column on sports strat dot com,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: referred to a league study that was distributed to the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: teams that said that guys coming back from injuries, if
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they were to reinjure it generally did it in the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: first seven to ten days of training exactly. So don't
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: be surprised if you know, holding back camp who again
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: looks like he's moving pretty well, isn't a result of
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: reading that study and saying, let's be really smart about this.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, let's go to Virginia for Thomas's question.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Great job on the All Jaguars top. It brought back
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of great memories as you guys were discussing
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: on the show. I hesitated to include this because it was,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like any credit, it was less about me than it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: was as a group. Um So that was a little
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, the All twenty five, which people
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: have been seen on Jaguars dot com, Brian, you and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I were interviewed for it. So we sat in front
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of a camera and looked good, but beyond that didn't
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: have much to do with it. Credit to the digital
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: team Patrick Havana, Dave began this, Max Hoffman, UH and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Brent Reeber, who him still terribly scared of. UH. But
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's a fantastic series. UH fits perfect with the celebration
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and UH it was time or it UH to acknowledge
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of players, and it does feel like it's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: sort of done a nice job of tying up the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: pass and looking at the Do you know who who
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: has not enjoyed the series? Encard knew you're going there. Yeah,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Keena was not happy that he was seven. I mean
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he kept anyone who has been affiliated with that list,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: or at least he perceived to be affiliate with he
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: has been seven seven. I love that about Keena. He's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: unhappy that he's not number one. He might in I
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: would have had him five, to be honest with, You'll
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: never forget being in Denver and Jimmy catching a long
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: touchdown pass and Keenan on the tape standing in the millfield.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I was wide open. Keena wanted the ball every play
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: top competitor. Love that man and have enjoyed the fact
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that he didn't like being at seven and he wasn't
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: scared to let you know, Um, the jage receivers are
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: in good hands with the guy that's that competitive. Right
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to have a competitive guy like that be a coach, now,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you can't ask for a better coach. All right, let's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: wrap it up with Steve. Can we stop using ten
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: sacks as a measurement for elite? That's like calling every
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: running back with one thousand yards elite, except there's always
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: more ten plus sack guys than one thousand yard rushers.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I think it makes him a great player, but I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: feel like elite is stretching it. Um. Uh. I think
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: he's right, you know, ten is a very good number. Uh.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And this is obviously sort of circled around Unique and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: got way. Um. But it's not fifteen, it's not sixteen.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: It's not dominant. And I think that's sort of what
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: goes back to the conversation around Unique. He is a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: very very very good pass rusher, very good young pass rusher.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Looks like he's gonna be around a long time. But
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I think the reason that it hasn't been a no
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: brainer to pay him, Brian, is that I don't know
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that he is von Miller Khalil Mack dominate the game guy. Uh,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's okay to pay ten sat guy, But how much
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: do you pay him? How much do you structure your
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: team around him? I think that's what they're wrestling with.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And it's a tough question because he's performed. But as
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: he performed to the point where you structure everything around
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that's a different question. So ten sacks is productive in
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: my mind. Okay, he was elite with twelve sacks in
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: seventeen because he had six forced fumbles and I believe
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: five of those became touchdowns. That was an elite level
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: performance in seventeen last year. If you go back and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: look at his sacks, they were nice, they were important,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: but they did not change games. Now, it's not all
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: his fault. For goodness sakes, the ball's got to bounce
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the right way. The offense has got to give you
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a lead in many cases. I asked the Big Key,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's hard to change games when you're behind, and that's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the dilemma they although they did some of that in seventeen. UM.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's a very productive pass rusher and I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: think he's a guy that you should make a fair
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: market offer to but the market setting one and sacks
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: not elite confirmed very productive. Ten sacks is productive. They
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: haven't had enough ten sack guys around here in twenty
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: five years. In fact, you know before seen they had
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: been eleven seasons. Bobby McCrae had been the last guy
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to post ten sacks. So it's not and he did
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that in two thousand and six. So it's not easy
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to do. Um, but to be elite, Yeah, you're looking
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: at fifteen, sixteen, seventeen sacks or six seven you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: forced fumbles that become you know, either touchdowns or momentum
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: changing moments in the game. And um, he did not
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: have any elite elite year last year. Fair enough, All right,
• 25:37
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• 25:40
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• 27:36
  Speaker 1: at the tight end group, Ron Middleton and his tight ends,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and that brings us to some camp battles. And you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: said we're going to have here during training camp, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: my camp battle is with these tight ends. Now it
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: all depends on how many wide receivers the Jaguars keep,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: But my battle is between Ben Koyak and James O'Shaughnessy,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: kind of similar guys. And you brought in Jeff Swain
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: from Dallas during fregency. You drafted Josh Oliver, who's looked
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: great during training camp. You might keep four tight ends,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: but if you have to keep three, deciding between these
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: two pretty similar guys. James O'Shaughnessy I think has the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: edge on athleticism, but similar guys, and I don't really
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: know how they're going to decide between the two well,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I would have given the edge to O'Shaughnessy for his
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: receiving ability. Remember he was in Kansas City with folds
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in for a time, so there is a familiarity the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in fact, I've heard Nick mention him. However, Kayak had
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of big catches on the practice field yesterday,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: so I mean you're seeing him rise to the occasion.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: There's one of them. Kayak is a guy who he's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: made tough catches, remember the touchdown catch at the back
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of the end zone against Buffalo. Big catches. He's a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: solid but unspectacular player. I don't think he has the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: upside of a Jeff Swain and and Swains the guy
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: who came into the league kind of like a Koyak,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you know, to be the second third tight end um
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: but Coats rising to the occasion and giving you all
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: he has. It's gonna come down to special teams at
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that spot. The third tight end is gonna have to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: be a key contry out, a consistent contributor on special teams.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Which one can do it. I think there's a good
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: chance to keep both because it's so important if you're
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: going to have a two tight end set, which which
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: they will to have two guys who can play both uh,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So I think they will lean toward trying to keep four.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Uh the X factor on decisions like this when don't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: talked about competition in the NFL these days, there's rarely
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: competition for starting spots because they spend the whole off
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: season trying to fill the depth chart. It's usually what
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, which is bottom, not bombom the roster,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: but who makes the team um. Often that decision comes
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: down to if we release this guy versus this guy,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: what are the chances they get picked up. Historically they
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: have been able to risk having Kayak out there and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: being able to ring them back. O'Shaughnessy having a little
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: more receiving skill might be more coveted, so that might
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: give James O'Shaughnessy the in terms of that fifty three
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: person cut down. But I think they're both. I'd be
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: surprised if both aren't on the field for the Jaguars
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: during the season. Well, and you can see just watching
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: practice Nick Foles looks for the tight end um. That's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: why I think I think that makes sense. And don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: discount the fact that you could see Koyak in the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: offensive backfield, he's pretty good blocker playing in a fullback
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: role when they when they line up that way. Nick
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Foles has admitted that he automatically looks for the tight
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: end first. So agreed that you're gonna play to his advantages.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: All right, Brian, you have wide receivers as your camp
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: battle trell Prior and tire breathing right, So Prior looks
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to me like a guy who can carve out a rule.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And again for Jaguars fans who've been around for a while,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and Ernest Wilford kind of role in that he's the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: guy who on third and seven has the body to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: get to the marker and push forward reach for the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: big guy. Um for a former quarterback, he certainly understands,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you know, the job that they've given. In the way
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that he plays the game, it's pretty clear he's starting
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to get more reps up the depth chart a little
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: bit with the with the twos. Wouldn't be surprised at
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: all to see him get more maybe with the ones.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Brady is a young guy kind of like Helan Cole
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: who's come out, made some plays, flashed a little bit.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You can see he's got the size, the length. Um,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it's more a contrast. Do you take a young guy
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: there if you're gonna keep a sixth receiver, or do
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you take the better Intorell Prior. It's gonna cost you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. So this live look is is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: showing you those two guys who are going after it together. Um. Again,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: it comes down to special teams who can give you
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: more on special teams. Um, if Brady is gonna make
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it to me, he's more of a of a of
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: a practice squad guy, right. Um. Prior is fighting to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to convince them to have I think John a sixth
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, especially if they're gonna keep four tight ends,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: see what I mean. So they're kind of battling here,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: but it's not as direct. It's more for who's going
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to be that next guy. You know they cut Prior
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: keep the fourth tight end, and then Brady's the guy
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: who comes up if they need him at some point
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: in the season. And a couple of things playing into this,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and Brian, you touched on one. You put Brady on
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the practice squad, and there's more of a chance that
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: if you make that moving or at least Brady, that
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: he's around. Prior has a name, so if there are
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: injuries somewhere else around the league, they would probably look
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to Prior. Okay, let's bringing this guy's got some experience.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: He is an unbelievably large wide receiver. They don't have that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Keenan likes that element because they don't really have that
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: anywhere else. Um. So the other factor here is, you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know this in terms of talking to anybody,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: but there's always the possibility of Marquis Lee still on
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: PUP if he starts the season on POP, which, considering
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the nature of his injury, that would not be un reasonable,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be a huge shock. That will change the dynamic
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of how they look at these two because all of
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a sudden, the receivers move up, at least temporarily. So
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: often when you're talking about the fifty three man roster,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: we all focus on that day, and sometimes it's more, Okay,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: this is what we're doing for that day. We're putting
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: this guy on PUP, We're moving this guy here, and
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it's sometimes really a fifty five fifty six man because
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be able to get certain guys back.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So that's something to watch for because if Marquis is
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: on pup, then I think this, uh, this conversation around
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: these guys, I think I think one of these guys
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: would make the team. All right. Finally, sticking with offensive battles, John,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you have the backup quarterback job, which has become pretty
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: competitive the past few days. Gardner Minshew versus Alex Magoo. Yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and it's probably not fair not to have Tanner Leo
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: on that list because it's been a pretty Um it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: seems like the reps overall between these three has been
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: pretty even with Minshew. I haven't charted at Ryan, but
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it seems like he's getting the most second team rep.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Well that's what we thought when they drafted here and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you heard all of the acco it's coming on the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: third day from Tom and Dave and Doug, and I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: don't have any question that they want him to be
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the reserve of you know, backup quarterback. Uh. But I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: just gonna hand it to him. But he is a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: sixth round pick who's a rookie, not prototypical. Um. I've
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: heard nothing to indicate that his football intelligence isn't there,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that all the things they like are real. On the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: other hand, it out of five practices, I've charted it
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: an interception I think from him at least once, except
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: for maybe one day. I mean, so far, it feels
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like too many interceptions and and too many cases where
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: maybe that prototypical non prototypical arm has haunted him. He
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a very good art. That's five practices, one
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: of them in pads. So I'm not jumping off the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: bridge here yet, but I think this will be more
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of a battle than maybe it felt like coming out
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: of O. T S. I like his aggressiveness. His history
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: shows that from a touchdown to interception ratio, he's pretty good.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: That's college football or not at this level. Um, you
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: know he's a he's a developmental backup. Does that make sense.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: He's not a guy that you're never going to expect
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to start, but he can become a long term backup,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you believe, Um, but developmental? Yeah. Well, none of these
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: three guys right give you any confidence if you lose
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Right, None of these guys step in like
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a Chad Henny did for a time and you say, okay,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: well we can win. This is not a position where
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you just get There are positions. On September one, whenever
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that cut down day is maybe they just get a guy. Yeah,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll be looking for a guy based on what
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: they said backup quarterback anymore. In this league, that's a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: tough ask to go get a guy and say, Okay,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you're gonna play. If I would, I would totally agree.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: But if they don't, if they don't see progress from
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: that shoe. And I said to you yesterday, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Lee hasn't had a bad camp. He's got a whale
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  Speaker 1: of an arm and I've seen him make some great bros.
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  Speaker 1: But and yesterday's makes some really worth sure. Um. The
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: intriguing thing We're gonna get a lot of opportunities over
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the next month to watch these guys. The intriguing thing
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: about Minshew is h football intelligence and all that stuff.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: College is so much slower than the NFL, and there
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: are sometimes I don't know if Gardner fits in this
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: or not, but I covered Danny Warfell back years ago.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Ford best college quarterback I ever saw. I'm personally bias.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I saw him. I didn't have the arm to make
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  Speaker 1: key throws in the NFL, and therefore was despite all
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the intelligence, never could make it because they were just
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: throws that the defenders were going to jump on um.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: That's always the scary thing for non prototype guy. Can
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: gardener ever come that we'll see definitely has the i Q,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the arm could haunt him all right. When
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: we come back, we'll wrap it up with top tweets
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  Speaker 1: I think it's no best corner lead. I love the
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  Speaker 1: top twenty. That had the confidence that he has. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter who he lines up against him, who he
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  Speaker 1: goes against, He's not going to change the way he
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  Speaker 1: plays for anybody for on the top. One lists the
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of top tweets in this new segment, New Segment,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: not new, Jalen Ramsey tweeted out that on his daughter,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: there's no way that twenty six guys are better than him.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Any surprised there that he thinks he should be number one? Well, no, no, no,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: but I was a little surprise he was twenty seven.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I get it, he did not have a statistically um
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I popping year last year, But when you look at
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: him right now, I can't imagine there's twenty six guys
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: that are better than him now. He basically had one
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: game last year, the Coles game. We've all talked about
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it where he you know, just it went, hey, why?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And beyond that, I've gotten a lot of questions this
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: year sort of using the premise of, well, we all
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: know Jalen didn't have a great year last year, but
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: how do you and he was? I'm not sure where
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you come to that conclusion beyond just one year he
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. You know, the postseason honors weren't there,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but postseason honors are often tied into how you do
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Class was fifty four. He wasn't fifty fourth fist player
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in the league. They were five and eleven. Jalen Ramsey seven.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Had the Jaguars been nine and seven, he's probably the
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: top fifteen. It always correlates to that he's uh again.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: He has come back. He's it's an unpadded day there
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and he looks like he's in shoulder pads. He's come
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: back in unbelievable shape. I think he's going to have
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the Corner's always hard to say he's gonna have his
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: best year because you don't know how the stats come.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Because if they throw away, there's no question in my
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: mind that he'll be dominant. He's reached that point where
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I never doubt what kind of year he's going to have. Actually,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you've been to the Kentucky Derby. When you were there,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: could you tell the better horses just by the way
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: they walk. People who know horses can go and stand
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and watch the way horse sweats. He was that's that's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a thoroughbred. And when you watch him be a back
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: pedal walk on a on a football field, you can
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: tell that's the best horse in the field. He's different,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: he is different. He is made different. His body is
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: made to play corner. He has the you know the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: great horses, the American Pharaohs, right are those horses that
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: have a killer instinct. And I've read the book by
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the Jockey and he swore that that horse understood when
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: he was in the last couple of links. Uh. That's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that he understands exactly what to do and how to
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: do it from the practice field to the game field.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: He is as good a football player as there is
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: in football. Now. You may put somebody else number one
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: or number five based on a position they play, but
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that is a thoroughbread right there. I'm gonna disagree with you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: His body was put in this earth to play strong safety,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: which makes it amazing, and I say it's a compliment.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Um Again, what's striking about Jalen right now is the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: physical size. And yet if you stepped back and just
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: watched him, not around anybody else, he moves like a corner,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: which is an unbelievable combination, and he knows it. He
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: has the killer instinct that Michael Jordan's esque instinct about
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: him right now. He's fun to watch and I hope
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans are paying close attention to the way
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that he practices, because it's rare to find a player
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: with all of those skills. But he wasn't here for
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: O T S. He wasn't when tis I've forgotten it's down.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: We'll never even talk about O T A S from
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: this point for we're done with that until it up.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I think Jalen Rampsy doesn't look like he even needs
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. All right, Let's start
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: top tweets with something we knew was coming, Dug Moron's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: comments on Quincy Williams being the fastest on the field
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: right now. Of course D D. Westbrook is going to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: chime in. He tweets out, Coach Moron, you're dead wrong
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: with this. You know I'm the fastest, easy um. D D.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Westbrook has made a big play more than that, made
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: several plays and at least one big play in every
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: practice since training camp opened. If anyone is having the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: best camp, it's him. If the locker room were open today,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I would walk around asking guys if they were the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: second fastest on the team. There's there's nothing better than
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: seeing these guys over that. How do you think? Well?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: And so it's always fine I wish the locker room
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: were open because nobody thinks that they're not the fastest guy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And when the Madden ratings came out, we went back
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and forth between Ddy Westbrook and d J Chark, and
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: DJ Chark actually got a faster rating than Westbrook indeed
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: freaked out and wanted to go raced Dick Shark in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: front of the stadium at that moment, it's the competition.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: You'd like to see it all right? Now, for some
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: fashion trends, it seems like Leonard for Nett is looking
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: in John Osier's closet because he said, I'm rocking my
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: pink visor this year? Which one? Which one? I know
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you have some options that I know he called you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: about this, but he's gonna rock one of yours. I
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: have a striking collection to pink. But but you don't
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: have a pink suit and Joe Fortunado does, so I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: don't think you measure up. Maybe you can get borrow
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Joe suit with the pink visor and that could be
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: your training camp out for tomorrow. I would be rocking.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: All right. Let's wrap it up with a guy that
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: we don't really talk about much. Will Richardson Jr. So
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: it's a Philip Pileman's sweet. But Doug Marone said yesterday
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that from last year to this year, it's night and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: day the improvements that Will Richardson Jr. Has made. We
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: didn't get to see a lot of him last year,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: but he's having a good camp and it's a guy
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: we talked about last year being a good option. Yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I have not seen him can with the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: starters or the backups yet um and that may just
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: be a matter of how they work in the rotation.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see going forward where this
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: ends up. If he's improving, as Doug says, you would
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: think you will see action from him, at least with
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the reserves, because you would think, Brian, that this is
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a year that he needs to make the he needs
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to progress and be on the field or yes, station,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I think you have decide what to do with they
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: have some high priced offensive lineman and they have a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be in a situation next year where they're
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: going to need to let at least one of them,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and so Will Richardson's progress this year isn't necessarily for
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: this year. It's that you've got a guy that you
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: can count on plugging and playing with next year. It
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: gives you the confidence that you don't have to go
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: worry about drafting because this club has decisions to make
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: against the cap every year now with star players. So
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you must have the Trey Herndon's and the Will Richardson's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: progressing and if they're not starting, so that eventually they can.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And you know, last year when they drafted him, they said,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: this is a guy that probably if he hadn't had
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: the off the field issues in North Carolina State, would
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: have been a second round pick. He has that kind
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of size and that kind of athletic ability. Okay, good
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round. Let's see him. They need him,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: they're going to need him. High praise from coach Marrow
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and that's for sure, Yeah, for sure. All right? What
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: am I saying? Bye? Good bye? And coach John D.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Philippo is speaking after practice and be sure to stay
• 46:28
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• 46:32
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