Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Dr. Ria Paul, Clinical Associate Professor, Stanford University School of Medicine; Chief Medical Officer, Santa Clara Family Health Plan
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- 0:32Hi, everyone. This is Erica Carbajal with Becker's
- 0:35Hospital Review. Thank you so much for joining
- 0:37us for this episode of the Becker's Healthcare
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- 0:41Today, we're joined by doctor Rhea Paul,
- 0:44clinical associate professor at Stanford University School of
- 0:47Medicine and chief medical officer of Santa Clara
- 0:51Family Health Plan. Doctor Paul, happy New Year.
- 0:54Honored to have you on today.
- 0:56Thank you, Erica,
- 0:57and happy new year to you as well.
- 1:00Yeah. Hard to believe we're in 2026.
- 1:02Well,
- 1:03doctor Paul, would you start here by sharing
- 1:06a little bit about your background in health
- 1:08care and your role today?
- 1:10Absolutely.
- 1:12So,
- 1:13as you mentioned,
- 1:15I'm doctor Ria Paul. I'm an internist geriatrician.
- 1:19I'm a practicing faculty at Stanford University School
- 1:22of Medicine,
- 1:23and I'm also the chief medical officer of
- 1:26Santa Clara Family Health Plan. A little bit
- 1:28about Santa Clara Family Health Plan. Santa Clara
- 1:31Family Health Plan is the largest managed care
- 1:33plan of Santa Clara County in in California.
- 1:38We provide health care services to around 350,000
- 1:42members in Santa Clara County, which is about
- 1:4515%
- 1:46of the population of Santa Clara County
- 1:49through our two lines of business. One is
- 1:51our Medicaid line of business,
- 1:53and another one is our dual eligible
- 1:56or D SNP or Medicare Advantage line of
- 1:59business.
- 2:00And D SNP, many folks don't know, so
- 2:03that's why I mentioned it is a Medicare
- 2:06Advantage Plan by CMS. So we have two
- 2:08product lines.
- 2:09One is, Medicaid,
- 2:11and one is,
- 2:14Medicare Advantage.
- 2:15And, we work very closely with our county
- 2:18health and hospital system. 50%
- 2:21of our membership
- 2:22are with Santa Clara County health and hospital
- 2:25system,
- 2:25and the other 50%
- 2:27is with other
- 2:29IPAs,
- 2:30medical groups.
- 2:31And,
- 2:32we provide holistic care, not only physical care,
- 2:36but also
- 2:37mental health and,
- 2:39other services
- 2:41through our CalAIM,
- 2:43resources through DHCS
- 2:45from California
- 2:46State.
- 2:48Alright. Thanks, doctor Paul. Helpful to hear that
- 2:50overview
- 2:51overview there
- 2:52and imagine
- 2:53a a lot you're accountable
- 2:55for there, covering 15%
- 2:57of Santa Clara County as you mentioned.
- 3:00Can you share what
- 3:02the most important
- 3:03initiative is that you've led in the past
- 3:05year? Tell us a bit about what that
- 3:07was and what the results some of the
- 3:10results that you're seeing now in early twenty
- 3:11twenty six.
- 3:13Mhmm.
- 3:14That's a very good question.
- 3:15So last year, one of the major initiatives
- 3:19for us was to improve our
- 3:22our
- 3:23quality improvement
- 3:25scores for
- 3:26both for our line of business from Medicaid
- 3:29and our dual eligible or Medicare Advantage.
- 3:32As you know, for a health plan, our
- 3:34North Star is always our quality ratings because
- 3:38that's how we are perceived by,
- 3:42by ourselves and by others, how good of
- 3:44a care we are providing
- 3:46our members.
- 3:47So we focused heavily
- 3:49on our improvement of our quality ratings,
- 3:53like I said, for both of our line
- 3:55of businesses,
- 3:56Medicaid
- 3:56and,
- 3:57Medicare Advantage.
- 3:59And few things that we did,
- 4:01intent
- 4:02very deliberately
- 4:04is,
- 4:05focusing
- 4:06on the metrics, the specification of metrics,
- 4:09focusing on how the data is flowing from
- 4:12the various medical groups to the health plan.
- 4:15And also, at the same time, doing
- 4:19real time report outs to the medical groups,
- 4:22having,
- 4:24conversations with the medical group on a regular
- 4:27basis,
- 4:28making sure that they are aware of what
- 4:30their opportunities,
- 4:32what are their successes are, sharing best practices,
- 4:35evidence based guidelines,
- 4:37and also,
- 4:39at the same time, trying to see where
- 4:42we can help the medical groups because at
- 4:43the same because it is a collaborative effort
- 4:47that we feel
- 4:48is between a health plan and the care
- 4:51delivery side. So for example, that, when we
- 4:54identified that some medical groups
- 4:57had, some resource issues like,
- 5:00the smaller medical groups needed a medical assistant
- 5:03or a or,
- 5:05coordinator
- 5:06to call patients for their appointments
- 5:09or their care coordination.
- 5:10So we actually provided resources
- 5:13for that and, which we really helped.
- 5:17We saw that it really helped the medical
- 5:19group's long term results.
- 5:21And, another thing that we did was,
- 5:24focusing on
- 5:26incentives.
- 5:27So not only on patient or member incentives,
- 5:30but also on provider incentives.
- 5:32The patient incentives,
- 5:35we deliberately
- 5:36selected measures that we felt was
- 5:39tougher
- 5:40to get done, for example, cervical cancer screening,
- 5:43for some immunizations,
- 5:46for, annual wellness visit, for our Medicare population.
- 5:50So we provided,
- 5:52member incentives.
- 5:54And
- 5:55at the same time, we provided,
- 5:57incentives to our physician groups as well to
- 6:00help them navigate
- 6:02their their,
- 6:04whatever their
- 6:06day was because we'd all know that annual
- 6:09wellness visits take a longer time. So we
- 6:11wanted our our providers to do the annual
- 6:15wellness visits. But since it's a half an
- 6:17hour appointment,
- 6:18we try to incentivize the providers,
- 6:21to to do so.
- 6:23And, that's why we we saw that the
- 6:25incentives really, really help the provider.
- 6:28And at the end of the day, we
- 6:30definitely saw these all
- 6:32helped our ratings for our medic Medicaid,
- 6:36ratings. We we improved on all of our
- 6:39measures,
- 6:40all of our HEDIS measures. And for our
- 6:43Medicare Advantage or D SNP star ratings, we
- 6:46actually
- 6:47improved as well. As you know, D SNP
- 6:49is a very tougher form of Medicare Advantage
- 6:53because the patients here are frail, elderly,
- 6:56and have multiple comorbid
- 6:58conditions.
- 6:59So,
- 7:00improvement
- 7:01of a star rating here in DSNF
- 7:04is it's actually
- 7:06a monumental effort, and kudos to our quality
- 7:09team at the health plan to do so.
- 7:11So we went from a three star rating
- 7:13to a 3.5 star rating, which we consider
- 7:17is, was was a huge win for us.
- 7:19And our pharmacy star rating was actually four
- 7:22star, so we were very impressed by that.
- 7:26Yeah. Doctor Paul, congrats on those quality rating
- 7:29improvements. I know that's no small feat and
- 7:31certainly a lot of intentional coordinated work that
- 7:34went into that. I love what you mentioned
- 7:37as well just about
- 7:39the coordination and the partnership and the resources
- 7:41that you were providing to medical groups. I
- 7:43think it's such a great example of
- 7:46what that that collaboration actually looks like in
- 7:49practice because we hear a lot lot about
- 7:51that. And I know folks are interested in,
- 7:53like, what does that act actually look like?
- 7:54How does that happen in terms of the
- 7:56relationship between health plans and providers?
- 7:59When you mentioned the incentives
- 8:01for patients and providers on the screening side
- 8:04and then both on the annual wellness visit
- 8:07side for physicians,
- 8:08can you share an example of what those
- 8:11incentives
- 8:12look like either for patients or providers?
- 8:15Yes. These are all monetary incentives. So, every
- 8:19year, beginning of the year,
- 8:21we we have,
- 8:24we develop our incentive program. Usually, we replicate
- 8:28the incentive program from the year prior, but
- 8:31we always look at,
- 8:33the where our opportunities
- 8:35are and, then go ahead and select those
- 8:39metrics that we feel
- 8:41need an extra push both from the member
- 8:44side and both from the provider side. And
- 8:47that's how we select the metrics and
- 8:50how much,
- 8:51monetary,
- 8:53weightage we put on the particular metric also
- 8:56depends,
- 8:57what the what it was the year prior
- 9:01and, then decide whether to continue with the
- 9:04same
- 9:05same monetary met
- 9:07monetary weighted for this year or should we
- 9:11go up
- 9:13this year as well? Another thing that we
- 9:15do is that if we see that we
- 9:18are
- 9:19doing very good on a particular measure, we
- 9:22will kind of take away the incentive on
- 9:25that measure because then we know that the
- 9:28patients and the providers have become very well
- 9:31versed with that metric and that has become
- 9:35a very
- 9:36it has become a very process oriented metric
- 9:39for the for the provider.
- 9:41So we will then take away the metric
- 9:43and then select a new metric,
- 9:46which needs more focus.
- 9:47And so, again, metrics we select
- 9:50on a yearly basis. And also the monetary
- 9:53weightage, also we adjust on a yearly basis
- 9:57as well.
- 9:58Yeah. No. That makes sense just based on
- 10:00really how how much
- 10:03improvements are happening in certain areas and where
- 10:05there are areas that still need that extra
- 10:07push.
- 10:08Well, doctor Paul, looking ahead, what are some
- 10:11of the biggest priorities and headwinds that you're
- 10:14focused on and and have on your radar
- 10:17in 2026?
- 10:18Mhmm.
- 10:20Again, that is a very important question and
- 10:23very timely because we are just starting the
- 10:25year off.
- 10:26Definitely, we want to build on our gains
- 10:30from 2025,
- 10:31whatever we have built, done
- 10:34in, in 2025
- 10:36in terms of our quality improvement. We want
- 10:38to sustain and enhance on that.
- 10:41At the same time, there has been a
- 10:43lot of regulatory changes coming
- 10:46down to us for our Medicaid line of
- 10:48product from DHCS,
- 10:50DMHC,
- 10:51and from CMS for our dual eligible line
- 10:54of product.
- 10:56So,
- 10:57we we have to align with that, And
- 10:59so we are we are very, very, very
- 11:03diligent
- 11:04in following up on these,
- 11:06regulatory requirements, aligning with those.
- 11:09And,
- 11:10the headwinds,
- 11:12definitely for our Medicaid lineup product, as you
- 11:16know, with HR one, there are a lot
- 11:19of changes happening in the Medicaid arena. Some
- 11:23are starting in 2026
- 11:25and some 2027,
- 11:27for example,
- 11:28the redeterminations,
- 11:31also the work requirement, and so forth. So
- 11:34all of these
- 11:36that we we were not really focusing on
- 11:39before,
- 11:41we
- 11:41are making changes
- 11:43in our workflows
- 11:45in making sure how we
- 11:47how are we are in alignment with all
- 11:50of these requirements
- 11:51and also educating our members accordingly,
- 11:55helping our members through all these processes,
- 11:58offering determinations,
- 12:00work eligibility
- 12:01because we want to make sure our members
- 12:03are retaining the coverage
- 12:05because that is
- 12:07our
- 12:08priority at this time that our members
- 12:11retain their coverage
- 12:13and are continuing to receive the high quality
- 12:16care that they deserve.
- 12:18Yeah. Absolutely. And it's there's so many changes
- 12:21coming ahead, and it sounds like the health
- 12:23plan is sort of looking at them in
- 12:24phases and prioritizing that way of what's happening,
- 12:27what's gonna start being put into place in
- 12:282026, what's gonna start be put into place
- 12:31in 2027,
- 12:32and,
- 12:34working on it in that way. Has the
- 12:36health plan already started
- 12:38really shoring up and getting proactive about the
- 12:41patient education and the outreach there?
- 12:44Absolutely.
- 12:46We are,
- 12:47we are
- 12:48going all out and educating our members regarding
- 12:51the changes that is coming down at the
- 12:53pipeline.
- 12:54At the end of the day, we don't
- 12:56want to scare our members, but at but
- 12:59also we don't want
- 13:01to have our heads buried in the sand
- 13:03as well.
- 13:04So we are being very proactive. We we
- 13:07have developed teams
- 13:08in,
- 13:09for not only the education part, but also
- 13:12how to
- 13:14roll out the strategies
- 13:15for to help our members
- 13:17with redeterminations,
- 13:19the work eligibility,
- 13:21or even educating them
- 13:23with any of the changes that is coming
- 13:25down in terms of co pay, benefits,
- 13:28and things like that.
- 13:31Yeah. Thanks, doctor Paul.
- 13:33Where do you see some of the best
- 13:35opportunities
- 13:36for organizational
- 13:37growth in the year ahead?
- 13:40Well, again, that is very exciting for me,
- 13:43I feel, because, again,
- 13:46for me,
- 13:47in my previous role as a CMO of
- 13:50the Stanford Health Plans, I've worked very closely
- 13:53with,
- 13:55with the care delivery side, and I saw
- 13:58how how important it is for a health
- 14:00plan to work
- 14:02in tandem with the care delivery side and
- 14:04not in silos.
- 14:06And that is what I'm focusing here in
- 14:08the managed care the Spanish care plan at
- 14:10Santa Clara Family Health Plan that working in
- 14:14very close collaboration with the care delivery side,
- 14:17focusing not only in the out on the
- 14:20outpatient side, but also on the inpatient side.
- 14:24For example,
- 14:25we I have set up processes where,
- 14:28our
- 14:28nurses are actually in the hospitals,
- 14:31and then they are working closely with the
- 14:34discharge nurses in the hospital,
- 14:37which really helps
- 14:38reduce length of stay, readmissions, and so forth.
- 14:41And also our care managers
- 14:44are, on the helpline side are working very
- 14:46closely with the,
- 14:48with the,
- 14:50with our providers
- 14:51on the ambulatory side to help them in
- 14:54various,
- 14:56scheduling appointments, getting DMEs,
- 14:58home health, and so forth. So there is
- 15:01a lot of collaboration
- 15:03between the between the health plan and the
- 15:07care delivery side on multiple,
- 15:10angles.
- 15:11And,
- 15:12and I that's what I see that that
- 15:14is how we can have a better outcome
- 15:18for our patients.
- 15:19Another thing that looking at, and we have
- 15:22started slowly,
- 15:24is,
- 15:25integration
- 15:25of AI
- 15:27in our member engagement.
- 15:29And because,
- 15:31I do feel that gone are the days
- 15:33where a member wants to be on the
- 15:35phone for the longest time,
- 15:37and, so they do want instant,
- 15:40information.
- 15:41And that is the most efficient way
- 15:44of engaging a member instead of them being
- 15:47on the phone for five, ten, or fifteen
- 15:49minutes. So in, so
- 15:52using AI platforms, AI chatbots
- 15:55on how to
- 15:56engage our members and,
- 15:59getting them answers for what they need. And
- 16:02if there are escalations, then it can be
- 16:05escalated to a live person.
- 16:07But,
- 16:09giving them more instantaneous
- 16:11information can be very helpful.
- 16:13And, that's where looking at how AI platforms
- 16:17can help us in this area.
- 16:19We are very seriously looking into that, and
- 16:22we'll probably roll out something in the net
- 16:25in this year or so.
- 16:27Yeah. A lot to look forward to, and
- 16:29I think so many great points, which you
- 16:31mentioned about collaboration and really focusing on that.
- 16:34It really sounds like for that to be
- 16:36effective between
- 16:38health plans and and providers, it really has
- 16:40to be on the ground partnerships
- 16:42and support, as you mentioned, with have having
- 16:45nurses even work in tandem.
- 16:48And lots to look forward to on the
- 16:49AI side as well with member engagement.
- 16:52Doctor Paul, thank you so much for your
- 16:53time today. It's a pleasure to have you
- 16:55on the podcast.
- 16:56Oh, thank you so much, Erica.