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Liz Ellis Addresses the Player Pay Debate, Netball’s Olympic Push & Our Worst Habits · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Well, in the words of rock set our nineteen eighties
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  Speaker 1: music reference, obviously, I'm going to get dressed for success,
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  Speaker 1: shaping me up for the big time. Baby, get dressed
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  Speaker 1: for success, shaping it up for your love. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing is if you are the Diamonds, you can
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  Speaker 1: go and court in a sumo suit and you're still
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  Speaker 1: going to play out of your mind. So I got
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  Speaker 1: a lot to talk about this week. You're on No Dribble.
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  Speaker 1: Strap in. Hello, and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast
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  Speaker 1: where we talk about netball, we talk about so much more.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox, and I'm lozellas Hi.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, yeay can now. I just want to quickly congratulate
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  Speaker 3: Carolyn Swindle because we've had like half an hour forty
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  Speaker 3: five minutes of technical issues and she did not lose
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  Speaker 3: her shit and swear even one time I was waiting
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  Speaker 3: for it.
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  Speaker 1: I did, Wow, I did once.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I think I missed it. Well done.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you had headphones on that weren't working and
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  Speaker 1: I set it through a microphone.
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  Speaker 3: That was a level of restraint I've never seen before.
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  Speaker 1: Shank you. You know, this is what the grown ups
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  Speaker 1: do sometimes we are.
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  Speaker 2: Well, do you know what I got to say? My
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  Speaker 2: kids absolutely roasted me this week in front of my mother,
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  Speaker 2: and they told my mum what a potty mouth I have.
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  Speaker 2: And I hardly have a potty mouth at all. In
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  Speaker 2: front of them, I think I'm so much worse away
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  Speaker 2: from them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but how did you reply to that?
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  Speaker 2: I might have used it. No, I'm not gone to
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  Speaker 2: I'm a grown up Catherine, and my mom might listening
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  Speaker 2: with podcasts, and I'm nervous about what she would say.
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  Speaker 2: I remember I said shit once on television and she
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  Speaker 2: absolutely taught me a new one. But it wasn't anywhere
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  Speaker 2: near as bad as a new one that my grandmother,
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  Speaker 2: Bridey or bride before she died, tore me for swearing
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  Speaker 2: on television. So I'm way too scared. So no, I
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  Speaker 2: might have dropped their fire and finished it with off
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  Speaker 2: and my mum NELLI walked out the room and the
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  Speaker 2: kids are just fell over laughing because I'm like, you
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  Speaker 2: can swear if it's funny, but I don't let teaching children.
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  Speaker 1: There's something that I keep seeing on the Internet of
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  Speaker 1: people like putting up people's funny crimes, so like a
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  Speaker 1: woman got arrested for sending a mariachi band on her
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  Speaker 1: ex's first date with someone new, and people were saying,
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  Speaker 1: is it really a crime if it's inherently funny?
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly I tend to agree with that. Let
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  Speaker 3: me tell you another one. So a mate of ours
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  Speaker 3: who shall can I speak, a mate of ours who
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  Speaker 3: shall remain nameless, that's hard to say, found out about
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  Speaker 3: somebody dating somebody else that shouldn't be dating that other person,
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  Speaker 3: and also found out that they were taking a little
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  Speaker 3: trip together. So she rang quantsil whoever it was, and
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  Speaker 3: ordered them a kosher meal.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, she got that, right, she had for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: she had their frequent Flyer points and she knew them
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  Speaker 2: well enough to guess the password, and so she got
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  Speaker 2: in and didn't you change like flights home, and that's
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  Speaker 2: changed everything.
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  Speaker 3: I think might have separated them on the plane and
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  Speaker 3: this is a long haul flight, but ordered them the
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  Speaker 3: kosher meals as well as like, well played, I'm never
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  Speaker 3: going to fuck with you. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: That's so good. Oh that's just too funny, I know.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, like we're swearing, you know when your
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  Speaker 2: kids swear, and you and they're little, and you'll and
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to laugh because it's like, no, that's
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  Speaker 2: not the proper way to speak, that's not how you speak.
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  Speaker 2: Any eight where did they hear it? And then a
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  Speaker 2: little part of you is proud because it's actually a
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  Speaker 2: sign of intelligence if they swear in context, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: when they're little, when they're really little. I'm like, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: You said the fbom them right the right moment, and
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  Speaker 2: it was funny. So four marks for you, but in
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  Speaker 2: what's coming out your mouth is, oh, darling, that's not
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  Speaker 2: how we speak.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah. One of my fos on social media is
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  Speaker 3: a man. So it's you know doorbell cams that seem
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  Speaker 3: to catch absolutely I love them. So it's a father
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  Speaker 3: coming home with his daughter and she must be two
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  Speaker 3: or three at best, and they're opening the front door
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  Speaker 3: about to go in, and she's like, fuck it's cold.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's just.
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  Speaker 2: So great when it's so funny, I reckon, yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: I think, Catherine, you did, I know you want to
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  Speaker 2: get to this, so we might just go there now.
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  Speaker 2: You did ask us what our worst habits were, and
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  Speaker 2: probably having a potty mouth at different times is my
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  Speaker 2: worst habit.
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  Speaker 3: Right mine. I realized that that's so boring it is.
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  Speaker 2: I'll bring them. I'm trying to get, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: is my segree into Catherine's chap.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think now the time is the time. But
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  Speaker 1: I will say I did think about that. I swear
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  Speaker 1: too much. That's my worst habit. But it's like, well
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  Speaker 1: everyone knows that. Like that's so, I'm hoping you've brought
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  Speaker 1: something else I have.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, mine is mine is just stupid and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why I continue to do it so clearly
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  Speaker 3: it's become are you.
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  Speaker 1: Going to say something laying here like, oh, my worst
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  Speaker 1: habit is I'm just too generous to people, Or my
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  Speaker 1: worst habit is I'm just too pretty? Like are you
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  Speaker 1: going to be saying something perfection?
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  Speaker 2: Having it always early and waiting for my friends and
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  Speaker 2: so I ordered food before.
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  Speaker 1: They get to much about other people.
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  Speaker 3: That's your worst habits are being little beaches to me?
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  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to get habits get each other off.
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  Speaker 2: But we're taking the.
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  Speaker 1: Piece out of job interview technique. What what are your weaknesses?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I just work too hard. I just worried too much
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  Speaker 1: about doing an excellent job.
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  Speaker 3: Have you met behind to say you wouldn't, would you
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  Speaker 3: if somebody actually said, oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You just you would go we can never work together because.
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  Speaker 2: You're not fun fun exactly. If you're not funny, you're
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  Speaker 2: not hired fair enough, true color. Why were you interested
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  Speaker 2: in our in our worst habits or thinking about it?
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  Speaker 3: Stupid stupid thing that has become a habit obviously because
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  Speaker 3: I do it every day. I have a drinking problem.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not the drinking you're thinking straight away, but
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  Speaker 3: every morning I make myself a cup of tea. I
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  Speaker 3: cannot fill it a little way from the top. I
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  Speaker 3: feel it to the brim, to the point that I
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  Speaker 3: have to bend over and slurp. Why I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: And don't suggest to get a bigger cup, because I
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  Speaker 3: have done that. The bigger the cup, the more I
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  Speaker 3: will fill it up to the brim every single time.
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  Speaker 1: So is this that you fill it with the hot
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  Speaker 1: water and then you go, oh, I haven't left enough
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  Speaker 1: frame for the milk, and then or no, I.
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  Speaker 3: Will fill it like this far with the hot water
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  Speaker 3: from the top, and then I'll try and get the
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  Speaker 3: milk in it without it spilling over the top. But
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  Speaker 3: I kid you not, I reckon. There's one time out
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  Speaker 3: of the last four months that I haven't had to
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  Speaker 3: bend over and slurp the top of it before I
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  Speaker 3: can even pick it up. Why do I do that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But I thought you'd Actually, I thought
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  Speaker 2: you'd bring a reasonably good bad habit to this chat,
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  Speaker 2: like your habit of inhaling condensed milk tubes when you're
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  Speaker 2: getting fame at three am. That's a much better habit.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's because I don't do that anymore, Elizabeth. I'm
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  Speaker 3: far more sensible these days, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I am, because it is. I would have thought that
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  Speaker 1: you might learn from it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I bought bigger caps, yet I will still
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  Speaker 3: do it. Is something scared fundamentally wrong with me?
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  Speaker 2: Are you scared you to miss out because you do
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  Speaker 2: have fun?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I'm greedy? Is that what it is? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: But slurping. I would have to leave it ages to
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  Speaker 1: slurp it from the top thing.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the other thing. I burn my tongue nearly
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  Speaker 3: every morning like a goldfish running into the side of
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  Speaker 3: the tank, isn't it. Are you going to learn your
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  Speaker 3: lesson at any point?
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  Speaker 1: Tune into no Dribble for life advice.
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  Speaker 2: Do you look up bewildered every morning? Go how did
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  Speaker 2: that happen? How did that happen? How did that happen?
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  Speaker 2: Forties haven't had it? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: God, mine is so. Mine's a little, a dirty little
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  Speaker 1: secret that I have. Oh I love dtor pimple popper,
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  Speaker 1: Oh so do I. And it relates to if I
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  Speaker 1: get anything on my face, I cannot leave it alone.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, quite regularly I'll go on stage with
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  Speaker 1: something that's bleeding because I was just picking it before.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I'll just fix that, and then suddenly it's
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  Speaker 1: like it's like you are an idiot, Carolyn. So I
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  Speaker 1: just even in that situation where it's like, do you.
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  Speaker 3: Know have you seen the little vacuums. It's like a
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  Speaker 3: like a tiny little tube. It's little vacuum. It's meant
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  Speaker 3: to suck them out.
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  Speaker 2: What what my blackheads? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Or whatever? Dear little whatever's going on on your face? Oh? Wow?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know my son? My son has little black
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  Speaker 2: heads on his leg And I hadn't even thought about
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  Speaker 2: this as a bad habit or my dirty secret. But
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  Speaker 2: if he's had a really good day, he sleeps really
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  Speaker 2: deeply and sometimes I just sneaking at night and squeeze
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  Speaker 2: it because.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Liz wins, that's that's weird. How many times work like.
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  Speaker 2: If his legs out, I'll go and check them and
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  Speaker 2: make sure they're okay, and of like, oh, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I could just get it, get.
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  Speaker 1: To get like a head torch out, like a like
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  Speaker 1: a beautician slamp, And.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't do it anymore because now
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  Speaker 2: I just do it while we're watching television, and mate,
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  Speaker 2: could I just do too? And it's like, oh, okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: that's far more information than I should divulge.
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  Speaker 3: Oh dear, that started well, didn't I?
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  Speaker 1: And that's not even your bad habit? Like, so, what
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  Speaker 1: brat bad habit did you bring to this conversation?
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  Speaker 2: It's boring now by comparison, Oh my mad habit is it?
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  Speaker 2: And it's probably you do it just sort of think
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  Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. I've got lots of bad when you
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  Speaker 2: do think I'm an idiot, I've got lots of bad habits.
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  Speaker 2: I'm perennially late for everything.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't mind that in my old age least,
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  Speaker 3: because if we're meeting up old, just order a wine
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  Speaker 3: and sit there quite comfortably in mindful, you have.
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  Speaker 1: A few moments to yourself.
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  Speaker 2: That's no, that's true. Yeah, anyway, what else The habit
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  Speaker 2: that drives my husband insane, particularly when we're traveling, is
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  Speaker 2: that I like to be thinking four to five meals ahead,
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  Speaker 2: so I know what to have for this meal. So
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  Speaker 2: if we're sitting down for breakfast, I'm like, well, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know whether to order a big breakfast because what
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have a big lunch, We're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: a light lunch, or we're going to go out and
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  Speaker 2: have a really late dinner. And then so that means
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  Speaker 2: if we have a really late dinner tonight, this is
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  Speaker 2: before we had kids, then like I won't want an
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  Speaker 2: early meal the next morning. So maybe I should have
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  Speaker 2: a big meal now, because like I'm always thinking, I
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  Speaker 2: can't just spontaneously go and you know, sit down and
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  Speaker 2: let's just order what you feel like. I'm like, oh god,
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  Speaker 2: I think that fifteen meals ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously with kids it's even worse. So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: It's im boring.
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  Speaker 1: I am exactly the same though, and it does like
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  Speaker 1: or I'm not even it's sometimes it's for the same reasons,
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  Speaker 1: but It's also like if we're here and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: what am I going to do for lunch table or
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  Speaker 1: go to the shops or whatever else, I cannot think
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  Speaker 1: about the next meal while I am eating this meal.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like I can. I can think about the
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  Speaker 1: next six meals while I'm eating this meal. But he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like my mother does it too, and my stepfather
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  Speaker 1: is also not a fan. It's like, can we just
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  Speaker 1: be here now? It's like, well, if your brain can't
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  Speaker 1: deal with two parallel thoughts, yes, we can just have
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  Speaker 1: this sandwich. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's why that.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's such a bad habit.
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  Speaker 1: I think, and I think the being perennially late thing, Liz,
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  Speaker 1: is it just because you're trying to I'll just squeeze
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  Speaker 1: this one thing in just before There's so many things
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  Speaker 1: that you.
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  Speaker 2: Have to do.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm always and I'm not, frankly.
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  Speaker 1: Just sitting there thinking your.
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  Speaker 3: Next cup of tea.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to find you a cup that has some
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  Speaker 1: little lines. You know, when you go to the park,
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  Speaker 1: they stop me.
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  Speaker 3: If the top of the cup doesn't stop me, lines
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  Speaker 3: not going to stop me.
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  Speaker 1: Could you imagine that it's offside if you go over
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  Speaker 1: a line, like I feel like this is something you've
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  Speaker 1: done quite successfully in other parts of your life. Is
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  Speaker 1: go that is the limit of where I can go,
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  Speaker 1: And if I go over that, that's not good. I
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  Speaker 1: will lose the ball. So maybe that you should just
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: consider it like a little netball court.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like Catherine has never ran that fast. She never
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  Speaker 2: got close to the off side line one time, and
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  Speaker 2: you got a lot I ran into. Now that's a lie.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you play gol attack, Catherine.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you run into the middle of the court
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  Speaker 1: because you'd been playing attack.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why, but for whatever reason, I just
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: tootled in there. And then all of New Zealand pointed
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  Speaker 3: and laughed, and I thought, okay, I'll just tootle.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: Who was it in the Super Netbles? It was it
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  Speaker 1: Sunday ariang At a ruth ariyang at one in one
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  Speaker 1: game ran into the gold circle and.
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  Speaker 2: Did it last year. But the problem is, like both times,
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  Speaker 2: I think, I don't know if you were commentating from
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  Speaker 2: both times, the commentators missed it could because you're so
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  Speaker 2: focused on the game. Yeah that Like have you seen
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  Speaker 2: those videos? You know? And they show up conferences where
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  Speaker 2: they like, They go, okay, I want you to count
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  Speaker 2: all the people wearing blue shirts, and they'll show you
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  Speaker 2: a whole room of people wearing all different colored shirts,
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  Speaker 2: and you really focus on because you want to win
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  Speaker 2: the prize to meet there. You go, this is my
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  Speaker 2: bad habit. I'm way too competitive, and so I'll be like,
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  Speaker 2: look and I did it once and they go, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to show it again. Did you say the
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  Speaker 2: gorilla walking through? Saw the gorilla? Are you wanted the
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  Speaker 2: second time? You like, big gorilla person in the gorilla
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  Speaker 2: suit walks through and.
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  Speaker 1: Just like they walk right into the center of things,
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  Speaker 1: and you're so busy focusing on the blue shirts? How
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  Speaker 1: many they're moving around? Have I counted that one?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what's funny? I reckon I would have
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  Speaker 3: noticed the gorilla forgot.
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  Speaker 2: To kill the shirts. And that's why we're friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, combination. We've talked about a lot and taken
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: up some time here. But the school.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Reunion, I need to know high school reunit. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: I had a great weekend, I will say though, flying
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  Speaker 1: back last night and my flight being delayed and getting
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: in quite late, and I ended up in a middle
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  Speaker 1: seat which was fine because I thought, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to go to sleep anyway, so I just tucked myself
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: in and closed my eyes. The woman next to me
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: jigged her leg the whole way from Brisbane to Sydney,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: just jigged it. And I was at a point where
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  Speaker 1: I'm pulling the hood over my head because it's like
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  Speaker 1: I could see it. It was out in my peripheral
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  Speaker 1: vision and it's like, honey, I've had no sleep. I'm
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: so I'm so tired, and I'm focusing on she was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like she was vibrating the seat or anything,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: but it's like to kick it.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: So do you remember Gordy saying that she gets irrationally
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: mad about certain things. You can't let it go and
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  Speaker 3: there you go right there bang.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But no, it was great. I flew up early
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and I flew early because I changed my
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: flight to make it earlier because we had so many
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: dribblers caught up with flight cancelations and things for our
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Grand Final Eve function and my mate couldn't get down
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: from Canber so I thought, and I got to go.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be in one of the early flights
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: of the day. I'm sitting on the flight, and in
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  Speaker 1: that one I was by the window and there was
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a woman sitting next to me and their husband was
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the row in front of her, and they bring the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: tea and coffee cart down and he says, do you
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: want a bolter? And they both had a beer at
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  Speaker 1: eight o'clock in the morning, and I said, well, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: You're on holidays. I don't know I would go for
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  Speaker 3: a bolter though, no choice. Cheers.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no. The school reunion was fabulous. I had
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: such a good time. They're about about half the year came,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: which was wonderful and everyone was was in good spirits.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: It was a great venue. And in fact that I'm
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: talking to my friend from school who owns the venue,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and she did yet my husband's friends with Liz and Kat.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: He's one of the biggest party people I have ever
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: met in my life. Yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So he sent me a message and said they were
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: listening to the podcast and that your there's your school reunion.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: That you went to school with his wife and so
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: you know, Matthew and him played football together for three
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: hundred years.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well he was very responsible on Saturday night,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: he's such a great public twenty old twenty year olds
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: trying to get in because they have this special membership
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that at this hour on a Saturday night they have
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: seven dollars odd because if you're a member, so obviously
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, oh my.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: God, sorry, can you remember an now date with dollar drinks? Yeah? Yeah,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: seven dollard because and they get excited about that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Do you remember ladies drink free? As a feminist, I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: really object to it, but as a poor student it
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: was excellent. But anyway, so there were a lot of
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: very young, very poorly dressed for a cold winters night.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I thought, young people, they're queue up to get in,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and he looked stressed. He was not partying then. He
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: was very much the responsible licensee making sure everything was
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: under control. But no, the reunion was great, you know,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: sadly since last time we had a reunion one of
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: our classmates died of ovarian cancer. There's another one who
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: is doing it really tough with breast cancer at the moment.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So we had a really nice little toast to them.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: But it just interesting, you know, you go around the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: room and everybody, you know, there's the elderly parents crunch,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the kids, the whole Everyone has got shit going on
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: in their lives and it was really nice to just
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: stop for a few hours and just have a chat
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and go. It was simpler when we were together. You know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: we were seventeen last time we were a cohort. But
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it was you know, we had people came from Papua
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: New Guinea, from a poor I came from Sydney, even
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of people from from far north Queensland.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And it was just it was it was really nice
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and really fun. And yeah, and I caught up with
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: some I tried to talk to everyone. The person we
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: talked about last week was there, and yeah, well you
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: know what, I just said hi from a sort of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: distance and smiled, and I thought, that's all the time
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I'm giving this. There's sixty people here who I want.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You want to to ask her what a problem was?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Well she was very busy at the photo booth all
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: night anyway. So but it is funny now there's all
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: these photos popping up, people in the photo booths and
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: just other people's photos, and you go that four people
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: would never have had a conversation at high school. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: if you told them that at some stage in the future,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the four of them would have a conversation and be
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: smiling together in a photo. They would go It would
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: never happen, but you know, so fortunately for everyone, possibly
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: even this woman.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk to her. All of those ridiculous little
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: tribes and things have have fallen apart. But it was great.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I have two questions. Yeah, did you sing the school song?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, we sang the school hymn. We also did a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: bit of That's what Friends Are For, because that's not
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: we sang at our year twelve leaving ceremonyal thing the.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: End of the road by no, not that one boys
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to man?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it?
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: The road wirl? Don't don't know that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: The rest of that was pretty good though, Yeah, that's beautiful.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I think ours was. Am I ever going to see you?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Per no way? Did that version of it? And also
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: did your captain speak school captain? Did you make No?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: She got away with not speaking. Linda who organized it?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: And Melinda is this she is? She's the coroner like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: she was. She's just retired, but retired, which is a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: ridiculous age to retire. But she couldn't go and do
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: other stuff. But like she has this uber career and amazing.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of people I talked to during
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the night and I said, I talked to my kids
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: about you all the time. So Melinda's one of them.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: When she left high school, she had quite a poor
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it was called a tee score, so she had so
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: nine ninety was the high. She got seven fifteen or
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: something like that, and she went into nursing for a while,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but then later on went back and did a law
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: degree and then became a barrister and then like the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: coroner so is which is in Queensland. I don't know
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: what it's like everyone else, but certainly this role is
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a legal review role, so it's not a medical examiner
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: type thing. But you know, at school, she was not academic.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: She was never going to be the legal superstar. There's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: another woman who is exactly the same who's now an
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: associate professor at the University of Queensland working like energy policy.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And you know, so high school it's a step. It's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a step. It's not a permanent thing or whatever. But yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it's just I had I had so much fun. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: did one shot, which was one more than I thought
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I was going to When I was in my uber
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: on the way there. I'm like, your measure for success
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: will be to not do shots tonight.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: So what was the shot of choice? Though it's important tequila?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: That wasn't my choice.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Just a tequila yeah, yeah, just straight too. Yeah, I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: would have liked. You know what what we have rebranded
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a Helen Ready and we sing iron Woman, but other
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: people might know it as a cocksack and cowboy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Oh they're good? Is that the Scotch snaps?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I can Bailey, yes's got the two. My friend a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: long time ago, her son was marrying someone he didn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: she didn't really love, and she was very upset. They
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: were going to have cocksucking cowboys on the bridle tab
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But no, it was good. And yeah, no, I didn't
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: have a fist fight with anyone, which is good. No
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: one had a fist fight as far as I could see.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: There was one girl who left our school early, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I remember that she did have a fist fight with
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: another girl and they didn't talk much. But that was
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: during high school. That was back in the eighties.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I was with.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: There were fists, but it was like it was a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: physical fight. What do you mean you're going to hit
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: each other just just be mean to one another until
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: someone gets an eating disorder. That's that's a Seinfeld joke.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I just stopped. That's not a no. Driple recommends it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Driple recommends no. That's Elaine used to. Elaine said that, Okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: so we should there's there's I don't know, there's a
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: lot of network going on. We should have a little
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: break and then come back and talk about some knitball
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: welcome back. There's so much to talk about in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: netball world at the moment, and over this episode today
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: being Wednesday and Friday's episode, we're going to be talking
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: about the commonalth games. We're going to talk a bit
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: about New Zealand, We're going to talk about coin tosses
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and nails getting done. But Liz, there's some other stuff
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: going on closer to home.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Look, big weekend of news for our sport, and some
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: good stuff that I do want to get to is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the fact that there was some great Olympic sort of
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: announcements on the weekend from north of the border. I mean,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it's a coincidence that you're in Queensland
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and then there were some good things happening in Queensland.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: The Diamonds took a couple of huge steps towards Commonwealth
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Games goal in the last few nights, but unfortunately some
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: details of the CPA negotiations did leak into the public
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: arena and we're in the press on the weekend, which,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: as you both know, I did think actually long and
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: hard about coming on to the show today and whether
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it was the right thing to do given my role
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: as chair of Netball Australia. But I did feel like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: there was a bit of an underlying assumption that Netball
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Australia has the money but doesn't want to pay the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: players what they're worth, and I just want to say
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that categorically that's not the case. We've actually invested really
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: heavily in the last sort of six to twelve months
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: our commercial team so that we can capitalize on our
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Channel nine deal, which is the biggest free toware footprint
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that netball has ever had, and so we're able to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: land that deal and it provides us with enormous opportunity
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: over the next five years. So there is an absolute
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: laser like focus to make our players the best paid
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: female athletes in this country, and that is a huge
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: ask given that we are sisters doing it for ourselves right.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We don't have the big brother sport that perhaps other
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: female codes might have, so we've got to be more
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: resourceful and more resilient than others. But the decision has
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: been taken to in in that and so we really
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: want to get our athletes back to being not only
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: having the best pay but the best conditions. And it's
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: still an aspiration, it's not yet backed by money, but
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we've got a strategy in place that we're confident in
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: over the next couple of years that will pay dividends
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: for the players. And I've got to say personally, the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: suggestion that netball Australia is splashing money on employee expenses
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and executive pay while starting players of a pay rise
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: is actually quite offensive And I just want to provide
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a statistic that I think is interesting. So the Australian
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Sports Commission provides reporting to sports on where they sit
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: compared to other sports of similar revenue around a lot
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of different statistics, and netb All Australia is sitting at
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the second lowest for employee spend of any sport in
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: a comparable revenue stream in Australia. And that's despite the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: fact that we've got a professional competition, right, So netb
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: All Australia runs lane and that doesn't mean we get
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: everything right, but we do run really lane. And the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: other piece that I thought I just wanted to say
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: was that, like Catherine, you and I were one of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a large group of players who set up the Players
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Association back in two thousand and five. And when I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: was part of that group, I actually was threatened with
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: being stripped of the Diamonds captaincy. But I really believed
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: in the players having the right to seek the best
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: conditions and pay that they could. So it's just fanciful
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to think that a board that I'd chair would try
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to somehow short change the players. And in fact, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I can, you know, we can look back at the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: last twelve months, for the last two years, the Diamonds
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: pay deal that was agreed to most recently saw the
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Diamonds get a forty percent pay increase and a historic
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: revenue sharing model that was implemented for the first time.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And as an organization, we're really proud of that that
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: we're able to do that, you know, with the Players
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Association for the Diamonds. But the fact of the matter
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: is though, that we're not yet set up for that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: in an SSN context, and we've asked the players to
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: give us a year's grace to do it now. I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: don't want to speak where the leaks reported on the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: weekend were from, but whoever did it can't have the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: players of the game's best interest at heart, because for me,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the whole reason I'm in this role is for the players,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and I firmly believe that netball can once again lead
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the way in remuneration and conditions for our athletes. But
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is that needs to be
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: done responsibly. It's not sexy, I get that, but it's
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the truth and I just wanted to get that out there.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But that's not all that's happening.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So we've had these reports on the weekend, But then
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the flip side is there's so much great stuff going
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: on that I do want us to talk about. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to talk about the Commonwealth Games
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: in a second. I know, Kathy, you've been commentating and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I think we need for me to stop talking and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: to hear your voice. But I can't tell you how
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: excited I was to pick up the paper on the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: weekend and see that the Queensland Premiere David Chris A.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Fooley has nominated or picked out three sports that an
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: he says, has said publicly he wants to see these
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: three sports appear in the twenty thirty two Olympics and
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: they are surf, life saving, cricket and netfall. Like how
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ranged that? So yeah, So like I had this amazing
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: week camera. I was really like, no, we want to
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: pay out plays more and we're trying really hard. And
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: then the flip side is that you go, there was
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: a great article in the nine newspapers about like netball
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: its history in the Commonwealth Games, and you know there
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: was I gave an interview and a number of the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: players did it gave a really good overview of the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: evolution of our sport and the Commonwealth Games. And then
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the logical part to that is that should we see
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: ourselves in the Olympics in twenty thirty two, I suspect
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: we will absolutely be able to show the Olympic family
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the value of our sport. So I was so boyed
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to go, you know what, there's actually all this great
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: stuff happening at the moment, and I really want to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: focus on that and get that done. So AnyWho looks
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that's just a little bit of background, and you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I just I am so buoyant about the future of
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: our sport and so confident. So I'm just hoping that
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: we can get this current pay deal but put to
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: bed pretty quickly and get on with things.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I was so relieved to see the premiere of Queensland
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: come out and say that, because I've got to say
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I was a bit worried last week that it's like, well,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: what the hell does this do to the Olympic bid?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: If we're starting to then, as you know, I've worked
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: in a number of professional sports and this is fairly
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: standard behavior. You know, there are leaks, there are obviously
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: different people who have different interests in the light. But
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm firmly of the belief grow the pie.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Everyone can have more if the pie is bigger, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's what you know. I did ask a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: couple of questions of a few people at Netball Australia
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: last week, Liz, after I saw the article and the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: thing I could just piss me off because like the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: executive salaries thing, there was no context in there that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the reason that's grown so much is it includes Netball
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: World Cup executive salaries, which are fully funded by the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: agreements there, So like it really looks bad and without
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: having been given the context, and you know, it's always
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it's always interesting if you stop and think where did
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: this leak come from? And then think, well, what is
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that person or those person's interests in leaking this at
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that time? And I'm not you know, I'm not going
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to say anything further. Just whatever it is you see
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: in that regard in the press, whether it be about
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Netball CPA or whatever. It's like, you've got to understand
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that there are people pushing messages that are something that
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: they want and it's always smart to just go is
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this the whole story?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: But it's also a big head scratcher, isn't it, because
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: surely you're smart enough to realize that anything that plays
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: out publicly can have the potential to damage the brand.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: The brand that is trying to source big responsors and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: trying to get that money to therefore play the players.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: The players.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: It's been a big couplet, right, it's not doing the negotiations.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: We've got someone who can say, pay the players doing
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the negotiations.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: A lot of news is I don't have to do
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the ball for two more days either.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think we could just really move on
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and talk about the great things that are happening in
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: our sport at the moment.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: The Olympics stuff is just you know, funny. My mom
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: said to be something the other day. She goes, Oh,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: are you in the Olympics yet? And I said, Mom,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: let me assure you if we are in the Olympics,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you will know because I'll be drunk for a week
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and I'll, like you, i won't be able to talk sense.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, and then I've got me worrying because I'm like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: maybe she thinks I don't talk sense anyway, like maybe
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: she can't tell the difference.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: But well she thinks you swear too much, or this
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: is true, she doesn't have me as the daughter, which
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: she'd be fucking relieved about. I imagine, you know, Liz, like,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: what what is that? When does the Olympics decision get made?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Do we We don't quite know exactly the end of
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: this year, maybe early next year. There's a lot going
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: on like in that that Iic level around fit for
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: the future and ensuring the games don't get too big
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that they're affordable. There's you know, you don't have an
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: explosion of athletes sort of attending, so there's a few
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: decisions that have to be made that then will affect
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: what can be done. But just to have that endorsement
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: from the Queensland premiere it is.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Just phenomenal, so unreal.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: But you know, the great thing is it's not just
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: being in the Olympics. It's the fact that if it happens,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: there's a possibility and I think this was mentioned in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the story that the outcome is for netball is that
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you know, this arena where the Firebirds play gets an
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: upgrade and there can be more people coming into there,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and like it just has a massive flow and effect
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: to the sport, not only just through Queensland and particularly
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: through regional areas, which is you know where one of
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the few sports that has you know, every small town
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: community across Australia where you go to netball is there
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: right and you know the premius enter. I want a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: little girl who playing netball in Newpoo And funnily enough,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I've done some coaching clinics I think with you Catherine
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: and New Pool over the years, so yeah, I want
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: to see a little girl who plays that ball and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you and be able to look at the biggest stage
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: on earth and see that it's achievable. So he really
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: does understand the power of our sport in that regard.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, look, really good things are happening.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And that's it's crazy actually to think so that it's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: only six years and this is something that on the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: weekend at my school reunion where we're going, how is
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: forty years past? Six years goes by in an absolute heartbeat,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't it. It's just it's really it's crazy how fast
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: this is going to creep up on us. You know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the paras Olympics were on it this time two years ago,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: So that's nuts, isn't it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So well, anyway, you know it's now very exciting Monday.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have listening to you comentation.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Till we look. Oh my goodness, we are by far
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: and away the sharpest team that I have seen out
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: on court. I got to say, little gobsmacked by a
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: nineteen goal win over England yesterday, and I think I
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: put England in my top three, might have been maybe
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: bronze medalists. I don't even think they're going to make
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: the bronze medal game at this stage because Gander.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: A top of that pool, they're picked up with the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: other pool at the moments, isn't it Uganda in New
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Zealand a top of the other pool and we are
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: it's Australia.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: And South Africa. So South Africa hasn't had a loss.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: They are looking sharp and I remember Gordion saying she
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: wanted a couple of days to make a decision on
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: where she was thinking South Africa was going to finish.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I cannot wait. Thursday is when England plays South Africa.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: That one will determine who comes in second in the pool.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: What looking at South Africa at the moment far out,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: it's going to be closer. So here's a comparison. So
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Australia played Tonga obviously beat them by sixty one, so
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: it was ninety nine to thirty eight. South Africa played
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: top that it was ninety six to forty two. Not
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: two different those school lines there. So I think even
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: coming up against Australia is going to be a really
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: good battle. But I can't wait to see what happens
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: against England.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: That Australia tongue again, there was some great stuff in
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: there wasn't it. There's being Unique Polavi and Julita VeVe
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: and you know there's a number of players there who
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: are much more familiar to us now because they have
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: played in our Supernetball comp And I love this so
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: much more that I know the other teams better than
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I would have.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know the bit of a story behind the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: tongue and tongue of Talas So that team, I think
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: they were ranked like twenty third or twenty four to
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: twenty second in the world. And then there was some
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: development work that was done by Netball Australia Tongue that's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: funded by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trades, so
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: defact have worked through a number of sporting organizations to
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: develop I guess closer ties to different countries in the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: region by way of sport. So Netball does a bit
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: of that work and the Tongan team Tonga were able
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: to appoint a head coach who then went and looked
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: through the Tongan diaspora to find Togan athletes playing in
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Australia and New Zealand. That's how she picked up Palita
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Erve and Unique Plavi and put together an other players
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and so this year they've been able to play in
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Tonga for the first time ever and you know, we
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: set a junior team over there and there were some
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: games there and then. And they've also been able to
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: play in different tournaments in Australia so and you know
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: tournaments with p ANDNG and the Black Swan's our first
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Nations team. So that's really seen their development. I think
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: they're ranked number six in the world, is that right,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Well they're eighth.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Now, yes, the twenty second, but they didn't even have
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: a team, you know, if not going even further back
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: than that. Unbelievable to think where they've come from. Yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: even you know, you think back to last year when
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: you had Cattuoviti and Monti and Gerard playing for them,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: big gun names that have really put them on the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: map and got some great results. And it was so
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: good to see them on debut at a Commonwealth Games
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: as well. That's such a special moment. And then Halita
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: VeVe was the flag ceremony, as was Mary chol Locke
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: for U Gander. It's so great, so good.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So remember when Shirazzle was the flag bearer in Deli.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah about that was Yeah, it was a thousand degrees.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: It was Deli, What did you wear when we had
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: a gray skirt with with multi colored tops on.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: So I had like a blue one. Someone might have
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: had an orange, someone might have had a green, but
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: they were all dark versions of those colors. By the
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: time we got out, we were drenched in sweat. It
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: was so hot. They had barely anyone in the stadium.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: So you know Cherrell's big moment. Yeah, it wasn't like
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: mcg like it was in Melbourne.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can get Shirella along to a live event
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: sometime to be the flag bearer and we can all
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: give her the appropriate chears that she bring us.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Bachelor and they can both hold them up.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: We could, Yeah, that would be great. Actually, I was
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: commentating that in Deli, and I was supposed to so
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I knew that. When Charell came onto the screen, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: was supposed to talk, but I started to cry. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: was so excited, Bra like Netbilk had this show. Netball
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: team had never had a flag bearer before for the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: opening ceremony.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't start squeezing someone's black head.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Nicole Livingston jumped in and picked up for me.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Because I just couldn't talk. So I was part of
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the reason there was not enough cheering in the stadium
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: because I couldn't talk ha ha.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: But it's been it's been so good. It's been awesome
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: to see the Diamonds get up and away too solid wins.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I've got blowie now at the crack of dawn in
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Australia on Wednesday morning at six am start here, so
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I think it's like a nine pm game over there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: So they've gone from playing at eleven am in Glasgow
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: to nine pm in Glasgow, went really early to really late.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you a question, Catherine just about like it's
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a bit of a teching netball question. But as evident
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that Stacey Rikovic has I guess her starting seven, her
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: top line. And I know that we don't talk about
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: starting seven so much anymore because, particularly in SSN, the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: interchange rule just means that coaches have lots of flexibility.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: That doesn't happen obviously in international netball. So we saw
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that seven really do the job in the first half,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and that second quarter against England was unbelievable. Would you
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: think that we'll see a bit of a mix up
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: against Malawi in that line so that you don't end
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: up with almost two separate lines.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: So you know, if I was shocked that she kept
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: the same starting seven from the game too, absolutely, because
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: that's like I mean, obviously worried about what England was
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: going to do and how they would play, and you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: wanted to start with that strong. But I think no
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: matter who we put on in a seven, we can
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: beat anybody. So I was surprised it was exactly the same.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I thought there might have been one or two changes maybe,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: but it will absolutely be completely different starting seven when
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: they play Malawi, surely.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But they might go back to this for South Africa.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think South Africa is going to be
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: right on the radar now definitely, So if she thinks
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: this is the strong, strongest starting seven, but I think
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: you've also got a way up who you're playing against
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and what players are going to be best on them.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: But it was interesting not to see Cardwell so much,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I thought for England yesterday against Australia. She only came
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: on right at the end of the game.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was surprising. She's the most one of
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the most experienced ones for them. But I got to
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: say I thought the England front line didn't look too bad.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I thought their front line was good. I thought their
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: back line was good. They just there was just a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: bit of a missing sort of spark I thought in
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the mid court. I don't know mid courts.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we will always blame We're going to blame me.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Hello, their best on ground, So there you go, Carol
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I Jane Ellison was fantastic for them last night.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: But they smashed Australia in defensive winds. They had like
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: ten intercepts to four. Absolutely killed this. But it was
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: the unforced errors off the back of those wins. I
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: think the pressure from Australia that you know, they turned
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the ball over so quickly, so I think quite a
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: few easy fixes as far as England's concerned going ahead.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: You know, they did stilly stepping things and throwing balls
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: out of court and stuff like that, so I don't
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: think there'll be too upset. They won the last quarter
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: which is huge twelve ten Yeah, so lots to take
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: out from that. But I think Australia looking as the goods.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Oh so much to talk about, but we'll come back
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: on Friday and talk about some more netbally things. We
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: just need a little little break now. Okay, gosh, we're
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: running long today because we have so much to talk about.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: But I've just got a little things that make me go.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: And it's just a little bit of a tune up
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: for everybody. We're getting very passionate on Facebook again, and
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that's great, we love that. But remember please don't write
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: anything in the notable Facebook group or anywhere, really, but
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: don't say something that you wouldn't say to that person
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: if you were sitting opposite them making a two full
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: cup of tea. And you know, disagreements are wonderful. And
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: then we've got ninety nine out of one hundred all
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: people respectfully disagree. But there was some passion around this dress,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the diamonds dresses, and it's like, I think we're all
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: agreeing here that there was something a bit a bit
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: funny going on there, that the you know, whatever was
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: going So how can we be arguing about it? Like
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's just just just remember it's it's a plate we're talking.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: We're trying to make lives better here talking about netball,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So just just bring your kinder self and reread your
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: remark and think how could that be misconstrued? Does that
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: come across the way.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I want absolutely here here, one hundred percent. And I
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: think I've said this before that social media is the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: thing that allows the things that you used to yell
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: at your television to now write it right. So, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I've said this before, but my dad used to watch
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the footy, my late dad, and he used to yell
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: all sorts of things of the television, and now my
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: husband yells all sorts of things of the television. And
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: we used to when I was little. We used to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: laugh at my dad, and now my kids laugh at
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: my husband. But neither of them had social media, so
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: nobody knew they could feel what they like. It's fine,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: yes I'm married to a laddie. But in terms of
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the dress, can I just ask Carolyn, I mean, you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the first person to worry thought.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yours didn't look tight like that?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: No, well, it was the size too big for me
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: for starters, so it wouldn't even it wouldn't be the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: size that I would wear. It's a twelve to nine
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: or ten, and it was certainly the length was fine.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I thought the thing the opportunity that we missed at
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the time by focusing too much on the fact that
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I don't have a tan is to look too much
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: of the dress, so I can't.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't know, only we knew. Yeah, back then, we
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: would have done a deep diet.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: We would have maybe we would have you know, we
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: would have all taken turns wearing it, and you could
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: have done some shit. Oh I could have taken you
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: out at the hoop in the backyard. And no. But yeah,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I don't. It's it's interesting. I'm not I'm not sure.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Commwealth Games Organization organizes those dresses,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: not Netball Australia, but Valor have been supplying uniforms for
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Thunderbird swifts giants for a long time and I've not
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: seen I've not seen this sort of riding up thing,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't know what's happening.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Interesting anyway, it's got everybody's attention dress Gate. Everyone's exited around.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: So Catherine no Dribble recommends.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the Kylie minogu docco.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: No, But i'd it's great.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: It's so interesting and you forget, but you also get
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: a nice little flashback to the eighties, you know, like
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: when Neighbors was the biggest thing going around and what
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: a superstar Little Kylie Minogue was it's so good worth
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: a watch everybody.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: It is so incredible what she has done. And you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: coming from Erinsborough No, but I mean she did come
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: from suburban Melbourne.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, I know what, I haven't seen it. But
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I was listening to somebody revealed on radio because I
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: still listened to Heritage Media sometimes, and I was saying,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the thing that really stood out to them was the
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: fact that she has never been involved in a scandal,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Like she's never had a public beef with another celebrity.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Like she's just been a good human and you don't
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: think about that, and then so you sit down and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: watch this, But that's the thing that stands out is
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: what a good human she is, Like she's you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: kept herself clean and nice and all the sorts. I
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's the right terminology, but like, whoever,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: this person that reviewed it, they were like, that's the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: thing that comes through about what a sterling person she is.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: As scandalous as it got was her relationship with Michael Hutchins.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: But that gives a nice bit of balance, doesn't it
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: so great?
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Because it's also a turning point in all of her music,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: you know so many times. Anyway, top watch, everybody jump
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: on board, have a look.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I also have another No Dribble recommends TV wise. It's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: on stand and it's called The f Ward, so it's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: set in a hospital. It's six episodes, Australian sort of
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: drama comedy really that they do actually have footage of
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: real surgery, so maybe you know, not everyone loves that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I loved it, but I just thought it was fantastic
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed the first episode, but it got
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: stronger after that. It was just it's one of the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: best pieces of Australian TV I have seen in a
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: long time. Wow, it's said in a hospital right on
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the beach though, so sometimes it's you think, did you
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: guys want to make er or away? Because sometimes they're
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: just having a conversation on the beach, and so we
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: just started singing, you know, we belong together.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: We have got your weak covered with Netball and Kylie
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: docos and their wards.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: So when you go into a fit of depression that
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the Commonwealth Games Netball is over, these are the things
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that you can line up.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: But can I just say the other thing a bit
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: of a note of a recommends so on the seven
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: plus app like it's been so good to flick through
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: everything because it comes up on air TV. And my
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: ten year old son, I didn't see this coming, is
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: obsessed with the bowls, the lawn bowls.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Oh so we're at a little audio booth. Our little
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: booth that we do the netball and is next door
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: to the bowls commentators, and they are doing some very
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: very long hours. That's interesting. We actually thought they would
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: be quite quiet and they would hear us screaming about
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: the nipball. I don't know if you screamed too much
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: in commentary when you're doing the balls.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Then the three on three basketball, he's like, what's this?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: That's a training drill that's been turned into a metal sport.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Frankly on that one, Murray Cook, the original Red Wig,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: his daughter Gemma is in the para three on three
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: through basketball team. And this is something I absolutely love,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: is that the para sports and the and the other
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: sports are all mixed in together. They're not separate comps.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: And it's like, so good, that's so good. I saw
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: an interview with Murray and his daughter whose name escapes me, Gemma, Gemma,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and she was saying that for so many years she
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: got dragged around that she got dragged around the world
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: to watch him perform, and now he's watching her for
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: form and I'm like, oh, that's so cool. And he's
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: got like the team Astray shirt on. It's great.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: It's not a turtleneck though. No, it's disappointed.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: So because we are now also video you can watch
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: this on Apple or on YouTube, I think we should
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: do a little wiggles. Oh go now I'm stripped out
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that it's Gemma.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Or let's let me let me just google it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: We'll keep doing this while you while you google ITAKA.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: One thing I do I'm a little bit upset about
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: with this Commonwealth Games though, is that they've stolen an
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: event that they know we would be world champions in
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: if they've made it a competitive event. Mop man, They've
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: got the man at the needy ye Patrick is inspiring
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: people world over all.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: What we got well, Okay, her name is Georgia Monroe.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Cook, so sorry, Georgia Monroe Cook, it is not Jemma.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: But yes, that's very exciting to to chug a chugger
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: big red car. All right, that is all we have
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: time for.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Gosh, what a bumper episode.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: This is as it should be though during the Commonwealth Games.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: But we will be back on Friday with another cracking
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: episode of No Dribble. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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