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Talking Crystals with Ashleigh from Big Crystal Energy · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: What I.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Occult Rejects. Today's guest sits at
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  Speaker 4: a really interesting crossroads that we don't get to explore
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  Speaker 4: nearly enough.
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  Speaker 2: In the occult world.
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  Speaker 4: People often separate science and spirituality into two opposing camps,
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  Speaker 4: but every once in a while, you meet someone who's
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  Speaker 4: comfortable standing with a foot in both. Ashley is the
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  Speaker 4: creator and host of Big Crystal Energy, where she explores crystals, magic, Tao, astrology,
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  Speaker 4: and spiritual practice. What makes her perspective especially compelling is
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  Speaker 4: that she also has a medical background as an orthopedic
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  Speaker 4: physician assistant. That combination allows you to ask questions that
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  Speaker 4: many people on either side a void. How much of
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  Speaker 4: our experience is biology, how much is symbolism? Where does
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  Speaker 4: ritual intersect with psychology? And where do ancient traditions still
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  Speaker 4: have something meaningful to teach us? Here on the Occult Rejects,
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  Speaker 4: we spent a lot of time examining the historical, anthropological, neurological,
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  Speaker 4: and scientific sides of ritual and magic. So today's conversation
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  Speaker 4: is one I've been looking forward to because we're going
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  Speaker 4: to explore that fascinating middle ground where minerals become symbols,
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  Speaker 4: symbols become ritual tools, and ritual shapes human experience, whether
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  Speaker 4: you're a skeptic, a lifelong practitioner, are simply curious about
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  Speaker 4: why crystals have held humanity's attention for thousands of years.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're going to find this conversation both thoughtful
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  Speaker 4: and challenging. But before we introduce Ashley, I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: introduce Eric. Thank you very much, Eric, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: And how are you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing just fine, happy to be here for a
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  Speaker 5: talk about something I love, which is crystals. So guys,
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  Speaker 5: you can find me on YouTube or other social media
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  Speaker 5: at Eric Arcadian. Go check out my show where I
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  Speaker 5: interview other interesting people, music, myth and magic, also on YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, thank you very much. And what about that
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  Speaker 4: book you got out? Why don't you promote that book
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  Speaker 4: real quick and let everybody know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I wrote a book and it's called
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  Speaker 5: Fluid Condensers, Unlocking the Mysteries of Gold, Alchemy and Magic.
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  Speaker 5: So if you like a cult shit, you'll probably like
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  Speaker 5: reading my book. I talk a bit about alchemy and
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  Speaker 5: other cool stuff in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and that's how we met. I had them on
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  Speaker 4: for that book. So if you want to go check
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  Speaker 4: out a little bit of what's on that book. In
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  Speaker 4: that book, you can check them out on the Occult Rejects.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably a couple of months ago by now, but
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  Speaker 4: definitely go check it out. Had a great time and
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  Speaker 4: how to have.
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  Speaker 2: Them back on.
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  Speaker 4: So finally, Ashley, thank you so much for making it.
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  Speaker 4: Please let everybody know anything you want to promote where
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  Speaker 4: they can find your show, your Instagram, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: It's so nice to meet you guys, like finally getting
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  Speaker 3: to come together. This is so fun. Yes, I'm Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the host of the Big Crystal Energy Podcast. That
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  Speaker 3: was a beautiful introduction. I appreciate that. That was really lovely.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I've just been making my way through many rabbit holes
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  Speaker 3: going down, you know, so many different pathways over the
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  Speaker 3: past several years, and I have the Big Crystal Energy Podcast,
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  Speaker 3: which really has been an outlet for me to explore
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  Speaker 3: the mystical side of myself but also incorporate the science
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  Speaker 3: of it too, because I think in a lot of cases,
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  Speaker 3: especially with crystals and a lot of things in magic,
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  Speaker 3: there is a lot of science to it as well.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of what I'm doing right now. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm doing some other things that are coming
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  Speaker 3: up that are in the works, but I'm not quite
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  Speaker 3: ready to announce them yeah yet, but hopefully soon. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm just excited to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm very excited to have you on. I really
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  Speaker 4: appreciated you find making it too. Yeah, I'm glad you're
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  Speaker 4: doing better and you're not sick anymore too.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, honestly, that was crazy because we were
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  Speaker 3: originally scheduled to record and it was like like the
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  Speaker 3: day that after I woke up and I was feeling
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  Speaker 3: really sick, and it honestly like took me about three
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  Speaker 3: weeks to recover. It was a really bad one. I
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  Speaker 3: have small children. One of my kids is in well,
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  Speaker 3: today's his last day of daycare. He's going into big
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  Speaker 3: boys school tomorrow. And you know those kids in those daycares,
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  Speaker 3: they have some gnarly things that they bring home, and
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  Speaker 3: you never I never get like a little illness that
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  Speaker 3: lasts like two days. It's always like this epic plague
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  Speaker 3: that goes on for weeks and I think that I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to die, and like I still have to work
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  Speaker 3: and do all the things, and it's always just it's
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  Speaker 3: just wild.
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  Speaker 4: Oh we had no for sure, especially when you get
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  Speaker 4: kids in there around other kids got kids would start
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  Speaker 4: out hanging out of their noses, the running around, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: You walk into the daycare and the kids are just like.
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  Speaker 2: You're like.
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  Speaker 3: Here, come like I em raised myself.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so, uh I know before the show, Uh
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  Speaker 4: you know, I did. I did even have a question
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  Speaker 4: for you, But I guess now since I know the answer,
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  Speaker 4: I can skip. What got you into the occult? Well,
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  Speaker 4: I I guess I can still ask that, but it
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  Speaker 4: was you told me that it was actually you kind
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  Speaker 4: of science that actually brought you into that. So can
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  Speaker 4: you explain to us, like how you found yourself? Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, give us a little bit of that story,
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  Speaker 4: how you found yourself connecting the two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I think as a kid, I was
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  Speaker 3: always really attracted to science. I loved all my science
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  Speaker 3: classes growing up. I was always just like a really
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  Speaker 3: nerdy kid. But I also had a father who was
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  Speaker 3: always kind of like into oddities and he was a collector.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly I didn't I look back and I appreciate
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  Speaker 3: it now because I didn't really you know, as a kid,
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  Speaker 3: you're just like kind of in your own world. But
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  Speaker 3: so so I had that and my dad he would
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  Speaker 3: take me to like I mean, I grew up in Nebraska,
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  Speaker 3: so there's not like a lot of mystical things happening
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  Speaker 3: in Nebraska. I mean there are more now, but certainly
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  Speaker 3: not in the eighties when I was a kid. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, my dad actually is the one that bought
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  Speaker 3: me this crystal ball here when I was a kid
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  Speaker 3: at a witchy shop in Omaha, Nebraska. So this is
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  Speaker 3: like one of my favorite pieces, so I had to
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  Speaker 3: bring it on. But I was always just like really
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  Speaker 3: nerdy and science y. And then you know, I went
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  Speaker 3: off to college and like the whole world kind of
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  Speaker 3: expands for people, I think a lot when they go
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  Speaker 3: off to college and you really kind of start finding
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  Speaker 3: your identity. And I really started connecting with fairies and
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  Speaker 3: so that was like a really big thing for me,
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  Speaker 3: which it still is. I really got into fairies and
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  Speaker 3: fairy lore, and I started dabbling with crystals a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, as life has it, I had to
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  Speaker 3: figure out a way to provide for myself, and I
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  Speaker 3: had to make money. And I was like very focused on, like,
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  Speaker 3: what can I do because I don't to live in Nebraska.
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  Speaker 3: How am I gonna How am I gonna get myself
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  Speaker 3: out of the Midwest? Because I knew that that was
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  Speaker 3: not for me. So I went to school. I got
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  Speaker 3: a degree in genetics, and I then decided to go
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  Speaker 3: to PA school physician assistant because I felt like an
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  Speaker 3: easy path to like making money and I liked science,
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  Speaker 3: and I you know, I was really nerdy like that.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I did. But unfortunately, during all of that,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these things that I really love and
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  Speaker 3: all the mystical and magical things that are a big
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  Speaker 3: part of myself, I kind of put on a shelf
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  Speaker 3: and was just you know, going through my career in life.
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  Speaker 3: And so as I got older, you know, I had kids,
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  Speaker 3: and I was trying to check all the boxes in life,
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  Speaker 3: as we do, and you know, I ended up finding
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  Speaker 3: myself in a place where I felt like I had
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  Speaker 3: everything in life that I really that most people would
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  Speaker 3: really want and most people should feel very satisfied with
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  Speaker 3: their lives, and I felt a huge void. I have
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  Speaker 3: had a beautiful home, I have beautiful children, I have
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  Speaker 3: a great husband, like we're able to travel, we're able
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  Speaker 3: to do all the things, and I felt a huge,
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  Speaker 3: huge void, and I found myself feeling very depressed and
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  Speaker 3: like what there has to be something more for me.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's something more for me in this life.
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  Speaker 3: And I was on a girl's trip in Santa Fe,
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  Speaker 3: New Mexico, and I came across this crystal here it's
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  Speaker 3: called celastite, and I knew that I had to bring
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  Speaker 3: it home, and so I brought it home with me
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  Speaker 3: and I just started kind of like sitting with it
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  Speaker 3: at night and burning some incense or pallo santo, and
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  Speaker 3: it just like I don't know what it was, but
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  Speaker 3: it like activated something in my mind of like, wait
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  Speaker 3: a minute, this is me. I remember this part of
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  Speaker 3: myself that was like a huge part of myself, and
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  Speaker 3: it really just it really just evolved from there, like
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  Speaker 3: pretty quickly. So the crystals have been the biggest gateway
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 2: That's an awesome story that, Yeah, it's been.
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  Speaker 3: It's been quite the evolution. I mean it's like once
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  Speaker 3: that it's like once something kind of turned on, like
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  Speaker 3: like the volume just turned up really loud, and then
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  Speaker 3: I just like literally just jumped down the rabbit hole,
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  Speaker 3: and I cannot look back.
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  Speaker 5: Now when you were a kid, do you remember like
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  Speaker 5: specifically what it was that fascinated you about crystals or
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  Speaker 5: was it just kind of like an unexplained attraction.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I do recall when I was a kid. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't have we didn't have electronics and things like
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  Speaker 3: you know that the kids have now. We had to
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  Speaker 3: go and play outside. So I spent a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time at my grandmother's house, and she lived next to
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  Speaker 3: a man who was I mean, we would probably consider
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  Speaker 3: him a hoarder in today's sense. And so this older man,
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  Speaker 3: he was very eccentric, and he had all this stuff
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  Speaker 3: that was like basically like kind of spilling out of
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  Speaker 3: the back of his house. And my cousins and I
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  Speaker 3: we would always be like creeping around the back of
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  Speaker 3: his house and finding like he had like this huge
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  Speaker 3: col election of cemetery wreaths that were always spilling out
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  Speaker 3: of the back, and like one day we found this
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  Speaker 3: huge piece of rose quartz, like this huge chunk of
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  Speaker 3: rose quarts. My cousin still has it at her house,
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  Speaker 3: and I just remember thinking like, oh my gosh, this
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  Speaker 3: is just so cool, Like this is the most magical
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  Speaker 3: thing that I've ever seen in my life. And like,
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  Speaker 3: we really loved that crystal, and I'm so glad that
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  Speaker 3: she still has it. But you know, it was something
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  Speaker 3: like that, it just felt like otherworldly. And I also
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  Speaker 3: remember like we would search for a fool's gold. My
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  Speaker 3: grandma's neighbor had like the white rock, but it had
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  Speaker 3: like the pyrite on it, and so we would always
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  Speaker 3: collect the fools gold. I mean, I didn't know. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know that it was actually a crystal. I just thought,
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  Speaker 3: you know, everybody said it was a fool's gold, so
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was just fake. But then we would
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  Speaker 3: try to sell the fools gold to the neighbor kids
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  Speaker 3: and nobody, nobody wanted to buy it from us. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just always been that fascination and I
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  Speaker 3: always felt this like connection to you know that my
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  Speaker 3: dad got me my crystal ball. And interestingly enough, though
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  Speaker 3: he's not that comfortable with me being like occulty now,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't know, I'm like, you're the one that
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  Speaker 3: started it, but now you've kind of read it out
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  Speaker 3: by it though I don't know how that works.
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  Speaker 2: But okay, figure uh.
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  Speaker 4: I find it interesting that not to you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of go backwards and get off the crystals for a second.
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  Speaker 2: But I found it interesting. You picked genetics. What was it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What was that? Like?
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  Speaker 4: That's your like, that's your thing, that's what you were
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  Speaker 4: really into. Are you still into that now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I have this book, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: I just put it downstairs that I bought, and it
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  Speaker 3: was it's a book about like magic and your genetics.
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  Speaker 3: And I haven't read it yet, but yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I always thought that that was like a really fascinating
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  Speaker 3: aspect of science. I love learning about really cooky, like
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  Speaker 3: crazy like genetic medical conditions that people will inherit, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the that they'll have these congenital disorders. And I just
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  Speaker 3: always thought that that was super fascinating and it is
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  Speaker 3: very rigorous work, the call it that, you know, going
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  Speaker 3: to school for that was very rigorous. And it was
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  Speaker 3: challenging too, because all of my friends in college were
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  Speaker 3: really more they were I lived in the art storm,
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  Speaker 3: so everybody was like into arts and music, and here
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  Speaker 3: I am like studying hardcore science. And you know, my
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  Speaker 3: college boyfriend was in like all these metal bands, and
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  Speaker 3: I was going out to all these metal shows and like,
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  Speaker 3: but then I have to go home and like study
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  Speaker 3: for my genetics, you know. But I mean that was
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  Speaker 3: just me. I I never Yeah, I mean that I
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  Speaker 3: just always felt more called to that type of it
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  Speaker 3: was easier for me. You know. It's like science is
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  Speaker 3: easier for me than like making a painting or being
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  Speaker 3: creative in that sense.
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  Speaker 4: I got it. I'm very intrigued by science myself. I
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  Speaker 4: just thought that was really cool. Genetics. I mean it's yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's a very interesting topic. I mean depending you know,
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  Speaker 4: even just like looking and I mean do you ever
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  Speaker 4: have you ever like started to try to like look
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  Speaker 4: into like I guess, like where things come from and
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  Speaker 4: the migration and stuff like that, like animals or human lines.
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  Speaker 2: Like withthologenetics.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm just saying that because we used to have
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  Speaker 4: somebody on the show that was really big into that
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  Speaker 4: stuff and they were like trying to map like horses
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  Speaker 4: and dogs because it because it does kind of show
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  Speaker 4: the traveling of man.
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  Speaker 2: As well, just weird stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: They would think of you and dove into that myself,
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  Speaker 3: but it's just an example. Yeah. No, I really haven't
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  Speaker 3: dove into that too much myself because it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like there's so many things that I
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  Speaker 3: have interested in it. It's it's hard to like it's
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  Speaker 3: hard to tackle all of them at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I still work full time and I
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  Speaker 3: have the kids, and it's just like very chaotic. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, I do, I do feel a passion towards
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  Speaker 3: kind of exploring that. I have another friend, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and kind of the magical community that's interested in genetics
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  Speaker 3: and magic and all of these things. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: like these codes that are written into our genes, like
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  Speaker 3: the you know, how all this stuff can be passed
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  Speaker 3: on to us from you know, generations back that's still
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  Speaker 3: in us. You know, all the like the traumas and
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  Speaker 3: the things that people go through, they carry that in
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  Speaker 3: their genes. And I find that really fascinating too. I
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  Speaker 3: just haven't really started exploring that, but I definitely definitely
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  Speaker 3: would love to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh interesting stuff, that's cool. Yeah when you said that,
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  Speaker 4: I just piqued my interest to find that stuff to
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  Speaker 4: be very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Genetics, y Yeah, did you U had somebody on the
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  Speaker 2: show one time? Maybe you would even know this. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: I think they were talking about how sorry to get
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  Speaker 4: off the topic out. It was just really interested in
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  Speaker 4: this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I love talking about it, and this is fun. I
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  Speaker 3: never really get to talk about this stuff because I
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  Speaker 3: don't really I have nobody in my world that really
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  Speaker 3: ever wants to chat about these things.
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  Speaker 4: So I think they were talking about how like sometimes
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  Speaker 4: when things get like changed, mutated, like it might be
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  Speaker 4: with viruses or something like that, that if I found
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  Speaker 4: it interesting as a magician, because sometimes I do think
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  Speaker 4: occult this, especially in ciphers that will use palindromes and
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  Speaker 4: oh they'll do stuff with that, and you know how
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  Speaker 4: there's like you know, code and stuff like supposedly they
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  Speaker 4: always insert themselves at an area where there's actually a palindrome.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard that before. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, so weird.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah that you know, I guess how there's like
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  Speaker 4: some sort of numerical code and your shit that that's
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  Speaker 4: where it always inserts itself, is in between a palindrome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: See, now you're picking my interest and I'm like more
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  Speaker 3: things to explore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you smoke weed?
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  Speaker 5: Me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I used to?
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  Speaker 2: I have no Yeah, see, if you did.
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  Speaker 4: You'd probably have weird ideas like this, It's.
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  Speaker 3: It makes me like anxious.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it's so weird, Like I was like that for
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  Speaker 2: a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's like that was like always
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  Speaker 3: something that we were up to when we were when
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  Speaker 3: I was younger, and then and then now like in California,
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  Speaker 3: of course it's egal and stuff, and so I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get some stuff and just like check
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  Speaker 3: it out. And then I'm like, oh, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if I like it anymore. It's kind of.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I had stopped in my late twenties because
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  Speaker 4: it just wasn't affecting me the same anymore. And then
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  Speaker 4: when COVID came, I was like, oh I gotta get
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  Speaker 4: stolen if I got to go out and public and
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: deal with this, like I cannot do this so fair. Yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I started literally started smoking weed again because of the COVID.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: COVID experience, well, the world did go crazy. I was like,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: what is happening?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I'll just stay in my own head.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I'll have a Pink Floyd soul going on, and I'll
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: just go food shop and pin on mind.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'll have to get through
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: it somehow.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, for re my coping mechanism, I went back
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to weed. But oh my gosh.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I used to do that all the time, like where
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I would like get high and then like I would
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: play music and then I would like walk around and
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: like pretend like I was inside of like the music videos.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And it's so fun to do that. I love that,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: And I'd be like, walk my headphones on. I'm like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: they know what music I'm listening to?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, you're in the video right what music video I'm in?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That's funny. That was so fun.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I should revisit that a really good escape. Sometimes a
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: mom needs an escape.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, I don't doubt it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess, uh, now you are into other
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: things besides crystals as well, correct, Oh.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean crystals. Like I said, like, the crystals
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: have been the gateway, but I would say that it
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: is a significant part of my practice, but it's not
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: the only thing. I mean, it's definitely the thing behind
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: like how I came up with my podcast name, But
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of what I like to share on the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: podcast is that, you know, big Crystal energy is not
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: just about crystals, really, what it is to me is
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: like imagine, okay, I have a really good crystal here
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: for an example. Oh it's a big one. So I
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: have this huge piece of labradorite. Nice, And I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: to myself, like big crystal energy, Like imagine all the
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: energy that it took to make this crystal and all
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the energy that it has, Like that's a big energy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: So big crystal energy to me is like just like
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: that big energy, like having that big energy for your life,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: for your goals, for the things that you're excited about.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: So it's so much more just like than beyond the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: crystal itself. Does that make sense?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: No, totally good. It totally good. You know.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I even was watching, I happened to notice he went
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: live and for some reason he tagged me and it
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: so it hit me up. But Billy Calson went live.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know who he is. He's
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: more of the conspiracy community, but he's like somebody who
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: doesn't you know, deals with a lot of archaeology. And
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: they were like going he was going in and mentioning
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: like all these like even scientific papers where they're really
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: starting to find out some wild stuff with crystals. Man,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: like to where it's like, you know, I really wish sometimes,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: like the I think if the occult community and the
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: conspiracy community could actually kind of like get along, because
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the conspiracy community thinks we're all like Satanists. But you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: if we were able to come come together and like
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: actually look at because a lot of us are looking
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: at the same stuff just in different ways. Yes, and
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I think if we actually came together, we could make
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: huge progress and understanding things.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But it's just like, you know, I was watching.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: That, I was like, damn, you just got a couple
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: of occultists in there with you, Billy, And I'm pretty
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: sure you'd be even more amazed.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: You know, it's so true. It's so true.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I have so I do bi weekly episodes. So one
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: of my episodes on Tuesdays is called the Crystal Library,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and I pick you know, every week, I pick a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: different stone and I do all this research on it
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: and because I like, because you know how you go
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: into a metaphysical shop and you see all the crystals
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and the tumbles and they all have the little labels
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: that say like what they're for, And I'm always like, well,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: why why does it have that label? Like why is
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: rose Court's love and self love and all these things
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and why does this is this, this and this and
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I and I was like, well, where is that coming from?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Did someone just make that up? Or like what is
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: that all about? And it's so interesting. So I do
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: these deep dives on these crystals, and like some of
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: them have been used since like way way, way, way
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: way back, and so to me, it's so interesting how
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: like a lot of people will tease me or make
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: fun of me about crystals, and it's like these things
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: have been used for thousands and thousands of years. This
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: is not just like new way like new agey. Yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: like sometimes people come across as new Agy, but realistically,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff is used in our science.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It's been used for thousands of years across civilizations around
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the world. And interestingly enough, like some of civilizations that
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: had no way to connect with each other, the way
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that they were using certain crystals was similar. I mean,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: you know, and like for spiritual purposes and like for
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: whatever purposes. So it's not just like just like this
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: kind of corny thing that people are making up like
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: in the New Agy kind of community.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: No, I think unfortunately still.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Gets that, you know, I mean, honestly, people tease me
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: about it pretty much daily. Oh it's just you and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: your crystals. It's like, yeah, but if you actually knew,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it's a lot more than that.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I totally agree.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I uh, you know, I even think, you know, looking
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: back at old technology, I just my opinion, you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: old old architecture and stuff like that. I do think,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: you know, like you're saying with the crystals, all of
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like a new agey thing. I think
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: we're just coming back back around and remembering or finding
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: out again how important these things are, because I do
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: think we understood this thousands of years ago.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I mean there's stuff in like India where they're like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: you know, finding these these monuments and it's like, we'd
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: have to use lasers to make this.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Now we just say they weren't doing it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Then you just need light and a bunch of reflective fractions,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: you know, off of different crystals.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Keep on bouncing and you'll eventually get a laser that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: will do something.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: No, it's so fascinating, and I you know that that's
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: a big thing that I've really been enjoying, is like
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: doing these really intense deep dives on the stones and
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: covering why certain things are attributed to them and where
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: they come from and why how how people have been
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: using them for thousands of years. And I think that
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: because when people want to work with stones, I think
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: it can feel very overwhelming because it's like you feel
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: this sense of like, Okay, well, how am I going
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: to remember what every single thing is, what each one
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: is supposed to be for, and how how you can
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: use it? And I I personally feel very overwhelmed by
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: that too. I mean I can't. I mean, even as
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: someone that sits and like works with stones and stuff
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: like that, I can't just sit here and rattle off
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: like fifty different stones and every single one of their purposes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Like I my brain just doesn't hold information like that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I have to. I have to connect with the stone
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: and like I have to understand it's history and like
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: it's folklore and all of those things to really connect
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: all the dots so that I can internalize it and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: really understand what it's meant for. And even then, even then,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I like to say, like if you if you see
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: a stone and it says that it's supposed to be
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: for luck and joy and all these things, and when
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you hold that stone, you don't feel that from the stone,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: like you don't like you should you should use it
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: in the way that feels like what you're connecting with
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: that stone.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that too.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Because there's no right or wrong right. It's kind of
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: like religion and things like that, Like there's so many
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: different religions around the world, Like how could anyone say
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: one is more right than another one.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of times that would get stones literally
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: just for like the planetary attributes, for doing ceremonial magic.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: But if there was ones that I wanted to get
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: to be as like a main piece or like a
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: really main idea, I had to just kind of go
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: with like what seemed to catch my eye, and I
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: felt the best holding.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, I think that's the best way. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: think that's the best way, honestly, because if you don't
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: feel a connection to something, you're not you know, if
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: you're not feeling a connection to something, then how is
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that going to work for you? I Mean, there's a
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: lot of stones that are very that people love, that
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: are really famous and things like that, and I'm like, eah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: not really for me, I know, I.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Know what you mean.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure exactly, Eric, was there anything you wanted
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: to say before I go somewhere else with this?
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I really I like the idea of like
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: getting that intuitive connection and kind of ignoring all the
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: metaphysical labels for a little bit, going into a crystal
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: shop and like asking your body, what do you need
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: right now? And then you walk around and you kind
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: of feel the different things and you see what pulls you,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: and then you look at the label and you see
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: what that thing is for, and it's kind of like
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: you're finding your own medicine. But Ashally, you were mentioning
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: going on deep dives in the sert crystals, and you
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: also mentioned rose Cords. Have you done a deep dive
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: on rose Cords?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I did? I did. I've done a lot I've done,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Like I was just counting yesterday, I think I've done
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: like sixty sixty deep dives so far. Yeah. Yeah, so
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I've covered a lot of like the most, I've covered
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: most of the common stones that people would have heard of.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But you know, I also kind of try to, like
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: with my podcast, like every month, I try to have
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: like an overarching theme of like the type of content
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: that I want to have that month, So I try
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: to kind of pair crystals with those kinds of themes too,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: so it's like kind of you know, a lot of
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: different moving parts, but yeah, so lots of different stones.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: So if someone is interested, I probably have already done
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: an episode on it, and I'm planning to keep those
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: episodes going as long as I can because there's so
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: many stones, Like you could go on, and probably next
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: year when I start the fourth season of the podcast,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I'll probably only do two crystals a month because I
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: have other things that I want to start doing on
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: those Tuesday episodes as well. But I mean, you could
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: just go on and on and on because there's so
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: many and they're so interesting and often they're so different.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: You know what's funny. I had Dinner series and I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: still not finished. I did a series of where I
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: covered herbs and how they affect your cranial nerves and.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Then I fascinating wow.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: And then when when I decided to start doing that,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I even started compiling, I wanted to cover crystals and
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: like cover like you know, the piece of electricity, the
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: em all that stuff that goes with Yeah, and I've
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: had that sitting for I don't know, probably a year
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: and when I came across your show, I was like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: you know, now, if I ever decided to do this,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like biting off her because you
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: already started covering the crystal. You know, I was even
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: thinking I should.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm not like into I mean, I like to
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: work with herbs a little bit, but like for me,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I don't have that strong inclination towards it. So I
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: love to hear, I love to learn about it, but
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it's just not something I want to necessarily work with.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Oh I have a black thumb. I kill everything, even succulents.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: So but I was even thinking some of the stuff
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: that I have, I should get you email. Maybe I
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: could send you like the Google document myself. I'll show
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you this stuff, like I've actually with some of the
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: crystals I haven't covered. I pulled stuff on like academic
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: research and all that shit. I mean, I'm sure you
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: can get your us on that as well. But I'll
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: send it over to you. Maybe you can. You can
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: use any of it if you ever want to cover stuff.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because I think it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: actually there's a lot, there's a yes, there's a lot
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: of information in these things that I think people should
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: just know so it doesn't have to come out of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: my mouth necessarily.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: You know, you love research.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's all I do.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: It's all you do.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: I'll come up with an idea, something that interests me
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: that has to do with the occult, and if it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: like actually something that is you know there, I'm like, oh,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I just turned it into a series or a show.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: And that's how I just keep going with all my shows.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: It's all things that I'm really wondering about myself.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: How long have you been doing your show?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I've been doing it five years, but the way I've
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: been doing it now, it's probably been about a year
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and a half. I started doing my own solo stuff
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: so I can just cover like you know, that's trying
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: to sound like fascist, but if you know, if I
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: do the topic myself, it's going to go the way
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I want it to go, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: So you know, so sometimes you know, I do solo
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: shows now when I try to do deep dives into topics,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: and I do try to use a lot of academian
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: science for backup and stuff.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, your podcast is pretty prolific. I was like
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: looking through all your episodes and I'm just.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, thank you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. A lot of you have a lot
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: of I'm trying trying to educate people.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Wow, I know, I love it. I love it. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: love listening. I'm always yeah, I love listening to all
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: these because I think a lot of the topics that
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: you talk about are things that I personally too. I'm
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: like very interested in, you know, and so I think,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, part of the thing is like maybe you're
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: like this too. The reason I started my podcast is
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: because there's a lot of things that I want to learn,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: but if I it's more fun to learn it and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: then share it with other people, or like I love
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I love meeting all these different kinds of people. But
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you know, but I love meeting them and then also
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: sharing them with other people because you know, I mean,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: that's that's pretty much what I did because I wanted
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: to learn about crystals. But then it's like, well, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: don't really see myself working in I don't really have
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the opportunity or the time to like work in a
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: shop and like do crystal healing, like that because I'm
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: already working a lot as it is, So how am
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I going to take all this information that I'm learning
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: and like what am I going to do with it?
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: And so then I, I mean, I've always been a
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: big podcast fan, so that's how I was like, Oh, well,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I'll just turn it into a podcast, because there really weren't.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: There's really not. There's really not that many of crystal
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: podcasts out there, to be honest, there's really not. There's
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: a couple like the one that I the one that
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I originally got that I started listening to. It was
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: called the Love and Light Podcast, and I don't think
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: it's even going on anymore. And this woman she ran
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: this crystal healing school, just like online school, called Love
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: and Light School, and that's where I did a lot
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of my initial training. But the thing that I kind
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: of struggle with is that a lot of times with crystals, especially,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: they're always there, there's always that love and light. People
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: always think of like love and light with crystals, And
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not really a love and light kind of girl.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I could I could tell. I could tell already when
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I went through you.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not like I am, like, I'm happy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I like, like.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I like darker. I like to talk about like the
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: shadow side of crystals, the darker side of crystals, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: like the darker history of them and things like that,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and that just you don't see.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: That that's the reality of life.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: But that's the reality. And one of my other teachers
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: that I'm working with currently, her name is Krista Mitchell.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you're familiar with her, but she
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: she's been working with crystals and that's like what she
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: does for her for her work, like primarily as work
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: with stones, and she works with like the Acostic records,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: and she she really teaches you how to like channel
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: channel through the energy of crystals and and and really
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: use their energy to do healing work. And so that's
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: kind of something that I've been in training with right
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: now with her, and she really uses it to like
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: heal you know, things within our genes and like long
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you know from past lives, like traumas and things from
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: past lives, like through the crystals and things like that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: And I find that work really really intriguing and fascinating
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: and it's just not a way that you see it
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: approach that often. And so when I found her work
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and I connected with her. I was like, this is
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: this is like what is meant for me? And how
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I like to look at things because I I've just
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: always been like, I like I like the dark side
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: of things. Also, hey, you guys, one hundred days until
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Halloween officially.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Today that I love Halloween. Of course.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I had to wear my skulls today until one hundred
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: days until Halloween. Yeah. I went downstairs this morning to
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: a complete bone yard. Of my kids are like really
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: into skeletons, and so I went downstairs and my son
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: was home yesterday and he had all of the skeletons
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: from all of his toys, Like our whole living room
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: is like a boneyard now. And I was like, oh, okay,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I guess he's ready.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: To somebody asked in the chat before they mentioned oh yeah,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: they said something about and I totally forgot how crystals,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: you know, are the OG flash drive you know, and
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: that there can be stuff stored in crystals, you know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I have wondered again, even going back to like sometimes
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I even think that even the occult I think there
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: is actually some sort of occult science behind it, and
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: maybe it gets misunderstood. And then just isn't done completely correct.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I have wondered could that even be the idea of like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you know this. A lot of times they suggest, oh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: you should cleanse your stones after you bring it home
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: from the store.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: You know, yes, consecrate your stone.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Is that because there was a knowing before in the
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: past that you could actually possibly charge that stuff with
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: information and you should probably wipe it clean? I would say,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like you all you have to wonder
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: about ideas like that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It's like, hmm, oh, yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: There there's another really interesting author and crystal guru essentially,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Nicholas Pearson, and he and he he he does a
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: lot of interesting work. You know who Nicholas Pearson is.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: He does a lot of it. Yeah, around like the
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: things that are held within the crystals and their memory,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: and you know, not only that, but like if you're
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: in a shop, like they're picking up if you if
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: you have them in the shop, who knows how long
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: they've been sitting there and absorbing the energy of all
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: the people that come in and out of the shop.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: And so when you bring them home, you definitely want
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: to cleanse them in whatever way is appropriate for the
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: type of stone that you have just to to get
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: off whatever energy that is and start fresh with your
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: own energy. But you know, we also carry a lot
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: of different energies in our own homes. And I mean
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: every day is not peaceful in my house. It's never peaceful.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: It's pure chaos at all times. And so you know,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: people fight, people are bickering, there's joy, there's all the things,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: and so you definitely want to you know, clear things.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: But you know, it doesn't have to be complicated. I mean,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't have to be like, well, I'm
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: going to gather every single stone, you know, under the
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: full moon, and like, I don't think that that necessarily
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: has to be how it goes.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Well outside of just like picking up energy and like
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: residual traces of whatever is left over, which crystals do
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: really well, but also everything else in the world tends
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: to do that also. But there's there's like a specific
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: type of quartz formation, and I forget exactly what the
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: characteristics are, like maybe how many sides it has and
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: like how slanty the top is something like that, Yeah,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: but it's it's called a record keeper courts. And I
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: think there is there is this idea that like beyond
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: just carrying energy, they also store information and they have
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: stored information across time. I don't have a lot of
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: info on that, but like I know that concept is
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. Like that, I've been looking for
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a record keeper courts and I can't seem to I
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: can't seem to find one. I want to find. I
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: kind of like to acquire my pieces in person. I
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: don't really Sometimes I'll order a stone or something online,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: but it has to be from somewhere that I'm really
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: familiar with, and I or like a seller that I'm
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: really familiar with. And but I'm wanting to find one.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And because the Krista who I'm who I work with,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: you know, she really likes, she really recommends having a
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: record keeper courts to you know, work with the Acostiac
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Records and things like that, and I just haven't been
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: able to find one. But I I'm really fascinated by
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: that too. And I feel that probably I'm going to
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: be doing an episode for the podcast soon about that
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: particular stone, because I do find it very fascinating and
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know that much about it. I honestly like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I can't give you a deep dive on it because
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I haven't done a deep dive myself, but it is
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: definitely one of those that I feel like in the
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: near future I do want to do, like really explore
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: because I find that history very fascinating.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: One thing this just made me think of I don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: know if you guys know who Anthonysian's churature is, but
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: he was a sixteen hundreds German polymath and he was
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: an occult, this alchemist, but yeah, it was also a
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Jesuit scholar. And he said back then in the sixteen
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: hundreds that he believed in the future that with light
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and crystals that we'd be able to transport spirits demons.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: And it's like, if you really start looking at our
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: technology and how optical cable even works, I mean, was
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: he really that wrong? I mean that you could look
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: at a screen and it will light up, and that
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: could really get people act in one way or another, Like.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. I mean, and think about like even
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: something that just kind of popped into my head, like
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: you light up a screen, people will act a certain way.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, like even if you have a flashing screen
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: or something like that could set off a seizure in someone.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're totally right. I hate certain sounds to it.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Who knows what you can.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Do, right, I mean yeah, I mean even like lights there,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: you go to amusement parks, you go to roller coasters, like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: certain things will tell you have to be careful because
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: of seizure activity.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, concerts mm hmm. Yeah, it's interest a lot
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: I'd love those those like predictions from like five hundred
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: years ago, a thousand years ago, right, because if you
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: think about it, like if you took someone from a
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: thousand years ago and you showed them this world with technology,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: and you showed them like a phone or a computer
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: and they were looking at the screen, it like it
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: could be a very logical conclusion for them to say
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: something like there's a demon or there's a spirit in
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: that thing. And so then you go back to how
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: they would describe it within their time, is that like
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: you know, people were using light and crystal to transport
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: spirits and so like, did they actually get a glimpse
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: of the future somehow and this is the best they
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: could describe it. I think that's fascinating.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's true.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I mean think about like some of the horrible things
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: that people watch through. There's horrible things and atrocities that
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: you can watch through your screen on your phone. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: mean potentially there is a lot of There is a
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: lot of bad things that could potentially come through a
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: phone screen. I mean there's a lot of good too, Yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: But I mean you could get both ends of the spectrum,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: and if you didn't know what you were looking at,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: you could be quite terrified. Honestly. I mean I'm terrified
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: sometimes when I see things that pop up. I'm like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: oh my.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: God, you know, and I've seen some people in the
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: past kind of like twist the way he was saying it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: But you know, I am athelum.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with everything that Croley probably did, but
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: I do think he was an o cult genius. He
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: at one point I'd even said, in the future, even
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: kids are going to be exposed to the most horrific
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: things that man can do, and that's totally possible with
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: the fucking cell phone.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Now, dude, It's so true. It's so true. I well,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I am sometimes so horrified, Like my kids will my
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: kids will get on their you know, tablets or whatever,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: and it's like all of a sudden, you know, they're
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: just watching like whatever it is that they like, and
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: then some crazy other video will come in and I'll
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: hear it and I'm just like, what in the world
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: is this, And I'll look and it's like these horri
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: horrible like terrifying thing, But like the algorithm eventually starts
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: feeding them this horrible stuff and then it's like once
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: they click on that, then that's all that keeps coming through.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Then it will non stop feed them this horrible stuff,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and it's so hard to then get that off and
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: just have them go back to like the regular little
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: like cutesy kid stuff that they were watching.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: No, I've even watched that happen myself on Instagram, going
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: through stuff, going through reels and happen to like something
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: that is just kind of like normally not something I'd
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: be seen, but happened to just show up. And then
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the next three are all that
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: same type of topic. I'm like, what the fuck that's
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: quite obvious now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah now, and then it's like it's so hard to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: get that out of there. It just keeps wanting to
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: come in, Like yeah, you have to go in there
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and hit not interested.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Actually if that helps.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like, gosh, then it makes me
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: feel like I have to be very carefu and very
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: discerning about what I anything that I click on, because
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, am I gonna want more of this?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's not even worth it for me to even
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: look at that at all.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: So I see people are those couple of people might
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: be the same person you're in the chat mentioned in
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: psio electricity. Did you ever kind of look into that
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: stuff when it comes to crystals, Yeah, a little bit.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I do love it where it's kind of fun. You know.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: We've done little little experiments like with my kids, like
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I'll take the crystals and like you know, you can
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: take like quartz crystals and things like that and rub
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: them together. Like I'll be like, hey, let's go into
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: the closet.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get like sparks, like.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Little sparks and stuff. That's kind of fun. I haven't
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: really explored it too much beyond that, but I do
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: find that really really interesting.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now, uh, is there anything because I think I'm
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: pretty sure what I was doing research into it. Again,
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: it was so long ago when I was looking into
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the crystals. I was looking to see if anything with
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: like kind of like magneticism and stuff like that. I
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: think ones that might kind of like be closer to
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: that are also very known for banishing. It might incorrect
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: with that maybe, like some of the black stones always
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: seem to be used for banishing, and those kind of
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: actually have more of an absorption like in a magnet.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like the.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Is it hematite, Yeah, that one does, it is magnetized, right, Yeah. Yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: you get the rings, they're all stuck to each other
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: as you're trying to pull them apart in the in
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: the crystal store to get one of the rings.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of fun.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: I mean I think a lot of times people can
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: will will associate darker stones with banishing, obsidian, blacktormaline, onyx, jet,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: things like that, because they do absorb a lot of things.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: But you know, I personally don't do any vanishing work,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: so I do have somebody that I would like to
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: do some vanishing work around, so I'm not against it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: But it was even mean and more like sometimes people
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: get it to like kind of like cleanse their space
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: almost like an incense.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love. I have a couple of pieces
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: here on my desk that I always keep I keep
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: on my desk, like I have this really cool black
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: tormaline piece that I got at this beautiful shop in
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and it's got I think it's got like
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: some like rutilated quurts on it too. And I always
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: love this piece on my desk because it always like
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I come in here and I do my little ritual
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: before I start any recordings or I start any research,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: and it always just feels like the right piece for me.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I also have this other really cool piece that I
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: recently acquired at a crystal fair in San Francisco, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: it's a skull. It doesn't really show up that well here,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: but it's skull and that it's got like a snake. Yeah,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: and it's it's I think this is obsidian.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: So that's actually good to uh you keep up by
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: your stuff that actually helps absorb themf oh nice, that
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: was like another thing that was getting I like, it's
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: it's interesting how like that would be used to absorb
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: negative energy and yet it will absorb em f which
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: would too much of it mess you up. So it's
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: like interesting how you kind of see these correlations even
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: with some science.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: It is interesting and that's why I like, I know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of people just don't really understand, and that's
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: why there's a lot of kind of at times, there
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: can be a lot of teasing and mockery about the
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: things that I'm into. And I get that because people
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: just don't really understand. But I think that if if
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: they saw how a lot of us approach it, they
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: would realize that it's not just sillier like these things
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: actually have a purpose and it's so much more than
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: just it being like used for love and light and
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: pretty little things and things like that. It's it's it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: a lot deeper than that. And you know, so it's
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: sometimes hard for me to reconcile that, and I don't,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: you know, and I'm never I'm never someone that's out
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: there trying to convince anybody of anything. You know, it's
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: like you do you but I think that I think that,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of room for for these
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: practices and these understandings to become more widely accepted.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I'm just doing my little piece
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: as i as I can and trying to get people
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: to realize, like you can be a very you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: you can walk that line between having a job, like
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: a hardcore like science job treating people medically, but then
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: also having this connection to the metaphysical world and you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and not and sometimes there's a lot of sometimes two
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I kind of like not really completely fully knowing what
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: you know to me that that I like that too,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Like I like a little bit of the mystery, like
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: this is working for me, and I don't understand one
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: hundred percent of why it's working, but I just know
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: that it is.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I Oh, no, for sure, No, I get that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I do think though in the next i'd probably say
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: maybe five, maybe ten years, I do think science some
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: of the stuff that I've been coming across in the
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: last few years, it seems to be progressing towards kind
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: of like entertaining the occult. You're entertaining things that are
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: used in magic and rituals. And I do think eventually
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: they're going to show that's you know, a lot of
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: the stuff that people might think that like it's silly
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: at woo woo, there's actually some serious science behind it,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: I believe.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: So, I mean we're seeing it little by little, yeah,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: and I I'm here for it. I mean, I just
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: think what I think, you know that there's a lot
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: of people out there that are suffering in different ways,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: and you know, whether that's physical pain or you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: anguish or depression or whatever, and everybody is going to
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: respond to different types of treatment. And you know, for me,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: like I was very you know, feeling down and sad
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: and depressed and I'm taking anti I was taking anti
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: depressants and still feeling terrible, and I was able to
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: connect with a stone and it literally completely, like literally
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: completely changed the course of my life. And I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: there's something to that, and I don't really know how
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: to prove that, but I know that it's true. I
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: mean literally every person in my life, in my close
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: circle of friends and family, like they can see that
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: there was this huge shift. And so, you know, people
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: heal in different ways. Some people their healing will come
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: through regular therapy, or their healing will come through medication,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: or you know, whatever different modality there is. And for me,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: this is what worked and it continues to work.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: So what stone brought you so much healing?
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Well, it was this piece here, this celestite. I didn't
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: even know what it was when I when I went
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: into I was on this girl's trip in New Mexico
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Santa Fe, New Mexico, which is a very spiritual place,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: which I didn't really even know that at the time.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Like I was so deep and dark in my hole
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: that I was just like, I need to get out
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: of here. I need to go have a weekend with
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: my girlfriends, who are all just like they're all PA
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: this particular group of friends we've been friends for nearly
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: twenty years where we all went to PA school together.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: But we're all like very witchy, very magical people, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: so we always picked these like random places to meet
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: up because we all live all over the country now.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: And you know, I was in such a dark place
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: and I remember just having a very hard time even
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: connecting and enjoying my time with my girlfriends on this trip.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: And you know, when I found this stone, I didn't
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: know what it was. I just saw this bowl of
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: these crystals and I was just like, oh my gosh,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I need to have it. And I think it was
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: like twenty five dollars, and I was like, twenty five dollars.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Am I really going to spend twenty five dollars on
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: a crystal? I mean, I've spent a lot more on
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: crystals now, way more on crystals now, But like you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: at the time, I had never I had only ever
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: really bought like little tumbles that only cost a dollar
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: or two. I never had bought a big, like a
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: piece that was like over twenty dollars. I mean, now
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I'm looking back, like twenty five dollars is literally nothing,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: like what was I even thinking? But you know, at
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: that time, it felt like is this kind of silly?
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: But you know, I just felt this urge and this pull.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: So now this is like this is like my I mean,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: it sounds silly to say this, but this is like
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: my friend. Like anytime I ever have to come back
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: to something like, this is the one that I always
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: This is the one that I always go to. And
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: I have lots of other pieces of cell stype, but
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: it's always this particular one. And it just was like,
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know, there was just something like I don't
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: even know how to explain it, Like there was just
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: some sort of like connection like to me and like
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: my soul and I felt found it. I don't know
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: if it was the blue or what it was exactly,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: or the sparkles or something, but it was just like
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: this knowing like this is who you are, Like you
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: need to connect with who you are, Like you have
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: something magical inside you and you've and you've not been
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: using that. You have not been using your magic for
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: so long, like now is the time, you know. And
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: then I and then I really just I think maybe
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I bought a book on crystals or something after that,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, I really don't know. Like that
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: kind of time period is kind of fuzzy because I
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: was still coming out of that like depressive state, so
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: it was still kind of like a challenging time. It's
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: not like it's not like, you know, the the depression
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: and anxiety and all that stuff just like turns off,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: you know, It's it's still there, lingers. But it definitely
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: started getting much better, and I would say like within
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: six months it was so much better. The other thing
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I did for myself during that time was I started
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: getting reiki and that was huge too.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, I've had that one before.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if you've ever had anyone on
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: your your podcast to talk about riki, but that's really
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: fascinating as well. And that was a huge that like
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: really that was another thing that really opened up a
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: lot for me too.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Hmm. You know, I'm trying to think.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I've never had anybody going specifically
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: talk about Ricky that much. I know it's been brought up,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: you know something you were mentioning it. I guess Eric
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: kind of even said that, you know what, you know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: what stone was it that healed you? That's one of
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of to get into the healing of
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: the personal self, you know, through a lot of these
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: especially my Mechanics and Magic series. The whole reason I'm
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: even covering that and showing, like you know, I've covered
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: singing bowls, I want to get to crystals eventually, you know, herbs,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: scrying mirrors, all these things that you know, a magician
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: would normally have on their altar that they would use
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: as a ceremonial magician. If you study even sigils. I
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: haven't done that yet, but I have that ready to go.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: There is like tons of actual and it's been recent.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: A lot of it's been recent by the last ten years,
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: which is why I think it's picking up more. A
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: lot of scientific studies on these things, and they are
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: noticing one common thing that happens with all these things,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: they affect the practitioner. They do something to the practitioner's
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: nervous system, and that's all due to you know, other
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: stuff going on in the brain. But if you really,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, if we really started looking at these
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: tools that we're using and realizing how much they affect us,
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: I do you think, like kind of what you're getting at,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: you can start really I guess, healing yourself in certain ways,
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Because you're gonna notice like
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: certain things that hit your nervous system too. I mean,
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: that's why I even wanted to cover the nerves. You know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: certain ones that attack your that hit your vegus nerve.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: That's going to be a real help for stomach issues
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: because it goes from your throat down to your your
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: private you know, down to your down there. So it's
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: just like you know, that affects a whole thing. So
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: if you have a herb that's going to affect that,
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: then you know it can help with some of those things.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: So I just you know, I think if we started
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: looking at those things, I think a little bit more
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: scientific and seeing how much it affects us, we could
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: really get some some breakthroughs as well.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, you know we in traditional in
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: traditional crystal healing the way that I was taught originally.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you have all these different stones
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: and you lay them either on different like energy center,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: chakras or you or certain stones are associated with healing
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: of different organs and things like that, and you lay
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: the stones on like you know, grid them out on
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: the on the body for healing of different areas and
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and I think that can be effective. I mean, I'm
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: not gonna say, like, if you have kidney cancer, you're
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: not going to probably heal your kidney cancer by putting
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: a particular crystal over your kidney, but you know, the enery,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: the like the crystal healing is like a subtle energy, right. So,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: but maybe you are going through your treatment for kidney
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: cancer and just going and getting some therapy and crystal
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: healing just to help you feel better overall, just like
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: mentally you feel like you're you're you're able to do
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: something a little bit more for your body can help
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: because the mind is so powerful, and you know the mind,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: if you feel like you're doing something additional beyond like
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: what the your medical treatment is, If you feel like
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: you're doing something a little bit additional for yourself, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: it helps you with your mind and it helps you
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: with the way that you're feeling and things like that.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I think that's so powerful. I mean, people's recovery is
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: so much based on what they're feeling in their mind.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's huge.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: And that was actually a lot of what I was
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: even trying to show with this series too, is that
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of it is like psychological, and I think
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: that there's ways that like you could kind of almost
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: program yourself to like even mentally deal with the world
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: better and deal with life and just yourself, you know,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: through certain practices. You know, sounds, colors, music, all that stuff,
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: the herbs.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I think all of it. Yeah, I think for me,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: it's like I'm really affected by I'm really affected. I've
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: noticed that I'm really affected by sounds and also by scent.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Like scent is really big for me, and I think
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: that's something that I kind of want to explore more.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Like I use a lot of different like sense in
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: my practice, like whether it's through incense or like, uh,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I like to use like certain like perfumes and fragrances
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: and things like that. A roam with like you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: scented like oils, things like that. Like that affects me
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: so much, and I think a lot of our memory
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: is very tied to I think one of our strongest
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: memory centers is like scent.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: No, it's interesting you were talking about that, and I
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: started thinking about I thought it was pretty cool when
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: I covered laurel in the Herb series. I found that
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: back in the day, I think it was the Greeks
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: of Romans on they would wear laurel sometimes when they
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: take tests in school. And if you look at laurel
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: now from the studies that they did, it actually helps
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: you focus more. And it's like they may not have
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: known the science, but diday, they realize that there was
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: a reaction like that when you had laurel on it,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: and it's just like, what the that is what you
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: have to.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah connected somehow they didn't really know how, But now
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: we've been able to go back and figure out, like, oh, well,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: actually it did help for that, and they didn't even realize.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of this stuff is
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: they were like with any of these practices, like people
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: were doing it. They didn't really know why they were
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: doing it, but they knew that it was working for
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: a purpose. And now because of the advancements and our
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: technology and the way that we're able to study things,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: we're able to connect the dots backwards, which is really neat.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: No, I think it's also when I come across stuff
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: like that, I think it's great. Yeah, Eric, did you
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: have anything.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: I mean I don't want to get like super basic,
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: but I'm to go, I'm going to go really well,
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: if you had, and maybe Nick you should answer this too,
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: if you had like a Desert Island crystal, or you
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: had to get rid of all the crystals in your
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: house except for one for you, Ashley, would it be
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: that piece of celles stite?
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: It would either be the celestite. It would either be
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the celestite or the other one that I really love
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: is uh labradorite, which I wear labradorite a lot, and
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: that big crystal because to me, labradorite you know, if
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: you know anything much about it, but it has that
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: that flash to it, which they say is like Aurora borealis,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: like locked inside. And I personally have like this really
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: strong connection to Iceland for whatever reason, and I always
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: think about like the northern lights over Iceland, and I
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: always think about like Iceland is encapsulated in the crystal,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: and like I always want to carry Iceland with me
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: for me, like that's my own little kookie personal connection
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: to it. But it always just feels like to me,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: like labradorite makes me always just feel very like witchy
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: and magical. And it's got that like dark you know
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: that dark you know, other worldly feeling to it and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: just something about it, like not only just esthetically, but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: then it also carries the flash and it carries like memories.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: And I don't know that that that might that actually
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: that might be I might I might leave my cello
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: stite behind and go with labratory.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: I used to use that a lot whenever I did
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: stuff with the moon. Yeah, so which it matches all
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: that stuff you just said, you know kind of mystical, which.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Very uh magical, like very intuitive. Yea, you know, I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: don't know, Like I always, I always I have this
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: like really cheesy practice that I do all the time,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: but it really works for me. I call it my
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: crystal clarity walk. So when I am at work on
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: the days when I'm in clinic seeing patients, I actually
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: on those days I actually get a lunch break. Most
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: days I do not, But on the days that I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: actually get a lunch break, like I will a lot
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: of times take my labradory and I will go out
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: and I will walk around the campus of my hospital.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting because when I'm holding my labradorite, just
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: like I usually like have like a little palmstone or
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: tumble or something, I get so many downloads. I get
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: so many ideas. I get so much inspiration and I'm
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: just like like trying to type stuff into my phone
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: like oh my gosh, I should do this, I should
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: do that, and I and it's like that's my crystal
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: clarity walk. I get all kinds of downloads, but the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: labradorite always really like really brings it in for me.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. I like that. That's pretty cool for me.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Uh. Probably, I have a fibrous malakite stone.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I love fibrous malakite. I have a really beautiful piece
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: of that too. It's so interesting. Malachite I love. I'm
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: a huge fan of copper based crystals, like the malachite,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: the crystal cola, I think dioptase. Yeah, I love copper base,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: anything copper base. Actually, I just did an episode this
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: week on laromar, which the blue in it is because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: of because of copper. I find all the copper base
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: minerals just like.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the fibers, it looks sick.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: So cool, so cool something about it. I love, like
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: the you know, the polished malachite is so cool because
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: it's got all the rings and swirls and stuff like that.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: But the fibrous is just it's like just it's like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: other worlds.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It's very it's very weird looking. It's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: almost like hairy, but not like it's harry.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like you'd be so fragile with it
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: because you don't want to break off the little like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: the little pieces of it.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: When I saw that for the first time, it was
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: probably like I was like that crystal just hit me
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: up for some reason.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, I actually love the way that crystal looks. Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean beyond the the the healing properties of
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: crystals or whatever, I mean just just it's it's just
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: so interesting how the Earth makes these things, like like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: how it makes these stones and crystals, and like why
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: they they are, why certain ones come from certain parts
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: of the world, and how they get these incredible colors
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: and formations, and it's just like like there's endless study
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: and research and wonder that you can have about these things.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, like just creating your
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: own little collection of special pieces is just so fun.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Like I just love sometimes I like, if I'm having
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: a stressful day, I'm like, I just want to go
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: home and play with my crystals. And what I mean
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: is like I just like to go home and I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: like to look at them and just study them and
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: just kind of like hang out with them because it's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: just they're just fascinating.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well I totally get that. Yeah, but yeah,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: that was probably, uh my favorite crystal. And even like
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: you even mentioned how it was like coming from copper,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I I just found it interesting how like, you know, green.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I think I was like kind of looking for something
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: to go along with van or I was using the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: cabalistic tree of life very big into the cabalas so
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: net sock would have a green or you know, Venus
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: could go there, and copper is.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Even associated with that area.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: So I thought it was pretty interesting how I was
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: getting a green rock a green stone to match the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: color for Venus.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: But also it was associated with copper.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: It was just like, you know, I'm getting all these associations,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: and then when I came across them in the store,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: I thought they were really cool, polished, And then I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: know I knew someone personally who sold like they would
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: get their hands on some real nice stuff sometimes and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: they're like, yo, I came across this sick fiber smalekite,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: you want to check it out, like before I put
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: it up on my shop, and I was like, yo,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I want that.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was just like, yo, this is the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: sickest stone I've ever seen.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really really interesting, yeah, really interesting.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: It just like even like you know, I was associated
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: with love, like even just looking at it, like I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: loved that stone, So I was like it really to me,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: just encapsulated like you know.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: And that's that's truthfully, that's the way that I I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: personally like connect, you know. I I had people ask
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: me all the time like, well, what stone should I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: use for you know, this that or the other, And
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of times like my recommendations are just things
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: that that necessary that that I've found personally that have
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: worked for me, that don't even necessarily have like the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: attributes of what it would say in the store or whatever.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Like I I it's my own personal knowing of what
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: the stone is. And that's like a lot of times
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: what I recommend for people just based off of my
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: own personal feelings about a stone, not necessarily like you know,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: sometimes you know, people always want like relationship and love
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: and things like that, and yeah, the obvious choice would
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: be like the rose course, but then it's like, well,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: maybe actually the better choice for you would be like
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: a malachite or something like that, Like it doesn't always
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: have to be like that obvious choice. And I and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I think there's something like interesting about that too, And
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of for me, it feels more
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: personal when I when I offer something to somebody just
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: based on my own personal like the the downloads that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: I get from that stone personally, rather than just like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: what you could look up in the book.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: M I actually love rose courts too. I do too.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's like one of the oldest stones that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: we ever found. When we found that in the garbage
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: flowing out of my grandma's nighbor.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's awesome. I love that stuff.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I feel like my my history
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: of liking like spooky, kooky stuff goes so far back,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: you know, like, oh yeah, he was like we were
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: playing with all the old cemetery wreaths that he had
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: coming out. We would like set up like all these
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: cemetery wreaths like around because the sky was like hell old.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: So it's like he didn't care if we were pulling
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: garbage out of the back of his house and setting
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: it up, you know, and playing with all the old
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: cemetery Harry Reese. But I mean, like my like some
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: of my best memories of being a kid is like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: playing with those old wreaths or like hanging out at
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: the cemetery, like around my grandpa's gravestone and like things
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: like that. I mean, I don't know some of these
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: things like that, these patterns that we find later in
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: life you look back and you're like, oh wait, it's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: always kind of been like this.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: That's interesting how you're saying that now, with like even
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: the memories like from the crystals, and you said you're
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: real big on scent, right, that's another huge thing for memories.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Huge.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe you're real big on like memory stuff.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: I do like that.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. That's pretty cool. Nice mm hmm, yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: I mean for me sometimes with sense, I don't know what,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: especially with Petruli. For some reason, it will hit me
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: with like almost vivid scenes of like childhood. Sometimes it's wild.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I will have who.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Was wearing Petulia? Your parents?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: No, you know what, it was my preparents.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like it just might sound crazy, but
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: for some reason, there's something about Patuli that reminds me
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: of like my mom was huge into gardening and she
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: would wrote, you know, she would like dig up her
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: garden all the time, and like I remember like the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: decomposition and like dead ship that you're just digging up.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: For some reason, had like a scent that reminded me
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: of and I sometimes would smell that and almost have
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: like vivid like remembrances of like me in the garden
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: with my mom in the dirt, and I was.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Like, yo, that is a wild that is so cool.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Because for me, Petuli just reminds me of all the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: kids living in my college dorm that we're trying to
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: avoid showering.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I remember that too, so.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: All the big dreads that just smelled like Pachuli, Like okay.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm the one person who has a memory
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: of that that doesn't go back.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: To like a hippie.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I like better.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a really memory. It's well as well, Eric,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: is there anything else you wanted to ask? Uh? You good?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: Well, since we're talking about sense, Like, do you ever
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: combine oils and crystals or any type of scents and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: oils for like an enhancement on stuff?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, Like I don't make my own gems gem essences,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: but I do have. I do have some that I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: love to use. Every day I have so there I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: use yes, even in like so everyday morning I have
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: kind of this ritual. I have this gem essence. It's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: of pyrite and it's an oil and it is something
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: that is not toxic to consume. And so I every
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: morning I go downstairs and when I make my morning coffee,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I put some drops of my pyrite gem essence in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: my coffee. I also have lots of these, Like right here,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I have this shun gay missed the I got recently
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: from a It's called moon nectar apothecary, and it's got
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: like oils and it's got the essence of shunkai for
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: just yeah, it looks I don't know this was new.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I just got this one. It's so good too. And
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I definitely like I use the oils with the crystals.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: I do like candle adornment and things like that too,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: So I love I love combining both of them.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to go.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: It's really neat. Yeah, this is really like I love
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: the label on it too, it's really neat.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I used to use.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Did you during your Yeah?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, well see I was extra.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: I was a ceremonial magician, So if I was going
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: to do something with stones, i'd have three stones. If
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: I was going to incorporate urbs, I used three herbs.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: It was you. Yeah, yeah, so sun guy was like
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: one of my go to is if I was like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: probably working with Saturn or Banaha or something like that.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: So I have a question for you. So you you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: don't do that type of work anymore?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Oh No, I do, if anything, maybe just meditations. I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: really haven't gone into ritual work in years.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: So how did you like? How did you This is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: just for my own knowledge kind of taking over. No,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: that's fine for now, I'm taking over now. Like I'm
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: just interested how you got into ceremonial magic and then
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: kind of how you ended up kind of drifting away
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: from it.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: I had an experience that, you know, I thought was
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: rather profound, and uh, I had it again just doing meditation.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: I had it a few I experienced it a few
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: more times just from literally meditating. So for me, it's just, uh,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: I do believe it or not? Do you think if
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: you're looking at the stuff from the right way, I think,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm still incorporating all that stuff is very
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: important for somebody to learn from. But I do think,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: just from my experience that if I really wanted to,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: you know, go out there and do something, I just
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: got to sit in a chair and close my eyes
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: and meditate for a bit and hope you know that
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: it happens, yeah the ritual. Like I didn't need to
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: do the whole elaborate ritual for an hour.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: You know. But during the time when you were doing that, I.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Was, I was huge into a lot of stuff.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, Yeah, but how did I, like, initially,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: how did you even get into that?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: When I was younger, I did believe in uh that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: stuff was possible with in witchcraft. I believed in ghosts
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: and aliens as a kid, So I guess I was
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: kind of already open to stuff, and like I had
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier that I kind of started off to show
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: like a little bit, or maybe I didn't mention it,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: but I mentioned about the conspiracy community. That's kind of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: where I started the show off. Originally, I kind of
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: got into conspiracies and gradually around twenty ten and just
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: just gravitated toward the occult angle, people like Michael Tassari
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: and Mark Passio, a little bit of Jordan Maxwell David like,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: you know, people who kind of focused on that stuff,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: and I started getting interested into it, and you know,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: one point, I was just like, you know, I'm following
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: all these things, and even from the conspiracy angle, it's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: always in a negative aspect most of it. I'm like,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: I still don't even know what magic is. You know,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: I'm following these orders, these people who supposedly did these
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: horrific things this and that.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, I still don't even know what it is.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: And I kind of was interested in actually like learning it,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: because I did think that there was, you know, a
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: good aspect behind it.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: It's not all bad. It's not all Dixon demons. Like
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: I say, sometimes excuse my language.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: But it's not always you know bad shit, you know,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: there is actually a good aspect to it. And I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: started to get into it more and I got some books,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: and then I had hit ups many that I was
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: friends with on Facebook that I was in high school
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: with that I remember was a a wick and Witch,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: a wi witch, whatever, and she, you know, I knew
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: her pretty well, and I hit her up and because
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: I figured she was still into this stuff, and I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: started kind of explaining to her, like what I was
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: more interested in. She was like, you know what, what
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: kind of piqued your interests? Because she wanted to give
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: me an idea where to go, and she's like, I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: definitely think you're kind of a little bit more on
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: the ceremonial magician side. And you know, she suggested, I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: think Donald Michael Craig's book, you know. So I got
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: into that and started looking at some of Crowley stuff,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: and eventually I was like, you know, I started noticing that, well,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: I'll just keep it as it is discrepancy sometimes between
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: some people talking about other people's work that they were
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: getting this stuff from, but yet when they were relaying
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: it in their book, it didn't match the original stuff.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: So I was just like, you know, what maybe I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: should find a place that I could go to and
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: join and actually kind of be pointed in the right
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: direction about like what they consider as like you know legit,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: you know, get gets gets results. And when I started
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: looking into places, you know that would be very much
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: into occultism right away, that kind of knocked out freemasonry.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: It was really kind of like Martinism, the Golden Down
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: and the OTO. And I started looking for these places,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: and the OTO was near me, about twenty minutes away.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: So I joined the Auto Templary Orientas and I was
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: there for about five years and then left after I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: had my experience, and so like I kind of got
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: into it literally from the conspiracy angle, and then eventually
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: wanted to see what it was really about, because I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: didn't think it was all that bad, you know, I
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: did think there was a positive behind it.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: It could make you a better person, and so I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: started learning from that.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: I had my own experience, and then I started looking
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: at magic a lot differently too.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: So so do you think it was positive for you?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even though I even like I had
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: left the OTO, even though like obviously I left out,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: you know, it must not have been you know, the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: happiest member. I guess if I decided to leave, I
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: still think that experience was beneficial. Yeah, I think all
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: of it. All of it is what got me to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: where I am now. Yeah, and I'm pretty happy with
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: where I'm at now, so I guess I wouldn't change anything.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Do you primarily work like as a podcaster or do
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: you work outside of your podcast?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: No, uh no no, but podcasting, I mean it's really
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: not like providing that much. It is a kind of like,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: you know, I make some money off of it, but
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: it's I wish it could be.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Like my job.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, I hear you.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: No, No, it reminds me I got to actually argue
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: with YouTube. There's money that they haven't even given me,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: and it's like what the fuck?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: I know, people are like, how much money are you
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: making off your podcast? And I'm like, how about how
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: much money am I spending to make my podcast? How
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: about how about we go down there?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Oh you go right?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: That's even another thing for real? Yeah, yeah, how much
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: I'm paying for stream Yard and Spreaker. It's like that's
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: over a thousand dollars a year between both of them, probably.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: But it's not it's not. It's definitely podcasting can is
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: definitely not cheap. And like you know, before, you know,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: before you can really make any money off of it,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: you've got to have a lot of a lot of stuff.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: Hold on, my son is busting in on me. Did
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: you eat the center of the popsicle out?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: Or what.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: The best bust?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, go, he's running around. He's tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow we're
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: back to school. But today he is naked as a bird,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: running around the house, living his best life.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm like please, yeah, oh my god.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and like even speaking of uh, speaking of like
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: you know, talking about YouTube, and I got to contact YouTube.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I see Howard's in the chat. This is this is crazy.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: I mean I got to thank the guys and saying
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody to do this before. Howard's in
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: the chat. One time I think he sent five hundred
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: and ninety nine dollars, and one other time he sent
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: five hundred dollars.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Howard, you remember how long ago that is? YouTube has
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: still not given me that.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: There is that then he donated like one other time
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: I think over for one hundred bucks. I've had frad
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Osse drop like fifty dollars a more and a few times.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: I have never once gotten paid for any of those
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: super chats. What the fuck?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: You know what the crazy thing is is that I calculated.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: You know, I have to take out their third because
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: they take a third or to do the thing. Obviously,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be a prick. I'm gonna pay
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: everybody on the show too. I'm gonna hit you all off.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: You know, we just got paid. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: I paid all these people and I haven't gotten the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: money back. I'm like, god, damn it, man, fuck yeah,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: I figured out ho you know, I'll be next month's
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: payment or you know, two months because I think you know,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: YouTube's like two payments backwards, and you know, it's like,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: you know, like a job when they hold back the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: first paycheck, it's just a paycheck. It's a month with them, see,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: like two months behind after a few months, I'm like, yo,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: I the fuck's going on with this money. I gotta
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: hit them up and be like, Yo, where is this?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: I think you have to be like on them?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: I mean I can't see how anything's wrong, like it
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: they're paying me regardless of people looking at commercials? How
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: is my stuff not correct to get my super chats? Like,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: I just don't understand what I'm saying. It can't be
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: either my end either, you know what I'm saying, like
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: if my ship's up to date for you to even
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: pay me anything?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: If you know how YouTube works, like you.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Know, No, I don't know how.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Eric might understand.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, to make sure you have everything your tease,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: cross your eyes dotted, and then they'll finally pay you.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Like at that point the super chats, What do I
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: gotta jump through ten other hoops for that?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I just don't understand it.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah I wish, but I wish, And long
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: story short, I dragged that out, but yeah I wish
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: it was something I was living off of. No, no, no,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: I have other stuff that I do illegal, you know. Yeah,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: well I have mentioned on the show. Actually both of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: yous may not know this. I have done federal prison
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: on Oh really yeah yeah, I went to the fence
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: for two years. Oh wow, dang, yeah yeah, but yeah,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: yeah I was manufacturing distributing anabolic steroids.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Oh were you uh? Were you like bodybuildings?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Back then.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I was sticking myself with everything I
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: was fucking making too.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: I was a mess, Yeah, I believe it or not.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: Probably getting busted might have actually like probably saved my
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: life to an extent.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Think about like all these these big bodybuilders and stuff.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I mean they die so young.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh you know, yeah for sure because you're
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: just pumping tons of junkens. Was at one point I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: even like realized, like you might even know this, like
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: you only had your receptors were only sucking so much.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm like pumping shit into my body that
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: they can't even use anymore, Like the fuck this is stupid?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I realized how ridiculous it was. But yeah,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: yeah I did two years for that. You know, if
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: you don't pay taxes on that ship, defense don't like it.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: So I had to do two years. So if I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: would have paid taxes on it somehow, they wouldn't have
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: cared that much. But there's people I know that have
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  Speaker 4: been doing not anymore. I mean, but there's people that
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  Speaker 4: I have known that have been doing the same thing
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  Speaker 4: for like probably twenty years, and they all have some
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  Speaker 4: fake business they wash their money through, and it's like, hmmm,
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  Speaker 4: did they not care if you're doing that? I'm paying
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  Speaker 4: my taxes. The government's still getting a charge, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Cut they don't want to ruin a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at you now?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, for real, that's even another thing,
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  Speaker 4: like even looking at how I the person I even
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  Speaker 4: was fifteen years ago, and because of getting into occultism,
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  Speaker 4: who I am now? That has to even show that
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  Speaker 4: they can improve a person as fucked up as people
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  Speaker 4: may think I am now It was even more of
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  Speaker 4: a you know, an asshole and a mess in the past.
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  Speaker 2: No, for sure, Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I really think that, Like I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of this stuff has really made me
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  Speaker 3: a much. I mean, I think I've always been a
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  Speaker 3: very athetic person, but I think it really has changed
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  Speaker 3: my perspective on life a lot. And I noticed that
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  Speaker 3: it's really just completely changed, like the energy around me,
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  Speaker 3: which then affects the energy of all the people that
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: are also around me, and it's I carry it into
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: my you know, I carry this all into my regular
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: work every day because I show up with a certain
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: different type of energy, and like my patients feel that too.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, you know, and it affects everything. It's not
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  Speaker 3: it's not just it's not just for me, like really,
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  Speaker 3: it affects my family, my husband, like the kids, like
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  Speaker 3: everybody you know in my world in a good way.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know exactly what you mean.
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  Speaker 4: I sometimes I remember one time with someone who's not
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: too long ago, I had noticed it, and they're like, oh,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: they assumed like maybe I did that to be like
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: nice for a reason. But like, this is gonna sound
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  Speaker 4: totally corny, and I'm putting myself out there. But a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times when I go to like supermarket so places,
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  Speaker 4: when I leave, always try to be really nice to
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: the catcher, just the person, Yes, because I know I've
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: worked in those situations as a kid. Sometimes you might
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: deal with a bunch of assholes and you're going to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: be in your head and you can get that one
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  Speaker 4: customer that's really nice to you, and then you totally
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: forget about the ten assholes you just had, and that
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  Speaker 4: can totally change your how you go forward.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of magic right there.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's true. I mean, I really do. I think
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: about that kind of stuff all of the time. Like
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: we were at this hotel in Nebraska recently and they
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: had like this like pool and like there's like so
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: many people there and the bar is going crazy, and
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: this this gal was like just looks so stressed out,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: and I just just like, hey, you know what, Like,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: you guys are doing an incredible job. Like I literally
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: don't know how you keep up with the pace of
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. Like you guys are just rock stars.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: I said, I can't even imagine how exhausted you guys
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: must be when you lead here every single day. But
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: you guys are like showing up and you're all smiling
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: and like cheerful and stuff. And I was like, it's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: really impressive, and you could tell like it just totally
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: took her off guard because probably no one ever says
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: anything like that to them. People are just like, oh,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: I want my drink, I need this, I need that.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Like people aren't very thankful in those kinds of situations.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, granted, a lot of people are drunk and
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, and I wasn't because I was sick,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: you know, but like I think just taking those small
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: bits of time to acknowledge people share with someone, like
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: you see something on their shirt that they like, or
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: you you know, the way that they're dressed, or a
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: piece of jewelry or some little thing like that you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: connect with. It makes such a huge difference. It makes
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: such a huge difference, and that, I agree is like
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit of magic that you can share with
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: the world, because most people never do that.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: And I think that's my mom. She grew up in
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: the South, so she always was.
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  Speaker 4: Just trying to be nice and pleasant, polite.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: Light.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much, Ashley for coming on. You'd
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: believe in it.
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  Speaker 4: I had probably fifteen questions I didn't even get to
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: ask because I think we just flowed great to begin with.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, maybe hopefully get you back on in the future.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe a lot of fun.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to actually get into specific crystals, but
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: it's already been almost an hour and a half, so
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure we all got shit to do,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: so I'll just get you back on again.
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  Speaker 3: So I'd love to. It's a lot of fun. I
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: have amazing questions that are you know, very thoughtful, which
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: I you know, and I love that we've been able
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: to explore other topics too, which is great because these
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: are all things that I love talking about so much,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: and like, you know, most people don't really know, you know,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: in our day to day world, like most people are.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Like, what, Yeah, I kind of got a nerd out
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: on your own with this stuff. Yeah that's okay.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: I like nerding out on my own, but it's nice having.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Other people to chat to exactly exactly.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: Before we wrap it up, Eric, why don't you let
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: everybody know what they can find all your amazing work.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: Please find me on YouTube, guys at Eric Arcadian. Check
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: out my show Music, Myth and Magic, or grab a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: copy of my book Fluid Condensers Unlocking the Mysteries of Gold,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: Alchemy and Magic. Or if you want to go to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: my website Ericarcadian dot com find some of the articles
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: I put out about fun magical topics.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much, sir, I appreciate you making it today.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Man had a bless Thank you and Ashley. Please let
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: everybody know where they can find all your stuff.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Sure, so, I have Big Crystal Energy Podcast. It's everywhere,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: it's even My videos are on YouTube as well, Big
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: Crystal Energy Podcast, and mostly I hang out on Instagram
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: at Mystical dot Mama dot ash. I do have a
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Big Crystal Energy Instagram, but I don't really use that
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: too much, so mostly at Mysticalmama dot ash on Instagram.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: I would love to chat message me.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I'm around nice again. I had a blast, Ashley.
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  Speaker 4: It was a really, really good time and I really
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: need to get you back on and have a talk
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: like this again. Thank you everybody in the chat. That's
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: what's up. I appreciate it. I like all the comments
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: and questions. That's why I go live and until the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: next one, everybody be well later, bye bye.