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Unsigned518 - Episode 148 - Before the Warning · Unsigned518

• 0:01
  Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73 he loves far Cry music the fight is a thirsty jabbing in the dazzle jazz it's motherfucking Andy scolding look at motherfucker. Cause here he comes Andy calling for wearing his orange hat.
• 0:27
  Speaker B: Welcome to Untied518. I'm here with Brian and Jeff of before the Warning. And you know Brian, we actually met last night. My band had a gig and, you know, and I do apologize if people can hear my fucking voice or lack thereof, because I blew my voice out last night pretty, pretty solidly. But yeah, and Brian came up and was like, hey, you know, I'm Brian. And I was like, oh, wait, you're on the show tomorrow, right? He's like, yeah. I'm like, oh, that's fucking cool. So anyway, what we want to do, what I always do is, you know, we were talking a little bit before we got going is this is just going to be. I want to know about the band, but I also want to know about the people in the band, the story of the band, but more importantly, the way you guys want to tell it. So I don't know who wants to start, but tell me the story.
• 1:18
  Speaker C: So thank you for having us.
• 1:20
  Speaker B: Yeah, of course.
• 1:21
  Speaker C: By the way, this is really cool. So I think that our band's story starts back in April 28, 1996. The Ramones were playing a free show in Lincoln park in Albany. Washington park in Albany.
• 1:41
  Speaker D: I think it was Lincoln Park.
• 1:41
  Speaker C: It was Lincoln Park.
• 1:42
  Speaker D: I think you're right.
• 1:42
  Speaker C: Yeah, you're right. It was Linkin Park. And I went with a few friends and I was always. I had been into music. I was 14 at the time, you know, and I had been to a few, like, concerts. But this was definitely like my first, like, punk gig. Degeneration was one of the opening bands. And it was just a, you know, free concert. Lots of people there, lots and lots of fun. And of course, you know, the Ramones played and they were fantastic. And I had known Jeff prior to that day, but I don't think we ever really spoke. And I remember that day, like running into him, like, high fiving, talking a little bit and just being like, man, he's a cool dude. Like, I. So, you know, that was like really special moment. Got to meet Jeff for the first time and, you know, but I knew about him. I knew about. He was in a ska band at the time called the Conspirators, who I knew and had seen play before. Before. And I just, you know, he was kind of known in our high school as, like, one of the, you know, best guitar players in the school. And I remember kind of thinking, like, man, it'd be cool playing a band with that guy someday. So that was like, one really cool thing that happened that day. And I also met a girl. I can't remember her name now, but I definitely, like, you know, had a nice conversation and was crushing on her big time. And maybe two months after the Ramones concert ran into her. And when I ran into her, I went home and I wrote my first song. And the first song I wrote was a song called B4. And it was basically like, you know, about the Ramones show and meeting this girl. And the chorus was like, you know, does she recognize me? I don't know, but I met her before at a punk rock show. Should I talk to her? Just ignore my feelings for her. When I saw her before, that was like, first time really sitting down and writing a song, you know. So between seeing the Ramones writing this song, I was, like, hooked. I was really, like, just, you know, loving the whole punk scene and music and just, like, couldn't get enough of it. And I was definitely, like, prior to this, you know, time, like in ninth grade and stuff, I was sort of a weird kid. I hadn't really found my place in, you know, the world, you could say. You know, I was. I was into music. I was into stuff like, you know, sci fi, Star wars and things like that.
• 4:32
  Speaker D: And we were punk rock kids in the 90s, right?
• 4:34
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 4:34
  Speaker B: I mean, I was a punk rock kid in, like, kind of like the 80s because I'm fucking old. But, you know, same thing. I relate. And there's no normal people in punk rock. You know what I mean? Like, no punk rock story comes from. Well, you know, I was just a normal every. You know, it's always like, something different. And that's what gives you that. You know, that's what gives you that thing.
• 4:54
  Speaker D: Get addicted to the fringes.
• 4:55
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And hopefully never look back.
• 4:58
  Speaker C: No, I mean, it definitely, you know, like I said, you know, when you tell people, like, yeah, the first punk show I went to was the Ramones, People are like, yeah, it's. You know, it's kind of sets a high bar.
• 5:08
  Speaker B: Right.
• 5:09
  Speaker D: And the last time they played in Albany, too, if memory serves.
• 5:12
  Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I think you're right.
• 5:14
  Speaker B: And one of. I mean, one of the last times they played at all. At all. Yeah.
• 5:19
  Speaker C: So, you know, I had written this song and I had been just geeking out on, you know, different Punk bands. And.
• 5:28
  Speaker B: And so when you say you had written this, like, were you playing guitar and writing the lyrics? So, like, you were, like, playing and singing and, like, playing guitar.
• 5:36
  Speaker C: Wrote. Wrote the lyrics, wrote the guitar parts and everything.
• 5:39
  Speaker B: It's still just, like, on your own in your bedroom.
• 5:41
  Speaker C: Totally on my own. I had no band at the time. There was no, like, you know, that was just, like, my first sort of, like, attempt to, like, write a song.
• 5:48
  Speaker D: And I will say Bri is incredibly musical and was raised in a very musical household. His shout out to Willie the Moke, his dad, phenomenal drummer. He grew up in a house with a drum set, and he had music around. So Bri was. I think he's being a little bit modest with how good of a musician he was from an early age. So I just wanted to interject with that.
• 6:12
  Speaker C: I appreciate that, Jeff, but I had never really done, like, the lessons and stuff like that. Like, I was not. I had the drive, but I didn't have, you know, any real, like, skills or anything.
• 6:26
  Speaker B: But, you know, like, they say, like, to be good at something, like, you have to be, you know, to be, like, the competent professional, you have to be the foolish amateur. And I almost. Almost feel a little bit like lessons and too much tutelage in the beginning could fuck with that. Absolutely. To me, I'm like, grab what you want to do, do what you want to do, struggle through it, then learn the proper techniques and meld it with what you've got is how I. You know, probably because I also didn't take lessons.
• 6:57
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, that was so Foolish Amateur is a good lead into. So there were these three guys in our school. They were seniors. I was in 10th grade at the time. Kernan, Ty, Owen, Sherwood, Micah Belgiano. They were like the coolest kids that we went to school with. Like, they were all into punk music as well. And really, you know, dressed the part, knew their stuff, and were just like. I mean, they were like.
• 7:25
  Speaker D: They were punk. Punk dudes.
• 7:27
  Speaker C: They were punk dudes. And one day it was like a study hall or something. They kind of came up to me. I had, like, a Black Flag sweatshirt on or something like that. And they like, hey, you know anyone who plays drums? We're trying to find a drummer for a band. I was like, oh, yeah, I play drums. Never played drums at this point, but I was just like, this is my end, man. This is, like, my chance to, you know, do. Do a cool band with some really cool guys. So I went home and for just, like, three weeks, did nothing but Drum as much as I could to whatever I could, you know, blast in my room, you know, tried to get good. And then, you know, in a few weeks after that, we ended up doing a practice or whatever. And I was still not great. But, you know, I. I just wanted to do it so badly that it was like, I'm just gonna figure this out. And eventually, you know, we started to put songs together. They had written a bunch of songs I had written before, and, you know, we started playing that in our practices and I started writing other songs. And we went on to eventually start doing shows. And ironically, the first show we did at QE2 was with trauma School Dropouts and Marky Ramone and the Intruders.
• 8:43
  Speaker B: No way.
• 8:43
  Speaker C: Yeah. So this was the benefits of playing in a band with Kernan. Ty was he not only knew everything about punk rock, he knew like, lots of people. He was good friends with Trom School Dropouts. He was good friends with band called the Miserables. Like just different, like bands in the scene at the time, you know, the people that own QE2, I think he knew them. So he got a shows.
• 9:04
  Speaker D: No problem was he was super charismatic. Everybody in the scene liked him. Yeah, he was just an all around awesome, awesome guy.
• 9:13
  Speaker C: Yeah. So we, you know, so. So we're setting up for this first gig and we're the first band playing and everything. And I'm setting up my dad's. My dad's Ludwig 1970s jazz drum kit, which was a much, much nicer kit than I think I realized at the time. And from behind me comes Marky Rowan. He's like, hey, that's a nice drum kit.
• 9:39
  Speaker B: That's like a long way, you know.
• 9:41
  Speaker C: I was like, yeah.
• 9:42
  Speaker B: He's like, that's a fellas impression, man. I like that.
• 9:45
  Speaker C: I'll never forget this moment. I mean. So, you know, I mean. And again, the rest of the show was great and, you know, but having that sort of thing happening and it was like. Came full circle, right? Like, I just like a year prior was like seeing the Ramones and then there we are playing a show with one of the guys. It was just. This is cool. So I was like, hooked, man. And, you know, four minute warning. We played some really, really cool shows. We got really close with Trauma School Dropouts. They totally took us under their wing. And we played QE2 all the time, played Bogeys, Saratoga winners, all the places at the time that were sort of up and coming. We also play. It's funny because mentioned the show last night that we went to that your band was playing at, which was the album release for the Jagaloons. And I knew Kurt from Jagaloons from his band Disenchanted, because we used to do shows with them all the time, too. Yeah. Two favorite bands at the time were definitely Trauma School and Disenchanted. And they were sort of instrumental in two different parts of the punk scene for us, where it was like the QE2 and bogeys and sort of the club scene that was happening. And then also, like, the DIY scene. Like, with Disenchanted, I think we played Legion halls and, like, skate parks, you know, it was all very, like, by the bands for the bands, total DIY style. So it was cool having, like, a little bit of both those things happening.
• 11:19
  Speaker D: It's hard to not be romantic about the DIY scene.
• 11:22
  Speaker C: That's true.
• 11:22
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 11:23
  Speaker D: It's hard to not look back at how well produced they were for the time, how organized a lot of them were. I don't know. It's hard to not look back at that time and be like, man, DIY shows, right?
• 11:43
  Speaker B: And, I mean, there is, like, a fairly strong DIY scene happening now. Like, you know, house shows and house venues and I mean, even, like, basement shows. There's. Yeah. And like, they, you know, name them. They have, like, Nate, you know, this is the name of this. And it's treated like a fucking real venue, you know, real tickets and, like, dude's basement. And there's a huge scene happening, like, right now.
• 12:09
  Speaker C: So anyway, so Four Minute Warning, you know, we had a really solid year. And the only downfall to the whole situation was they were all seniors. I was in 10th grade. They were all going to college once that year was over. So it was time to start a new band. And again, I knew Jeff. I knew of the conspirators we had at this point from that year that I started playing Informant Warring, gotten way closer, did some shows together and everything. And, you know, I always had him sort of in the back of my mind, like, that's the guy I want to be in a band with. So once Four Minute Warning kind of broke up, I got in touch with Jeff and said, do you want to start something? And we started a band called the Riff Raffs. And that was sort of ska punk. I mean, very similar overall. Like, same kind of thing, but definitely brought in some of the ska influence that Jeff had going.
• 13:02
  Speaker D: I remember those early days of us getting together and discussing the sound and listening to music together like they were absolutely yesterday.
• 13:09
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 13:10
  Speaker D: Like, I remember listening to. I Turned into a Martian with you for the first time.
• 13:15
  Speaker B: Like.
• 13:15
  Speaker D: Like it was yesterday.
• 13:16
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were. It was. I mean, those. Those two years were. Were something special for sure, because. So. So basically the Riff Raffs were a band for a year's time. Again, similar situation where. Played out a lot, you know, had a really strong year, really impactful, and then everybody kind of was going to college and things like that. So, you know, I ended up not. I was. I still had one more year of high school, but then after that, I moved to the city to study filmmaking. And, you know, kind of had been a while. I did eventually, like, I got in touch with Jeff and we started hanging out again, and that was great. And we continued to play music together whenever we could, however we could.
• 14:07
  Speaker D: That was around, like, 2005. Yeah, yeah, I was 25, and you would have been 24.
• 14:12
  Speaker C: Yeah. So. But, you know, we had that distance thing, right. He was living in Vermont and I was living in Brooklyn, and, you know, we'd get together every once in a while, and then we'd go like six months to a year, sometimes more, and then we eventually get together and hang out. Well, I moved back to this area about three years ago, and he moved to the Burnt Hills area right around the same time, which was pretty cool and unexpected. And then we were at one of the, you know, Trauma School had been doing this reunion show every summer, and so we were at the one two years ago, and Micah Belgiano, who was in form and oring was at that show, and the three of us got talking. I was like, we should just, like, get together and start revisiting some of those old songs. We'll do some form of warning songs. We'll do some riffraff songs, and let's try to, like, get our stuff together so that, you know, we can do the next year, you know, Trauma School reunion show, which we did, and it was awesome. And basically, you know, once that was done, we were like, okay, well, now we've got to go and record these songs because we never really had solid, great recordings of this material.
• 15:35
  Speaker B: Right.
• 15:36
  Speaker C: And before I go any further, I have to, of course, also mention Matt, our drummer, Matt Lafleur, who was the drummer for the Riff Raffs. And again, just a buddy of ours from high school we stayed in touch with.
• 15:46
  Speaker D: And when we did get together and play often, he would get together as well. So we. We all stayed in touch and we all kept playing music together as often as we could.
• 15:56
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And, you know, so we. We. We ended up Going and we did a little research and went to Don Fury's studio in Troy and we recorded five riff raff songs and five format warning songs and you know, it was just, it was a pretty amazing experience because I don't think any of us had ever done any kind of like recording like that before. We've all dabbled in, you know, home studio recordings and like multi tracking, but this was like multi tracking and everything and you know, and it was, I mean, for people that don't know, Don Fury was sort of a legendary, you know, New York hardcore engineer. He did, you know, Agnostic Fronts, United Blood and worked with Sick of It all. Like all the, A lot of the early New York hardcore bands, Shelter you today.
• 16:50
  Speaker B: And I've heard nothing but good, good things about like, the way he runs that studio. Like everybody who's come through this room that is recorded there have just been like, dude, it's fucking amazing.
• 17:01
  Speaker D: He was awesome to work with. Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker C: Yeah, he's definitely like, you know, a true pro, total pro. Can dial in the tones on like, you know, all the different drums and the guitar and like, you know, knows.
• 17:15
  Speaker D: What you want before you want it sort of thing.
• 17:18
  Speaker C: Yeah. So now we have this album and we're putting the album out next week. Comes out on Friday, November 15th.
• 17:28
  Speaker B: I'm actually holding a copy in my hand, a physical copy in my hand. One of the first ones, right?
• 17:33
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. That you are literally the first person to get a copy of this.
• 17:37
  Speaker B: Sweet.
• 17:37
  Speaker C: So, yeah, we're. We're putting it out with Cacophone Records, which is a record label that Shout Out. Yeah, great, great label. I've known about for a while and Trauma School has been on that label for a while. And just a lot of bands, I mean, all my favorite bands when I was, you know, young and playing out all the time in the scene. Rocky Velvet who? You know, two of the guys from Sound Minds, Ian and Graham.
• 18:00
  Speaker B: Yeah, Grandma. I was just going to say, like, I saw Graham last night.
• 18:03
  Speaker C: Yep. Yeah, those guys, I've been friends with those guys a long time. They actually, they were my wedding band. Like, I, you know, loved Rocky Velvet back in the day.
• 18:13
  Speaker B: I used to catch them a bunch in Troy when I first moved.
• 18:15
  Speaker C: They were great. They were great. And, and Sound Minds are great, you know, and Trauma School of course was on Cacophone and the Erotics and just a lot of bands, I mean, they had like, I remember a little like sampler CD that had like all these different bands that were either on the label or just friends of theirs. And I remember like discovering all these cool bands from that, like Super 400 Turbo.
• 18:41
  Speaker D: I was just listening to them in the car on the way here.
• 18:43
  Speaker C: It was, you know, they were always a cool, really cool label. And so the fact that we're putting out the album on that label is pretty special to me. And yeah, I'm psyched. So now I guess, you know, before the warning is really becoming its own thing. It kind of started as like a let's do this one off reunion show and now we're like, you know, we're, we're all having so much fun, see.
• 19:08
  Speaker D: What we can do with it.
• 19:09
  Speaker C: Yeah, we're going to start writing. We've been sort of writing new stuff and we'll eventually, you know, try to do a new album. But this album's cool because it's stuff we wrote when we were like I was 15, 16, you know, we were all in high school. I mean it's definitely got that like vibe to it. It's all like, it sounds like it was written by teenagers. You know, some of the lyrics are a little juvenile, but we stayed true to it. We're all like, I'm not going to change anything. You know, we're going to go with what was written.
• 19:39
  Speaker D: And I will say we, in talking about the songs that we were going to cover for the show, there were, you know, we were 14, 15 year old kids in the 90s and we had to make conscious decisions about a couple songs and be like, you know what? Nah, didn't age well.
• 19:59
  Speaker B: Right?
• 20:00
  Speaker D: Didn't age well. Let's, let's, let's put that with, you.
• 20:02
  Speaker B: Know, like makes me think like when you're saying like descendants. Yeah. Like not a loser.
• 20:08
  Speaker D: Right.
• 20:08
  Speaker B: Like that was written when they were like 15 years old and they made a conscious decision a long time ago. They're like, we're not fucking touching that song. Yeah, like they say some vile in that song. And they were like, we're sorry. We were kids.
• 20:22
  Speaker D: Yeah, we're, you know, it was a really cool conversation. It was over text but I, we, I don't know, it was, it was a cool sort of almost sort of a healing conversation and like a growing up conversation we all had to get. It was, I don't know it. I appreciate being in our 40s at this point and being able to play along a long game with music like plan a full year before we play our first show. And we're all, by that point we'll already be well practiced enough to go into the studio. So we have that, you know, 40s, patience and all that. But we're playing songs we wrote when we were 15, so, like, we're kind. I don't know, it keeps us young while we're executing it like adults.
• 21:06
  Speaker B: Right. That's a great way to look at it. So do we want to hear a song?
• 21:10
  Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:12
  Speaker B: Which one do you want to play first?
• 21:13
  Speaker C: Well, since we were talking about B4, we got to do B4. It's the first song I ever wrote and.
• 21:20
  Speaker B: About a girl whose name you can't.
• 21:21
  Speaker C: Remember About a girl can't remember the name we'll never forget the face but you know what was interesting about that song was it was played in both form and warning and Riff raffs. We were initially going to call the band before because that was sort of the common thread. But there's like a million bands out there called B4. And I was like, let's try to come up with something that's kind of unique that we can make that's ours. And so we came up with the idea before the warning.
• 21:53
  Speaker B: All right, well, cool. Well, let's listen to before, before the warning, and then we'll be right back with Ryan and John.
• 21:59
  Speaker A: We were walking downtown Taking it slow Just two punk rockets with no pleasure of my eyes she gave me a look as I walked by she recognized it I don't know I met her before and I won't watch her Should I talk to her? But just to know how it feels for her When I saw before what?
• 22:20
  Speaker C: Saw before.
• 22:24
  Speaker D: What?
• 22:24
  Speaker A: Saw her before oh don't even know if she remembers my name and even if she does Would it be the same when she tell me I want me to say I wouldn't have it any other way does she recognize me? I don't know But I'm out of the front of P show Should I talk to her? Just ignore my feelings for her When I saw her before When I saw her before I saw her before did she recognize it? I don't know But I met her before and I sure should have talked to her Just to know my feels for her When I saw her before does she recognize me? I don't know Will we ever be together? Well, I really hope so Should I talk to her? But just to warm up Feels for her When I saw her before.
• 23:34
  Speaker B: All right, that was B4 from before the warning. And, you know, you were saying before the warning kind of came from the song before, but is there, like, more to it or was it just kind of. It sounded clever.
• 23:47
  Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I mean, the first band was Four Minute Warning. And so I'm gonna get a little serious for a minute here. Kernan Ty, who was really the guy who got that band going. And got us all into music at the time. And really introduced us to the scene and just, like, got us going, right? Like, he was. He was, you know, the best.
• 24:12
  Speaker D: An integral member of the scene.
• 24:14
  Speaker C: He passed away two years after, you know. Right. Right. Really, when Riff Raffs were sort of coming to a close again. Not because we were, like, breaking up, because we didn't like each other. But we were just. We were graduating high school and going to colleges, you know, in different parts of the state or whatever. And, you know, when Kernan died, it was. It was definitely, you know, totally changes your perspective on everything. When somebody close to you like that. Who's young and so charismatic and so full of, like, life and energy, you realize, like, okay, you know, we spent two years playing out and having fun. And there was drinking and drugs and lots of, you know, shenanigans going on. And when that happens, you kind of realize, like, oh, wait a minute. Like, we're mortal, fragile creatures. That, you know, our time is not infinite here. You know, there is that. So it was, in its own way, kind of like a warning. And so for me, before the warning is an ode to that time before that. That time in your life where, like, you're just young, right? With your friends, having fun without a care in the world. And that's kind of what I like to try to tap into when we're playing shows or writing, you know, recording songs. And, you know, just try to, like, think back to what it was like in those two years that we were all in high school. Just having fun and. And. And, you know, just happy to be, like, around each other. And just really into music and just really into the scene. And collecting, you know, albums and just talking about music. And not thinking about, like, any of. Sort of these harsh realities that, you know, as you grow up, there's just more and more. Of course. So that's sort of the deeper meaning, I think, if there is one.
• 26:16
  Speaker D: When punk rock was fresh. When it felt like you could do anything. When anything was possible and there was no there. Just anything was possible.
• 26:27
  Speaker B: Right. And life wasn't gonna. With you.
• 26:29
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker B: Wow. That's. Yeah, that is. That is pointing.
• 26:32
  Speaker D: Well put. Well put, Brian.
• 26:34
  Speaker B: Very well put. And it's a good thing that you said you were going to get serious before I made a joke. Because I was almost going to be Like. Like a better than Ezra situation.
• 26:42
  Speaker C: No, I mean, and listen, we. You know, I, Again, literally, like, on.
• 26:47
  Speaker B: The tip of my tongue, and I was like, you're like, I'm gonna get serious. And I was like, that. I'm gonna hold my tongue.
• 26:53
  Speaker D: Yeah, I wasn't sure where he was going either, so, like, yeah, that was well played, Bry.
• 26:57
  Speaker C: I mean, this album, for real, is very much like. It's a tribute to Kernan as much as anything else. And it's, you know, dedicated to. Because, I mean, like I said, you know, I was kind of a weird kid. I didn't really have, like, a strong place in, you know, the world. I wasn't comfortable in my own skin. I was just weird. And then meeting him and getting into punk music and getting into that scene really gave me an identity. And I mean, within, you know, a year's time. Like, in the, you know, days of, like, when I was a freshman, I was kind of bullied, you know. And then a year later, after playing in a band with those guys, it's like the same people that I was like, you know, getting, like, pushed around. They were, like, high fiving me at, you know, parties. I mean, it just changed everything. And it gave me confidence and it was like, you know, I was always into movies, but, like, I really kind of, like, honed in on, like, I want to go to film school and study and try to, you know, make film someday. Like, all that kind of came out of, like, this love for punk music. I mean, even today, like, I'm a film editor, that's, like, how I make a living. And I always attribute, like, editing is all about, like, timing. And, like, if I hadn't had those early days as a drummer, like, drumming and timing and crescendos, it's all kind of related, you know?
• 28:18
  Speaker B: Absolutely. So do we want to. Before we go, do we want to hear another song off the new album?
• 28:25
  Speaker D: Sounds great.
• 28:25
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker B: Which one do we want to go with here?
• 28:28
  Speaker C: This one's called Rimshot. So this, just to give you a little quick context, before was initially a four minute warning song. Rim Shot was a riffraff song. And this was definitely a song that Jeff and I wrote together. Jeff, I think, wrote the song kind of fully.
• 28:43
  Speaker D: One of this is kind of our dynamic is I usually hit the music pretty hard and Bri hits the lyrics pretty hard. And it. Not always, but we have songs where that has been our dynamic.
• 28:57
  Speaker C: Definitely.
• 28:59
  Speaker D: I don't know, it's a way that we work well together.
• 29:02
  Speaker C: Definitely. I mean, I think when you wrote the song, if I remember correctly, it was about, you know, it was about, like, football, European football, soccer, rim shot. But I knew nothing about that. Well, I do now, but at the time didn't. And, you know, I remember we were, like, getting ready to, like, try to, you know, play the song live. And I was like, hey, I got some lyrics. But it's not really about football. It's just about, like, a guy we know. And so, you know, that's kind of how that evolved. But it's definitely. This was, I think, one of the songs that you and I wrote together for the first time. One of our first collaborations, but certainly not the last.
• 29:40
  Speaker B: All right, so let's check out Rim Shot, and I'll be right back. Wrap it up.
• 30:04
  Speaker A: Looking for trouble Sometimes it's hard to find? Cause no one ever foxes in my place as many Microsoft. Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi oi, oi, oi, oi. Back in his neighborhood that was gang upon so he talked to n His mother always told them that you better steal him he's the leader of the pack and the one the neighbor fear He's a rim shot, rip shot, rib shot, rip shot L the next will never come People think he's crazy but he's having lots of fun he's kicking around up on crotch where he's gonna end up nobody knows? Cause he's a rim shot rip shot, rim shot R.
• 31:35
  Speaker B: All right, that was Rimshots. And again, you know, thank you so much for coming out and doing this. It was really cool and a great conversation. It's fun to hear about scenes and bands that I'm from, you know, because I've obviously known trauma school dropouts for, you know, a long time. And it's cool to hear insider information of that type of scene. Because I was over in Vermont when, like, QE2 was popping off and shit, so, like, I didn't get to experience it. So I have to live vicariously connecting the dots. Yes, definitely. But before we go, like I do with all my guests, I want to give you a chance to say what I call your gratitude. So, Brian, start with you.
• 32:15
  Speaker C: Well, definitely my wife, Ashley, because she lets me do stuff like this when we have a very busy, you know, day to day. And our two kids, Miles and Kenny, they're, you know, they're the best. I love them. And I try to do stuff every day that I think my kids will think is cool because I want them to know that their dad is not just some, you know, Boring. You know, dad, he's guy who appreciates art and music and culture. I definitely want to thank Dwayne Beer from Trauma School Dropouts because like I said, that band really took us under their wings back in the day and wouldn't be here without, you know, their sort of inspiration and support. Gotta do a quick shout out to Don Fury for helping us record this album and Jeff and Kip Smith from Cacophone Records for putting it out with us. Best. Really good guys. Great record label and so psyched to be a part of it and was psyched to work with Don. And yeah, those are my shout outs for me.
• 33:25
  Speaker D: Shout out obviously to Don Fury and Jeff and Kip from Cacophone. We're tremendously humbled to work with all you folks, especially coming back to punk rock in our mid-40s. So thank you guys. That I don't know. It's been very much a privilege. Shout out to my wife, who, same as Bri, she puts up with all our shenanigans and lets me do stuff. Shout out to my kids who just shattered my wife's laptop before I came. So that's great. Shout out to my old band head first. And thanks to everybody who still listens to ska, reggae and punk rock.
• 34:02
  Speaker B: All right, so they are Brian and Jeff before the warning and make sure you check out delayed gratification. Is it available now, like on streaming and everything?
• 34:11
  Speaker C: It will be streaming this Friday, November 15th, so you'll be able to stream it in all the usual spots. Apple music and you know, Spotify or YouTube Music, that kind of stuff. And you know, we'll. We'll have physical copies at our shows and.
• 34:29
  Speaker B: Yeah, but no matter what, I still have the first physical copy.
• 34:33
  Speaker D: True story.
• 34:34
  Speaker B: Awesome. So thank you again so much guys. I really appreciate it. So they are before the warning. I am Andy scullen. This is unsigned 518 and I'll see you on the road. Unsigned 518 is produced and hosted by me, Andy Scullen. New episodes are available every week wherever you stream podcasts. If you'd like to help support the show, please like and subscribe wherever you are listening. Or you could buy me a coffee@buymeacoffee.com unsigned 518 if you would like to advertise on the show, send me an email@unsigned518mail.com and to be a guest on the show, reach out to me through Instagram at unsigned518. Take care of one another and I'll see you next week.