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Splash Hit Territory mailbag q’s: Nico Hoerner, Rafael Devers & more · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: All right, it's another episode of splash Hit, and I
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  Speaker 1: So welcome to another episode of splash Hit. We are
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  Speaker 1: joined by our freaking contributor, Susan Selser. Susan, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Glad to have you today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's so good to be here. Yeah. As a writer,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you being very careful with terminology and words.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a very good thing.
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  Speaker 1: You just got to go slow and separate him. So
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  Speaker 1: we got a fun show today. It's a mail bag show.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna answer questions from fans, and we're real thankful
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  Speaker 2: That you're enjoying the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We're just here having fun talking giants baseball during the
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  Speaker 1: off season, and we're gonna do three shows a week
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  Speaker 1: during the season. We're break down some games and stuff
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  Speaker 1: and that'll be fun for us too.
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  Speaker 2: But today, Susan, it's the mail bag. Where do we start?
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  Speaker 2: What do we got?
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's we had so many good ones, which is
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  Speaker 3: really exciting because there's a lot, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot to talk about at this time of year with
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  Speaker 3: the Giants. But one I was really glad to see
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  Speaker 3: pop up, and you and I both kind of went
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  Speaker 3: through the questions and picked out some. But this one,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a very timely because I actually was
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  Speaker 3: writing a story about this when I saw this pop up.
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  Speaker 3: Could the Giants? It's talking giants, which is what we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Who knew could the Giants go after Nico Horner via
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  Speaker 3: trade from the Cubs? Well, my story in the Chronicle
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  Speaker 3: today and that was online yesterday. The Giants have called
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  Speaker 3: on Nico Horner. Now we've talked a lot fp about
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  Speaker 3: the fact that the Giants have called on almost everybody,
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  Speaker 3: you know, any of the spots that they think they
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  Speaker 3: need some help. They're you know, starting pitchers, relievers, apparently
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  Speaker 3: zeg and Basement because they've been calling and the agent's
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  Speaker 3: were telling me all during the winter meetings, Hey, did
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  Speaker 3: you know the Giants are actually calling on second basement too?
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  Speaker 3: And of course outfielders, so nice to know Nico Horner
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  Speaker 3: is among those. But there are other you know. They've
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  Speaker 3: been linked to Katel Marte, they have been linked to
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  Speaker 3: Brandon Lowe, all sorts of possibilities, and of course Brennan
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  Speaker 3: Donovan is a guy who I think they were described
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  Speaker 3: as front runners for. I'm not sure I would go
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  Speaker 3: that far, and I don't see this as really their
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  Speaker 3: top priority. Unless they cannot get a big outfield bat,
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  Speaker 3: like a real offensive bat, the place you could add
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  Speaker 3: some offense might be second. And if you got somebody
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  Speaker 3: like Nico Horner, let's talk about him really specifically. He's
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  Speaker 3: got one year left on his deal with the Cubs.
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  Speaker 3: He actually led them in war last year and what
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  Speaker 3: terrific season, and since moving to second base he's won
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  Speaker 3: two Gold Gloves. This is a guy for me. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: you do pony up a little bit in a trade
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  Speaker 3: because he's also potentially a really good candidate for a
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  Speaker 3: contract extension. Because he's local, he's from Oakland, he played
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  Speaker 3: at Stanford. I think that he would be if that
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  Speaker 3: is the spot they really feel like they want to
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  Speaker 3: add something.
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  Speaker 4: He'd be the perfect guy for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've been thinking about him all off season.
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  Speaker 1: He's a perfect giant and he's a perfect guy for buster.
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  Speaker 2: Posey, scrappy guy, hits the.
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  Speaker 1: Ball to all fields, plays plus defense, like you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't love to strike out. But he's intense and he
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  Speaker 1: brings energy every single day. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: this is breaking news or not, but I heard this,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know exactly where it is, but he
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  Speaker 1: bought a home in the city of San Francisco, in
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  Speaker 1: kW Hollow And.
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  Speaker 4: That was what I told you.
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  Speaker 2: That well, I heard from my friends because it's right
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  Speaker 2: by this place, right here, So.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I might get a beat him. I
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  Speaker 1: love the way he plays. He's scrappy man, and he's
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  Speaker 1: a good player. And when you talk about Chapman a
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  Speaker 1: Damas Horner endeavors in your infield, that's a solid, solid infield.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's Ktel Marte, I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen, but if you even had a guy
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  Speaker 1: like him, and now you got Chapman a Damas Marte
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  Speaker 1: endeavors that would be one of the best infields in
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  Speaker 1: the National League. But I think what Buster Posey's looking for,
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  Speaker 1: Susan is these type of players, winning players that can bunk,
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  Speaker 1: guys over, can hit behind, runners that don't like to
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  Speaker 1: strike out, that put the ball and play to all
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  Speaker 1: fields that are scrappy. I mean, when you think of
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  Speaker 1: Giants baseball, a guy like Nico Horner would be like
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  Speaker 1: the poster kid for what Buster Posey wants to do well.
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  Speaker 3: And here's another way look at it too, and it
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  Speaker 3: brings us into some of this week's moves. If you
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  Speaker 3: have an infield of essentially above average and a couple
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  Speaker 3: goal glove glovers in the infield, and you add someone
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  Speaker 3: like Adrian Houser, who a pretty sinker heavy guy, you've
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  Speaker 3: already got Logan Webb who's sinker heavy. You know, when
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about a team that missed the postseason by
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  Speaker 3: two games right there, that could be you know, the
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  Speaker 3: difference of another win or two, maybe even more with
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  Speaker 3: a really solid infield defense. And this is going to
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  Speaker 3: bring I love how these things work. This is our
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  Speaker 3: next question, and I think this is appropriate from Drew
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  Speaker 3: Gilbert stan and I've got you know what, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: surprise you because I got a Drew Drew Gilbert question
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  Speaker 3: for you later specifically, but I read last year at
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  Speaker 3: first base the first time Devers posted a positive war defensively.
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  Speaker 3: I saw a couple of plays from him at the
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  Speaker 3: end that looked very intuitive, like you've been playing there
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  Speaker 3: his whole career. Do you think he supplants Eldridge? Does
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  Speaker 3: that make Eldridge expendable? I think there are a few
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  Speaker 3: things that we can talk about here FP. First of all, yes,
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  Speaker 3: Devers Devors looks really good to me. Defensively, I think
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  Speaker 3: he could be an elite first baseman. If you take
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  Speaker 3: a sort of average to maybe slightly below average big
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  Speaker 3: league third basement and move them to first oftentimes that
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  Speaker 3: can be the case. So I and then we're working
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  Speaker 3: with Ron Washington. Oh my gosh, I mean, he really
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  Speaker 3: could be among the better first basemen in the league
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  Speaker 3: really quickly, because look how look how fast it was
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  Speaker 3: last year, just a couple of months, and Drew Gilbert
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  Speaker 3: stan who's also Matt Chapman's talk, He's got a lot
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  Speaker 3: going on there. He really improves so quickly in just
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  Speaker 3: those two months, and by the end of the season
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  Speaker 3: really really did look right, very good there. So what
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  Speaker 3: are your thoughts there? And then and then we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about Eldridge.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of nuances at first base that the
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  Speaker 1: only thing that is going to make you better is
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  Speaker 1: game experience. So he could work with Wash, and Wash
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  Speaker 1: is amazing and that'll help definitely. But there's all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of game situations that pop up. And when I talked
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  Speaker 1: to Ryan Zimmerman when I was in DC, who moved
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  Speaker 1: from third to first, his biggest challenge was how far
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  Speaker 1: to his right towards second base he goes for a ball?
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  Speaker 1: When do I hit the brakes and peel back to
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  Speaker 1: first or how far do I go for a baseball?
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  Speaker 1: There's little things like but dee's and cutoffs that you
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  Speaker 1: just have to You just have to play enough where
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  Speaker 1: it's second nature and you're not actually thinking every pitch
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  Speaker 1: like I have to be here on this and it's
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  Speaker 1: instinct rule. Because he did his whole life at third
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  Speaker 1: base to where he just knew where to be all
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  Speaker 1: the time and it was just like secondhand. And I
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  Speaker 1: think he got a bad rap devers at third base.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was a lot better than people said
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  Speaker 1: he was, you know, the whole bragmant thing, and we
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  Speaker 1: don't have to get back into that.
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  Speaker 2: But I think with Rafi at.
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  Speaker 1: First base, I don't know if gold gloves in the
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  Speaker 1: mix for him, but definitely definitely inadequatey. He's a good
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  Speaker 1: athlete and he picked things up really quickly. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his at first base. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's only going to get better.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be an elite defensive first baseman ever, but he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be good enough.
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  Speaker 1: To Here's the thing is a former infielder, I want
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  Speaker 1: my first basement. I want to have confidence in my
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  Speaker 1: first basement where I just let the ball go and
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  Speaker 1: I know he's gonna pick it. I know he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: make the play once I release the baseball. When you
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  Speaker 1: have a below average first basement over there, now I
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  Speaker 1: start to press as an infielder that I know I
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  Speaker 1: have to be perfect with my throws. Jason Giambi never
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  Speaker 1: got enough credit at first base, like could he feel.
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  Speaker 2: The ground ball?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: It looked like a gang fight at times, but as
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  Speaker 1: far as picking like short hops, he was as good
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  Speaker 1: as anybody ever played with.
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  Speaker 2: And I had JT. Snow which speaks for itself when.
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  Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco and David SAGhE in Montreal
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  Speaker 1: was as good as anybody I've ever seen at first base.
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  Speaker 1: So what that does is relaxes me as a first baseman.
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  Speaker 1: And if you watched Willie a Damas over this past season,
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  Speaker 1: he has a little short arm in his delivery sometimes
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  Speaker 1: where the ball doesn't always get to first base in
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  Speaker 1: the air and it's not on the fly.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: Where you're gonna need a first baseman with a Damas
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  Speaker 1: as your shortstop where he does the pat on the
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  Speaker 1: glove and maybe wash fixes the pat because when you
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  Speaker 1: feel the ground ball for your younger kid listening to this,
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  Speaker 1: and I know there's tons of them, when you pat
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  Speaker 1: your glove once you feel the ball and you go
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  Speaker 1: like this before you throw.
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  Speaker 2: Now you have a tendency to get off rhythm to.
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  Speaker 1: Where your feet aren't underneath you, and your release point
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  Speaker 1: can get a little bit different, almost like a pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: And if that's off because of this timing thing. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: the runner is getting a step on you when you
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  Speaker 1: do this. Number two, you don't know where you're going
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  Speaker 1: to release it and it can go low. And Willi
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  Speaker 1: does that lot. Well, He's a great shortstop. He made
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  Speaker 1: some fantastic plays, but I think the confidence Chapman hits
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  Speaker 1: you in the chest, you don't care. But with Willy
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  Speaker 1: at shortstop, I think if Devers can show that he
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  Speaker 1: can pick baseballs cleanly on the rag, then that gives
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  Speaker 1: Adamis more confidence. And what happens is you start hitting
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  Speaker 1: the guy in the chest because you're not thinking about it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the second half of this was do you think
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  Speaker 3: he suppliants Eldridge? Does that make Eldridge expendable? You know,
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  Speaker 3: this is a topic that we've kind of discussed a
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  Speaker 3: lot this offseason, is price Eldridge? Is he available via trade?
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  Speaker 3: Certainly teams would have interest. I wouldn't do it for
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  Speaker 3: one year somebody so much as I love Nico Horner,
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  Speaker 3: for instance, I wouldn't consider that. And as we talked before,
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  Speaker 3: I like, I think like a hunter green level guy,
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  Speaker 3: three more years of service, maybe somebody like that. But
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  Speaker 3: I do think that Devers is the first baseman flat out.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the front office, coaching staff, they've all sort
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  Speaker 3: of mentioned that here since since Devers started playing first,
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  Speaker 3: that he's the first baseman. So to me, Eldridge is
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  Speaker 3: occasionally maybe a bill in there, but mostly a DH.
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  Speaker 3: How are you seeing it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Eldridge has to take the job from
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  Speaker 1: Devers eventually, right when that is because Rafi said like
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  Speaker 1: publicly that he'd rather be out in the field, that
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  Speaker 1: he felt like he was a part of it. That
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  Speaker 1: DH was weird for him because he just thought about
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  Speaker 1: his at bats the small times IDHD in the minor leagues,
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  Speaker 1: it was like pinch hitting four times, where you just
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  Speaker 1: like you go hit and then you wait an hour
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  Speaker 1: and then you think about your last bat.
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  Speaker 2: When you're on defense, you're.
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  Speaker 1: Thinking about plays, you're talking to umpires, you're talking to
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  Speaker 1: base runners, you're in the flow of the game.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting a sweat going.
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  Speaker 1: It's like going from zero to sixty, stepping into that
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  Speaker 1: on deck circle, then in the batter's box.
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  Speaker 2: And I always admire guys that could do that.
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  Speaker 1: I really did, because there's an art to pinch hitting
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  Speaker 1: four times a game as a DH essentially.
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  Speaker 2: What it is.
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  Speaker 1: So I think if Eldridge shows a that he can
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  Speaker 1: make the team, I still think he has.
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  Speaker 2: To prove that, like he's a part of this.
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  Speaker 1: At his age, I don't think there's a rush with
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  Speaker 1: a twenty one year old. And I was all for
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  Speaker 1: rushing him last year, like let's see, let's see, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: But now you have Dever's there, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what kind of progress Bryce Eldridge makes as a DH defensively.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's a conundrum, a good conundrum to have.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think you trade Bryce. I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think you keep him unless unless there's just a
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  Speaker 1: package that knocks your socks off and you just can't
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  Speaker 1: say no to it and it helps the organization for
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  Speaker 1: not just next year, but a number of years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeahestion is that Eldridge is more comfortable at DH than
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  Speaker 3: Devers is. He DHD in high school, he didn't play
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  Speaker 3: a position in the field. It was a two way guy,
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  Speaker 3: pitcher and a hitter. But as a DH. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've said numerous times, you don't really want to make
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  Speaker 3: a twenty one year old essentially a permanent DH. But
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  Speaker 3: you know there's dhs in both leagues now. Every game
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  Speaker 3: has a DH. I'm not necessarily sure that that's a
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  Speaker 3: terrible thing. When you do have a pretty quality guy
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  Speaker 3: playing the one position you might put Rice at, but
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  Speaker 3: he needs to be able to fill in adequately at
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  Speaker 3: the very least. Let's go to another question about another
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  Speaker 3: one of the young players. And I was very happy
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  Speaker 3: to see this question because I like Tyler Fitzgerald a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of am wondering what's going on with him too.
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  Speaker 3: You were a guy I really am interested to hearing
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  Speaker 3: your impressions at Tyler Fitzgerald, because you know this role
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  Speaker 3: so well. It seems like potential speed on the base
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  Speaker 3: pass is a utility guy filling at second base or
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  Speaker 3: potential trade piece.
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  Speaker 4: FP.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Fitzgerald, Well, I mean being utility players a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work.
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  Speaker 2: Every day.
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  Speaker 1: You got to take ground balls in every position. I
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  Speaker 1: used to just shag in the outfield at one position,
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  Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of work involved in being
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  Speaker 1: a utility player. Because when you walk into that clubhouse
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  Speaker 1: and you see a five or six or a four
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  Speaker 1: by your name.
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  Speaker 2: They're not rating how you look.
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  Speaker 1: That's a position that you're going to play that night,
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  Speaker 1: So you have to be ready for all of them.
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  Speaker 2: And watching Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last couple of years, there's flashes of brilliance
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  Speaker 1: but I think with Tyler Fitzgerald's game, and I got
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  Speaker 1: to be careful with what I say right here, because
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  Speaker 1: he's he's.
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  Speaker 2: He could be more aggressive. I guess that's the way
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  Speaker 2: to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Like on the basis, a little more swagger to his game,
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  Speaker 1: a little more confidence, and just his approach in with
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  Speaker 1: his speed, he has to put the ball in play
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  Speaker 1: more often. Like there was a saying back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: down and run. Mean, he hit the ball on the
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  Speaker 1: ground with two strikes and then see what happens. He
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  Speaker 1: puts so much pressure on infield when he just simply
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  Speaker 1: hits a ground ball with two strikes. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of swing and miss in his game. For a
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  Speaker 1: guy with so much speed. If he could spread out,
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  Speaker 1: choke up, shorten up, bunt more, he's pretty good bunter.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't do it a whole lot. When Buster Posey
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  Speaker 1: says meat on the bone, and we've talked about this
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  Speaker 1: on this show before, there's so much more meat on
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  Speaker 1: the bone. But in my experiences in coaching and my
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  Speaker 1: experiences in playing, I don't know if you can teach
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  Speaker 1: the things that Tyler Fitzgerald needs to improve on.
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  Speaker 2: I think you either have that or you don't have that.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm a.
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  Speaker 1: Big fan of the human being the nicest kid in
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  Speaker 1: that whole clubhouse.
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  Speaker 2: But I think if Tyler Fitzgerald wasn't nice, he had
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  Speaker 2: a little more fu in him, which he does, but
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  Speaker 2: just a little more.
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  Speaker 1: I think, God, he's got so much. He's got more
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  Speaker 1: talent on his pinky finger than I ever had, with
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  Speaker 1: his size, his pop, his speed, everything about his game.
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  Speaker 1: But it just needs that intangible I think, just to
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  Speaker 1: turn up a notch or two or three or four
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  Speaker 1: and that he would be a star major leaguer with
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  Speaker 1: the ability he has.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the confidence, to me, that's the real key. We
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  Speaker 3: saw him play and spurt so well, and certainly the pop.
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  Speaker 3: You love the pop and the speed. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he's a guy you give up on.
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  Speaker 4: He's a little on the older side. He's kind of
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  Speaker 4: moved out of prospect territory.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: That's one caveat, and for that reason, he might not
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: necessarily bring back a ton in a trade. They did
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: use him in the outfield at Sacramento in the second
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: half last year, trying to make him into more of
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: a full utility player. I like that idea, the confidence,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: and then Also, he was one of the guys last
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: year who was prone to making base running mistakes, defensive mistakes,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: mental mistakes. Some of that's confidence, some of that is
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: just experience. I think he needs to iron that out
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: of his game. Somebody like Ron Washington, I think is
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: going to help there a lot. I certainly hope he
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: gets a lot of opportunities to work with Wash because
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I think that that could really take care of of
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: some of those things. And then, of course the base
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: running with Jase Tinler, I there were so many unwarranted
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: base running mistakes almost Team wid. There are a few
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: guys who are extremely good based runners who even once
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: in a while fumble.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: That's going to happen.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: But Tyler Fitzgerald has to get the mistakes out of
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: his game.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: If if Nico Horner becomes a giant, Casey Schmid is
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: your utility guy, and that's going to affect Tyler Fitzgerald.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, based on what you say, if Ron
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Washington can make me a better broadcaster, because I mean,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: it sounds like this guy.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: You'd have to use the bleep button awful lot, you
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: really would, though it would be very well.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: We both love Ron Washington.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: That's that's been chronicled down here and it's one of
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the better ads for the Giants this offseason.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about you know, we're in the young
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: player portion of I guess this mail bag, But who
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: do you think will take the next step up? This
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: is from Benjamin Contraras. I think Birdsong is a chance
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: to make a big impact on the team, great stuff,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: chance to grow under by Tello and this coaching staff. Yes,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's definitely the case. But it's going
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to be the strike throwing. If he is not consistently
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: throwing strikes I've mentioned on here. I think potentially a
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: move to the bullpen could be something.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: That helps him.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, the talent, I feel like I'm talking about Fitzgerald again,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: but especially we gosh, bird Song the first half last
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: year was just spectacular. I mean, the stuff is outstanding.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: If he's throwing strikes. What happened to MFP is that?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I mean that's Has anybody figured that out?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't know from experience, but the mound is a
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: lonely place where you can't throw strikes. And we saw
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: him with swagger and confidence and cockiness, a little like
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Mark Fiderich, where he was talking to himself after every
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: pitch shot on the broadcast last year, he threw a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: curveball that was nasty and they zoomed on his face.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: He's like, ooh, that was nasty.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So like when he had that he was unhittable that
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden that left. And there were some
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: weird quotes. I forget what they were about after a
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: game one time where he could just tell he was
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: deep in his own head. So again in Tangibles, in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a game where we have so many measurements analytically with
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of math involved, it comes down to confidence
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and believing in yourself and you start overthinking things, you
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: start tinkering. Then you forget where he started because you're
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: so far different with your mechanics, and his release point
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: was off confidence waiver. There's tons of meat on that bone,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: whether he's a starter or re leieve. I'm a big
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Hayden Bird Sog fan. But the young player I'm really
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: excited about, and I think that Tony Vitello is going
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to have a huge impact on and already had in
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: his career, is Drew Gilbert. He energized that team last year.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: An everyday right fielder yet, but I just love the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: kids so much. I love the energy he brings. I
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: love the swagger he brings.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Back to our last podcast where or a few ago,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: where I said, I hope the Giants are the most
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: hated team in baseball.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I really do. Drew Gilbert would be a big reason.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And there were some things behind the scenes last year that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I heard that were yelled by Drew on the top
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: step in the heat of battle that may or may
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: not got the attention of the other team. But those guys,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to their credit, the veterans on that team just let
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: him go.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: They let him be himself, like dude, you do you?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And he energized that ball club for a long time,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and he gave him a confidence and a cockiness and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a swagger that I don't think as a group that
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: they necessarily had at times with those lulls last year.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: So while energy guys are good and they're fun, you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: still have to perform. And if you walk the talk
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and you start to put up numbers, and then you're
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that guy. You know, Garrison in Vader's a guy a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: lot like that, guys that can add something to a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: club with their attitude, but the attitude has to match
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the performance.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So for Drew it can get a.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Little it can it can get a little old if
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you're not performing and you can and then and then
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you see a guy kind of get back into a shell.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So I think the sky's the limit for Drew Man.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just rooting for the kid I compared him and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: on the field I got so criticized on this on
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: as for saying he reminded me of Lenny Dykstra, but
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he does as a player, not about car washes and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: all this stuff Lenny Dykster cut into after his career.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: But but he has a little Lenny Dykster in him.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what. The young player I'm most
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: excited about, uh, and I do have more I'm going
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: to bring up to you again as I said, But
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the young player I'm most interested in this spring and
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I hope during the season is.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Hey Sus Rodriguez. The catcher.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: He looks like potentially certainly a good hitting catcher, which
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the would make such a nice compliment with Patrick Bailey,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: but potentially as he gets experience and learns how to
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: catch a little bit more. He was a convert in
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the in the minors. I think, you know, the hope
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: is that he will be a very good two way catcher.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I think he could be pretty special. So I'm really
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing him. I when Buster Posey says
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: this was a kid we really really wanted and it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: a catcher, that that makes me take notice. So yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: that makes me pretty excited about that we got. Hey, everyone,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: work with everyone. All the questions so far put up
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: were from Twitter or x or whatever you want to
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: call it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I still say Twitter.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: There here's a b K Adventures on YouTube. The YouTube
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: comments asked a bunch of questions, so let's go through
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: some of them kind of quickly. And uh, uh I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: miss Wade. I'm not sure which way this is? Uh
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: is Lamont? Is it Wade Meckler.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: It's the Mechlinator for sure, because it's talking about.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I mean Lamont was briefly in the outfield, but yeah,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I Wade Meckler is another one. I do think he
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: could be a decent big league hitter. It hasn't really
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: you know, between health things and just not really having
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: the opportunity. I don't know, if well, how much we'll
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: see him in a Giant's uniform at the big league level.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: What were your impressions. I know that coaching staff really
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: has liked him a lot.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I think he was a blow up average outfielder.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And when I think of Wade Meckler, I mean and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: being a utility player myself, like I think of him
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: running after balls on the warning track and inside the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: park home runs is my first take. He's a decent
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: enough hitter. But you know, Susan, you get your day
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in the sun, you gotta shine man. You get a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: chance at the major league level, you got to take
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: advantage of that opportunity in every way as a complete
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: baseball player. So, if I'm being honest, he's not even
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: on my radar.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Not that I want to.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Say that he's a bad player, but I just think
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that it would have happened by now if it was
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: going to happen.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I think you're probably right.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Anyword on when the Giants will announce their coaching staff.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Why the delay? This is a great question we've all
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: been asking.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: We thought the first day of the winter meetings, there
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: was thought that they would announce the coaching staff, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: it's more than a week later, we have yet to hear.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, all the names are out there. I reported
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a couple more last week. The Giants have made a
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: lot of internal promotions, which I love that, but any
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: any day now, I guess I thought that they would
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: announce the coaching staff before we got some moves, And
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: of course they've added Houser and Jason Foley in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: last week, so that came before the coaching staff.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Anything anything to other.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I do know if I was a free agent, I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: would want to know as a player, right, yeah, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: think you know who the skipper is, you know the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: pitching coaches, you know the hitting coaches.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Well, and they know everybody, so if they're talking to
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: free agents, they can say, like, look, this is our staff.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: What the Buster and Tony Vaitello indicated during the winter
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: meetings is that there's still some of the rules and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing this means just first and third maybe are
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: still kind of being hashed out, so they want to
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: make sure that's all. Hey, but by the time some
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: people are listening to this show, it might have been announced.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: So let's not spend too much time. But let's see
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: what was this last question. Do you see Smith sticking
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: with the Giants. I hear he's been practicing in the outfield.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Could he transition to a utility role? Dom Smith, of course,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: is who were discussing. I'm a huge John Dom Smith fan.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I love the way play it played it first, I think,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you know, guys like that are probably ones who sign
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: a little bit later in the winter, talking to various
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: different agents. They want to wait and see what the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: opportunities are. But certainly, I think all things being equal,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I think Dom Smith would really welcome I returned to
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the Giants. His career got completely rejuvenated playing for the Giants,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and he was just a nice bit And what a
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: great guy. Eddie could hit, Eddie could field. That's what
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: the kind of guys the Giants are looking for, right.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still good at defense. He could teach Ron
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Washington a thing or two about how the coach defense.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you what, just getting to know the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: guy amazing, but what a pleasant surprise. Defensively, had no
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: idea that Dom Smith was that smooth around the bag.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I mean all the plays he made and.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I watched him play as a met and that's just
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: never you know, you can see him me fifteen times
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a year, and I don't remember that part of his game.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: My favorite part about Tom Smith was his defense number one,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: but the two strike approach where he'd spread out Gono's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: tried and.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Just try to put the ball in play.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: He and Wilmer Flores, to me, were the two guys
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in the lineup that that really cared about putting the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: ball in play with two strikes. Wilmer would spread out
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and choke up too, but Dom had a knack for
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: just throwing the hands at the baseball while he was
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: choked up with two strikes. And he got a bunch
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of big hits with two strikes this year. And to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: have a guy that I forget what game it was,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but somebody got thrown out, he came in the game
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and then he got a big hit late. To have
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a guy that's a veteran guy on the bench that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: knows how to be ready at a moment's notice and
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: put the barrel on the baseball consistently, and to play
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: plus defense. When you have a guy like Rafael Devers
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: at first base, you're gonna need a guy in the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: eighth and ninth ending with a.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Two run lead as a defensive replacement.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Now, that would be a tough thing for Tony Vattello
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to take that big bat out of the lineup. But
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I was raised with the game with Felipe and Dusty
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that you always had your best defense on the field
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: with a lead late in the game, you know, big lead, no.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: But like three runs a save opportunity.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You know, you put somebody in left for Ramos, maybe
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you put somebody at first for Devs. And to me,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: he played left field in the minor leagues, so he
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is versatile.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I could do this whole show about Tom Smith.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I would love if the Giants signed him back because
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: he's a winning player, and the Giants did lots of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: winning players.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I agree, And just a great dude. Here's one that's
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: specifically for UFP. I really like this because I'm interested
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: in it too. Did your preparation change here to year,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: when did you start to ramp up after the previous season,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and what advice would you give to the young or
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: older Giants players as they prepare. I really liked that
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: one a lot.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it depended if I was driving or
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: flying to spring training. If I was driving to spring training,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I would sit on the couch with a steering wheel
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: in my hand for a couple of days to get
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in shape for the drive.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this seriously about preparing for spring training.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It changes every year. Man.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: It depends on your age, it depends on your contract status.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You know, it was always hitt in the off season.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I would ramp up right after the holidays, but the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: weightlifting started in November. You would take October off and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: try to decompress and let your body heal, and then
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: in November you really started lifting the weights and getting
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: in the weight room. December came around, you start getting
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit antsy, maybe you start throwing.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And hitting a little bit. But after the new year,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you know you got a good month.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And some change is when you start hitting in the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: cage and take a ground balls.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But there was always training involved.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I mean for a guy that was married at the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: time with kids, you know, the off season is supposed
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to be for family. But when you were the twenty
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: fifth guy on the roster, every year, I had to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: always I was always tinkering. I was always tinkering. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: never had the same routine. It would have been so
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: nice mentally to know that I had the same routine
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: every year. But it's like, do I want to be
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: bigger and bulkier this year? Do I want to be
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: leaner and faster this year? Do I want to work
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: on this part of my game? What position am I playing?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Did I sign a contract yet? Am I trying to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: make a team in spring training? So do I have
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to go in ready to make that team? Do I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: have a contract where I could ramp up in spring
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: training and take a deep breath?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: So long answer to that is just like it just
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: varied every year for me.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess that giving advice to any Giants players,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: it seems like the off season now is such an
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: individual thing. I don't even know how necessarily you would
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: go about doing that. But this is a WBC year too,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Does that change things in terms of preparation?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these guys got to be ready to play games
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that matter right out of the gate. And that's been
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: my only contention with the WBC, Like we're creatures of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: habit and we're used to getting ramped up for end
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: of March early April for opening Day, and all of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're putting forty thousand people in a stadium
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and adrenalines taken over, and you have to get hit
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the gas pedal when you're not ready to hit the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: gas pedal. So yeah, those guys are probably starting a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: lot earlier than I did. I would imagine the guys
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that in the WBC started locking in maybe early December
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: or right now, or I won't say November, but maybe
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: early December.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I love this one so much I jumped again
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: a little bit. But putting it back up, I put
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: in the whole conversation here, f because this made me laugh.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: You might be anticipating it because you know, you had
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: a little foto about Drew Gilbert and this is your son,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Frank Paul Junior. Would you rather fight a thousand duck
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: sized Drew Gilberts or one elephant sized Drew Gilbert. People
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: really seem to like this question. I don't know where
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I weigh in, but obviously you're kind of thinking advanced
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: stuff here. I just worry that one elephant sized Drew
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Gilbert would really create some havoc in the dugout.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It would and it probably wouldn't run very fast, and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: that's a big part of Drew Gilbert's game.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: So and then I asked if, like, do the thousand
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: ducks or whatever it is fly, and my son said, yeah,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: so a thousand Drew Gilberts that fly beat one elephant.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: That's gonna just clog up the base pass if I'm
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: being honest, Like, how many base hits does it take.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: An elephant to score from first? I'm going to say
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: like seven or eight?
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, what is the strike zone for a duck
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: sized Drew Gilbert?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I but then he'd be walked, which by which it
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: would be waddling. I don't know. I feel as if
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: perhaps just one Drew Gilbert size Drew Gilbert is absolutely perfect.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: That's my answer. I refuse to ask the question.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Well I should have.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: My answer should have been layof the gummies, kid, because
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that was obviously my son after taking a few gummies.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Legal in California. Everyone well, is that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going out on top with a thousand duck
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: sized Drew Gilberts.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: We can't top that one. Another great episode, Susan, Thanks
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Happy Holidays to everybody out there like and subscribe.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: We love when you guys in the comments. We read
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: them all.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You guys are the best and we're having a blast
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and Like I said, we're gonna do this three times
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: a week during the season, so we'll break down some
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: games for you. But right now it's the holidays and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: we're just enjoyed talking to you guys.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Susan, have a great holiday. I will see you soon,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Thanks a thanks everyone for all your questions to We
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: really appreciate it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, Swingharten in case you hit it.