Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Old Kempton's The Old Stables NOT a Bourbon, but an An Australian Whisky from Tasmania
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- 0:00Incredible flavours, even better stories.
- 0:05One Pour, 10 Minuts, Aussie Bourbon Lovers, Sharing Bourbon with Australia.
- 0:14There we go.
- 0:15I always underestimate how long it's going to take me to get the cork out of the top.
- 0:20It's hard when you have a five-second Timer in front of you, coming down, five,
- 0:23four, three, two, one, you're going to get the pop right to it.
- 0:25You're revealing behind the scenes a bit there.
- 0:27What are we having, Hedge?
- 0:28We're having an old Kempton single malt whiskey.
- 0:33I know it's not a bourbon. This is the old stable.
- 0:35Cheers. Cheers.
- 0:36If you're playing along at home, this is the December 2021, which is batch four.
- 0:41The significance of that is that this is probably the batch that was
- 0:46judged, the one that won the award, which was best Australian small batch single
- 0:51malt in 2022 at the World Whisky Awards.
- 0:54So it's award-winning, but it's not bourbon.
- 0:57No.
- 0:57Are you okay with the fact that we're drinking a whiskey that's not bourbon,
- 1:00or are you a bit offended by this idea?
- 1:02No, I think, well, we can't get Australian bourbon for obvious reasons.
- 1:08Right.
- 1:09But whiskey made in Australia, Tazie is a place to go.
- 1:13So I think it's good We're drinking some local quality, not bourbon whiskey.
- 1:19Not bourbon whiskey.
- 1:20So sharing bourbon with Australia one pour at a time, this is not bourbon.
- 1:25But it does get aged in old bourbon cast.
- 1:28It's one of the things that maybe is the connexion between Australian whiskey and
- 1:34bourbon, really, is that we use a lot of whiskey barrels.
- 1:36Well, for lots of stuff, of course, everyone uses bourbon barrels
- 1:38for lots of stuff, sorry. But we do...
- 1:41The Australian whiskey industry does use the bourbon barrels, often
- 1:44refurbished, which these ones are.
- 1:46And Old Kempton in particular?
- 1:47Well, Old Kempton definitely, too. Yeah.
- 1:49And this one, some of this, I don't know exactly what barrels have been used
- 1:53here, but they'll be using some wine.
- 1:56They use port barrels and Pinot barrels, I know that.
- 1:59And they definitely It's just bourbon barrels.
- 2:00So, yeah, that's definitely a thing.
- 2:02And what are you getting on the nose?
- 2:04I'm getting not bourbon.
- 2:08It's a single malt made in what I think, and I'm probably going to say
- 2:13this wrong, is the Scotch style.
- 2:16So the grain straight up the front there is the malt of barley.
- 2:21And so that's the single...
- 2:24I'm not getting this wrong.
- 2:25The single malt is the malt of barley.
- 2:29Yeah, It's definitely much more like a…
- 2:34There's some sweetness to it, but it's got that tanginess that I
- 2:38think- A grainy, I like it.
- 2:40It just smells like grain.
- 2:44We'll get to the reason why we're drinking this in a sec, but this was recommended to
- 2:47me when we were at quite a nice restaurant called Amaru, and they
- 2:51said, Would you like it?
- 2:54You were after a bourbon.
- 2:56Something to wrap up the meal.
- 2:59I was like, I'd bourbon.
- 3:00And they're like, We don't have bourbon, but we've got this whiskey
- 3:02that drinks beautifully.
- 3:04I was like, All right, give me a go.
- 3:06So this is the-And you were suitably impressed.
- 3:08We now own a bottle.
- 3:09And this is not our first one either. We've gone through a few of these.
- 3:12And we love our Bourbon.
- 3:15So we really both mostly enjoy Bourbon, but we do have some Tassie whiskys.
- 3:18We love a trip to Tasmania as well.
- 3:20It's our end of January, beginning of February sojourn, at least once a year.
- 3:27And you've actually been to Old Kempton Distiller.
- 3:30I have been to Old Kempton.
- 3:31So Kempton is about an hour north of Hobart.
- 3:34If you can imagine a map of Australia, if you're not an Australian,
- 3:38Tasmania is the island at the very bottom underneath Melbourne.
- 3:41About an hour flight from Melbourne to get to Hobart.
- 3:43And then if you drive back up the island of Tasmania, you get to Kempton.
- 3:49It's just a tiny little town.
- 3:51And old Kempton Distilleries in the...
- 3:52I think it's the old bank or something like that.
- 3:54It's an old building. It's the main house.
- 3:57And then there's a distiller that's connected to it.
- 4:01And it has some fun history of its own.
- 4:04But Tasmanian distilling is interesting.
- 4:07When you think about the history of bourbon and the history of
- 4:10whisky's around the world, you think about how long it's been going for.
- 4:13But Bill Lahr, who's the grandfather of Australian whiskey, really only
- 4:19finally got the government to say you're allowed to distil anything in Australia,
- 4:22distil a spirit in Australia in the early '90s.
- 4:26So that's the earliest distilling whiskey.
- 4:29The Australian There you go.
- 4:30Whisky industry, the spirits industry.
- 4:32I don't know what I talk about whiskey.
- 4:33Yeah, is only about 30 years old.
- 4:36And so even our oldest stuff isn't that old.
- 4:40If it's a real Australian whiskey, you really made in Tassian.
- 4:43So the bulk of our distilleries are in Tasmania, which is close- Would you say
- 4:47Old Kempton is one of the more well-known Tassian distilleries?
- 4:51Probably, I think in the top, say 10.
- 4:55I'm making this up, but that's probably about, right?
- 4:59Lark is the The one that everyone knows, and it's quite big.
- 5:02There was another distillery called Nant that doesn't exist anymore, and that's
- 5:06quite famously is involved in what's now a court case about.
- 5:12A lot of good stories behind the whiskey that we drink.
- 5:15Well, maybe we could do that another time.
- 5:16But the guy's accused of having swindled a lot of people a lot of money
- 5:21through a barrel investing scheme.
- 5:24And then there's others like Overeem and Spring Bay and newer ones like Warps
- 5:31Harbour and stuff like that as well.
- 5:32Bell Grove is a quite famous one because the character who runs up.
- 5:35But yeah, there's lots of distilleries down there.
- 5:37A good fun and great to visit.
- 5:40And you come to Australia if you want to check it.
- 5:42And were you happy when you got poured this instead of a bourbon Did it…
- 5:46Was that happy?
- 5:48I think it impressed you because you weren't prepared to be impressed
- 5:53because they didn't have bourbon.
- 5:55I think…
- 5:57Was that impressed?
- 5:59I don't know if I was I was happy.
- 6:02It's super easy drinking. It's only 40 % or 40.
- 6:045 %. So it goes down pretty smoothly.
- 6:07There is some lovely sweetness that comes from the barrels.
- 6:09Of course, they're using second fill barrels.
- 6:11So you get some sweetness from the bourbon barrels they use and then the
- 6:16wine barrels, too.
- 6:17So, yeah, it's lovely.
- 6:19I think every time I have these whiskies that aren't bourbon, that don't
- 6:23have the sweetness and the corn influence.
- 6:25Missing the corn.
- 6:27I remember why I love bourbon so much.
- 6:28That's really what my answer But for those who are after a very delicious tasting
- 6:33whiskey that's readily available in Australia.
- 6:36Yeah.
- 6:37What? An old Kempton is a great one to grab.
- 6:40One of the really interesting things that happens because the whiskey industry is
- 6:43so young in Australia and because we've got these huge taxes, these crazy taxes.
- 6:48It's really expensive.
- 6:49This is a 500 mil bottle.
- 6:52Sorry, get out and support the Aussie still is.
- 6:55This is a 500 mil bottle.
- 6:56I think it's about 200 bucks.
- 6:58Yeah, compared to what you could buy a bottle of bourbon in the US.
- 7:01A tonne of bourbon in the US for that.
- 7:02A tonne of bourbon in Australian dollars is still quite a good bourbon.
- 7:06Yeah, it's like a very nice drop of bourbon.
- 7:09But this is like...
- 7:10Yeah.
- 7:11Yeah, but get amongst it.
- 7:13They do some tiny batches, Small batches by comparison to
- 7:18American distilleries and by Bourbon runs.
- 7:20And the other one that's interesting is we talked about…
- 7:23The reason we're having it tonight is we were in Tazia on a weekend,
- 7:28and we were talking about going to do a distillery tour.
- 7:32The distillery tours over there are so tiny.
- 7:35Everything's so small.
- 7:36It's done in these tiny little-Very boutique little.
- 7:39Pots stills and small batches and all that stuff.
- 7:41It's definitely not the same level you get when you have a bit of fun
- 7:44on Kentucky Bourbon Trail.
- 7:46No, but it's still delicious.
- 7:50And what- And Tassie.
- 7:53Tassie is a fabulous place to go visit.
- 7:56Why is it a fabulous place to visit? I don't know.
- 7:58It's not very far away from where we are, and they make delicious whiskies.
- 8:01Yes. And it gives you that old school feel.
- 8:05I feel like I'm in, I don't know, Scotland or England or
- 8:10just the weather and the old buildings.
- 8:12It's a good vibe.
- 8:13I love Tassie.
- 8:15I feel relaxed when I'm in Tasmania.
- 8:16Do you know what's a really good thing to do in Tassie?
- 8:18What? Drink bourbon.
- 8:20Yes, we do.
- 8:21We drink the local whisky and we take a bottle of bourbon.
- 8:24I did go to the Tassie Whisky Festival.
- 8:27Tassie Whisky Show. Tassie Whisky Festival.
- 8:29Tazz Whisky Week, I think it's called.
- 8:31This year, just gone. Last year.
- 8:32Last August. And it was good fun.
- 8:34Yeah. Lots of great stories came back from that.
- 8:38I didn't get to go.
- 8:39Australian, really.
- 8:40But yeah, good fun.
- 8:43And the thing that I love about it is I love supporting these little distillers
- 8:48who are doing great stuff and just plugging away doing amazing stuff.
- 8:52The whiskey is beautiful for sickle moults and does compete with the-Oh, yeah.
- 8:57World's best.
- 8:58Solvence Cove, one, world's best whiskey in the air a few years ago, which is
- 9:01another one of the well-known Australian distillers.
- 9:04Solvence Cove is basically where we stay.
- 9:07I think Tazia also has that little thing about it that I found really
- 9:12big in Kentucky.
- 9:14They're each lift each other up like that, what is it?
- 9:17Rising Tide lifts all boats.
- 9:19They're really supportive of each other and love helping each other out.
- 9:25And that same vibe is very much in Kentucky with all the
- 9:29bourbon distilleries and everything.
- 9:32They all really support each other and are able to tell each other great
- 9:37things and recommend other ones to go to.
- 9:39I feel like Tazie definitely has that vibe as well.
- 9:42Yep, absolutely.
- 9:44So if you do get to Australia.
- 9:45I mean, obviously outside of Tassie, up on the mainland, there's
- 9:48lots of good ones, too. Starwood and Archie Rose and Gospel.
- 9:53There's a good list of ones on the mainland as well.
- 9:56So check out Aussie distilleries as well, because they make great stuff, too.
- 9:59It's not bourbon.
- 10:00It can't be called bourbon if it's not made in America.
- 10:02And they often are not trying to do that 51% corn mash bill.
- 10:07But definitely- We do love the corn. But we do- We do love the corn.
- 10:10But we do- We love supporting Aussie Whiskeies.
- 10:12Cheers. Cheers.
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