Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI TECH SCROLL: YouTube AI-enhancement drama, AI environmental footprint revealed + Ironmouse named as top creator
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- 0:31Mini Scroll, the daily Internet culture podcast bring you the
- 0:34biggest stories from social media, the creator economy and
- 0:37the digital space every Monday through Thursday and sometimes
- 0:40Friday. My name is Annabelle and I'm
- 0:42your Wednesday mini tech scroll host and also the deputy editor
- 0:46of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
- 0:49Welcome back to mini tech scroll.
- 0:51I hope you guys have had a good week so far and are enjoying the
- 0:54new filter on the mic. If you're watching, it's a cute
- 0:57little pop of color. I don't really have too much to
- 1:00say at the top of this week's episode other than Please
- 1:02remember to rate, review and subscribe and feel free to check
- 1:05out the Buy me a coffee link in the description if you're so
- 1:08inclined. But yeah, let's just jump right
- 1:10into the stories because I feel like today is going to be a bit
- 1:13of a long one. The first story we need to talk
- 1:15about is how YouTube has reportedly made enhancements to
- 1:19uploaded videos without telling creators.
- 1:22According to reporting from BBC and The Atlantic, YouTube users
- 1:25have noticed a couple of changes in various videos.
- 1:29They have been subtle, but definitely noticeable.
- 1:32As Alex Reisner explained for The Atlantic quote, viewers have
- 1:35noticed extra punchy shadows, weirdly sharp edges, and a
- 1:38smooth that look to footage that makes it look like plastic.
- 1:42Many people have come to the same conclusion.
- 1:44YouTube is using AI to tweak videos on its platform without
- 1:48creator's knowledge. So a guitarist and creator named
- 1:51Rhett Shawl also posted a video about this phenomenon around 2
- 1:55weeks ago and it's currently sitting at almost 800 K views at
- 1:58the time of recording, so it is clearly piqued everyone's
- 2:01interest in the description of the video he wrote.
- 2:04Quote. I recently noticed my videos
- 2:06look strange and smeary on YouTube compared to Instagram,
- 2:09almost like a cheap deep fake. In this video I investigate
- 2:12what's going on and why I believe it to be a massive
- 2:15problem for everyone on this platform.
- 2:17And that's exactly what he did. There were a couple sections in
- 2:20the YouTube videos, but in one of them he spoke to his wife who
- 2:24also happens to be a professional photographer, and
- 2:26she agreed that many of his YouTube short videos looked
- 2:30weirdly smoothed out and kind of had the qualities of an AI
- 2:33generated image or video. He also pointed to a Reddit
- 2:37thread that was posted two months ago that had the title
- 2:40quote, YouTube shorts are almost certainly being AI upscaled.
- 2:44And he ended up concluding the video expressing how concerned
- 2:48he is about how his audience would receive these videos
- 2:51thinking that they are AI generated.
- 2:53He said quote. I think it's going to lead some
- 2:55people to think that I'm using AI to create my videos or that
- 2:59it's being deepfaked or that I'm cutting corners somehow.
- 3:01It will inevitably erode viewers trust in my content.
- 3:04With all this speculation going around.
- 3:06YouTube has since gone on to issue a statement on X on August
- 3:0921st, YouTube's creator liaison Renee Ritchie clarified that
- 3:13quote. No upscaling was happening.
- 3:16As he wrote, we're running an experiment on select YouTube
- 3:18Shorts that uses traditional machine learning technology to
- 3:22unblur, denoise, and improve clarity in videos during
- 3:25processing, similar to what a modern smartphone does when you
- 3:28record a video. So even though Renee Ritchie
- 3:31said that AI wasn't being used, he did cut some backlash from EX
- 3:36users asking how YouTube could say that it wasn't using AI
- 3:40while simultaneously admitting to using machine learning to
- 3:44improve videos. In a follow up tweet, Renee
- 3:46Ritchie went on to add some additional context to the
- 3:50terminology he used. As he wrote quote, Gen.
- 3:53AI typically refers to technologies like Transformers
- 3:56and large language models, which are relatively new.
- 3:59Upscaling typically refers to taking one resolution and making
- 4:02it look good at a higher resolution.
- 4:04This isn't using Gen. AI or doing any upscaling.
- 4:08So I thought this back and forth was quite interesting, not
- 4:11necessarily because of what YouTube is doing, but because
- 4:14it's prompted a conversation around whether users actually
- 4:17know what is and what isn't AI. Because AI at the end of the day
- 4:21has become such a catch all term online.
- 4:23In this case, it seems like there's been some confusion
- 4:26between AI and machine learning. For context, AI is obviously a
- 4:31very broad time, but it refers to using technologies to build
- 4:34machines and computers that kind of mimic human intelligence,
- 4:38whereas machine learning is an application of AI that allows a
- 4:42machine or system to learn and improve from experience.
- 4:46Obviously the two are really closely related, so the
- 4:49confusion is definitely understandable and valid, but it
- 4:52doesn't help that so many companies are adopting AI to
- 4:55feed into the buzz, which makes it even harder to differentiate
- 4:59the two for people who aren't necessarily familiar with this
- 5:01kind of stuff. And you could argue that this is
- 5:04all a matter of semantics, but I think Rhetchol's point about AI
- 5:09eroding trust in viewers definitely holds weight here.
- 5:12Reaction to AI on social media are so often pretty intense, and
- 5:17when people start to assume that everything is AI generated or is
- 5:20using AI, it undermines the experience, especially when that
- 5:24isn't the case. So I definitely think it is
- 5:26important for journalists, experts, influencers to make an
- 5:31effort to explain to their audiences about the differences
- 5:35between AI and machine learning and all stuff like that.
- 5:38OK, the next story I wanted to talk about is honestly quite an
- 5:42extensive 1 and it's all about how Google recently released a
- 5:45study analyzing the the environmental impact of AI.
- 5:49So today we are becoming women in STEM for real.
- 5:53To preface though, I don't want to pretend that I am some kind
- 5:56of expert in this field or kind of analysis, but I definitely
- 6:00have done my very best to provide a high level breakdown
- 6:03for you guys, especially because I think the environmental
- 6:06impacts of AI is definitely something we should all be very
- 6:09conscious of when we choose to use AI or when we don't.
- 6:13On August 22nd, the Google Cloud blog posted a piece with the
- 6:17headline How much energy does Google's AI use?
- 6:20We did the math where they reportedly measured the
- 6:23environmental impact of AI inference.
- 6:26Inference in this context though, is basically running an
- 6:29already trained model to generate an output, so that
- 6:32doesn't necessarily include training, and that is definitely
- 6:35something to note. Anyway.
- 6:36In the blog they link to a technical paper that explains
- 6:39how they measured the energy emissions and water impact of
- 6:43Gemini prompts. One of the key findings that has
- 6:46start up quite a lot of conversation online was that a
- 6:49typical Gemini text query uses 0.24 Watt hours of energy, emits
- 6:550.03 grams of carbon dioxide equivalent and consumes 0.26
- 7:00milliliters or around 5 drops of water.
- 7:04They also estimated that 12 months ago the per query energy
- 7:08use was around 33 times higher than it is now.
- 7:12For this episode, I wanted to hone in on the water aspect
- 7:15here, given that there have definitely been concerns for a
- 7:18long time about a is quote UN quote excessive water
- 7:21consumption. For example, a piece that I
- 7:24found that was published in The Conversation last year noted how
- 7:27AI uses large volumes of water related to hardware production,
- 7:31where this usually involves mining for raw materials that
- 7:34ultimately contribute to water pollution.
- 7:37The authors also added quote initial research shows that AI
- 7:41has a significant water footprint.
- 7:43It uses water both for cooling the servers that power its
- 7:46computations and for producing the energy it consumes.
- 7:49On top of this, there's also been research that has been
- 7:52published that indicate that a lot of water is being used in
- 7:56data centers and the training phases of AI models.
- 8:00One study I found while researching for this episode
- 8:02that was actually published back in 2023 found that quote the
- 8:06water footprint of AI models can vary widely depending on the
- 8:09complexity of the model and the size of the data center required
- 8:12to run it. For example, GPC Three, an AI
- 8:15model developed by Open AI, reportedly consumed
- 8:18approximately 700,000 litres of water during its training phase.
- 8:22This is a staggering amount of water, particularly when one
- 8:25considers that GPT 3 is only one AI model among many.
- 8:29So that's just a little bit of context about what is being said
- 8:32and what is believed about a eyes water usage.
- 8:35Obviously it's fair to say that the amount of water used depends
- 8:38on the model and the company, and most of these studies have
- 8:41used ChatGPT as an example as opposed to Google Gemini.
- 8:45But the pre-existing public narrative and assumptions stand
- 8:48in stark contrast to what Google has published in this recent
- 8:51report slash study. Obviously this could be a result
- 8:54of technological improvements and efficiency as AI becomes
- 8:58more advanced, but experts are not convinced that this is
- 9:02entirely the case, so I wanted to break that down for you.
- 9:05According to reporting for The Verge, journalist Justine Calmer
- 9:09notes that the study quote omits some key data.
- 9:12Speaking to experts, Comma notes that the study's decision to
- 9:15exclude quote indirect water usage is a problem here.
- 9:19So from my understanding, water usage should include direct
- 9:22consumption, which is water that could be used for cooling the
- 9:25systems, as well as indirect consumption, which would be
- 9:28water used in electricity production, say, as she writes
- 9:32quote. A big issue experts flag is that
- 9:35Google emits indirect water use in its estimates.
- 9:38Its study included water that data centers use in cooling
- 9:41systems to keep servers from overheating.
- 9:44Now, attention is shifting to how much more electricity data
- 9:48centers might need to accommodate new AI models.
- 9:51In fact, a majority of the water a data center consumes stems
- 9:55from its electricity use, which Google overlooks in this study.
- 9:59Another article I read from the MIT Technology Review noted that
- 10:03the Google report was also strictly limited to text
- 10:06prompts, so it doesn't necessarily represent the amount
- 10:09of electricity or water needed to generate an image or video,
- 10:13which would presumably be higher.
- 10:15But both of the articles from The Verge and the MIT Technology
- 10:19Review note other factors about the report that should
- 10:21definitely be noted when you're reading it.
- 10:24But we don't have time to get into all of this now, especially
- 10:28if we want this podcast to stay under 15 minutes long.
- 10:31But I would definitely recommend giving those articles a read if
- 10:34you're interested in this topic. OK, so with all of that, let's
- 10:38take a moment to think of this from a bigger picture
- 10:41perspective. There are a lot of positives, of
- 10:44course, to Google releasing this report.
- 10:46This is definitely the most transparent that a company has
- 10:48been about the environmental impacts of their AI, even as
- 10:53third party organizations and researchers try to examine this
- 10:57themselves. There is definitely a veil of
- 10:59secrecy that kind of exists around a company's AI.
- 11:03So it's useful for data to be coming from the company
- 11:05themselves. But I will say I did see one
- 11:08post on Blue Sky that was skeptical of this and I thought
- 11:12it was a valid point. So as they wrote quote, letting
- 11:15Google set the narrative about environmental costs of AI is
- 11:18like letting tobacco companies set the narrative about the
- 11:21effects of second hand smoke by measuring the health effects of
- 11:24sitting through one neighbor's smoking cigarette.
- 11:26I definitely think there is some truth to this, and I also think
- 11:30it is healthy to approach these kind of things with some level
- 11:33of skepticism. Also, the fact that the report
- 11:35was quite transparent with its methodology despite some of the
- 11:38issues that experts have laid out helps contextualize how AI
- 11:42factors into our personal carbon footprint.
- 11:44I saw an interesting article from the Sustainability by the
- 11:48Numbers sub stack about all of this.
- 11:50As the author Hannah Ritchie explains quote, individual usage
- 11:54of ChatGPT and other LLMS for most people is a small part of
- 11:58their carbon and energy footprint.
- 12:00Although the fact that AI chat bots are a small part of most
- 12:03individual footprints does not mean I don't think AI and data
- 12:06centers as a whole are not a problem for energy use and
- 12:09carbon emissions. I would also recommend giving
- 12:12that post a read as well. It was really interesting.
- 12:15She even drew comparisons of the energy used to generate one text
- 12:19post would be like compared to watching TV or microwaving food.
- 12:23So I just thought it was interesting to put it into
- 12:25perspective because it can be quite difficult to conceptualize
- 12:29all this for sure. All in all though, I definitely
- 12:31think this kind of reporting is something we should be expecting
- 12:34and demanding from big tech. It's something that I think uses
- 12:38are owed since we are the ones using various AI products,
- 12:43especially if you are environmentally conscious or
- 12:45this is something you care about.
- 12:47We deserve to have some answers, I think, and in an era where
- 12:50everything is changing so rapidly, it might just bring a
- 12:53little bit of comfort. OK, my last story for today is a
- 12:56little bit of a quick 1. I feel like the first two
- 12:58stories today were extensive, or at least they took me a while to
- 13:01research, so it felt extensive. But I wanted to quickly mention
- 13:05Rolling Stones 25 Most influential creators of 2025 and
- 13:09how AV Tuber was actually in the list.
- 13:11Lauren will actually speak more about the drama that has ensued
- 13:15since this article came out tomorrow, so definitely stay
- 13:18tuned for that. But if you aren't familiar with
- 13:20what a V tuber or virtual YouTuber is, I will explain
- 13:24quickly. So these are essentially virtual
- 13:26content creators who are using avatars to produce content and
- 13:31entertain their audiences. They have been around for a
- 13:33while now and are popular in certain niches online, but I
- 13:37think with this we are seeing them slowly enter the mainstream
- 13:41or at least Internet culture mainstream.
- 13:43Iron Mouse, who is a Puerto Rican Twitch creator, was listed
- 13:46as #17 in Rolling Stones list Quote.
- 13:49Puerto Rican Twitch creator Iron Mouse may remain anonymous, but
- 13:53she's become iconic for her pink and purple head avatar and high
- 13:56pitched squeaking voice alone. The vlogger and gamer is a
- 13:59mainstay in V Tubing and the most subscribed female Twitch
- 14:02streamer of all time. This isn't actually the first
- 14:05time that Iron Mouse has entered the mainstream recently.
- 14:09Around a month ago, Iron Mouse was making headlines after
- 14:12releasing a video alleging that V tuber talent agency V Shojo
- 14:16was withholding money in funds that were meant to go to
- 14:19charity. In that video, she also
- 14:20announced that she was leaving V Shojo.
- 14:23This was massive news for the V Tubing community at the time and
- 14:27also probably helped this community go a little bit more
- 14:30mainstream in terms of Internet culture because that's kind of
- 14:33what drama does. Everyone loves to know what is
- 14:35going on in various niches, even if you aren't deeply invested in
- 14:39it. Or at least that might just be
- 14:40me. But it's definitely interesting
- 14:43to see this niche become increasingly well known across
- 14:46Internet culture. I mean, I was listening to the
- 14:48There Are No Girls on the Internet podcast the other day,
- 14:51which is an iheart podcast, and they were talking about V Tubers
- 14:54selling out concerts. And I haven't really seen V
- 14:57tuber discourse in so many more traditional publications or
- 15:01mainstream publications. But I'm curious, for any of you
- 15:04who have long watched V Tubers, are you feeling this shift
- 15:08towards the mainstream at all? And if you are, I'm curious what
- 15:13you think about it. Is this something that you think
- 15:15will last? Is this something that you're
- 15:17enjoying? You're happy to see your
- 15:18favorite creators validated? I'm very curious.
- 15:21OK, That was everything from mini tech scroll today.
- 15:25I feel like we had quite a variety of stories.
- 15:27Obviously, a lot of it was AI because that is everything we
- 15:30seem to talk about these days. But I will be back with another
- 15:34episode next week and Lauren will speak to you for a regular
- 15:38mini scroll tomorrow. Thanks for listening.
- 15:40Bye.