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MLB power rankings update + Cardinals SP Dustin May joins FT · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's hit Power Rankings. We'll mix it in throughout
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Speaker 1: the season. We are hours away at this point from
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Speaker 1: the start of the season. We'll do previous predictions, the
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Speaker 1: whole thing very soon on FT. But let's look at
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Speaker 1: the CBS list and actually, you know what, before we
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Speaker 1: do that, before we show it, please, I'm actually going
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Speaker 1: to see if I can get AJ's attention this way,
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Speaker 1: since he's not the biggest fan of power rankings. They
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Speaker 1: also did a tier within the article. Matt Snyder wrote
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Speaker 1: this article, and let me know if you like this tier, AJ.
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Speaker 1: He put favorites in its own category, one favorite right
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Speaker 1: which he said he would always do one favorite you
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Speaker 1: know who that is Dodgers. Then he has a next
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Speaker 1: tier of four strong contenders. This part I thought was
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Speaker 1: pretty controversial. He had the Yankees, the Blue Jays, the Mariners,
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Speaker 1: and the Cubs as strong contenders in their own tier.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just give you the next tier and then
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Speaker 1: we'll skip the rest. But he said, this next tier
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Speaker 1: is you need a few breaks, as in there a
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Speaker 1: little more flawed or have more questions than the team
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Speaker 1: list right above it Tigers, Mets, Braves, Phillies, Brewers, Astros,
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Speaker 1: Red Sox. I feel like the second and third tier
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Speaker 1: has some.
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Speaker 2: Question in it.
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Speaker 3: We can we show those I mean, the Dodgers are
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Speaker 3: going to be number one of my power rankings to Yer,
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Speaker 3: so you can just go ahead and put those there.
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Speaker 1: Right, Let's look at the power rankings that he put
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Speaker 1: together from one through thirty. So we'll show you the
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Speaker 1: top ten first that they're listing heading into the season.
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Speaker 1: And this can change from spring training. For example, they
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Speaker 1: drop the Braves down a couple slots with all of
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Speaker 1: the starting pitching injuries that are going on. So here
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Speaker 1: it is Dodgers one, Mariners two Blue Jay's three, Yankees four, Cubs,
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Speaker 1: five Tigers, six, Mets, seven, Braves, eight, Phillies nine, Red
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Speaker 1: Sox ten. There will be a lot of people freaking out.
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Speaker 3: Uh, Dodgers, fine, I'm just amazed, the Mariners, Blue Jay,
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Speaker 3: the Yankees, Tigers, before we gets the Mets or Phillies.
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Speaker 3: The National League has proven that it's been better the
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Speaker 3: last few years. So why is the Cubs five and
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Speaker 3: the Mets seven? Braves eight? I mean, how are the
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Speaker 3: Phillies behind the Braves? I mean the Braves with all
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Speaker 3: the injuries, Like, are we serious like this? This list
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Speaker 3: is I mean, it's his. Whoever did this, it's his list.
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Speaker 2: So, but the.
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Speaker 3: Phillies behind the Braves with what the Braves are going through,
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Speaker 3: not only on their starting pitching, for they have Chris
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Speaker 3: Sale and Rinaldo Lopez and then who we got there, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean Elder, I guess, but it's like, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know. This list is interesting to me, but
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers are right yep. How do you put the
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Speaker 3: Mirrors ahead of the Blue Jays and Yankees? The blue
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Speaker 3: Jay's beat the Marrors last year and it got better.
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Speaker 3: Everyone thinks the Yankees are getting cold back. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I think, I think maybe, I don't know. It's an
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Speaker 3: interesting list, but he put his list together and that's
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Speaker 3: what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: Remember Ken said on Inside Scoop how Fangraft still has
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Speaker 1: the Braves slightly ahead of the Phillies.
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Speaker 2: You sure about that? Does anyone agree with that? Right now?
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Speaker 3: I mean Strider's out, trolling Box out, MS, Schwarver's out.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know we're gonna get from Lopez.
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Speaker 3: Joey Wentz is out for touring acl I mean their
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Speaker 3: bullpen is better with the Glaciers and Suarez. But offensively,
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Speaker 3: what do they get because offensively some of those guys struggled.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know, it's interesting. I mean, I've been
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Speaker 3: a Brave fan forever, but there's a lot happening there.
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Speaker 3: Profars out obviously.
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Speaker 1: Yep, profars out. Did you see Rinaldo Lopez last start?
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Speaker 1: How the velocity was like eighty five to ninety and
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Speaker 1: then they asked them about it only because it's this
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Speaker 1: late in the season and the same thing happened last year.
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Speaker 2: And then five seconds later the shoulder popped up when
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Speaker 2: that low. I mean, you know you've watched Rinaldo for years.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully he's healthy. Yeah, we don't know, though nobody talks
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Speaker 3: about it, so we don't know, right, But I think
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Speaker 3: WBC hide some of that stuff where it's like we
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Speaker 3: don't see it. Just brought up about de Grom, like
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Speaker 3: why is de Grom not the opening day starter? Not
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Speaker 3: that Evaldi's not, but like some of this stuff is
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Speaker 3: going to really start to come out in the new
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Speaker 3: news cycle once the season starts, Like if Rinaldo Lopez
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Speaker 3: shows up with shows up with eighty five to ninety
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Speaker 3: in a big league start, a hard time he'll do that.
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Speaker 3: Like I think too much velocity talk is it can
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Speaker 3: get in a way sometimes, especially a guy at the
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Speaker 3: end of spring training wants to make it to the
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Speaker 3: first start of the season healthy and then bang go
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Speaker 3: into the season.
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Speaker 4: But who knows, we'll see. I think the real debate
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Speaker 4: is are the Phillies better than the Mets in your
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Speaker 4: power ranking? And that to me, that's where the debate
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Speaker 4: should be. And he actually has the Braves above the Phillies,
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Speaker 4: So we kind of lose that debate with that.
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Speaker 1: What about the Brewers at eleven? We want to show
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Speaker 1: the middle eleven or the middle ten, I should say,
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Speaker 1: but it begins with Brewers at eleven. He has Astros twelve,
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Speaker 1: Royals thirteen, Orioles fourteen, As at fifteen, them up a
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Speaker 1: bunch of spots, Padres at sixteen, Rangers seventeen, the Giants
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Speaker 1: at eighteen. He has the race checking in at nineteen
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Speaker 1: and the Guardians at twenty.
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Speaker 3: I think the Brewers probably should be higher, but just
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Speaker 3: my opinion, I'm not going to write them off until
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Speaker 3: I see him. I mean, the rest of this list
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Speaker 3: is fine. This is kind of where you get into
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Speaker 3: the mishmash of anything can happen, So yeah, this middle
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Speaker 3: ten is fine. I think the Brewers may maybe switch
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Speaker 3: the Brewers and the Braves, but the Brewers in the
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Speaker 3: top ten until they're proven otherwise. But yeah, I mean
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Speaker 3: this is kind of a mishmash of stuff. And then
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Speaker 3: I mean the race. I mean they all need, all
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Speaker 3: these teams need something to go really right for them
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Speaker 3: to get into a postseason with a chance to win
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Speaker 3: a World Series. Surprising. I'm also kind of surprised the
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Speaker 3: Giants so that I thought they'd be twenty one twenty
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Speaker 3: because they didn't do anything early this offseason. I think
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Speaker 3: this middle tier here, they're all pretty much middle tier
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Speaker 3: teams because we did we did this last year, Like
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Speaker 3: who from the last tier? Would you be like, ooh,
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Speaker 3: they should be bumped up into this middle tier? And
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Speaker 3: I think the middle tier I think I really think
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Speaker 3: the Rangers are going to be better than the Astros.
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Speaker 3: Obviously I'm talking about it at this point the season.
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Speaker 3: I think the Padres are going to be better than
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Speaker 3: the Athletics. Now we can't really justify that because the
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Speaker 3: Padres are in the West. I think the Padres are
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Speaker 3: better than the Giants, so it's good that they're ahead
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Speaker 3: of them.
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Speaker 4: I think the Royals.
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Speaker 3: I think the Royals could be.
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Speaker 4: A top ten team just because or at least a
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Speaker 4: top twelve team because I think they're going to be
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Speaker 4: a playoff team. I am doing my power rankings, my predictions,
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Speaker 4: and I think rit today they might be a team
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Speaker 4: that makes the playoffs. I think they're going to make
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Speaker 4: some adjustment. So I think this group is all the same.
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Speaker 4: I think we can just like kind of mix them around,
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Speaker 4: and I think there's some things that I just I
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Speaker 4: have a hard time believing looking at this. I think
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Speaker 4: the Rangers should be above the Astros. They should be
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Speaker 4: moved down a little bit, The Royals should be above
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Speaker 4: the Rangers, and the Padres should be in front of
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Speaker 4: the Athletics.
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Speaker 3: So what does that look like.
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Speaker 4: It's a few number slots, but I think it's a
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Speaker 4: I think it's you know, on this list are the
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Speaker 4: teams that you're going to sit there and go which
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Speaker 4: of these teams are going to be out of the
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Speaker 4: playoffs and which of these teams.
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Speaker 3: Are going to be in?
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Speaker 4: And they're looking at that last spot.
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Speaker 1: I try to look for themes too as we shift
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Speaker 1: to the bottom ten and see which fan bases might
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Speaker 1: be pissed that they weren't in the middle ten. They
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Speaker 1: don't love the National League Central the Reds lost Hunter
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Speaker 1: Green aj but they made the playoffs last year. Hunter
8:39
Speaker 1: Green missed time last year. Putting them at twenty two,
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Speaker 1: I thought was a little harsh. Based on the talented
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Speaker 1: starting pitching that they have besides Hunter Green, the signing
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Speaker 1: of Gino Suarez, I think they're going to be in
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Speaker 1: the mix. He kind of smashed the Pirates too. I
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Speaker 1: actually took an excerpt from what he wrote there. He said,
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Speaker 1: injury prone Brandon Lowe, washed up Marcelazuna, and Ryano doesn't
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Speaker 1: move the needle a ton for me. So he still
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Speaker 1: doesn't like the Pirates. So anyway, it's Diamondbacks twenty one.
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Speaker 1: You put the Reds of twenty two, Pirates twenty three,
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Speaker 1: Marlins twenty four, Cardinals twenty five. Right, so you've got
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Speaker 1: three National League Central teams in the bottom ten here,
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Speaker 1: then Angels twenty six, Twins twenty seven, White Sox twenty eight,
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Speaker 1: and that's twenty nine thirty is Colorado, of course?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Reds and Diamondbacks you can
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Speaker 3: make a case for moving higher. But who's spot aally
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Speaker 3: gonna take? The Guardians who won the division last year,
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Speaker 3: made the playoffs, and where are you gonna move teams.
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Speaker 3: The Pirates are the Pirates, Marlin's same car. I think
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals are maybe too high on this list because
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Speaker 3: they're not really trying this year. I mean I would
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Speaker 3: probably throw I would actually, I'm trying still trying to
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Speaker 3: figure out how the White Sox are below the Twins
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Speaker 3: on everything we would see.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't I agree.
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Speaker 3: I think the White Sox should at least be in
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Speaker 3: front of the Twins with the moves the White Socks
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Speaker 3: are trying to make and doing things, and the prospects
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Speaker 3: they have coming. The Twins are the same team with
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Speaker 3: al Pablo Lopez. We don't know where Joe Ryan's at.
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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know. The Twins weren't very good
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Speaker 3: last year and they traded away a bunch of their guys.
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Speaker 3: So I mean, the National's Rockies whatever, you know, The
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Speaker 3: Angels are in about the right spot. I just don't
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Speaker 3: know how the White Socks are behind the Twins.
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Speaker 1: I keep saying that I agree the White Sox are
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Speaker 1: going in the upward direction. I think the Twins are
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Speaker 1: very clearly going in the other direction right now. But
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Speaker 1: if we look back aj at the middle list, so
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Speaker 1: the Rays are at nineteen, they're in there, and the
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Speaker 1: A's at fifteen. I know we expect the A's to
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Speaker 1: continue to improve.
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Speaker 2: I like their young core.
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Speaker 1: I think we all do, but they're all position players.
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Speaker 1: Do we think that the A's barely did anything with
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Speaker 1: their pitching? Do we think there's enough pitching that's going
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Speaker 1: to come through and make this a top fifteen team
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Speaker 1: in the league, Like if we're just matching up, let's,
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Speaker 1: for example, say the A's and the Reds.
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Speaker 3: They're counting on the offense.
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Speaker 2: For the A's, Yeah, they have some seventh spots.
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Speaker 3: Is the offense.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: This will move, this will move, it'll be it'll all
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Speaker 3: be different. I just think plus so many people do this.
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Speaker 3: They do it to get people talking. And so hey,
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Speaker 3: if we jumped the A's of a bunch of people
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Speaker 3: wonder why. And if we move the if we put
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Speaker 3: certain teams down in the bottom, people will wonder why.
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Speaker 3: So we're talking about it just like everyone else. So
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Speaker 3: we'll be talking about this this list, and that's what
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Speaker 3: they want.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to win, you got to have pitching.
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Speaker 4: And I think the teams that have pitching can be
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Speaker 4: moved on this list. I think that's why maybe the
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Speaker 4: Marlins are a little bit too low. They have They
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Speaker 4: clearly showed they know how to win last year in
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Speaker 4: a tough National League East so I think the Reds
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Speaker 4: are yes, hunter Green, the loss of Hunter Green is huge,
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Speaker 4: but they still have a really good rotation.
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Speaker 3: Young, some of them unproven.
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Speaker 4: But I think Lodolo took a little step last year
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Speaker 4: and I think you'll take the next step again this year.
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Speaker 4: I just think there's I think I think the groupings
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Speaker 4: are pretty close. I think you can mix and match
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Speaker 4: in those groupings, and then like the the eighteen to
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Speaker 4: twenty two, they're all pretty close. But it's really the
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Speaker 4: haves and the have nots.
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Speaker 2: How many teams do you think on this list have
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Speaker 2: a chance to win the World Series?
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Speaker 3: On the full list, I mean thirty teams have a chance,
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Speaker 3: but I would say.
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Speaker 6: Six.
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Speaker 3: Well, I know more than that. If you have the
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Speaker 3: Phillies at nine, they have a chance. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 3: if you stop the Mets have a chance, The Red
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Speaker 3: Sox have a chance because of their pitching. The Brewers
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Speaker 3: have a chance because they always seem to figure it out.
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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean I think eleven, twelve, I mean,
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Speaker 3: if you get outside the top twelve, then you start
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Speaker 3: getting into it. I mean, the Orioles still if they're everything.
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Speaker 3: It's again, if everything works out, the Oriels have a chance.
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Speaker 3: The Rangers have a chance because you have de Grom
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Speaker 3: with all the in Mackenzie Gore and you have Skip
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Speaker 3: Schumacher has been great. I mean, there's a bunch of
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Speaker 3: teams have chances. But realistically, I mean there's only probably
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Speaker 3: seven or eight teams that can actually do it. But everyone,
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Speaker 3: I mean, a bunch of these teams have chances.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: They brought up in this article the twenty three Rangers,
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Speaker 1: which is only a few years ago, and Snyder in
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Speaker 1: the column said, I remember in spring training saying to
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Speaker 1: another writer, I don't think they will even make the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: but I could totally see the Rangers winning the World Series.
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Speaker 2: I really get that. That speaks to me.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you look at a team and you're like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if this team's gonna make it in but
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Speaker 1: if they do, and then you start looking at what
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Speaker 1: you always bring up, they're starting rotation. To me, that's
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Speaker 1: what stands out. Sometimes you look at a team and
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Speaker 1: you're like, eh, borderline. A lot of things have to
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Speaker 1: go right. But if they do one, two, and three
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Speaker 1: in their rotation makes a lot of sense. I think
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Speaker 1: this is where a team like the Brewers.
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Speaker 3: And if the Rangers figure out how to hit there
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Speaker 3: with their rotation, they could be really good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because things change in the playoffs and you don't
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Speaker 1: need as deep of a bullpen and you can have
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Speaker 1: right a little star power.
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Speaker 4: So but things change from you to you. We would
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Speaker 4: have never said that about the Rangers rotation. We were like,
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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this lineup is going to be ridiculous.
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Speaker 4: They hammered, hammered, and they haven't made the playoffs the
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Speaker 4: last few years, the last two years, but their rotation
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Speaker 4: has started to get better. And look what they did
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Speaker 4: last year. They dominated their rotation dominated. We thought the
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Speaker 4: reds oh Man, look at all these young guys that
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Speaker 4: are coming up from the position player core, and all
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, they're starters, are the ones that are
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Speaker 4: kicking it. So it's like, we don't know exactly what
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Speaker 4: it's going to be. We think we have trends, we think, hey,
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Speaker 4: this is what should probably happen, and then you play
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Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two games and we really find out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course the trade deadline changes things. The
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Speaker 1: key acquisition for Texas back then was Jordan Montgomery and
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Speaker 1: you saw how valuable he was during that playoff run. Massive,
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Speaker 1: massive change once he entered the mix and the rotation
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Speaker 1: for them. All Right, we'll bear back on FT. Let's
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Speaker 1: bring in a veteran signing from the off season. Lad
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Speaker 1: to the show. Dustin May is ready to go. Uh uh, Dustin,
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Speaker 1: we got to do a little flip. Let's try and
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Speaker 1: flip sideways. Yeah, yeah, let's see perfect. Yeah, thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining us, Dustin. How you doing and how did camp
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Speaker 1: finish up? We're talking about some of the youngsters like
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Speaker 1: JJ Weatherhold learning that he made the team.
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Speaker 2: That's got to be cool for you to see. You
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Speaker 2: can remember that for you back in the day.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, feeling great right now. Camp was Camp was solid.
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Speaker 7: Definitely my first camp in a while that I felt
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Speaker 7: good the whole spring training. So I definitely excited about that.
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Speaker 7: And yeah, it was very cool to be a part
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Speaker 7: of that, seeing JJ get told he was making the
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Speaker 7: team and everything.
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Speaker 6: So very excited for him. He's a great kid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, more on you.
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Speaker 4: Oh, just just talk just talked about you know, you
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Speaker 4: being in camp and like being healthy. How draining is
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Speaker 4: that through spring training? And then when it doesn't happen,
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Speaker 4: do you realize looking back, like, oh man, like that
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Speaker 4: was kind of draining on me.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. It's it's definitely been. Uh,
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Speaker 6: it's definitely been.
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Speaker 7: A long five years of not being able to have
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Speaker 7: a fully good feeling spring training since basically COVID.
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Speaker 6: So it was definitely very.
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Speaker 7: Very big morale and like mental boost that I was
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Speaker 7: able to get through it fully clean and actually feel
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Speaker 7: good on the on the outside of it.
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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna try to play director one more time.
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Speaker 1: Can you do two flips on your phone? Wait, cab,
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Speaker 1: go to his single so I can see if this
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Speaker 1: lines up the way we wanted to, right, Okay, hold
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Speaker 1: on one and then the other side too. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if that did anything. No, that's good. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: being told that's good. Never mind, just just the.
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Speaker 2: One flip that feels usually it's gone. I'm getting I
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Speaker 2: have direction. Just leave it. I've been told.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to do too much, which which is
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Speaker 1: important to not do in spring training. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: ask you one more question about Weatherhold and just watching
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Speaker 1: you know, a team that's got a lot of young
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Speaker 1: guys in a young core that that's going to come
17:14
Speaker 1: together here, how difficult is it for you to see
17:18
Speaker 1: players thread the needle during spring training where you want
17:21
Speaker 1: to get better, but then you want to see results.
17:23
Speaker 1: And then for some guys and on on a team
17:26
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals that has many young players and some
17:28
Speaker 1: battles going on, you do have to put the results
17:31
Speaker 1: up so that the team decides who's going to break
17:33
Speaker 1: camp on the opening day roster.
17:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
17:37
Speaker 7: No, I definitely I've been on that side of things
17:39
Speaker 7: where or it's not guaranteed and you got to earn
17:42
Speaker 7: your spot.
17:42
Speaker 6: But like you're also.
17:45
Speaker 7: Working on things coming through spring training that you were
17:47
Speaker 7: trying to put in a place in the offseason, and
17:49
Speaker 7: like coming into spring training, like if it's not working,
17:52
Speaker 7: like like do I stick with this?
17:54
Speaker 2: Do I do?
17:54
Speaker 6: I bang it? Do I try to revert back to
17:56
Speaker 6: old ways?
17:57
Speaker 2: And there were a lot of there were a lot of.
18:01
Speaker 7: Hands in the pot on some kids, but I mean
18:03
Speaker 7: I could see that a lot of guys were grinding
18:05
Speaker 7: and there were there were definitely some good results for
18:08
Speaker 7: some kids in sprint training.
18:09
Speaker 3: For sureusin Forget Forget the results and isn't that what
18:13
Speaker 3: it was? How did Ali tell JJ? Did he call
18:16
Speaker 3: him into the office, did he do something cool like
18:18
Speaker 3: Skip schoe Marker did, or he told the guy on
18:21
Speaker 3: the mound that he made the team? What was Ali?
18:22
Speaker 3: How did Ali tell JJ? And how did the rest
18:24
Speaker 3: of the team find out?
18:26
Speaker 6: I'm honestly not sure.
18:28
Speaker 7: I was I was kind of in the clubhouse when
18:30
Speaker 7: and he kind of came out and guys were like
18:33
Speaker 7: telling him congrats.
18:34
Speaker 6: So I'm not exactly for sure how how of it
18:36
Speaker 6: went down.
18:37
Speaker 3: I was hoping Ali would have big meeting in the clubhouse,
18:40
Speaker 3: you know, because I keep saying, like, it's tired when
18:42
Speaker 3: they call you into the office and they say, oh,
18:44
Speaker 3: you made the team and they have to hidden camera
18:46
Speaker 3: and the GM's there, like let's do something different, right,
18:48
Speaker 3: Like let's come up with some cooler ideas. And I
18:50
Speaker 3: thought Ali, I mean, John Jay has nothing to do
18:53
Speaker 3: all day, so I thought he could come up with
18:54
Speaker 3: a better idea.
18:56
Speaker 7: No, I honestly I have no idea how how it
18:58
Speaker 7: all went down. I was just I was just very
19:00
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19:03
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19:05
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Speaker 1: Hey, Dustin, I want to go back to your free
20:18
Speaker 1: agent process and tell me how you landed with the
20:21
Speaker 1: Cardinals and you know what the conversations were like with
20:24
Speaker 1: them versus other teams to help you make the decision process.
20:28
Speaker 7: That really stuck out for me was the medical staff
20:32
Speaker 7: here and the Cardinals, and they had all the hope,
20:35
Speaker 7: or not all the hope, they had all the trust
20:37
Speaker 7: and the thought of the ability that they would be
20:41
Speaker 7: able to keep me healthy and like they would really
20:44
Speaker 7: do whatever I needed and keep me on my regimen
20:46
Speaker 7: to be able to get through the year fully healthy
20:48
Speaker 7: and feel good coming out of it, like being stronger
20:55
Speaker 7: and healthier throughout the year and not breaking down. So
20:57
Speaker 7: they laid out some plans and stuff and what they
21:00
Speaker 7: had done in the past, and it really just meshed
21:03
Speaker 7: with kind of what I was going going through in
21:08
Speaker 7: the last couple of years. And then also on the
21:10
Speaker 7: on the pitching side, I felt like me and Dusty
21:12
Speaker 7: kind of had a really good kind of bridge between
21:18
Speaker 7: like what I wanted to work on in the off season,
21:20
Speaker 7: like what he thought I needed to work on. So
21:21
Speaker 7: I thought we were very like ying and yang with that,
21:24
Speaker 7: like we kind of wanted the same thing, so I
21:25
Speaker 7: felt like we were on the same page.
21:28
Speaker 6: So that was a big contributor to UH.
21:31
Speaker 7: For me, it was kind of getting my arm path
21:34
Speaker 7: kind of back into like what it was pre my
21:36
Speaker 7: second surgery and then kind of figuring out a change
21:42
Speaker 7: up and then he was all for me bringing the
21:45
Speaker 7: curveball back.
21:45
Speaker 6: So I was really excited to hear that because.
21:48
Speaker 7: It's been a conversation in the past, but it's kind
21:50
Speaker 7: of always gotten shot down.
21:52
Speaker 4: Why do you feel like it got shot down analytically?
21:55
Speaker 4: Like it didn't results oriented, it didn't create what you
22:00
Speaker 4: guys in the team was looking for.
22:03
Speaker 7: I felt like it kind of just didn't match my
22:05
Speaker 7: arm path back in the day. I felt like higher
22:08
Speaker 7: high armslot but higher. I feel like it has allowed
22:12
Speaker 7: me to be able to bring the curveball back into
22:14
Speaker 7: the repertoire and I feel like it's going to play
22:15
Speaker 7: pretty well because it's a bigger speech chane.
22:19
Speaker 3: A lot of teams do. A lot of teams do
22:21
Speaker 3: that because there's certain people that always say, Oh, I
22:23
Speaker 3: want to throw this pitch more of that pitching more.
22:24
Speaker 3: Do they allow you input on that and because you
22:26
Speaker 3: said you seem to like your curveball, so the more
22:29
Speaker 3: teams say hey, were there are certain teams to say, no,
22:31
Speaker 3: we don't love that pitch. You can't throw it.
22:37
Speaker 2: I don't.
22:37
Speaker 7: I don't really think they were saying no. I think
22:39
Speaker 7: it was more so just let's get to spring and
22:41
Speaker 7: see how it goes. And honestly, that was kind of
22:42
Speaker 7: what my thought process was with it. I was like,
22:45
Speaker 7: I want to get to spring. I want to throw
22:46
Speaker 7: it against some hitters. I want to kind of get
22:48
Speaker 7: their viewpoints on it, and especially they are like live
22:51
Speaker 7: it bees against some of our guys, Like I threw
22:53
Speaker 7: a lot of them and they were like, no, it's
22:55
Speaker 7: it's good, Like it's not popping and it's not like
22:58
Speaker 7: coming out of a different look. So I definitely very
23:00
Speaker 7: excited to hear that. And it's five or six miles
23:02
Speaker 7: an hour slower than my slider, so I feel like
23:05
Speaker 7: it's going to give a lot more depth to my
23:07
Speaker 7: arsenal for sure. And adding the change up like back
23:10
Speaker 7: to the to the group as well. I think adding
23:13
Speaker 7: both of those is gonna allow for a lot more
23:17
Speaker 7: question marks on what might come.
23:20
Speaker 3: Well, now you're a true starter, you got like seventeen
23:22
Speaker 3: pitches like every other starter a base Welcome to the
23:25
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the starters world instead.
23:26
Speaker 7: Of being I never believe not It's not just sinker
23:30
Speaker 7: slider anymore. Like it was so definitely very excited to
23:33
Speaker 7: see how it all pans out and works throughout the year.
23:37
Speaker 3: You mentioned this was your first spring in a while healthy,
23:39
Speaker 3: and I know you lost some weight because of the
23:41
Speaker 3: incident you have, But what's your fighting weight? What's your
23:44
Speaker 3: what's your fighting weight that you want to be at?
23:46
Speaker 3: And are you at that right now? And can you
23:48
Speaker 3: maintain that during the season.
23:51
Speaker 8: I I feel like I'm close to it. Before my
23:56
Speaker 8: before my surgery, when I lost on my weight out,
23:59
Speaker 8: I was two. I'm at like two eighteen to two
24:03
Speaker 8: twenty right now. So I feel like I'm at a
24:04
Speaker 8: very comfortable spot. I feel really really strong, be able
24:08
Speaker 8: to hold this weight pretty well.
24:09
Speaker 7: Like I'm not having to like force feed myself to maintain.
24:13
Speaker 7: So I feel like I'm in a really good spot
24:14
Speaker 7: at the moment.
24:15
Speaker 3: What is force feeding?
24:17
Speaker 4: Because there's so many like high school baseball players who
24:19
Speaker 4: are like, Bro, I'm on the games, Bro, are you
24:21
Speaker 4: like a six raw eggs? Just slug it down kind
24:25
Speaker 4: of guy, or do you got to eat chicken and rice?
24:30
Speaker 6: I eat a lot of spaghetti.
24:32
Speaker 7: Spaghetti is my go to so I feel like I
24:34
Speaker 7: can and carbload and protein load of that. But yeah,
24:38
Speaker 7: during the off season, there was definitely a lot of
24:40
Speaker 7: a lot of pasta and a lot of a lot
24:42
Speaker 7: of venison eating.
24:44
Speaker 4: All right, So you could have been on Team Italy
24:46
Speaker 4: for the WBC because if you had some pasta, you
24:48
Speaker 4: could clearly be on Timm Team Italy. But what do
24:51
Speaker 4: you what did you see about this?
24:52
Speaker 6: I mean, say, sorry, I did hear you?
24:58
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was just I was just saying about
24:59
Speaker 4: the but this team the team. You don't know a
25:03
Speaker 4: ton about a team until you get there. You sign
25:06
Speaker 4: with the Cardinals. What are you impressed with that you
25:09
Speaker 4: feel like could turn some heads this year in the
25:12
Speaker 4: sense of you guys winning more games than I think
25:15
Speaker 4: you guys are going to win, and a lot of
25:16
Speaker 4: people think you guys are going to win.
25:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think our pitching staff is very underestimated.
25:25
Speaker 7: I think we have a lot of guys on the
25:26
Speaker 7: staff that have some really good tools in their clock,
25:30
Speaker 7: in their box, and I feel like they're going to
25:32
Speaker 7: be able to come out and show it because they're
25:33
Speaker 7: going to actually have the opportunity this year to go
25:36
Speaker 7: and kind of have a runway. I feel like they're
25:40
Speaker 7: going to give guys their chances this year, and I
25:42
Speaker 7: feel like we have a lot of guys that are
25:44
Speaker 7: ready to take that next step, especially on.
25:46
Speaker 6: The pitching side. I feel like we have some really,
25:49
Speaker 6: really talented young guys.
25:53
Speaker 2: Hey, I've got one.
25:55
Speaker 1: So obviously you were traded last year, but you spend
25:59
Speaker 1: time with the Dodge, so we always like to point out, Hey,
26:01
Speaker 1: there's a ring coming through. I was looking at the calendar.
26:05
Speaker 1: You've got them at home at the beginning of May.
26:07
Speaker 1: You've got them in LA in September. How does that work?
26:11
Speaker 1: Have you talked to them? Do you get to do
26:14
Speaker 1: it on the field? Is it just like a more
26:16
Speaker 1: low key Hey, here's the ring. Have you guys figured
26:18
Speaker 1: that part out yet?
26:20
Speaker 7: I have not been reached out to you about that,
26:23
Speaker 7: but I'm very excited to get I'm very excited to
26:25
Speaker 7: see it, excited to see the guys again.
26:28
Speaker 6: So yeah, looking forward to that.
26:30
Speaker 3: Wait, hold up, what do you mean you don't know
26:32
Speaker 3: where you're gonna be. Aren't you going to be in
26:33
Speaker 3: Saint Louis. You just brought up the trade deadline at
26:36
Speaker 3: that You're Saint Louis.
26:38
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know. Louis Cardinal.
26:41
Speaker 3: They love everybody in Saint Louis.
26:43
Speaker 2: No.
26:43
Speaker 7: I would love to stay. I would absolutely love to stay.
26:45
Speaker 7: I did not sign here to get traded. I did
26:48
Speaker 7: not sign to look at that.
26:50
Speaker 6: But I mean you can't. I mean, I've been through one.
26:54
Speaker 6: It's hectic.
26:54
Speaker 7: I found out literally three minutes before the deadline was
26:57
Speaker 7: closed that I was getting traded.
26:58
Speaker 6: So I don't know what that's going to look like.
27:01
Speaker 7: And I don't want to get to that moment and
27:04
Speaker 7: then oh, I'm not going to LA so you get
27:06
Speaker 7: the mail of the ring ship to you. So I
27:08
Speaker 7: don't want to have to go through that. So I
27:10
Speaker 7: would like to at least get it when I when
27:12
Speaker 7: I see the guys, that's fair.
27:14
Speaker 3: Plus you get a plus, you get a great ovation
27:16
Speaker 3: in Saint Louis. They'll cheer for you no matter what.
27:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, and it's it's good for the young
27:22
Speaker 1: guys to look at it too and be like, hey,
27:24
Speaker 1: oh yeah.
27:25
Speaker 7: I'd definitely like to have it in the clubhouse with
27:26
Speaker 7: the guys to see because there's a lot of guys
27:28
Speaker 7: in there that that that don't have one, so it'll
27:31
Speaker 7: be it'll be cool to bring in for sure.
27:34
Speaker 1: Can you go over the craziness that that went down
27:37
Speaker 1: there for you last year where you mentioned it's like
27:40
Speaker 1: minutes away and you're like, oh, cool, I'm moving now.
27:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:45
Speaker 6: So we so we were in Tampa.
27:48
Speaker 2: I had.
27:50
Speaker 7: Me and me and Vessio were actually at a casino
27:53
Speaker 7: and I get a call from from Goings and he
27:55
Speaker 7: was like and this was literally, like I said, maybe
27:58
Speaker 7: three or four minutes before the day line goes down,
28:00
Speaker 7: because I had heard all the rumors and everything, and
28:03
Speaker 7: I was talking with my agent about it and he
28:05
Speaker 7: was like, dude, I'm seeing the same stuff you are.
28:07
Speaker 6: I'm not hearing anything.
28:08
Speaker 7: And then Gums called and he was like, hey, we're
28:11
Speaker 7: trading to Boston and I was like all right, and
28:14
Speaker 7: then the whirlwind kind of started and I was like, shoot,
28:17
Speaker 7: I need to get back to the hotel and kind
28:18
Speaker 7: of be available to be on the phone because I'm
28:22
Speaker 7: sure I'm about to get a lot of phone calls.
28:23
Speaker 7: And yeah, I got like twenty phone calls in the
28:25
Speaker 7: span of like ten minutes. So definitely got bombarded right
28:29
Speaker 7: after that. The trade deadline is not a fun process
28:32
Speaker 7: for the fans or whoever wants to ask about it.
28:35
Speaker 6: You're going into a whole new environment and whole new everything.
28:37
Speaker 7: You're meeting all new people, all new players, and trying
28:42
Speaker 7: to trying to get your feet settled, and it's it's
28:46
Speaker 7: definitely a whirlwind of emotions because you're comfortable in one
28:51
Speaker 7: spot and then you just kind of get shipped off
28:53
Speaker 7: to another. So yeah, there's definitely a lot of things
28:57
Speaker 7: that go into it, but it was definitely fun to
29:00
Speaker 7: experience something different.
29:03
Speaker 1: So I have one more on this that I think
29:05
Speaker 1: adds another layer in addition to new team, new surroundings.
29:08
Speaker 1: Got to figure out where you're living real quick, right
29:10
Speaker 1: in the thick of a playoff race. To Usually, I
29:14
Speaker 1: think most teams that are in the hunt think that
29:17
Speaker 1: they have pitching whisperers where they'll be like, all right,
29:20
Speaker 1: here comes a player, and we're going to tell them
29:22
Speaker 1: all these things that we've been seeing and this is
29:24
Speaker 1: why we traded for him. So I'm curious, and I'm
29:28
Speaker 1: a little bit going off narrative and what I watched
29:30
Speaker 1: last year. But you used the sweeper heavy I know
29:32
Speaker 1: the Red Sox were really into the cutter. Can you
29:34
Speaker 1: explain kind of like how that process goes on the
29:38
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of the pitches, but then also how someone
29:40
Speaker 1: like you was supposed to navigate that. You're coming from
29:42
Speaker 1: another org, You're in the middle of the season, you're
29:44
Speaker 1: going to hit free agency, and here comes a team
29:46
Speaker 1: that traded for you saying we would like you to
29:48
Speaker 1: do this instead. How do you navigate that and like
29:51
Speaker 1: even disagree with them on certain parts if you want to.
29:55
Speaker 2: No.
29:56
Speaker 7: It was definitely cool to get over there and hear
29:58
Speaker 7: some different minds about how much stuff would work. Because
30:01
Speaker 7: I had definitely wanted to throw more cutters, more force teams,
30:05
Speaker 7: but it just wasn't in kind of like the game
30:07
Speaker 7: planing stuff during my time in LA at the.
30:09
Speaker 6: End of the year.
30:12
Speaker 7: So getting over there and they were just giving me
30:15
Speaker 7: ideas and stuff. They were very open to hearing me
30:17
Speaker 7: out and saying no, but definitely I wanted At that
30:20
Speaker 7: point of the year, I really wasn't throwing that great,
30:22
Speaker 7: so I was kind of up to doing anything, and
30:25
Speaker 7: then my nerve thing happened in September, so I didn't
30:29
Speaker 7: really get to finish the year out the way that
30:30
Speaker 7: I would have liked to at least being healthy. So
30:33
Speaker 7: definitely it definitely sucked on that end, but I feel
30:36
Speaker 7: like the stuff that they were wanting me to add
30:38
Speaker 7: in was definitely something that I wanted to do, so
30:40
Speaker 7: I bought into it. I like it.
30:43
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for the explanation, Thanks for joining us, DUS
30:45
Speaker 1: and always great to catch up. Do you really appreciate
30:47
Speaker 1: the time and the conversation and good luck have a
30:50
Speaker 1: great opening week of the season.
30:51
Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, much appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for having
30:54
Speaker 6: me on.
30:55
Speaker 2: Thank you.
30:56
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