Latest / The Delicious Culture with Jon Francois / Rob Reiner Was Delicious w/ Laura Greenfield
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- 0:03All right, delishies, grab a plate and feast
- 0:05on the delicious culture. I am your host, John
- 0:08Francois. Uh, we're having quite a meal this
- 0:11week. The, the tragic death of Rob and Michelle
- 0:15Reiner. And I wanted a moment to like reflect
- 0:18on their legacy. And I thought who better to
- 0:21do this with than a big fan. of, uh, both of
- 0:26them, especially Rob Reiner, my good friend,
- 0:28Laura Greenfield from my home state of Connecticut,
- 0:32who I've known since 2013. It's like 12 going
- 0:36on years. I know. How can that be? Yeah. We've
- 0:42done public access television. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 0:46Yeah. So that's where we left off kind of. Right.
- 0:49I was in college and now I'm 34. Can you believe
- 0:52it? Unbelievable. I know. Yeah. So Laura and
- 0:56I have done public access TV. We've done community
- 1:01radio together over the course of our 13 year
- 1:06friendship. And yeah, she, she loves Rob Reiner
- 1:09as do I, but I know that you specifically, you
- 1:13grew up with him as he was at the peak of his
- 1:15career. So I feel like. more to say than I do
- 1:18about his legacy and his highlights. First off,
- 1:21to get it out of the way, I think the latest
- 1:22that we know, I think his son Nick was just,
- 1:27he made his court appearance. Oh, did he? Okay.
- 1:31Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so Nick has been charged
- 1:33with murder. It looks like the LAPD is basically
- 1:35saying that the son Nick killed Rob and, um,
- 1:39and Michelle. So that's pretty much confirmed.
- 1:42Yeah, I know. I know. So deep breath. I know,
- 1:46I know, I know. There's a lot that can be said.
- 1:50But what I will say, a lot has been said about
- 1:54Rob. Have you heard much about what Michelle
- 1:58Reiner brought to the table? This encouraged
- 2:01me to do kind of a deep dive into who she was
- 2:04in relation to herself and in relation to her
- 2:06relationship with Rob. I'm not much help there.
- 2:09I don't know. I remember when he was married
- 2:11to Penny Marshall. Yeah. Yeah. And then had their
- 2:15daughter and I thought that was, and I remember
- 2:18Penny Marshall when she was on The Odd Couple.
- 2:21Yeah. Was it Laverne and Shirley? Before that,
- 2:25that came before Laverne and Shirley. She was
- 2:29Myrna, I think what her name was. She was the
- 2:31secretary, Oscar's secretary. Got it. Nothing
- 2:34like that. But she was on there before. Laverne
- 2:38Shirley came out. Yeah. And I know that sort
- 2:41of the trajectory of Rob's love life from his
- 2:43relationship with Penny Marshall, and then he
- 2:45got divorced from her and then he was single
- 2:47for like 10 years. I know that sort of formed
- 2:50the basis of one of his most known movies that
- 2:52he directed when Harry met Sally. I love that
- 2:56movie. I know it's the great and probably the
- 2:58greatest rom -rom -com ever. I'm always like,
- 3:00I'm a scroller. I wish I weren't, but I'm a TV
- 3:03scroller because there's nothing there. So I
- 3:04keep... thinking the more I go, something will
- 3:07appear. And they're really big into showing a
- 3:10lot of 80s movies, the same ones, of course,
- 3:12repeatedly, basically the same or whatever channels
- 3:14that we're getting. We're getting the Breakfast
- 3:15Club ad nauseam and plenty that are absolutely
- 3:19wonderful, whatever movies, but we're seeing
- 3:21them constantly. And what happened? I know when
- 3:25Aramis Alley has been on TV and things like that.
- 3:27And I thought, I wonder now if they're going
- 3:28to start throwing some of these things out there,
- 3:30but it seemed, you know, it's just kind of the
- 3:32same. Like we're stuck in this one particular
- 3:36era of like movies and whatnot. And like, we
- 3:39just kind of bypassed the nineties, I guess,
- 3:41and went on to Marvel. Yeah, I know. It's quite
- 3:45the job. Quite the job. So that's another story.
- 3:47Yeah. But I remember, what's his name? What's
- 3:50his name? But I was going to call him Reiner
- 3:52from All in the Family, too. I was a kid growing
- 3:55up on that. Yeah, in the seventies. And I can
- 3:58remember the whole... No, Archie meeting him.
- 4:01And even as a kid, I may not have understood
- 4:03everything you're talking about, but it was like
- 4:05anybody can get what's going on in the conflict
- 4:08with these two. I loved him because he had the
- 4:10tie -dye t -shirt. That was good with me. So
- 4:12yeah. I would think because all in the family,
- 4:15like you had Archie Bunker, the conservative
- 4:19father. You had his son -in -law played by Rob
- 4:23Reiner, who was the sort of the hippie -dippy
- 4:25anti -Vietnam War person. Yeah. And Rob represented.
- 4:29Yeah. And they just clashed. They couldn't see
- 4:34anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was
- 4:37sort of, God, I would arguably say that that
- 4:39was that that was sort of a precursor to the
- 4:43political discourse that we just have now, where
- 4:47it's like liberal versus conservative and how
- 4:49can we debate our points and get fiery with each
- 4:51other and then somehow kill each other at the
- 4:53end of the day? That's what makes me think of
- 4:56and the difference in the times. Ninety five.
- 5:00was an American president. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 5:02yeah. And the I can't believe I almost used the
- 5:05word discourse. I don't use that ever. That's
- 5:07a terrible thing. You said it. It's such an academic
- 5:09word. It's OK. I just don't normally. But anyway,
- 5:13and what they're talking about and how to be
- 5:15the president and it was so 90s, it was very
- 5:18in that time, very reflective of Clinton and
- 5:21hope and Obama coming up and very positive and
- 5:24getting over the weapons of mass destruction
- 5:27that hadn't been there at all anyway. And this
- 5:30positive thing. And then it was just like, we
- 5:33just kind of, what happened since then? And what
- 5:36are we talking about now? And I don't want to
- 5:39talk about it. It's so stupid. I know, I know,
- 5:41I know. The American president. But he did so
- 5:44in a way that was, you know, you can relate.
- 5:47He put it in a story where, yeah, it's goofy
- 5:49and it's funny and it's, you know, but it was
- 5:52clever. To me, that's just clever and it's a
- 5:55nice way to make something. And then he does
- 5:57the good men, you know, one good man. Yeah, a
- 6:00few good men. So Big Dib, now he's talking almost
- 6:03over 10 years later and that kind of environment
- 6:06and whatnot. So I like that he was, he did different
- 6:09things. He felt a lot and he said what he meant,
- 6:12but he wasn't out there screaming and yelling.
- 6:14He did so quietly. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So
- 6:17let's kind of backtrack and let's maybe give
- 6:20context to, for example, like when Harry met
- 6:23Sally, I know that, like I said, Rob had his
- 6:27relationship with Penny Marshall. He broke up
- 6:29with her and then had that divorce. And I know
- 6:33that the original ending of when Harry met Sally
- 6:35was going to be like Harry and Sally, like they
- 6:36never got together. They would meet like years
- 6:39later and meet. and never see each other again
- 6:42after that, because Rob thought that, okay, you
- 6:46fall in love and then you just don't. You break
- 6:49up and then that was it. But then Michelle came
- 6:52into his life and that relationship blossoms
- 6:55and she was the one that encouraged him to change
- 6:57the ending to that where they have the happy
- 6:59ending, where they go from best friends to lovers
- 7:02forever. The beginning of your knife to start
- 7:05right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beginning. Yeah,
- 7:07yeah, yeah. The thing about when you... When
- 7:13you figure out you want to spend the rest of
- 7:15your life with somebody, you want the rest of
- 7:17your life to start right now. So many. My former
- 7:23husband, that was one that we watched any number
- 7:26of times and we had with any kind of movies,
- 7:28we'd have movie references and something would
- 7:30come up or whatever and we'd quote something
- 7:33from whatever it was. It is like movie reference,
- 7:36what movie blah, blah, blah. Um, and he was good
- 7:40for that, you know, he was he was Yeah, so and
- 7:46uh, have you seen the norah effron movie mixed
- 7:48nuts because I know michelle was in that Oh,
- 7:52really? Yeah. She was yeah i'm finding out like
- 7:54she she was so she was a well -known photographer,
- 7:56uh, she I didn't know she was an actress. I didn't
- 8:01know that so Probably like had a small part in
- 8:04a film. I don't think she was like a real legit
- 8:05Yeah, no, she collaborated with Rob on a few
- 8:10films I know she did some photography work on
- 8:12the movie misery with Kathy Bates. Oh, I can't
- 8:15watch that Oh, is it too terrible? Oh, I'm just
- 8:18too sensitive. No, it's really good. They would
- 8:19just freak me out I mean, all I know is gonna
- 8:21crack him on the knees with a hammer. I can't
- 8:23I can't even I can't Un -experience that yeah
- 8:27Yeah, yeah. It was just too much for me. We don't
- 8:30have to expand on this too much, but Sally was
- 8:33responsible for the cover picture of The Art
- 8:35of the Deal, a book which was kind of spearheaded
- 8:39by our current commander -in -chief. Oh, yeah,
- 8:45yeah, yeah. I don't remember if I made this up
- 8:47or not, but I could have sworn back in the day
- 8:49when my uncle was writing all of these heavy
- 8:53hitter ghost written books. that Trump asked
- 8:56him, and I think he said, no. Oh, really? Yeah.
- 8:59I don't know if that's true or not, but now I'm
- 9:01telling the whole world, but I don't know. I
- 9:03haven't mentioned it. It's okay. I could be totally
- 9:07making it up. It just seems like something from
- 9:10my way prior life that I seem to remember something.
- 9:13Right. Right. So Michelle had a hand in producing.
- 9:16the Albert Brooks documentary on HBO Max, which
- 9:19I highly recommend you see if you have HBO Max.
- 9:22I don't. Because Albert Brooks, I don't know
- 9:24if you know him and Rob, they were high school
- 9:26best friends and Rob directed that documentary
- 9:28and yeah, and Albert, um, also the brother of
- 9:33Bob Einstein, the late Bob Einstein, who was
- 9:36Super Dave, Super Dave Osborne. Oh yeah. Yeah,
- 9:38yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, no, Albert Brooks,
- 9:40I mean, obviously he was just a wonderful, he
- 9:43still is alive. He's a wonderful search comedian.
- 9:46Broadcast news. Yeah, broadcast news. Yep. Yep.
- 9:49He used to do the short films for SNL back in
- 9:51the first season. Yeah, he did a really funny
- 9:56short video where it's like, oh, here's how you
- 9:59can become a clown in clown school or some shit
- 10:01like that. I highly recommend it. It's a great
- 10:03satirical video. Michelle Reiner also produced
- 10:06Spinal Tap 2. Did you see the Spinal Tap or Spinal
- 10:09Tap 2? I can't even believe I haven't seen Spinal
- 10:12Tap, which is... Kind of crazy. But no, it's
- 10:15like, I feel, I mean, I know of it. I know the
- 10:17three guys. I know, you know, I see it around.
- 10:19I just never saw the whole thing. I don't know
- 10:21why. It was one of those. So what's funny is
- 10:24that there are two particular Rob Reiner movies
- 10:27that were shown in my classes back in high school.
- 10:30And I think it was just one of those like dates.
- 10:32Yeah. It was just one of those days off where
- 10:34the teacher didn't want to do anything and they
- 10:36were like, Oh, here's a movie. Yeah, yeah, here's
- 10:41a movie where we could just watch on a day off
- 10:43or maybe you can learn something from it. And
- 10:45I remember my 21st century history class, they
- 10:48showed us, this is Spinal Tap, which pretty much
- 10:50launched the mockumentary format. Right, right,
- 10:53right. Yeah, satirical documentary of this British
- 10:55pop rock band. And then a science class, and
- 10:59this was probably unrelated to science. I think
- 11:01the teacher, it was just like the end of the
- 11:02semester and he wanted a day off. He showed us
- 11:05the Princess Bride, which... I wasn't into Princess
- 11:08Bride wasn't my cup of tea, but I'll go hard
- 11:11any day. I didn't expect it to be. And I was
- 11:15surprised that I did. I liked it. And then I
- 11:17went to watch it another time and I was like,
- 11:19no, once was enough. Yeah. Fantasy is not my
- 11:21cup of tea. But just because, you know, Billy
- 11:25Crystal is so funny doing the thing. Yeah. And
- 11:27I'll watch. I'll watch the things. I'll tape
- 11:30things, even if they're commercials or whatever,
- 11:32just so I can fast forward and see the parts
- 11:33I want. Right. Reasonable enough, reasonable
- 11:37enough. I know that Michelle Reiner also helped
- 11:41produce, there was a Christian nationalism documentary
- 11:45that Rob did like two years ago called God in
- 11:48Country. And I heard, The podcast interview he
- 11:50did where he promoted that on Armchair. Yeah.
- 11:53Yeah. So I know, I know Michelle helped him produce
- 11:55that. Um, and then there's much that can be said
- 11:57about the political activism that they did together.
- 11:59I mean, they essentially founded the American
- 12:02foundation for equal rights, which, uh, was sort
- 12:05of foundational and eventually like leading into
- 12:07marriage quality being a law of the land and
- 12:10the Supreme court. So, yeah, I just, I don't
- 12:12know. I just want to give that brief shout out
- 12:13to Michelle because I know a lot can be said
- 12:15about Rob and what he's doing. It's all valid.
- 12:18But Michelle also contributed to both his legacy
- 12:21and to her own. So yeah, there's that. He doesn't
- 12:24succeed like that if this marriage thing isn't
- 12:26working. So something has to be okay. That's
- 12:29my feeling. A man is nothing without his woman
- 12:33says. No, I didn't say that. I'm saying if you
- 12:36know, if you're all stressed out and it's not,
- 12:38you know, maybe some people like to work under
- 12:41chaos. I don't know. I think I used to, but not
- 12:44anymore. I'm just too tired. That's enough. I
- 12:48just, peace. Peace is my goal. Yeah. So let's
- 12:52talk a little bit about All in the Family because
- 12:55I remember watching a few episodes back in, I
- 12:57don't know, high school. And it's one of those
- 13:00shows that will be talked about forever because
- 13:02of course, Norman Lear... was wonderful in saying,
- 13:06all right, let's take this tried and true format
- 13:08of the sitcom and let's use it to expose what's
- 13:10actually going on in America. The 70s, much like
- 13:13the 60s, were a pretty tense time. We had a Vietnam
- 13:16War going on. We had women's rights. Just take
- 13:19your pick. A lot of the stuff that's relevant
- 13:21today, we're especially relevant. Equal rights
- 13:27was a bad thing. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:29Yeah, cuz I know the right amendment that did
- 13:31not get passed It was attempted back in the 70s
- 13:34because they were afraid This is this is what
- 13:36they were saying at the time was because then
- 13:38you'd have to use the same bathrooms and we can't
- 13:40have that boy Yeah, this has been the biggest
- 13:43fear of democracy and equality in our countries
- 13:46who's gonna use what bathroom? Yeah. Yeah, but
- 13:50Yeah. Talk to me a little bit about like your
- 13:53personal experience growing up, watching all
- 13:57in the family. Cause it was my God. I think the
- 14:02either one of the early episodes or the first
- 14:04episode kind of opens with Archie reading a newspaper
- 14:07item about all these Vietnam war protesters.
- 14:10And he's saying they should all be shot dead.
- 14:12And then, you know, meatheads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 14:14Meathead is like, well, this is an illegal and
- 14:16immoral war. So I understand them protesting.
- 14:18It's just this back and forth where it's like,
- 14:20oh, wow. And it was loud. It was just loud. It
- 14:24just kept rising and rising. So for you growing
- 14:29up in the 70s, did you enjoy that? Were you overwhelmed
- 14:31by that? What was your reaction to watching that
- 14:33as you were growing up? I don't know. I don't
- 14:35remember what it was. It's something in that
- 14:37exact era when this is on TV. That's going on
- 14:40because I would be in the kitchen with my mom
- 14:42and we had a radio in there and we're listening
- 14:44to it. I guess the news came on and about war
- 14:48or something like that. And I asked her a question
- 14:51or something, and I think she said something
- 14:53about Vietnam. And I said, well, I just hope
- 14:56I'm not alive during a war time and not knowing
- 15:01this was going on at that time. But then I would
- 15:04see, because we don't have the visual. It's like
- 15:07really hard for anybody that has grown up post
- 15:112000 or anything to imagine that. We have one
- 15:14TV in the house and it has three channels and
- 15:18two independent channels. And you have to get
- 15:20up and change that channel. Nobody has a remote,
- 15:23nobody has a cable. The only cable was in Florida
- 15:25and it got the weather channel. And that was
- 15:27the bad end. And it sounds like this is completely
- 15:29ancient time, but it didn't feel like it. You
- 15:31know, everything was in color. We had everything.
- 15:33We had big wheels. We had a lot, but it's, it's,
- 15:37I just knew, I don't know if I knew exactly what
- 15:38they were talking about. I just knew this, this,
- 15:40this just is. I didn't know if it was hatred
- 15:45or just anger or just both or what was going
- 15:47on, but it was just always this men blowing up,
- 15:50women trying to calm down, calm down. And everything
- 15:56that came from the whole Sammy Davis kisses him
- 16:00on the cheek was those kinds of moments. That's
- 16:03just it. That was just like history. Yeah, Sammy
- 16:06Davis kissing Archie Butler on the cheek. Yeah,
- 16:09black man kissing a white man on the cheek. Incredible.
- 16:12just to get them and you're all rooting at the
- 16:14time, even as a kid, I'm going, I'm clapping
- 16:16and laughing and knowing that was somehow a good
- 16:18thing. Yeah. But it was, it was sad. And then
- 16:22it got carried and get like the Arthur came from
- 16:25all in the family. And then Mod was one of the
- 16:28spin -offs. I just recently saw an episode about
- 16:32bipolar and her talking about that. I didn't
- 16:35know who knew. I didn't know, but again, that's
- 16:37what you're talking about. Cause I was watching
- 16:38that too. Yeah. Norman Lear shows did not shy
- 16:41at all. Yeah. And as it pertains to Rob, he obviously
- 16:46had a lot of the same issues, but in this softer,
- 16:50gentler way. With the movies that he subsequently
- 16:53directed. Yeah, it wasn't even a face screen
- 16:55kind of thing. I just think he, I don't know.
- 16:57Yeah. You take a movie like Stand By Me, for
- 16:59example, that really deals with a certain coming
- 17:01of age and the difficulties of, you know, emotions
- 17:04and growing up as a child and the relationship
- 17:06that you have with your parents and stuff like
- 17:08that, something like that. Obviously when Harry
- 17:10met Sally, there's, you know, the trajectory
- 17:13of, you know, getting to know this member of
- 17:15the opposite sex and then you become best friends
- 17:17and... romance and this and that. And the American
- 17:20president, I mean, the scandal, the tensions
- 17:24that can come from running the Oval Office. That
- 17:26was a precursor to the West Wing, pretty much,
- 17:28because I know Aaron Sorkin wrote that script
- 17:30that Rob Reiner directed. Oh, right, right. Yeah,
- 17:33yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. A few good men.
- 17:36I mean, you can't handle the truth. Every time
- 17:39it comes on, I watch it. And there it is. I'll
- 17:42stop every time and just tune into wherever it's
- 17:44at, because it's so good. Yeah, listening to
- 17:47everything and the lyrics of the dialogue and
- 17:52just the courtroom itself and the wood and the
- 17:54shots on it. And it's just so, so amazingly put
- 17:58together. And it's like, I just feel it and I
- 18:01hate how it sounds all old, but they're not making
- 18:03them like that or not. Not that kind of an interesting
- 18:08thought kind of people aren't driving cars off
- 18:11of buildings movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's.
- 18:16And he did both those kinds of those sweet romantic
- 18:19comedies and then he died in, you know, that
- 18:21style. And I like, you know, maybe he did both
- 18:24equally as well. Yeah. And I think when he was,
- 18:26when Rob, Rob Reiner was in all of the family,
- 18:29I think especially as the show got big and was
- 18:31number one for like five years, 40 million people
- 18:33watching at night, there was this perception
- 18:35that, oh crap, I'm going to be boxed in as an
- 18:37actor. And I remember him talking in interviews
- 18:39about like how for the longest time he wanted
- 18:41to be a director to be able to have that chance.
- 18:46And then I think it wasn't until 1984 that he
- 18:49started directing with this as Spinal Tap. Yeah,
- 18:52I don't remember seeing him in anything after.
- 18:54on the family, other than spots in his own movies.
- 18:57Yeah. He was committed to the vision of being
- 18:58behind the scenes and directing. I mean, I can
- 19:01see that. I can imagine. Yeah. It's actually,
- 19:03he wanted to be like his dad, Carl Reiner, in
- 19:06the sense of like, all right, I want to be sensual
- 19:08in the behind the scenes creative process of
- 19:10it all. As Carl Reiner created the Dick Van Dyke
- 19:13show, he was part of the legendary Your Show
- 19:16of Shows with Sid Caesar, which was, I think,
- 19:20the first of its kind in terms of satirical sketch
- 19:22comedy. Yeah. Right, right. Um, yeah, yeah. There's
- 19:25a heartwarming thing where Rob told his dad that
- 19:29he wants to change his name and his dad is like,
- 19:33Oh crap. Okay. I guess you want to change your
- 19:35last name. And Rob was like, no, I want to change
- 19:37my name to Carl, which is his dad's first name.
- 19:40So he really, really committed to. observing
- 19:43his dad writing, directing, like really being
- 19:46a part of the creative process of television
- 19:48and film and wanting to be like that. And that
- 19:51is in stark contrast to what was going on with
- 19:54his son, Nick Reiner, who seems to, it seems
- 19:58like someone who's struggling with an identity
- 20:01crisis. was trying to figure out himself under
- 20:05the big shadow of his dad. And then I can't imagine.
- 20:10I don't know what that's like. Yeah. Yeah. I
- 20:11mean, yeah, obviously much has been said about
- 20:13his drug addiction and his homelessness. So who
- 20:16knows what? Well, no matter what, I mean, there's
- 20:20just, you know, that's just too sad. It is one
- 20:23thing to hate your parents. It's another thing
- 20:24to eat. It's another thing to murder them, Laura.
- 20:27Yeah. But even stabbing versus a gun. I mean,
- 20:32you'd have to stand back and it's not as up close
- 20:34and personal. I mean, that's some, gotta be some
- 20:37rage or whatever taking over. And that's just
- 20:39was that, I don't know. I can't help think that,
- 20:42but that's just, I don't know. All we know is
- 20:46what bits of information we get from the news.
- 20:49So to me, it sounds like Rob and Michelle were...
- 20:53Very loving parents, like any parent, like they
- 20:57see that their son is struggling and they want
- 20:59to do all that they can to get him help. You
- 21:03know, with parents that are very protective,
- 21:06that can sometimes be to a fault. Sometimes you
- 21:08just kind of got to let go and say, all right,
- 21:10your, your kid has all the tools, they're grown.
- 21:13And, and if they can't help themselves, then
- 21:16there's not much you can do. So I think there
- 21:18was that. It seems like they're. Yeah. Yeah.
- 21:23Like for example, simplify, but really there's,
- 21:26you know, so a deck. So this keeps getting talked
- 21:29about in articles, but a decade ago, uh, Rob
- 21:32directed a movie that I think Nick Reiner wrote.
- 21:35It was like a semi autobiographical film about
- 21:39his struggles. And all you have to do is just
- 21:41see an interviews. that Rob and Nick did promoting
- 21:44the movie together that there seems to be this
- 21:47sort of tense disconnect. Like Rob, like he's,
- 21:51he's just his usual charismatic personality.
- 21:53He'll say like, Oh, this is what we learned.
- 21:55And, and I feel like I better understand my son
- 21:58and the process of this movie. And I can kind
- 22:01of tell. by the way Nick is saying it, I can
- 22:05imagine the kid shrinking away. Yeah. Because
- 22:09he's larger than life and he's handling his questions
- 22:12as he always has. Yeah. And this is for me, this
- 22:15is what I learned and whatever as opposed to
- 22:18kind of turning it to him, which it really should
- 22:20be. Give him a shot. Let him try. Like Nick,
- 22:25like Nick is telling his story, but it's obviously
- 22:27under like the large presence of like interrupts
- 22:30like me. I understand. And then I have to catch
- 22:34myself. Sometimes I got, oops, I'm sorry. Yeah.
- 22:37Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's just, it's,
- 22:41it's a very conflicting. It as with most parent
- 22:45and child relationships, it's, it could be very
- 22:48complicated when it comes to. the parent and
- 22:51the child not hearing each other out, the child
- 22:53especially struggling at things that the parent
- 22:56wants to understand and solve, but maybe cannot.
- 22:59Yeah. You can't fix them. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and,
- 23:03and did you hear about like, um, I think the
- 23:07night before the murder, Rob, Michelle and Nick
- 23:10were at Conan O 'Brien's holiday party. I'm,
- 23:13I look, and maybe you don't know this much about
- 23:15Conan, but he's already had a terrible past year
- 23:18already, because I think at the end of 2024,
- 23:22going into 2025, both his parents died within
- 23:24a week of each other, within a week. And then
- 23:27his house was one of the many that got affected
- 23:29by the Los Angeles fires earlier this year. So
- 23:33I can only imagine like Rob and Nick, they're
- 23:36arguing very loudly at this party. And of course,
- 23:39Rob is like leaving cause Nick is just being
- 23:41weird around people and you know, privacy and
- 23:44Nick is just like staring at them and all that
- 23:46stuff. you, they all leave. And then the next
- 23:51day you read in the paper that like, oh crap,
- 23:53like Robin Scheller no more. And Nick is allegedly
- 23:56responsible for it. I was also thinking about
- 23:59Conan in that respect. Cause it's like, shit,
- 24:00like it's not, it's already enough that you've
- 24:03had the year that you've had. It's kind of over
- 24:06the top. Yeah. It's, it's a lot. It's a lot.
- 24:09But, um, have you rewatched anything of Rob Reiner's
- 24:12anything he directed ever since the news came
- 24:14out? No, I have. I'm trying to think. I have.
- 24:18at least a couple of things on DVR. I have the
- 24:21president, the American president, and yeah,
- 24:24and a few good men, at least, I think. And I
- 24:27do. And even if it's not on, I do watch it again
- 24:30and again. I try not to. But I haven't I I've
- 24:34been scrolling and I haven't seen anything coming
- 24:37on yet, which is surprising me. What isn't, which
- 24:40is almost a little overkill is on YouTube, which
- 24:43I love. I spent tons of time there. I learn all
- 24:45kinds of quick little five -minute things about
- 24:48whatever. I'm very careful about what I click,
- 24:50because I don't want to get 7 ,500 new things
- 24:53on the one thing I was interested in for $30.
- 24:55You will regardless, Laura. Exactly. I know.
- 24:59Before I do, I think hard. As you're scrolling,
- 25:04you have the three in a row, and I feel like
- 25:06it's a slot machine, because everywhere I'm looking
- 25:08and everything is something of Rob Reiner, Rob
- 25:11and Michelle. Of course. And I get it, but it's
- 25:15like overkill much. I mean, you know, just because
- 25:20there's a part and it's like, I, if we can take
- 25:23something from it and learn from an intensely
- 25:26horrible, tragic situation, which it is, it's
- 25:30a tragedy. I mean, the kids got whatever is wrong
- 25:32with them for whatever reason. That's the bottom
- 25:34line. For whatever reason, it wasn't able to
- 25:38be healed, contained, modified, managed, whatever,
- 25:41and this is what happened. The only thing that
- 25:44we can hope to get is to prevent it again, can
- 25:48we? Nobody knows. I feel insulted after a while.
- 25:51Not insulted, but after a while, it's just like,
- 25:54Jesus, leave it alone. Don't try and dissect.
- 25:57Every single, okay, in 30 minutes before, and
- 26:00this happened in this year, and this happened
- 26:02in this year. Yeah, the detail minute by minute
- 26:03of what happened. The people really shouldn't
- 26:06need to know all that much. It's personal. As
- 26:09a fan, of course, you're interested and you want
- 26:11to know and whatever, but it's just kind of,
- 26:14and there's been so much. There's been so much
- 26:16all year anyway. That's a lot. Honestly, I just
- 26:19prefer to see a little more prayer than my nosiness.
- 26:22Hey, I mean - That's me. What I will say, the
- 26:26positive coverage we've seen, I mean, the amount
- 26:28of people that have left flowers on Rob's Hollywood
- 26:30Walk of Fame. Yeah, I mean, that's nice. Of course.
- 26:34Yeah, yeah. And look, maybe it might be overkill.
- 26:37I wouldn't mind if, say, Turner Classic Movies
- 26:40did, like, a day of all Rob Reiner moments. Yeah,
- 26:43that's appropriate. And they kind of did that
- 26:46when Robert Redford, who I'm, like, still lost
- 26:50without. Oh shoot, it was something about that
- 26:54woman I'm saying? I don't remember. No, it's
- 26:57okay. I want, I want when Harry met Sally, I
- 27:00want misery. I wanted to get to a point where
- 27:02- Yeah, I really want when Harry met Sally again.
- 27:04Come on, bring it out. Yeah, I watched that back
- 27:06in college and this was already like well after
- 27:09the movie had came out. I think at that point,
- 27:11the movie was like 20 years old and - Came out
- 27:14in 88, I think. No, no, 98? Are you kidding me?
- 27:17No, it came out in - 80 89 okay well i said 88
- 27:20that was close no no you said okay you said 98
- 27:22and then you said 88 i said 88 okay no no you
- 27:25first said 98 and then you said 88 i remember
- 27:27i i heard you okay well it was i misspoke that's
- 27:31not what i meant it's okay it's okay i know i
- 27:33know what you mean yeah we could have another
- 27:34lesson on the movies of 98 if you want but that'd
- 27:37be our next story But no, no, I mean, I think,
- 27:40I just, for someone like me back in college,
- 27:44and how I was when I was younger, I was sort
- 27:47of - No, I know where you were back in college.
- 27:48I would say for as long as I can remember, I
- 27:52was always like in love with the idea of being
- 27:54loved. I was sort of a romantic at heart. Sometimes
- 27:56to an unhealthy fault. You know that. So when
- 28:02Harry Met Sally was just like right up my alley
- 28:04when it happened, because I always wanted that
- 28:06like, oh my God, we started off as best friends
- 28:08that can talk about anything and then we became
- 28:10lovers. In reality, it doesn't always work out
- 28:14that way and that's fine. I met my wife on a
- 28:17dating app and here we are five, six years later,
- 28:19it's great. But when Harry Met Sally, I just
- 28:22watched that for the first time back in college
- 28:23and I just remember being like, oh, that's going
- 28:26to be my woman's story. We had it on VHS Yeah,
- 28:34I want their dream partner to loudly fake an
- 28:38orgasm in a restaurant and then have some old
- 28:40lady say I'll have what she's having Afterwards
- 28:42like who wouldn't want that and the old lady
- 28:44was his mother. Yeah. Yeah Estelle Ryder Yeah,
- 28:47Carl's wife Carl's wife. Absolutely. Oh my god
- 28:51Yeah, and then they brought that back for the
- 28:54Super Bowl. They brought what back that that
- 28:57That scene in the commercial, they had a commercial
- 29:00with Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal this year during
- 29:03the Super Bowl was a thing on, it was for Manny's,
- 29:06Hellman Manny's, I think. Yeah. Did you know
- 29:09they both weren't the first choice for those
- 29:11roles? I think maybe it was, I think like Tom
- 29:14Hanks was considered for it, which makes sense
- 29:16because I know Tom Hanks did like a string of
- 29:18romantic comedies in the 90s with Meg Ryan. Including
- 29:21when Sleepless in Seattle, which Rob Reiner appeared
- 29:24in. Yes. And I always picture that, the scene
- 29:27with the two of them walking down the street
- 29:28and they're talking about their butts. Rob Reiner
- 29:33says, how's mine? And he goes, all right, I guess.
- 29:36That's so funny. Speaking of butts, I know that
- 29:39there was plenty shown in The Wolf of Wall Street,
- 29:41which Rob Reiner also appeared in, to connect
- 29:44that together. I started to watch that and I
- 29:47couldn't take it. I'm like, how long? Is this
- 29:48going to go on for four hours? I can't do it.
- 29:50Well, Laura, it's Martin Scorsese. Four Hours
- 29:53is probably considered a short movie. That's
- 29:56true. Uh, but yes. Yeah. A lot of nudity, a lot
- 30:00of cocaine and four hours of that is Wolf of
- 30:03Wall Street. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right.
- 30:06It's a good movie. I recommend it. But if you
- 30:07don't have a three or four hours to spare, I
- 30:09understand you're not. Yeah. It's just not good.
- 30:11Well, I won't make it. I can't even watch it.
- 30:13I mean, I don't watch anything. I know this kind
- 30:16of thing has hurt my attention span in a huge
- 30:18way. I didn't have the grade to begin with, but
- 30:20now because everything gets shorter and shorter
- 30:22and shorter, if I don't see it in like minutes,
- 30:24well, what's your point? Get out. What is it?
- 30:27Yeah. Yeah. Our movie is amazing for me anymore.
- 30:31But now everything is like three hours and more.
- 30:34They just kind of keep making them longer. Wait,
- 30:36wait, wait. Okay. Okay. You know what? I don't
- 30:38know how familiar you are with streaming services,
- 30:40but a lot of stuff is like 90 minutes now. If
- 30:44you, if you look at the streamers. Well, yeah,
- 30:46that's the streamer thing, but that's a financial
- 30:47thing and that's another story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 30:51Yeah. Every now and then you'll, you'll get the
- 30:52two or two plus hour movie, but like. I'm seeing
- 30:56a lot of 90 minute movies these days. Anyway,
- 30:58uh, can we go back to tushies for a second? Go
- 31:01right ahead. No, I forgot about it. No, we had.
- 31:08Oh, Rob Reiner grabbed Mary Tyler Moore's butt.
- 31:12Have you heard that story? Oh, so this was a
- 31:15story that he often told. So, um, Yeah. Yeah.
- 31:19Yeah. Yeah. So Rob was a teenager when his dad,
- 31:22Carl was like producing the Dick Van Dyke show
- 31:24and you got to imagine like when the hormones
- 31:26are bubbling as a 14 year old, you see, you see
- 31:28like a 25 year old Mary Tyler Moore and Capri
- 31:30pants and you're in the Tushy. Yeah. Yeah. So
- 31:33Rob had a moment, which is, which now obviously
- 31:36doesn't hold up where he grabbed Mary Tyler Moore's
- 31:39Tushy. Of course, Mary Tyler Moore was unpleasantly
- 31:42surprised. She reports that to Carl. Carl is
- 31:45telling Rob like, Hey, don't do that again. And
- 31:48then I think like years later for like a Dick
- 31:49Van Dyke reunion special, Rob and Mary were amusingly
- 31:52talking about that situation. And I guess, I
- 31:56guess out of a joke, like Rob grabbed Mary's
- 31:58tush again as they were much older. And Mary
- 32:01is said in response jokingly, Oh Rob, which is
- 32:05like a reference to her character with Dick Van
- 32:08Dyke on the Dick Van Dyke show. Hey, Dick Van
- 32:13Dyke is a hundred years old. I know that's really
- 32:16cool. I'm so glad. I was a little concerned because
- 32:19they, because last year they were making a big
- 32:21deal out of it. And you make this big huge deal
- 32:23when he's 99. I'm sorry. I just don't want you
- 32:26to jinx it, please. Yeah. Um, so someone asked
- 32:30him like, what role would he like to play? And
- 32:33I don't think it's out of reason. He wants to
- 32:35play Scrooge. I know. I think I can absolutely
- 32:39see that. I saw that too. Yeah. And that's the
- 32:42easiest thing to qualify for. Just be an old
- 32:44man and stop smiling so much. Yeah. Can you call
- 32:48Dick Van Dyke and have him come on the podcast
- 32:50so we can interview him? If I could, I would.
- 32:54Cause what I, cause I want to live till a hundred.
- 32:56So there's that. And also you want to live to
- 33:02be over a hundred. Is that what you said? I had
- 33:04an aunt, I had a great aunt that lived to be
- 33:06a hundred. Oh, like, like she died at a hundred
- 33:09or does she go over a hundred? I think she went
- 33:11over. I'm pretty sure she made like to 101 or
- 33:14maybe two tops. I was in Florida at the time,
- 33:16but I came up here for her hundredth birthday.
- 33:19And the stories that I always hear from these
- 33:21people that turn 100. What's your secret? Oh,
- 33:23I had, I had a glass of wine and raw butter every
- 33:26day. Yeah. Barbecue and yeah. Yeah. It's always
- 33:32like the weirdest fucking, I had raw eggs and
- 33:34a piece of chocolate every day. No, she worked.
- 33:40This is my thing. She and between my grandmother.
- 33:43I don't know. The legend has it, and she was
- 33:45short of the minute. She was a short little lady.
- 33:47Legend has it she never got married. She was
- 33:48a model in New York at 411 or something. I don't
- 33:52know. Well, they were shorter then. But by the
- 33:56time I know her, of course, she's old. But she
- 34:00had a maternity store that she ran. I used to
- 34:04walk to it all the time and go. hang out there
- 34:06and, and she would give me clothes, which of
- 34:08course was ridiculous because they're maternity
- 34:10clothes and they're huge. And I'm a little, little
- 34:12child, but I love to watch her help the people.
- 34:15And she wouldn't, she had a bulletin board with
- 34:17pictures of the babies and the mommies and all
- 34:19these people. And then come back and give her
- 34:21cookies and whatever. It was awesome. And I just
- 34:24think that that kept her going forever. I don't
- 34:26know. I don't know how old she was when she stopped,
- 34:28but I know. She kept it going a long time. I
- 34:32don't know. Maybe in close to 90. I don't know
- 34:34for sure. I think like when I see people like...
- 34:38Love what she was doing, you know, so. Yeah,
- 34:40yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, those kind of people,
- 34:43you know, people like Dick Van Dyke who lives
- 34:45that long. My main thing, especially like seeing
- 34:48like the exuberant spirit that he has in his
- 34:50personality, I always get a little bit morbid
- 34:52in my head because I think, wow, like literally
- 34:54all of your peers are... gone. Like you, you're
- 34:58one of the few of your generation left standing.
- 35:01And I know you have, you have younger family
- 35:03members. I get that, but I don't know. I just
- 35:06always wonder if there's sort of a sense of melancholy,
- 35:10a sense of like deep reflection when you're living
- 35:12that long. And then you see all the people that
- 35:15you came up with or worked with or whatever,
- 35:17just gone. Like, I guess that's just what I wonder
- 35:21when. I've had these things. I'm not at that
- 35:27age, but I am seeing the people that I grew up
- 35:31adoring, whether in movies or music or this or
- 35:34whatever, a lot of them are going back, it seems.
- 35:39The other half are still 80 years old and they're
- 35:41touring, so I can't figure out exactly how, but
- 35:43that's probably amazing and awesome. Clapton
- 35:47might really be God, I'm just kidding. 80 Ringo's
- 35:51out there 80. There's just like that whole thing.
- 35:54You know people that you wouldn't think would
- 35:55have lasted Yeah, he's rich. You're talking about
- 35:59Paul McCartney still around list all of us. Um
- 36:02But I just think the only thing I can get is
- 36:05that it just is the spirit and you have to find
- 36:07it You have to find you can't it can't just be
- 36:10he's got it because he has everything and so
- 36:13he's so happy They make it and just it doesn't
- 36:15mean having everything. It means how many of
- 36:17a lot of the really The ones that the Centurions,
- 36:21they're very poor. They're not rich people that
- 36:24live to be these ages. They live on very low
- 36:27means and they know how it is to be okay with
- 36:30all that and to get by. That's kind of how I
- 36:33see it. And saying Dick Van Dyke, you know, why
- 36:35does he make it? I mean, who makes people smile
- 36:37more? And while he's, you know, while he misses
- 36:40people, he may miss people and friends. He has
- 36:42this, this is what it looks like to be in a wonderful
- 36:45relationship with his wife and this huge family.
- 36:47Yeah. You know, you can't go there. You have
- 36:50to look back with gratitude. And it's a, it's
- 36:53a, it's a Dr. Seuss paraphrase, which is the,
- 36:57you know, don't be, don't be sad because it's
- 37:00over, be happy because it happened, but it's
- 37:03really true. It really, you have to be, I mean,
- 37:06every cliche after that. Do you think Rob Reiner
- 37:08would have lived until a hundred had he not gone
- 37:11out the way he did? I don't know. How old was
- 37:14he? He was like 78. A long time away. I mean,
- 37:20my first instinct is why not? As far as the spirit
- 37:24and if he's happy and you're positive and you're
- 37:26going that way, that's great. It doesn't mean
- 37:28life isn't hard and that whatever, but you keep
- 37:31going, get up every day. I don't see why not,
- 37:34but it seems like more people are doing it, but
- 37:37it's hard for me to imagine. I've seen it done.
- 37:42And even my aunt, to be honest, said a hundred
- 37:43wasn't really, you didn't really want to see
- 37:45it. It was kind of a sad hundred. Now he's, he's
- 37:48more of a, I can still move and I can move around
- 37:51and it wasn't. And there are, that's a different
- 37:53story. I don't want to be here just to be here.
- 37:55T -47 is when Rob Reiner would have been 100.
- 37:59Yeah. I w I think I would have been 56 years
- 38:01old by the time he's 100. Just to give you perspective.
- 38:05Wow. I just thought you brought up Mary Tyler
- 38:07Moore's show. I just saw the, I just saw the.
- 38:09The last episode the other day. I just happened
- 38:12to catch it as I'm whatever With the whole and
- 38:15it was like the end and and I'll miss you most
- 38:18of all scarecrow. Yeah Also, also a wonderful
- 38:22watch for my college days. I watched the entire
- 38:24series. Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah He's I wanted
- 38:27that hair. I wanted to flip that hair. My mom
- 38:30put those paint Rollers in my head. Yeah, sleep
- 38:33on him at her Yeah, well, so she she had her
- 38:36bit particular style and sense of humor at the
- 38:38big bad night show to the Mary Tyler Moore show
- 38:40with all of her hairstyles and Be fitting of
- 38:43that time wearing the capris those on dick Van
- 38:47Dyke That was like a moment in history fashion
- 38:50history or on TV at that time I hate to be morbid
- 38:54again. Sometimes when I think of the Mary Tyler
- 38:57Moore show and the cast and everything like that,
- 38:59it's just like, Oh God, nobody from that cast
- 39:01is alive now, but he's gone. I know. I do. It's
- 39:05just weird to think about because like, I know
- 39:07it makes sense. It's 50 years ago, but at the
- 39:09time it was black and white TV. So put that in
- 39:12reference. That was even before color. Well,
- 39:14Dick Van Dyke was black and white. Mary Tyler
- 39:16Moore was color. Yeah. That was, but if Van Dyke
- 39:19was, was black and white where that's all start.
- 39:21So that's just bizarre. But no, no, I mean, I
- 39:28think from the Dick Van Dyke show cast, Dick
- 39:29is the only one that's still alive from that
- 39:31entire group. The one that I was feeling sad
- 39:33for was, was Mel Brooks, because he's like the
- 39:36last one of his crew. I forgot. Yeah. I think
- 39:38he just turned on 102. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, no,
- 39:42because he had a very close friendship with Rob's
- 39:44dad, Carl. Right. The Carl Reiner. I remember,
- 39:47cause, um, Jerry Seinfeld, when he did the Comedians
- 39:51in Cars Getting Coffee show and he had his guest
- 39:53on Mel Brooks, he visited the apartment of Mel
- 39:56Brooks where him and Carl had a ritual of watching
- 39:58Jeopardy and their later years together. Like
- 40:00they were really close friends. Oh yeah. Same
- 40:02thing with Mel. It's like Carl passed away like
- 40:05five years ago. And I just wonder like who's
- 40:08Mel's Jeopardy friend now. You should be the
- 40:10Jeopardy friend. Oh, I'm the worst. I should
- 40:12be his Jeopardy friend. Yeah. I could be the
- 40:16Jewish Jeopardy friend. Yeah. That knows nothing.
- 40:19What's that? No, no, I was just going to say
- 40:21Judd Apatow is producing a Mel Brooks documentary.
- 40:23So that's going to be awesome to see. Oh, cool.
- 40:26Yeah. I mean, there was already one produced,
- 40:28but Judd is going to do a different one, I guess.
- 40:32That's cool. He was married to Anne Bancroft.
- 40:37And at first, on the outside, looking in, you
- 40:40know, I mean, I just think of hers. She is just,
- 40:42you know, reeks of glamour and this and that,
- 40:46the sleekness. And it's like, look at this couple.
- 40:50How cool is that? I just love to see how they
- 40:52are together, just as they get along, because
- 40:55they just seem all, which who knows whether they
- 40:57really are or not. I just, just by looks, which
- 41:00means nothing, but I just, it's just one of those
- 41:03just, what is it like with them? Having coffee
- 41:06in the morning. Yeah. I, you know, what do you
- 41:09talk about with that? What do you talk about?
- 41:11What, what, what, what are his, what are his
- 41:13days like back then with Anne Bancroft? What
- 41:15are his days like these days? It's definitely
- 41:17worth it. You don't survive that long without
- 41:19having a strategy conscious or not, but have
- 41:22some kind of way of being that keeps you going.
- 41:24I mean, I think you have to have some kind of
- 41:26purpose, no matter how big or small, whether
- 41:28it's just to get up in the morning and put your
- 41:30feet on the floor. Raw cookie dough dipped in
- 41:32whiskey with a little butter on the side. That's
- 41:36how you live until 120. Well, this was great
- 41:40reminiscing about Rob Reiner and a million other
- 41:43things in Rob Reiner universe. There is no way
- 41:46for me to stay on track here. No, no, no, no,
- 41:48no. It's me too. I mean, it goes both ways. The
- 41:53association. Yeah. Once we talk, it's like jazz
- 41:58in the 50s. We're like, I don't know, take your
- 42:03pick. Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Dizzy, Gilepsy,
- 42:05all the jazz greats. We're just poop, poop, poop,
- 42:08poop, poop, poop without the hard drugs. Oh,
- 42:14God. Anywho, well, this was great. We got to,
- 42:16we got to do this again, Laura. Yeah, this was
- 42:18really fun. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe next time on when
- 42:22it's, when it's, there's not a murder involved.
- 42:24So it's not so sad. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. It's
- 42:29weird, but you've become my old celebrity death
- 42:32friend, which means that anytime an old celebrity
- 42:35dies, I'm like, Oh, let me text Laura like to
- 42:38commiserate about this because you're the only
- 42:40friend that I know that I could commiserate with
- 42:41about this. Well, you'll have this on top of
- 42:47my old soul, a pretty death threat. Yeah. Like,
- 42:49if you think about it, any time I've reached
- 42:50out to you, it's like, oh, Laura, Bob Barker
- 42:52has died. Oh, Laura, Bob Newhart has died. Oh,
- 42:55Laura, Robert Redford has died. What is so stupid?
- 42:59I do this. I mean, I have, well, my life is one
- 43:01big monologue, but because when there's nobody
- 43:03here and I just come home from work, I do my
- 43:06dead best. And when these things happen, and
- 43:09it's just like, you know, like when referring,
- 43:11I'm like, nobody's gonna understand how I feel
- 43:14about this. This isn't just like, oh, this is
- 43:16just like, it is, it's all kinds of things mixed
- 43:19up together. It's not just anybody. It's not
- 43:22just, and it's not like I know them. It's not
- 43:24like I even look at his work on a daily basis.
- 43:29It doesn't matter. I'm just knowing that. He's
- 43:31off this planet. How that makes me feel because
- 43:34of what he does for the planet and why I care
- 43:37so much. And you're right. And I'm just like,
- 43:39I know I have been sitting around. Who can I
- 43:42call? Who can I call? Good. I said, I feel bad.
- 43:44Sorry. I should have, but now from now on you're
- 43:45going to be my deaf friend. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
- 43:47Sure. But, but we'll. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. And
- 43:55then Anthony Geary. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Luke
- 43:58from general hospital. on top, talk about where
- 44:01you, we, I spent classes to get home to not miss
- 44:04the first 15 minutes of, of at that time. One
- 44:09jail TV can't no, no recording, no nothing, whatever
- 44:12you had to get there. Yeah. And the, and the
- 44:15Anthony death was like kind of stuck right under
- 44:18the shadow of the Rob and Michelle death for
- 44:20a little bit, but then like, a couple of days
- 44:23later, he got more attention that he deserved.
- 44:26Yeah. Yeah. I've never watched general hospital
- 44:30or the storyline, but, um, yeah, I started just
- 44:34because of course, TV guy being home from school,
- 44:37like in junior high. And then when there's nothing
- 44:39on TV, it's like cereal. What's a cereal? That's
- 44:42what they call them. Cereals. And I tried this,
- 44:45I tried it and then on the hospital and what
- 44:47is this? And so I just start watching and then,
- 44:49you know, blah, blah, 30 years later, I've stopped,
- 44:54but those ice princess days, those were the,
- 44:56those. Yeah, elizabeth taylor made a cameo Okay.
- 45:05And the world stopped. It felt that way. It wasn't
- 45:08just like just the kids. And it was people in
- 45:10offices and this, it just felt like the world
- 45:12stopped at three o 'clock. Yeah. When Luke and
- 45:14Laura got married. And yeah. And I missed it.
- 45:16I was working with them. Wait, didn't their relationship
- 45:19start when he - But that was all kinds of, yeah,
- 45:21that was very, well - Controversial? Very controversial.
- 45:25Yes, it was. Some of us had a problem with that.
- 45:28Understandably? There were a lot of letters.
- 45:30Yeah. Yeah. He came to town, he was a mobster.
- 45:33He came to town to work for Frank Smith, the
- 45:35big mobster. And then he opens this disco and
- 45:41then Laura comes to work at the disco, which
- 45:45was so silly. When you think about it, yeah.
- 45:48The whole thing was, and she looks like she's
- 45:50like nine. She's very young and he's older. I
- 45:55don't know how much, but pretty much inappropriately
- 45:57older at that time. And that was the whole, yeah,
- 46:01and then just go, and it was just like. All right,
- 46:03well, I got to give, I don't know if there's
- 46:06a catalog of like all the 9 ,000 episodes of
- 46:08General Hospital on a streaming service, but.
- 46:11Probably. Yeah. I don't know. It was forever,
- 46:14and then I'd come and go. And then it's like,
- 46:18and you know how horrible and stupid, you always
- 46:20know what's horrible and stupid, but it was fun,
- 46:22at least it was kind of, and then it just got
- 46:24so. Oh my gosh, or I changed, it's totally possible.
- 46:28And I will, from time to time, just check in
- 46:30and go, who's there? Who's still there? And who
- 46:32is this? Well, didn't Anthony leave the show
- 46:35and come back as Luke's look -alike cousin or
- 46:37some shit like that? Briefly, yeah. That wasn't,
- 46:40yeah. But he would come and go. which I wrote
- 46:44in for the character, which worked with his character.
- 46:47He was that kind of guy anyway, so. And then
- 46:48he kind of like stayed at a certain point consistently
- 46:51up until like 2015. 2015 is when he left the
- 46:54show. Yeah, I don't remember when. Yeah, by that
- 46:56point, I'm kind of... Yeah, you checked out.
- 46:58You're like, fuck this. This is, this is sometimes
- 47:00it was just like, you know, you just watch something
- 47:02for nostalgia sake and it's fun. It's like, no,
- 47:05I can't even, this isn't even fun for that. This
- 47:08is not fun. Yeah. Yeah. Well, great times were
- 47:11had talking about, no, no, you're fine. You're
- 47:13fine. Hi, for you listening, find the delicious
- 47:15culture wherever you get your podcasts, Apple,
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- 47:19you get your podcasts. Uh, delicious. Laura's
- 47:24like, wait, what the fuck? The delicious culture
- 47:28at gmail .com at the delicious culture on Instagram
- 47:31to tick tock and YouTube You can follow me on
- 47:34tick tock at John François presents Laura since
- 47:37you are my fabulous guest. What do you want to
- 47:40promote? Do you want to promote how fish oil
- 47:42can make you live until a hundred and two? Yeah,
- 47:45I know Dr. Demento used to be a radio guy on
- 47:54Saturday night Way back when he was totally goofy
- 47:58blah blah blah, and there was I don't know where
- 47:59it came from but there Fish heads fish heads
- 48:04roly -poly fish So that made me go to the fish
- 48:11head yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah made no sense at all.
- 48:14It's just that free association thing. Okay,
- 48:16so I Don't really have anything. Oh, yes, I would
- 48:20like to promote really do you want to promote
- 48:22peace on her? He's damn it Please. Peace. Yeah.
- 48:26Be the peace. I love that. It's just all, I'm
- 48:28really tired of all the cliches and the kindness
- 48:30and blah, blah, blah. I'm tired of every damn
- 48:32cliche. Peace. Just one word. Peace. Take a breath.
- 48:35Love, peace, and fish oil. Put that on a bumper
- 48:41sticker. That's the new one. That's awesome.
- 48:43I know. Yeah, that would be great. All right.
- 48:45Yeah. So Laura's promoting peace. I promote it
- 48:47as well because we don't have enough of it. I'm
- 48:50trying to come up with something to promote.
- 48:52No, no, no. You're good. You're good. I think
- 48:54that peace is what you do. And also, may I say
- 49:02peace and compassion to yourself if you are really
- 49:05stressed. And you use McDonald's as relief from
- 49:09your stress. That's what happened to me today.
- 49:12So it happens. Yeah. Yeah. I had that kind of
- 49:15day where it's like, Oh my God. If it's getting
- 49:18to you, fine. Quiet. Go home. Fine. Balance it.
- 49:23Why the hell has my TV been on all this time?
- 49:26That's okay. That's a dumbass. I was watching
- 49:28the football. USF is on. Oh, cool. We're winning
- 49:32so far. I can't believe my school was on TV.
- 49:34It's great. But quiet in the car, quiet in the
- 49:37car with your three cheeseburgers, your small
- 49:39fries, your six nuggets, and your Coke. Feed
- 49:43yourself with something opposite. If you're out
- 49:47there, and I'm in retail, so I know of what I
- 49:50speak, when there's loud noises and loud people
- 49:53and bright lights and all of that kind of thing.
- 49:56I know little about people with sensory blah,
- 49:59blah, blahs because I don't even know what it's
- 50:01called, but I know what I feel. I come home and
- 50:04I may turn on the TV, but I don't turn the sound
- 50:06on forever. I really just find something else.
- 50:08Find some music, feed yourself something to take
- 50:13yourself down. Don't just try and rethink it
- 50:17all the time. I shouldn't feel this way. Blah,
- 50:19blah, blah. Give yourself, give your heart some
- 50:22art. There you go. And with that note, this is
- 50:25a saying that I... Have been saying every episode
- 50:27or that my former co -host used to say every
- 50:29episode because we're called the delicious culture
- 50:31We want to let deliciousness ring With that too
- 50:40with fish oil and peace