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111 Jenn Jacobs (NADP) Shares TERRIFYING Dogman Encounters at Her Home · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the I Jubiter podcast. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Franklin, and this week we had on one missus
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  Speaker 1: Jen Jacobs. She is the Midwest Region two representative for
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  Speaker 1: the NAPD, also known as the More American DP dog
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  Speaker 1: Man Project the na DP. I had that backwards and
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  Speaker 1: she has, like I think she said, thirteen states under
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  Speaker 1: her belt. She came on and she was talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were discussing how people can reach out
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  Speaker 1: and contact an organization when they see one of these
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  Speaker 1: things so that they don't feel so alone. She also
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  Speaker 1: went into some of her encounters and all the odd
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  Speaker 1: missed surrounding that, you know, tapping on the windows, scarying animals,
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  Speaker 1: crawling across the roof. She's actually seen one in her
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood and all that. She's also a paranormal investigator. And
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  Speaker 1: hopefully soon, guys, I'll be able to actually reach reach
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  Speaker 1: out and talk to the creator of the North American
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  Speaker 1: Dogman Project, Jody. I can't think of his last name
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  Speaker 1: at the moment, but I'll have him on too, hopefully,
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  Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I know I did,
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  Speaker 1: so please enjoy this one with Jen Jacobs from the
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  Speaker 1: North American dog Man Project.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, thanks for having me, Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 1: So I got contacted, reached out through mister the great
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  Speaker 1: and wonderful mister Al Sandriga. He says, I got somebody
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  Speaker 1: i'd loved you to talk to, and he directed me
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  Speaker 1: to you, and now you're here. Al.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite people.
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  Speaker 1: He's fantastic, just so very New York like the way
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  Speaker 1: he talks him like is this cod from the Sopranos
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  Speaker 1: or but what's going on here? Exactly? He's he's a great,
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  Speaker 1: great person. Like you know, there's been situations that came
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  Speaker 1: up through the show where someone was like reporting things
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  Speaker 1: to me and I was like Okay, I need to
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  Speaker 1: reach out to OWL And it was him and Daryl Denton,
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  Speaker 1: of course, was another one of the great people that
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  Speaker 1: I really really have a lot of respect for. And
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  Speaker 1: if he says you need to talk to Jen, then yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. Uh So, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you, and Alice, I always try to support him,
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  Speaker 3: he supports me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And and.
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  Speaker 2: I have some silly chats some days.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think every little group of friends and
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  Speaker 1: think we have that little silly chat behind it. We
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  Speaker 1: don't tell anybody about We know the CIA has it,
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  Speaker 1: but they you know, as long as they don't tell
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  Speaker 1: my mom. Right, all right, Jen, let's go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: start to tell people a little bit about yourself. You know,
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  Speaker 1: how you got started in this and where they can
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  Speaker 1: find you.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually started out ghost hunting. So I.
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  Speaker 3: Found in my team Eclipse Paranormal way back in twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 3: I started ghost hunting professionally, you know, and twenty eleven
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  Speaker 3: with another team left that started my own. Then I
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  Speaker 3: was at a conference in Fort Wayne, Indiana, met Jody Cook,
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  Speaker 3: who founded the NADP and started researching Dogman, talked to him,
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  Speaker 3: listen to him, speak at that conference reached out to him.
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  Speaker 3: That was in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and I was
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  Speaker 3: the Indiana rep for a very long time until last
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  Speaker 3: year or the year before, I was promoted to the
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  Speaker 3: Midwest Regional Director, which I have fourteen states. Woh right
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  Speaker 3: here in the Midwest I take care of. I have
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  Speaker 3: the largest area.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahs in Kansas.
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  Speaker 1: Any sightings in Kansas, because that's where I lived in
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  Speaker 1: the military for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: I can look and see, Oh cool.
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  Speaker 1: You could share that if you're you know, I noticed
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  Speaker 1: you know, certain confidences and stuff. But if you want to,
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  Speaker 1: you can share screens, if you have any pictures or anything.
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  Speaker 1: You can share all that with us if you want. So.
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  Speaker 3: I just recently took over this new position, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to get everything organized here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of stuff in the background.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I tell you, I did put something in the
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  Speaker 3: Kansas file the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so your not there has to be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just I'm interested because I know the landscape there.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was stationed there in Fort Riley, which
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  Speaker 1: is basically almost in the center, and I just know
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  Speaker 1: it's not a heavily wooded place. So just you know,
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  Speaker 1: people always kind of consider when you see crypt it's
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  Speaker 1: like you know, bigfoot, dogmen and uh and others and
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  Speaker 1: a likel of windygows that it's normally near some type
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  Speaker 1: of wooded area. So it just I don't know why,
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  Speaker 1: just when you said midwest Kansas just popped into my
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  Speaker 1: brain a little sidetrack.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're good. What branch were you in?
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  Speaker 1: I was in the US Army.
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  Speaker 2: What branch?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, my daughters is going to through ro OTC.
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  Speaker 3: She's gonna she graduates this year, and she was going
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  Speaker 3: to go in the Marines, and now she's decided to
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  Speaker 3: go to college and do ROTC and graduate as an officer.
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  Speaker 1: And there you go. That's the way. She'll start in
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  Speaker 1: as a second lieutenant, and when she's about eight to
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  Speaker 1: ten years in, she'll reach her captain major area and
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  Speaker 1: then she's good to go. I think that's it's I
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  Speaker 1: was just a regular soldier. I wouldn't a grunt. I
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  Speaker 1: was a signal guy. You know, So if your daughter
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  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to somebody when we're in some foreign land,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I can say, here you go, man, go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and talk to So we did did, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate what your daughter's doing. It's it's something got lost.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of American spirit got lost Somewhere's a long way,
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  Speaker 1: but I think we're starting to never gain a bit
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  Speaker 1: of that. And I kind of like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she wanted to be in the Air Force for
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  Speaker 3: a really long time. And then our uncle passed away
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  Speaker 3: two years ago and him, his son, a couple of
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  Speaker 3: his nephews were all marines. And when he passed away,
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  Speaker 3: she decided to be a marine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Marines are a whole different a whole different thing. Man.
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  Speaker 1: They would say what's the army stand for? And I go, what,
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  Speaker 1: ain't ready for a marine yet? And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: how about that? What are you talking about? Just because
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be on the beach, bro, come on,
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  Speaker 1: put put me in the green.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy she she really she's looking forward to that journey.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say that me. I'm going to miss her, but
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  Speaker 3: you know it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard for my mom to, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: letting go, and you know, I would call back and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I have a little tear of mind, like
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  Speaker 1: a mom I mission and she'd be like, I miss
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  Speaker 1: you too, baby. But you're doing a good thing. And
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  Speaker 1: and and uh in the end you will feel that
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  Speaker 1: as well. And we all we all wish the best
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  Speaker 1: for her, and of course her future endeavors and well
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  Speaker 1: she comes home safely for wherever she does go.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, thank you. Yeah, she wants to be a jag.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, a girlfriend's a lawyer. But here in Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: That helps, Nay. So if you, you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: need some c I action, I can maybe hook you up.
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  Speaker 2: Stars college this fall.
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  Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about the association and
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  Speaker 1: what it does.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I did look for Kansas. I don't have anything
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  Speaker 3: there yet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, Kansas people look out. You know your
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  Speaker 1: next one the list right report? Yeah? Yeah, So how
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  Speaker 1: do people do that? For example? Okay, is there like
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  Speaker 1: a website they can go to or something.
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  Speaker 3: You can go on the North American dog Man Project
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  Speaker 3: webs and I will look it up right now and
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  Speaker 3: tell them where to go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you can actually show me and I can if
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  Speaker 1: you can present it, just present your tab or says
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  Speaker 1: present or invite at the bottom of screen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Are you on your phone?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm on my laptop.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I like that that's professionalism. This go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: present or share and it says present tab and then
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  Speaker 1: I can grab it and throw it up there that
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  Speaker 1: way people can actually see it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see that tab. I'm not logged in. Does
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  Speaker 2: it matter?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't normally go in from that side. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: share screen maybe that's it. Or share tab that's what
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you get to see my beautiful view of
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  Speaker 2: Cedar point on my background?
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  Speaker 1: Is that in Iowa?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's uh, it's right on Lake Erie in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm from I'm from Maryland, but right
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  Speaker 1: now I'm okay in Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: So alrighty I there it is, okay, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I will go ahead and grab that. There
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  Speaker 1: we go. That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: So you just where I have to find it. I'm old,
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  Speaker 3: I work on this website.
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  Speaker 1: And I just turned forty six. Okay, I think we'll be.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, okay, I just really just had a dumb
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  Speaker 3: ass attack.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I really did.
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  Speaker 1: We call it a brain fart in the military.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, I call it a dumb ass attack right there
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  Speaker 3: in the middle. If you have any anything you want
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  Speaker 3: to send to us. We're accepting new members. We've opened
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  Speaker 3: membership back up. We are accepting reports. We are accepting.
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  Speaker 3: If you you need help, let us know. You can
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  Speaker 3: reach out with na DP questions. Well that's not even
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  Speaker 3: the right email.
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  Speaker 2: That needs updated. Okay, Well I just took this over.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, maybe they can contact you in
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  Speaker 1: another way, maybe your or Facebook or something with this nature.
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  Speaker 3: It's n a D Reports at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Na D Reports at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Guys that reports at gmail dot com. And then you
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  Speaker 3: can message us from Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And there was for a long time a place where
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  Speaker 3: you could report encounters.
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  Speaker 1: Report sighting there it is, oh yeah, but I just
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  Speaker 1: seen it at the cornerator, I said, report sighting. I
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  Speaker 1: think I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in ADP reports at Gmail.
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  Speaker 1: There you go an ad reports at gmail dot com. Awesome,
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  Speaker 1: So how does the process go? They put that on
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  Speaker 1: there and eventually you reach out to them and if
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  Speaker 1: it becomes you know, if it's you know, because there
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  Speaker 1: are people who like to prank you know that of
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  Speaker 1: course exist sadly. Yeah, and then do you is there
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  Speaker 1: like a team that goes out or how does that work?
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  Speaker 2: So you send us your encounters.
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  Speaker 3: It's up to you. You can ask for help. Like
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  Speaker 3: some people actually email in and say I have a sighting.
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  Speaker 2: They won't leave me alone. Can I get some help?
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  Speaker 3: So we will take our team that's in that state
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  Speaker 3: and get the contact information, reach out to them, let
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  Speaker 3: them know we can come out. Set up a date
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  Speaker 3: time and we'll go out and talk to them. See
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  Speaker 3: what we can find, okay, and go from there.
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  Speaker 2: Take photos.
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  Speaker 3: We have a lot of photos on the website, and.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people are interested in, for example, personal encounters.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen this thing? Because I haven't I have?
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  Speaker 1: Could you maybe get you a little biger again? It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of weird, could you? Could you? If if you're
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  Speaker 1: willing and I know it's a it can be well,
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  Speaker 1: well you're honestly, Jen, your your your courage to come
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  Speaker 1: forward to even talk to me about this and to
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  Speaker 1: tell people to go do it. You doing it as
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  Speaker 1: well as an act of you know, courage and uh
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  Speaker 1: we over here we like I said, we're always are
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  Speaker 1: supportive of everybody. And if you if you're willing to partake,
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  Speaker 1: we were willing to listen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I I don't hide it. People can crazy for
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  Speaker 3: ghost hunting too. I'm just like, just just bundle it
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  Speaker 3: all on one big bunch.
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  Speaker 1: We tell people that you're a podcaster, and you tell
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  Speaker 1: them what you podcast, Well what do you do? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, cryptis and stuff like That're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to do You're not going to unbox
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  Speaker 1: the new shoes. I know that's not what I'm interested in.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, No, I can't afford those new shoes. That's one
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  Speaker 3: of the kind nikes that's five thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: No oh no, that's that's ridiculous. I've finally got myself
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  Speaker 1: a pair of basketball shoes, and I'm happy it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: I actually had a neighbor, and this is kind of funny.
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  Speaker 3: The neighbor told his kids and they told my kids
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  Speaker 3: because they rode the same bus. Your mom doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: She investigates Bigfoot all the time. And my kids started laughing.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, if she investigates Bigfoot, she needs a job.
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  Speaker 2: To afford it. It's not cheap to travel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh huh. They don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They don't think that. They think that, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you're a podcaster or even a person who does what
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  Speaker 1: you do. It's it's it's it's more than some type
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  Speaker 1: of hobby. It's it's an investment of time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and uh you but you do need you know, supplementary support,
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  Speaker 1: and that would be you know, holding a regular job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like the ghost tign community says that we work to
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  Speaker 3: buy your ghost unting equipment.
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  Speaker 2: True on a location.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to invest in those k two meters
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  Speaker 1: and the you know, the method. You've got to have
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  Speaker 1: quite a few things on hand to do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we do.
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  Speaker 2: You have our little toys, all right.
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  Speaker 1: All right, j when when did you see the infamous
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  Speaker 1: dog Man? And what was it like for you? Walk
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  Speaker 1: me into it?
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  Speaker 3: So I was kind of shocked. So when we lived
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  Speaker 3: and Jody, actually I don't even know where to start
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  Speaker 3: with this. So when I met Jody in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 3: I found out I lived in Fort Wayne, Indiana at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and I lived out north and there's a
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  Speaker 3: road called Till Road, and I lived on the corner
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  Speaker 3: of Wallan and Coldwater Road, and the next road up
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  Speaker 3: north north of Wallan was Till And Jody was talking
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  Speaker 3: about a dog man siding out there.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't think anything about it. And I was
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  Speaker 2: in and out.
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  Speaker 3: I was in my twenties, you know, I was going
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  Speaker 3: out doing this, doing that, and out all time to night.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't think anything about stuff like that. And then he says,
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  Speaker 3: there was a sighting on Till Road that got me
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  Speaker 3: interested in it because that's within, you know, like half
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  Speaker 3: a mile from where I lived at And what if
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  Speaker 3: this thing saw me while I was going in and
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  Speaker 3: out at two three in the morning, coming home from
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  Speaker 3: work at night. And if I had seen something like that,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known what it was.
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  Speaker 2: So that got me intrigued. And then.
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  Speaker 3: We lived off of Cook Road, and I that was
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  Speaker 3: before my son was born, so it.
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  Speaker 2: Was twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhere in there, I had taken my daughter. We were
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  Speaker 3: getting ready, I was getting ready to go to work.
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  Speaker 2: I was getting ready to.
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  Speaker 3: Drop her off at daycare, and she's lollygagging around, you
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  Speaker 3: know how kids do in the mornings. And I look
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  Speaker 3: over at the neighbor's car and there's something that the
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  Speaker 3: only way I can describe it is how a gorilla's
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  Speaker 3: rear looks, and how they walk on like their nipples
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  Speaker 3: and their but their booty sticks up in the air.
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  Speaker 3: You could see something round like that over top of
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  Speaker 3: the car, and I was like, I looked, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh shit. I told her, I said, get
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  Speaker 3: in the car, and get in the car now. And
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  Speaker 3: then I would hear howls out there as well. And
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  Speaker 3: mind you Cook until are very close. They're like, it's
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  Speaker 3: like Cook Road, Walling Road, and then Till Road where
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  Speaker 3: India yep, non Indiana, northeast Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's northeast Indiana. And I saw it there and I
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  Speaker 2: was telling Jody about that.
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  Speaker 3: And then my youngest son's dad also saw some saw
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  Speaker 3: something out in that area as well. And then when
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  Speaker 3: I moved where I'm at now, I'm close to South Bend.
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  Speaker 3: I moved about an hour north of Fort Wayne. I'm
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  Speaker 3: only about twenty minutes from the Michigan state line, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm very very far north there.
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  Speaker 1: I live road. Okay, I got it. I got to
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  Speaker 1: hear on the map. Okay, do you mind if I
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  Speaker 1: show where the area was the first one you saw?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? Okay, that's fine, that's fine, okay, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just figure, I asked before I blow up anyone's spot here,
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  Speaker 1: Let's see how I do that? Share a screen? I guess.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Here we go window, Nope, nope, nope, Chrome tab Google Maps.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: There we go boom. All right, let's see there's a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: pop up there. We go. Cool. So we have Wallin
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Road un Till Roads right here.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And so if you right, I'm trying to see it too,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to look at my ma'am. So
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: if you find Cook Road, that's the road I lived
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: on when I saw it outside our house.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Is it a cross street from Wallin until.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: If you find Cold Water Road you'll see I sixty nine.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking at thirty thirty three. That's where I'm
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: looking at.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, I live close to thirty three when I saw it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: If you're close to thirty three, that's where.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I saw it at the house. And then two.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Streets north of Cook Road is Till Road, and if
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you go east you're going to see State Road.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And okay, now.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Go okay, I got Cook Road here Till yeah, yep,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: there you do, mhm. And then is Fritz Fritz Road, Yeah,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: all out north okay.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So those three roads are.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: In this general area here, yep. And it's well okay,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: So it's a couple of golf courses. Yes it is,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: it's but not really what you would think it that. Then, yes,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I imagine. Sure.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So now where on the corner of Cold Water and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Wallin Is.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: When I lived there, it was a four way stop
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: and now it's a four lane road with stop lights,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: gas stations, all kinds of stuff.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: So it's really changed.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need there's parts of Baltimore people got. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, this was nothing but fields,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and this water tower was here alone in the middle
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of the field. And now it's this is towards thirty
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: years ago. Now it's even more. You know, it's just
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: people have children, you know, it happens. Okay, So then
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you moved and you saw another one.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: So I moved and we moved up here by South Bend,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: and I had my youngest son in twenty fifteen, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: we were staying with my mom and she lives in
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: the country. And I had took him for a walk
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: in his stroller. And when I goost hunt, you can tell, like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you know, how.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: The hairs on your neck stand up when somebody's watching me.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: So my mom lives in the country, and I thought,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I who is watching me? So I'm just kind of
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: standing around, like looking around. I won't see anybody, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I start taking pictures. I'm not released the pictures. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: won't release the pictures. But I took the pictures. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: there was a juvenile in one of my photos. And
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: when I was looking around, I didn't see it. It
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: was seen by since post by a retention pond, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't see it in person, but I saw it
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: in the photos.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: All right. But you got the feeling from it, that's
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: that's uh. And then then you connect the two and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: two together. Does that aha? Sinking feeling? I mean, could
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you describe that feeling for people who've never who've never
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: seen one? What is that? Is that? Sheer terror? Or
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: what is that?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm weird? So so I.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Felt like the eye, Welcome to the eye, my friend.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just like I got excited because I was like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: oh my god, look at this.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: You know, And I was like all excited, like oh,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: and then I like had another couple of pictures. It
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: looked like these bright spots that look like orbs back
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: in like the wood.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Area, and I I just like, that's cool, you know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I was like all excited. You didn't really bother me.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: It looked like a little bear, is what it looked
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: like until you zoom in and then you can see
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the pointed ears, you can see the snout, and you
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: can see the haunches on it, and it's such.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: A strange thing.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: At the time, we had moved up here from Fort Wayne.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: We're staying with my mom. My oldest son had a room.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: And then he started telling me he would hear stuff
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: at his window, scratches and knocks, sure, and he would.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Kind of freak out.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: And we would hear stuff outside and on the roof.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And as I said, we lived in the country and
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: there was a big barn, like a metal barn, with
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: cattle in it. And one night we were sitting in
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the garage. His friends were over there and we were
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: sitting in the garage and you could hear those cows
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: kicking at the metal in the barn trying to get out.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: It was crazy. And we would hear it walking on
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: top of the house and we would see it like
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: out and about. It would like look in the windows
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: and it would kind of freak him out. And I
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: remember I was on my way to Waverly Hills and
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: he called me. He's like, Mom, can you come back home?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I said, I'm almost in Kentucky. I can't come home.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: And he's like, it's outside my window. It's scratching at
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: my window and he could see it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He's seen it. Yeah, he said he saw it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: And I looked out the window one night and I
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: saw one going around my neighbor my mom's neighbors garage. Yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and it was tall enough and almost reached the the
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: drain pipe, the drain Yeah, if you.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Had to venture a guest. I don't know how long
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you've been in He actually told me about ten years,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: if you had to adventure a guest, I know, we
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: basically that's what we're doing. We don't. No one knows
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: for sure. What would you what would you suppose these
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: things are?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not positive.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Some of them look solid.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: And my son's dad said he it was snowing and
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: there was a layer of snow when he saw his
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it looked up, saw him, turned around, and disappeared. He
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: thinks it went into a portal. And I've heard they
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: come and go out.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Of portals too.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Why does he think that? So?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: You know how the snow reflects in the moon or
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the moon reflects on the snow, so it was black,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: so you would have seen it run across the snow, right.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: He said, it turned around and disappeared, like it went
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: into a portal and into a door and just disappeared.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So he's seen it. The dog man, see your father,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: father in law. I can't remember exactly what we said. Yeah, okay, sure,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but anyhow in law
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: there is. He's seeing it, the thing seeing him. It
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: turned around, maybe took a step and just disappeared.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, it sure did.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: What do you what are they? What are they doing here?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You don't know, We don't know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: We don't know. We're trying to figure that out.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And uh so there's so.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Many theories on it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: And some look like as Anubis, Yeah, Anubis or hyenas.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard this.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I've heard this too. Some of them look like I've
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: described it as looks like ike from from Tom and Jerry.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I've heard someone described him that way. But it was, uh,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it was a black one and it had blue eyes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: That was uh. I can't think of her name right now,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it'll come to me in a little while. I also
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: talked to Bruce, who's who's coming out, who's recently coming
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: out and talking about his experience as a former state trooper.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And he ran across a pup in the woods and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: it had a chewed up tail, and he was actually
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: looking at he thought it was a puppy in the woods,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and he's like, what is this doing out here? He's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: out there, you know, gathering gin sing, and he seemed
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that the tooths had a slot they went down into
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the inside the mouth, like it had a retractable area
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: for it to go into, and he's like, what is this.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: He put it down and it had a chewed off
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: tail and walked away. And then as he's going away
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: up the next gully, this one literally saw n followed
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: him through his car. He had walked through a hayfield
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that was cut so you can see everything he had
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just you know, he was armed because you know, it's Tennessee.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Got to his car and this thing actually attacked his car,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: actually attacked his car and followed him home. The mom
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever he's a guessing it's the whatever a parent
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of it, and he had to actually chase it off.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't shoot it, but he would shoot at it
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, scare it off, like chased it
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like miles away from his house. But the things you hear,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: did you have Martin Groves encounter which is famous? The
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: famous or matt imch I don't know how well you
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: know that one, or I don't know. That's Ohio but
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: in an industrial area, like in an abandoned industrial area
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: near the railroad tracks.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I've heard they've been seen in Chicago too, Oh, in Defiance,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the one in Defiance.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: No, this one I had. I had to look that
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: one up. And this is a Dayton, Ohio or something
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Jody probably knows about that one. He lives down that way.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: He probably does. Well, then you have to give me
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: maybe if you get a chance, you can give me
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in contact with Jody. That would be wonderful. Yeah, we'll
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: see how that goes to put you on the spot. Joey,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for everybody. I'm looking for.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You are sure?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's great? I would love you know. Besides or not,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that's up to that person. But sure. Uh, the one
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that did that, that's not very not very bright of me.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But it's all good.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: He doesn't he does do interviews.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great in any case. So the what was
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the what was the idea behind setting up an organization
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: for this so that people can step forward to protect
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to protect humans, Because I'm.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Guessing that's a jody question.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, damn, all right.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a jody question.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I know he's researched UFOs, he's researched Bigfoot.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I can't get him to go ghost hunt with me, though,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm good, I'm not touching that subject.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: He has no problem with a dog man, but he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: has problem with with He'll go out looking for dog man,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: but not that exactly. I'm reversed. I'm reversed. I'll go
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: with you. I'll go with you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: It's a hard time about it because it's.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you go investigate all this cryptid stuff.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't he know about the LBL massacree. That's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a reverse Psychiatrira. Maybe a psychologis on me,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: because I would I've had paltergeist encounters. I've I've seen
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: lights in the middle of the jungle here and uh,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I know you don't know the show, but I've talked
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: about him any times. So if this is someone's hearing
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: this again, sorry guys, but I've seen, uh I've seen
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: two times a light like a white bluish light in
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere in Mexico, in the jungle. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: bought property in the middle of nowhere after COVID and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: uh so you see like this white bluish light where
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it looks like someone shining like a like a like
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a flashlight through an aquarium. And it's on the wall,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: but it's a circular and it's kind of moving. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: when I go to look for where it's coming from,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, like someone's inter messing with me,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like the source like a flashlight. Nothing heard a voice
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: behind me? Was it eventually stopped the one to bed
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: second time close to me. Instead of on the ceiling,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it was on the wall. I hear the voice behind
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: me again, but further away, and it's not this is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: my own country. Ish Tobai Alucius, Yeah, this is so.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: The Ishebai is like the bel witch of the Yugatan Peninsula.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: To give people some type of context, it's a very
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like kind of appellation, you know how where the witches
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: come and take the men or the little kids away
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and they're lost. That's what the Ishabai is. Here, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I've heard disembodied voices. I've had rocks thrown
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: at me here. There's also there seems to be that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if dog Man has found its way
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: down here, but it's been reports on Facebook where this
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: person's like, I can't describe what I saw, but this
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: is the best representation of what I saw, and I
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: saw a dog man. So I then reposted, and people go,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that's not real, that's ai. I'm like, I know he said.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: If you guys will speak Spanish, he's saying, it represents
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: what I saw. And then in Spanish you see underneath it.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I see one near the power plant, which is not
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that far from here. It's in between my property and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the city. So it seems to be a thing. Not
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot so much. You don't hear that one, but death,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: dog man, Witch's ghosts uh and Ilucius, which are like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a little chair up very common, like a little cherup
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: entity UH, kind of made by Mayans to protect the corn.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And there's like a seven day ritual with blood and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: corn and on the seventh day it disappears, uh. And
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: they always protect the property and they're still here even
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: though people are modern society has taken roots, so but
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: not dog man. So if you say to me, hey,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: do you want to go out and look for I'll
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: be like, no, bigfoot, Sure, I'll go all right. I've
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: heard bluff charges. They can't be they're huge, they can't
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: be scary. They can mess with you. But dog man,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for that dude or
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: check or lady or whoever.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I've seen a bigfoot too. It all happened around.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: The same time or what's that? What was I like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised I didn't get ruineded. That's just it walked
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: out in front of me. So, yeah, I was driving
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: to work one day and it all happened when I
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: was staying over in the country. Like I live closer
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: to town now. I've lived here for almost two years
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: and I still have stuff to tell you about over there.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: What happened to you? Let's go, man, I'm here for it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: So I took I took a county country road, you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: to go into town. And because I lived in Amish
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: country at the time. So but I was driving to
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: work and there's a church and then a county road
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: and then a house and it went down a little
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: hill and you come back up, and I was headed
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: towards town and so on the right is a wooded
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: area with a really nice house in it, a little pond,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: and on the left is cornfields at the time, and
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I see that something really tall walk out in front
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: of me.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: And I was at the bottom of that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Hill right, and that road is busy, like this is
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the r V capital of the world, so they're hauling
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: RV campers, trailers, frames back and forth to all these
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: plants around here, and so it's a really busy road.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: They actually had.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: To widen in it so busy, but at the time
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: it wasn't widened, and so the dip was still there.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: And I stopped right at the bottom because this thing
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: walked out from those woods where that house is, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: there was a yield not a yield sign, but like
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a street sign, like railroad crossing sign, because they're right there,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: so you know those are pretty tall, yeah, And I thought,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: why the hell is that guy dressed all in rust
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: colored clothes with a white cap on.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: And it got to that sign and it was as
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: tall as that sign. Walked into the.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Cornfield on my left, and I stopped right where it
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: walked in, I was dead stopped and started looking and
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: it had disappeared that quick, And then I thought, what.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: About the white cap? What do you mean white cap?
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: It looked like a white baseball cap. It was only white,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: like right through here, yes, right on top of that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a baseball cap. And it was
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: all Russ colored except for that, and I was just like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: why are they all in one color except for that cap?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And then it hit me when I saw how tall
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And then breaks you look to your left and it
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: just kind of wren or whatever it was doing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: It walked into that cornfield and was gone, like it
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: was like October.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: It was around my mom's birthday in October, and so.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Leaves returning colors that haven't fallen quite yet.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: M the corn was still the corn was still drying. Okay,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: they hadn't harvested the corn yet. So you know, you
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: can walk two feet in there and you'll disappear.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what people think that. It seems like there's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: there's also like these cases of them following people home.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Have you had that in your reporting? It happened, Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I know, it happens. What do you mean by that? Jen,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: you and your crypted, cryptive way of talking. Go ahead, yeah, right, So.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: After it was it was when we were staying with
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: my mom and that stuff happened with my son. I
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: was actually driving home from a ghost hunt one night
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: and he called me like, Mom, I'm hearing noises.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Be careful when you get out of the car and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: they talk about mind speak. Do you know have you
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: heard of that?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yes? I have, Jen.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Perfect, I'm glad.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: So I'm almost to the house and I'm maybe a
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: half mile away, and like, I'm just like talking to myself.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: This has never happened before. I never had it happen after,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: not even when I ghost hunt. So I'm like, please
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: just leave. And I don't know where it came from.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: But just like us having a conversation, I cut you
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: off or you cut me off that said it's not us.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? What did you interpret the mean?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And then when I got home, you started hearing these
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: big loud thumps outside and you could feel the house moving.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, Oh I do what?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just really reiterating what you heard in
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: your head.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: It was just like a conversation, like somebody cuts you
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: off in mid conversation or mid sentence, it was like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: it's not us. I've never had anything like that happen
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: before or since I've heard this.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Like, there was a gentleman one time. Still he's up
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: in northern Minnesota. He's actually had Monsterquest guy co up
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to his house. I can't think his name. I can't
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: think it his name right now, but and his name
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: is Randy, Randy Bauer. And he was like, oh, yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: one time I decided to not go down the power
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: line and I went this way and as I'm walking,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: like what are you? And they were like and it stopped,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and his whole body felt it is like, well, I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: want to tell you what we're not. We're not this
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: where that we come from another dimension and we don't
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: live here. And he's like okay, and he's getting incredibles
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: like you know where he's saying that the smell they
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: actually put it in your mind. It was, uh, Doug
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Highcheck was with him. That's the guy from Monster Quest. Yeah,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and and Doug collaborated, collaborated, cool, collaborated, collaborated this. Uh
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: this you're gonna mean you mean you're gonna be good friends.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I like that kind of stuff. You just you just
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: tickled my digsel there. I like that kind of like
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: word like and uh he said what he said, Yeah,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing in my hair and said it was him
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: like his producer and Doug high Check and they were like, yeah,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: because Randy's a singer, He's a country new singer. You
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: just sing. He would sing and then he would stop,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and the two guys, Doug and this guy would be like,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: oh my god, what is that. It just just ran
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: sid smell anyway and and and uh and Randy was like,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I don't smell anything we've talked about and he goes, okay,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: sing again. They did it four times. It happened four
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: separate times, and it was time I didn't smell nothing.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Doug said, it was so disgusting that I gagged base,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you know. And he's just like, how could it be
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that he's not getting it but I am getting it
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: or the other way around. And he thinks they can
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: just they can just project whatever they want to into
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: your head. And I don't know what that means.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the same with ghost Hunning.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: It like there was we went to Brushy Mountain Penitentiary
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. There was probably eleven of
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: us in the visitation room, and my friend Bianca was
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: in front of us.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: She's a psychic medium.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: And the gal that I investigate and travel with, Becky,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: and I were walking and talking and we heard hello.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I looked at Becky, she looked at me.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Bianca looked at us, and she's like, we all were like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: did you hear that? Not no one else except the
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: three of us heard that, and it was just like echoed.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: We were the only thing.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I waity the other gal, and I was like,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I asked her, I said, Devin, I said, did you
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: come in the building. She's like, no, We're in solitary,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: which is a completely separate.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Building on that property.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: She said, no, we're in solitary. Why And I said,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: somebody just said hello, and we thought it was you
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: letting us know you were coming in. But out of
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: all those people in that room, we were the only
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: three that heard it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: That's very strange. I've also heard of experiences where I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: going to give my budd out mister mister Moore's name,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and too Gerhart Tim Gerhardt, North Ohio Bigfoot researchers where
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: he was there and I think it was either his
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: wife Renee or him told me that there was seven
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of them there, like three guys and four girls, or
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: eight of them there, four and four and they saw
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the bigfoot and or the forest person. You know. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: speak to Native Americans too about the subject like medicine,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: women like real, like they still carry bags and they
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: talk to them and like real awesome information. Yeah, very
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they I have no idea why
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: they trust me, but it's very cool. And thank you
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: guys very much. You know what I'm talking about. Uh,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: And he was saying, like this happened to him. Uh,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: he got sick, and all the males got sick, but
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: not the women, only the male. You've heard it, really,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you're you're you're. I like that you kind of hold
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: back the information and parts it like little waves.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard different things like that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Wow, all right, you were saying, I didn't tell you
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: about all the things that happened before we moved here.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: What else you got to tell me?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: So about that safe? Xander's on his PlayStation. So if
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: you hear somebody, they're not really being tortured.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He's playing his game. So was it?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Xander z A N D E R x A N
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: D E R okay, because in German, I speak German.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I lived in Germany twenty years. Zanda is another word
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: for pike or or a fish. Yeah, pike like a fish,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like a northern pike. Yeah, it's a it's a type
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: of fish.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: There's days he doesn't like to shower, so we can
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: call him that.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's a boy. I have a girl who's nine, okay,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't like to brush your hair all the time,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and I go, you need to brush your damn hair.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I tell him you need to wash your ass.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: My dad kicked my butt. I would go in right
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to the shower. I'd come back out. He goes, let
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: me see you corect look behind my ears, get your.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a boy thing.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: At that age his brother was the same way. But
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: now his brother takes like two and three showers a days.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: We will all know how that goes. Yeah, we understand.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: So when we.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: When all this stuff was happening with the so I
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: happened to see the Bigfoot that same fall. I didn't
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: that I only saw it once, never seen it again.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: But one summer I had found like it the walnut shells,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: like the crumbly walnut shells. I had a pile on
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: my back deck, like an offering, So I don't know
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: who that was from. One winter, I had started my
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: car and it was pouring the snow and I had footprints.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I did with that picture. I'll
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: have to find it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: But there was just a couple footprints right in front
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: of my car where the headlights shone, and there was
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: no more footprints, like it looked like somebody's barefoot had
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: stood there.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And I almost walked on them, and I took pictures.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So you're saying, just two footprints in front of your
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: car and that's it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: It's just a couple of them, and I don't know
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: where it came. I just like yeah. And of course
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: my kids are like, mom, did you see those? My
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: daughter didn't. I'm like, what are you talking about. She's like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: look at the.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Ground, trying to play cool mom.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god. And I took
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: pictures on my own of what I did with that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I'd have to find it. It's been years ago. It's
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: been probably five six years ago. And I almost stepped
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: on him. If she hadn't have told me they were there,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I would have stepped on them, but it was just
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: in that one area. There was none coming down the deck.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: There was none coming through the yard, or you're going
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: to see him if it's snow, of course, So were
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: they on? Were they in the trees and dropped down
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: and then went back up?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: He says, they're intermensional. There's been times where he'll find
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a set of traction starts and they'll just go and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: he'll follow them, and then it was end and he's
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: just like what happened there? And he's like, well, they
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: told me what they're not, but I told him what
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: they're not. They also said that they kind of are
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: into dimensional, so he thinks they just kind of poof
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: into like you know, like you mentioned earlier, Jim, I
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: can see it portals into portals. It's it's crazy, it's crazy.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I did tell one of the guys that ghost hunts
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: he speaks at conferences. I was like, when did you
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: start researching cryptis? He goes, this is my first investigation.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I said, Okay, you need to make sure that you
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: have plenty of batteries a flashlight, I said, and make
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: sure you keep an eye in the trees.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: And he goes, what do you mean in the trees.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I said, oh, if you're going out looking for bigfoot
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: or dog men, I said, they will climb trees and
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: be up there waiting on you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh shit, he goes.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: He's just like okay, so so people.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: So I'd imagine that, you know, speaking with the you know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: with the head. I can't remember the name right now.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of times, but names are just
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you know, when you do this for two years, Jody, Jody,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that are the Are the numbers of cases or the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: number of reports increasing?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to say yes, because I just took
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: over a position. The person that was doing it before
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: that handled the website and the email wasn't always passing
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: along the membership applications to us to reach out, wasn't
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: passing along the reports. I had almost two hundred emails
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: to go through. I'm saying this because if you were
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: one of those people, I'm just now getting to them.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I have emails that he did not contact anybody going
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty twenty three, and I am reaching
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: out to those people now and they're like, yes, I
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: still want to speak to somebody. I want to share
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: my experience I've had more, So yeah, I'm taking care
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: of that. That's why I say I feel like they're
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: increasing because we're learning about them now. And I do
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: think as people talk more about it, the more comes out.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Would you, I mean, I know you just started, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I know you've known Jody for ten years. Now, would
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you say, is there any type of would you give
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: anybody type of okay, bye, any kind of advice on
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: how to stay safe? Because we we do hear really
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: unfortunate incidences that you know that you know, Corner's office
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: will chalk up to something else, but we all kind
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: of know what would what kind of advice would you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: give people? Uh? For safety?
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: So we always travel in at least twos. Okay, so
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: don't go in, don't go into the woods by yourself.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: If they see a gun, usually they consider that as aggression.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: If you do see one, really don't turn your back
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: on it. Now, the ones that we encountered did not
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: bother us. They were actually kind.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Of like protectors in a way. They weren't.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: They were not. They weren't like you know how their
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: people are like.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're so aggressive. They sit there and they growl
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: at us and they try to terrorize us. Ours never did,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I can say that ours never did. They were more
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: curious about what the kids were doing and about us. Yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: they were who's who's we?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: And what what are you? What are you referring to?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: My son that kept having the encounters. My mom thought
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: we were full of crap. And my daughter actually called me.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: She switched bedrooms with him, like we had moved out,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: and she would staying at my mom's and she was
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: in his old bedroom and she called me. She goes, Mom,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: there's something outside the window. I said, what are you
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: She goes.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I heard something knock on the window and scratch at it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: She goes, and then I heard heavy breathing. Oh my god,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: did I said, just tell it? I said her brother's name.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I said, tell him he's not here, he's not in
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: this room anymore. To please leave you alone.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: She said it. And you know, they never bothered her again.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: There is something to it, isn't there There's something to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: that when I heard when you know it's weird. No,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: it's not crazy. I'm not even a Christian person, okay,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: but I do know that the power of Jesus Christ,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: for some reason, for some whatever reason, that is you know.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a Christian will say because it's you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: it's God. But for me, being a person who doesn't
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: have that faith, it says like, okay, I have to
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: admit to the fact that that's something. And I learned
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: about it, and I said, okay, in the name of Jesus,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want you here no more so there's something
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: too acknowledging that they're there saying an outlied or even
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in your own mind because that that because I already
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: knew about the mind speak stuff. Yep, like, Okay, I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: know you're here, I know what you're doing. You're just
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: you're you're inquisitive as to what I'm doing here. Okay,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to hurt my family. I don't
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: want you to do anything negative here. You're allowed to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: stay if you want, but in the name of Jesus,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: we are therefore protected and we don't want any problems
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: of anything. I'm here to make the land better. And
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: then it went away, and.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: I did I did say multiple times, I will not
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: release the photo I have and I won't.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I don't even know where it's at on my phone.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, you know, I don't have a photo.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Of it, of that juvenile right, and I won't release it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: I've had people ask me to release I'm like, nope, no, no.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I think I never I never want to force anyone
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to do anything they don't want to do.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm just saying, you know, people are like, well,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: why don't you release No?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: No, I don't mean you in particular, but I mean,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I like, I will. I
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: will put feelers out, you know, I'll say to somebody, Hey,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in your situation. Would you like to come
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: home and talk? Now? Man, I can't do that, Okay,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you know whatever you want. I'm here and there's people like, yeah, dude,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I love I've seen your show. I want to talk
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: to you. So that's what the show is. It's just
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a place just like what you know inn ADP does
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is what I do when on a different level, you
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm just kind of a collector
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of things that people get drawn to and then redistribute it.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: That's all it is, and if that's what everyone should
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: be doing, a lot of people think it's a red
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: carpet affair. I despise that ship. I don't not that
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I'm in America. I wouldn't want to go to a conference.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I would only go there to meet like friends of
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: mine who are also like running a booth, but like
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to be there to talk about it. I don't know
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: anything about this or to you know what I mean,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: or or to charge for how to have someone to
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: speak with me. There's people who do that and I don't.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I think that is so odd when at the end
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's about team human and protecting our families.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And that means because your son could be my son
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and my daughter could be your daughter, and more people
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: think that way, the better off we're going to be
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: in this world. But no one wants to do it. It's
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: all about self interest and you know, putting the wall up,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: but that's that's so to force someone to do that,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it's just as bad as being a red carpet affair
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: cryptid person, which is ridiculous to me, it really is.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to say it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I understand exactly what you're talking about.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: We don't we do, don't we There are certain individuals
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: names not to be mentioned because they are they have
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: they have fucking they have whole flocks. It's like the Mafia,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the crypt Mafia.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Crypt my friend actually has has a team called the
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: han In Mafia.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Well that's a different thing. It's like, because all the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: words you're gonna we have, I got your close paranormal,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: there's el paranormal, there's twin paranormal, which is you know
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: whatever they are. Uh, there's hope, there's so after a
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: while you have to come up with a name. So
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: why not the you know, the paranormal mafia or whatever it's.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: It's to catch the attention mm hmm, which is what.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: She's another one you need to talk to.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Sure, we'll have her, have her reach out to me.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to her. I love paranormal investigators. I love it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: So I want to share with you what else happened
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: that summer.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Go for it.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I mean it was a whole summer thing.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Did you say Her name is Larissa?
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Larissa? Yeah? Okay you r I s s a Larissa
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Mary Rex.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Mary in a r y Mary or like Merry Christmas?
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Okay rex are And I can find her like on
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Facebook or something like that.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, she can go to my friend's list
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: and find her.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's perfect. I will do my I will reach
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: out to her.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: So the summer that we had this happen at my
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: mom's house, I got to talk to my cousin and
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: they used to live down this They used to live
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: in town, and they were coming.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Down by the railroad tracks and the.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Little town I lived at, and he was telling me
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: something was running alongside their car that had red eyes
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: and was taller than their jeep that same summer, and
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: then my friend was telling me she's she.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Loves the spooky stuff.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: She was telling me she works second shift, so you know,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: get off at ten thirty eleven eleven thirty at night.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Driving home, she came down that backway right beside the
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: same rower tracks because she lives just like like two
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: blocks away from there, and it's wooded out by her house.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: And like I said, we lived in Amish country, you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: very small town population maybe a thousand people at the most,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: and that includes cats, dogs, birds, and lizards and you know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: and there was like close to her house was a
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: little patch of woods. And she said she had turned
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: down on that road by the railroad tracks that comes
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: into town, okay, and she said there was something in
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: the middle of the road.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: She said it was on two legs, saw her headlights
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: drop down on all four and took off running. She said,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: it ran to the woods.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I said, so the woods are by your house, and
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh shit, I adn't think about that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's the thing people are always looking for, like
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Hollywood stuff, like people are Oh. I love the Conjuring franchise.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's awful. I do not like the Conjuring movies.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I've watched them, and I think, whatever the rain and
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that was got you know, they're wonderful people whatever, But
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the movies, I don't like them. Give me the original Exorcist,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: give me the original Halloween, give me Texas Chainsaw Massacred original, right,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: these are horror movies, but like, if you want to
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: go real horror, it's like these stories that like I
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: can't even imagine what the Homish people would say. They
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: would never say anything.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I so want to talk to them and get their encounters,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: but I just don't know how to get a hold
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: of any of them because they can't.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't, yeah, as they choose not to.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: We had here in Mexico we have the Mennonites, which
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: is basically yeah, they're like I remember coming here I was.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I went to the walmart and seeing this big, tall
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: white dude in the fucking cowboy head. I'm a big
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a big, tall white dude minus the cowboy hat,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, hey, how's it going. He was
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: just like and and uh and some like Mexican persons
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: like oh, that's a menu, and they don't really speak
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to people, and they can only speak German or they
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: don't speak English. So I speak German, right, So I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: went back to him and started speaking German to him
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and realized that I speak like the high German that
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you speak in Germany, and they speaks like some old
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: ship that you Yeah, You're like, what is that? And
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like which is like a Swiss dialect
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: or plat. Deutsch was like flat German. The Dutch here, yes,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: which is okay. The Pennsylvan, for example, the Pennsylvania Dutch.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: The reason they called the Dutch is they're not Dutch.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: It's called it's actually the Pennsylvania Deutsche, and Deutsche means
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: German because Germany is Deutsche Land in German, so they
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: couldn't pronounce it. They switched to the Dutch. But it's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: actually the Pennsylvania Deutsche get a little Yeah, it's weird.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: What do we do?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I have you a little amish tidbit here?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, So where I live at it's like surrounded lots
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: of amish.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: And the one I used to work for.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: A I don't know how to say this, a therapy
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: you an impatient facility, we'll put it that way. And
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: it's been a night based and one of the guys
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: was telling me that, And I don't know how true
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: this is, so don't sue me for saying this. He
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: was one of the guys I worked. Was said, at
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: one point here in Indiana, there was so much I
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: don't want to say in breeding, but there was coming
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: up so many kids on the spectrum, yes and stuff
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: that they had to quote unquote ship people women from
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania to Indiana and send people out to Pennsylvania. They
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: had to exchange and get some new blood in here.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you look at the whole minarchies of Europe,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: for example, they're all German based. Yeah, all of them
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: are German based. So even the House of Windsor or
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: even the before the Bolsovitch Resolution Revolution of the nineteen
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: seventeen when they killed the Romanov family. The Romanovs were
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: also German bloodlines, so even places in the Middle East.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Now they are not trying to make anyone feel crappy,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: but just true. Their IQs are lower than most of
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the world or the rest of the world because they
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: have you know, first cousin marriages, so you have it
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: when you have an insular culture. That's not necessarily always
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: a good thing, especially when it comes to genetics.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I was really shocked here. I hadn't really thought about
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: that until he said something, and I was like, oh,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: well that that would make sense.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: But I would just wonder, could you imagine the stories
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that are passed down when they've when you know, when
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: the first settlers came here, right, because you know, if
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: you go into Native American tribes, right, they all have
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: stories of dog man and mostly Bigfoot, there is some
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: dog man, so they call them, you know, uh ylushi,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: which is the you know, the you can't say that word,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about, Yeah, the walker
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: of whatever, Johnny Walker. There we go. I had to
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: be clever and I was able.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: To pull it out.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I just imagine, you know, going across on the wagon
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: train and in generation. You're moving through Tennessee, you're moving
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: into the Midwest. The things they saw, the things when
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: when there was more population of them most likely, and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: less of us, and then the wildness of the American frontier.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I would just love to be able to get into
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that wealth of knowledge. I just don't know how you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: would even begin.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: I wish before my grandparents had passed away, I knew
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: then what I know now, because they.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: That's a Toby Keith song, isn't It's the other way.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Something like that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: But my mom's from West Virginia, my dad is from Kentucky,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: and my grandma they moved my my my paternal grandparents
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: still lived in Kentucky when they passed away, and my
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: maternal ones moved to Indiana, like in.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Sixty two.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: My amp was ten, so they've been here quite a while.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: But my grandma always tell me you better get in
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: the house before the Boogerman or the booger gets you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: at night. And I thought, my god, she scared me
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: about the devil. And as I got older, I'm like,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: oh shit, she was talking about Bigfoot.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, booger, the booger, yes, the wood booker, Yes, many
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: words for them.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did not know that, and that's how I'm like, Oh,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I wish I would have known back then what I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: know now, and I could have asked her so many questions.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, your son has seen these things, right, so
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: he's he's you know what I mean. But the kids
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: nowadays are We were so much more innocent in a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: sense because we didn't have that view that the Internet
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: opened up to us, that portal for lack of a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: better word. And so imagine you know you and I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: when we were as kids, they was like, oh yeah,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: uh go into the house because the wood booker gets
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you and we're like, what are you talking about it?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: And you kind of took it silly. But also the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Boogeyman is what we called him, all right. We also
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: have one called the bunny Man. That's what the bunny Man.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a whole like, uh yeah, I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's from where it's originally from. I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: think it's from the DC area. I'm from Baltimore and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: it kind of who's that? So it was there was
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: like a it's like a crazy cereal type. What I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: was explaining to me is cereal killer type who wears
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: an old bunny suit who lived down by the railroad tracks.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: But I think it's something else and I'm going to
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: look into it. We also have the Monster of Sykesville,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: which is probably like a werewolf type thing. These these
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: these stories that have been passed down through is that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: are in folklore are now coming to life through the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: power of the Internet and more more people are stepping
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: forward and organizations like yours and many others who are
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: good accredited. There's some are you know, not as good
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: as they could be, but we always try to improve ourselves.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Even the government is not perfect, right, Uh, of course,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: no no problem here with understanding that. And and I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: think that what you guys are doing is necessary because
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the more eyewitness testimony that we can get, the more
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: evidence we can collect, any type of physical, any any
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: of those kind of things. Indian help state lives and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and and I think what you're doing Jen and uh uh,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I think they take the right person to represent the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Midwest region. You seem to be very you have a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: good sense of humor. You seem to have a very
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: good uh moral stance about you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: You're a family person. Your daughter is going into the military,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: so that's all I need to know to know that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: you're the right person for me. So one more time, Jen,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: first of all, thank thank you so very much for
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: coming on to talk with me. And uh, one more time,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: where can people reach out uh and contact you guys
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that they've had a signing.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: So it's the North americandog Man Project dot com. Uh,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: you can message me on Facebook, m you can message,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: you can message any of the chapters. You can email
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: us at na DP reports at gmail dot com. I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: am and I will actually be speaking at conferences this
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: year and I am holding two conferences myself.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's it's incredible. It's a it is. I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: cannot believe that we have to go on shows like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that you have to go on to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: show like mine to talk about the experiences that you have.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: This should be on front page. Mooge iguar.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I enjoy it. It's fun like I get to meet
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: having a great.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I'm a I'm a comic. I've
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: been doing it for a very long time. I've done
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: it in three languages. I'm just not as good as
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: another two as I am in English. But uh, it's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: been natural to me being a front man for a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: metal band many years. All all those things kind of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: lend itself to to my ability to uh interview people,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: and then two and a half years of experience of
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: doing it has made it better for me as well.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been really fun talking to you. It's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: been enlightening. Thank you for coming forward, and thank you
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: for helping us out and help us help being a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: portal or not a portal, Akities Network for being a
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: hub where people can come to and not thinking that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: they're crazy for what they saw.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't judge anybody because I have crazy experiences,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: both in like haunted locations and you know, the cryptid field.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: I've seen stuff I've seen. I've even seen an elemental.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: That was the first thing I saw when I was four. Okay,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: and last summer Becky and I were at two different
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: locations and encountered elementals and I was so thankful she
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: saw the second one because I was like, what is that?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: And like it disappeared and then she looked and she goes,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: did it have really long looking arms? I said, oh
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: my god, yes, and she's like, it's an.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Elemental long arms? And okay, it was a elemental. Uh,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: there's elementals. There's firewater, earth, and I forget the other
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: one firewater, earth and air.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, sky, okay, yeah, air, elemental. Yes, it's an entrant
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: set out that also lines up with like the astrological
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: science in the water and all that. There's there's something
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: this this people want to think, you know, because science
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: has failed us in many ways. It's good in other ways,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: but it's now been institutionalized to be like the new religion,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: and it is. If you have the answers they want,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: then you get the funding. We know that. But there's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: these old things in the past, whether it be alchemy
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: or whether it be astrology, that still connect us with
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you know, when we used to look up and see
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the stars at night. I want to see the Grand Canyon, man, dude,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you know it's way better than that going to what
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: there's no light pollution and looking up it's amazing. It's incredible,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, that's that's my thing, man.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I love all the ia, Jupiter, all that, like, you know,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the the wonderment of the universe looking upon it, the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: gravity of it, that rig red spot and like that's
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: kind of I want to invoke people's uh, that childlike wonder.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I don't want to scare them. It's just that so
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: many stories that I do get are scared.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah there are, we get those two. Yeah, and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: you just have to help them.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is is what it is. Man.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: My youngest son that was down here, he his favorite
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: planet is Jupiter two and he actually says he's going
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: to go in the Space Force and he's going to
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: be a NASA engineer. And I was like, so if
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: you go in the Space Force and get clearance, I said.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: You need to tell your mom what's going on.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what's weird. You know that Jupiter's there, right,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: But it's a whole different thing when you actually buy
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: telescope and look through it and see it. Because I've
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: seen it of course Saturn, I've seen Mars, Jupiter and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: the and Dramaeda galaxy.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah man, I was like, I want to see it.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: He would love to talk to you about that.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Last last year in school, they were studying the planets,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: and his teacher like he was comment here and there,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: and his teacher actually asked him to help her teach
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: the other kids about the the planets.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: And that's my kid too, she really and he was.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: He just turned ten, so he was what nine eight nine.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize being a mom or a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: single dad like myself, is that you have to invoke
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: their You have to follow their interest and then sprinkle
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: in the math and the reading and the comprehension and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: not teach them what to think, but how to think
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: and invoke that wonder about mystery in the universe that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: is here. Guys, magic is real, bro, be careful. Don't
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: play with wigi boards that okay, okay, We and you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: were definitely friends because yep.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: They're like my oldest son, his friend drew a Ouiji
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: board on a piece of paper and sent him a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: picture of it and he's like, no, he goes, you
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: need to tear that up now.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not dealing with it.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: And a race of picture on your phone. All that stuff, man,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: because that stuff and never take anything with you from
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: a haunted location. There's all the things you need and
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: don't do that. People are just so silly they want
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: to go to you know, the don't want to go
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: to where the bellwich is where I can't remember in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Madison County or something like that. And they go there
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: and they're like, I'll just take a rock from here.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I don't even want dirt on my shoes when I leave.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I want to spray them off with a garden hose.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just no.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: I told the one guy I work with that I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: sit by he he's going to Hawaii. Him and his
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: wife went to Hawaii this weekend. As soon as I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: heard that, I looked at it. I said, and do
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: not take anything from that volcano with you.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: And he goes.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: He looked at me really funny. So I said, no,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I'm being serious.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I said, do not. I don't remember what does it kill? Awea?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I said, don't take anything from the volcano
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: in Hawaii. I said, because you will have bad luck
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: and you will end up mailing it back like a
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: bunch of other people to have.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, I.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Just want to be in a position in life where
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I get to say that sentence to somebody. Don't bring
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: anything back from the volcano with you?
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  Speaker 2: Is that bad? That was my first thought.
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  Speaker 3: Instuff, enjoy your trip, don't bring anything back with your volcano.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, honestly, Uh, maybe for the I guess
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote normy. Yeah, but for you and I and
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  Speaker 1: others like us were like, no, that is the sweetest
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  Speaker 1: thing you could say.
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  Speaker 2: Take any.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh yeah, that's a great way in the show. Jay.
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  Speaker 1: Let's keep in contact and uh yeah, this has been great.
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  Speaker 1: I really I really enjoyed it. Thank you so very
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  Speaker 1: much for coming on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Well thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed that. Uh well,
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  Speaker 1: if you play for the ticket, I'll I gotta get
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of things to do. How to
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  Speaker 1: start life over again, that's another day. Anyhow. We are
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  Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, well it's that's that's Tom's feelings. That's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: a different show. Are the I we are aware, Love
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  Speaker 1: you all and have a wonderful day.