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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, nine oh four.
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  Speaker 2: In the nine oh four This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 2: now a guy who believes Labor Day should celebrate mothers everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: jap Chager.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour and Happy Labor Day.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in, JP Shadwick.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a busy couple hours ahead as we get
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  Speaker 3: ready for Week one in the National Football League. The
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  Speaker 3: team's back to work today. The initial fifty three man
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  Speaker 3: rosters set last week last Tuesday, Week one Jaguars at
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  Speaker 3: Colts Lucas Oil Stadium, the site that is coming Sunday
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  Speaker 3: for a one o'clock kickoff in the second hour.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep it real as.
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  Speaker 3: Always and fanatics fan questions many on x Today we'll
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  Speaker 3: hear from our Christian kirk Foyer.
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  Speaker 1: Looking. They've both spoke of the media a little earlier.
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  Speaker 1: This afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: We're on ten Xcel, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Tony
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  Speaker 3: Vasselli and Pete Prisco joining me now. Happy Labor Day, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: How are we today?
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  Speaker 4: We're good like nothing like working on Labor Day.
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  Speaker 5: Look at you complaining about working Oh my god, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, it's nothing like working on Labor Day.
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  Speaker 4: That's I have no problem with it, knowing.
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  Speaker 5: You you're getting time in a half.
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  Speaker 4: Anyways, No, come on, I'm actually in Newport Beach, California.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it looks like you look kind
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  Speaker 3: of beachy today, Tony, I must say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I came out for the uh I to work
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  Speaker 4: on the West Coast last week, and then I came
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  Speaker 4: and watched the best university in the world, the University
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  Speaker 4: of Southern California, go to war with Nevada because my
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  Speaker 4: Seenelon plays there, so watch them, And then came down
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  Speaker 4: to see my step mom in uh new Port Peach
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  Speaker 4: at that her house down here.
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  Speaker 5: So and uh, you're gonna go to Hobvier's and have
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  Speaker 5: some dinner.
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  Speaker 4: I had Pete.
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  Speaker 6: I was at Xavier's last night.
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  Speaker 5: I've been there. It's a good.
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  Speaker 4: Restaurant, outstanding, and it was Hoppin's restaurant and there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot ye. I think most of the pretty people on
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  Speaker 4: the universe are eating at Vier's on a nightly basis.
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  Speaker 4: And it was it was it was packed for Sunday night.
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  Speaker 4: I know today's Labor Day. That's probably why. But it was.
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  Speaker 4: It's great food, great atmosphere. We sat outside. It's just
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  Speaker 4: it's really cool.
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  Speaker 5: So how did the two chips you ate?
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  Speaker 4: That's well, that's the one thing. For whatever reason, I
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  Speaker 4: can still eat. The Mexican food is my favorite. And
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  Speaker 4: uh I had plenty of chips and guac, had a
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  Speaker 4: little carnitas was uh yeah, outstanding.
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  Speaker 5: It's good. That's a really good Mexican restaurant, no doubt.
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  Speaker 5: And JP they called the game this weekend. He had
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  Speaker 5: Colorado and TCU.
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  Speaker 3: My gosh, believe, back and forth all the second half
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  Speaker 3: lead changes. Dion shocking college football with a win over
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  Speaker 3: a team that went to the championship game last year.
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  Speaker 1: And they can score.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how many people they're gonna stop in
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  Speaker 3: Colorado this year, but they can score.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Tony, what do you think the over unders on
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  Speaker 5: JP screams? Was in that game?
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  Speaker 4: Peters players gonna go there? First of all, I was
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  Speaker 4: gonna say, JP, they got the one stop when it
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  Speaker 4: matter at the end of the game. It was a
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  Speaker 4: game like whoever he get one stop at the end.
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  Speaker 4: Was gonna win or whoever had the ball last. I
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  Speaker 4: was wondering, JP, did you like run out of like
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  Speaker 4: big touchdown calls?
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  Speaker 6: I mean it was such a high scoring game.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, were you like reusing like some of your
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  Speaker 4: best material by the fourth quarter?
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  Speaker 3: You know what was funny at the start of the game, right,
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  Speaker 3: TCU gets the ball first on offense and they go
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  Speaker 3: to the line. They want to play fast, so they
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  Speaker 3: go three and out in fifty seconds, and my analyst
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  Speaker 3: Derek Rackley didn't get a word in like the for
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  Speaker 3: the first four plays of the game, like nothing at.
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  Speaker 5: All, kind of like me and Tony on here on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, it's just the same what it is.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, I've heard JP call games. He's very
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  Speaker 5: good at it, at calling games. In fact, he's so
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  Speaker 5: much better at calling games than he is on here
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  Speaker 5: on Mondays.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you about Thanks. I appreciate that. I'll
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  Speaker 1: take that. Thank you, Pete.
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  Speaker 5: No, you've.
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  Speaker 4: No, he does a good job. But no, you're right
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  Speaker 4: about that, JP. When when it's going fast on radio,
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  Speaker 4: it's much different than TV because you can't talk, the
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  Speaker 4: analysts can't talk over the play, and so if it's a.
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  Speaker 4: If it's a fast paced offense, that analyst can be
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  Speaker 4: sitting there for a while. I just sit back. I
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  Speaker 4: just sit back and start eating snacks and drink coffee. Said,
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  Speaker 4: go Bay, your bad.
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  Speaker 1: Sell pretty much?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then then both teams played fast in that
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  Speaker 3: game on Saturday, So that cold beer after the game
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  Speaker 3: tastes really nice.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, initial fifty to three man roster is out on
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday afternoon. Seven wide receivers made the team.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, how close were we by the way we were?
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  Speaker 4: We did? We were close except for we didn't have.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't have the extra wide receiver, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't we'd have cooks. And how many offensive linemen
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  Speaker 4: didn't keep JP? I think they and we got hands wrong.
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  Speaker 4: They kept Cold van Landing instead of Blake Hants right,
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  Speaker 4: whereas Blake Cant's back on the he's not on.
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  Speaker 6: The roster either, is a JP.
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  Speaker 5: He's hurt.
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  Speaker 1: He's on the roster that I have in front of me.
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  Speaker 5: He is, but he's hurt. So okay, didn't get hurt.
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  Speaker 4: Wait a second, I thought Blake Cants got cut?
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  Speaker 6: Did he get re signed? Misread that?
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  Speaker 4: I thought I saw a release where he got cut,
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  Speaker 4: so I don't want to. Obviously I'm wrong. Obviously I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking at the because I'm looking at the roster at
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  Speaker 4: the on the website, I'm assuming it's it's up to date.
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  Speaker 5: So read the let's go through. We'll go through it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we got the who do we have on
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  Speaker 5: the offensive line? That we didn't we didn't have read it? JP,
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  Speaker 5: tell us who's on it?
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  Speaker 3: So we're going through it. Here, here we go with
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  Speaker 3: the offensive lineman. We've got sheriff, We've got Shatley, Van Lannon, Walker,
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  Speaker 3: Little Blake, Hants, Anton Harrison, Ben bartch Luke Fortner.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Van Lannon, we didn't have No, we didn't have
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  Speaker 5: a JP.
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  Speaker 4: Was I mistaken that they moved Hans at one point
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  Speaker 4: or I just missed it completely.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was something right around before the four
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  Speaker 1: o'clock deadline, something strange. Yeah, but I think, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: on the rush.
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  Speaker 4: Something online. Okay, he's on the rush now, because I
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  Speaker 4: remember reading online. I was shocked about the news because
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  Speaker 4: I thought for sure he was making especially the injuries. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: good Souse, that's what perfect. I want to make sure
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  Speaker 4: I'm clear there.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, only eight.
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  Speaker 5: I think he was brought back though. I think he
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  Speaker 5: was brought back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was obviously, But there's only eight pete on
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  Speaker 4: the eight offensive lineman, and so that's why they kept
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  Speaker 4: the seventh receiver. Now, the interesting thing is they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have decisions to make because Cam Robinson will come back.
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  Speaker 4: You know, do they cut an offensive lineman or they
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  Speaker 4: cut someone at another position likewide receiver.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Atlanta would be the candidate to go withdn't if
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  Speaker 5: you're going to keep eight and put him on the
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  Speaker 5: practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to keep eight, but then the other one,
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Hodges, is going to come back, will be able
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  Speaker 4: to come back after what is it four weeks jp
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  Speaker 4: short term?
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  Speaker 1: Are That's right, that's the minimum. So we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: So aside from aside from Van Lannon, we got the
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  Speaker 5: line right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, By the way, the lineman on the practice squad
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  Speaker 3: are Darryl Williams, Coy Kronk and Chandler Brewer.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, okay. And and they could always move Van Lannon
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  Speaker 5: or one of those guys to practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: If they have to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you could do that, I mean they could. They
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  Speaker 5: They must have been concerned that the seventh receiver was
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  Speaker 5: going to get claimed.
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  Speaker 4: I think the the other one we did not have
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  Speaker 4: their And I'm looking at the roster online at on
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars dot Com, Angela Angelo Blackson. They just signed him today, right,
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying we didn't have him, They just signed him.
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  Speaker 4: That's my point. We did not have him as one
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  Speaker 4: of the offensive lineman obviously, I mean defensive linements obviously
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  Speaker 4: wasn't there. And I don't think Jay, I don't think Pete.
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  Speaker 4: We Caleb Johnson, the running the lineback who was a
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  Speaker 4: special a special team's ace. That's why he made the team.
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  Speaker 5: We did not. You know, the reason Blackson's on the
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  Speaker 5: team is because of what happened with Hamilton.
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  Speaker 1: Has to be.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I think you know, because remember when
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  Speaker 4: the Hamilton news came out, everyone was pushing or it
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  Speaker 4: was the talk was that he would be ready for
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  Speaker 4: he would be ready for opening day. That was kind
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  Speaker 4: of the the impression we were given at least, and
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  Speaker 4: obviously that's a longer term injury. He still unclear exactly
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  Speaker 4: what happened because he is now an i R. That
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  Speaker 4: means four weeks without him, and that's why he had
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  Speaker 4: to go make a move there off the wire.
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  Speaker 5: And they saw Ross Blacklock today too, to the practice squad.
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  Speaker 5: The squad remember he was he was a Texans draft
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  Speaker 5: pick who I thought it was gonna be a good player.
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  Speaker 5: I had worked out for him yet. But so they
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  Speaker 5: clearly have concerns about mister Hamilton, even though he was
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  Speaker 5: in the building last week. He's in the building, remember well.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the other corner we did not have
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  Speaker 4: on the roster. I can't remember. Did we have Bontarek
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  Speaker 4: Brown May.
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  Speaker 5: We did not.
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  Speaker 1: He made it. He made it.
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  Speaker 4: He made it. So we missed about, uh three positions
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  Speaker 4: if you take away the adding of Blacks and that
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  Speaker 4: we did not know he was what was gonna happen
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  Speaker 4: there because Hamilton.
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  Speaker 5: If you knew Hamilton was going on I we would
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  Speaker 5: have had another. So technically we didn't. We missed Brown,
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  Speaker 5: and we missed the linebacker Johnson and the seventh.
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  Speaker 4: We thought they were gonna keep. We thought they'd keep
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  Speaker 4: nine offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously, yeah, like you said, Pete, it feels like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about, Hey, the seven receiver is gonna
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  Speaker 3: get claim no matter what they do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they just kept him both instead of A.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way. Jacob Harris did not get claimed.
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  Speaker 5: No, he did not.
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  Speaker 4: He's on the practice He's on the practice squad. And
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  Speaker 4: the other thing that we did not know at the
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  Speaker 4: time was Chris Claybrooks was going to be on the
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  Speaker 4: Commissioner's list.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: So he's out infinitely, right, So that changes a whole
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  Speaker 3: lot as well.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's also probably why, Well would you think they
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  Speaker 5: would have kept Claybrooks over Monterrek Brown?
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  Speaker 4: No matter what, I don't know that he's They love
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  Speaker 4: him as a gunner, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: That's where that's where his real value was, Pete, I think.
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  Speaker 4: And he can run and so if you're going to
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  Speaker 4: play a lot of man, he can run outside with guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jacob Harris is back. So look and and probably
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  Speaker 5: if you had cut the seventh receiver, he probably would
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  Speaker 5: have been back to because you know, there was no
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  Speaker 5: no guys were barely any guys were claimed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there wasn't a lot and Pete, I think the
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  Speaker 4: one we missed. The biggest miss was on us. We
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  Speaker 4: thought the six and seventh or the sixth receiver was
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  Speaker 4: coming down to Tim Jones and Harris and really Cooks
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  Speaker 4: was obviously making the team was ahead of Harris in
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  Speaker 4: that conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. And they didn't do the fourth tight end.
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  Speaker 1: They let Garrett Prince walk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was another one.
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  Speaker 5: We were surprised that we thought they keep four.
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  Speaker 6: For they kept three tight ends and they said.
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  Speaker 4: All three will be active on game day, and they
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of three tight end sets. So you know, anyone,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if if that's part of your game plan,
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  Speaker 4: which will be for Doug and uh im pressed uh
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  Speaker 4: Doug and Press Taylor the offensive coordinator, and one gets
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  Speaker 4: dinged up during the game, that takes a piece of
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  Speaker 4: your playbook out because you only have three active tight
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  Speaker 4: ends on the roster.
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  Speaker 5: And they don't. They don't, did they They didn't bring
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  Speaker 5: Prince back then, No, Yeah, he's so they could elevate
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  Speaker 5: him if they had to, But during.
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  Speaker 1: He signed with another team's practice squad.
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  Speaker 5: Right, That's what I'm saying. They don't have another tight
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  Speaker 5: end on the roster right now.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the Peterson.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Peterson, and Derek Parrish is listed as a
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  Speaker 1: tight end now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Parish tight end.
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  Speaker 5: He was a full back of linebacker. That guy played everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, he was a pass rusher at Houston Cougars. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so so they might get if they had an
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  Speaker 5: injury at tight end in the game, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: a problem.
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  Speaker 4: Then that's right, Pete, And especially if the three tight
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  Speaker 4: end is a big part of your game plan. And
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  Speaker 4: we and we saw that during We saw glimpses of
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  Speaker 4: that during the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: But it was as far as the cuts go for
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  Speaker 5: the entire team, it was an easy cut and that's
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  Speaker 5: always usually a pretty good sign to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a couple like back end of the roster,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of surprises that we got wrong. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously Listen Cooks had a great preseason and they loved him.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he's big, he's athletic, he can move.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's an interesting player, an interesting guy to
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  Speaker 4: have on your roster. And I think they just you know,
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  Speaker 4: coming in as a rookie first opportunity. I think they loved,
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  Speaker 4: you know, possibly the development of him and the fear
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  Speaker 4: that he would get picked up and they wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: able to get him on practice slow because he did
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  Speaker 4: have a good preseason and he has, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: a really interesting skill set because of his sides.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and if Hodges and well, Hodges would have been
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  Speaker 5: on the team no matter what he made it, Ventrel
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  Speaker 5: Miller might have forced him to cut Shack Quorterman.
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  Speaker 6: Don't you think I think he came.
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  Speaker 4: I think Caleb uh Johnson. No, Caleb Johnson was making
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  Speaker 4: the team no matter what. That's why I ended up
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  Speaker 4: hearing late Pete in the process that something that obviously
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  Speaker 4: you and I missed is they love of him from
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  Speaker 4: a core special teams guy. I mean, he just has
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  Speaker 4: a real a skill set that they like a lot
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  Speaker 4: in that and so I think it was it would
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  Speaker 4: have come down to Vontrell Miller or Quarterman making the
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  Speaker 4: roster at the end, and because of the injury.
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  Speaker 5: They would have kept Miller. They were not cut a
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  Speaker 5: draft pick.
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  Speaker 4: If he's health I wouldn't have thought so. And I
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  Speaker 4: think with the injury to the achilles that made it
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  Speaker 4: obviously a very easy decision for them. I think the
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  Speaker 4: biggest surprise to me is keeping eight offensive linemen and
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  Speaker 4: only keeping three tight ends.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that tells you they're concerned about that defense
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  Speaker 5: a little bit too, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: I think it has a lot to do with injuries too.
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  Speaker 4: You have the Potocosti injury. So you know, obviously he's
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be ready for the Seaton opening day, but
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  Speaker 4: at what percentage? So and then you have the Von
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  Speaker 4: Hamilton injury as well, but.
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  Speaker 5: He was in the building last week.
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  Speaker 4: We stopped saying that over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back. We got to come back.
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  Speaker 4: Guys that force that forced their hand. Yes, I think
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  Speaker 4: in a couple of positions.
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  Speaker 3: Tony will come back a little later and dig into
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  Speaker 3: that thought. I will return with a little more offensive
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  Speaker 7: That's the unique thing about the roster and the way
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  Speaker 7: the way it's constructed. Every year, you never really go
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  Speaker 7: in with a set number. I mean in your mind,
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: you might have a set number, and sometimes you know
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  Speaker 7: you're gonna go heavy to position, you'll go light at
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  Speaker 7: another one, you know, or or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 5: So it's just a it's just how.
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  Speaker 7: It worked out this year, you know, and and we're
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  Speaker 7: excited for the seven that we have and obviously depth
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  Speaker 7: there and a couple on practice squad too.
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  Speaker 3: That's head coach Doug Peterson, of course, at a press
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  Speaker 3: conference late last week, discussing the initial fifty three man roster.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday JP Shadbrick
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  Speaker 3: with Tony Bisselli and Pete Prisco Or on ten xl
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  Speaker 3: AM Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. Glad you're with us.
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  Speaker 3: The Jaguars back of the building today after three mandated
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  Speaker 3: days off Friday, Saturday Sunday for the players, and back
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  Speaker 3: on the practice field today. Players day off tomorrow and
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: then Wednesday, the prep begins again for the Jaguars and
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium this Sunday. Doug Peterson,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: they're discussing wide receivers. What are you guys laughing at?
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here.
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  Speaker 5: What three days off? Back for day on Tuesday? Oh
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: my gosh, you read my mind.
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking the same day. I'm like, oh boy,
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  Speaker 4: how good it is to be an NFL player in
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: this system.
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  Speaker 5: It's incredible when you think about it, my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I mean good for them. I mean, you know Pete
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  Speaker 4: what it reminds me of Pete NJP. So I remember
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  Speaker 4: when I was playing and my brother in law actually
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  Speaker 4: played for the Buffalo Sabers when they were really good
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  Speaker 4: with Dominan kott Hashik and that when they went to
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  Speaker 4: the finals and so on and so forth. And he
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  Speaker 4: was the number on the number two line. So he
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: was a center on number two line. And he played
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  Speaker 4: in NHL for fifteen or seventeen years, long time. And uh,
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  Speaker 4: and I'd go up there during the offseason and watch
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  Speaker 4: him play. And and uh because I actually introduced him
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: to Andrew's little sister and that's how they met and
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: they got married. But we would talk about and he
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: would tell me his schedule and they had back then,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: their CBA was much like our CBA today is. Like
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: they had limited like the fine number of hours they
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: could be at the stadium for a practice and like
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: and it was like something ridiculous, like they could only
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: be on the ice for X amount of time and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: they only had to be at the facility X amount
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: of time. And people got there and they left, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, are you kidding? Me like it was like
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: three hours or four hours. It was a half day
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  Speaker 4: at most. And I used to and he's like, don't
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  Speaker 4: you guys have stuff like that. I'm like, hell no.
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  Speaker 4: They can beat the hell out of us and do
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  Speaker 4: whatever they want whenever they want. The only thing we
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: have is one mandatory day off a week, which is
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  Speaker 4: you know, Tuesday, and even then, if you're injured, they
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: can force you to come into the building and do
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: rehab and everything else. And he was blown away and
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: he said, what about training camp. I'm like, no, there's
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: no rules. I mean they own you and as much
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: time on the field, meetings, so on and so forth.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: And he's like that's crazy. He's like, even during camp,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: there's only so many hours we can be at the facility.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: And I used to think back, I'm like, man, that
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: sounds so good, because listen, do I think they maybe
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: have gone too far the other way in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: now because the NFL is the one professional sport that
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: takes reps. It's a very it's eleven guys on the
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: same page. It's the most strategic game in professional sports.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: It takes the most coordination, timing and everything else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think they might have gone too far the other way.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: But with that said, we were way too far doing
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  Speaker 4: stupid stuff. That was at the point I always said it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like we are now it's diminishing returns. Like the
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: more we like, the more time we're spending, we're not
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  Speaker 4: getting any better. If anything, it's just beating us up
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: and wearing us down. And and so I just I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I love it for the guys now because you can
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: take care of your body mentally, you're taking care of
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a limited time you have to be
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: at the facility. You can do all the treatment, all
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the and all by the way. The team provides everything
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: you need around that as well. Plus you can do
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: your own personal stuff. And so I just laughed when
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I heard that, you know, three days off mandatory. Then
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: they have another day off because it's game week. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know what, you have no excuse,
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  Speaker 4: especially if you're a pro peat if you're like a
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: guy who takes your craft seriously, so you're doing the
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: extra work, you're preparing Like I would have thrived in
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: this environment because I was always doing more in like
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  Speaker 4: trying to.
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  Speaker 6: You know, make sure I was ready for game day.
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  Speaker 5: And this.
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  Speaker 4: I would have just thrived in this because I would
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: have felt so good and mentally like ready and fresh
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: and recovered physically, and camp would have been a grind.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, Logs and I talking about all the time.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, you come out of camp and you were
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: beat the hell going into the regular season. You are tired.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Your body's tired.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Now, I think the advantage we had, I think we
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: had more callouses, Like there was a and I'm not
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: saying these guys aren't tough today, but like you beat
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: yourself into a position where you your body could endure
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: a lot, and you.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Were more physical. You tackled his physical.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was, but Pete, it was a more physical
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: game back then.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, like that guy joked around when we were
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: at camp, where's the where's the middle drill? When are
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: they gonna do the middle drill? Or goal line? Full
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: go goal line? They don't do it anymore.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: No, But yeah, and even the rules of the game
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: are you can't be as physical. I talked to current
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: players all the time offensive lineman, and they say, man,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: watching what you guys could do back then, it's like amazing,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Like and I'm not saying it's right like we used
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to be able to cut. Like if I got a
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: guy on the ground, I could go down and just
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: hammer them, you know I could. You could put your
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: hand in the face as long as you removed it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: They weren't going to call it right away. Now the
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: defense could do a lot of stuff to us too,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: you know when you used to pull the DBS could
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: come chop your knees out and go low and cut
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  Speaker 4: the story.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: When I was out, I was out in California with
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: the offensive lineman when those with the Charles Bentley was
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: doing this thing. And we sat down and we watched
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: the tape from the Cowboys Packers game when when Reggie
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: White and Larry Allen and and Eric Williams were there,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: and I was just sitting there because you know, I
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: lived it, I was around it. But to go back
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: and watch it, it was so violent. The line play
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: was just a war all to the entire time.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: It was just vicious that was there, and that was
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: there I played it. I mean it was just come
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: off the ball and just beat the hell out of
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: each other and downhill and vertical and cutting people and
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: cutting and you know, cutting.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: In the screen game out in space and.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Rolling up on guys and guys cutting you, and like
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: it was it was a and by the way, peel
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: back blocks and like you could ear hold guys and
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: you could get an ear hold.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: I mean that was the thing back in interceptions.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Throw on his offensive line and then get your head
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: on a swivel because they're coming after you, and I
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: mean you could get lit.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: The game is different in so many ways. In a
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: lot of ways, it's better in a lot of ways.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: It's it loses something as well. It loses the physical
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: early in the season, you're not the games aren't as
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: crisp and physical as they should be. You know, one
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: thing I did want to say, Colaughlin would have had
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: trouble with all these rules. But I want to go
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: back to last week. Man, the man needs to be
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame. Let's go yes, right, I mean, look,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: it's ridiculous. Tom Coughlin should be in the Hall of
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Fame and he didn't get in. They put you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: the old time coach in, and now they'll put Shanahan
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: in or him in next and then one of them
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: will go in. He'll get in.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: He should, Yeah, he's going to get in.
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  Speaker 8: He's going to get in.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I think you're exactly right, he will get in. But
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: back to your point about the physicality of the old
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: the way it was played, and is it a better
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: game or a worse game today, I actually think because
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest changes was is the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: freedom they gave receivers to run across the middle and
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: the way offense can be played now, because you didn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: need a reason to knock someone out going across the
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: middle when I played, and you and like I always
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: watching Jimmy and Keenan and those guys go across the
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: middle and the toughness and what they did, and even
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: like there's no helmet to helmet, no one even thought
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: about that. That's how and hit somebody, And there was
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: no defenseless receiver and anything like that. I mean, like
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: defensive ends used to be able to bull rush and
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: put their head right into our stirman's head first.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: I mean it was just and so.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: But what it's done the new rules, Yes, it's protected players,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: it's made the game less physical. It's still a physical game.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: You still got to be a tough dude to go
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: play this game. So I'm not questioning anyone's toughness it's
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: still physicals, just not as physical. But I think in
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: some aspects the fans like it more because it's opened
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: it up and it's become it's become a score. You know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of offense, big numbers and points that
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, we just talked about the Colorado TCU game,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: you know, and that's college football. But college football's even
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: taking a more severe approach of kicking kids out of
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: games if you go helmet the helmet. But for me personally,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I enjoyed. I probably enjoyed the game more when in
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: the era that I played in, just because that's what
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I was used to in the physical nature. But with
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: that said, I still love the game, and I think
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: the fans love it. And I think what they've done
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: with around training camp probably too far from me. But overall,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's the right move and protecting guys and
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: and and and by the way, I'm convinced half the
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: time coaches would do what they did to us just
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: because they were scared to death of someone else is
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: doing more than them. R. They just they just did
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: this stuff to do it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Like stay stay around the office at five o'clock on
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: a Friday in the off season just because you think
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: the other guys make it doing it, it might make it
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: look good. I agree, they all did that and some.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Of the practices were doing like this is just like
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: it's like, what do they come on, I don't need
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: to hit this much. I can't even like, I'm like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: beat the hell and we have a season ahead of me.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: And so I think it protects It makes the coaches
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: smarter too, and have to be smarter, and like, I'll
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: give you a perfect example, and I love what Doug
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Peterson did. If you look at the beginning of training camp,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: they ran two fields. They had the ones on one field,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: the twos in their field, and they got a ton
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: of reps in that's smart. These new rules are forcing
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: coaches to think through their strategies and how they prepare
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: their team. And you got to be smart and the
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: smart coaches will figure it out and that guys like
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Doug Peterson. So it's still a great game. The rules
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: have change, player safety is at the is at the forefront,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I always and I think thinking about player safety is good.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I always tell people though, if you're worried, like, don't
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: play this game if you want to be safe, though
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: this game is not for the people who want to
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: be safe.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: No, But you know it's funny, Tony. You talk about
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: your generation and one when I first started covering you
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: guys and stuff, and how violent nasty it was, Well
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: it was I'm a little older. You didn't have the
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: head slap it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: I remember, I was, Listen, you're not much older than
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I am.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: As a kid, I was. I've been watching NFL football
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: as a diehard fan since I remember watching the seventy
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: seven Broncos Orange Crush play against the Dallas Cowboys in
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. I mean, I like, I grew up
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: in the physicality and what happened. I mean think about
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: as a Bronco fan. I remember the fights between them
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and the Raiders, and it was mayhem and like no
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: one's getting thrown out. It was like a flag here
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: or there. And guy's body slamming. Remember I can't remember
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the guy. Remember the defensive lineman who body slammed Jim
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: McMahon almost killed.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Them, Turkey Jones.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: And I mean, now he that was so violent that
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: he actually because or did he do bra I don't remember,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: but I mean, and so the evolution of the game
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and and part of the evolution is a round player
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: safety and and playing the game and what what that
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: has opened it up more and made it up more
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: of an offensive game. That's why you go back and
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: look at some of the numbers, like the fact that
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Pete the all time Charles Pete, the fact that the
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: all time leading receiver in our game is Jerry Rice,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: who played it in an era where you could beat
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: up guys, you can get knocked out across the middle.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: It was a much more physical game, and that he
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: is still the all.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Time leader by a significant margin is remarkable. And you
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: go look at the numbers like that Jerry Rice put
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: up or a James Lofton who's even older than Jerry Rice,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: and what he did in the era where you could
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: beat people up all the way down the field. It is.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: We talked about it last week.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Dan Marino throwing for five nineteen eighty four, like that's that,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: like you like, that's when you appreciate the true greatness
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: of certain guys and what they were able to do.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think it's always very difficult to
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: compare players from ara to era, and you have to
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: judge when like we were talking about the Hall of
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: fame with coach Coughlin. You have to judge players based
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: on their era and what they did. And that's why
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I'll go to Fred Taylor. You look what Fred Taylor
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: did in the era he played in in in his
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: physical ability in the yards and the moves and the games,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: what he did is remarkable. In today's era, fred Taylor
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: would be yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: But in today's era they plan for five years and
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: then get rid of them.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: God yeah, yeah, but not Fred Taylor, because you remember
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: one thing Fred never did. Pete never slowed down.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's come back, guys.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: We got plenty ahead and we'll try to figure out
• 30:24
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  Speaker 9: Loans specific calls that we have, being able to play
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: off of each other, and already knowing where my boy is.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: You know, even if I might be dropping this way,
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: you know, my help, my beat to my left or something.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: Just knowing where all the pieces fit on the field.
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be huge. And then you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: hurry up. Obviously being able to communicate with each each
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: other on the field, already knowing what to expect from
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: each other out there, just being able to play faster
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: when we see a look.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Boy, look on Jaguars linebacker, the league's leading tackler the
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: last two seasons. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shaddick,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Pete Prisco, Tony Bisselli from the Hundai Studios. Well, I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: in the Hyundai Studios, Tony and Pete all right elsewhere.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: We're on ten to XL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Glad you're with us. The fanatics fan questions coming up
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: an hour number two. We'll keep it real as we
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: always do. The question there was about continuity in the defense.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: All the starters are back, the play caller is back,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the league's leading tackler is back. How would that help
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: that was his answer there. So they'll have a little
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: bit of a test here week one with the mobility
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: at least of Anthony Richardson. And I guess the challenge
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: this week is keeping him contained and you know, forcing
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: him to stand in there and make throws down the field.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I mean that that would be advantageous for the back
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: end of the Jaguars defense, I would guess, right, yeah, But.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: It's also how are they going to use him? I mean,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: are they gonna gimmick the whole offense up for him
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: or they gonna allow him to drop back and throw
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: the football. That's the unknown with him. I would imagine
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: they're gonna use him in the way they use Hurts
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: in Philadelphia. But again, when you're a pass rusher in
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: this with that style, Tony, you have to be a
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: lot more disciplined in your rush up the field or
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: else you could have problems.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you got to keep your lanes. You
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: gotta have your rush lanes. You hear a lot of
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: teams talk about kind of a mush rush where you're
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: just kind of forcing him to stay in the pocket
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: and operate from the pocket.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: And Jackson had a mush rush all last year. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: don't think they want to do that again this year.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: That's not very nice, but I do think. I mean, listen,
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: he's an athletic, big.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Strong kid, big arm. If anything. The question about him
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: is his accuracy. You saw that at Florida is limited
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: time there. I think a great comparison is Josh Allen.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And I think what you saw on Josh Allen early
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: in his career, because he was inaccurate at Wyoming, but
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: it had all the tools and it took him time
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: to get comfortable and reading defenses. And because remember Pete,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: how inaccurate he was early, but he really was.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: You know what, that was a perception of him at Wyoming.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: And I went back and I remember I went back
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: and watched all his games on tape and one thing
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: he had passes donkt off, guy's faces in hand. He
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: had terrible players at Wyoming. It was different, not that
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: not that Richardson, that talented star.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: But it's not like it's a little different.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: It's a little different.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: But I get your point. It's a good comparable. But
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: all reports out of Indian this is with the word
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: coming out of Florida. He's a great kid, smart, but
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: you know loves ball like Jim Ratt, and so he's
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: gonna figure it out. I think he's going to be
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: a good player, and I think the question is is
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: how do they utilize him early to kind of get
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: his feet wet and make sure he's comfortable. I think
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: it's going to be what you said, Pete, a lot
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: of jail and hurts. I think you're going to see
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: read options. I think you're going to see a lot
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: of you know, movement of the pocket. I think they're
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: asked him to use his legs when he can, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: that creates a problem for a defense when you're that athletic,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: when you're that talented, and it changes how you rush,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: it changes you know, what you want to do defensively,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: how aggressive you can be. I mean, heck, you play
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: any man coverage and go after him and you miss him.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: He's off to the races and there's no one to
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: go get him. And so I would expect a lot
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: of zone for.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Him on third down passes that I don't I.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Don't think so, Pete. Now, if you're gonna play zone,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: you know, I think you know. I think I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: you can play goods zone coverage.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: They don't actually have receivers that scare you if you
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: did match up with him and man de Man either though.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: No, but I think man the danger with man man
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: to your back, you bet you better have someone allocated
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: for him then because if he breaks contain or gets
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: out of that rush, see you later.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think this is where Devin Lloyd's speed and
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: his ability to be a better player than he was
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: a year ago and understand the concepts of the defense
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: will be in play big in this game. I think
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that's just me.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: No, I do too, but I I think you're gonna
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: see a lot of zone. I think you have a
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: lot of his own coverage that makes sense. Yeah, outside
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: of Tyson Campbell, eyes on the guy and just force him.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: This is I think the game plan forced him to
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: put long drives together and and then what you're gonna
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: then most likely is gonna happen. You're going to force mistakes.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: And because this is not a super talented team offensively,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I mean their best player Jonathan Taylor's you know, on
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: the Puplets.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Or out right think about it, your best players on
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: the Pupplets. Not playing your quarterback is a first time
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: starter and how it goes. They have nobody who scares
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: down the field at all. I mean Pierce and and
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: and Pittman doesn't. He's a good player, but he doesn't
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: run that well. You know, he's not scaring you with
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: his speed. They'll gimmick up some stuff for the tight ends.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: The offensive line was a disaster last year and so
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: it's it's a limited offense. He's going to be if
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville's defense doesn't play well, and you know, maybe they'll
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: give up one big long scramble play run type of thing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: But the rest of the game, I expect them to
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: contain that off I really do.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: No, I do too. But here's the thing. Shane Stike
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: is a heck of a play came and he proved
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: it that at the Chargers. He proved to Philly. That's
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: why he's a head coach. I mean, they'll have a
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: game plan, they'll be ready, and Gus Bradley is a
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: heck of a defense coordinator, soy two good. They have
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: two good coordinators and Gus will have a plan for
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Trevor and what they want to do. And my guess
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: is they're gonna play you know, accommodation, a lot of
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: you know, base coverage of some single, single, high three
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: deep looks. They'll do some different thanks split safety looks
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: to keep them, keep them honest, and they're gonna try
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: to force keep everything in front of him and force
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Trevor to put together long drives as well.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's anyway, that's my point.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Look at if you look at Gus's success whether he
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: was at the Chargers, the Raiders, or at the Colts
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: against a similar offense like the Chiefs, same mindset, Andy Reid.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: You know, Doug Peterson a lot of talent offense. He
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: plays the game saying, listen, we're gonna keep everything in
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: front of us, and we're gonna play great red zone
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: defense and force field goals and and keep trying to,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: you know, make sure that you can't light up the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: scoreboard with big because of all the big plays and
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: explosives that you get. So I think that that, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: that will kind of be their game plan. And I mean,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars are a much better team. I mean, come on,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: they're much better teams. And this is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Exactly by the way that flipped quickly. You know it has,
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: it has because it wasn't only it wasn't a couple
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: of years ago. You weren't thinking that. Remember the a
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago was give them a quarterback and
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: they're gonna be there. They're gonna be a good team.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: The Coles that that's not the case anymore.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: No, not at all. They got a quarterback, or at
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: least a young one, and they got a lot of
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: questions across the board. So I mean, listen, I mean,
• 38:44
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• 38:46
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• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Oh here it comes, Wow already.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lock that Jaguars win this game.
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  Speaker 5: The question I'm locking, I'm locking it too, so you
• 38:55
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• 38:57
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  Speaker 1: Bowl, so that now double lot.
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  Speaker 4: And so I mean, and you know, I kind of
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  Speaker 4: I always like playing Opening Day on the road because
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: anything can happen on Opening Day, and you know, I
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: think the home field advantage is a little bit less
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: peak just because there's so much hype and unknown and excitement.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: And then you get that home opener Week two against
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  Speaker 4: Force them to come to the heat, come to Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 4: Fans will be routing first time to see it. So
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: this is but this is huge. It's a division game.
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  Speaker 4: Those always count more. It's it's the first step, you know,
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• 39:46
  Speaker 4: and you are the better team. If you want to
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  Speaker 4: the number one seed or a top seed in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: you have to win the games that you are clearly
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  Speaker 4: going to to be a handful that are a coin flip,
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  Speaker 4: like the following week when you play the Chiefs, that's
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: a coin flip at home, and so you got to
• 40:08
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  Speaker 5: Which should be in the majority of the games in
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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• 40:20
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  Speaker 4: He didn't go as far as he didn't go as
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  Speaker 5: Though, Well, let me think about it. If you get
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  Speaker 3: and that's just kind of goes to what we were talking
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  Speaker 3: two guys about the offense. I mean, it's they're pretty
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  Speaker 3: good last year, but give them another year in the
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  Speaker 3: system together and adding a piece or two and just
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  Speaker 3: continuing to build upon that. And with the guy triggering it, Pete,
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  Speaker 5: And the fact that they know it that much better.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the only what everybody's back, The only new
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  Speaker 5: guy is Ridley. I mean that's basically the same group.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's where and Tony, you can you can
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  Speaker 5: guys became more comfortable with your offense, how much better
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  Speaker 5: were you the next year and the next year?
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Oh? You just because it becomes second nature. It's instinctful
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: or instinctive. Excuse it's instinctive in the you become instinctful.
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  Speaker 4: It's instinctive as you approach the game. Because things just
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I immediately corrected it. I mean
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  Speaker 4: the fact that I mean you like, I didn't say anything.
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  Speaker 1: What did I say?
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  Speaker 4: I could go back and listen to your stupid game
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: you called and all the damn things you said that
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: were dumb over a three hour period which is plenty.
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  Speaker 4: Trust me, I've listened before and anyone who does that
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: for a living has a number of things they say, like, oops,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: that was not my best but you like taking shots.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't say anything. I'm just saying, but.
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  Speaker 5: We could you could see the shot.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I like the point you were making. What is that
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: That was a visual shot, which was it was a
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  Speaker 1: It was warranted though, yes it was speed. I didn't
• 47:38
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• 47:41
  Speaker 1: guy out.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: My gosh, I corrected it. First of all, you become
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: very instinctive and in the as far as the game plan,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: it's you're not doing as much thinking. And so what
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Christian Kirk said exactly right. You're in the system, you
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: know it. It's it's you know, it's become second nature.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: But the biggest thing, let's just be clear, is Trevor
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Lawrence is more comfortable. He has more command of the offense.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: So think of how good he was at the back
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: half of the last season, and now he's going to
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: grow from that platform. So he's gonna I mean, because listen,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: he has all the athletic ability, he has every tool
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: you need in the toolbox to be the best quarterback
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, including what's between the ears and the
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: toughness and the leadership. And so now you're giving me
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: give him year two in the same system with a
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: great offensive coaching staff, with weapons around him, in a
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: good offensive line. Watch out. I mean, I think the
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: MPKA And this is where I got ripped in. I've
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: got ripped in this offseason with two things I said.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: One is the twenty three to twenty five sacks, which
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: is Pete mentioned it one of the reasons I believe
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: that because I think this offense is will be explosive.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: We're gonna be playing with leagues all day, all day, so.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: You can in those kind of scenarios, you can almost
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: fall into those twenty three twenty five sacks.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: You're gonna get. They're gonna get twenty five percent more
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: opportunities this year.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: And by the way, if you have a number one
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: overall pick, in the top ten pick on the other side,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: you should have twenty three to twenty five sacks between
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: the two of you when you're playing with the lead.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: So in the second thing I got ripped for, I
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: said on the Morning Show with Dan and Jeff on
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: ten ten, I said, I think this will be the
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: most the best, most prolific offense in the history of
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: the franchise.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: You said that here last week.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but you are You and JP are
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: smart enough to understand what that means and how I'm
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: saying it. Where Dan and Jeff and me or Dan,
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I should say, immediately go to well, Jimmy, Calvin Ridley
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: is not better than Jimmy. Their tackles aren't better than you.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: And leon Etan is not better than Fred. I said,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I never said that. No, I said, first of all.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: You said that this is not the most talented, it
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: is going to be the most prolific, big different best.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: Yes, that's the offense and the history of this franchise.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Big difference. Back in a moment.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Second hour of the program coming up, including fanatics, fan questions.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 7: Obviously, you know, we know we got the quarterback. We
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: feel like we got the skill you know around him.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, then the pieces are there, obviously, But it's
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: a long season, and and injury plays a part of
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: this game, and and I don't look I don't look
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: past today honestly, get through today and then focus on
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: next Monday, and you know, get the guys back in here.
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: And and the one thing I will say though with
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: this team is they're in the right frame of mind.
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: You know, they're they're leaving today for the holiday weekend,
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: eager to get ready and and really you know, put
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: training camp behind us and and start you know, focusing
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: in on the regular season. So I'm excited about that,
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: but uh, you know, as far as where we can
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: end up, that's way too early to tell.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson this past Thursday, Welcome Back. It's
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: our two of Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday, presented by
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Mister Chubby's Wings from the Hyundai Studios inside the Miller
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Electric Center, JP Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Bisselli. The Jaguars
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: cut the roster down to fifty three last Tuesday afternoon.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: One of the highlights one of the surprises. Seven wide
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: receivers on the roster, three tight ends, eight offensive linemen
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: made it through the cut after players had After that,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: players had Friday, Saturday Sunday off for the holiday weekend.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Back to work today to get back into it ahead
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: of the week one game coming up Sunday at Lucas
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Oil Stadium in Indianapolis against the division rival Colts. Last year,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars split the series with the Colts with a
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: big win of course, early in the season here in
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville twenty four nothing they shout of mount Week two.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: The Jags defense spores three Matt Ryan interceptions that day.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Matt Ryan's doing TV for CBS this year. Lawrence with
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: two touchdown passes both the Christian Kirk and then Week
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: six at Indianapolis, the Colts scored a late touchdown seventeen
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: seconds left in the fourth quarter to take the lead
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: for good. That was over Shack Griffin, who's now in Houston.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: The Jaguars rushed for two hundred and forty three yards
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: in that game and lost six best total in team mystery. Well, now,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: the Jags have not fared well in India all time,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: of course, and He's been very good over the years.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: But the high points scored for the Jaguars in Indianapolis
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: at either stadium, the RCA Dome or Lucas Oil Stadium
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: is twenty seven points three different times. And they'll see
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: if they can get close to that surpass that this
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: week they scored twenty six, another time twenty five.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Another.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: In those twenty seven point performances, the Jaguars two to
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: one in games played in Indianapolis, Pete Prisco, Tony Bassel.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Are you joining us now? Coming up this week of course,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: as the Jaguars get ready for week number one. So
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: here we are finally on the doorstep of the season, guys,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: been a long, long off season and actual real football.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Peat is a straight ahead Thursday night the kickoff game
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: right the Chiefs and the.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: I'm ready for real football, man. I'll tell you what.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: When you get the training camp, you get you get excited,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: you travel r I do. I travel around, I go
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: see teams. I get excited. Then you get the preseason,
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: you see about a half and you're like, okay, moving on,
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: let's move on. And then you get two weeks afterwards.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: I mean it's with you know, just transactional stuff. You
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: don't see any football, and so I'm I'm ready for
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: some NFL football. By the way, Jackson wasn't scored more
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: than twenty seven in Indy When what did you say
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: the last time they did that?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Just to yeah, last last year they scored twenty seven
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and lost.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but where was the last time they scored twenty
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: seven up there? In one?
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: It's been a minute. Let's look at that againy seventeen.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they're gonna score more than twenty seven and
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: win this week. How about that? I think they scored
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: thirty four up there this week.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Sounds good.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Trevor's going to get his MVP season underway quickly.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Hey, Pete, Well I agree. I mean I think they'll
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: score a bunch of points. So that's actually a shocking
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: statistic when you think about it. The most thing ever
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: scored in Indianapolis is twenty seven, especially over the last
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: several years, where this league has set up to score points.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: It's actually it's just shocking when you think about it
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: that way.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but when was the last time they had a
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: really good offense?
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Though? That's my I'm not that's my pole point. It's
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: shocking that we've been that mediocre at offense. We're poor, Pete.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: What did you do on your last weekend off until
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl Sunday?
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: I watched college football on Saturday?
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Who do you want?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: And then I went to the I went to the
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: beach on Sunday? What did you do?
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: You know, college football on Saturday, and then sat at
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: the beach yesterday Sunday.
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: So he did the same thing. I was on one coast,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: you were on the other. You were in the cold water.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: Did you get in?
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Heck no, my son, my son was with me. He's like, hey,
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: you want to go body surfing. I'm like, not a chance.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: It's too cold too. Plus there's sharks in that California water.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: That doesn't that doesn't worry. I used to swim in
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: that when I was a kid growing up, coming here
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: all the time, and then and then in college, living
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: here five years, we go to the beach all the time.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: I mean I would go swimming in March in the ocean.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: It would be like sixty degrees.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Did you go put your feet at least yesterday?
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: No?
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: No, you didn't even do that.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: No. No. I sat on the chair, watched the sunset
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: and listen talk to my wife, my son, my stepmom,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: listened to music, and hung.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: Out and went to hobbyers.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: It's a pretty good day.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: It was a good day.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: I was in the water a lot yesterday. It was rough.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: You know, usually the water down here isn't rough. It's
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: calm as can be. It was rough yesterday for some reason.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know why, but it was. I love the
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: be I could sit on the beach all day.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: I'm the beach guy.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: It's a good beach to sit on down there, Pete.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: It's gorgeous. It really is gorgeous. The water, you know what.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: And I've traveled a lot of the Caribbean islands. When
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: the waters at its best, here, it's as good as
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: any Caribbean island, any of them, and I've been there
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: a lot of them, so yeah, it's it's definitely different.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: Plus it's so clear. You can see the sharks when
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: they swim up on it.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: That's right. They won't sneak up on you.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I had one.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: You could hear the music though, so that would be
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: a dead giveaway, right a JP.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: I was at Fernandino once with my brothers. They were
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: visiting me, and we were up there in the water
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: and I had a shark brush me in the water
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, no, time to get out
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: of here, because you can't see up there. The water's
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: a little.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Darker, it's a little more a little murky because of
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: the inlet the river coming in. But yeah, back to
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Indy JP. Listen, we're getting I mean opening day, it's
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: a little bit of unknown. I mean we think we
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: know and yes, I have supreme confidence in this offense
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: just to get rolling and just light up the light
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: up the colts. But I will just a word of caution.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: I've locked it, piece locked it. Crazy things happen on
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: opening day. Teams you think have no business of winning
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: the game win a game and they end up being
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: terrible for the rest of the year. And teams that
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: end up going to the playoffs stubbed are to early.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can pull out a play that you
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: haven't scouted or they haven't seen anywhere, and they can
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: draw something up right that hey, well it's.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Drawing up like Indian It's a great example. We have
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: no idea what they're going to do, Dandy Richardson, you
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: think they showed anything in preseason of actually what they're
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: going to do.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Let's go back to last year and see a playoff
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: team who lost to a non playoff team in Week one.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: One, Oh, Jacksonville, Yeah, we lost to the Commander Commanders.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: The Eagles barely beat the Lions last year on opening Day?
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: Who else?
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I believe the Lions had a big, big lead or
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: no they or no they were down and they came back.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: The Steelers beat the Bengals on opening Day in Cincinnati
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, Pete, weren't the Bengals owned to
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: last year?
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah? And then uh where else? I'm just signing to look,
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: that's that's about it on opening day last year. But no,
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: the Bucks beat the Cowboys on opening Day last year.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah hhmm, pretty.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: Amazing, Pretty amazing that things happened the way they do something.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Bucks weren't ended up not being a
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: really good team last year, and and and the Cowboys were.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: They weren't great either though, But you're right though, something
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: anything can happen on opening Day. I think that's where
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: coaching comes in in a big way, Tony. Don't you
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: don't you think the good coach usually will have his team.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: I always worry about even the good teams when they
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: have a game on the road in like Week three
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: after winning a couple. Those are the ones I worry
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: about more so than an opening Day if you have
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: a good coach.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but take the Bengals, I think they're well coached
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: on exactly the coach that they have a great quarterback
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: in Joe Burrow.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: The remember he was he missed time last year with
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: the what do you have? He had the appendectomy and
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: he almost never played in the preseason barely at all.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: So he was like, that has something to do with it.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Well, my point is, I mean, you look at the
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: history of the league, there's always some Let me put
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: it this way, Pete, I guarantee you, if you go
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: down the list of games on this coming Sunday, this weekend,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: there will be one or two shock shocking like you're like,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I would have never thought that team
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: would beat that team. I agree, and so I I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: do not think it's going to be the Colts. I'm
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: not worried about that. But just the word of caution.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: It's opening weekend in the NFL, and trust me, dug
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: in this coaching staff or not taking this like no
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: one's taking it lightly. No one's saying we're better than
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: the Colts. Is roll the ball out there and let's go,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: you know, figuring out and we'll go win the game.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: We have Trevor Lawrence on this great offense. So but
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: I have a sense feed I think this is a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: ten to fourteen point victory for the Jags.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: You want to lock that too, or just the win.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I'll lock whatever you want. I'm locking
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: the win if it makes you feel better to lock
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: the actual I'm just curious point differential, happy to do that.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: You're calling your shot there.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: But again, when they've beaten in the past, when they've
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: dominated the Colts, it's always been by blasting the Colts,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: going back to the you know, by running it down
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: their throat and stuff. I don't think that's I mean,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: they'll run the ball, but I don't think that's who
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: this team is anymore.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: No, so is this the.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: Game where they go up and throw Trevor Larrange throws
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: for three point fifty and three touchdowns and they score
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: the win by ten to fourteen, Like you're saying that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: that's I think that's who they are now. But he's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: gonna have You're right, he's gonna have to be patient, Tony.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: He's gonna have to be because you know, Gus is
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: gonna make him be patient. The problem with that scenario
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: is in a lot of the spots where Gus was
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: and he allowed teams to be patient, he had Bosa.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: He had Crosby. He doesn't have that in Indianapolis. You know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: he hasn't. This is an elite pass rusher, he doesn't
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: have one.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have one.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: I mean Buckner is a good player, but he's not
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: an elite edge player, you know what I mean?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Wait, what is the best passwords was probably Quitty Pey.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: It's not a good group. I mean, it just isn't.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: They don't. I mean they've drafted so many guys there
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: and it hadn't worked out. They get that. What they
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: the kid from ebucom from the Rams, he's just a guy.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, they don't who else, they don't have anything.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: It's a It's not a good group from rushing pastors standpoint,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: which is why I think Trevor Lawrence should have a field.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: They've not only that, you're starting a rookie corner.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: They have all kind of cornered issues at depth corner,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: all kinds of issues.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're banged up back there. They got
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: who they going to start? I mean they're going to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: start Flower Dallas, Flowers, maybe Juju breandn. If Jacksonville doesn't
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: roll up a big number the passing game, I will
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: be astounded. Yeah, well, but patience has to be important,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: no doubt. Well, no doubt, patience is here.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: And they've got the personnel to to, you know, go
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: down the field slowly if they need to. Right, they
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: got the tight end, they got the they got the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: slot player, they got.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: The way Trevor, the way Trevor Lawrence plays now with
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: the ball, getting to the rights, knowing where to go
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: in those quick throws everything. If they're gonna play him
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: like that, he'll just take it absolutely well.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: And I do think they'll be good. I think the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: run game will be good too. I'm looking forward to
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: seeing Etn and Bigsby and how they and how they
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: kind of roll those guys through and because I think
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: both of them look good in the preseason, and so
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: I think it. Pete. I actually think this might be
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: a little bit more balanced than we thought on Sunday
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: because of how Gus wants to play a defense. And
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're playing off, if you're playing off their
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: dare and you're to run, you run, then they come down,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: then you throw the shots over the top. I got it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: I understand that. But here here's The other thing this
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: team now is fast. Jacksonville's fast on offense. It's a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: fast offense. The tight ends fast for a tight end
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: the you know Ridley's fast, et N's fast. You know
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: they're fast. Day Jones can fly and on that turf,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: that should play to that speed because you're even faster.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: So I think that's why they'll take it. You're right though,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: they might have to run a little bit to take
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: them out of that and then then hit them with
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: the shots down the field. But the way they design
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: the ovis stone you talk about all the time. They
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: make it so easy on the lineman, on the quarterback,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: the balls out, it's hard to rush the passer.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Well, they moved the pocket a lot of play action
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: zone reads. You know, they like it'll be be And
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about this next Monday and I'll count it up.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: And if you get a chance to watch the film
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: before Monday, you do the same thing. How many times
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: do they drop back a straight drop back pass on
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: first or second down? If it's yeah, I I if
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: it's more than five times. Now, the only time, the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: only chance it's more than five times the entire game
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: is if they're they're in a bunch of second in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: eight or longer situations if.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: They're behind, or if they were behind, or if.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: They're behind, if they stay on schedule, it could be
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: zero zero, like they did not straight drop back first
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: and second.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Man, JP, do you have Trevor's numbers last year against
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: the Colts, because that's that'd be interesting to see how
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: he was against gust last year and just if you
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: pop them up real quick.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can do that. Yes, I can absolutely do
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: that real quick.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: Cause I think that would be interesting to see because again, Tony,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: you talk about what they used to do to Mahomes,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: and early in mahomes career he used to hate it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: Remember he wasn't patient. It bothered him. He had some
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: of his worst games against Gus's defense. But as he
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: got older, he realized, Okay, I can take this, I
• 1:05:38
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  Speaker 3: No one doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Count because he's still using the urban Meyer end them
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  Speaker 5: of going there, so that one doesn't count.
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  Speaker 3: He was twenty five of thirty in the game, by
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  Speaker 1: Touchdowns. Oh gosh, sheet I love you man one and
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  Speaker 1: twenty one.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta get it at one and.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty one rating in the game and then add in
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  Speaker 3: the twenty of twenty two passing one sixty five through
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  Speaker 3: the year one touchdown efficient.
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  Speaker 1: But they ran the ball, They ran the daylights out
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  Speaker 1: of it that day.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so he didn't have to do any Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they lost, but they they did run the
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  Speaker 1: ball a bunch.
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  Speaker 5: So again that's what they didn't. They should have won
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  Speaker 5: that game.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see he was, he was forty five forty five
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  Speaker 3: of fifty two against the Colts last year.
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  Speaker 5: Well that and that tells you, Tony, that goes back
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  Speaker 5: to what we were just saying about being patient getting
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  Speaker 5: the ball out exactly right.
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  Speaker 7: Kittlebon You know coming off of last season, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the growth and the the the the potential that he
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  Speaker 7: had from last season.
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  Speaker 5: Going into this offseason.
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  Speaker 7: And and uh.
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  Speaker 1: You see, you see a guy that.
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  Speaker 5: Understands the defense.
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  Speaker 7: He's a great you know in in setting an edge
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  Speaker 7: in the run game.
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  Speaker 5: Uh he gives you some really good.
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  Speaker 7: Uh pass rush and a veteran player, you know, and
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  Speaker 7: and uh you is here just a young athletic quick
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  Speaker 7: still learning very raw, you know at the position. But uh,
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  Speaker 7: somebody that can that can come in and and really
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  Speaker 7: give you a change of pace, uh edge rusher. And
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  Speaker 7: and that's what we uh, that's what we're gonna see
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  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach, discussing hal On Chase on
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  Speaker 3: by Robert Mandavi. Our topic today Defense. Who is the
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  Speaker 3: best defensive player for the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the most consistent is the Luca I mean
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  Speaker 4: he's the most consistent. The best boy Tyson Campbell.
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  Speaker 5: I would say it's it's between Tyson Campbell. Boy.
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you another name.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give you another name that made some of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest plays all last year on defense, Rayshawn Jenkins.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's not I don't. He's a feast or
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  Speaker 5: famine in my book.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but on defense that lived famine and needed those
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  Speaker 4: big plays.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I wouldn't say that. I would say.
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  Speaker 6: No, Tyson Campbell. I'm saying, what about.
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  Speaker 5: If Hamilton were If Hamilton.
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  Speaker 6: Was healthy, well he probably had the best camp.
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  Speaker 5: But about Roy Robertson Harris when he's playing at his best.
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  Speaker 4: Roy Robinson Harris at the beginning part and the end
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  Speaker 4: part of last season was a big factor on that defense.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So if he plays like that, is he one
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  Speaker 5: of the is he that it could say Tyson Campbell's
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  Speaker 5: the best one?
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  Speaker 1: Josh Josh Allen the last month the season was impactful.
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  Speaker 5: If he can do that, Look, Josh Allen or and
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  Speaker 5: or Trayvon Walker have to be in the conversation for
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  Speaker 5: best defensive player on the roster this year period. They
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  Speaker 5: have to be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you talk potential, those two guys are at
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  Speaker 4: the top of the list. But he's got to realize
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  Speaker 4: it because I mean you said at JP at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the year, Josh Allen was great, Well.
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  Speaker 5: He's getting fifteen sacks and uh, Traymond Walker is getting
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  Speaker 5: ten according to you, wo.
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  Speaker 4: Or thirteen and twelve I mean, or if you got
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  Speaker 4: twelve and a half, twelve and a half.
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  Speaker 5: If they get thirteen to twelve, then that that'll be
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  Speaker 5: a special season for that defense.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: So Yeah, the problem with when you asked that question, JP,
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  Speaker 5: and it's a good question, is there's no clear cut answer.
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  Speaker 5: And I think on most defenses, particularly on the good defenses,
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  Speaker 5: there is a clear cutoands. As for example, if you
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  Speaker 5: go to the Cowboys, Michael Parsons, you go to the
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  Speaker 5: forty nine ers, Nick Bosa, You go to the Steelers,
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  Speaker 5: t J. Watt. You know, usually there's a clear cut answer.
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  Speaker 5: Now it's not always the case, but the majority of
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  Speaker 5: the time it is. What about the Ravens D They
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  Speaker 5: don't have a great defense, That's that's a there's a
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  Speaker 5: myth in there. They don't have great pass rushers. They
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  Speaker 5: got hopeful They're like they got Jacksonville hopefuls like Ojabo.
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  Speaker 5: They think he's going to be a good player. They
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  Speaker 5: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, how about the Bengals.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's probably Bates the safety.
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  Speaker 5: Well he's gone though, so who would it be now
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  Speaker 5: he's in Atlanta. DJ Reider is a good player. He
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  Speaker 5: doesn't get the credit for Belay.
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  Speaker 4: Hendrickson Hendrickson or the linebacker Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson.
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  Speaker 5: But there's no clear cut one there. So yeah, you're right,
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  Speaker 5: there's no clear cut one there. Like in Miami, if
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  Speaker 5: Miami everybody's healthy, Jayalen Ramsey's the best defensive player on
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  Speaker 5: Miami's defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not out there.
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  Speaker 5: No, So their best defense. I think they're best defenders, well,
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  Speaker 5: probably Christian Wilkins, but I think Jalen Phillips will be
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  Speaker 5: by the end of this year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is why the Jets are gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: really good defense. You could is it Quinton Williams? Is it,
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  Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner is it? You know, who's the best defense
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  Speaker 4: player on that team.
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  Speaker 5: They're not very good at like they're not great at linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: Though, but the is the old Ravens still there.
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  Speaker 5: He's okay, moy he's okay, He's a good player. And
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  Speaker 5: then the other Quincy Williams is the other starter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and then and then they have they have a boatload
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  Speaker 5: of guys, even if they're not household names, they have
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  Speaker 5: a boatload of guys up front that just to roll
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  Speaker 5: him in. Like John Franklin Myers is a good player.
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  Speaker 5: You know, nobody even knows who he is a good player. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the the Jermaine Johnson from FSU. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they're loaded up front. And Djat's a good corner too.
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  Speaker 5: They're not very good at safety, they're average at safety.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they're they're gonna be good if if we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna be based on getting after the quarterback, which is
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  Speaker 5: what Solid's defense usually are, they'll be good on defense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a great question for this defense, It
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  Speaker 4: really is.
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  Speaker 5: There is nobody.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's Tyson Campbell. He is the best, most consistent,
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  Speaker 4: big play guy they have.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, is Tyson Campbell a top ten corner in the NFL?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not?
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  Speaker 5: If he went through it right, he's not. He's pushing
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  Speaker 5: it maybe at ten to eleven somewhere. Could he be
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  Speaker 5: after the season. Maybe, But that's just it. They don't
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  Speaker 5: have a dominant defensive player.
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  Speaker 3: Can this group as a whole, with all the continuity
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  Speaker 3: back and the play calling all taking a step together,
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  Speaker 3: overcome that or just can somebody grow out of that?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think they have a lot of good fotball
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  Speaker 4: players on the defense JP like Pete, and I've said this,
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  Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen are good football players. They're
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  Speaker 4: just not the impactful pass rushers of this that we
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  Speaker 4: on a consistent basic that disrupt the game. I say
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  Speaker 4: it all the time on defense and today, especially today.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's always been like this at some level,
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  Speaker 4: but it's I think it's more important today than ever.
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  Speaker 4: You have to have that one disruptor, the one guy
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  Speaker 4: that keeps you up at night that can just change.
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  Speaker 6: A game fall by himself.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, and most of the time that's a
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  Speaker 4: guy up front like a Bosa or a TJ. Watt
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  Speaker 4: or you know, one of those guys, a von Miller
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  Speaker 4: type of player. But at corner, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 4: that everyone hates this guy more than anybody. Jalen Ramsey.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey. When he's healthy at his top, he changes
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  Speaker 4: how you can play defense because of the way he
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  Speaker 4: can cover and the you know, and you look at
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  Speaker 4: the rams and use the rams you see is a
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  Speaker 4: nickel outside and a bunch of different stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he has a skill set that's so unique that he
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  Speaker 4: changes how you can play. I mean, you go, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you go back to the great Ravens defense. Now that
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  Speaker 4: at every level a bunch of good players, but like
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  Speaker 4: Ed Reid at safety, I mean he he disrupted the
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  Speaker 4: entire game and how you played. And you know how
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  Speaker 4: you you had to identify him, you had to find
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  Speaker 4: out where he was on the field. Troy Paul Mala.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's always easier to pick those pass rushers
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  Speaker 4: out because they just they jump off, you know. But
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  Speaker 4: there's there's guys that disrupt an offense and I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we have that guy today on our defense. I
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  Speaker 4: think we have guys who have the potential to do that.
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  Speaker 4: But potential is not worth much until you fulfill it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, and I you know, I believe as
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  Speaker 4: much as anybody and Trayvon and and Josh based on
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  Speaker 4: you know what I said about the number of sacks
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  Speaker 4: are gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Get this year, but they got to go do it now.
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  Speaker 4: If they do that and they become twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
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  Speaker 4: Zach guys, okay, you know, you know, if you look
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  Speaker 4: at this defense, the last guy that was really that
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  Speaker 4: guy for us was Klay's Campbell. I means Klay's Campbell
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  Speaker 4: disrupted offenses, insinated.
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  Speaker 5: From an interior. It's like Chris Jones does it for
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  Speaker 5: the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Jones, there's a great example. And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: they're they're going to struggle to stop people until they
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  Speaker 4: get him back.
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald, Oh, that's a no brainer, right, But I'm
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  Speaker 5: saying you're but you're right. They could be defensive lineman
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  Speaker 5: Micah Parsons is you know from the edge. Now he's
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  Speaker 5: an edge player. They're making him strictly an edge player,
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  Speaker 5: which I think is smart. But you don't have one
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  Speaker 5: on this defense yet, there's not one.
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  Speaker 4: We feel good about all three of them, obviously good
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  Speaker 4: good about their upside.
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  Speaker 5: Great juniors competing for that Nickel spot right now.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Monterrek's done some very good things through camp
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  Speaker 4: and has earned that spot.
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  Speaker 1: And you know Christian a very talented young guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's had a little injury bug early on so he
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  Speaker 3: missed some time, but really excited about his potential. Trent Walk,
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  Speaker 3: totally Chad with Ridley as the true wide receiver. One,
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  Speaker 3: how do you think other receivers will handle not getting
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: as many targets? And what do you think Doug Doug
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  Speaker 3: Peterson may be doing to help mitigate any possible issues.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think this is an issue, Pete, with this group.
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  Speaker 4: I don't sense that at all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first off, it's an issue with every receiver, but
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  Speaker 5: it's not going to be a major issue.
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  Speaker 4: Sure. And I think if you're especially if you're winning now,
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  Speaker 4: if they're not winning and having not having success, that's
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  Speaker 4: where you get, you know, trouble.
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  Speaker 6: But if they're winning, having.
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  Speaker 4: Success moving the ball, yeah, listen, there's always going to
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  Speaker 4: be you know comments. I mean, heck, when we were good,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Keenan and Jimmy and there was
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: only two of them. You know, Keenan was never covered.
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  Speaker 4: That was Pete's lyne. He's always Keenan's always open.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but no one of that Keenan. And he would
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  Speaker 5: never admit this. Ocean will back me up on this.
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  Speaker 5: Keenan was a happier receiver when he caught ten for
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: one twenty and two touchdowns and they lost, then he
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  Speaker 5: was when he went two for seventeen and you won.
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  Speaker 5: He would never admit that because that's just human nature.
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  Speaker 4: You want to win.
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  Speaker 5: But come on, I mean, receivers want the ball. They
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: always have. But is it going to be a problem
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: with this group. Not as long as you're winning. And
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  Speaker 5: I don't think the quarterback will allow it to become
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: a problem. It wasn't a problem with Keenan. He just
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: bitched and moaned about it, and Jimmy would bitch and
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: moan about it two but they never made it an issue.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's I mean, Pete right, it's in the nature
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  Speaker 4: of every receiver want the ball. I get it. I mean,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: you know every position has little nuances like that. I mean,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: offensive line would want to run the ball, and you
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: you know, hear us yelling at the sidelines called the run,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: called the run and you know, and you know everyone,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, so I just don't sense that from this group.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you listen to I mean you listen to
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: Christian Kirk talk. I mean Jay Jones, he's been their
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: team guys. I think Ridley is a guy who's coming
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: back after a tough two years, what he's gone through.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: I think he's he's happy to be back and playing
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: now and now do I think that Doug's going to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: be aware and he's going to make sure the guys
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: that plays called for them where they get the ball
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: to certain guys during the game. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: What are the numbers for the receivers this year?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: I think I think Ridley has as ninety in the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: ninety range. I think Kirk has in the eighty range,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: Zay Jones has you know, high sixty low high sixties,
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  Speaker 4: and then I think Evan Ingram's in the fifty sixties.
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  Speaker 5: It's a lot of catches.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how many how many complete how many
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: completions did Trevor have last year?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Last year, Trevor Lawrence had a total of three hundred
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: eighty seven completions.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so ninety yes, okay, but so three hundred how.
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  Speaker 1: Many eighty seven three eight seven.
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  Speaker 4: What was it?
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  Speaker 6: What was his completion percent?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Sixty six percent.
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  Speaker 4: So let's I think that'll be over four hundred feet
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  Speaker 4: this year. So let's just say it's four hundred receptions.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, number Okay, So ninety to Kirk, I mean to uh,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: Ridley eighty one seventies, that's one seventy. What'd you say
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: for Ingram?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: I call, uh, that's one.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: Eighty, that's one seventy.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: And then once that he called sixty for Ingram and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: z So now you're at two ninety. They have another
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: one hundred and ten for the rest of the Backs.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: The Backs will get forty five. Yeah, yeah, maybe, but
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna be I think it's more
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: for Ridley it'll be ninety and a lot of big plays,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: where I think for Kirk it'll be eighty and and
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: more of this stuff in the middle of the field,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: and Zay's might have more big plays down the field
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: and less catches. Do what are you a great?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: Maybe?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: I mean they like run Zay across on the drags
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: and different things and the deep overs, and Ingram's on
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: the move all the time. I mean, if you just
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: those four receivers. That's three hundred ninety I mean sorry,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: two hundred ninety uh receptions.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: Can you get a couple of extra tight ends? The
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: extra tight ends?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's a realistic at all. Now. I
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: also could the year where you know, Kirk and really
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: go Off both have ninety and maybe you know, because
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: here's their thing. If those guys are rolling, they're going
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: to get more reps and the other guys aren't going
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: to get in the game. You have those three receivers
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: rolling for most of the game.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Just for reference, by the way, last year, Christian Kirk
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: eighty four, Zay Jones eighty two catches, Ingram seventy three catches,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: Marvin Jones Junior had forty six.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: So the fourth receiver in this group is going to
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: be one of the Zay Jones with the tight end
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: is going to get the fourth amount of catches.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: You would think, yeah, I think you'll probably the day.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: What the backs have?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Etn had thirty five catches, Hasty had twenty, So.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: There's fifty five to the backs. What about Agnew?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Agnew had twenty three catches, So in.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: You know, those little gimmick shovel passes count as passes too,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: and so so yeah, you're you're probably ninety, is right,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: but see for mine is ninety. I said for for
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: Ridley ninety for a big yardage chunks and a lot
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: of touchdowns. I think he's gonna have ten or eleven,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: twelve touchdowns thirteen and then Kirk will have what do
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: you have last year?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Touchdown wise, Let's see Christian Kirk at eight.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll get in that ballpark eight nine, ten, So.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: I think I mean trivers have more touchdown passes this year, correct.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna throw thirty five to thirty eight,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: maybe thirty eight, something like that, thirty seven, So spread
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: those around. You get ten eleven, twelve to Ridley, you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: get eight nine, ten to Kirk. Now you're at twenty ish.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: Then you get Ingram will catch how many did he
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: catch last year? He'll be better.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: So had four, he had four and it took him
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: You'll have those. He'll have seven this year. So now
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: you're at twenty seven or twenty z Yeah, now you're
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: at thirty one. Backs will have a couple, you know,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you might throw one to the one or
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: two to the backup tight end when he gets free.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: So you're talking to and you can have a couple, right,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: So you're gonna have thirty six thirty seven touchdown passes.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Next question at Trevorville, Pete, why is Peter King copying you?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: When was the last time he favored the Jaguars to
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: be the number one seed?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: You know, our good buddy Mark Long sent me a
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: thing where they asked a luacon I guess about Peter
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: King picking them to have the number one seed, and
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: Jean Furnett asked the question, I picked him to go
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: to the damn Super Bowl. Jean, and Peter King got
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: that idea for me when I was standing on Like
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: you can read the story, I was standing on the
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: sideline with Peter King at Green Bay, and I said,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville schedule is favorable to be the one seed. They
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: will be the one seed, just like I.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: Said, Peter. It sounds like you, uh, Gene from Gene
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: Furnette believes that Peter King's just a bigger deal than you,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: and he's gonna name drop Peter King and not Pete Prisco.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: You're kind of secondary in the mind of Gene Frenette.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Sounds like mind.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: I still think he thinks I'm at the Times Union.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not even sure he knows you're in the media anymore.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: Pete Jean. By the way, I saw the other day
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: Jeane celebrated forty forty two years or whatever at the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: Times Union. It was his anniversary. Who knew he started
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: when he was forty? I sent that out on Twitter.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: But media, media, media, media, crime.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: Oh always. But yeah, that's where Peter King, he wrote
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: in the column he got the idea from me. They
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: all follow my lead, Tony, they all follow my lead.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: He's a trailblazer, that Pete Prisco.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: Everyone everyone but Jean Fornette. He doesn't even know you exist.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: I mean how we've been saying it on that I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: said it on our national TV, on CBS Sports that work.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: I said it on here a bunch of different times.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: And I didn't just say they're gonna have the one seed.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: I said, they're going to the super Bowl.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: He did. I was here for it, Pete.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: Let's get a couple more in. This is from at
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: Tony Be's henchman. If the Jaguars allow more than twenty
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: one points to the rookie quarterback making his first start,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: is that cause for concern with this defense.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think. I mean, I don't think they're
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: gonna score more than twenty one. But if they do,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: as long as we win, I don't care. I mean,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: what if it's forty.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: What if it's forty to seventeen and they score late
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: touchdown or something. It just depends on how it happens.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: Is it an accident play where he scrambles around and
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: finds an open guy? If they move the ball consistently,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: that would be cause for concern.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think, Pete, and you know this will be
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: like this on Monday. It's overreaction Monday after week watch yep.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: Always.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: I think you can't make any proclamations after week one. No,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: you gotta get through two or three weeks of the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: NFL season before you really know what's what and who's who.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: So I would not make any judgments regardless of what
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: happens against the Colts.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: Well they lost, you can start making the judgments, you
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: know what I mean?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: One final question, this is from att Reno High Tower
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: twenty one. Did Pete stay up late to watch his
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: sun devils in the Haboob storm.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: A.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: I don't have the pack twelve network because it's like
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: this network that nobody gets. And b that game supposedly
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: didn't get over till like four o'clock in the morning
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: on the east or three o'clock in the morning on
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: the East coast because of the two and a half
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: hour delay, and they were winning big. The delay happened
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: and they barely beat Southern Utah, which tells me it's
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: gonna be another garbage year in Tempee.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Imagine how about this, Pete.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: There's only one conference in the entire country that is
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: undefeated after two weeks of college football, and that is
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: the soon to be dismantle.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: There's one conference that will not exist next year. You
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: gotta get it in while you can.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: I guess well, you know what, they can score. Everybody
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: in that conference can score a boatload of points too.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: The quarterbacks can can throw it around. I mean, you
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: think about it. You got the kid at Pennix at Washington,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: you got DJ the transferred from Clemson and Oregon State.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: You got your guy at USC bo Nix at Oregon.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: My guy is the best player in college football without
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: a doubt.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: In the hess question. Yeah, a lot of quarterbacks will
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: be drafted out of that conference this year.
• 1:29:37
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• 1:31:09
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• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: and it's gonna be probably one hundred and forty degrees
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: in that place, hope. So well, that's good, I mean,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: because you know, the Chiefs haven't practice. I mean, it's
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: been hot around the country, but it hasn't been like
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: it's in Jacksonville. I can tell you that right now.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: It is hot everywhere.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes, yeah, but there's a different Believe me,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: I live in South Florida. Coming to Jacksonville for training camp.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: It's so much hotter, it really is.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: You know, it was not hot was Detroit. Detroit was beautiful.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: It was perfect weather up there was in the seventies
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: it was like fifty three in the morning and then
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: like yeah, seventy eight or something.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: It was. It was just perfect weather. Just a perfect
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: summer day in Detroit, Michigan.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: So, and I'm sure Kansas City got a lot of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: days like that in training camp or.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: Some Anyways, Dalla cooling off the other day. Dallas was
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: down to ninety nine degrees the other.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: Day, Tony. When you used to play early season games
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: at the at the stadium and teams would come from
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: the North or maybe Pittsburgh, you played them early, could
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: you tell, Yeah.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: Especially if you're running the ball getting after him. I mean,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: but again, Pete, again, it goes back to training camp
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: was different. Back then. We had two days.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: We had to practice in the morning, we had to
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: practice in the heat of the afternoon, full pads, going
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: at it.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: You know, these guys had some hot days, but they
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: also practiced in the morning a lot, and they you know,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: use the indoor facility at times later in camp and
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: his camp broke. So, I mean, I still think it
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: is an advantage because you're just used to it, living
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: in it day in and day out. But I don't
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: think it's probably quite the advantage it once was, just
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: because of the way practice is done.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: I heard Logoman say the other day on I Forget
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was on the air here. But he said
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: that when he was with the Jets, if they had
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: to go play Miami early in the year, he preferred
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: that because he was used to the summer and the heat,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: whereas if they went and played him later in the year,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: they weren't. Even it was cooler in South Florida, they
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: weren't used to it because of the way the conditions
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: were up in New York for the Jet. You know
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: the weather up there, so I would imagine that's not
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: the case when it's that hot, though.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Pete, I'll tell you, I think every guy's different.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: The weather ever bothered me, whether it got hot cold,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: it just never.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: It never impacted me as a player.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: But the only time I felt impacted on the road
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: was for the first for you know, one or two
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: series in Denver at mile high getting used to the altitude.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: But then once the game got going, you were fine.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: But I always remember early in those games like I'm like,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: got late, I got to catch my wind. But then
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: you just your body and justin just play.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: It's funny, but you know, I lived there for a year,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: like kind of like you did. What I mean, I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: was only there for a year, but I remember when
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: I first moved out there, I went and played basketball
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: with somebody. I was like, I'm like, I used to this,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: and you do. You eventually get you settled down, like
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: within the ten minute period, and you get used to it.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: But I see, I couldn't. I hate the cold. I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: despised the cold, and so if I had to play
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: in the cold, yeah, you get used to it, I think,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: But what's tougher to play in the cold or the heat?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: It neither bothered me. I'd probably prefer to play in
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: the heat.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, even though I grew up in Colorado, just
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: because I mean, I wore the same thing, right sleeves,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, so, I mean it just never Now as
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: an old man, I hate the cold now. It really
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: bothers me now, But as a player, it never did.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: And part of it was.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: Because I I think it's a mindset.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: A lot of times, like I'd go in and just
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: say I refuse to let this bother me, Like I'm
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: not going to let it impact me. And that's one
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: of the reasons. That's one of the reasons I just
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: dressed the same way every time. I'm just gonna go
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: play football.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: Like you think about it. I went to high school
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: in South Florida. I went to college at Arizona. You
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: see a pattern there. I live in South Florida, and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: the pattern I run to the heat. I hate the cold,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: and I've been involved in some of the cold I've
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: been around some of the coldest NFL games there's ever been.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: You're your game against New England was brutal in the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: playoff game that year, I was in the one. And
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: when the Titans played the Patriots in New England one
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: year in the New Stadium, it was terrible. As a
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: night game. It was freezing. Coughlin's game at Green Bay.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: I was at that game. That was brutal.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: Can't stand the cold.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: Well. Remember a couple of years ago, we were in
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: Kansas City for the AFC title game together and you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: had I was making fun of you because I was
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: sitting in the booth and you had to go outside
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: and do your hit and I was, yeah, fun, buddy.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I was there the week before and I
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: think you were too, But it wasn't. It was snowing
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: the week before, but it won that cold, but the
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: next next week it was just freezing. You're right, I
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: forgot about that one brutal.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The only I mean, like the only thing that
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: impacted me on the cold Pete, Like I remember you
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: brought up the New England game. I remember, like the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: first pass pro in that AFC title game, my hands
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: were so cold, like hurt to punch. But after the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: first punch it was like, okay, non fine. And then
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: if you remember, the power went out and we sat
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: around for fifteen minutes and I got cold again, and
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: then that first series back, You're like, Okay, I got it.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to get out and just hit somebody
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: in the first time, to just get all the just
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: get that first sting out of the body. Because after
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: that it was just it was football.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: Hey, JP, since we're up, we're up against it. We
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: didn't get Tony's prediction on the season.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Yet I thought we had.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did.
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  Speaker 5: I said, eleven, eleven and six and win a division
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  Speaker 5: and then what.
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  Speaker 4: Going to the AFC Title Game?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so I got him going thirteen. I am winning
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  Speaker 5: thirteen games going to the Super Bowl and not winning it.
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  Speaker 1: Who are they going to play in the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 5: The Niners?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 5: Well, think about the Niners. They have four games against
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  Speaker 5: the Rams and the Cardinals. That's the advantage, and both
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  Speaker 5: teams have major advantages in their divisions.
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  Speaker 4: A Pete is the boat still going to get done?
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  Speaker 5: He'll he'll show up. I mean get the buses always don't.
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  Speaker 5: They always hang out for a while, didn Joey, Joey?
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  Speaker 4: I mean this week? You have you heard rumors of
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  Speaker 4: the possible trade.
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  Speaker 5: The not trading. No way, you don't trade a guy
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  Speaker 5: like that. I don't care what you get for him,
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  Speaker 5: you don't trade it.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now. If they we're going to
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  Speaker 4: trade him, I can give him too. If I'm the
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  Speaker 4: Jags giving two first rounders and take that cat right now.
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  Speaker 5: Hell yeah, yeah. I don't think twist rounders would get
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  Speaker 5: it done, though.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what do you want two first rounders? What else
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  Speaker 4: do you want? That's how good he is.
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  Speaker 5: I agree, you don't trade him, JP. What about your pick, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: Twelve?
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  Speaker 5: Wow? He went right between us.
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  Speaker 3: Twelve wins, right in the middle, right in the sweet spot,
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  Speaker 3: right there, twelve wins, division champs, and they may I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they'll get the number one seed with twelve wins.
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  Speaker 4: How far the playoffs they go.
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  Speaker 3: I think if they're not the one seed, I think
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  Speaker 3: they'll get to the to the AFC Championship game. I
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  Speaker 3: think they'll make a little run.
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  Speaker 5: Get the one seed. If they don't get the one
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  Speaker 5: seed with twelve, who's getting the one seed?
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  Speaker 1: Whoever beats whatever one of those teams beats them, right, Bill's.
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  Speaker 5: Will get peace. Look, okay, but look at the This
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  Speaker 5: is why it's You look at the AFC East, they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna beat each other up. You look at the AFC North,
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna beat each other up. And you look at
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: West Kansas City schedules brutal. Not only have they play
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: the Chargers in that division, and if Jacksonville beats them
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  Speaker 5: in week two, there you go. There's your home field advantage.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 6: I think defensively, with no Chris Jones, the Chiefs have
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: some issues early.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope that doesn't get resolved.
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  Speaker 5: H I bet he shows up soon though they'll pay him.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta have the game. Same with Bosa. You gotta
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  Speaker 5: have the game rerecord. Ton You just talked about it.
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  Speaker 5: If those two are game wrecords.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, what do you guys like? Thursday night?
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  Speaker 5: In the kickoff game, Lions haven't learned how to win yet,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 6: I'm rooting hard for the Lions. I think it's a
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  Speaker 6: close game.
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  Speaker 5: Though, Why are you rooting hard for just so the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: Chiefs lose a game? Now success as the offense has success,
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  Speaker 5: and he's considered that a plus for him.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, I'm rooting for my guy, Pete.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to.
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  Speaker 6: I wanted to have a good offensive day and get
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  Speaker 6: a win.
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  Speaker 4: He'll be. It's good for him.
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  Speaker 5: He's got He's done a really good job with Jared Goff.
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  Speaker 5: I'll give him that much, I think mark.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, Happy Labor Day, enjoy the beach, Tony
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  Speaker 1: and Pete. I suppose I'm not at the beach.
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  Speaker 5: I'm working. I'm back at work.
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