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One Piece, 549-551 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering one piece
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  episodes five forty nine through five fifty one. A rift opens up Loofy versus
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  Jimbae. Something has happened to Horty, the true power of the evil drug,
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  and the battle is on at Concord Plaza. In these episodes, Jimby
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  gives some reasons for keeping Lufy out of the fight that, like, I
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  guess makes sense, but I'm not. I don't. I don't know,
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  y'all. I really don't know if I if I think that what would happen
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  if Lufi got involved is like the same as Jimba's. Welcome to take feedback
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  on that. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone. I
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  am Natasha. Thank you very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. What's
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  up, Michael, If you're out there, I appreciate you. Y'all.
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  These episodes are full of surprises. I really thought I kind of knew how
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  certain things were going to shake out, and they don't go that way at
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  all. So the first thing that I want to talk about is jim Bay
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  versus Loopy. The thing that you guys know, I last episode was sort
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  of like, how can the two of them waste their time and energy on
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  fighting each other when they have like a real enemy with the sort of time
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  limit going on to deal with. And the answer to that is Jimbay thinks
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  that if Loofy gets involved because Lufy is human, it's going to look bad
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  and it's going to reinforce all of the terrible things that the fishmen of this
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  island already have started to think about humans. He's basically like, we were
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  finally able to collect enough signatures, and you come out swinging, even though
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  it's at somebody who seems an enemy right now, and you are going to
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  make them all kind of second guess signing it and want to take it back
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  now, y'all. I am so conflicted on this. It's the sort of
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  thing that I feel. On the one hand, I understand what he means.
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  It's just extremely difficult for me to understand how when this man is holding
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  the king hostage ready for execution, they wouldn't see Loofy as a hero.
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  I just don't really buy that. I especially because Lufy and his friends have
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  already met the king, and they have already met the princess who knows they
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  think well of them for the most part, so you would have not only
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  the fact that he saved the king, but then the actual king of this
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  island telling everybody I invited him to the palace because I considered him an honored
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  guest and he saved my life. I feel like that's just sort of that's
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  just done. It's problem solved, you know, Florian says, I love
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  how you are a lot. I don't know what to think. I felt
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  the same. However, some of the fandom found this arc had too much
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  race stuff in it. It's funny because like, how can it have too
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  much when that's the point of all of the story. Like, I mean,
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  I guess if you're saying like we shouldn't pursue this storyline at all,
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  which I'm assuming is what they mean by that, But that feels incredibly shortsighted
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  to me. That feels like you set this all up with our along and
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  his hatred of humans long ago. People just didn't want a payoff on that.
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  They didn't want to find what about the previous arc, Florian, because
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  like, even though well it winds up becoming about the war of the Best,
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  it all starts because of selling slaves and with an exclusive like zeroing in
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  on the Mermaids and the Mermen and what happened to them, So like,
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  genuinely, I I really don't know what people are hoping for. If this
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  isn't like I feel like you're missing the point of some things, then how
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  are they supposed to deal with a race based slavery system? And I guess
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  it's unfair to call it completely race based, because humans are being sold as
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  slaves as well, but it was much more geared towards mermaids and Mermen because
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  they are a sort of I was gonna say, like a luxury item,
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  and then I want to restrain myself. But you know what, I think
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  that's accurate, So I'm gonna go ahead and say that. I just don't
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  really feel like you can make that argument here and also know what the fuck
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  you're talking about with the whole rest of the plot it. Florian says,
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  Yeah, I feel like those are the people who are only here for the
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  fights and don't see the overall story. Yeah. I look, I know
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  I bring up Cradle a lot, and I do not apologize for that.
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  If you haven't read the Cradle series and you are into one piece. You're
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  gonna like it, Go do that. But there was a hot take that
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  somebody shared from Reddit a couple of days ago, uh in the discord,
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  and it was somebody who read a certain book from the series, a Cradle
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  book, and they got really angry that the main character loses a bunch of
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  fights in this particular book, and they basically acted as if it were an
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  assassination of the character, that it was a waste of time to read it
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  because he just gets beaten so often that it's like demoral. They completely sidestepped
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  all of the incredible character development that happened and the strategic losses that this character
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  knew were going to happen and decided to engage with because they were keeping their
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  eyes on the big picture. There was just so much about that book that,
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  in my opinion, made it one of the best in the series,
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  and this person was just unwilling to see any of that. And I was
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  kind of gratified when they got roundly dunked on by everybody on Reddit who was
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  just like, are you twelve years old? Like what do you mean?
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  You know? And I can't help but feel that way about this as well.
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  If you feel like there's too much race stuff in this storyline. What
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  are you wanting them to fight for? What bothers you about this? Then
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  it feels for me like it's just I don't want anything that parallels the real
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  world's problems because that's too heavy, And there's a lot of stuff that's kind
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  of heavy in this show, like intermittently. I don't know, I just
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  feel like that's a weird position to take. So yeah, I feel like,
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  honestly that just within this opening I covered essentially everything that happens in the
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  first of these three episodes. That's not true. But the thing that they
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  did here, which is just always frustrating, they had Jimbay take absolute ages
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  to get to the point about why he doesn't want Loofy to engage in the
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  fight. So it's really frustrating because like it's the sort of thing that a
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  lot I know that this is them sort of just sort of stretching things out
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  there, trying to fill time, I guess. But the last episode ends
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  with jim Bay just being like, you're not gonna get involved and cracking his
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  knuckles and standing in front of Loofy in a way that just felt very much
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  like he was being obstinate for the sake of it. And it's not until
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  like halfway through this episode that we actually get an answer about why he feels
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  that way. I didn't even know that there was a further like thesis behind
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  why. I thought he was only concerned about the fact that Loofy wasn't going
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  to be able to hold his own in the fight. That he was of
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  the opinion that, like, you're going in there thinking that you're more capable
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  against this guy than you are because you don't understand what the drug that he
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  is using and how that affects things. And so I thought it was him
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  maybe underestimating Lufy. Maybe it was like it maybe he is right, and
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  I haven't seen everything that the drug can do yet. You know, there's
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  there's all kinds of the fact that it turns out to be part of the
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  race issue. Like I said, I appreciate that we're doing this because the
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  show is trying to keep things sort of consistent and a little bit complicated,
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  And I don't really mind that, you know what I mean, But it
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  just for me feels like all of the contexts surrounding how our friends got here
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  to me would just erase any concerns that he has about how this would go.
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  They have the approval of the royals. I really think that's all you
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  need. This would immediately clear things up with the princes, and the princes
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  were the only ones that were sort of suspicious of the straw Hats, thinking
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  they were taking these mermaids prisoner, and even them in these episodes, they
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  eventually have a chat amongst themselves about how they don't seem like bad people actually,
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  and maybe there's just been a sort of misunderstanding. There's just a lot
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  of people who are having the backs of the straw Hats here. And I
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  don't know if Jimbay is just unaware of that, if you know, because
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  he wasn't with them. He's just been chilling here in the sea forest until
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  they came to meet him. I don't really know how much he knows about
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  what's gone down with all of them, but it just to me was sort
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  of like you just are assuming a lot here. And if you see that
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  Lufi's got the princess with him, and she seems to be on good terms
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  with him. She came willingly, she wanted to do this and seems to
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  have like some genuine affection for him. I feel like that should be evidence
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  enough, even though he wasn't with them, you know what I'm saying.
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  It just I don't know, guys, I'm just sort of frustrated by this
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  because it's like it just feels like we're doing something to delay at all,
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  just because we need to draw it, even though it doesn't really make sense
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  or feel organic, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, I'm I'm
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  struggling with this a little bit. And it's fine, that's gonna happen.
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  So let's talk about all of our guys that are still in the cage,
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  oos up Brooke and Zoro. And this is so strange, you guys,
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  I really kind of expected it, and you know, maybe this is my
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  fault. I really kind of expected our guys to like have come up with
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  some plan by now, to have like thought it through maybe, you know.
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  And eventually Brooke does something. But in usual fashion for this show.
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  And when I say this, I say it with the utmost affection. Really,
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  the usual fashion for me is that somebody does something incredibly bonkers out of
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  nowhere, and then they like explain it later, and we don't even the
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  explanation is insufficient but I'm gonna jump into what that is, because our guys
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  are just sort of like waiting for Zoro to come up with a plan.
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  Who's like I, if I only had a sword then everything would be fine.
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  I couldn't help but laugh because Usup's response to that is just I don't
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  think that's true. Honestly, that really did make me lol, because he's
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  right and Zorro is wrong, and that's just that on that, and finally
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  Brookes says, well, well, since our outlook is so bleak, I
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  didn't want to do this in front of you, but I guess I have
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  to, and he begins chanting. Now. I wasn't watching this with the
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  subtitles on when I first watched it. I have them on now, and
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  it's not like the subtitles that are the Japanese translation subtitles. This is the
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  actual dub subtitles, the dub titles, if you will. And it says
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  that he is just chanting bone, bone, bone over and over again,
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  which is hilarious, just objectively very funny. But in the audio, it
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  doesn't sound like that's what he's saying. It sounds more like a drum beating.
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  I knew it was him vocalizing, but it felt like there was almost
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  an effect to put on his voice. It was really really cool sounding.
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  Actually, I was sort of taken aback by how neat this was. And
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  as he is saying this, and I'm like watching this happen, thinking to
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  myself, what is what? All of a sudden, this like green mist
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  begins to come out of his mouth, and a like skull shape appears with
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  a sort of it's like the skull has a defined edge to it, but
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  it's in a cloud of green that sort of suggests brooks afro a little bit.
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  And it just turns and talks to them and says, and I'm out.
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  And by the way, there's like a few other green sort of flaming
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  It's like they're taking the shape of flames, but they look like smoke,
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  and those are sort of hovering around him. I don't know if that's meant
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  to imply that there is some sort of weapon that he can use with this,
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  you know what I'm saying. But I was just really I couldn't help
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  but lol at this because as he does this, both his friends like,
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  he just says, I don't want to do this in front of you.
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  He doesn't explain or warn them or anything. And then when when he does
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  this and just turns back, of course, his friends scream as they should,
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  and us Up says, when did you learn to do that? In
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  the softest voice. I couldn't tell if this is supposed to be Brooke being
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  genuinely curious what Oosop's asking, or if it was supposed to be Brooke is
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  being really coy about this incredibly boss weapon that he now has ability if you
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  don't want to call it a weapon, I suppose, But he just says,
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  do what you mean, make my soul leave my body in this like
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  very soft voice that I Brooke is such a weirdo, you guys. I
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  kind of live for him as a character. If it weren't for what he
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  says next, you knew that was coming right, yeah, my guys,
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  Because then he immediately has to be like, well, if there's something that
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  like a way for men to do this, you know that there's only one
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  thing they're gonna go looking for. WHA I must we do this, y'all?
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  I just want to know why we have to. I it's such a
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  shame to me, genuinely, like it just throws cold water on everything every
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  time it happens. The one thing I will say about all he doesn't get
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  specific here. He just says, you just go looking for one thing.
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  It's very clear what he means by that, but I will say at least
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  it doesn't get specific. And we also get a lot less of Soanjy the
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  hornball in these episodes as well. I have no doubt that will resurface,
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  but as of right now it was pretty restrained. Sonji doesn't have a lot
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  to do in these episodes except like sort of make an explanation about Lufy should
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  be allowed to do what he wants essentially, so so I'll give I won't
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  even I don't even want to say I'll give credit on that. More like
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  I just found that to at least be a relief. But uh yeah,
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  yeah, this was just you know, it's just so it just comes in
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  and ruins these moments that are awesome otherwise, so Brookes says, it's a
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  new trick. I was surprised and then and he says, like it happened
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  quite suddenly because I had fallen into a slump. And we find out that
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  his sales, like all of them, the tickets and his music, they
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  were all on the decline, and we get to see a bunch of people
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  talking about how like his concert wasn't that good, how they actually prefer his
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  own music, and other people are being like I just don't feel his soul
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  anymore, and I was like, huh, interesting, And we get his
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  manager threatening him, saying you better pull it together or I'm cutting you off,
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  basically like I won't manage you anymore. I have to admit, what
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  does the manager do except just take some of Brooks's money? Like I kind
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  of felt like Brooke probably should be on his own, like just you could
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  do better. I have no doubt than the men who were about to enslave
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  you and have two elbows like on each arm. But Brooke is like,
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  well, dude, I can't just like throw music together. And I had
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  to laugh at that because like hundreds of chart toppers beg to differ. But
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  he says, let me write one last good song, please, God of
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  Music bless me. And he's fallen to his knees and he's in this shaft
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  of light with his hands clasped in front of him, and he says,
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  all who hear it to their souls in a weird like turn of phrase that
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  I wasn't really sure. I'm gonna rewind and see if that was. Grant
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  me a melody. Ah, that's right here it is. I beg of
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  you. Let me write one last good song, a melody that everyone will
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  that will shake everyone who hear it to their souls. We have the sky
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  open and there's like a rainbow sort of galaxy. Look, Brooke begins to
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  sort of choke and then his soul just flies out and he has no idea
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  what's going on? Can you imagine? I have got to say everybody on
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  our team has their very unique sets of skills and abilities, and they all
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  have their like learning curves with figuring out how to use them. But I
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  feel like Brooke has gotten kind of the hardest hoe to row, row to
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  hoe, you know what I'm saying. I just feel like, in terms
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  of his overall ability being like, oh, yeah, I'm still alive in
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  a skeleton body that's incredibly difficult to get used to and something that's going to
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  take a lot of time and isolate you from a lot of people just based
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  on how you look now, because a lot of the gumgum fruits don't really
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  affect you your exterior. You can like begin to wear stuff that sort of
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  reflects what you can do as accessories, but it's not like it's immediately apparent
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  with a lot of people that they've eaten one. And I just feel like
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  the weirdness of Brooks existence and having been all alone on that boat for so
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  long and then this kind of Weirdoh shit, that's so esoteric. I'm just
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  like, man, he really I feel like he's on hard mode. And
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  he says it was frightening at first, but it really helped. With this
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  new ability, came an epiphany. I finally realized what was missing from my
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  music and how to get out of my slump. And when Zoro says,
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  which was this is when his nose starts bleeding, and he says, it's
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  actually pretty obvious when you think about it. If a man can go anywhere
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  undetected, there's one thing he's going to go looking for. So I don't
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  even understand what he means by this. Is he saying that, like,
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  the thing that was missing from my music was objectifying women without their knowledge,
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  and so I just inserted a bunch of lyrics about how sexy naked women are,
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  and that became good music. All of a sudden, I don't even
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  get what he's saying here, You guys, what does that mean? I
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  feel like I'm being like I feel like it comes across as if I'm being
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  purposely obtuse, and I really want to like, I'm not trying to be
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  difficult here. I really genuinely do not understand. I feel like there's an
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  implication that I'm supposed to get, but the whole thing has been done in
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  such a roundabout way, and it or if it's like supposed to be that
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  like seeing naked women inspired his music and it wasn't a like a direct like
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  that was what was missing, but more like once I got horny, the
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  soul came back into my music again. Is that it? Which is just
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  really like really strange And unfortunately the most unfortunate part of this because we already
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  know Brooke is a pervert and a creep, and I've kind of tried to
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  come to terms with that. It hasn't fully worked, but I'm trying.
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  But then after he says this, usup says he's so lucky, Zoro,
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  why can't I be dead like he is? And I don't remember a time
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  where usap was horny guys. And I may be really wrong on that.
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  You may be able to point out several scenes for all I know, but
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  I'm just saying, like, from where I'm sitting, I have often seen
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  us up as the outside, like the only one that doesn't really sort of
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  display this out of the boys a lot of the time. And I don't
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  know if I'm misremembering giving him too much credit, you know, I don't
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  know, but uh yeah, I felt like, come on us up.
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  You were supposed to be sort of my cinnamon roll pure boy, and I
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  can't believe that you're co signing this. Brooke meanwhile says oh, but the
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  water's getting so high soon you will be dead like me and Usap says,
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  well, then why don't you hurry up and do something about it, which
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  is good advice. So then we get all of the talk with JIMBEI,
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  which I've already gone over, and then we jump over to the the villagers.
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  I don't even know if like this is that what I should call them.
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  I'm gonna call them villagers. I'm sorry. Florine is in the chat
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  and says, I think he needed a mouse and he saw some a mouse
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  that's got to be a typo, but I do not know what it could
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  have been that you were trying to say, I'm so sorry, And then
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  Florian says, yeah, that is a weird moment for USUP, but maybe
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  USUP is doing a quote I wish I was dead meme. I would like
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  to think that, but I don't feel like the timing makes sense. I
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  think it is just oos up co signing being old creep unfortunately. But anyway,
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  okay, so, oh muse he needed a muse? Oh Florian,
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  Okay, that actually when you frame it like that, like what really is
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  a muse? But just like almost always a hot chick, that makes you
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  like, that's just been what it's sort of short for historically speaking in media,
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  I bet you're right. I didn't even think of that framing it in
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  that way, but it's so wild, like you guys think about this that
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  I was sort of like, you just wanted hot chicks to look at and
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  that inspires you somehow, And I was so dismissive of it, but then
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  you rephrase it as he needed a muse, and all of a sudden,
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  I'm fully like, oh I get it, that makes sense. We have
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  really like fucked our heads up with just calling things by a slightly different name
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  and trying to make it seem as if it's like somehow artistic or more noble,
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  and then it's okay when when it comes down to it, it's the
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  same garbage. And I mean, honestly, I uh, I feel sometimes
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  like I'm taking crazy pills when I step back from my own brain and realize
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  the way that I can sort of rationalize things. But anyway, this is
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  the point where the villagers have been harassing and I say harassing, but that's
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  some unfair because it's the pirates that are harassing the villagers. But the villagers
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  are beginning to really fight back and they are about to kill them. They
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  have like beaten the shit out of uh, what do you call him?
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  The what's the name of the guy who's like the the shark, the hammerhead
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  shark, And so these villagers are about to kill him, and there's a
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  real moment of like, you guys don't stand a chance against us. We're
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  gonna take them all out. And all of a sudden here comes the Prince
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  and he says, if you kill them, you or know better than they
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  are, and we're gonna take them into custody, spare them their lives.
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  You guys know my complicated feelings on this. I really it's the sort of
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  thing that, like, the good guy almost always is required to say this
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  sort of thing. And while I understand the like in inclination to make the
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  good guy have this point of view, I have very little patience for it
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  in the midst of certain plot points. And so what I'm saying here is
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  my guy, your father is being held for execution. These people are all
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  like fighting back very reasonably in my opinion, and here you are coming in
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  and acting like you're no better than they are. They will stab you in
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  the back the instant they get the chance. There's not even like a maybe
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  on that, and him trying to sort of the whole idea to me of
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  like that makes you know better than them. I never buy that. There
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  is a difference in why you want to take someone's life, and that for
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  me makes a really really big difference between you. You know, I think
• 32:37
  motivation counts for a lot. So there's that's true. Florine is pointing out,
• 32:45
  I feel like here it makes a little more sense because of their mother.
• 32:50
  You're correct, you know what, I take it back because you're right.
• 32:53
  That is like the main point that she made is don't kill out of
• 32:58
  vengeance, and that is sort of what it seems like they're about to do.
• 33:01
  I would argue that it's not even vengeance. It's a preventative measure,
• 33:08
  especially considering in a lot of cases, taking somebody like into custody, taking
• 33:15
  them hostage, whatever, is actually more difficult than just killing them. And
• 33:21
  so these dudes who were about to fight these pirates, they didn't have the
• 33:27
  princes right next to them when they started this whole thing. The princes are
• 33:30
  like, you know, sort of swoop in. So I don't blame them
• 33:34
  for just being like, I'm just let's just kill him. That'll make it
• 33:37
  easier. But yeah, the Prince insists here and tells his brothers to manage
• 33:42
  it. I've really grown to like his brothers a lot. It's like one
• 33:45
  of those moments where he the two of them are so weird looking that I
• 33:52
  sort of was anticipating, and I know that this is like sort of fucked
• 33:57
  up of me, but there it is. I was sort of anticipate that
• 34:00
  these guys were going to turn out to maybe be less awesome than their brother
• 34:07
  that it was going to be a sort of you know that the hot one
• 34:14
  is the good guy and then his like weird brothers are actually sort of corrupted,
• 34:19
  because that's a thing a lot when it's princesses. You've got like your
• 34:23
  main girl who's the pure hearted, beautiful one, and then the two like
• 34:31
  other sisters who are less hot and also really mean and terrible. And I'm
• 34:39
  glad to be wrong. I knew that they were obviously the previous episodes where
• 34:46
  they support their sister in the midst of everything with their mother dying. That's
• 34:51
  like a huge moment that solidified that for me. But I just wanted to
• 34:55
  address that. I sort of I was touched by that moment so much,
• 35:01
  partially because I had an expectation that I didn't even stop and think about,
• 35:07
  really, and I just kind of feel guilty about that and feel the need
• 35:13
  to address it. So, you know, we're all of our minds are
• 35:17
  poisoned, guys. What can I say? So? Uh, this is
• 35:23
  this is when the fucking hammerhead comes in. I thought it was previously,
• 35:27
  but no, he comes in to try and go up against Fukaboshi. Is
• 35:31
  that the Prince's name? Who is really disgusted that this guy is going to
• 35:37
  go up against other fishmen. He's just like I already thought it was disgusting
• 35:43
  that you were willing to harm humans, but going after other fishmen that is
• 35:49
  truly beyond the pale, and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. I
• 35:52
  should mention too, that Fukuboshi has a it almost looks like a sort of
• 35:58
  mole in the center of his forehead, and I feel like that might be
• 36:02
  a marking that is like put on people in certain cultures. I know that
• 36:07
  there's like Bindi's, but I'm talking about an actual, almost like a scarring
• 36:12
  sort of effect. And I wasn't sure if that's what this is supposed to
• 36:15
  be or if it's something other. The way that the camera zooms in on
• 36:21
  his forehead and zooms in on that like marking. For a moment, I
• 36:25
  was like, am I supposed to take the power of his attack or his
• 36:30
  defense in here? Really comes from that? I don't know? But regardless,
• 36:37
  Yeah, our hammerhead dude comes after Fukabushi and really thinks that he's going
• 36:42
  to handle this shit, and he swings down on him and it gets blocked
• 36:49
  to a degree that it's actually also an attack, and the next thing we
• 36:53
  know, my guy is all trussed up along with all of his cohorts,
• 37:00
  and this leads to a kind of wild like the situation a little bit later
• 37:06
  on. But uh, then we jump over to Hordy and he's saying,
• 37:15
  like one of his men is asking, do you think we need to have
• 37:19
  somebody stay here and guard them? And he says, there's no need.
• 37:22
  There's nobody who can get through the gate, so all we need are people
• 37:28
  to be guarding the gate, and then you know, we'll be all set
• 37:32
  and you can't lock out the new king. I was. I guess it
• 37:38
  makes sense that they can't have guards around them, and we have to give
• 37:42
  a reason why they wouldn't do that. But to me, the way that
• 37:46
  the palace works and the way that it seems that you can approach it from
• 37:52
  so many different angles because it's underwater, I do not feel like this makes
• 37:59
  sense. But maybe it does. I don't know. Neptune is trying to
• 38:07
  tell him like, you're not gonna be respected as a king if you try
• 38:14
  and rule through violence, and Horty says, are those gonna be your last
• 38:19
  words? I'd have gone for something stronger, and he says that, and
• 38:24
  then there's a sort of like animation of a silvery slash across a black background,
• 38:31
  which I will not lie you guys. I thought that was Hordy killing
• 38:37
  King Neptune. I had a real moment of like, oh, because I'm
• 38:43
  sort of on the fence about whether King Neptune's getting executed. A part of
• 38:46
  me feels like, of course not. And then there's a part of me
• 38:51
  that feels as if the prince is being set up as such a competent ruler
• 38:59
  so that we can then get like him coming into his birthright and us feeling
• 39:06
  as an audience confident that he is able to handle this. And I may
• 39:13
  just I don't really want Neptune to die. I've grown to like him in
• 39:20
  a very short time. He's I don't know, I just sort of feel
• 39:23
  like an affection for him, So I don't really want that. And so
• 39:28
  when it seemed as if Horty was like, oh, those are your last
• 39:30
  words, lame, and then it seemed like you just killed him, I
• 39:34
  was like, oh, wow, this is just this has gone a different
• 39:37
  way than I expected. But it turns out that it's Horty's body that animation
• 39:45
  is supposed to give us a visual of like the pain that he's feeling internally,
• 39:52
  which I always am fascinated by this sort of like attempt to show a
• 39:59
  feeling via a visual medium only. And I think that there have been moments
• 40:07
  where I've experienced a type of pain where our light has seemed to flash behind
• 40:10
  my eyes, that sort of thing. So I actually really liked this once
• 40:14
  I understood what was going on. He like clutches his chest and he says
• 40:19
  that the scar is burning from where Zoro cut him, which I should mention
• 40:27
  that, like it's quite well healed already, so I guess that's part of
• 40:32
  the I don't know if that's like the drug that's healing him, or if
• 40:37
  it's him being a fish man and he heals a lot faster because then I
• 40:39
  don't recall. But either way, he wants more of this drug and he
• 40:45
  takes like a handful of them. He's very sloppy with it. To you,
• 40:49
  guys, I just want to say, like he takes a handful and
• 40:52
  he doesn't even try and get all of the ones he picked up in his
• 40:55
  hand into his mouth. He just sort of opens his mouth and then drops
• 40:59
  them at random onto his own face and whatever gets into his mouth. He's
• 41:04
  like, good enough. I was like, this feels like a pretty precious
• 41:08
  resource, my guy. I feel like you should be a little bit more
• 41:12
  careful with all of those, but nobody asks me. So he gets pumped
• 41:20
  up here again, and fully, you guys, I am watching this feeling
• 41:25
  very smug about the fact that the more of this he takes, it's going
• 41:30
  to have an effect on him and he's going to possibly die from it.
• 41:36
  There's just I don't feel a lot of doubt about where this is going,
• 41:43
  which made me very sheepish when things happen a little bit later. It doesn't
• 41:47
  quite happen here, but here, you know, he just gets pumped up
• 41:51
  again, and he's asked, like, what should we do with the straw
• 41:55
  hats? And he says nothing. They're just humans. They'll drown if left
• 42:00
  alone, and the palace is secure, so no one will be able to
• 42:02
  rescue them, regardless of who comes forget them. And I always laugh at
• 42:07
  this because the idea of just like it's like Doctor Evil when he's asked by
• 42:15
  his son, are you gonna kill them yourself? Or at least like stay
• 42:19
  and watch them die, and he's like, why don't you just shoot them?
• 42:23
  No, I'm going to put them in an easily escapable situation involving an
• 42:28
  overly elaborate and exotic death, And then well, you're not gonna stay and
• 42:32
  watch it, and he says no, no, no, I'm just going
• 42:36
  to leave and then assume everything went to plan what and his son just being
• 42:40
  like, here, I've got a gun. We can shoot him together.
• 42:44
  It'll be fun. And he's like trying to just like actually get a thing
• 42:47
  done. And that's sort of what I felt like here. It doesn't ring
• 42:52
  true because Horty is so bloodthirsty and hates humans so much that, especially if
• 42:59
  these people are part of the group that took down r along, he would
• 43:02
  absolutely want to kill them himself and make a big thing of it. Like,
• 43:07
  there's just I don't buy this at all in terms of character movement.
• 43:12
  It doesn't make any sense. I understand the need for it, but I
• 43:16
  just got to call it out here. So let's see when Brooke says,
• 43:23
  I think I found it, guys, a bright ray of hope. Those
• 43:27
  fishmen we were dealing with earlier have left, so the palace is completely empty
• 43:32
  or it would be if they hadn't left Papago behind. Now we just need
• 43:37
  to ask Papago to find the keys to get us out of the chains.
• 43:40
  And so Brooke has to go to Papago and your boy isn't taking it well.
• 43:47
  When Brooke appears, he really freaks out. Understandably. It's extremely creepy
• 43:54
  looking, and Brook's trying to be cheery and be like he keeps saying like,
• 43:59
  I've been looking for you and I found you at last, And when
• 44:01
  you don't know what it is that's coming at you, that sounds really really
• 44:05
  threatening. I don't really blame Papago for like just kind of losing his mind.
• 44:09
  And he tries to run away and they have him like literally hitting every
• 44:15
  pillar in the face on his way out, and Brooke is like, find
• 44:21
  the keys. Wait, no, the sword, go find the sword,
• 44:24
  go away. I don't know what you're talking about. You what if you
• 44:28
  just listen to me? Wait? And that is how that ends. So
• 44:36
  we have the fight between Lufy and Jimbay where they hit each other. They
• 44:42
  get interrupted by Robin and then Sangy jumps into the hole mix because he wants
• 44:47
  to save Robin because she's gonna be between them when they punch, but she
• 44:52
  manages to sort of step out of the way, and so both of them
• 44:57
  wind up punching each other and also sign it's a really weird setup. That's
• 45:01
  all I'm saying about this. And this is when Jim finally fucking explains the
• 45:10
  whole thing about the dynamic with Loofy stepping in, and Sanji says, Horty's
• 45:16
  gonna take the whole island if we don't do something soon, and we have
• 45:20
  a lot of friends that live here and you know, yaday. He makes
• 45:24
  a very good argument, and basically Jimbay is just like, oh, well,
• 45:30
  I'm still going to like stop you, and Lufy rightfully is very angry
• 45:37
  and says, he said all of that cool stuff, and you're still not
• 45:40
  gonna let me go. He's right, He's right to be angry about this.
• 45:49
  So the two of them once again facing off. I'm realizing that I
• 45:53
  spent like forty five minutes talking about only the first of the three episodes,
• 45:57
  but honestly, I'm talking about more than what just happens in the first episode,
• 46:02
  so I feel like it's valid. So we have like a bunch of
• 46:08
  different confrontations between various pirates and the townsfolk. One of them that really weird
• 46:17
  looking guy who I think is called Daroma. He chews through the walls of
• 46:22
  a factory and just makes it collapse. And he had asked for something to
• 46:30
  eat, and this guy brings him a lovely what looks to be like one
• 46:36
  of those rolled cakes, a Swiss roll I think those are called. I
• 46:38
  can't remember I should know this, but and like a cappuccino, and he
• 46:45
  just chucks the tray and says, I don't want some trendy cappuccino latte thing
• 46:50
  when I'm hungry. That junk's not real food. What in hell do I
• 46:54
  look like? And he then says, you're starting to look pretty tasty yourself
• 47:02
  for a snack. I like fishbones and I like him big, which did
• 47:07
  kind of make me go, Okay, is he a fishman himself or is
• 47:13
  he just meant to be some other creature that's teamed up with them? Is
• 47:15
  he a cannibal? In other words? Is what I'm asking, you know?
• 47:22
  But yeah, and he's just like apparently can just move through what amounts
• 47:28
  to solid stone like he's swimming through it. It's very weird, and the
• 47:32
  fact that none of them have ever seen this before is part of what's making
• 47:35
  me go like, is he actually a regular fishman because this isn't something that
• 47:39
  we have seen before. So this the oh here it is. Here's the
• 47:47
  thing with the Hammerhead Shark, because he is getting really depressed about the situation
• 48:00
  that they are currently in. And I just want to read this because it
• 48:05
  was a little confusing for me. Your plan isn't going to work, Boss
• 48:10
  Hordy would rather you cut us down some than negotiate. He's more ruthless than
• 48:15
  other fishman pirates. It's why he looks down Sun on the rest of us,
• 48:21
  and the other guys sitting around him are like, man, he's completely
• 48:29
  lost all of his ability to go on since being captured, and one of
• 48:31
  them says his power level has dropped to down Sun, which I was like,
• 48:37
  that's weird. You're just imitating his manner of speech. So he says,
• 48:42
  let me give him an energy steroid, and they have it on them
• 48:45
  and despite being tied up, they're able to spit one into his mouth somehow.
• 48:51
  So he's sitting there and he's still kind of talking about Hordy makes me
• 48:54
  frown son and as he's saying, this is the begin bulging out. Horty
• 49:00
  doesn't like fishermen who do business with human pirates. He'll give them the Bumpson
• 49:05
  without mercy, and somebody says Bumpson and I was I could not stop laughing,
• 49:12
  you guys. Normally these people's weird vocal tics go completely unacknowledged within the
• 49:17
  episode, So when somebody is like, what did he just say? I
• 49:22
  think that is hilarious. All those fishmen who donated their blood to help out
• 49:28
  wounded humans, he gave them the old Wumpson in the dark of night.
• 49:34
  Wumpson. Horny believes that human blood is naturally tainted, and whenever we receive
• 49:40
  their blood or offer them our own, we do sun our pure blood a
• 49:45
  disservice. He's back to saying, dooson now, So it's like, uh,
• 49:52
  yeah, is wild. This guy's eyes start glowing red and he is
• 49:55
  able to fully burst out of the chains that he is wrapped up in,
• 50:00
  which, uh, that's quite a bit of power up from this one pill.
• 50:07
  It makes a little bit of sense why Hordy is able to do some
• 50:12
  truly bonker shit later, But yeah, he becomes lethal again with his giant
• 50:21
  weird hammer and he's like, all right, men, I'm free. I
• 50:23
  freed you all, and now we're going the execution. I'm going to kind
• 50:28
  of speed through a lot of the rest of this particular episode because it's mostly
• 50:32
  us seeing all of the different like prime henchmen of Hordy and the way that
• 50:37
  they're rounding up or dealing with the townsfolk. So we have our guy who's
• 50:45
  drunk all the time, and they basically try and say he's too drunk to
• 50:49
  fight, and he proves them wrong by slicing a bunch of dudes down,
• 50:52
  which they're then like, why don't we just bring him somewhere where enemies are
• 50:55
  and so he can just flail at everybody around him and actually hit enemies.
• 51:01
  Then we have a particularly funny one with a chameleon guy where the townsfolk are
• 51:07
  like trying to fight him but they can't see him, and they're getting really
• 51:09
  frustrated because this is a very very unfair fight. And then they see a
• 51:15
  cockroach and somebody's like, quick kill it in the midst of this fight.
• 51:20
  That's their concern, which I thought was honestly valid. I hate cockroaches so
• 51:24
  much, and they stomp the shit out of it and continue waiting for the
• 51:30
  attack from this guy, and then nothing happens, and it takes them a
• 51:36
  minute before they're like, wait what, and he comes back into view because
• 51:43
  he just somehow was on the ground under where they stomped to get the cockroach,
• 51:50
  so they inadvertently stomped the shit out of his face, which made me
• 51:55
  lol because that is the dumbest joke, Like that doesn't there's no sense in
• 52:00
  it. I don't care. It was very very funny and very unexpected.
• 52:05
  I did not see that coming. So this is when we have the princes
• 52:12
  talking about the straw hats and how you know, I am going to keep
• 52:17
  them from murdering our father, and I'm going to stop the townsfolk from having
• 52:22
  their hearts and minds turned from everything that we have worked for. And they
• 52:29
  admit that there are some things that make sense now that they probably should have
• 52:32
  investigated a lot sooner that probably were due to Hordy's influence. And I did
• 52:39
  like this conversation, all of them just sort of like stepping back and being
• 52:43
  like, hmm, probably we should have seen this coming a little bit more.
• 52:46
  That doesn't happen very often in this show, and people being like,
• 52:52
  all right, you know what, I copped to it. I really made
• 52:54
  some mistakes and should have predicted some of this was going to go down.
• 53:01
  So eventually we have the guy with eight arms that they're gesturing with fire near
• 53:10
  him, and he freaks out because he thinks they're trying to fry him like
• 53:14
  Klamari and serve him with sake, and his guys are like, what do
• 53:19
  you even mean? Of course, that's not what we're trying to do.
• 53:22
  He's extremely paranoid and sensitive. Then we have the arrival in the plaza of
• 53:34
  Cordy and all of his men below him are sort of worried because they can
• 53:42
  see that he is beginning to sweat and collapse like he is not doing well.
• 53:47
  And the king realizes what's going on and he's like, this is taking
• 53:52
  your life for uce, dude, and Hordy just tells him to shut up,
• 53:55
  and his own men are like, dude, you're really pushing yourself way
• 54:02
  too hard. You gotta stop and take a rest. We've basically won already.
• 54:08
  We've got the king, we've got this whole place sewn up. It
• 54:14
  just sit back and let us take care of the rest of these things.
• 54:17
  And he doesn't want to do that. He's like curled up saying he's going
• 54:22
  to like that he can't breathe, and eventually he's just like, I want
• 54:28
  more of it, and he takes I think almost all of it that they
• 54:34
  have left, and it's just like as he begins to take it and that
• 54:40
  the transformation is happening, one of the guys is thinking what I am thinking,
• 54:49
  He's about to like die or something is going to happen to sort of
• 54:52
  like take him down. For a little while, I was so deeply wrong.
• 54:58
  I really thought this was gonna go oh the same way as Maria,
• 55:00
  and I think ultimately it will. But what happens in the meantime they use
• 55:07
  this wild like reddish sort of thing around the figures that take this pill.
• 55:14
  But his eyes also go bright red and he changes color entirely so that his
• 55:22
  hair is white as well, and he just overall has a way creepier look
• 55:30
  to him, and his men are just like, uh, something's wrong,
• 55:36
  and he starts smiling and it's just like, no, nothing's wrong. I
• 55:39
  feel better than I've ever felt. And he manages to literally like snap a
• 55:45
  finger and bring down the whole like all of the buildings in this surrounding area.
• 55:53
  He also looks like he's grown in height, but I can't tell if
• 55:58
  that's just supposed to be the we're looking at him from or if he is.
• 56:02
  He looks bigger to me, that's true, right, So then we
• 56:09
  go into the final episode and uh again, the like argument between Loofy and
• 56:20
  Jim Bay is still happening, while Horty's over here turning into a fucking maniac,
• 56:25
  and we have all of these different animals attacking the underwater animals. It's
• 56:35
  for me, this was sort of like, this wasn't as interesting as a
• 56:39
  lot of the other things that were going on, and I don't feel like
• 56:43
  I need to go over it because it's they're all beaten by the princess.
• 56:47
  Ultimately, the one thing I do want to touch on is Deccan Vanderdkin,
• 56:52
  who is crying over his like he's crying as if there was a breakup,
• 56:55
  but they never were together. So he's just really crying at the rejection of
• 57:00
  the princess, saying that he is not her type and is saying, like,
• 57:07
  my heart is broken. You guys don't know what I've been going through.
• 57:10
  And he says, I loved her from the moment I saw her.
• 57:15
  Sure, she was just a kid ill, but I knew if I married
• 57:20
  her, I could fulfill my ancestor's dream. They've really made this guy so
• 57:24
  extra creepy, and he comes to the conclusion that if I can't have her
• 57:30
  and I can't kill her, I am going to kill everyone else, which
• 57:40
  truly doesn't make sense. But also, there are plenty of guys out there
• 57:45
  who would react this way to rejection, so I can't even fault it because
• 57:51
  men are insane. So you know, Deuo's being rejected has resulted in the
• 57:55
  murder of many other people who were not in involved in the past, and
• 58:02
  that's just real life unfortunately. So it's weird because Vanderdeck is really not part
• 58:08
  of like the takeover. He is just solely here for the princess and doesn't
• 58:13
  seem to be at all interested in what's going on with Fishman Island, and
• 58:17
  so we really only go back to him very very occasionally. We have one
• 58:24
  dude who's like one of the last soldiers available, and he's got some sort
• 58:29
  of explosive on him that he's going to try and do a suicide bomb and
• 58:34
  he's spotted, and he's a little too far for most of them to do
• 58:37
  anything. But then Horty sees him and he does a technique water shot,
• 58:46
  and when he sends it, it goes right through the guy. It's not
• 58:52
  even like a bullet. It's more like a torpedo because it goes through the
• 58:59
  guy, through the cliff behind him, through several trees behind him, hits
• 59:06
  another cliff and goes through that And this is all happening as the man is
• 59:09
  still falling, so it's also traveling at an incredible rate of speed, and
• 59:15
  it finally comes to a stop like six cliff sides later, and I love
• 59:22
  it. One of the uh I think it's one of the pirates, is
• 59:25
  like, correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't water shots supposed to be
• 59:31
  not that strong? It like keeps going through so many cliff sides that it
• 59:37
  eventually ends up on the side of the island with a bunch of mermaids who
• 59:39
  don't even know what it is, and they hear it and they're just sort
• 59:44
  of like, what is that? And then it just drops back into the
• 59:46
  ocean, which is actually a really cool way to end it that it's not
• 59:52
  a bullet that lands anywhere. It literally travels so far that it just ends
• 59:57
  up in the ocean on the other side. But yeah, this is a
• 1:00:02
  really incredible level up on his ability, Like what do you even do?
• 1:00:07
  I know that Lufy can withstand bullets, but there's something about this that I'm
• 1:00:12
  like, would that even work with this guy? You know? And then
• 1:00:15
  we also have like the bubbles that are like sort of a weak point,
• 1:00:24
  so I don't know how they're there's the confrontation between the Prince and Hordy,
• 1:00:39
  and you know, the Prince makes this like impassioned speech about giving humans a
• 1:00:45
  chance and trying to like change the future and not just continue doing the same
• 1:00:51
  shit we've always done, and Hordy just basically is like, give me a
• 1:00:57
  fucking break. You guys, this is so pitiful. You're thinking that you're
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  being kind, but you're being an idiot. They have shown us time and
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  time again what they're really made of, and when they beat the sea monsters,
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  He's also like, that's really not a big deal. You think you
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  did that that this makes you badass all of a sudden, and we see
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  all of his guys behind him starting to take these pills as well, and
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  then immediately launch from their place, except for the one drunk guy. He
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  does eventually, but he's always last, which I think is a nice touch.
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  And all they have to do to these princes, they don't even need
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  to kill them. All they need to do is just pop the bubble that
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  is supporting them and their movement through the air, and they just go down.
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  Which what a weak point that is, really, I mean, that's
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  a pretty huge Achilles heel. You guys like I didn't even consider how this
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  is our main attack, and I mean, that's I feel like we should
• 1:02:08
  have come up with a better way of doing all of this by now then,
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  but it is what it is, I suppose. Yikes though. So
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  yeah, So that's the end of the episodes. But I like these three.
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  There's a lot going on and there's some interesting questions that you can argue
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  over. I'm always a fan of that. I just also I was taken
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  so off guard by Hoordy just turning into a fucking mutant hulk. So all
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  right, guys, I'm gonna wrap this up, But thank you so much
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  for listening. Thank you Michael also for commissioning this. Thank you Florine for
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  coming into the chat and chatting with me and giving me some good things to
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  think about with some of my my hang ups on this episode. I appreciate
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  you and until next time TU THELU motherfuckers that was an unspoiled network