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New docuseries tells story of pregnancy and alleged deceit · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Neil was charismatic and wit Tea, just a nice normal man.
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  Speaker 2: Cudgels Ralph. That was the ruse. There's something very strange
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  Speaker 2: about this baby. You can keep the baby great for you,
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  Speaker 2: but it ain't mind Darnie. Seriously, seriously, he is a vine.
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken to probably two hundred people who Neil traumatized.
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  Speaker 3: Everything he told me was a lie.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen anything as extreme as this.
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  Speaker 1: Someone who really needs to stop him.
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  Speaker 4: For years, this story lived in whispers until it crossed
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  Speaker 4: the Atlantic and found an audience on the hit podcast Betrayal.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, a show about
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  Speaker 3: the people we trust the most and the deceptions that
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  Speaker 3: change everything.
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  Speaker 4: Gunning is now sharing these stories on the ABC true
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  Speaker 4: crime docu series Betrayal, Secrets and Lies.
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  Speaker 3: Today, I'm talking with Tina Maya.
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  Speaker 4: Tina's story begins after she moves home to London for
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  Speaker 4: a new job, leaving New York, where she'd been married,
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  Speaker 4: divorced and had a baby.
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  Speaker 1: So it was very early twenty sixteen. I was at
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  Speaker 1: one of these conferences in London. That's where I stumbled
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  Speaker 1: across Neil Lawman.
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  Speaker 3: He's a successful businessman, and he even has an interesting hobby.
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  Speaker 3: He loves cooking and appears in YouTube videos.
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  Speaker 2: If you cooked that it's not actually come around for
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  Speaker 2: dinner and let you cook from me. Would you spoon
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  Speaker 2: me afterwards?
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: Tina had no desire for a relationship, but after the conference,
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  Speaker 3: Neil texted her out of the blow.
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  Speaker 1: And Neil seems like he might be good fun for
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  Speaker 1: a drink, okay, And he said that he was divorced
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  Speaker 1: also and they lived together in the States too, and
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  Speaker 1: that his ex wife had gotten quite bitter about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he couldn't give her children. He's an iPad
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  Speaker 1: testicular cancer and completely infertile. I felt like he was
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  Speaker 1: being quite vulnerable and genuine actually drew me to him.
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  Speaker 3: Tina starts seeing Neil more often. She still has no
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  Speaker 3: desire for a relationship, but she's having fun with him,
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  Speaker 3: and she's enjoying the sex.
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  Speaker 1: That was part of what it was and part of
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  Speaker 1: what was fun. Even though he told me he was infertile,
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  Speaker 1: I was still worried because having another child was not
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  Speaker 1: in my plan. He's like, no, like I have zero's
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  Speaker 1: book count. But he had sort of dropped into conversation
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  Speaker 1: about having a lot of allergies in One of those
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  Speaker 1: allergies was vacex, so he couldn't use protection.
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  Speaker 3: Tina started noticing things about Neil that were off putting.
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  Speaker 1: I heard him have a phone conversation with his mother
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  Speaker 1: and he was being so awful to her. And then
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  Speaker 1: there was the lyings he was clearly lying about his education.
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  Speaker 1: So it was these little things.
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  Speaker 3: Just as Tina's hoping that this relationship with Neil feeds away,
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  Speaker 3: she starts to experience this familiar but concerning brain fog.
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  Speaker 1: And then my period was late, so I've got a
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy test. Immediately popped up pregnant. I was like, well, no,
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  Speaker 1: I can't be pregnant. Bought a few more that didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, Neil doesn't know he can have children.
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  Speaker 3: Tina decides to keep the baby and reaches out to Neil.
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  Speaker 1: And then he really got quite venomous.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot produce children if you are pregnant. How you
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  Speaker 2: deal with it, it's not my problem. I have zero span.
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  Speaker 2: Don't sit there putting things on me that this could
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  Speaker 2: be mine because it isn't medically impossible.
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  Speaker 1: It got really weird, so I just said, you're more
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  Speaker 1: than welcome to take a DNA to where the baby's born.
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  Speaker 3: Neil refuses to do the DNA task, but Tina didn't
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  Speaker 3: need it. She knew he was the father. She hadn't
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  Speaker 3: been with anybody else. She just couldn't understand why he
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  Speaker 3: was adamantly denying it. But she moved on without Noil,
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  Speaker 3: and in January of twenty seventeen, Tina welcomed her baby, girl, Josephine,
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  Speaker 3: and she calls her a feefee.
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  Speaker 1: When my daughter was born, she had really serious jaundice.
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  Speaker 1: The light treatment wasn't working, and they said them, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to need blood types of the parents, any medical history.
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  Speaker 3: Tina was afraid for her baby's life. She hadn't spoken
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  Speaker 3: to Neil in mines, but she had kept in touch
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  Speaker 3: with one of his friends, and she reached out to him.
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  Speaker 1: I suddenly get these long, nasty texts, how dare I
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  Speaker 1: contact his friend and that he would not be giving
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  Speaker 1: any medical history. Luckily, the next level of lights did work.
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  Speaker 1: After a week in hospital, we were able to go home.
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  Speaker 3: Tina and the baby are settling in nicely at home,
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  Speaker 3: but she can't let go of how Neil conducted himself,
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  Speaker 3: So she decides to take action against him.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I'm going to set the Child Maintenance Service
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  Speaker 1: onto you for the next eighteen years, not because I
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  Speaker 1: want the money, but because you deserve it, because you're
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  Speaker 1: not a nice person.
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  Speaker 3: Tina submitted an application to the Child Maintenance Service, which
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  Speaker 3: is the UK's agency for child support.
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  Speaker 1: When the report came through, it said that he had
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  Speaker 1: been assessed five pounds a week because he was a
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  Speaker 1: benefits recipient. But then the next really alarming thing was
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  Speaker 1: that that five pounds a week was split between four children.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing I did was go to Facebook and
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  Speaker 1: I look up Nil's last name Lorman. Straight Away upcomes
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  Speaker 1: a profile. I thought, well, this must be his ex wife,
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  Speaker 1: and on the profile was a picture of two young
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  Speaker 1: girls and they looked like Fifi. I thought, did I
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  Speaker 1: write to her? So I did and said I've just
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  Speaker 1: had a baby and the father is Neil Norman. And
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  Speaker 1: quite quickly she got back to me. The first line
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  Speaker 1: was just I am so sorry that you have also
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  Speaker 1: been his victim. I'm like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Neil's ex wife tells Tina that they've never lived in
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  Speaker 3: the United States. He's definitely the father of her two
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  Speaker 3: kids and he has never once mentioned having cancer.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, I realized that he had impregnated me maliciously.
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  Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing. There is absolutely justice
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be served against Neil. I didn't consent
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  Speaker 1: to be with a fertile man.
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  Speaker 4: To find out what happens, watch the series Betrayal, Secrets
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  Speaker 4: and Lies, premiering right here on ABC this Sunday, and
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  Speaker 4: then available on Hulu and Disney Plus