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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are starting with Resh
- 0:02Samhbet Saif. Hey, right.
- 0:06I'll just, I'm just going to say if you heard the story
- 0:09yesterday, I don't know how I I botched it, but it's Rav RA
- 0:12Leibowitz and I know I don't know where I came from.
- 0:17And Rav Krone got his sock. He quoted from Ravzelig Epstein
- 0:22about waiting the next day after taking medication.
- 0:26But again, one has to understand which medication he was talking
- 0:29about. I did speak to a couple
- 0:31knowledgeable mohalim and they're not familiar with anyone
- 0:34using such a agadara. It's always based on when
- 0:39they're healthy, right? Medication.
- 0:40Many medications people take for a lifetime.
- 0:43It's like it's strange to use medication as a litmus test when
- 0:47they're healthy or not healthy. But anyways, we mentioned that
- 0:50yesterday. Let's read on to Hey IME no lad
- 0:55keshiyu right? How do you define help exactly?
- 0:59IM no lad keshiyu nirim barakiya kohabim tanima OD.
- 1:05OK, so now the baby's being born is born late in the afternoon,
- 1:10early evening right? And you see 3 little stars in
- 1:16the sky right? Yeesh, Lismoth al Kohabim, the
- 1:20Suffolk Lamu la Mccarrat. Once you see three stars now, I
- 1:25think right now you can go outside.
- 1:27Not this moment, it's the morning, but nowadays you can go
- 1:31and this time of year you can look up early in the evening or
- 1:34maybe even before. Shia did not pay attention and
- 1:37you can see I think 3 planets. It's those are Gadolian.
- 1:42I understand. I'm just you'll see this is a
- 1:47little confusing. We're going to see this halacha.
- 1:49We're going to read Hey and Bob together and we'll see more or
- 1:53less if we could understand it or not that you'll decide.
- 1:58It says three small stars, right?
- 2:00Very small. So once you see three very small
- 2:05stars, it's enough to create a Suffolk that it's already been
- 2:08Shia and now it's the night time or it's the next day, La Mulla
- 2:13Mccarrat, so that you can't do it on the previous day.
- 2:17You have to do it on the next day.
- 2:19Kayvon Shaloyala, Shabbat Valiantov.
- 2:23It's not a, it's a Suffolk. It creates a Suffolk that maybe
- 2:26it's the next day. So you would do the Mila on the
- 2:308th day from the night time or the 9th day from the day.
- 2:34Because now we're not sure 'cause we, it's, it might be
- 2:38puzzle or it's a real problematic if you end up doing
- 2:41a Mila on the 7th day. So we never want to do that.
- 2:45We're better if we're not sure if what's the 8th day, we're
- 2:47much better off to do it on the 9th day because it's after day 8
- 2:51than if we do it on day 7, right?
- 2:53We learned on day 7, Yesh omrim, it's not even, you're not even
- 2:56yutze. Everyone agrees on day nine,
- 2:58you're yutze. It's just a problematic to delay
- 3:02when you don't need to delay, but when you need to delay, you
- 3:04should delay. So it's not done too early.
- 3:07But if it's Shabbos or Yontov, we're gonna see we're not dokhe
- 3:10Shabbos. We're not Dokhe Yontov, the
- 3:14alpha P Shahaya Harakiya must hear Cain or a shoyong.
- 3:20Even though it's extremely bright outside and you're you're
- 3:24almost sure it's still daytime. So then we don't say for sure
- 3:28it's the day since you see three stars.
- 3:31Then we say it's the next day. What's the metsias nowadays?
- 3:34I'm not so sure. It could be This was confusing
- 3:38because the Sholkhanarek paskand we don't possible like the
- 3:41Sholkhanarek basically nobody does when it comes to says this.
- 3:47The Shulkanara holds there's two Shias and it's only the second
- 3:52shiia that matters. And that shiia happens around
- 3:553/4 of a parcel of 72 minutes. I'm blanking on the time but
- 4:01it's somewhere around 56 minutes, whatever it is after
- 4:05what we call sunset. So maybe then it was confusing.
- 4:09But anyways, we have our clocks, we have our watches, and we know
- 4:13what the sunset is and that's what we go by.
- 4:16So it's not really confusing. Let's read the next halacha.
- 4:22Yeah, yeah. In Europe, many went like to
- 4:23Urbain Utan, that's what the. But nowadays everyone follows
- 4:27the galonium kemat, everyone. And let's revolve and we'll put
- 4:32the two together. But just because I mentioned
- 4:34Doka Shabbos, I'll just mention thanks to emotion.
- 4:37This came up early yesterday and we're going to see it again
- 4:40later. I was going to save it for
- 4:41later, but we mentioned that sometimes if it's a nidke
- 4:45because let's say the baby's sick and it's not going to be
- 4:48bizman. So we had with the taz mentions
- 4:52that he holds. We never do a bris shaloh
- 4:55bizmano on a Thursday, Friday. So we know already and we're
- 4:58going to see it again on Shabbos.
- 5:00It's never dul has Shabbos and the only time it's dul has
- 5:03Shabbos or La Culioma Thursday, Fridays if it's on the 8th day
- 5:08Bisman once it's a Suffolk or it's Shiloh Bisman.
- 5:11It's not the it's beyond the 8th day or it's a Suffolk so it's
- 5:15beyond the 8th day. We don't do it on Shabbos and
- 5:17Yom Tov. At least Yom Tov Rishon will
- 5:19discuss Yom Tosheni later. Too much all at once.
- 5:23But when it comes to what about Thursday, Friday?
- 5:26So he says we don't do it on Thursday, Friday.
- 5:28So the taz gives a reason because it's going to be more
- 5:31tsar for the baby on the third day and also on the on the
- 5:36Friday. So we don't do a bris if it's
- 5:38Shiloh Bizmano, not on Thursday, not on Friday.
- 5:42The taz writes that and the the yeah, the shop on the spot.
- 5:48I know it could have argues on the spot.
- 5:52OK, the Amina. So it's never done if Shilo
- 5:56Bizmano Thursday, Friday or Shabbos or Yontv, because either
- 6:00it's going to cause too much sorrow for the baby on Shabbos,
- 6:03right, the pain, or we're afraid it might.
- 6:07Todd doesn't say brothers, right?
- 6:08We're afraid it's going to cause kilo Shabbos because it's normal
- 6:11in the first three days to take care of the baby.
- 6:14Do what you need to do. And it might want to heat up
- 6:16water, you might need to cut bandages, whatever you might
- 6:18need to do, it might lead to kilo Shabbos.
- 6:21So that's the reasoning. Lamai said.
- 6:23Humat all Ashkenazim in the world, they do, they are.
- 6:26They do a bris on Thursday and Friday, even if it's Shiloh
- 6:30Bizmano. And there might be some
- 6:32communities that don't. But in general, Ashkenazim will
- 6:36always do it on a Thursday, Friday.
- 6:38And most Spartan, as far as I know, will not do it on a
- 6:42Thursday. Friday Khazan Ababad Yosef was
- 6:47pushed not to do it on a Thursday and Friday.
- 6:50There are some Spartan who did it do it on Thursday and Friday
- 6:54even if it's Shiloh bizmano but it's more popular I believe now
- 6:59not to do it on a Thursday. Friday amongst Spartak kasto.
- 7:03OK so that let's keep reading. Let's do vav in la altar kisha
- 7:09hozi havlad Roche ohuzov prozdor nirushla shako khabin benoni.
- 7:15Now if you see three stars, so when there was 3/3 medium sized
- 7:20stars Lila, then we know for sure it's night time.
- 7:26It's say sakohagin Afilu hula, Mahar Shabbos.
- 7:30Even if the next day is Shabbos, it's not a Suffolk, right?
- 7:33But if it's a Suffolk 8th day or 9th day, sometimes now you have
- 7:36to wait till the 10th day you get out of the Suffolk.
- 7:40But here he says, no, you do it on the next day because now you
- 7:43know you saw three medium sized stars.
- 7:45You know for sure it's night time of all.
- 7:49And I'll just point out here the shock is what who makes it?
- 7:53He writes there's a distinction. If it's three little stars, it's
- 7:56a Suffolk. If it's three medium size, it's
- 7:59not a Suffolk. I think Kiva eager on the spot,
- 8:02says, whoa, I don't understand that.
- 8:04It should be the opposite. If if you can see the little
- 8:07ones, Klochak and you can see the big ones.
- 8:09So May, I'm not sure, maybe the little ones, that's what we
- 8:12normally say, right? Maybe the little ones, just
- 8:17trying to think so anyways, Ebikiva Agers, maybe they're not
- 8:22really stars. That's why I mentioned planets.
- 8:24Venus, Mars and Jupiter I think are the three that you can see
- 8:28nowadays all lined up. I saw last night, two nights
- 8:31ago, but it's not Mars. There's three of them, I forget
- 8:35which 3, 2 Jupiter and and Mercury.
- 8:43Venus and Jupiter are the ones. OK, but some OK Anyways, yes,
- 8:49I'm a focus in the room before it's two or three.
- 8:51Fine, whatever it was planets. It's a good question.
- 8:58I think we say the planets are big and we don't rely on them
- 9:03and and and they. So anyways, let's go on right?
- 9:08You can see it anyway. So that's why the the big ones
- 9:10you can see even too early. But anyways, let's keep going.
- 9:15Ravikiva Ager's main point was it's your don't focus on the
- 9:20stars, focus on the daylight. The the reason why there there
- 9:26was a Suffolk in Hay, it's not because of the size of the
- 9:29stars. He's just quoting whatever it is
- 9:32from where he's quoting. But the point is it's bright
- 9:36outside. So since it's so bright outside,
- 9:39you think the sun is still up or you think it might still be up,
- 9:43but you see stars. So now you're confused, you
- 9:46know, because sometimes you don't see the sun.
- 9:49But then according to the Shokanara sunset, it happens.
- 9:53The real skier happens almost an hour after the sunsets, or if
- 9:57there's a mountain or a hill, you don't see the sun anymore,
- 10:00but it's still bright outside. So anyways, if it's really
- 10:03bright outside and you assume the sun is still there but you
- 10:06see three stars, that's when it's a Suffolk.
- 10:09And when it's involved when it's not a Suffolk, it's 'cause it's
- 10:13starting to get dark outside and you see three stars.
- 10:17So then there's no Suffolk, and that's Arabiya Kiva.
- 10:20Kivaiger explains the two. OK, let's go on to be finished
- 10:28about. So then he says, now let's say
- 10:41you don't, you have no clock and you have no watch.
- 10:44And right now you look at the clock.
- 10:48It's an hour after Shia, right? It's a cycle coven, 100%, let's
- 10:53say, right. That's a wee pass.
- 10:58Whether it's 13 minutes, 20 minutes, thirty minutes or most
- 11:02Jews live in the world somewhere between 13 minutes and 25
- 11:07minutes. Thirty minutes.
- 11:08Is that really depends where you live.
- 11:10But usually we're in that that time frame in England.
- 11:15Maybe a little bit later. Yeah, a little bit later.
- 11:19It depends anyways. So whatever it is, the once you
- 11:26get to it says whatever. An hour after Skia, you look at
- 11:31your clock and you go, well, I know the head came out two hours
- 11:35ago for sure. You just know because you know
- 11:38how much time elapsed. So if you know, even though you
- 11:40weren't looking at a clock at the time, but you know that
- 11:45everyone knows everyone in the room was of course it was at
- 11:47least it was at least two hours and it was 3 hours, whatever it
- 11:50is an hour and 40 minutes. In other words, if you get to a
- 11:53point where you know for sure it's been it was before Shia
- 11:58without looking at this, you know the sky and without looking
- 12:01at a watch, but you just know it.
- 12:03That's good enough. And then you say the day, right?
- 12:06Couple hours ago in our story, it was the day before.
- 12:09That's the first day and you count 7 days from couple hours
- 12:14ago and then on that day, the 8th day, you do the Mila and
- 12:19it's doka shabos. Don't second guess yourself.
- 12:22If you're sure that's what it was, then that's good enough.
- 12:25You don't have to see the sky. OK Zine.
- 12:33OK, so very clear when it comes to fila.
- 12:37So we know sometimes you we could dive in before, you know,
- 12:41before, before the next day. It's not so common in the
- 12:48mornings, but it's more common in the in the afternoon, right
- 12:52when we hold shkia as shkia, let's say we're going to call it
- 12:56the astronomic sunset. And before that is the day
- 13:00before. After that is the next day or
- 13:03OK, there's a small period of Bina shmashovs fine, but it has
- 13:08nothing to do with when you davin.
- 13:10We know you could davin menkar marev marev really by plaga
- 13:14menka. So even if you davin marev by
- 13:17Plaga menka or you accepted Shabbos early, whatever it is,
- 13:21even if you did that before Shia because you're allowed to 100%,
- 13:26then you that doesn't change the matsias of the day.
- 13:30So the day and night, right? For basically, for any halaqa,
- 13:37for any halaqa that's based on the time of the day, it goes
- 13:41based on the Mitzius and you by the sun and the moon and the
- 13:45stars, whatever sunrise, sunset, by the briasolam, how the world
- 13:49was created. It has nothing to do with you,
- 13:52you know, fudging it by you could, you could be mostly
- 13:55Shabbos, right? That's to Safa Shabbos you can
- 13:58add early and late. That has nothing to do with the
- 14:01Zeman of the Mila. And so to Trila, there's a
- 14:04ennion of davanin that you could davin starting Plago Menka.
- 14:09Anyways, that has nothing to do with you know.
- 14:12And and if you davan marev during benishmashos has again,
- 14:16that has no bearing on the child.
- 14:18That's the zone, the time zone of Suffolk.
- 14:21Doesn't matter if you Davan Marev or not.
- 14:23OK, then it's clear enough. Let's go to the next, next one.
- 14:27Resh samit Gilmel. Yeah, I'll let you.
- 14:31Adam. O Yarok.
- 14:33All right. O Shabana of me.
- 14:34Team Mahmas Mila alef khatan shihu.
- 14:38Yarok. A child that is yellow jaundice.
- 14:43Simon Shalona falbo damo. It's a sign that his blood is
- 14:47underdeveloped. Right?
- 14:50Breaking down the bilirubin, whatever it is, so I I was I
- 14:53read that starting from 5% above 5%, you can already start in the
- 15:01blood. You can start to see changes on
- 15:02the skin color. But but as far as being
- 15:07considered jaundice Lahalaka to push off a Briss or not that
- 15:11takes masaura. It takes experience and training
- 15:18from from Amoa. Where do you what you know what
- 15:20point once you see it in the skin, that's when we generally
- 15:25start waiting. But again, exactly how yellow
- 15:28it's a question and it's could be the whole body part of the
- 15:31body and but again, that really just takes experience and and
- 15:36Masaura, where do you do it? Some post can mention a percent
- 15:41where it becomes a problem, like 10%, twelve percent, 13%.
- 15:45Primarily it's based on the, the training and the masaura of the,
- 15:50of the, of the mole. So usually we assume it's not a
- 15:53problem modern day medicine, but it depends how much and it
- 15:57depends why they're jaundice really.
- 15:58It also depends why is it just just because of a little
- 16:02bilirubin or there's more of a medical condition?
- 16:05So anyways, I always have to, for every case you have to just,
- 16:09you know, double check with, with the doctor, obviously,
- 16:11obviously make sure it's not a hemophiliac that's much more
- 16:14serious and double check with your mole.
- 16:17So he has to obviously check, you know, a few days before
- 16:20before you start announcing when the brisses OK, the a Malinoto
- 16:26Achiupo Bodamo Viazo, Mario Kumar, Sharkdaniv.
- 16:30And when do you when do you do it?
- 16:32As soon as he looks healthy again, right?
- 16:34This is not a case of a Holi Col. goof.
- 16:37You don't you do not wait seven days, you you do it right away,
- 16:42as soon as the color is back to normal, whatever is considered
- 16:46normal or if it's seen if he's too red than normal, si manchua
- 16:52nivla damo bevarov. It's a sign that his blood did
- 16:56not properly again developed and circulate.
- 17:00Ella Bain or ella basar. Maybe it's too much between the
- 17:03skin and and the muscle, the en malignuto achevla bodamo and we
- 17:10wait until he looks normal. But sorry, and we must be
- 17:17extremely cautious with all the, with all these areas of, of
- 17:21health and Sakana Sheen Malin Vlad sheshba Khashash holy.
- 17:26And if, if you have a if you're, you're nervous, you have a, a
- 17:30reason to be worried about the health or the health of the
- 17:35child. So then, then you delay the
- 17:39sakana because Sakana's navashas, if you're afraid of
- 17:44the life we are, always push it off.
- 17:48Even if you're afraid, it can lead to sakana, right?
- 17:50We learned even if the child's not, it doesn't feel well.
- 17:53Even if you wouldn't call him sick, but he doesn't feel well,
- 17:56so he's in pain. So we push it off.
- 17:58We never play around the Sakana's navashas.
- 18:01All right, we learned. Obviously you don't want to
- 18:05delay for no reason, but the truth is you can always do it
- 18:09later. If it wasn't done on the 8th
- 18:10day, you can do it on the 10th day.
- 18:11You can do it two months later. You can always do it.
- 18:14But you can never bring back one soul once they are gone.
- 18:24OK, but woman brings her son to the Moell to be and so the first
- 18:35child, Ulmet Mahmatmila, and then the child dies because of
- 18:39the Mila, right? Either immediately or even a few
- 18:42days later, because as long as it's kasure, the child didn't
- 18:46get better, got sick, didn't feel good.
- 18:48I don't know got got out of it, got a fever or whatever it is,
- 18:52you know, relatively short right after the Mila and they didn't
- 18:56get healthy. Sheikh whatever, however we
- 18:59define that. But as long as it's kashur to
- 19:01the Mila Sheikh Sheila Coco, the child got weak.
- 19:07Kashiak Sheila fine Coco oh mala Gama shame.
- 19:11And now the mother has another child and the other one also has
- 19:16the brasmila on time Umais mahmasmila and dies again.
- 19:20Hurry huxaka shabanea Mehta mahmasmila.
- 19:23So we say there's a Khazaka that her children, they die when they
- 19:29get Mila because of the Mila again.
- 19:31Now normally what we're going to see this goes on both sides.
- 19:34So keep reading. What was I just going to say
- 19:38Khazzaka. So we know the Mahlokas in
- 19:41Khazzah in the Gemara, if Khazzaka is with two times or
- 19:44three times. So the general rule is whenever
- 19:47it's a case of sakanas nafashos, we always paskin 2 times is a
- 19:53real khazaka. Whenever it's not pikoak nefesh.
- 19:56So then we say 3 and to undo it. So there's also a Mahloka, let's
- 20:01say the third child, they do a bristmilla, they weren't
- 20:05supposed to, so they do it anyway.
- 20:06And then now the third one is comes out fine.
- 20:09So then it's a Mahloka. If you need one time to undo it
- 20:12or two times to undo it, whatever, it's lo tsunami, BA al
- 20:16ekhad or MI schnein. Now it makes no difference if
- 20:20the mother. Who brought right that she had
- 20:22two children who died because of the Mila.
- 20:25There's no difference if it's from one husband or from 2
- 20:28husbands. From each child, from the
- 20:29different husband or the same one makes no difference.
- 20:32Below Tammulah Shalishi. We don't do a breast Mila on the
- 20:35third one on the 8th day. We wait until he gets older and
- 20:44stronger and again, it's not exactly clear how much older and
- 20:48how much and but I don't know. Ask your Rav, ask the MO, ask
- 20:52the doctors. But it has to be considerably
- 20:55older and stronger. The Who hadin in ish ekhad maal
- 20:59bino rishon visheni who made you Mahmad Mila in the same thing.
- 21:02If it's the father brings his child and they have Emila and
- 21:07and the first two die and again also doesn't matter here, keep
- 21:10reading. We don't do the third one until
- 21:14the the child, the third child gets older and more mature.
- 21:18Bein shahayulo MI isha akhas bein mishtaim.
- 21:21It doesn't matter if it's one wife or two wives, same thing.
- 21:25However, I said same thing, but hagah yesh viesh hulkin mushrika
- 21:30ishraq the ishraq vin nira. The Suffolk Nafa points out
- 21:35there's a second opinion, but he agrees with the anyway, some say
- 21:39it's more tally on the mother. The not that I understand, but
- 21:43there's some say the blood comes more from the mother or she's
- 21:47more more in Chavez's that the blood comes from the mother and
- 21:51the bone, right. OK, OK, OK, square.
- 21:54So the bones come from the father and the blood comes from
- 21:57the mother. But again, I don't really
- 21:58understand that. And that's the if you know the
- 22:01doth, that'll be great. Anyways, Lamisa makes no
- 22:03difference. OK, Gilmo Bhuwadin Isha Malabina
- 22:08umait Mohammad Mila the gam akota malabina umait Mohammad
- 22:12Mila. Not only is it if the the mother
- 22:15has two children, even you have two sisters or we're going to
- 22:20even two brothers, whatever it is, two brothers, two sisters,
- 22:24they each have it with their first child in a row, right?
- 22:27Each of them, their first child, but it's in the same family.
- 22:30And that's also the reason for the third one, that we don't do
- 22:34it when they're three days old. Gum shahar akhayat loyamulu
- 22:38binayam. So then their next children's,
- 22:41the other sisters, no one does the bersmila El yanteno achiya
- 22:44dileno shigdulu vithasku by him until they get stronger Dalit.
- 22:50OK, so this we touched upon a child that's born fully maul.
- 22:58So then you don't do a tafas, then you have to do a Tafas
- 23:01Dambrit, we do that on the 8th day Omeo benaka atrika noto
- 23:06lamydeka yafe yafe be a dying remark 89.
- 23:10But when you do it, you have to you check it very carefully.
- 23:14You look very carefully. You feel the logo Farzila not
- 23:17with with metal. You use your nails until the
- 23:21ayek best so that we don't do any.
- 23:22I think I mean, so we don't damage the Rohin Venizharin,
- 23:27heh, Mali, NATO Umantini lo Harbe and you, you very careful
- 23:32to check and if you need to add because many times I think
- 23:37normally I think I think more common than not.
- 23:39Again, I'm not an expert over here, but when you, when a child
- 23:42looks like they're born Mahul, really there's areas that's not
- 23:46completely Mahul. So you have to check very
- 23:48carefully to see if you need to add a little bit more.
- 23:52You do it and you want to do it carefully.
- 23:54You don't damage anything or hurt anything unnecessarily.
- 23:57The Eng hoshimiyom shimini shalaya viuli de sakana and
- 24:02we're not worried about doing on the 8th day.
- 24:04You do whatever you need to do on the 8th day, now do you?
- 24:06Is it Doha Shabbos? Do you say abraca when you do
- 24:09hot tafas tambre? So it depends if it's 100%
- 24:13kosher. In other words, there's no Orla
- 24:15whatsoever. So then it's not doka Shabbos
- 24:18and you don't say Abraha. I think we're going to see more
- 24:21of this, the Shakhtar's point set out over here.
- 24:24But if the child is not properly Mahul and we're going to learn
- 24:31about sitsi nahmi Akwin soon. But if it's not properly in
- 24:34Mahul and it needs to and you have Sitsi Nahmi Akwin, you have
- 24:37Orla that preventing it from being kosher.
- 24:40So then you do say Abraha and you it is Doka Shabbos.
- 24:46Find one last comment and it's we're going to see that using
- 24:49what we're going to get to when we when we do the, the Priya
- 24:53that there's an Indian to use a nail just so that you don't
- 24:56damage it. And also so that has to do with
- 24:59the clipus or mention that shortly after.