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Everything's Great: Trump BS, Abdul Carter Fallout & MLB’s Money Fight · The Regulars

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  Welcome one and all it is a Thursday evening and what better place to be with your friends having a drink talking about all the great
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  Beautiful things in the sports world. This is the regulars. I'm Cody Decker. I'm Tonya Ray Fox
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  And everything is great. Everything's so good. Cody is not gonna yell tonight. Everything's great
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  I do feel like this might be a yelly episode. Everything's great
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  We also had we had a warning from mocha right before that the mics were going on
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  Yes, we cannot we're already yapping. We're laughing up until
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  Everything is great. There is nothing wrong at all in the world of sports anything being erected in
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  Washington DC right now. Oh
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  Definitely not an octagon on the White House lawn that everything's that would be idiocracy, which was a fake movie, right?
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  That wasn't a documentary mocha ever see aocracy
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  Yeah, well we're living in it, yeah, you don't need to rewatch it because it's
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  Literally on turn on CNN and you'll watch it. I
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  Like Mike judge I saw it like on T. It was one of those on TV movies
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  We just like randomly landed on it. Maybe three or four years ago. It was post Trump's first
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  Term and I remember being like at that point. I was like, oh no
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  Oh, no, and we are so much further down the rabbit hole now. Everything's great
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  Everything is great. And I can't wait to watch some UFC fighting just the way just the way, you know, Thomas Jefferson
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  Imagine did you hear that like a bunch of the people they announced a bunch of the like musical artists?
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  They announced that like we're supposed to be performing have pulled out because they were like first of all
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  No, secondly, we were told by whatever a booker that we were playing Washington DC. We didn't know this was what we were booked for
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  So they pull out milly-vanilla like whatever half of milly-vanilla was supposed to show the nilly isn't going to perform
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  Was like what? Well now now not everything is as great as it was just three minutes ago
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  Everything is still great. Let's let's watch some fighting. Let's watch some fighting in the Rose Garden
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  So excited to see some good old-fashioned fisticuffs down there the Rose Garden I haven't watched UFC in so long
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  Everything is great. Yeah. Oh and you know, we got other things to cover today
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  Because everything is great. The owners of Major League Baseball put together a
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  CBA proposal the the NBA is gonna stop tanking
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  Everything is great. Everything is great. By the way, you're not gonna be here on this next Monday
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  We're taking next Monday off and we will be back on Friday, of course, but why are we taking next Monday off?
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  I'm I'm storming the Capitol. Hey
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  Everything
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  Everything's great guys
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  Washington DC trying to enact change. Yes. Well, good luck because I don't know if I heard me. Everything's great. Yes
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  headlines
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  Just we're gonna kick this off with something that's so great we love to see
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  the Jackson dart has addressed his
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  His team his locker room over his Trump introduction cool, we're gonna get into a couple of the
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  Details around this that are a little bit suspect
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  He addressed his teammates Wednesday during a team meeting to discuss his introduction of President Donald Trump at an event last week in New York
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  These are non-mandatory OTAs, right? These yeah, these are OTAs. Okay. Yeah
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  optional
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  Non-mandatory, that's the what the OTAs is in there, right? Yeah, cool. So the whole team was that well
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  There was there was a good chunk of the team to be fair
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  Leaders such as Brian Burns cave on Thibodeau and James Winston were among those that spoke
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  Okay, I would love to know what Brian Burns and cave on Thibodeau said
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  Mmm, I could go my whole life without knowing what James Winston something about eating a W. Yeah
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  The Giants
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  You know among the things they discussed we're keeping things internal and not airing frustrations publicly
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  So you would think that was aimed perhaps at Abdul Carter who?
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  Aimed his frustrations publicly at Donald Trump. Well, you know what? I gotta say
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  I'm glad that this was addressed in the thing and Abdul Carter was able to be there to
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  Absolutely defend himself and say his piece so they can come to a good resolution as a team and everyone can grow
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  Well, that's the thing Cody. Hmm
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  Abdul Carter was not at the Giants facility Wednesday volunteer OTAs
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  So you say he celebrated a religious holiday and had family obligations
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  And he had previously communicated that he would not be at practice that day, but yes back in the building on Thursday
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  Well, man, what a what an oversight having this team meeting, you know
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  I guess we're just gonna have to do it again when Abdul Carter arrives
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  Honestly interesting choice to choose the day that they
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  Absolutely 100% knew that Abdul Carter who is at the center of this and absolutely should have been there for this
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  coincidence Tanya do you
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  coincidence pure
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  unadulterated not at all
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  national headline news
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  Coincidence you don't think that they're MAGA head coach
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  And
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  Their owner who is in who's allegedly in the
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  Everything is great. Everything is totally normal
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  so
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  They did it without Abdul Carter there
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  Despite the fact that Abdul Carter has endured a significant amount of criticism as well
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  Size but Abdul Carter has been criticized especially
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  for
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  being a distraction, yeah, and
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  So this is it. We've already a
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  Immediately, there are two things that stand out as a red flag. Yes
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  Number one Abdul Carter not being there for this meeting. I imagine that regardless of how he felt about it
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  I and I'm not gonna speak for him. Of course
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  He should have been there and to the fact that they are continuing to say they want to keep things internal Cody
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  I'm gonna ask you a really easy question. Let's hear
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  Was Jackson dart keeping things internal when he got on a stage and introduced the president of the United States?
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  You mean what you mean that time? He was pleasured. Mmm pleasure to introduce very pleasured
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  I want to make that abundantly clear because I'm using his words. He was pleasured. Mm-hmm
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  Hmm no, he didn't seem to keep that to himself
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  There do you try to do a go blue chant? Yeah, it's like he brought Giants business directly to a political stage
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  No, no, that's that's on you for thinking. It's political. Okay, how dare you think that this this this quarterback would go out there and
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  introduce and be pleasured by
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  Introducing the president United States who is very loved
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  I
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  Don't know I just I can't believe you're even insinuating such a thing. Yeah
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  Well, it was an honor and it was a joy. He would be basically like the rest of New York Sports Media
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  Who is kind of acting currently like this isn't really happening. There's a lot of
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  New York Sports Media seems to be a lot more concerned right now with
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  Abdul Carter, it's wild. It's wild. I will tell you that that we talked about this the other day
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  Yeah, this is the thing that is bothering me. I'm gonna I'll be freely honest with you
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  Yeah, I am NOT as bothered by Jackson dark and introducing Trump. I'm really not I do I like it?
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  No, do I think you should have done it? No
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  But I I'm not gonna begrudge somebody introducing the president, even though I vehemently disagree with
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  Everything this administration has done to this point and I vehemently disagree with anyone that supports it vehemently vehemently vehemently
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  But I'm I'm I just going to remember that's all I just will remember that you did this for sure
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  but I'm
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  Whatever if we get to do it if the left gets to do it the right can do it, too
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  Fine, if that's what it is, I think the left get to do it
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  Sometimes sometimes because I will make examples like Steve Kerr has gone out and done it and and Steph Curry of that big
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  I'm just has introduced at rallies. Yes. Yes a
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  Democratic route, right? Okay, but again, this is not about
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  So much that I do not agree with it I want to make that apparently clear just making sure we're on the same page
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  What I can't fathom is
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  How and I will say weirdly
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  Successfully, I might add that they are trying so
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  Embarrassingly to twist themselves into pretzels that Abdul Carter is the guy that did something wrong. Mm-hmm
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  This is batshit crazy
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  This is
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  Gaslighting to a degree that I don't I don't have time for like I'm willing to say fine
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  You can introduce whoever the fuck you want. That's not my business
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  This is fucking this is honestly
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  I'm gonna fucking disgust actually and every medium person that's going about it this way fucking shame on you
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  You're embarrassing yourselves and you're embarrassing the sport and honestly your own intelligence
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  Which I can only assume you don't have or you're bought and paid for it's one of two things
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  It's one of it's just one of two things
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  Yeah
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  Being afraid, you know
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  There's an element of it where we know that these leagues the owners the people in charge are lean more
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  Conservatively generally have ties to these types of people and so the media is telling the media has you know, Dan Labrador porting this out
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  Recently where he talked about, you know, New York is known as this tough sports media
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  Market, right? They're tough. They ask the tough questions. They know
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  Athletes, they're not tough on the people
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  Right. They're not actually ever
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  Investigatively tough they're not asking questions to root out the actual problems politically or socially
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  they want to be rate and or
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  Lecture to the teams and the athletes themselves. They want to cause that kind of drama
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  But the reality is these are not markets where the journalism itself is like high quality purely because they're so
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  wrapped up in you know reporting the right thing or doing the right thing and the and the fact of the matter is as
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  Far as when it comes to like, all right
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  If you want to say Jackson Dart has the right to go introduce Trump
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  No one's argued that right nobody's like he doesn't have the right to what happens is I have the right to also say shit
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  Right, there's backlash and the fact the matter is he knew there was going to be back
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  He doesn't care and
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  Everybody believed just like and this is why I think what Abdul Carter did was so important
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  everybody believed that just like with
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  Every other white bro who's gone out and made some sort of statement like this
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  That they were just gonna let it go
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  The Ravens last year after Harbaugh chastised the entire Baltimore media for asking him about
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  Like why he would stand by Donald Trump when Donald Trump constantly trashes the state of the city of Baltimore and he would
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  Jim John Harbaugh said straight up like I don't know why you'd even ask that question. That question is completely unfair
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  I support the president as much as I support my
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  quarterback, right ignoring the fact that the that that
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  The the president has a repeatedly trashed the city of Baltimore so they had called it Baltimore did their job
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  They said hey just so you know
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  You know this president what he says about this city the city that you represent the city that you say you love and that you're
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  Tired of you mean actually actual journalistic questions
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  The journalist a question like journalistic questions that people in say, New York the journalistic capital of the world would do
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  Yeah, I can't you know what the thing is about this and I'm not tying this into everything New York
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  But I've been working in the New York media for the last four years, right? I've been in the midst of it
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  It's bullshit. Mm-hmm. Literally all of it. It's just
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  La to though, but you know what at least LA is showing you its fakeness all the time, New York
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  You're standing on a pedestal standing on a pedestal is talking about their integrity when they are exactly the same thing
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  It's the exact same veiled reality TV show bullshit worse, but except you're wearing a fucking suit that is that's just it
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  It's no fucking different and it's actually asinine that they say it is
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  Just just be what you are and stop pretending that you're elites. You're not you're the same as everyone else
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  I am so tired of like the real the reality is let's say somebody really really liberal goes to
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  Ole Miss for example and makes an incredibly woke statement in front of a crowded Ole Miss
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  They're going to be get told that they are act that they knew what they were doing that there were
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  Antagonistic and that they knew what the reaction would be now on the flip side you have this this
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  Trumper, I mean Jackson art is mega. He's really mega playing for a blue city
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  represented by a
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  Democratic Socialist mayor
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  Incredibly blue city and the entire media suddenly thinks that it's not that oh, we have to just let it go
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  It's not that he's allowed to go do it
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  No stand on your fucking principles
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  And if all of you are just if you share his political values time to just admit that I'm so tired of playing this game
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  Just be out there and admit it
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  I'm so tired of playing the game of like my aiming Abdul Carter for hating somebody for supporting a racist
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  And I'm just you don't even have to you don't even have to pretend
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  That we like we know Donald Trump is racist, but this isn't like a question
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  So just be like no, I think you should be allowed to go hang out with a racist say that just say it
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  I just I I don't know what to say like it's
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  the talking out of both sides your mouth like we talked about the other people in the industry that are just like
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  Trying so hard to be like, oh you can't keep your opinions to yourself and your politics
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  no, but this is great because he introduced the president like it's just
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  the the the the ever the arrogance to have it both ways and to
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  Outwardly say it in real time
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  It's just we have to keep these things internal like so
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  So he's allowed to do whatever he wants on a national stage and none of his teammates can react
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  He is the golden white boy, by the way, you and I talked about this before just he's not fucking he's not Aaron Rodgers
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  He's not Tom Brady. He's not even Matthew
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  Who is this white boy that this is earned to this fucking platform to me man, it's so annoying
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  I feel like I'm on a different fucking planet at this point and I and it's mind-blowing
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  The narratives that come out being in sports media
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  Have you have you noticed this as well in the last couple years just how lazy they've gotten about narratives now
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  It used to be a little better veiled now. It's just so outwardly
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  every one of these media outlets is treating you like you are I
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  Fucking and you're letting them and you are allowing you're letting them and it's like the fact that they think this low about you
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  it's just
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  It's unbelievable and the idea that you're gonna sell me
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  I mean listen the Giants have just proven that they are an unserious pathetic franchise
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  Handling it this way having the the message be we got to keep things internal after the face of your franchise made it not
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  Internal and doing it without Abdul Carter there. You're a joke of a franchise
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  You're unserious and most of the country is now rooting for you to fail. Congratulations
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  That's that's where we're leaving that for now, everything is great. Everything is great. Let's move on to something else
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  That's incredibly great headline
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  Number two, the NBA draft lottery has changed league owners vote in favor of a new three-to-one format aimed at preventing
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  Tanking Cody tankings been solved everyone. Congratulations
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  By the way, they're so confident in this proposal. They're so confident
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  This is gonna work that they're only promising to do it through 2029 and then they're gonna reassess after baby
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  It's ironclad
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  ironclad shit
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  They're signing on to this for three seasons, that's how confident they are. Oh boy. Oh boy. Do you want to hear about this?
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  New lottery situation that is supposed to inhibit team from steams tanking Tanya. Yes
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  I do and you but I want you to do it this way
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  Okay, I want you to do it and make it make sense to me because I have read this and I'm not kidding
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  Times can do that for you. I don't read it four times and I still have no fucking idea what this means
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  I'm not positive if anybody in the comments wants to try to make it make sense. They can I'm gonna read it out loud
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  We'll go from go for it
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  Okay
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  The new policy which some have called the three-to-one format will increase the number of teams in the draft lottery while providing fewer
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  Chances for the three worst teams in the NBA to obtain the number one overall pick
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  So this is how it work the bottom three teams or three NBA teams with the worst records
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  Will receive two lottery balls for the number one overall pick those three teams
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  However can't pick any higher than number 12 overall in the draft the seven remaining
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  NBA teams that fail to make the playoffs or take part in the play in tournament will receive three lottery balls three
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  The four teams that secure the number nine and ten seeds in the playoff tournament will receive two lottery balls
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  The two teams that lose in the seven eight play in games will get one in the lottery ball
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  And additionally a team cannot win the number one overall pick in the draft in consecutive years
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  There will also be restrictions on teams picking within the top five
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  Consistently as no team will be allowed to win a top five pick in three consecutive years
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  Teams will also not be allowed to protect picks in the 12 to 15 slots going forward
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  Now, I think what's confusing you is probably what's confusing me and the thing that's confusing me is
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  This feels like they aren't punishing tanking. They're just punishing being bad
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  Mocha, you got all those you got all that right? Yeah, you heard everything. She just described
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  Make sense to you
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  Problem solved
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  Problem solved. Well tankings dead. Congratulations NBA. Yeah, I don't understand what likes to me
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  This isn't targeted at specifically teams tanking. It's targeted at being bad. And those are two different things. I
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  Like this isn't actually a dress I got nothing of purposefully there's nothing about this that makes sense to me nothing
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  Just taking away the draft lottery balls away from teams at the bottom three
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  How does that solve the problem they're still in the lottery yes
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  But they just have less balls
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  Yeah
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  And and they're rewarding teams who are a little bit better who are closer to the playoffs or may have made it but made the
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  playoffs or the play-in
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  What is this actually do it ensures that some of these bottom feeder teams stay bad longer
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  That's what I feel like it's gonna do I don't I think it's I mean, I think they got nothing
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  I think they know that's probably what's gonna happen, which is why they're only instituting it for three years three years
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  It's just this is this just doesn't make any sense. Well, did you say they unanimously voted? Yes on it?
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  I don't know because if they if they unanimously voted, yes
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  It's a stupid idea. I mean, well, of course, it's a dumb idea. So maybe there was a holdout
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  I got nothing. I this is the dumbest thing
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  I've ever heard as of now if someone couldn't get in the chat and tell me that this is a great idea
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  I'm all ears
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  This just seems like more honestly, you know what? This just seems like yeah, this is where I feel like
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  Everything loses me. I do not think adding more
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  Unnecessary bureau bureaucracy is going to help anything
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  Overcomplicating things doesn't solve fucking anything. No making things simpler and digestible
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  Honestly, it's just the best idea
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  but the problem is there's too many teams that they got to put in the playoffs because it makes too much money and now the
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  Bottom teams that clearly have only one real path to make themselves a better team
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  Which is tanking is now being taken away, but no it's not because this actually doesn't make any sense. I
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  I mean everything is great. That is the theme of today's show that everything's great
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  And that's great. I don't know. I don't know how you landed in this place of being like
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  Oppositionally delusional but listen, I'm with you Adam silver has solved tanking and
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  Let's just keep going with the show and the positive vibe
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  It's really weird to be like I've solved tanking the bad teams are gonna potentially stay bad longer
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  Yeah, but they're also still gonna be in the lottery
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  But we're just reducing their odds and we're giving higher odds teams that are better
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  So they're basically trying to they're trying to get the bad teams to be in the three ball tier
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  Like oh you want to tank but like you're not gonna get the three balls
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  You're only gonna get two balls and it's it's too now. You're asking these teams to tank mathematically it they're just gonna it's so stupid
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  Yeah bad news
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  Stop with all of this stupid shit the 65 game threshold
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  Which was supposed to every time they try to fucking solve a problem. They cause four more fucking problems
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  Stop it. Just fucking stop it. Stop trying to solve all the problems
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  You're just not gonna you're making shit so much more worse and so much dumber
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  It was like honestly, I will say the the the thing they were trying to solve with the 65 game thing where it's like
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  Oh, no more arresting your players. Mama. It wasn't even bothering me them. What who is this bothered by?
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  It's just always something they solve it with this. Oh that caused this problem this problem, which was
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  Actually worse than the previous problem while the actual issues that we're facing with SGA falling and flopping in
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  Doing the kind of stuff I've never seen before
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  Adam Silver comes out and he's like the refereeing has been amazing
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  It's like you're not even actually addressing anything that actually could be an issue
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  We soccer dealt with flopping all years ago and figured it out and somehow you're just getting on board
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  Okay, fine, whatever speaking of the Thunder headline number three
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  Cody yes
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  Should the Thunder make a play for Giannis in an attempt to when be proof their future?
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  No, I'm going to read you the prop position. I'm listening. Okay, and then you can decide okay, okay
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  I
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  Said the Thunder get through the series beat the New York Knicks to win their second straight
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  I think they likely will I hope not but I think they likely will with their young core locked in plus the treasure trove of
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  First-round picks and swaps press. He is accumulated throughout previous training more. We should be talking dynasty 13 more
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  Instead Oklahoma City might not even enter 2026 2027 as the favorite to win the title because we see where the Spurs are going
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  Do they stay the course with a team, you know, that's championship caliber
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  That's probably gonna get lapped by the Spurs or do they change the team to come back and kind of stay on top?
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  There's not you don't often get an opportunity to go for a player like Giannis
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  So that's the math that you're doing here is like we get this one shot
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  Under the current CBA the future for the Thunder is clear with SGA locked in and new deals kicking in next year for Jalen Williams
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  There will be precious little room to maneuver going forward and that doesn't include players who will soon get paid like Jared McCain AJ Mitchell
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  and
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  Cason Wallace
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  So the bottom line is Oklahoma City will not be able to keep this team together in its current form
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  Under the current CBA whether it's moving off one of its huge contracts or getting somebody, you know
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  Getting its bench split up or whatever else now
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  We have a little bit of a blueprint of what happens when you have to get rid of the
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  Important role players that you have and just keep your high-paid starts and it's the Boston Celtics
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  Yes, we saw how that went this year now granted. They were without Jason Tatum for most of the season
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  They get didn't get a chance to gel but they very clearly, you know
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  That's a team that needs to replace a lot of like star players that help them win their title
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  Do you think they need a Giannis in order to compete with the Spurs and when be moving forward no, you don't know
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  They have a very good blueprint
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  Why would you change the blueprint because this bench is gonna get harder to afford you're right
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  They've been drafting the next version of that bench and they will continue to do so for the foreseeable future all the way till
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  2030
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  I see no reason for them to change course now. They've won one title last year
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  Seemingly on their way to a second to a team in a defense that is currently not when be proof
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  Yet they're gonna likely beat when be one of these next two games now, I hope that doesn't happen
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  I'd like to see this first go forward
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  But this team seems to know very well what they're doing. Not only with their draft department with their
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  Developmental and they're what do you say? What if just I mean, I'm not against it if that's what I truly want
• 25:22
  But I don't see why listen. That's our job is to either be for it or against it. I know I'm I'm not
• 25:29
  Posing a different I'm proposing a different which is we don't know what's gonna happen tonight
• 25:33
  So this is only gonna be so evergreen, but fair let's say
• 25:38
  the Spurs
• 25:39
  Win tonight. Let's say the Spurs win this series somehow. Okay
• 25:43
  Now they're out the Spurs have beat them the Spurs are the Spurs got him. Do you still feel that way? Yes
• 25:49
  Okay, I do. I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie if the Spurs beat them
• 25:53
  Now with this team with Wimby at where he's at right now, I'm going to get you honest
• 25:59
  Listen, that's fine. By the way, and that is your right to do so
• 26:03
  I know but I don't I just can't see a world
• 26:06
  Where they just if they lose they're losing game seven of the Western Conference Finals and what has been one of the most I'm not
• 26:12
  Saying it would be embarrassing for just one of the most bad shit back and forth serious because here's the thing
• 26:16
  They've shown that they can stop Giannis. They've done it a couple of times this series. He's a baby. I agree
• 26:23
  He might only get better, but we're all
• 26:25
  Might only get better. It's not it's good to say injuries don't happen. I know but you can't count on that. You're right
• 26:32
  Listen, I I hear what you're saying
• 26:35
  But I mmm, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet
• 26:39
  I'm not everyone's gonna need a Wimby proof themselves like we're talking about here
• 26:44
  Yes, correct. The Lakers need a Wimby proofs themselves have nuggets need
• 26:48
  I guess what I find so fascinating about this is
• 26:52
  Wimby proofing yourself is a very difficult thing to do near it near impossible. Perhaps pretty much impossible, but
• 26:58
  Yon is becoming available. Is this tiny little window of helping you do that? It's not a he's hold on
• 27:05
  He's not the kind of player that just becomes
• 27:08
  available to a team and that's the only reason I'm entertaining this is because
• 27:13
  Giannis has a few more years in his physical prime that where
• 27:18
  You land with the right team and you land in on sort of a super to have your pieces
• 27:22
  How shitty would it be?
• 27:25
  That Giannis ends up an Oklahoma City. I don't I agree. I don't I'm
• 27:32
  I'm doing this as an unbiased
• 27:35
  Observer of basketball if I'm Sam Presti, do I want it?
• 27:39
  Fuck no. No, I can think of
• 27:42
  15 teams I'd prefer you on his go-to
• 27:45
  For entertainment. I'd rather go to the Lakers and I don't necessarily want him on the Lakers. No, I'll take him
• 27:50
  Yeah, I mean Giannis Luka that would be like a bazaar
• 28:01
  It doesn't need to happen no, but I mean there are so there are so many more entertaining places
• 28:07
  I would love to see him play. I mean, you know, I want him in Minnesota
• 28:10
  I want him to go to Minnesota guys. Oh god. Damn it. I want him with ants so bad if he's
• 28:15
  So bad, it would be really entertaining. I know
• 28:19
  I know you're terrified of it. I
• 28:22
  Yes, and I understand
• 28:24
  if he goes
• 28:26
  To top of this screw fuck everything else if he just goes to the Western Conference, it doesn't matter who he goes to
• 28:32
  Everyone the Western Comp the Eastern Conference is practically irrelevant now
• 28:37
  Can you imagine if Giannis goes to the Western Conference could be a real opening for the Knicks to start there
• 28:43
  They're their Eastern Conference
• 28:45
  Dynasty, but I don't know how they're ever gonna get past any of these Western Conference teams. We'll see you know
• 28:50
  We'll see maybe the Knicks will get Wembley
• 28:52
  Maybe they'll I mean, how about this? I do know for a fact that Wembley wants to be in New York. Really?
• 28:58
  No, I know that for okay
• 29:00
  They'd have to they'd have to basically just get rid of everybody but Jalen Brunson and that's fine
• 29:06
  But my follow-up question is why?
• 29:08
  You're in the finals. I mean, you're finally in the final. So you're gonna try to get this whole thing
• 29:12
  I will say this team if I were a GM and people might call me crazy
• 29:17
  Do I think that this next team's been amazing? Absolutely. I'm not arguing that and their fans have reacted
• 29:23
  Really totally really normally. Yeah to everything we said the other day
• 29:28
  They were mad at me
• 29:30
  why because I just said I don't like Nick fans because of and then every one of the Knicks fans responded and
• 29:36
  Just made my point sort of accidentally make your point for you
• 29:40
  They can't they're incapable of any other behavior. This is what they are
• 29:46
  I'm sorry, they just outed themselves
• 29:49
  In real time. I mean you they did and I'm not arguing
• 29:55
  But I also I also don't really by the way, okay see gets in the finals
• 29:59
  I have no choice but to root for the Knicks. I'm still I don't think they're gonna beat the OKC
• 30:04
  But I I'd be you said with it. You said last show you wouldn't root for the Knicks over the Thunder
• 30:16
  You get to root for cat which we agree we
• 30:18
  Always want to root for cat and I love Jayla Brunson. I love Josh Hart. So speaking of cat
• 30:23
  so that's the thing is that you in this situation no matter how much I do love this team and I
• 30:28
  Think that like it would not shock me if they won a title because they're on a heater right now and they just did it
• 30:33
  It would not shock me. Um, I would be I wouldn't bet on it, but it wouldn't shock me
• 30:38
  The thing is I don't see this team as a sustainable continue to go to the finals team
• 30:43
  I just don't they've had to kind of really nail the matchups get a little bit lucky with some like
• 30:50
  With the Celtics meltdown and some other things that happened. I do think
• 30:54
  That this is not a team that's gonna repeatedly go back to the finals in its current form
• 30:58
  They but but when better than now to sell high
• 31:05
  Cat all these you might actually be able to get some of your investment back on McHale bridges
• 31:10
  This has happened before this is this exact thing. Oh what happened in 1998? Oh, Jim. We're going back
• 31:18
  Yeah, we are having a baseball. Okay, so in 1997 the Miami sorry, the Florida Marlins won the World Series
• 31:25
  Yes, the Cleveland Indians at the time
• 31:27
  That team had Gary Sheffield Bobby Bonilla Jim Eisen, right?
• 31:32
  Kevin Brown
• 31:33
  Just name after name after name
• 31:36
  Kevin no, not Kevin Brown. Sorry Jim Eisen, right?
• 31:40
  Charles Johnson the catcher all starters, by the way, Jim, I read the left fielder Charles Johnson the catcher
• 31:46
  Gary Sheffield and Bobby Bonilla were all traded. Okay, Los Angeles Dodgers for their superstar
• 31:53
  Mike Piazza and Todd zeal. Mm-hmm. I
• 31:57
  Loved these players that we got because they were phenomenal
• 32:00
  Yeah, half of the starting lineup of the defending World Series champions, right?
• 32:04
  I wanted Mike Piazza and Todd zeal to remain Dodgers, right?
• 32:08
  This was a tough tough day for me. So what I say there's precedent of trading away half of a championship team. Yeah
• 32:16
  Immediately after winning a championship. Yeah, it does exist. I don't like it, but it does exist
• 32:22
  Listen, I watched I watched Belichick do it a lot during their run like the way that they sustained
• 32:28
  Teams and now grants and I understand the NFL is different than the NBA
• 32:32
  But like their ability his ability to say, okay great. Thank you for this incredible Super Bowl run now, we're selling high
• 32:39
  We're gonna get money every single star
• 32:41
  Cornerback or whatever whether they were homegrown or whether they were free agents
• 32:44
  He'd get make money off of them. He'd get picks for them and he just turned them over turn them over and
• 32:48
  While it's different strategies if there's still a principal that can be involved. So that's just uh, that's another theory on how potentially
• 32:55
  Things go even even if they win a title well
• 33:00
  Interesting, let's just say that way. Hey, listen, I've made it abundantly clear no matter what everything's great
• 33:07
  Yes, and everything and by the way Cody, yes, everybody believes you when you say that everything's great
• 33:12
  I totally believe that you mama Fox you believe me yet. Everything's great
• 33:17
  Well, everything is also great I'll tell you somebody who's really trying to sell us on that is JJ McCarthy right now
• 33:24
  Guy continues to rub media and fans the wrong way amidst his QB battle with Kyler Murray
• 33:32
  So there's a video here of both Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy
• 33:38
  reacting to or answering the question about how they're handling their sort of
• 33:42
  Relationship as they move forward toward this quarterback battle into the into the offseason and preseason, right?
• 33:47
  Kyler Murray media-trained seven-year vet says all the things you expect to hear from a quarterback in this
• 33:57
  Thing from Dan Turner who I agree with
• 34:00
  Our last topic we're talking about the Oklahoma City Thunder. I just saw this dad. I apologize. I should have said it at the time
• 34:06
  Okay. Oh, no, how to replace the bench with all these 76 first-round picks
• 34:12
  76 first-round
• 34:17
  Yeah, but also just drafting a bunch of young players doesn't put you back in the title contention like that's not how it works
• 34:23
  I don't know it did this time. No, it didn't
• 34:25
  Years to build into this they did right now. They're just gonna continue. They're not
• 34:31
  If they have to sell off those players, I promise you that bench is gonna change the consistency of that team
• 34:35
  Oh, yeah, they're not gonna you're only gonna get more and more of those first picks overall and what is it gonna matter?
• 34:41
  They're gonna be going up against Wembley and a team that's actually fully like for a for a short time
• 34:46
  Yeah, they're just gonna replenish and all of a sudden just be a dynasty forever. No, why are you so weird about the Thunder?
• 34:52
  They're gonna have like it's like it'll be fine. I see the future
• 34:57
  No, you're not
• 35:00
  That's simply not true rarely
• 35:04
  JJ McCarthy is super weird
• 35:06
  He answered the question bizarrely and was I said like Kyler who for for all the shit
• 35:12
  Kyler Murray's gotten over the years for not being a great leader or being checked out or not working hard enough
• 35:18
  He was like, yeah, we're like, I love working with him. We're working really hard. We're getting along blah blah
• 35:23
  JJ McCarthy asked the same question was like we sit in the room across from each other and
• 35:29
  That's cool. He answered it so weird. He has like this guy
• 35:34
  The part of me that is really frustrated with JJ McCarthy is I see how Kyler Murray was treated for being
• 35:41
  like for being perceived as
• 35:44
  Enigmatic and sort of like out of touch and like not a great person on the mic, right?
• 35:48
  Yeah
• 35:48
  I see what happens to Shadour who is always
• 35:51
  Incredibly charming and cool to the media and like seems to always say the right thing
• 35:55
  I see what these
• 35:56
  quarterbacks all the shit that they're given and then
• 35:58
  JJ McCarthy ever since he's been in the NFL and specifically last season into this just never
• 36:05
  Constantly sounds like an asshole. He has done nothing to earn our belief that he should be a starting quarterback
• 36:13
  Everybody believes Kyler Murray is gonna be the starter for a reason because he's a much better quarterback the idea that that we're even discussing
• 36:20
  Whether JJ McCarthy could win a quarterback battle is a fucking joke
• 36:25
  I don't think I don't know how tapped you in you are to the NFL very but I think
• 36:30
  well, I just meant like I
• 36:34
  Meant like the current NFL OTA situation not like NFL overall. Yes
• 36:41
  You asked me a question I know that did sound wildly condescending that's not what I meant
• 36:46
  I don't know if you heard of this national
• 36:49
  You ever heard of the Minnesota Vikings I have I have so this is who I'm talking about. Oh cool
• 36:55
  What color uniforms that they were?
• 36:58
  You're never gonna believe me, but it's purple. Oh
• 37:01
  Everything's great
• 37:03
  So this is what pisses me off is like there is no
• 37:07
  Kyler Murray is in a different stratosphere as a quarterback
• 37:13
  It's not even we should be laughing at the idea that JJ McCarthy
• 37:17
  We should be laughing in his face
• 37:20
  We should not even be
• 37:21
  Entertaining the idea of them selling us on a quarterback battle if I was in the Minnesota Vikings media
• 37:26
  I would be there being like so you guys are gonna stop lying to us, right?
• 37:29
  Because one of these dudes can't throw the ball and the other one is somebody who is one of the greatest
• 37:35
  College passers we've ever seen who can throw the ball still 70 70 air yards without trying
• 37:40
  Like come on and the whole media is like well, we think Kyler's probably gonna win the battle. Oh my god
• 37:46
  When are we gonna stop fucking playing this game? When are we gonna stop playing this game?
• 37:50
  we're not gonna stop playing this game because football is king and football is desperate to make themselves that the
• 37:56
  Desperate housewives. I don't know what else to tell you. We all you asked the question. When are we gonna start laughing?
• 38:01
  I have been laughing
• 38:04
  This isn't a story like that's why I think this is hilarious. People are trying to make it a story
• 38:11
  JJ is kind of a weird little douche
• 38:13
  Seems kind of on point that seems like a normal thing. Yeah, that was a weird-ass comedy said yeah
• 38:19
  He's not starting for this team. Kyler's
• 38:22
  Kyler is such a better quarterback than him. It's not even I don't this is like not even a
• 38:28
  Conversation like so the fact that we're even asking JJ anything is kind of funny to me
• 38:34
  The only thing you should be asking him is how do you feel that you lost your job?
• 38:38
  How is it gonna feel to back up Kyler Murray this year? Are you ready to cut back up Kyler Murray?
• 38:42
  Are you mentally prepared for that? Do you think you can learn from Kyler Murray?
• 38:46
  These are really the only fucking questions since we asked JJ McCarthy right now, right? The fact that anyone's asking him anything else is
• 38:55
  It's a delusional waste of my time meanwhile the same question
• 38:59
  Everybody's assuming should or hasn't locked up the number one there
• 39:04
  There's actually there so the whole thing is just so backwards and the reason it's a story is because reverse it
• 39:10
  Reverse the situation and Kyler Murray is the worst quarterback saying stuff like that. It's a different conversation
• 39:17
  Arrogant entitled. Oh my god. No, no, no, it'd make no mistake if Lamar Jackson said what fucking JJ said
• 39:25
  We know what we know what the fucking undertones is this is racist ass shit undertones always just what it is always
• 39:35
  It pisses me off on Kyler Murray's behalf because
• 39:38
  I've told you this. I believe the Arizona Cardinals are like slightly more
• 39:45
  Dysfunctional than even the Cleveland Browns. I find them to be the most dysfunctional NFL team
• 39:50
  across the board and as soon as he leaves and he lands with the Vikings who everybody knows are one of the best run organizations
• 39:56
  Have an incredible coaching staff have Kevin O'Connell who is considered the quarterback whisper as soon as he lands there
• 40:01
  He is perfect in front of the camera. He says exactly the right stuff. I'm just wait for it right now
• 40:07
  I'm gonna call it right fucking now. This team is gonna win. I'm trapped in this this guy's name is winning the division this year
• 40:12
  I'm drafting him in fantasy. I don't know what's gonna happen the Green Bay Packers, especially with this fucking Josh Jacobs shit
• 40:17
  That's going on right now cuz listen, I know we know
• 40:19
  He was released. I don't know enough about this at the moment
• 40:22
  I don't feel like they've released enough about this at the moment
• 40:24
  So I don't feel confident really discussing it, but if he is guilty of what he's been accused of being released means
• 40:32
  Yeah, if he is guilty of what he's being accused of this guy's going to jail for a long time
• 40:37
  Yeah, period stop. Yeah, period that's monstrous shit if he fucking did this. Yes
• 40:42
  So you got that looming over this team you have your other star that on defense?
• 40:47
  Who's coming back for an injury at some point looming over this team Jordan?
• 40:50
  Love is he even your guy to be honest you paid him for your guy?
• 40:54
  Yeah
• 40:54
  But is he gonna play like you the guy you paid for he could end up being more of a Kirk Cousins guy very much
• 41:00
  So and by the way, nothing that Kirk Cousins is a solid quarterback. Yeah, but I see the guy that's gonna get you the Super Bowl
• 41:05
  That's my question for you Green Bay Packers because I know what the Green Bay Packers are your Super Bowl or bust
• 41:10
  In this division the Bears, I think they're gonna be good. But how good I don't know was last year again
• 41:16
  I'm not doing this again with the Bears doubt. I'm not doing no. No, I'm not
• 41:20
  But they were so good last year and it kind of it
• 41:23
  I'm not saying it happened overnight, but like man, they took a big leap last year new coaching staff
• 41:29
  I'm not suggesting a sophomore slump, but is their dominance going to continue?
• 41:33
  I'm interested to find out the Detroit Lions are still not slouches in that division. This is gonna be always
• 41:39
  This is going to be a fucking good division
• 41:44
  Every one of these teams are gonna beat the shit out of each other
• 41:47
  This does feel so to me Kyler Murray if he gets the Sam Darnold treatment, right?
• 41:52
  Yeah, because I mean by and large the Vikings
• 41:57
  Rehabbed Sam Darnold to the best version of himself. He went on to the Seahawks and sort of soared, right?
• 42:02
  We saw the best we saw that Sam Darnold could be a an
• 42:06
  A1 starter in the league because he was on the Vikings that what this is what the fucking Vikings do exactly
• 42:10
  If that's what Sam Darnold can do. I can't let's be honest. Let's be on talent wise
• 42:16
  Ceiling is higher. Yes. Now it I'm interested to see it man. This could I I'm just saying
• 42:22
  They have to make sure that o-line is strong strong, but I'm just saying this
• 42:26
  Could it backfire? It's a nightmare. Yeah, it could
• 42:32
  Fucking master, dude, so there's two people I've gone out on a limb for
• 42:37
  from the start of their career
• 42:39
  Caleb Williams and Kyle Kyler Murray
• 42:41
  I really was like I Kyler waiting for the Kyler breakthrough over and over and over again
• 42:45
  I got the Caleb Williams breakthrough nice and easy early great. I
• 42:50
  Gave up on the Kyler breakthrough in car. I was like, it's just not happening. He just does it's not happening now
• 42:55
  I'm back in and I'm nervous. I'm back in but and listen, I wasn't I'm a Michigan football fan
• 43:01
  Thanks for the title JJ. Also, I watched it. Thanks for
• 43:06
  Rushing so well, you're not gonna do that in the fucking NFL. You're not big enough. You're not strong enough. You don't have it
• 43:12
  I'm right. You don't have the legs Kyler has
• 43:16
  No
• 43:18
  Nothing that Kyler has I've seen Kyler win games
• 43:22
  Single-handedly and I watched him do it against the Raiders once to which I just I was so apoplectic with rage on how he did
• 43:27
  this
• 43:28
  listen, I'm
• 43:30
  The Vikings are the most interesting team to me going into this season because of the Kyler Murray little yeah
• 43:35
  I'm really interested to see what they do. I'm excited. I'm actually legitimately excited. I'm so excited for football
• 43:40
  See, I'm really glad I introduced you to the NFL just now. Thank God because I'm not tuned into this
• 43:46
  national
• 43:48
  Football you call it football. I'm so glad that we're actual friends so that you know, I'm not a fucking asshole
• 43:53
  That was insane. You knew what I meant. Could you man explain me what this sport is?
• 43:58
  Please
• 44:00
  Football was soccer. Oh boy. Thank you. Thank God. I'm here for what actually that'd be a great title for a
• 44:06
  Podcast for you. Well, man, splaining woman's winning woman's planning sports. That is what I do
• 44:13
  So just just a great idea
• 44:16
  Crazily, I wasn't actually asking you that it did sound like Cody. Have you ever watched fucking?
• 44:21
  I
• 44:30
  Don't know if you watch the NFL
• 44:37
  Everything's great. I'm gonna let you take this one. Uh, I will I will
• 44:42
  introduce it and then I'm gonna let you go on a little bit of a roll because you've been on top of this since
• 44:48
  We've started this show talking about how this might be coming
• 44:51
  The MLB has proposed a salary cap and a salary floor in their latest CBA
• 44:57
  negotiations with the Players Union
• 45:00
  specifically the league is proposing a salary cap including benefits expenses of
• 45:07
  245 point three million a salary floor of
• 45:11
  171 point two million a 5050 revenue split between clubs and players and
• 45:15
  Local revenues would be centralized and also shared equally
• 45:20
  so
• 45:22
  Question one before we start anything. Yeah, I initially read this at first going
• 45:26
  So this is the salary floor
• 45:27
  but is there a difference in a salary floor of what the salaries will be or is that money actually included with the
• 45:35
  benefits and expenses
• 45:37
  To including that so what is the salary floor actually a hundred and fifty million and there's benefits that get added upon it
• 45:45
  That equal like 20 million dollars. Well, it doesn't matter. I guess not. Yeah, but
• 45:51
  That alone. Yeah is
• 45:54
  Stupid. Okay, and a problem. Okay, and will only cause problems and it's already making this confusing but
• 46:01
  Let's talking but but let's just ignore that. Okay, forget all of that. Let's just say it's we're just going with the whole
• 46:06
  70 171 point two million dollars of the floor. Okay, that's a great floor
• 46:10
  I
• 46:11
  Would love to just find out why you came up with this number, especially because the cap being at two hundred and forty five million
• 46:17
  point three dollars
• 46:19
  Okay, so
• 46:22
  We have leagues that have salary caps, correct? Yeah, that's cool
• 46:25
  So we have like a base and model that technically works. Absolutely in the NBA. That's an ironclad thing
• 46:32
  There's no problems in the NBA that they're trying to fix due to financials, correct?
• 46:36
  With the salary gap, yeah, well, you know like there's not like certain teams like tanking or anything
• 46:44
  No, no, no, yeah, we didn't just talk about how the NBA is trying to fix just me just I'm asking because
• 46:50
  How about this? This is really great because if the salary floor is
• 46:54
  67% of the cap
• 46:56
  That's got to be really good. And let me just look at that one salary cap league that we were talking about the NBA
• 47:01
  Yeah
• 47:03
  So they must spend the same amount I mean it sucks about the tanking thing
• 47:06
  Yeah, but if they're spending at least 70 at least 67 percent of the cap
• 47:12
  The like I guess I guess that's fine, right? So what what does the NBA pay and the floor?
• 47:19
  90 Oh 90 percent of the cap, but they have a tanking issue, right?
• 47:23
  But they pain every team even the worst teams the ones that are tanking pay 90 percent of the cap, correct?
• 47:30
  Huh?
• 47:32
  What about the NFL they have a cap how much of the cap do they pay as the floor 90% 90%
• 47:38
  So where the fuck did this?
• 47:41
  67% come from just for starters just for fucking starters. I'll tell you where it came from
• 47:47
  It came from all of them teams that currently
• 47:51
  Claim poverty. Oh the small market
• 47:54
  We can't spend that they will never sign up to have to spend as much as the Dodgers and the Yankees and
• 48:02
  The Red Sox and the Phillies. Well, listen, I saw someone say that Major League Baseball is losing billions of dollars every year
• 48:08
  And I believe them because they have opened their books and showed us this mathematical financials
• 48:13
  And you know what the World Series last year didn't have a moment Major League Baseball isn't more profitable now than it's ever been
• 48:19
  They didn't just sign a huge TV deal for the three years coming up in this next little go-around
• 48:24
  No, then they're losing money because they told us so and the
• 48:31
  Embarrassment of people on social media, especially you media people carrying the weight and water of this
• 48:36
  Nobody carries the water of the league more than baseball people. I don't know why in
• 48:41
  Barrett well, maybe the and by the way
• 48:43
  I saw one guy even say like you nailed this players got to get on board their first proposal. They nailed
• 48:50
  None of it makes sense. None of it
• 48:53
  Also, if you're gonna propose a revenue sharing split of 50-50 cool
• 48:58
  That means you're opening up your books then right?
• 49:01
  Right. What don't they have a current revenue share right now?
• 49:03
  They do but if you're gonna do a 50-50 you're gonna open up your books, right?
• 49:08
  right
• 49:10
  Because how will I know what the revenue is? Are they opening up their books?
• 49:14
  That's the big question around the NBA the same the question that also exists in the NBA around their books as well guys
• 49:20
  Stop carrying weight in water for millionaires. Stop it. This is this is this is a non-starter
• 49:25
  Also, there's no they don't address. I don't know if you saw anything, but did they address what they would do with?
• 49:31
  Pre-existing contract my knowledge. No to my knowledge. No, but and by the way, I really thought it was embarrassing
• 49:37
  And this this is actually the thing that pissed me off because so many people were just showing their ass right out the gate
• 49:40
  They're like and yeah, these six teams are over the limit. There's like 14 under. Yeah
• 49:49
  They are telling you to your face that every team can afford this
• 49:53
  171 point two million. There's no telling you to your face what they can. Yeah right now
• 49:59
  nine teams would be would likely be over the proposed cat figure this season and
• 50:06
  Not all of them are good. And by the way, I just want to make this abundantly clear
• 50:09
  I did see one tweet that I do understand and I do understand it on the surface
• 50:14
  But I need people to really understand the difference and I understand what this guy was saying
• 50:18
  I truly do because he's looking at as a baseball fan perspective and I do get this. This is the argument I get
• 50:26
  Who are you guys? Oh great guys
• 50:28
  Who are you rooting for the billionaires of the millionaires and I understand that as a fan writing that out
• 50:34
  I actually in 2026. I actually don't actually you know what I you're right. That's fucking stupid a couple years ago
• 50:40
  I wouldn't have now. I'm fucking exhausted. No, that's really let's just break down and I've done this on this show
• 50:46
  I'm doing this on every show I possibly can do for the rest of my life because I need you to understand what a fucking
• 50:51
  Billion is you need to understand what a billion is you need to understand what what?
• 50:56
  Billion is and this drives me insane
• 50:58
  We'll just figure it out on something that we can all understand and that is time a billion seconds to a million seconds
• 51:07
  Teams are worth billions and billions of dollars
• 51:09
  The Lakers just sold for ten billion dollars San Diego Padres just sold for like four or five billion dollars
• 51:15
  San Diego Padres that small market team in San Diego just sold for like four billion dollars
• 51:22
  four billion dollars
• 51:24
  billion in seconds to a million seconds a million seconds Tanya
• 51:29
  Do you know how long that is? I don't tell me Cody eleven point seven days
• 51:32
  Okay, do you know how long a billion seconds is I do not thirty seven years
• 51:38
  Understand what the fuck we're talking about
• 51:42
  billions millions
• 51:44
  17 days
• 51:46
  37 years that's not billions. That's one. Oh, no one million dollars is
• 51:52
  worth seven eleven point seven days
• 51:57
  37 years
• 51:58
  Why do billionaires collect hold on and hoard their money more than anyone else?
• 52:02
  Why are they more worried of losing money than anyone else in the world?
• 52:06
  37 years if they gave away a dollar every
• 52:10
  second the
• 52:12
  Basically a billion dollars is a billion dollars more than a million that is
• 52:24
  One billion dollars more than a million that is the difference
• 52:28
  There are not comparable and the idea in
• 52:31
  2026 of understanding that they that billionaires are oligarchs the amount of power that they hold in in their hands and
• 52:39
  Comparing it to somebody who is worth a hundred million dollars
• 52:42
  You have a calculator Cody just explained it to you
• 52:46
  I just explained to you millionaires versus billionaires is like saying it's like making a joke out of millionaires versus somebody on welfare
• 52:54
  They are so far apart that you're just being an obtuse asshole at this point
• 52:59
  If you don't know the difference
• 53:00
  I will always every single time without fail root for millionaires over
• 53:06
  Billionaires and I will remind you that a lot of people within the MLB also the NFL are not millionaires
• 53:12
  They are people who are feeding that system who never make millions Cody played professional baseball
• 53:19
  Never made millions. Sorry to open the books on you Cody. Nope accurate
• 53:23
  You know, like there are so many NFL players who will have three-year careers who do not
• 53:29
  Remain millionaires who are making league minimums that will be gone
• 53:33
  That they can't even afford that housing come on guys
• 53:37
  Like don't be this fucking obtuse if you are not smart enough to not root for millionaires over billionaires at this point
• 53:43
  Especially when they are the workforce that drives every single thing about these billionaires
• 53:49
  Investments you are a fucking bootlicker
• 53:53
  I'm just I'm baffled by how little people know about all this. I'm baffled by how many people just just
• 54:00
  The the fact that people just automatically
• 54:03
  Defend billionaires is so alien to me, especially when everything bad about their life is because of billionaires. I
• 54:10
  Just can't like are you gonna defend the oil billionaire? Like I'll give you an example
• 54:16
  These are the people that I deal with on Twitter. This is like I'll read this to you
• 54:19
  Can you read TV revenue sharing evens the playing field? That's why Green Bay. That's why Green Bay can win. Damn. You are ignorant
• 54:27
  Can you that's not what
• 54:29
  I'm surrounded by I'm surrounded by fucking idiots. Yeah, I'm surrounded like that's
• 54:34
  I'm surrounded by fucking idiots. I do this is idiots. These are you're all idiots
• 54:38
  I know my mom and is dying right now because this is all I do is I'm like
• 54:42
  Listen to this asshole, and I just read these like I'm in bed. I'm surrounded by fucking idiots guys. No
• 54:49
  You guys wonder why I'm losing my mind. I don't wonder because I'm in it with you, dude
• 54:53
  That's why we're on this podcast just sort of losing our mind slowly at the same time. Why why are sports fans?
• 54:58
  So fucking stupid
• 54:59
  well, it's it's sort of an America problem and it just like
• 55:03
  Sports are a microcosm of the bigger issue
• 55:05
  Like I just I'm so exhausted and so tired
• 55:09
  You know what?
• 55:09
  There was one really really really and by the way does just so we're all clear spending money definitely correlates to winning championships, right?
• 55:16
  Can you can you name the teams that are in the top six that are not allowed?
• 55:19
  Because right now the Mets are the worst team in baseball the Phillies just got back to 500 the Toronto Blue Jays are under 500
• 55:27
  The Cubs are on a 10-game losing streak. So exactly
• 55:31
  Exactly. What does spending money correlate to winning? I want to quote something right here the former Mets GM
• 55:37
  And he was the he wasn't the full-time GM. He was the interim GM for a while there. His name is Zack Scott
• 55:44
  He wrote out in a few tweets a very good breakdown of this and
• 55:48
  Hearing an ex-GM kind of actually say this out loud is kind of refreshing
• 55:54
  He doesn't go into super details, but I do like how he does after 20 years of
• 55:58
  Inside MLB front offices here are five C seasons of data that about the salary cap to date
• 56:04
  Payroll explains about one-third of why a team actually wins the other two-thirds is part of a cap conversation
• 56:12
  Is the part the cap conversation isn't actually about and he writes in disclosure
• 56:16
  I I came in not a fan of the cap pitch
• 56:19
  He goes on to say the data every MLB team's tax payroll versus winning percentage five seasons
• 56:25
  2022 to 2026 this correlation lands to at
• 56:31
  0.57 r-squared
• 56:33
  Plain English about a third of winning correlates with spending your money about one-third the other two-thirds
• 56:40
  100% has nothing to do with your spending
• 56:43
  So what makes up the other two-thirds four buckets roughly in in this order of impact?
• 56:49
  acquisition scouting draft trade
• 56:53
  signings
• 56:54
  Development is huge turning B prospects into major leaguers governance owner alignment
• 57:00
  who's in the room how much runway baseball ops gets and of course last luck a
• 57:07
  Cap changes who's allowed to spend it doesn't change the other two-thirds of the actual equation if owners are selling this as a
• 57:16
  Compensated competitive balance the data doesn't support this pitch. So what's this cap?
• 57:23
  conversation
• 57:24
  Actually about yes
• 57:27
  Correct question. What's it actually about?
• 57:30
  It's about making billionaires and their corporate hedge funds that they are owned by
• 57:35
  More fucking money and getting players
• 57:39
  Paid less money and getting you to be dumb enough to go along with it
• 57:46
  That's what they're banking on. I'm banking that you will all learn and
• 57:52
  Meanwhile the NFL
• 57:56
  Notable cap hit League
• 57:59
  notable salary cap League
• 58:01
  saw
• 58:02
  The Chiefs in five of six Super Bowls in a six-year span
• 58:08
  The Patriots repeatedly were in three of four Super Bowls in four or five years
• 58:12
  But the Dodgers go to two World Series and everyone's freaking the fuck out
• 58:16
  the the NBA has is
• 58:20
  known for their
• 58:22
  Dynasties Major League Baseball's had more parity in their world championships than any other major sport
• 58:30
  Period and those three other major sports are all salary cap leagues
• 58:35
  So what the fuck are any of you talking about there?
• 58:39
  Yeah, those MLB billionaires are jealous of the NFL and NBA billionaires. They want their cut of the pie
• 58:46
  And this is what it's always been about and by the way if they're losing so much money
• 58:53
  Why are teams selling for more money? Why are more people buying teams to a losing?
• 58:59
  Organization that's not what people with a lot of money do so either
• 59:04
  It's the same bullshit that they were trying to sell us about the WNBA the WNBA is not profitable
• 59:08
  It is oh except suddenly everybody wants to own a WNBA team and they're sinking billions in the WNBA
• 59:13
  You guys think that these people are fucking honest about their books
• 59:17
  But you know for goddamn sure that every single billionaire on the planet is lying
• 59:22
  They don't even pay taxes let alone tell us open up their books majorly fucking real
• 59:28
  Baseball isn't subject to antitrust laws like they make their own
• 59:33
  like
• 59:37
  Did anyone take
• 59:39
  Any government classes in college? No, they just are they're just always going to look
• 59:44
  I'll tell you what the problem is though. They're gonna look at a workforce like the ML even the MLB
• 59:49
  Which is very white compared to the NBA in the NFL. They look at these workforces and they say
• 59:55
  Why are those brown people black people Dominican people Puerto Rican people making so much money
• 1:00:01
  I'll tell you that I'm telling you right now because you know what you don't hear. You know what you don't hear whatever
• 1:00:06
  What's that people complaining about hockey contracts?
• 1:00:09
  No, you ever heard somebody complain about a hockey contract in your life
• 1:00:12
  No ever once ever once in your their salary cap to right
• 1:00:16
  But why isn't anybody ever complaining that those millionaires are negotiating for more money? Not sure
• 1:00:23
  Because I thought I grew up in Boston and I can tell you right now
• 1:00:27
  It has never fucking happened one single fucking time ever
• 1:00:32
  Interesting not one single fucking time as somebody been like, I don't know
• 1:00:36
  It seems like Sidney Crosby's being a little bit greedy. They don't fucking care
• 1:00:40
  That's a white ass league with white ass people watching it and they love for their players to get paid
• 1:00:45
  But when it comes to a league full of Dominican and Puerto Rican players
• 1:00:49
  South American players when it comes to a league full of bat black players
• 1:00:52
  Oh suddenly, we don't want the millionaires to be making their money
• 1:00:56
  I'm just gonna say just so we're clear just as an insider from a from from a hockey viewing city
• 1:01:03
  No one's ever been worried. What one of their star players is being fucking paid. Okay?
• 1:01:11
  Listen this is this is going to be awful
• 1:01:15
  Do you think that the players will get will give up? No, I
• 1:01:22
  Want to make this is gonna be a lot. I want to make this about right clear and maybe maybe
• 1:01:26
  Something has changed. Yeah, I've left. I don't think I don't think it has
• 1:01:30
  When I say that it we don't it wasn't in our bylaws to say the least but I will say
• 1:01:37
  There's one rule for the set for the Major League Baseball Players Association. Just literally one
• 1:01:42
  We will never agree to a salary gap. That is literally rule one. That is like step one
• 1:01:46
  It's never gonna happen never gonna fucking happen. You start any conversation with that the conversation doesn't start
• 1:01:50
  Go ahead lock out the league Major League Baseball is doing better
• 1:01:54
  This is the other thing that I think we all listen. I
• 1:01:57
  Give Rob Manfred flowers when he deserves it and I do think there are many times when he does
• 1:02:02
  He's certainly not the worst commissioner. He's not even close
• 1:02:04
  In fact, I really think and I'm and I'm the best commissioner of the four. Can I say this right now?
• 1:02:09
  I would say Rob Manfred has been a drastic net positive for baseball and it at where it is right now
• 1:02:14
  I've truly believed that and I
• 1:02:16
  Boy over but ceiling. Oh
• 1:02:22
  But I'm just saying he's had many issues and he's done a lot of great things as well and I've gotten to know
• 1:02:29
  Rob Manfred a little and my interactions with him have honest to God been really lovely
• 1:02:35
  Like I've gotten along with them really well, by the way, people say Roger Goodell is a really nice guy, too
• 1:02:39
  It's funny. I've only met him once
• 1:02:41
  Yeah, they're nice enough, but I will say although I think Adams lovers kind of scary
• 1:02:45
  But Rob Manfred going on Pat McAfee and saying how it's not a sustainable business model. Mm-hmm
• 1:02:52
  Well, he was talking wasn't he talking about the TV?
• 1:02:54
  He was first talking about how the the discrepancies of a 400 million dollar payroll to a 75 million dollar payroll
• 1:02:59
  He's like that's just not a sustainable business model. It's been the model
• 1:03:04
  Yeah, it is, you know how I know it's a sustainable business model because Major League Baseball has never been more popular than it is
• 1:03:10
  Right now we just had 51 million people watch the game seven of the World Series
• 1:03:14
  Baseball is in the midst of a boom and you're gonna go on national TV saying we just can't sustain this is
• 1:03:20
  Fucking just disingenuous to the nth degree
• 1:03:23
  but there I mean this is and this is really where I what I want to make sure people know from this segment is
• 1:03:30
  It will shock you if the players are even willing to enter into conversation about this specific by the way, by the way
• 1:03:35
  So people like I what what is the players associations counter proposed gonna be are they gonna take in the cap?
• 1:03:40
  No, you do know that they have they don't have to even acknowledge that they sent them the cap
• 1:03:45
  This is not like the beginning of we're starting here. No, this is a non-starter. You know, CBA
• 1:03:50
  So the CBA is up after this season, right? Yeah, right after December 1st, it's over
• 1:03:56
  You know what, I hope it was gonna happen
• 1:03:58
  I knew this is no human way. This was gonna happen, but I hope I wanted it to happen in a pie-in-the-sky world
• 1:04:03
  I wanted them just to sign an extension to the current CBA for three years
• 1:04:07
  You know why I wanted that to happen. It's no of course. It's not gonna happen. That's a fucking that's a great idea
• 1:04:12
  That would actually help baseball in a very good moment what they're having the reason why it's not going to happen is
• 1:04:18
  Because that's when the TV contract comes. Yeah, and that's what this is really all about
• 1:04:24
  They want to get a salary every CBA they want to get this salary cap in right now because in three years when Major League Baseball
• 1:04:32
  created a big
• 1:04:33
  TV discrepancy problem and then signed a three-year deal with all these companies that was
• 1:04:37
  Seemingly really mutually beneficial to everyone like they could have done it from day one
• 1:04:41
  But it ends in three years
• 1:04:43
  then they get to sign a mega deal with someone like Apple Apple TV Plus or Netflix covers all of Major League Baseball for
• 1:04:51
  Ten billion dollars and guess who doesn't get any of that fucking money. Mm-hmm. That's what this is about
• 1:04:58
  That's what I firmly believe. This is about well, I
• 1:05:02
  Firmly believe that there's no chance that the players union accepts a salary cap
• 1:05:07
  They this I mean that player you know, I have no
• 1:05:12
  Leverage like I don't think the league has the kind of leverage that they think they have
• 1:05:16
  You guys are the ones who finally got your league a little bit of popularity
• 1:05:21
  the players are not you think these players want to be among the generation of players that after
• 1:05:27
  130 years gave away a salary of
• 1:05:31
  The only unsalary cap league you think these people want that on their fucking?
• 1:05:36
  Absolutely, not you have been functioning like this quite literally since the 1800s
• 1:05:41
  I would be I would know how about this. I'll make this abundantly clear. I'll be very
• 1:05:45
  Very disappointed
• 1:05:47
  Disappointed I will stop watching baseball. I'll be very good you gutless losers
• 1:05:50
  I like you guys we have spent a hun we have spent nearly a hundred years
• 1:05:56
  Creating the the first and only strong player Union. Yeah, the only one
• 1:06:03
  This is this is the year they can actually break it. Yeah, it's literally it if if you give up now
• 1:06:11
  It's over and that's
• 1:06:13
  Yeah
• 1:06:15
  By the way, it will come to that it will come to a lockout
• 1:06:18
  It will you like if you want to hold on to your salary cap, it will come to a lockout
• 1:06:21
  They are very very dug their heels in you've been predicting this that they're gonna dig their heels in
• 1:06:26
  You're going to have to dig your heels. It's going to happen
• 1:06:28
  And unfortunately, they're all gonna kill the golden goose of what we have right now
• 1:06:31
  Which is the single best version of Major League Baseball. We've ever had. Yeah, and you know it I
• 1:06:40
  don't know what to say other than
• 1:06:42
  It breaks my heart. I hope I hope somehow cooler heads can prevail. I don't see a world where it does
• 1:06:48
  Yeah, the end don't know what to say
• 1:06:51
  this sucks
• 1:06:53
  Good luck everybody
• 1:06:55
  Everything is great
• 1:06:57
  We have a we're gonna go over to media corner great. This is uh, this is just kind of a fun little exercise
• 1:07:03
  I'm gonna put you through Cody. We're gonna put it each other through it. Um, I have a graphic for you
• 1:07:08
  And we're gonna pull that up and I'm gonna I'm gonna show you nine people in sports media
• 1:07:13
  This has been circulating the internet
• 1:07:16
  And you have seen it. Okay good and
• 1:07:19
  You in in this exercise you are allowed to choose two of these mics to turn off forever
• 1:07:25
  We're gonna fix sports media by turning these mics off forever. Now, here you go up on the screen. These are the nine
• 1:07:32
  Men of course good men
• 1:07:37
  Men's doing a lot of heavy lifting for a couple of these. Yeah, these nine Jason with men allegedly have nine people wearing
• 1:07:44
  Ties, okay, whatever. Um and and you can choose from this group to turn off two mics forever
• 1:07:51
  It's gonna help us fix sports media. Okay. Um, yeah, so do you just wanted to pick my two or well
• 1:07:58
  what I want to do is kind of kind of go through with you and
• 1:08:02
  Let's eliminate a couple of people on here be from even being part of this conversation
• 1:08:08
  All right, let's go ahead and start with that Colin coward is fine. I don't have an issue
• 1:08:11
  We know coward is I worked with coward. I like Howard. You can reason with coward. He's fine. He's fine
• 1:08:16
  I have no issue with Kendrick Perkins whatsoever. Kendrick Perkins one of the nicest people I've ever met
• 1:08:24
  Very sweet he works hard
• 1:08:25
  I think we need to learn how to distinguish you don't like their takes from I need to turn their mind by the way
• 1:08:32
  There's a lot of people on the I think a lot sometimes people will put people on this list where it's like
• 1:08:36
  I don't like their takes and it's like that's a different thing than them acting in bad faith. So can we agree?
• 1:08:41
  We're not considering not an issue. I'm not keeping Nick right like Nick, right?
• 1:08:46
  Absolutely does not belong in this Nick right really should not be on this and Chris Collins worth. I
• 1:08:51
  I'm actually why is he on this one? I don't well, so people hate Chris Collins worth. I'm not gonna lie
• 1:08:55
  I'm kind of a Chris Collins worth fan. Okay. Yeah, I don't I actually like
• 1:08:59
  Me in this listen, I am so he has a big hate campaign on the internet people hate Chris Collins
• 1:09:04
  He's a big Mahomes glazer. Like this guy. Why he calls her homes is bad or something
• 1:09:09
  No, no, because he's no to be fair. He literally compares everyone to Patrick Mahomes. It no matter what game he's calling
• 1:09:19
  I guess he does do that. Yes, he does it a lot. But I will say I think he's like I think he's
• 1:09:25
  Nostalgic and funny and like I he doesn't bother me. He just simply doesn't bother me the way he bothers other people
• 1:09:29
  So, all right, so we've eliminated
• 1:09:31
  Perkins coward Collins worth and Nick right from this conversation. They don't belong in it
• 1:09:36
  You know what? I'm even and you might not I'm a pat back. I'm fine with I'm yeah
• 1:09:42
  Listen, I I understand the undertones that bother a lot of people about Pat
• 1:09:48
  I've never been bothered by Pat
• 1:09:51
  I've always actually I'll I don't but the other thing is and this is true and this is not me saying I've never watched
• 1:09:56
  Pat's show or his work other than like clips that are posted
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, and every time I've been and I've gotten to know Pat a little every time we're out Pat. I've really liked them
• 1:10:05
  He's like he's been nice to me. I've been nice to him. I mean listen
• 1:10:11
  When it comes to Pat McAfee, I don't think I I don't think he's always acting in good faith
• 1:10:17
  No, I will say that I don't
• 1:10:20
  There he he's sort of got a worse version of him on this list in Dave Portnoy
• 1:10:25
  Like if you're gonna go after the like sort of mega coded white guy
• 1:10:30
  Pat's not the worst one and we we kind of talked about this in the preseason in the preseason in the pre-show meeting
• 1:10:38
  This this leaves us. Okay with the skip Stephen a Dave Portnoy and Jason. So do me a favor
• 1:10:44
  Can you throw that graphic back up one more time? I think it's important to be see faces. Okay
• 1:10:50
  I just I need to eventually cut this into a clip and I cannot cut it. Okay, well go ahead and pull that down
• 1:10:55
  No, thank you. So I'm gonna pull I'm gonna I'm gonna pull skip Bayless off this list. Okay, I'm down with that
• 1:11:00
  You know, I yeah, he's fucking irrelevant. So that's the reason I'm gonna pull Jason Whitlock off
• 1:11:05
  It's the same reason I'm pulling Jason Whitlock off of this. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, here are my picks
• 1:11:10
  Stephen a Smith fucking cut his mic get fucking sent him to Mars fucking worthless waste of our space waste of our breath
• 1:11:16
  I the less we talk about him the better. Yeah, he's an obvious one. And yes, it's part of it personal. Yeah, fuck you
• 1:11:24
  That being said, yeah, Dave Portnoy Dave Portnoy also and here's why and this is my reasoning for it and
• 1:11:35
  Why the fuck does Dave Portnoy have a mic to begin with I work in sports I play professional baseball for 11 years
• 1:11:42
  I dedicated my life to it. I
• 1:11:45
  Highly educated in my sport and all sports I have been working my ass off in the
• 1:11:51
  journalistic space and the fucking radio space and the television space and I've worked
• 1:11:56
  in sports at a high level now for
• 1:12:01
  21 years
• 1:12:04
  Dave Portnoy
• 1:12:05
  has
• 1:12:07
  No fucking idea about sports in any way shape or form. He's never been a part of sports
• 1:12:13
  He doesn't know anything about sports
• 1:12:14
  He's never made a take on sports that makes a semblance of sense outside of a drunkard
• 1:12:19
  Out of sight of a bar eating a slice of pizza that he found on the sidewalk
• 1:12:25
  There is literally no reason to listen to him about and I mean this
• 1:12:30
  Fucking anything and the fact that he's even in this industry or anyone that works under it like all those barstool guys
• 1:12:36
  Yeah, why the fuck does anyone listen to any of them?
• 1:12:40
  Like I I don't get it it make my fucking am I taking crazy pills? No, I mean you're not taking crazy pills
• 1:12:45
  We know what that they're they're a like bro culture sort of deal, right? But to your point, I'm just
• 1:12:53
  Last time anybody talked about Dave Portnoy's sports takes. He's not a sports take guy
• 1:12:58
  He's never been a sports take guy. In fact, I would venture to say that regardless of how you feel about
• 1:13:06
  Pat McAfee or
• 1:13:08
  Jason Whitlock even or Stephen a Smith, right?
• 1:13:14
  Insult to all of them to even include Dave Portnoy here
• 1:13:19
  Actually does not talk say what you will about Jason Whitlock who you and I both despise spies. I
• 1:13:26
  Really really I'm uncomfortable with Jason. Well, he's gentle. You're you're so fucking gross
• 1:13:32
  It's beyond it's beyond the like Stephen a Smith of it all
• 1:13:36
  Really really, so, you know, I don't want to make this abundantly clear. I hate Stephen a Smith. Yeah, it's really do I'll take to
• 1:13:48
  I don't hear anything you say, but you're a gross fat at the very least
• 1:13:52
  He's been talking about sports for the last couple of decades. Yeah, I know where he stands on to his credit
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  He's worked in sports in a semblance. I don't right Dave Portnoy's just a
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  Fucking short Bostonian with hair plugs and that's literally it that's that I know him more for that than I do sports
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  I can't when I tell you I cannot think of a single sports take of his that's ever stuck in my mind now
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  Whitlock who I don't like or some of these other people at least I remember some of their sports takes because they are memorable in
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  Any way shape or I don't like even a Smith in anything
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  He does but Stephen a Smith has worked in sports and at one point was almost respected, right?
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  So like that is that's part of this equation for me, too
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  So I when I went through all of this and I I mean I I realized it looks kind of funny that I am in
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  immediately eliminated people I worked with for years but like fact the matter is I worked at a
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  Place where I really did respect coward and Nick, right?
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  But I also landed on Stephen a Smith mostly because like we've heard enough
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  I think Stephen a Smith has talked enough for four lifetimes. We're done. We're good
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  Everything he needs to say I'm done and Dave Portnoy is useless and he is loud and I don't like it
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  So no, but useless is the best possible word and and that's the thing is like he's not even a good
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  Villain right like he's not even a good villain in the sports space like Whitlock will be on out kick saying something
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  really like
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  homophobic or like
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  Racist right and at least we're like this guy's just a fucking villain
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  Portnoy is
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  Like he can't even form a coherent sentence. I don't know if he got a degree or not
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  Can I be honest?
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  I I don't understand why poor noise on this list that like that's honest
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  Like this is a list of sportscasters and a poor so like which is kind of an example of like his it like I don't
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  Know where he came from or why he is relevant and that's kind of like it sort of sums it up
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  yeah, like it's just it's just I
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  Don't understand it's like it you're and I'm asking the square and I really like it really does bother me to see him next to
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  Like Nick Wright and Colin Coward
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  I'll go step forward. I think I don't like that. He's even a next to Stephen a Smith exactly
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  No, I don't like Stephen a Smith, but like our audience knows that
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  I can't stress enough
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  No, no, no, no, they both suck, but come on one sucks
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  All right, so we turned off Dave Portnoy and Stephen a Smith's mics forever. We fixed sports media for oh, no, we didn't
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  No, we didn't do that. No, if we had done that we would yeah
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  We'd there'd be a few more people to come for but for now, that was a fun little exercise
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  We made we don't normally have a very light segment or like a fun sort of silly segment in media corner
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  I'm glad we had a moment where we got to not talk about CBA shit and the darkness of billionaires and how they're ruining
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  And all of your lives, but some of you
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  Seemingly are okay with that and want them to ruin it more for some reason
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  You know what? The thing is going back to the CBA. Oh my god. Have we not talked?
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  No, I just think it's really important because everyone's like I've also seen other amazing takes like I want it to be affordable to take
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  my kids
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  Because show you Tony's got a contract is not why this is not affordable like
• 1:17:18
  Why are you what like at this point? It's a choice to be this stupid. It's like a decision
• 1:17:23
  You've made a decision that you're going to be stupid. That's a that's a choice
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  Okay, originally this story was not in the rundown. I
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  Added it. It's a choice. Mocha. Why are people choosing?
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  It's weird we are 15 minutes over
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  You're not wrong Cody, you're not wrong. You're not wrong full-on choice. All right, let's uh, let's hit pop culture corner before we go. Oh good
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  Everything's fine. This is actually great
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  This is interesting
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  Pop culture corner we get to talk about the increasingly insane discourse online of people comparing
• 1:18:06
  Modern music artists and their fame to Michael Jackson because Michael Jackson's biopic has come out
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  there's been a lot of conversation around Michael Jackson's fame and just how obviously how impactful he has been and
• 1:18:19
  Because of that sort of coinciding with Drake deciding to drop three albums at once
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  there's a lot of conversation around Drake right now because he's
• 1:18:29
  There the fans are trying to compare him to Kendrick the whole deal
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  He just surpassed Michael Jackson in some sort of number one billboard thing and all of his fans are like see
• 1:18:39
  He's bigger than Michael Jackson
• 1:18:41
  Now this has repeatedly be been a thing that happens where it's like
• 1:18:45
  Some people will say Beyonce's more famous than Michael Jackson or Drake's more famous than Michael Jackson or Britney Spears is more famous than Michael
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  Jackson or Taylor Swift is more famous than Michael Jackson and I want to be
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  Incredibly clear Cody. Yes
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  There will never be an American music artist
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  More famous than Michael Jackson. It will
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  Never happen and I'm gonna tell you why I'm listening. I by the way, I want to make it this abundantly. Oh god
• 1:19:15
  Yes, I agree and I will I will tell you my reason why after as well
• 1:19:19
  But I'm wondering if your reasoning will be the same as mine. We'll see
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  There was a very
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  Specific moment in time and this is why both Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan are talked about in a very specific
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  way now
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  And it why it's so hard to compare other people to them from
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  the beginning of night so from about
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  1980
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  Through the 1990s where they were at the very peak of their adult fame
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  Cable and the internet
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  happened at
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  In concurrent timelines cable hit us in like 1979 or whatever. It was we had CNN we had MTV
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  cable happens changes the entire
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  Entertainment landscape and what enters into your home?
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  Yes
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  it does then the internet hits us in in the 90s and that starts giving us even more access and
• 1:20:14
  But it is before social media. Yeah, I would say the internet
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  Really took off and then I'd say what mid
• 1:20:22
  2000s to 2010 social media begins
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  So so we're talking about the prime of no social media
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  Very little internet, but it's just started to form just enough that we can start to share. We're not into music sharing yet
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  We're not into music at the time. It was it was it was electronic mail. We're in traditional
• 1:20:42
  media, but cable has just exploded and
• 1:20:45
  The people who were famous at the time that happened were suddenly
• 1:20:51
  You could be in everybody's home their TVs and
• 1:20:56
  There was this visual medium of music videos. There was this visual medium of
• 1:21:01
  NBA games being able to actually be broadcast into your homes outside of your network all these things right
• 1:21:07
  Highlights on ESPN those two things made people like
• 1:21:12
  Have the level of fame that we we can't relate to anymore. There was no there was no media saturation of
• 1:21:19
  Everybody that we have now there weren't people there was no ability to just become famous
• 1:21:25
  Through social media or the internet and there was no there wasn't the complete
• 1:21:30
  Disconnection of the newspaper age and the media age and the internet age
• 1:21:36
  And there was no there wasn't the complete
• 1:21:40
  Disconnection of the newspaper age and like this just the movies, right?
• 1:21:44
  We had this perfect portal the perfect moment in time where you could become a global
• 1:21:50
  superstar, but you were still
• 1:21:52
  It still required you to use an old
• 1:21:55
  Media tradition of in terms of the way you got to your fame very much
• 1:22:00
  So we're talking about Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan is two of the most famous people
• 1:22:04
  That like get treated as though we actually can't really surpass them in terms of success or fame
• 1:22:10
  And that's for a reason because know that their ability to reach
• 1:22:15
  Global superstardom at a time where it was difficult to become famous is a moment in time. We can't read we can't
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  We can't reenact right? Yeah
• 1:22:27
  Can I I'll give you my reasoning and it's along the same lines everything you said is absolutely, right
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  I'm just gonna look at this practically
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  So like when you see that Drake's got like the number most number ones of all time
• 1:22:37
  That's that's a there's an impracticality on what that actually it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't mean the same
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  It doesn't mean the same thing as you know
• 1:22:43
  Because albums versus it's exactly the business model of music changed in the you have to actually be genuinely very
• 1:22:50
  very dense to believe that Drake you have to be an idiot, I mean like
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  It it I understand that people have become anti-intellectual and they try to find the numbers like I don't know if they're too young
• 1:23:01
  There can they don't understand. There's no way you could ever believe that he has the level of success or fame of Michael
• 1:23:08
  I can't stress this enough the purchasing of a single now is
• 1:23:11
  ready-made on your phone ready to go and it just gets put in your phone or in your Spotify Jackson was in if this was
• 1:23:16
  Available Michael Jackson would it would it would be it's it's another level like you don't assume
• 1:23:21
  Like to listen to a Michael Jackson to listen to the song Thriller you have to buy the Thriller album to listen to
• 1:23:28
  The to you know, one of the songs on bad you had to buy the album bad people spent
• 1:23:34
  $20 at a time when $20 was really
• 1:23:37
  $40 for a CD of Michael Jackson and all of these artists to have full I still have
• 1:23:44
  400 CDs in a booklet
• 1:23:46
  I still have a ton of digital meat like actual physical media physical media was such a part of our lives
• 1:23:52
  It's Thriller if you could have just logged on to YouTube and Spotify and listen to and watched Thriller
• 1:24:00
  It would have been watched a
• 1:24:03
  Trillion times. Yes, it would have hit 1 trillion. They would have broken every record. I don't know what to say
• 1:24:09
  There's we don't have anything like we're just not talking about the same thing. And by the way, that's not a knock on Drake
• 1:24:15
  That's not like an anti-drake statement. This is just fucking fact
• 1:24:18
  It's like saying like the music industry is not what it was
• 1:24:21
  Like no NBA player will ever be as famous at his peak as Michael Jordan is not a knock to another me
• 1:24:27
  No, it's just that was the reality of the time
• 1:24:30
  It's the same thing when we talk about ratings and sports these days ratings
• 1:24:34
  Don't mark Cuban even went on TV the other day and said yeah, the ratings model doesn't matter to any of them. That's not
• 1:24:43
  Live ratings is not how we also to be getting that I will say it is a knock on Drake
• 1:24:47
  Just and I'll and I'll knock on Drake on this. Um, I mean Kendrick's better
• 1:24:51
  Kendrick's way better and also so is fucking Michael Jackson. You know what actually now hold on real quick
• 1:24:57
  Fuck anybody comparing Drake to Michael Jackson. Fuck off
• 1:25:07
  Listen listen, there's a couple Drake songs in my rotation. They're always gonna be
• 1:25:13
  Hotline bling's a jam
• 1:25:15
  There are a few in there that'll never leave my gym playlist. Thanks
• 1:25:20
  But Michael Jackson, he's Michael Jackson get the fuck out. You know what? Yeah Kendrick first
• 1:25:25
  We're comparing apples to Michael Jackson. We're comparing apples to Michael Jackson
• 1:25:31
  We can't do that. We can't be doing that. I'm just saying we can't do that. Everything's fine. Everything is fine
• 1:25:36
  But um, we can't get to Curt Schilling on Monday
• 1:25:42
  And you say that's not everything's fine that we should be able to get to Curt Schilling
• 1:25:46
  God damn it. Everything is fine. You were totally gonna put it on Monday's rundown and now I'm not gonna be here, huh?
• 1:25:51
  I don't have to talk about next Friday. Damn. Well until then
• 1:25:54
  Like share and subscribe and most importantly fuck you Curt Schilling. Fuck you Curt Schilling