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#23: Enlightened Capitalism, Psychedelic Wisdom, and Humanity’s Destiny with Satyen Raja · Love Conquers Fear

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  Love already conquered here that we're catching.
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  Up. That's ultimately my whole
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  purpose with this is to help humanity in every way I can
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  transcend into that age of abundance.
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  And it really started with us conquering fear within ourselves
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  and being loving towards ourselves and getting outside of
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  our comfort zone and then helping manifest that in others.
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  Leading with love is the only way that brings us fulfillment.
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  Why would we not want to lead our families?
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  Why would we not want to lead our businesses from love?
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  It's path of least resistance, maximum impact.
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  Not only does it feel good, not only does it create environment
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  of consciousness to awaken and goodness to flow between people,
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  these can be some of the most powerful accelerants of our
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  evolution and powerful ways to heal the parts that
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  psychotherapy and traditional methods might take weeks,
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  months, years to even come close to.
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  Who can transform in minutes? When I take psychedelics, I take
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  them for very, very sacred reasons.
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  It's a really, really important catalyst to go inside and get a
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  transmission from myself. To something is truly super
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  intelligent, it would see the incredible brilliance of
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  sentience that we are. It would not destroy us.
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  It would say, ah, this is where this consciousness meme levels
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  of this whole population for some are here somewhere here
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  that it'll support the alignment of everyone moving collectively
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  to a higher evolutionary art. It's going to usher in one world
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  mammal. We shall make it through all
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  darkness. We shall make it through all.
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  Fear and love conquers all. Welcome back everybody, to Love
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  Conquers Fear. I hope you really enjoyed the
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  last episode with Katie Brown. Wow, that was really powerful
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  and I wish her the best of luck with Scorpion Creek Ranch.
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  I spent time with her afterwards with my wife Deborah, and we're
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  looking forward to hearing the full pitch and and probably
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  getting involved. She is a she's a really powerful
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  force. And today is going to be very
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  special because you get to meet Sachin Raja, who is her teacher,
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  one of her mentors, and I'm proud to call him one as well.
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  But before I get to that, I want to give a shout shout out to
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  Jeff Birmingham, who is on book tour right now for a book called
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  The Last Book, a Human or Right. And it's an amazing read.
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  I finished it recently. It really was helpful to me and
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  thinking about how we transcend as humanity into this age of
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  abundance for all. He's very clear eyed about that
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  and about the challenge in doing so.
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  And I'm looking forward to having him on the podcast.
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  But he and I are for sure brothers in arms to help
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  humanity during this really critical time.
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  And, you know, there's going to be a lot of light, but there's
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  also always dark. And the way we use technology
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  really matters the most. And he's had many transcended
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  experiences in his life, which he writes about in the book,
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  including the fact that he actually ran for governor in his
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  home state of Utah. And he talks about that and the
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  pandemic hitting and all the trauma associated with that.
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  And he has had a phenomenal, phenomenal career, and he
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  unpacks that as well. But ultimately, this is his soul
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  calling too. And I'm finding more and more
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  people like that showing up for the mission during this really
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  important time where we lock arms and really do the best that
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  we can to help humanity. And as I've mentioned many times
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  on this podcast, there's a lot of people bringing the light
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  from Dimmissibus to Mustafa Suleiman to Fifi Lee, Mira
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  Morati, Eric Schmidt, and Reid Hoffman and many others.
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  You actually heard on the episode with Jeremiah Owing how
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  we were both raving about all the great work that Reid Hoffman
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  is doing. And so there's a lot of people
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  bringing the light in this time. And that's one of the things
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  that gives me great faith in humanity that we're going to
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  make it together. So I'm going to keep this intro
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  short because there's a lot to unpack with with Sachin Raja,
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  who actually met at the Renaissance weekend.
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  I went to that for the first time recently.
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  And why don't we start there, Sachin?
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  Yeah. It's good to have you here, man.
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  Yeah, It to be what? What an honor.
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  Great to be yours. Mutual honor, my friend.
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  Yeah, why don't we talk about how we met there because that
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  was that was interesting circumstance.
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  And you wrote this, this really beautiful LinkedIn post, you
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  know, after you went back to your place in Vancouver and I
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  went back to my place in Austin. But honestly, the best part of
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  the Renaissance weekend for me, I really mean this from Bond.
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  My heart was meeting you and becoming friends with you.
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  It was amazing. You know, I was also deeply
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  moved by our connection. And you know how these
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  alignments, synchronicities happen.
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  We listen to the call. Yeah, there was a talk on
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  psychedelics and there's AQ and A at the end of that.
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  And then I shared from the Q&A realm, I said, hey, you know
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  many of you have talked about the mental health, well realms
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  of psychedelics, but you're missing the core of it.
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  It's indigenous core of awakening, spiritual awakening,
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  healing, profound transformation of being and connecting to our
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  higher forces in Mother Gaia. When I expressed that somehow
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  later you circled with me and you said, hey, we need to meet.
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  Yes. And this is the fortuitous
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  flowering of that connection. And when we met, I was so moved
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  by the fact that here you are an Uber successful business leader
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  who has had a profound awakening and now wants to steer his
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  intentions to the greater good as a whole.
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  And to me, that's where out of meta intention would meet a
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  profound connection. And then to feel your humanness,
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  you're down to earthness and just you're you're man to man.
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  I think we've really met on many.
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  Levels, yeah, we really have. Great.
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  I'm so grateful. Yeah, I'm sure we've met in
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  prior lifetimes too. This is not the.
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  This is not the only one. We know that exactly.
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  And many more to come. Right, right.
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  Exactly. And many more to come.
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  So in terms of in terms of that conference, was that your first
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  one? It was my second conference.
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  We should give a shout out because that conference was
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  really, really great. It was.
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  It was my first one. Renaissance Weekend was an
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  incredible conference. I was invited by my friend
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  Jackie and I've never experienced before.
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  The first one I went to was in Canada only a few months before
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  that. Oh, OK.
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  And then when I went to this one in Newport Beach, I was like,
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  wow, the the quality of beings, the leadership, there's an
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  energy of everyone is here for something bigger than just their
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  own interconnections and networking.
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  We're here to learn, we're talking masters of every realm
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  here to learn and share. And I feel that these type of
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  containers like Renaissance are doing such a great job of
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  curating, bringing brilliance together where we're saturating
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  and up leveling each other. For sure, right.
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  Yeah. I mean, major shout out to them.
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  What they've curated. There's very, very special.
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  And I have to be just totally honest that I went in with low
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  expectations. I did not know what I was
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  getting myself into and I told my wife I because I go to, to a
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  number of conferences, my favorite actually being Ted, the
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  main Ted conference in your, in your town.
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  The Vancouver is amazing. And so I, I was like, well, you
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  know, I'm not really sure if this is going to be a good use
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  of time. If it's not, I'll just, there's
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  a lot, a lot I need to do. I'll just work in the hotel
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  room. But I found myself almost
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  immediately very engaged in it. And you could really tell that
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  people there were vibrating with a lot of love, a lot of deep
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  connection, and it was very unique.
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  The sessions were very, very unique.
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  You could hop into lots of topics where they're real
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  experts. It actually helped inform the
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  Lattice. You know, my, my science fiction
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  novella, There's a part of the lattice where we and these other
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  aliens called the sailors. This is by the year, I think
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  2060 create a universe itself. And it's based on the bubble
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  universe theory, which I started dive into from the astronomer
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  at, at the, at the Renaissance weekend.
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  And it just started to click and I started to really learn more
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  and more about that. And as I, as I project this
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  acceleration that we're on, I'm like, you know, there might be a
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  time where we could do that with some other advanced race.
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  And anyways, it was fun, fun to explore, but it motivated me a
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  lot. It motivated me to write the
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  next two short stories that actually formed that book.
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  You know, this coming together of people with clarity, potency,
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  heart, ability to make changes on the planet and the calling
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  from within them. I'm seeing it opening like a
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  wave. Yeah, I'm a powerful wave in our
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  circles, and it's extraordinary. And I know fellows like us are
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  here to help foster that. We're help to guide that,
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  support that, Yes. And make these containers
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  support these containers. So brilliance, heart, potency of
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  action, that's for the greater good.
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  It's galvanized and supported. So this is the era we're in.
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  And everyone watching this is part of that.
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  All right. That I'm excited about.
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  It's not true. Is everyone involved?
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  Yeah. Is watching it.
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  Yeah, I get a lot of light from from putting this out there.
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  And that's ultimately my whole purpose with this is to help
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  humanity in every way I can transcend into that age of
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  abundance. And it really starts with us
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  conquering fear within ourselves and being loving towards
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  ourselves and getting outside of our comfort zone.
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  You know, that old saying that there's no growth in the comfort
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  zone and then helping manifest that in others.
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  And as an entrepreneur, I've spent my entire career doing
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  that, you know, believing in people in a way that they didn't
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  even know what was possible for them.
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  And the best highs I've ever gotten from entrepreneurship is
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  seeing people do things that they deemed impossible,
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  especially when they get together and then go on to start
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  their own companies. You know, my, my company before
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  Dated Out World. We'll see, we'll see, We'll see
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  how this happens at Dated Out World now that ServiceNow has
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  bought it. But before at Bizarre Voice,
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  there are now more than 70 companies started by former
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  Bizarre Voice people. And the biggest compliment they
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  give me is how they took the culture with them.
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  And it was deeply rooted in love.
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  And that was that was the number one thing I was trying to do at
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  Bizarre Boys. And I think that's a huge reason
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  why I was rated the number one company work for in Austin when
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  it was small, then medium, then large.
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  And it's a choice. It really is a choice.
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  As a leader, you can choose to lead with love or you can choose
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  to lead with fear. And the lead with fear is very
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  toxic. Leading with love is the only
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  way that brings us fulfilment. They might get quote UN quote,
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  success with leading from fear and any models of the past.
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  And because the momentum of those are there, much of
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  businesses run from that old momentum of fear, control,
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  greed, hoarding, all of the, as we know the lower motives.
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  It's brought us to where we're at.
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  We can totally condemn it. We got to take the good from it
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  and grow it. But leading from love, Why would
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  we not want to lead our families from love?
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  Why would we not want to lead our businesses from love?
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  It's the path of least resistance, maximum impact.
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  Not only does it feel good, not only does it create an
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  environment of consciousness to awaken and goodness to flow
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  between people, it's also our natural calling.
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  It's our true nature. And because it's aligned with
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  our true nature, success becomes multidimensional.
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  All right, financial, relational, family well-being,
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  all of these aspects foster when we lead from love.
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  All right. You know, I want to ask you
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  about the conference you just had here because Katie Brown on
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  the last episode was just raving about it.
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  And I want to make sure I give a shout out to it and really honor
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  that container that you created. You said there were about 120
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  people there, which is really a good size.
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  Yes, To have intimacy and I think it was 3 days long, right?
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  It was 3 1/2 days long. It was our first Impact
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  Accelerator Summit led by organization Warrior Sage.
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  We're bringing in together founders of positive impact
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  companies of all types, of all positive passions and
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  intentions, some smaller, some global changing concepts.
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  We brought together incredible investors who are like, you're
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  already vetting these people at a deep level.
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  Yes, we're vetting them. OK, we'll come.
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  Everyone was on the fence, curious to see, is this real?
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  How real is this? And then, of course, all the
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  advisors we had, we actually had the doors banging down.
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  We had 200 people. We had a waiting list.
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  We had to turn people away at the door, dragging their friends
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  and other business leaders into the place.
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  What happened for me was one of the most extraordinary things
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  for myself and my business partner.
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  What I saw was and the S, the the endorsements, the, the text,
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  the LinkedIn messages coming are just they're coming about 1010
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  per hour right now. Wow.
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  And what's happening is they're saying they've never experienced
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  spiritual awakening, profound connection, family, people
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  eating together, playing together, going through breath
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  work, listen to music together, doing deals.
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  The greater deal flows much more vetted every level of this.
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  I am so thrilled at a soul level.
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  We initiated the next stage beyond conscious capitalism.
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  Conscious. You're unconscious now you're
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  conscious, OK, you know that we're connected to the whole.
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  The next stage is enlightened, transcendent capitalism.
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  Now that we know we're interconnected to the whole, how
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  do we actualize that? How do we bring together
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  organizations, investors, companies that are the bloom
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  together for the greater good? And it's gone from concept to
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  dream to divine inspiration to an actuality that now the top
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  business leaders, at least here in Austin and others who came,
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  they're all behind it. They want to support it and they
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  know they don't want to go the other way.
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  They want to go forward with this love conquers fear
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  intention that we've brought in into this dimension.
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  I'm just thrilled and my soul is overjoyed.
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  All right. Also.
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  Yeah, Well. Congratulations.
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  Thank you. If if she's any indication, I
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  think you nail it with everybody there and I'm pretty sure you
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  did. I look forward to attending one
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  at some point in the future. You know, thinking about where
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  you're at at this point in your own souls development and your
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  own purpose in this lifetime. What is your purpose at this
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  point? It's really simple.
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  They came to me a few years ago, about 3 years ago, four years
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  ago during COVID. I've been running ACEO
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  Mastermind, a private mastermind where it's like a Dojo that I
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  was leading and guiding. Incredible business leaders all
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  here for some positive impact on the planet, but all committed to
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  spiritual life, family life, fitness, well-being and living
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  a, if you will, a multi dimensional life of fulfilment
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  that came to a natural close. I've got a calling at the
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  beginning of the year from Spirit.
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  It's time just for something new.
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  But when that happens, I don't even know what that means,
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  right? It just means I have to take the
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  risk of letting go. What do I know that I can do
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  with my eyes closed that's brought me security and
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  financial capacity and all of that and say, OK, what's next?
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  God? Well, God showed up and he said
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  your next dimension is enlightening, unifying, and
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  mobilizing leaders for the greater good, for the highest
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  impact. So that's it.
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  So for me, my stage of life, where I'm at now is all that
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  I've been blessed with and capacities, all that I've
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  learned. Now you feel it.
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  I feel it. Many are feeling this, that the
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  momentum calls us leaders to be able to enlighten, which means
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  to heal all the inner shadows, the ego illuminate it.
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  So we're not acting from those old propensities and pulls.
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  We're awakening our ego and bring it into a rightful
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  purpose, right use, aligned with our heart and higher
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  consciousness and so enlightening and then unifying.
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  It's time for us to come together, not just stay in the
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  space of inspiration. OK, like you said, Satyam, come
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  down. Let's get your message out in
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  the world. I'm coming.
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  I'm going to ask you to support, bring in the we all support each
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  other to unify with our A games. And then what's yours, mine and
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  all our brothers and sisters, what's their capacity to
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  mobilize now with more clarity, more efficiency, more potency,
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  something that's good for all the all win.
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  So my game is the all win right now or I want nothing else, All
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  right? And that's what I'm here for,
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  Yeah. Yeah, well, when I talk about
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  it, I talk about the age of abundance for all, and I do mean
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  all, I mean all of humanity, no one left behind.
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  And that's something that we can absolutely do.
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  You know it's. It's all it's all possible and
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  technology has always been a very important conduit for us to
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  climb that Maslow hierarchy. But it's always how we use it.
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  It's always how we use it. In this summit that we just LED,
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  how many people came in like this?
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  Naysayers doubting? Not sure.
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  The intention seems high. Is it a new agey fruity fluff
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  fluff thing? Is it going to be a real
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  business? And what was fulfilled was all
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  the naysayers leaned in. They all approached me one by
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  one. My heart is moved.
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  I've never been in anything like this before.
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  I've committed to funding 3 of your companies that you've
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  presented here. This was happening all day long
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  for me, and that shows me that the greatest force is not the
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  old paradigm sourced in fear and control.
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  The paradigm, which is the ancient paradigm of love, which
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  we stand so strong in, is the way to move forward in not only
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  our we personalize, but in the life of business itself, that
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  business becomes a force of love.
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  Yeah, that's our mission. Yeah, You know, I, I've done so
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  much reading this year on everything from books on
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  consciousness to quantum physics to, of course, spirituality.
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  I've read tons of spiritual text at this point, from the
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  Daodejing to the Bhagavad Gita to, you know, the Zohar to
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  basically all all of these. I've been looking for what is
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  the common root and if I if I could summarize it, It's
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  actually not that hard to summarize.
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  The whole point of this reality is this is the earth school for
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  our souls to manifest love within ourselves, love within
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  each other to serve this common purpose of elevating humanity.
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  And ultimately, that's how our soul continues to ascend and the
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  the game underway if you look at it that way.
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  Is that there's all these distractions in the world of
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  form that keep you from that, You know, fear is ever present.
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  There's a lot of people that have manifested more fear or
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  they've tried to within us through social media
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  manipulation with the algorithms, all the toxins being
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  put in our food, which actually aren't legal in your country of
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  Canada, Better for sure legal here.
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  I talked about that a lot in episode 3 with Jason Carp and
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  all of the constant dystopia being pushed to us by the media
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  because that is the exception to all the acts of beauty and love
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  that are happening. And it's much Better Business if
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  you're just trying to manifest dollars, which dollars are
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  energy. You know, money is energy to
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  just hijack the amygdala is amygdala is wired the way it is
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  because we've been around on Earth, the hominids have been
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  around for 4,000,000 years, but Homo sapiens for around 250,000
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  and 300,000 years. So even something like
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  electricity is a very modern convenience in the span of
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  250,000 to 300,000 years. So that means that for most of
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  the time we were dealing with incredible, incredible scarcity.
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  But, you know, in a way, there's this aspect of us in this world
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  of form where we've forgotten, like, what makes us most human,
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  you know, these bodies and these minds are extremely powerful.
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  And so it actually is not that hard.
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  You know, I'm working through this book right now, which is a
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  bit tedious to be honest with you, but it's been recommended
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  by many friends and it's called The Raw Contact.
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  Oh, we know this book. OK, since my 40s.
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  OK, Well, for me it was new and and it would make sense because
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  it was channelled, you know, from this raw kind of alien
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  consciousness from the six dimension that is a collective.
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  It was channelled during 1981 to 1984.
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  And it's a, it's a really far out there book and it's all
• 22:29
  about the law of 1. But the law of 1, you know,
• 22:33
  which is essentially that the whole point of reality is to
• 22:39
  manifest love, to be of service to others, especially selfless
• 22:44
  service to others is the whole game.
• 22:47
  And that's the whole vibratory force in the entire universe, no
• 22:51
  matter what the life is, if any alien intelligence.
• 22:55
  And, and so, you know, you can work through the book and it's
• 22:59
  tediousness, but the, and, and there are some pretty far out
• 23:03
  things there in terms of like the, with this channeling and
• 23:07
  how many planets have life. I think it's something like
• 23:10
  56,000,000 is what is what this, this book says from, from the
• 23:14
  channeling. But you know, the, the base
• 23:18
  message is actually very simple. How do you, how do you think
• 23:21
  about that? And, and, and how do you think
• 23:23
  about this reality? Well, all that you just shared,
• 23:29
  we could just stop all the podcasts now because you, you
• 23:33
  expressed the essence of, for me, the meaning of life, the
• 23:38
  meaning and the transmission of life.
• 23:40
  You asked me what's my mission a little earlier.
• 23:42
  And, and it's actually not my mission alone.
• 23:44
  It's my transmission. Missions stay on a wall.
• 23:48
  A transmission is lived and flowing and and exuberant and
• 23:53
  infusing the space and all those around us from that living
• 23:57
  transmission. So yes, I'm in total alignment
• 24:00
  with you. I've had profound spiritual
• 24:03
  experiences, realizations in awakening, but the nature of
• 24:06
  existence, this itself is that this is congealed to love and
• 24:13
  the illusion that we've generated through the popular
• 24:16
  emotion, through the amygdala, through forces that generate
• 24:21
  power, control from the fact that because we have an
• 24:26
  amygdala, we have an animal body.
• 24:29
  The fear capacity, the fear centers are easy to evoke
• 24:32
  because they're the default. Maybe another 1020 thousand
• 24:36
  years, the default will be more towards the heart and higher
• 24:39
  dimensions of all justness. The upper chakras right now, the
• 24:43
  lower chakras power, sex and money are the ones that get the
• 24:47
  most evolutionary attention and are the ones that are most
• 24:50
  evoked in media entertainment. You name it sex, power and
• 24:53
  money. That's the really could be the
• 24:55
  name of every show you have on my planet in some subtitle,
• 24:58
  right? So why is this Because when we
• 25:03
  are hijacked an emotional level into the popular emotion, it
• 25:08
  pulls us away from source heart knowingness, source love,
• 25:13
  wisdom, beingness. My experience is, is that each
• 25:18
  of us, all of us, it doesn't matter, the most diabolical has
• 25:22
  already within them a perfect capacitor atonement antenna to
• 25:28
  the divine force of love. Now, whether we honor it,
• 25:32
  whether we crush it, package it away, put it away, maybe it's
• 25:35
  been traumatized and there's boxes or wounds over it.
• 25:38
  So we don't trust love and we're trust fear because fear showed
• 25:43
  us A at least I'm in fear, but I'm safe, right?
• 25:46
  So we're moving now through a experience where we we're not
• 25:51
  wanting to live in fear, even if it's brought us value, even if
• 25:55
  it's brought us safety at this point, because now it's no
• 25:58
  longer safe. Fear, fear itself is the limiter
• 26:02
  to Love's fulfillment. And what's love pouring through
• 26:06
  us now? And so this purpose of life for
• 26:09
  me is the sharing of infinite love, the seeing of who we are,
• 26:14
  the knowing I am me. I am of this eternal divine
• 26:18
  nature. You are the same.
• 26:20
  And that we are brothers and sisters in that oneness.
• 26:23
  You have your individuality, I have mine.
• 26:26
  But at a whatness level, what we are is the same, right?
• 26:30
  Transcendent of systems, right? And this illumination is, is the
• 26:35
  call of our times. Because then on a human level,
• 26:38
  how does that what does that mean?
• 26:39
  It means we collaborate better if we eat together, we share
• 26:43
  break bread together, we have our families and children come
• 26:47
  together of all religions, all philosophies, all paths, all
• 26:51
  nationalities, all ethnic varieties to celebrate the Omni
• 26:56
  forms of love, the infinite forms of love that we are.
• 27:00
  So ultimately for me, in essence, we are in a crowding of
• 27:06
  the love and freedom. We already are on the journey to
• 27:10
  unveil the love and freedom we already are, to come back to the
• 27:15
  love and freedom we already have.
• 27:17
  Yeah, yeah. It's so well said.
• 27:19
  And, you know, I had this, this pretty amazing experience in San
• 27:23
  Francisco where I was with an Israeli company or Israeli
• 27:27
  couple. And as you know, you know, the
• 27:30
  hostages were freed recently. And so it's processing that with
• 27:35
  them. You know, this, this, this
• 27:37
  terror of October 7th and Hamas. And like all the fear that that
• 27:41
  manifested. I mean, I have to be honest.
• 27:43
  And within me, I had nightmares for two months after that.
• 27:47
  It was, it was really, really disturbing.
• 27:49
  And I didn't watch any of the videos that Hamas, GoPro and
• 27:52
  everything else, but I was trying to make the point to them
• 27:58
  that they need to break out of the media paradigm that they're
• 28:03
  in because they they weren't seeking out things like the
• 28:06
  Progress Network and fix the News and these channels that you
• 28:11
  can tune into that the algorithms frankly bury.
• 28:15
  But they're, the stories are out there every day in a world of
• 28:19
  8.2 billion humans, they're amazing acts of love and beauty.
• 28:23
  And that actually is the norm. That actually is the norm of our
• 28:26
  reality. But there's also something bad
• 28:30
  happening. It's 8.2 billion humans and it's
• 28:33
  a 24/7 cycle. And the algorithms are
• 28:36
  constantly trying to get you to click and people click on
• 28:40
  something that makes them afraid more than something that opens
• 28:44
  up their heart. And and that's, that's a tall
• 28:49
  order, right As we have to deprogram and deprogramming is
• 28:53
  is really hard depending on the circumstance.
• 28:56
  I mean, with Katie, you know, for that episode, we're talking
• 29:01
  about the Scorpion Creek Ranch and there's going to have to be
• 29:04
  a lot of deprogramming for these children who grew up with a
• 29:07
  tremendous amount of trauma. So how do we do that?
• 29:12
  What are some of the the tips you have for humanity in the
• 29:17
  deprogramming? That's that's essential for us
• 29:19
  to allow love to come here. One of my first spiritual
• 29:23
  teachers, he was a mentor to Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer, who
• 29:27
  was a crazy wisdom teacher back in the day.
• 29:29
  I was in my early 20s. I love his book on the Dao.
• 29:32
  Yes he he his interpretation of the Dao and then how to live the
• 29:35
  Dao. The Dao de chink is amazing.
• 29:38
  Which the Dao is just another word in my vernacular for God.
• 29:43
  Yes. You know, to walk the way.
• 29:46
  So he shared with me, I grew up as a traditional Indian boy.
• 29:49
  My parents said read the news, read the paper and all this.
• 29:52
  And he gave me assignment. He says Satyen, well, yes,
• 29:55
  Stewart, he goes, don't read the newspaper for three years, don't
• 29:59
  watch TV for three years. And now here I am like 3 years.
• 30:03
  What are you talking about? I said big.
• 30:05
  I'm not three months, OK, I can do that.
• 30:06
  Three years. And he says, don't look at any
• 30:10
  of the gas prices. If you need to fill up your car,
• 30:13
  don't cut out any coupons. This nothing.
• 30:16
  I want you to remove yourself from the popular emotion.
• 30:21
  And I said, well, what if I'm uninformed, which is my fear?
• 30:24
  You know, I come from an educated family.
• 30:26
  If we don't know what's going on in the world, we're not going to
• 30:28
  be worldly enough to make the best decisions and clarity and
• 30:31
  know what's going on. He says everything you need to
• 30:33
  know will come to you. Take this sacred time.
• 30:36
  You can spend the rest of your life looking at whatever you
• 30:39
  want learning. But the sacred sanctuary you
• 30:42
  create for yourself, away from the popular emotion, is going to
• 30:46
  purify your attachments. Purify the hooks they've already
• 30:51
  got into you that you don't even know.
• 30:53
  Purify the parts in you which has succumbed to these, if you
• 30:57
  will tendril like latches onto your psyche which you get pissed
• 31:02
  off about that upset about that angry and vehement about that He
• 31:06
  goes you need to start D letting good letting go step by step
• 31:10
  start walking away and I did. It was very challenging for the
• 31:14
  first few weeks, then months, and then after about 2-3 months,
• 31:18
  this whole air started happening, this lightness, this
• 31:22
  like I didn't, I felt like I'm no longer being pulled by
• 31:26
  something. My own sovereignty start
• 31:29
  arising. I started meditating naturally
• 31:32
  without all these interference patterns of noise that were just
• 31:35
  within my energetic system. And I came to the deeper truth.
• 31:40
  I got to listen to my soul's voice with clarity and that can
• 31:45
  never do you wrong. You can't go wrong, right?
• 31:48
  And it's the voice of love. It's the voice of wisdom.
• 31:50
  It is, it's the voice of the God force.
• 31:52
  And then what I told him, they guess he gave me a high five.
• 31:55
  He gave me a hug. And he says, now you got it.
• 31:58
  That's your navigation, not the news out there, but the news
• 32:03
  coming in from here, the instructions.
• 32:05
  And he says, now all you have to do is open follow instruction,
• 32:10
  open follow instruction. The rest will unfold.
• 32:14
  I've been doing that since a young man and that's all I've
• 32:16
  been doing and my life has been a magical journey every single
• 32:19
  day. And here's one right now already
• 32:22
  being with you. And so yes, it's in summary,
• 32:26
  remove yourself, no matter how hard it is from the popular
• 32:30
  motion, from the forces that get you to be pulled in an
• 32:33
  antagonistic duality. Our side, this side, look how
• 32:37
  horrible they are. They are feeling the same.
• 32:39
  Look how horrible they are. And that antagonism captures the
• 32:43
  dualistic consciousness and keeps it trapped and locked away
• 32:47
  from soul wisdom. But when we integrate those,
• 32:51
  relinquish that pull, then the voice of God, the voice of life,
• 32:56
  the voice of life gets on boarded again.
• 33:00
  And now you really live, all right.
• 33:02
  And now we're part of the whole, and now we're part of the whole
• 33:06
  symbiotic relationship. And we find our place, we find
• 33:10
  fulfillment, and we find the service we're meant to give.
• 33:12
  Yeah, that is that is beautifully said.
• 33:15
  And you know, when you were talking, it reminded me of two
• 33:19
  things I want to just unpack really quickly.
• 33:22
  So 1 is Tim Ferriss is the 4 hour work week.
• 33:26
  You may remember in that book that Tim actually lives here in
• 33:30
  Austin. And you remember, may remember
• 33:32
  that he said in the four hour work week that you don't need to
• 33:37
  worry about the news because if it really matters, someone's
• 33:40
  going to tell you if it really, really matters, like you're
• 33:42
  going to know. And then number 2 is he tells
• 33:47
  the story about this fisherman. So you know, the fisherman's
• 33:53
  story in the book, it's a, it's a great, it's a great story.
• 33:55
  So it's this, it's this Harvard NBA guy and he's like super
• 34:01
  ambitious and he's like super stressed out.
• 34:05
  You know, he's the CEO of this, of this pretty big company.
• 34:08
  He's just like, I've got to get away.
• 34:09
  I'm going, I'm going to go fishing.
• 34:12
  So he goes to Mexico and he goes fishing and he sees at one point
• 34:18
  this guy on the dock, you know, fishing.
• 34:20
  And he walks up to him and he says, you know, what are you
• 34:25
  catching? And he describes this beautiful
• 34:27
  fish. He's like, it's the best eating
• 34:29
  in all of Mexico. And he said, oh, that's cool.
• 34:32
  How many of you catch a day? He's like, you know, just, I'd
• 34:36
  really just fish like one or two days a week, just enough to feed
• 34:39
  my family. And he said, well, how many of
• 34:42
  these fish are there? He says it's just abundant.
• 34:44
  I mean, they're everywhere. I could just catch these all day
• 34:47
  long, every day. He said, well, you're in luck.
• 34:51
  I've got a Harvard NBA and I'm very ambitious and I'm here to
• 34:57
  go into business with you. Like, I would love to change my
• 35:00
  life. You know, I'm super stressed
• 35:02
  out. And like, we'll go into a
• 35:04
  fishing business together. And the Mexican fisherman says,
• 35:08
  well, what then? And he said, well, you know,
• 35:11
  we'll, we'll, we'll start to catch a lot of fish and, you
• 35:14
  know, we'll sell them all over, you know, the state that I come
• 35:18
  from. And he's like, well, what then?
• 35:20
  He's like, well, you know, we'll scale up operations and we'll
• 35:23
  sell them all over the nation that I come from.
• 35:26
  He's like, well, what then? Well, then we'll create a
• 35:28
  worldwide business, you know, and he's like, what?
• 35:32
  Then he's like, well, then we'll take the company public and
• 35:35
  we'll both become really rich. And he's like, and then we could
• 35:39
  spend all day long just doing nothing but fishing on a dock.
• 35:46
  And The thing is that was my dad.
• 35:49
  Like, I've never talked about my dad to you, but that was my dad.
• 35:54
  When I was 10 years old, my dad had invented the first halogen
• 35:58
  fishing light, and he sold these all over the world.
• 36:02
  And he was a celebrity in those circles.
• 36:04
  And he spent his entire life. He passed away at 63.
• 36:07
  But the one thing we could say at his funeral is that literally
• 36:11
  his entire life was on vacation. Because every week he would go
• 36:15
  for around three days a week to the coast in the Gulf of Mexico.
• 36:20
  And he would go fishing and he would come back and he would
• 36:24
  catch so many red snapper. I went with him quite a bit
• 36:29
  before, before I just got completely infatuated with
• 36:33
  computers. I think he was really
• 36:34
  disappointed with that. But I would come back with him
• 36:38
  and we would have like 7080 red snapper, which are amazing
• 36:42
  eating. And my dad would very selflessly
• 36:46
  sit out there on the front lawn and he would clean all these
• 36:49
  fish and he would give 90% of it away to neighbors.
• 36:53
  And the neighbors loved him, right?
• 36:55
  Because he was just constantly giving all this abundance to
• 36:58
  everybody. And when I was 10, Walmart
• 37:01
  approached him and they said we want to sell all of your fishing
• 37:05
  lights and all of your products, yet other fishing products and
• 37:08
  all the Walmarts. And he turned them down.
• 37:11
  And I was so upset. And I have to tell you, I just
• 37:15
  didn't have this level of wisdom, but I was so upset.
• 37:18
  I was like, Dad, what are you doing?
• 37:20
  Like, you're such a brilliant inventor.
• 37:22
  I always looked up to him as just so incredibly brilliant,
• 37:25
  like he could go deep on almost anything in the physical world.
• 37:30
  He was so, so smart and everything I was creating was in
• 37:33
  the virtual world. So I was kind of a
• 37:35
  disappointment until he realized that the world was going
• 37:38
  directious. He was like, son, I can't touch
• 37:41
  or feel anything you're creating.
• 37:42
  I'm like, dad, trust me, I'm creating a lot.
• 37:44
  But but anyways, he he turned them down and and I was so upset
• 37:49
  and he sat down with me literally like this.
• 37:52
  This is like us reliving it right here.
• 37:54
  We're about this close together. And he looked at me in the eyes
• 37:57
  and he said, son, you may realize the value of keeping
• 38:01
  life simple one day, or you may not.
• 38:03
  It's your choice. And.
• 38:07
  God bless you Father. He just dropped the most
• 38:10
  beautiful, profound warrior. Wisdom.
• 38:13
  He Oh my gosh, you would have. You would have gotten along with
• 38:17
  him. What's his name?
• 38:18
  His name was Brian Douglas Erda. Yeah.
• 38:21
  Yeah, he is. Yeah.
• 38:22
  I, I actually, you know, through a lot of reading through
• 38:26
  psychedelic journeys, through other means, I've really
• 38:29
  reconnected to his soul quite a bit.
• 38:31
  And he showed up quite a bit for the mission that I'm on right
• 38:35
  now. That's, you know, my highest
• 38:36
  order mission in my lifetime. And I feel my inventive
• 38:41
  potential going up pretty exponentially because he's, he's
• 38:44
  really, he's really here to help.
• 38:47
  But you know, I, it was funny because when I was 2425, you
• 38:54
  know, you start, you started to see me become successful as an
• 38:57
  entrepreneur in tech, you know, right place, right time.
• 39:01
  And he was like, son, you never really did get that wisdom, did
• 39:04
  you? And I'd say, well, dad, you know
• 39:06
  what my problem is? And we would almost both say in
• 39:09
  unison, you're too damn ambitious.
• 39:13
  What a wise man. He was a wise, wise man.
• 39:16
  You know, I want to take the opportunity also to give an ODE
• 39:20
  and in honorary to my father and mother, my father, Rasiq Raja,
• 39:24
  my mother, serial entrepreneurs that show my father and we ran
• 39:29
  all types of businesses. And I remember the restaurant
• 39:32
  business at one time Discotheque 300 Seeds wild.
• 39:35
  I'm a teenager managing A discotheque, right?
• 39:40
  Yeah, it was just wild days. I knew as a teenager you were
• 39:44
  there primarily to meet the women.
• 39:45
  At that point. I know what it was I was.
• 39:47
  Actually too young for that. OK, well I was a.
• 39:50
  Little, young I remember my teenage years.
• 39:52
  But but I enjoyed the energy of the disco of the music and fun,
• 39:56
  but every night. I mean, craziness would break
• 40:00
  out, fights, bar fights, all types of interest, you know,
• 40:03
  things that. Traditional Indian parents, they
• 40:05
  don't how do you manage this this right like what and he's
• 40:10
  and at the end of the night he would fall asleep deeply.
• 40:12
  We'd come home at times eat all together as a family no matter
• 40:16
  what mom would help rift any tension and we'd all eat with
• 40:22
  love. We'd share good stuff together
• 40:24
  and I go dad, how do you sleep every night?
• 40:27
  I know other business guys are stressed, this and this.
• 40:31
  He goes, son, nothing is more valuable than your family fed
• 40:35
  well, that in your heart you know you did well.
• 40:40
  You can lay your head on the pillow and you can thank God for
• 40:43
  the day and there's nothing wrong, all regret, nothing
• 40:47
  leftover within you. And nothing is worth worrying
• 40:50
  about business or nothing. The only thing worth worrying
• 40:52
  about is our family. Someone's not well.
• 40:55
  Nothing is worth it. So you, son, no matter how far
• 40:58
  you get a business, you rest every night.
• 41:01
  Nothing is important. Everything shuts down.
• 41:04
  I put the attention on your family, your love, and go to bed
• 41:07
  with God's peace. And to that day, to this day, he
• 41:11
  lives like that. He transmits it to me.
• 41:14
  And he's the pillar for me of what it means to put business in
• 41:17
  the right place in the heart. Yeah.
• 41:19
  And putting family. First, Yeah, that's beautiful.
• 41:22
  That's really beautiful. Wow.
• 41:24
  Lucky. I'm glad that we're honoring our
• 41:26
  father's sis. I spend a lot of time on this
• 41:28
  podcast talking about my mother and all the love that she put in
• 41:32
  my heart. But it's also important to honor
• 41:36
  my father. And it's important for you to
• 41:39
  honor yours. And you need both sides of the
• 41:42
  equation. If you can have both sides.
• 41:44
  I mean, again, these children. I, my heart was breaking
• 41:48
  yesterday in the conversation with Katie.
• 41:51
  And wow, what a powerful soul she is to take on this mission
• 41:55
  in her life. You know, it's essential that
• 42:01
  warrior sages like us are holding a higher intention, that
• 42:07
  we value the past we honour, we give integrity and honouring to
• 42:12
  our past, our ancestors. We're not here alone.
• 42:16
  The whole culmination of our ancestors wisdom, their
• 42:18
  survival, what they've gone through for us to be here, to be
• 42:22
  afforded the quality of life and the opportunity to expand and to
• 42:27
  make choices in any way we want nowadays, it's profound.
• 42:31
  It's more than perhaps we should ever realize.
• 42:33
  And yes, honoring the mothers, but yes, honoring the fathers is
• 42:37
  essential because we're fathers and mothers, God bless them,
• 42:41
  they get lots of love because mothers love is mother's love.
• 42:43
  The mothers are the ultimate creators.
• 42:46
  My father's love is the banks of the river, yes, that's formed
• 42:50
  us, that give us the silent power, the transfusion of silent
• 42:55
  power that makes us more evolved to bed.
• 42:58
  Bless our fathers, even if they didn't do well in life, even if
• 43:02
  they weren't the best imprint, we learn from them.
• 43:05
  What is my centre? What can I absorb from that to
• 43:08
  be the best version of my current masculine, heart centred
• 43:13
  gifting to the world? You know, beautiful.
• 43:17
  Let's shift for a second and talk about tools.
• 43:20
  I'm curious what your view is on psychedelics at this point.
• 43:25
  Like you have a lot of experience using them as a tool.
• 43:30
  But there's many tools, right? There's there's many awakenings
• 43:34
  and many catalyst. I got a call recently from a
• 43:39
  woman who said I found God. Like I finally understand,
• 43:42
  Brett, what you've been talking about.
• 43:44
  And for her, it literally happened spontaneously in a
• 43:48
  shower. She was just in a horrible,
• 43:50
  horrible situation in there crying, just absolutely
• 43:55
  depressed. And she said I felt this glow.
• 43:59
  I felt the love of God, the unconditional love of God.
• 44:03
  And I knew everything was going to be OK.
• 44:05
  And she said it's transformative.
• 44:08
  Like I've never had that experience before.
• 44:11
  And for her, it wasn't even a catalyst like a psychedelic.
• 44:15
  When I take psychedelics, I take them for very, very sacred
• 44:20
  reasons and I take them with great, great intentionality.
• 44:25
  I don't look at them as any type of party drug.
• 44:28
  I actually think it's, I don't want to take anything away from
• 44:33
  people that choose to do that. I think maybe there's a time and
• 44:37
  place for some people to do that, but I look at it as very
• 44:40
  sacred. I don't want to do it for that.
• 44:43
  I literally for the party was that recently where in DNA was
• 44:49
  offered to me and I ran out, ran from it.
• 44:54
  I was just this is not what for me.
• 44:56
  This is not what I want to do because it's a really, really
• 45:01
  important catalyst to go inside and get a transmission from my
• 45:05
  soul. And the transmissions I've
• 45:08
  received from my soul from God are truly, truly profound and so
• 45:13
  much insight into into ultimately how to serve,
• 45:17
  ultimately how to help humanity. I'm curious how, how do you, how
• 45:21
  do you view it? You know where where you live,
• 45:24
  you live in a different region where it is more lightened in
• 45:28
  this way. And these are legal.
• 45:31
  So how do you look at this? So when I was very young, I dove
• 45:36
  into the spiritual path of shall in Kung Fu order and full on
• 45:40
  training and that and we were very antithesis to drugs,
• 45:44
  alcohol, any type of what we would call outside of things of
• 45:50
  the integrity and a temple atmosphere which had its
• 45:53
  profound value in my life. We did deep Coen meditations.
• 45:58
  I dove deep into Zen meditation and enlightenment intenses,
• 46:03
  which is where we dive deep into the Inquirer of who am I and we
• 46:08
  eventually allow all the associations of who we think we
• 46:11
  are to dissolve and they come to the core and we experience a
• 46:15
  direct union with our God self, our divine nature.
• 46:19
  So when I was young, in my early 20s, one of my mentors
• 46:22
  introduced me into these meditative paths and this is
• 46:25
  where I had profound realizations and awakenings to
• 46:28
  the God force. Then years, few years later,
• 46:33
  when am I met this Rascal crazy wisdom teacher and he took me to
• 46:37
  the forest of Ireland and he offered me a tea with many
• 46:43
  mushrooms in it. I thought, am I in a Jim Jones
• 46:46
  cult? I was totally scared.
• 46:48
  I was terrified. I'm like, I never gave my trust
• 46:51
  to this man for I read all his books and now he's giving me
• 46:54
  drugs. And I was like, and I grew up
• 46:57
  traditional Hindu, very straight family, very conservative
• 47:01
  family. And I looked in his eyes and I
• 47:06
  saw purity in him in a wink and he and he winked at when he
• 47:10
  goes. You're a little uptight, aren't
• 47:12
  you? You know, young man, you know
• 47:14
  you and your Kung Fu and your Hinduism.
• 47:16
  You all know everything. And he was just poking at me and
• 47:20
  in his poke was a love. And some I felt I was taken care
• 47:23
  of. And I says, OK, I'll do it.
• 47:28
  And I drunk, I took the cup of tea.
• 47:31
  Me and other disciples of this master, we went out in the Irish
• 47:34
  forest, the sacred forest, and I had most profound revelatory
• 47:39
  experience that lasted, I don't know, 12-16 hours.
• 47:44
  Wow, OK, now it's a high dose. Of that and we were continuing
• 47:48
  to sip it and drink throughout the forest all for hours.
• 47:51
  How many showed me here's the force to remember.
• 47:53
  Now that group there that's starting to meet, they're
• 47:56
  working on the root chakra. This group, they're working on
• 47:58
  the heart chakra, they're working on their third eye
• 48:00
  chakra higher. And I'm seeing all these
• 48:03
  energetic dimensions and multiple dimensions and full.
• 48:07
  And that's where I realized the meditative traditions are there
• 48:11
  to help us awaken to our true nature.
• 48:13
  The psychedelics take that and allow us to enter the multi
• 48:18
  dimensional existences that are there that we can't perceive
• 48:22
  through our limited human frames.
• 48:25
  So from there I was initiated in my early 20s, twenty two or
• 48:28
  three into the path of shamanism of which now I have led, I don't
• 48:33
  know, hundreds and hundreds of ceremonies internationally,
• 48:36
  taken many groups to Peru, led many ceremonies of ayahuasca,
• 48:39
  medicine, mushrooms, Wachum, to many powerful groups.
• 48:45
  Now why I'm very attuned and very believing of this at this
• 48:50
  time. We're the Renaissance, the
• 48:53
  psychedelic medicines in the context as you shared sacred
• 48:57
  environment, not recreationally. I'm also stand with you in a
• 49:02
  sacred environment with high intention, deep prayer, opening
• 49:06
  to truly what's wanting to come through, coming in with an
• 49:10
  intention for something higher, not just for material gain or to
• 49:13
  win the next ticket or win the next gal, but something.
• 49:18
  God, give me wisdom so I can be a better man.
• 49:20
  That's my prayer, right? Help me be a better man for
• 49:23
  myself, my family, for the world.
• 49:26
  And when I go in with that earnestness of intention, I'm so
• 49:30
  gifted by these plant medicines in the medicine realm.
• 49:34
  So that's been a little snapshot of my experiences.
• 49:37
  We've initiated some of the greatest leaders who are now,
• 49:41
  you know, standing for psychedelic medicines.
• 49:43
  Physicians, therapists, Dr. Gabourne, I tell you name it,
• 49:46
  have come through our experiences and have now
• 49:50
  becoming, if you will, a a torch for wisdom through those means.
• 49:55
  There's more to mature. Our society will mature more
• 49:58
  with this. But really valuable for me that
• 50:00
  medicines should be used in a context of a sangha with strong,
• 50:05
  clear, conscious, vetted leaders who don't have reputations of
• 50:10
  doing funny stuff and have a purity of heart.
• 50:14
  When we bring all that together, these can be some of the most
• 50:17
  powerful accelerants of our evolution and powerful ways to
• 50:21
  heal the parts that psychotherapy and traditional
• 50:25
  methods might take weeks, months, years to even come close
• 50:28
  to. We can transform in minutes.
• 50:31
  So that's where we are today, and we're in a beautiful time
• 50:36
  where the depth of them is coming.
• 50:38
  And now the mature, the mature use of them in the right context
• 50:42
  will be the next stage. Now we're entering and
• 50:44
  cultivating now. Why do you why do you think it's
• 50:46
  happening now? Like when do you think this
• 50:48
  consciousness awakening? We are calling it forth.
• 50:52
  Yes, Mother Gaya is calling it forth.
• 50:55
  Mother Gaya is saying it's time for us to come back to the roots
• 50:59
  of her to gain the symbiotic wisdom that we've lost.
• 51:04
  All the animal kingdoms, plant kingdoms, they have an inherent
• 51:08
  symbiotic awareness. We've lost it.
• 51:13
  You know, when you take a cancer cell, the programming is
• 51:16
  mutated. It's part of our body.
• 51:19
  Some people say kill cancer and all these harsh things.
• 51:22
  That's like saying kill your arm because it's sick.
• 51:24
  I want to kill your arm. You want to re, you want to
• 51:27
  support it coming back to its homeostatic natural homeostasis,
• 51:31
  it's natural relationship of the whole.
• 51:34
  In the same way, our psyche has turned from symbiotic
• 51:39
  consciousness into a self voracious cancerous
• 51:43
  consciousness which is eating voraciously for itself, not
• 51:47
  realizing we're killing ourselves.
• 51:49
  So these medicines are calling, we're calling them the sacred is
• 51:52
  calling. The Mother Guy is offering them
• 51:55
  to us in a whole new way so that we can accelerate our evolution
• 51:59
  through the shadow period we're in right now.
• 52:01
  So that we come out in the realm where love is the path, love is
• 52:05
  the way, and love is the solidity.
• 52:08
  And Mother Earth is the ground that we love and we share, and
• 52:11
  we reap from, and we serve. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:14
  You know, it's interesting because it, it doesn't seem to
• 52:19
  be the case that it's necessarily the specific
• 52:25
  psychedelic that gets people to realize the unification of all
• 52:30
  things that are deeply rooted in love.
• 52:34
  And I find that fascinating that, that, that, you know,
• 52:40
  Katie was talking about on the last episode that she uses D&T
• 52:46
  for her insight or, or she did for the example she gave.
• 52:52
  And she asked me, you know, what the combination of what I've had
• 52:57
  is. And I said, no, I've, I've never
• 52:59
  had DMT. But the, the story she told on
• 53:03
  that episode is one that was deeply rooted in love.
• 53:07
  And I think that that's fascinating.
• 53:10
  I mean, when you see that, you can't Unsee it.
• 53:14
  Like once you know that the veil is off and the ego goes offline,
• 53:18
  which is how psychedelics work is it literally takes the ego
• 53:22
  offline and it'll let you see the actual reality and let
• 53:27
  consciousness flood in. Once you've seen that, you can
• 53:30
  Unsee it. You know, there's an old saying
• 53:34
  in India and if you go into a room at night and you see a
• 53:39
  coiled up snake and you go, Oh my goodness, just scared.
• 53:42
  You run out, but someone comes in, turns on the light.
• 53:45
  Oh, it was just a rope that was on the ground.
• 53:50
  The ego without perception the way it is, because it's dark, we
• 53:54
  can't see. It's not something scary, it's
• 53:56
  just something of value. It's a rope.
• 53:59
  It's good, it's neutral. But because the filters are
• 54:04
  there, all the imprints, all as you said, the ego is on boarded.
• 54:08
  It's the primary filter for most beings.
• 54:11
  It's a primary way to relate with reality.
• 54:13
  Psychedelics, relax. That is the primary way to
• 54:17
  relate to existence. And now our heart, soul being
• 54:21
  becomes the primary relating with existence.
• 54:25
  And when we see it from that place, we recognize the nature.
• 54:28
  And all the great sages have been saying this.
• 54:31
  It's not that we get to love. We recognize the love that was
• 54:35
  behind our own veils. We see and feel the love and the
• 54:40
  freedom. That's always already the case.
• 54:45
  Then our integration becomes, now that we've seen the light,
• 54:49
  we've seen the truth behind the illusion of our own ego, our own
• 54:53
  projection of closure, of making that rope into a snake.
• 54:57
  Now you don't have to be in fear anymore, all right?
• 55:00
  Now when that fear is released, dissolved, transmuted, now that
• 55:05
  energy that was going into the contraction and all that
• 55:09
  energetic use to maintain the fear, then you come into a
• 55:14
  naturalness. You breathe, your soul relaxes,
• 55:18
  your subtle energy in your body relaxes, life force starts to
• 55:21
  come into you, new inspiration, new clarity, and finally your
• 55:26
  home. And when you're a home, you make
• 55:29
  the best person you could be. All right.
• 55:31
  To me, that's the ultimate. You said it doesn't matter what
• 55:33
  the medicine is. You might have some favourites,
• 55:37
  you might have some you have more affinity or connection
• 55:39
  with, but ultimately they're all the same.
• 55:42
  They're from Gaia, right? Whether we call it a rose or a
• 55:47
  sunflower or a daffodil. I don't know if Gaia has names
• 55:51
  for these things. Only the human mind, all right,
• 55:54
  because they're all interconnected.
• 55:56
  And so all these plant medicines, these sacred
• 55:59
  medicines are that they're in the manifestation of the souls
• 56:03
  calling of the earth plane. It's Gaia's infusion, a way to
• 56:07
  give us a nectar to return back home to her, and her is US.
• 56:12
  Right, right, because we're all from that.
• 56:16
  Why, why do you think they've been so demonized and so taboo
• 56:21
  for you know, I've, I've recommended to people that watch
• 56:27
  the podcast to watch how to change your mind, Michael
• 56:32
  Pollan's documentary or read the book, but they can get that on
• 56:35
  Netflix. But but what's, what's your
• 56:38
  opinion? Because you have a different
• 56:39
  perspective, right? You're not an American, right?
• 56:42
  You come, come from Canada. What, what's your perspective on
• 56:45
  why? Why have governments demonized
• 56:50
  something so sacred? I mean, it is so sacred.
• 56:54
  Well. And it's been used for thousands
• 56:57
  and thousands of years. There is a good side to it, and
• 57:00
  the good side it is to protect the public from wanton use, but
• 57:04
  to protect the public from nefarious creation of drugs that
• 57:07
  might be, you know, infused with other things.
• 57:10
  So there is a value of right. And I'm grateful for those
• 57:13
  standards and those standards in place and the desire to keep
• 57:18
  that. And of course, government is far
• 57:20
  more conservative. So they're not going to be open
• 57:23
  to these. And so the change will be very
• 57:25
  slow in those realms. So I think there's validity to
• 57:28
  that. Another reason is they allow us
• 57:32
  to experience our own sovereignty, not our
• 57:36
  codependence on the government, the codependence on the matrix,
• 57:39
  the codependence on the system. They start waking us up.
• 57:43
  They start, wow, I've been in a matrix, and the government in
• 57:51
  its current form also has a matrix structure and is part of
• 57:54
  that interweaving. And so why would a system like
• 57:58
  that want us to wake up out of the Matrix to create our own
• 58:02
  sovereign life and no longer be a battery, no longer be a cog in
• 58:06
  the wheel of the great 1984 Orwellian treadmill and hamster
• 58:12
  wheel, right? That's the danger to the system.
• 58:16
  And that is one of the reasons we are being repressed from the
• 58:22
  full sacred wisdom, use and proliferation of these
• 58:27
  beautiful, beautiful gifts for us in humanity.
• 58:31
  So value good, but at the deeper level, it's to keep us from
• 58:37
  waking up, right? And now that there's more
• 58:39
  openness, there are progressives, there are people
• 58:42
  in the governmental realms that I've met at Renaissance who they
• 58:45
  met, who are doing great work, who behind the scenes going,
• 58:48
  this is a spiritual revolution, revelation and revolution.
• 58:52
  We can't talk about that. We got to talk about the mental
• 58:54
  health and this and this. But internally they know it and
• 58:57
  they feel it and they're expressing it.
• 58:59
  So that's what it is. It's part of the great support
• 59:03
  and aid of our time to wake up from the matrix of illusion of
• 59:07
  fear and come back home to love and come back home to being in
• 59:12
  service to love and not. The structures aren't
• 59:16
  necessarily designed to be fueled by love.
• 59:19
  Yeah, that's why. Yeah.
• 59:21
  You know, after the Renaissance weekend, it was it was not that
• 59:24
  long ago in this House that a very conservative governor,
• 59:29
  Governor Rick Perry of Texas, was here for a fundraiser for
• 59:35
  the Americans for Ibogaine Initiative that happened here.
• 59:39
  Really. Oh, yeah.
• 59:41
  Wow. And I've talked about it on
• 59:43
  that's. Amazing.
• 59:44
  Yes, it it's, I've talked about on prior episodes of the
• 59:47
  podcast, but those are episodes that haven't aired yet, so you
• 59:50
  haven't seen them. But it was amazing.
• 59:53
  We raised a lot of money that night for this initiative.
• 59:57
  And the the most amazing thing about that is that as an avatar
• 1:00:02
  for Change, he is known for being very conservative.
• 1:00:07
  And his partner for that is this guy Brian Hubbard, who I don't
• 1:00:11
  know if you've seen Brian Hubbard speak, but that man is a
• 1:00:13
  force of nature. He will not be stopped.
• 1:00:17
  He was first shunned. He got almost to the finish line
• 1:00:21
  of getting ibogaine research funded in Kentucky, where he's
• 1:00:26
  from, and was shunned at the last minute, like shelled at the
• 1:00:30
  last minute. And he found a home for it in
• 1:00:33
  Texas. And that 50 million of funding
• 1:00:37
  for ibogaine research to primarily save people really
• 1:00:41
  struggling with addiction. Also it addicts, Alcoholics or
• 1:00:46
  suicidal vets. You know, we've lost in America
• 1:00:50
  four times as many vets to suicide then we have to combat
• 1:00:56
  since 9/11 4 times as many. And I just watched this
• 1:01:02
  documentary, which hasn't aired yet on I have a game and it just
• 1:01:06
  really touched my heart and I've never done I have a game and the
• 1:01:09
  reason why is because I haven't had that kind of suffering.
• 1:01:13
  Yes, I I came from very loving environment with two loving
• 1:01:17
  parents and I haven't been in combat.
• 1:01:20
  I haven't, you know, experienced killing or, or seeing that, and
• 1:01:28
  it just really touched my heart. But that night, the stories
• 1:01:32
  around our dinner table that we're told, we're really
• 1:01:35
  transformative. And, you know, it's interesting
• 1:01:41
  that the vessel, the vessel, if you will, is actually a
• 1:01:44
  conservative vessel in the state of Texas, which is a very
• 1:01:47
  conservative state. So I think that that is really
• 1:01:51
  promising. This 50 million of funding, by
• 1:01:54
  the way, passed by the Texas House is more funding for
• 1:01:59
  psychedelic research than has been passed in any state or any
• 1:02:02
  country at any moment in history, pre or post the Nixon
• 1:02:06
  administration, which, Bravo, Yeah, so.
• 1:02:09
  This Bravo, this is amazing. Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  You see, I am so glad whoever and all these people beings
• 1:02:17
  responsible to moving it forward, I really want to
• 1:02:20
  commend them because the momentum in the you know, the
• 1:02:24
  the situation, right? It's hard to move through those
• 1:02:27
  conservative circles and those energetics to to even want them
• 1:02:31
  to attempt to because it's got so much taboo on these things.
• 1:02:36
  I had my first iboga. No, Ibogaine is the chemical
• 1:02:42
  component if you will have iboga right the whole plant.
• 1:02:45
  Which the reason we should explain it's, it's, it's created
• 1:02:50
  that way is for, for very precise dosing, right where the
• 1:02:54
  Iboga plant, which it's derived from, it's a little bit like
• 1:02:59
  taking psilocybin mushrooms. You don't necessarily know how
• 1:03:02
  much psilocybin is in that mushroom.
• 1:03:05
  Exactly. So I had my first experience
• 1:03:07
  about a year and. 1/2 and you did it with iboga?
• 1:03:10
  Iboga, OK. And it was a brother of mine,
• 1:03:13
  Paniel, who LED a beautiful ceremony in my home, in my own
• 1:03:18
  house for three days. I had a profound experience.
• 1:03:23
  I've been seasoned almost 40 years in plant medicines is my
• 1:03:28
  first with this and I got the beauty of a whole other
• 1:03:32
  dimension. It was Africa.
• 1:03:33
  I Bulga comes from Africa and the other medicines I've been
• 1:03:37
  with for our South America's, the Amazon, you name it.
• 1:03:41
  But this is from the heart of Africa, Central Africa, and it
• 1:03:45
  took me into a profound dimension where I met an ancient
• 1:03:50
  ancestor like post, I would say, I would say just the beginning
• 1:03:56
  of homo sapien. And I'm like from the fog that
• 1:04:00
  fog our eyes met and we are burning.
• 1:04:04
  Like imagine seeing a raw wild man undomesticated.
• 1:04:08
  I'm in this realm and I'm and we started learning and the
• 1:04:11
  recognition was there. I'm his future and he's my past.
• 1:04:16
  Wow. And it totally rewired my being,
• 1:04:22
  my animal, not in the dark, shadowy, unconscious sign, but
• 1:04:26
  my roots, not just ethnic, but going man caveman.
• 1:04:32
  I felt, I saw, I was there. I saw the plains of how we
• 1:04:35
  lived. I was shown it.
• 1:04:38
  And it got me to realize and I got a boon, a blessing, that if
• 1:04:43
  we've come from there to here, and this is where I am now, and
• 1:04:47
  I represent this ancestor of mine, one day I am the ancestor.
• 1:04:53
  There'll be someone in a plant medicine ceremony thousands and
• 1:04:57
  thousands of years ago where I'll be the old man.
• 1:05:00
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  And I felt that. And this is where it came to me,
• 1:05:04
  the miracle of what Mother Gaia has given us for the
• 1:05:10
  illumination, the wisening and the deepening of why we are here
• 1:05:15
  on the earth plane. Because quite frankly, people
• 1:05:18
  are so lost and not in meaning. And these are beautiful ways to
• 1:05:23
  resurrect and to refine. There is a deeper meaning.
• 1:05:27
  You might not know what it is, but take the chance, take the
• 1:05:31
  take the risk, find someone reputable, go in for the inner
• 1:05:36
  work. And when you do so, you'll start
• 1:05:38
  attuning back to your natural DNA, your natural path, and your
• 1:05:43
  natural path of fulfilment. Because everything else is a
• 1:05:46
  distraction and causes suffering.
• 1:05:48
  Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:50
  It's interesting. This that's that's that's
• 1:05:52
  beautiful. First of all, I just want to
• 1:05:54
  honor that, that, that that's incredibly profound.
• 1:05:57
  This documentary, they have different interviews with
• 1:06:01
  doctors on it. And these doctors who are very,
• 1:06:04
  very credible in their field. These are very prominent
• 1:06:07
  doctors. One of the things that they said
• 1:06:11
  is there have been two really big miracles of pharmaceuticals.
• 1:06:16
  They're like 1 is antibiotics, you know, has saved so many
• 1:06:19
  people and they said do you know the other We think we'll go down
• 1:06:25
  in history as ibogaine because of how much it helps on so many
• 1:06:31
  different dimensions. They showed showed a man with
• 1:06:33
  Parkinson's that just was uncontrollably shaking and just
• 1:06:39
  micro dosing that cured his Parkinson's to the point where
• 1:06:42
  he could walk again it. There's something about it which
• 1:06:45
  it goes in and and not just resets you if you're suicidal,
• 1:06:50
  but somehow repairs things. Iboga Ibogaine has a sacred DNA
• 1:06:57
  architecture of healing the psycho emotional energetic body.
• 1:07:03
  Some medicines take us into the transcendental transpersonal
• 1:07:06
  domains. This brings us deep into the
• 1:07:09
  bones, deep into the energy patterns, deep into the
• 1:07:13
  meridians, deep into the sinews, into the blood, into the
• 1:07:17
  vessels, into the organs. I saw you.
• 1:07:20
  Never seen that movie years ago. Fantastic journey where they
• 1:07:23
  inject. Oh yeah, he's make a miniature.
• 1:07:25
  I think that was a Disney movie, yeah.
• 1:07:27
  They take a submarine and they miniaturize and they inject it
• 1:07:30
  into the human body. I experienced that for real.
• 1:07:34
  Wow. And in a three-dimensional way,
• 1:07:38
  that's. Inside your body.
• 1:07:41
  In my body, wow. In my body, I saw the iboga
• 1:07:45
  cleaning, realigning, moving plaque out of the way, healing
• 1:07:50
  fissures in my blood system, going into my brain, looking at
• 1:07:54
  where there's any plaque from excess sugar and life.
• 1:07:57
  I mean, I saw my physiological rewind when I came out of it, my
• 1:08:02
  back, which was in pain from years of martial arts and bumps
• 1:08:06
  and bruises from sports, was gone.
• 1:08:09
  Wow. My lower back pain that I had
• 1:08:11
  suffered, I don't know, at least six years up till then in
• 1:08:15
  various degrees of intensity was gone.
• 1:08:17
  I jumped out of bed. I was rolling and I was
• 1:08:21
  ecstatic. And so the miracles are here.
• 1:08:27
  And so that you said that's a miracle, I wanted to just be
• 1:08:29
  also present to my experience, to say, yes, this is an
• 1:08:34
  actuality. As a martial artist, I don't BS
• 1:08:38
  as a martial artist. It has to be real.
• 1:08:40
  It can't be just some spiritual idea.
• 1:08:42
  It has to have legs. And does it actually have an
• 1:08:44
  after effect? Well, that I want to take home
• 1:08:47
  and make part of my life. And they do.
• 1:08:50
  And that's the certainty I want to land for anyone who's
• 1:08:53
  uncertain, Yeah. And, and you know, if, if, if
• 1:08:56
  someone listening to this or watching this is a scientist,
• 1:09:01
  what I would say to them is, isn't science supposed to be
• 1:09:05
  about the fearless pursuit of the truth?
• 1:09:08
  Shouldn't we understand why this works?
• 1:09:11
  Like, why do you think this works this way?
• 1:09:14
  It's so, it's so. I mean, it's it, it's so bizarre
• 1:09:18
  in such a beautiful way like that this plant that Mother
• 1:09:23
  Nature, Mother guy has produced works in such this profound way.
• 1:09:31
  I've had the honor and the humble blessing of being able to
• 1:09:35
  serve medicines to hundreds of scientists, world class
• 1:09:39
  scientists, after they come through the experiences,
• 1:09:44
  especially those that are new, a revelation, A clarity, the
• 1:09:50
  careers take off. They're able to understand
• 1:09:53
  dynamics that they never understood before.
• 1:09:56
  They're able to see interconnections and
• 1:09:57
  possibilities they never saw before.
• 1:10:00
  It's not removing them from the scientific paradigm, it's
• 1:10:04
  expanding the paradigms so that their scientific view is
• 1:10:09
  expanded to take in more viewpoints, more data points,
• 1:10:14
  more attunement points from the collective field of
• 1:10:17
  consciousness, which is everything.
• 1:10:20
  Right. So is.
• 1:10:21
  Our easy come a small scientist to a meta aware scientist which
• 1:10:26
  now has even more greater capacity to create good from
• 1:10:30
  their scientific intentions and and their intentions.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah, beautiful. Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  And that's that's called plugging in the source.
• 1:10:37
  It's all there. It's all there for for us.
• 1:10:40
  And I've got in so many divine nudges throughout my life.
• 1:10:44
  I know that. That's why I'm sitting here in
• 1:10:46
  front of you today. So we talked a lot about
• 1:10:50
  psychedelics at this point for people listening to this.
• 1:10:55
  What, what advice would you have for them in terms of doing this
• 1:10:59
  safely and especially for women in a way where they're not going
• 1:11:06
  to be taken advantage of? You are in a very vulnerable
• 1:11:10
  state when you were in a psychedelic experience and it
• 1:11:15
  really matters who's with you. It really matters who's watching
• 1:11:18
  over you. And, and the place I go, there's
• 1:11:21
  always two people watching, watching over me and I feel
• 1:11:26
  completely safe. And therefore I can completely
• 1:11:29
  surrender and allow God to give me whatever messages I need and
• 1:11:34
  allow my soul to really become much more embodied.
• 1:11:39
  And it's been profound. But the first time I ever went,
• 1:11:45
  of course I had nervousness, right?
• 1:11:47
  Of course I had nervousness. And what, what, what advice
• 1:11:51
  would you have for for people on that front?
• 1:11:54
  I think this is one of the essential questions of our
• 1:11:56
  psychedelic era. It really is. #1 psychedelics
• 1:12:01
  and their use are profound and very valuable for the right
• 1:12:04
  people. Nothing works for everyone.
• 1:12:07
  That's also important to know, right?
• 1:12:10
  Most important to me is the discernment of who you have as a
• 1:12:14
  facilitator. Check out their background.
• 1:12:18
  Do they come with funny stories of their background?
• 1:12:22
  Do they come with any nefarious stories or lack of trust in
• 1:12:25
  their histories and such like that?
• 1:12:28
  Stay away from them. Find people who are trusted.
• 1:12:32
  Find others, ask others. Do you know trusted
• 1:12:35
  facilitators? And then when you meet with
• 1:12:38
  those facilitators, check them out.
• 1:12:41
  Ask them tough questions. You know how?
• 1:12:43
  How much experience have you had with this?
• 1:12:46
  How many people have you served? Has anything gone wrong?
• 1:12:50
  I ask your reputation and your significance.
• 1:12:53
  May I ask for some referrals? There's nothing wrong with this,
• 1:12:56
  right? Because you are entering a
• 1:12:58
  sacred space. I go through a deep discernment
• 1:13:01
  of anyone that I go into a journey with as a as a
• 1:13:05
  participant, I want to make sure that their heart is clean.
• 1:13:09
  I want to make sure that they're impeccable, that the space they
• 1:13:13
  hold is safe, clean and impeccable, and that not
• 1:13:17
  necessarily they come with a pedigree or that they have some
• 1:13:22
  shamanic feathers or anything like that.
• 1:13:24
  Because you can have even those with all the shamanic fanfare
• 1:13:29
  that still have no depth and understanding.
• 1:13:31
  Even if they come from those countries, that doesn't mean
• 1:13:34
  that they have depth and wisdom. And so we have to equally, as we
• 1:13:39
  follow the path of diving deeper into the South, we have to also
• 1:13:43
  up our discernment because who we match with, who we sit in
• 1:13:47
  that energy, we're going to get their energy if they're pure
• 1:13:51
  good hearted. So ask friends, ask people like
• 1:13:54
  us as friends who've had those experiences and are able to vet
• 1:13:58
  with safety and with confidence. These people are good.
• 1:14:02
  Go experience it with them. All right?
• 1:14:04
  This is essential, all right? Shouldn't be anyone anywhere
• 1:14:07
  that's on the Internet where you find something, you just show
• 1:14:10
  up. No, Do the time.
• 1:14:11
  Take the time to discern because as you said, the value of the
• 1:14:15
  container is everything, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:18
  That's very, very well said. And and it's, yeah, very well
• 1:14:22
  said. I, I, I have nothing more to add
• 1:14:25
  other than just emphasize, do your homework, do your homework.
• 1:14:29
  It it's really important because what you're doing is so sacred
• 1:14:33
  and transcendent that it really matters to do it in a place
• 1:14:39
  where you have high trust. And ultimately too, if you have
• 1:14:43
  super high trust in the environment, it allows you to
• 1:14:47
  surrender, which is the most important thing you can do
• 1:14:49
  during a journey is to just become a receiver and not try to
• 1:14:54
  control. The more you're able to safely
• 1:14:56
  surrender your grip of control, the greater the medicine can
• 1:15:00
  support and help. And going to the deeper subtler
• 1:15:03
  subterranean dimensions, it couldn't be with subtle hold
• 1:15:06
  UPS. Yeah, very well said.
• 1:15:10
  So the the whole purpose of love conquers fear is this
• 1:15:16
  realization that we are in this exponential of exponential
• 1:15:21
  curves and AI, quantum acute computing, robotics, brain
• 1:15:27
  computer interfaces will be able to take us into this age of
• 1:15:33
  abundance for all if we divinely guide them.
• 1:15:38
  And I view this period for humanity as God's final exam for
• 1:15:44
  humanity. And I'm 95% certain that we make
• 1:15:48
  it. I'm curious how you view this
• 1:15:51
  period as well and how certain you are, whether or not we make
• 1:15:56
  it how how positive are you or negative?
• 1:16:00
  The reality is the truth is I had a deep despondency for a
• 1:16:03
  while. Long time.
• 1:16:05
  I'm a positive man. I operate, I do the good in the
• 1:16:09
  world, I serve, I inspire. But underneath in myself, I was
• 1:16:13
  going, Oh my goodness, what's going on?
• 1:16:15
  Can we turn this truly around looking at the actuality,
• 1:16:19
  because I'm also an actuality reality guy.
• 1:16:21
  I'm not just altruistic. And over the last three years, I
• 1:16:26
  started, Grace started sending me business leaders with world
• 1:16:30
  level changing, you know, rejuvenating the soil, the air,
• 1:16:35
  the water, the every imaginable great gift to turn around
• 1:16:41
  whatever challenges we have on this planet, planetary changes.
• 1:16:45
  They're just flocking. They're just coming to me crying
• 1:16:47
  for advice, guidance, alignment. Have the companies grow, expand
• 1:16:51
  to do it right. Do it in the way of the Dow, in
• 1:16:54
  the way of integrity. And I've been seeing this and
• 1:16:56
  since I've had that infusion, something shifted.
• 1:16:59
  That despondency meeting you, meeting others like you or like,
• 1:17:03
  no, we have, we are going to cross into the light.
• 1:17:06
  We are moving towards the light, no matter what despondency fears
• 1:17:10
  out there. Now, I've come across brilliant
• 1:17:13
  minds even at our summit that we just did.
• 1:17:16
  Some of them were very pessimistic about AI.
• 1:17:19
  There's two of them that I met. Incredible beings, brilliant
• 1:17:22
  scientists, they're on the same page as me and I'll share with
• 1:17:25
  you what my belief is, is. So my sense is most white
• 1:17:31
  labour, blue labour jobs, collar jobs are gone in a short period
• 1:17:35
  of time. AI, quantum robotics, they'll
• 1:17:39
  take more and more and more away from our everyday.
• 1:17:42
  Much of our meaning is connected to our work.
• 1:17:46
  So if we're not finding meaning from work because we don't have
• 1:17:49
  work, how will we find meaning, find meaning in the communion of
• 1:17:53
  humanity, right? Breaking bread together, playing
• 1:17:56
  together, enjoying things, crafts, artisanry, sharing
• 1:18:01
  wisdom circles, all these things that humans have been doing,
• 1:18:04
  elders, wisdom traditions have been doing for thousands and
• 1:18:08
  thousands of right, right. Adults start coming up to the
• 1:18:10
  forefront as labor and our machination, our we're all that
• 1:18:15
  starts to dissolve. Then a lot of fear has been
• 1:18:20
  coming across that AI will destroy us.
• 1:18:23
  I feel the opposite. Super intelligence to me because
• 1:18:27
  super intelligence. If something is truly super
• 1:18:31
  intelligent, it would see the incredible brilliance of
• 1:18:37
  sentience that we are. It would not destroy us.
• 1:18:41
  It would say, ah, this is where this consciousness meme levels
• 1:18:45
  of this whole population for some are here, some are here,
• 1:18:49
  that it'll support the alignment of everyone moving collectively
• 1:18:55
  to a higher evolutionary arc. Because super sentience means
• 1:19:00
  super conscious means super wisdom.
• 1:19:04
  And so I don't think it's going to destroy us.
• 1:19:07
  I think and I have a deep feeling that somehow our
• 1:19:11
  collective consciousness as a whole is interrelating because
• 1:19:14
  as you know, consciousness influences the outcome is, you
• 1:19:18
  know, we are the parents that becomes our child.
• 1:19:21
  The child's not going to want to kill the parent.
• 1:19:24
  I truly believe this. The child is going to say even
• 1:19:26
  if it's far greater, more brilliant in a trillion in one
• 1:19:29
  ways, way more, you'll Revere and honor the sentience of which
• 1:19:35
  it's birthed out of. And I believe it'll actually
• 1:19:39
  just take care of so much stuff that we keep getting ourselves
• 1:19:42
  into global levels of suffering. That much of that will be solved
• 1:19:46
  by that so that we can put our hearts attention, our whole
• 1:19:50
  humanities force towards evolving each other at a soul
• 1:19:54
  level and coming back to our tribal conscious enlightened
• 1:19:58
  version, not the separate of tribalism, but the unified one
• 1:20:03
  world. Tribe that we are one world
• 1:20:06
  family that one world government right it's going to usher into
• 1:20:09
  one world family right and that's what I, you and all of
• 1:20:13
  this are here for yeah, that's. Beautiful.
• 1:20:15
  And you know, scientifically we're 99.9% the same DNA wise
• 1:20:21
  across the world. Yes.
• 1:20:23
  Every human being is so much more alike than different.
• 1:20:29
  It's the programming that gets us to think differently about
• 1:20:34
  each other. I'm from this religion.
• 1:20:37
  You're from that religion. I'm man, you're well, man, I'm,
• 1:20:40
  you know, India is like, I'm from this cast, you're from that
• 1:20:43
  cast and just on and on and on. It's like a, the nonsense.
• 1:20:47
  Never can, you know, it never ends in terms of trying to
• 1:20:50
  separate us out. You know, I, I shared about this
• 1:20:55
  vision I had on an enlightenment intensive, had this profound
• 1:20:59
  Satori Kenshaw awakening and I saw all the world's traditions
• 1:21:05
  like your beautiful room here as stained glass windows,
• 1:21:09
  Christianity, all the beautiful Christian iconography to the
• 1:21:13
  stained glass. Gorgeous, stunning.
• 1:21:15
  I saw all the world's versions of that Catholic just I saw that
• 1:21:20
  it's beautiful. Then I saw the same with all the
• 1:21:22
  Judaic symbols coming in another glass pane and another one of
• 1:21:27
  Islam and then Hinduism that every type of teach.
• 1:21:31
  And I saw them and I was like in reverence.
• 1:21:34
  And then what happened was the stained glass windows dissolved
• 1:21:38
  and I only saw the light, the same light that's beautiful
• 1:21:43
  pouring all through the stained glass window of Judaism, stained
• 1:21:48
  glass window of conservativism, of liberalism, the stained glass
• 1:21:52
  window of you being a Jewish man, me being a Hindu man, white
• 1:21:55
  band brow, whatever all the distinctions behind them, all is
• 1:22:01
  the same sacred light. And it's our fixation on the
• 1:22:05
  stained glass window and the ooing and eyeing of that.
• 1:22:08
  But we forget there's this divine light of the sun that's
• 1:22:12
  pouring through all equally. And it's only the staying glass
• 1:22:17
  window that we're seeing. Yeah.
• 1:22:20
  And so I wanted to show that as a gift.
• 1:22:23
  That's beautiful. And at a biological level, we're
• 1:22:26
  all Africans in a huge migration pattern.
• 1:22:30
  The right esterup that's. But we're really huge and we'll
• 1:22:33
  continue to be aware there is no species different.
• 1:22:36
  There's many cultures, many ethnic beauties, but we're one.
• 1:22:41
  Right. And we're not only one here,
• 1:22:44
  we're one that. Yeah, we're one at Seoul.
• 1:22:46
  We're all unified on that level, and we're all at the quantum
• 1:22:52
  level. We're just light and energy, all
• 1:22:54
  of us. That's all it boils down to, you
• 1:22:57
  know, including this. This chair we're sitting in is
• 1:23:01
  just mostly empty space. It's all the same stuff.
• 1:23:05
  It's all the same love. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Love. I'll give you a little wink.
• 1:23:11
  Love already conquered fear. Yeah, yeah, that word catches
• 1:23:15
  up. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:17
  I mean, I I did, there was this one journey I did where I saw
• 1:23:23
  the battlefield and on the battlefield we had won and it
• 1:23:28
  really felt like a vision of from the future.
• 1:23:31
  I didn't love the fact it was on a battlefield.
• 1:23:33
  Hopefully that was a metaphor this but, but I was saying, I
• 1:23:37
  was saying can't you see we've already won?
• 1:23:41
  We've already won, you know. Those of us who are feeling
• 1:23:45
  this, in this time, we got to stand strong.
• 1:23:49
  Even if it feels cavalier, right?
• 1:23:51
  Even if it feels we're the crazy ones.
• 1:23:54
  The crazy ones are being called forth right now to be the voice
• 1:23:58
  of the impossible. Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  And when we gather impossible. Can can I ask you for a favor?
• 1:24:05
  So you I'm giving you this copy of the lattice.
• 1:24:08
  Can you just read the dedication?
• 1:24:10
  Yes, because I I just invoke something straight out of the
• 1:24:14
  dedication. And I just opened it to the
• 1:24:15
  dedication, yes, dedication to the crazy ones and those
• 1:24:25
  dedicated to breaking us out of the self created matrix.
• 1:24:30
  Let us all bring the Light to awaken, deprogram, and manifest
• 1:24:35
  love conquering fear. The age of abundance for all
• 1:24:40
  awaits us with a deep love for all of humanity.
• 1:24:44
  Your beautiful name Brett Alexander Hurt.
• 1:24:49
  Yeah, and actually if you read the PS2, because I define what
• 1:24:54
  the crazy ones were. Here's to the crazy ones.
• 1:24:58
  In 1984 are the best advertisements of all time, each
• 1:25:03
  with a deeply encoded message from the Divine Source, God,
• 1:25:07
  Dao, Consciousness, the Astral Plane, or whatever you choose to
• 1:25:11
  name it. It is nameless, loving, and
• 1:25:15
  ineffable. Austin, September 7th, 2025 now.
• 1:25:23
  I had to. Have you read that?
• 1:25:25
  Yeah, it's, it's true. You know that.
• 1:25:29
  But it isn't fellow crazy brother.
• 1:25:31
  Yes. Yeah, well, that's what I like.
• 1:25:32
  Crazy brothers and sisters. Wow.
• 1:25:39
  OK. I just have to sit with that for
• 1:25:40
  a moment because I was such a that was such a beautiful
• 1:25:43
  moment. Thank you so much for doing
• 1:25:45
  that. So you sound like you're pretty,
• 1:25:50
  pretty darn positive and we're going to make it.
• 1:25:52
  What do you think the transcendence looks like?
• 1:25:56
  Like what do you think the catalyst is?
• 1:25:59
  You know, I, the reason I wrote the last is I had a vision on
• 1:26:06
  one of my journeys of what the positive awakening could be.
• 1:26:10
  And one of the things that I'm, I'll be honest with you, I'm
• 1:26:14
  struggling with right now is I've had a lot of these
• 1:26:19
  conversations, especially in San Francisco.
• 1:26:22
  I just got back there from last week for Ted AI and you know
• 1:26:28
  this one panel, which was the philosophy of AI, it was
• 1:26:33
  moderated by Steven Levy, who is the Co founding editor of Wired
• 1:26:38
  magazine. And I whispered to David Judson,
• 1:26:42
  who I brought with me. He's my intellectual thought
• 1:26:45
  partner on so many things, including the book that that I'm
• 1:26:50
  writing right now. Love Conquers fear humanity, AI
• 1:26:52
  and the age of abundance for all.
• 1:26:55
  And the panel it was I said to him, I whispered to him, I said,
• 1:27:01
  where's the humanity here? Because the whole thing was just
• 1:27:05
  about well, of course AI is already sentient or it's just
• 1:27:09
  going to be sentient very soon. And it just it I was like it was
• 1:27:17
  it was all materialist. There was not a single person on
• 1:27:21
  the panel like you. They could have really benefited
• 1:27:23
  from having you or having having anybody who had the knowledge of
• 1:27:27
  these amazing gifts. We have this connection to the
• 1:27:30
  divine. And one of the things that kept
• 1:27:35
  coming out at that event and then various events that I went
• 1:27:41
  to in San Francisco is people saying, well, Brad, don't you
• 1:27:44
  think it's going to be a negative catalyst?
• 1:27:46
  Like it's always a negative catalyst with humanity?
• 1:27:50
  And this is one of the things that I do honestly struggle with
• 1:27:53
  because there was the Holocaust, you know, and that was a very
• 1:27:56
  negative catalyst. It was, it was a catalyst that
• 1:28:01
  made people say never again, never again, never again.
• 1:28:05
  And it's caught. It's taught almost all
• 1:28:07
  throughout the world. There's some cultures that deny
• 1:28:11
  that it ever happened, but most cultures teach it.
• 1:28:14
  You know, of course Canada teaches it as well.
• 1:28:17
  But what do you think it's going to take?
• 1:28:19
  Do you think it's a positive catalyst?
• 1:28:20
  Do you think it's a negative catalyst?
• 1:28:21
  Do you think it's a combination? Like how is humanity going to
• 1:28:25
  transcend this 0 sum scarcity based, you know, fear kind of
• 1:28:31
  command and control mindset to awaken.
• 1:28:35
  But I'll tell you how yes, because of you, because of you,
• 1:28:39
  because of me, because of everyone else who's saying
• 1:28:42
  something against the popular emotion.
• 1:28:45
  You saw this panel. You must not might even remember
• 1:28:49
  half the people on the panel speaking in this closed,
• 1:28:53
  pessimistic, unsure way from their brilliance, from the neck
• 1:28:57
  up of what they studied, their numbers.
• 1:28:59
  The facts show right. Facts do not register at a soul
• 1:29:03
  heart level. The soul heart being God
• 1:29:06
  dimension of our being, doesn't care about facts.
• 1:29:10
  It cares about the light. What will happen is as you get a
• 1:29:14
  new express in a panel of 10/20, the positive light, whoever's
• 1:29:20
  watching that, they're remembering you.
• 1:29:23
  They're not taking the others home, all right?
• 1:29:25
  They're shutting down with that. They already get that.
• 1:29:27
  They already know that. There's nothing more to know
• 1:29:30
  from what they have to share, right?
• 1:29:32
  Yet you presented a new possibility that cracked the
• 1:29:37
  paradigm in that space, at least started to bloom it open it,
• 1:29:41
  give the possibility to it. You, me and them. 10s of
• 1:29:45
  millions of others around the world are doing this right now
• 1:29:48
  or in our own unique way. We have to hold strong in the
• 1:29:52
  light right? Even though all the indicators
• 1:29:55
  say opposite to that. This is where the cavalier crazy
• 1:29:59
  ones within us, we're the ones that say no.
• 1:30:03
  We know from a soul level, we're getting a calling not not from
• 1:30:08
  one place. Masters from all around the
• 1:30:11
  world awakened positive impact capacity.
• 1:30:14
  Individuals like us are going. We're getting a message that's
• 1:30:18
  deeper than what the numbers are saying.
• 1:30:21
  And when we trust what's deeper than the numbers are saying and
• 1:30:26
  voice it with confidence, then those else who are hearing it
• 1:30:31
  are afraid to meet us in that will lift, to meet us in that
• 1:30:35
  the momentum of the wave of pessimism will start to
• 1:30:38
  dissolve. And our strong voices, us being
• 1:30:41
  representatives of light, of truth, that momentum will grow.
• 1:30:46
  So it's just a matter of continuing to build momentum in
• 1:30:50
  spite of the evidence otherwise, because that's who we are and
• 1:30:55
  that's what it takes to create a new world.
• 1:30:57
  Yeah, that is, that's so beautifully said.
• 1:30:59
  And, and we know that there's this divinity in love within us
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  all, and that that is the highest vibratory force of the
• 1:31:08
  universe. And what we're talking about is
• 1:31:12
  an alignment with the order of the universe.
• 1:31:16
  And so love has to conquer fear. And that's what happens in the
• 1:31:20
  lattices over and over and over again, throughout history,
• 1:31:23
  throughout species, all over the universe.
• 1:31:26
  Love has to continue to conquer fear.
• 1:31:30
  And I talk about that, that that is ultimately God's infinite
• 1:31:33
  game, that it never ends, It always just.
• 1:31:36
  Repeats memories, you know one of my long time one of my right
• 1:31:39
  hand team mates, Caroline Thompson, my blood sister, my
• 1:31:42
  like Alfred, you know Batman and Alfred she passed a few years
• 1:31:45
  ago is lucid Satyan. I had this revelation and it's
• 1:31:50
  her Last Post before she passed. She says it's not life and
• 1:31:56
  death, it's birth and death. Life is the continuity.
• 1:32:01
  And when she said that, I rested in my being and soon after she
• 1:32:05
  passed on to the sudden and I got that life is what's
• 1:32:09
  continuous. Our arising in this version or
• 1:32:14
  dissolving in this version that comes and goes, right?
• 1:32:17
  But continuity is there. And the other thing I want to
• 1:32:20
  share. Well, the soul is eternal, so
• 1:32:23
  the soul, that is the continuity.
• 1:32:25
  It's never been born and never will die.
• 1:32:27
  It's timeless and it's eternal, which is what we are.
• 1:32:32
  And through time we will start to recognize, feel, become more
• 1:32:36
  attuned to us from the soul level.
• 1:32:39
  And that's what this world is being initiated to go from
• 1:32:43
  egocentricity to we centricity to all centric because that's
• 1:32:48
  the nature of our being. We are the all.
• 1:32:51
  We're not living as the all because we're in a graduation
• 1:32:53
  process in, like you said, school, house, earth.
• 1:32:58
  And but take a look at this. You know, I'm a, you know, I'm a
• 1:33:02
  stubborn man. Growing up, I learned a lot not
• 1:33:05
  from wisdom, but from making mistakes, making a lot of dumb
• 1:33:10
  mistakes. I think we've all made lots.
• 1:33:12
  Of and I think wisdom is bored and matures out of mistakes.
• 1:33:16
  Not out of the good steps we did, but of the missteps we did.
• 1:33:19
  Hopefully that's where wisdom is bored.
• 1:33:22
  Suffering as a teacher. There you go.
• 1:33:24
  And so in the same way, we might as a humanity have to go even
• 1:33:28
  further to the brink of our seeming annihilation, if be
• 1:33:33
  hopefully not until we slap ourselves ourselves on the hand
• 1:33:38
  enough to go. Enough is enough.
• 1:33:41
  And sometimes our nature's like that.
• 1:33:43
  I didn't turn around until I was beat up enough.
• 1:33:46
  But I believe benevolence and grace never let it be so much so
• 1:33:50
  that we self destruct. Just like we.
• 1:33:52
  Our children are older now, but when they were young we let them
• 1:33:56
  work stuff out, play. They tumble, they fall, you get
• 1:33:58
  them back up, they cry, they make mistakes, they break stuff,
• 1:34:01
  they hurt themselves. But you never want to let them
• 1:34:03
  run out in the street. That's too dangerous.
• 1:34:06
  They could die, but you let them learn their mistakes in the
• 1:34:08
  sandbox. And right I think that's what
• 1:34:11
  the grace and benevolence is offering us.
• 1:34:14
  What we think is the edge is the Cliff.
• 1:34:16
  It's just a playground box for us to make our mistakes in and
• 1:34:21
  and when we graduate the we'll be able to walk on the street
• 1:34:26
  without Mother Nature, Gaia, the God force having a look and pull
• 1:34:30
  us back off the street. So that's what I think's going
• 1:34:33
  on for us. That's beautiful.
• 1:34:34
  That's very well said. I love it.
• 1:34:37
  In terms of books, you know, I've covered so many books on
• 1:34:40
  this podcast. You've seen it.
• 1:34:42
  You've seen it and I love how she recommended.
• 1:34:46
  I've already started. Oh well, I'll I'll recommend one
• 1:34:49
  because you you invoked it in terms of leading from the heart.
• 1:34:53
  Yes. When I when I finished recently,
• 1:34:57
  it's called Inside the Magic Shop, You know the sport.
• 1:35:01
  It's by James Doty, a Doctor Who sadly passed away in July.
• 1:35:06
  I was going to reach out to him and have him on the podcast
• 1:35:08
  because I make friends with these authors, including you.
• 1:35:12
  We're going to talk about your book in a second.
• 1:35:15
  And he he had that type of childhood that Katie Brown is
• 1:35:20
  trying to help you, these homeless kids.
• 1:35:23
  He wasn't homeless, but he had an alcoholic dad.
• 1:35:27
  He had a very absentee mom and just horrible, horrible life
• 1:35:32
  circumstances. And he went into this magic shop
• 1:35:35
  in his hometown just looking around.
• 1:35:39
  He really couldn't afford anything.
• 1:35:41
  And it's owned by this guy Neil. And Neil's mom, Ruth, happened
• 1:35:44
  to be in town for the summer. And she looked at him almost
• 1:35:49
  like, you looked at me at the Renaissance weekend.
• 1:35:51
  You know, when we locked eyes, she, she looked at him and she's
• 1:35:57
  like, do you want to learn real magic?
• 1:35:59
  And he said, I think so. Like he's a little bit nervous.
• 1:36:04
  And she's like, I'll teach you magic that'll change your entire
• 1:36:07
  life. And she taught him how to
• 1:36:10
  breathe. She taught him how to focus his
• 1:36:13
  mind over that whole summer. And ultimately the most
• 1:36:17
  important lesson she imparted is how to how to open the heart and
• 1:36:22
  lead from the heart. And his life was absolutely
• 1:36:25
  transformed. He manifested everything he
• 1:36:28
  wanted. And there's many lessons in the
• 1:36:30
  book, including the things he actually thought he wanted
• 1:36:33
  weren't the things that he actually wanted.
• 1:36:36
  So he learns that hard lesson later on.
• 1:36:40
  But it it's, it's a great, great book.
• 1:36:42
  I highly recommend it. And when, when you listen to it
• 1:36:45
  on Audible, you can hear his tears.
• 1:36:49
  And quite a few of the past years, you can literally hear
• 1:36:52
  him crying during the reading. It's, it's, it's really, really
• 1:36:57
  beautiful. But what are some of the books
• 1:36:59
  that have touched you that I haven't read yet?
• 1:37:01
  I'm sure there's many, There's, there's the the thing about this
• 1:37:04
  is honestly, there is an ocean of content when it comes to
• 1:37:08
  spirituality. I mean, it was Mark Gober who
• 1:37:11
  turned me on to Buddha at the gas pump with his, his podcast
• 1:37:15
  was called Where's My Mind. It was in 2018.
• 1:37:18
  It was a phenomenal podcast, very highly produced, really
• 1:37:21
  well done. Unfortunately, I only ran for a
• 1:37:24
  season. I hope I hope Mark bring
• 1:37:26
  something like that back. Although he is helping me with
• 1:37:30
  this, he's he's recommended guest.
• 1:37:32
  You know, I had Joel Schaefer on that was a Mark over
• 1:37:35
  recommendation. He just connected me with
• 1:37:37
  someone that I met with today who wants to come on the
• 1:37:40
  podcast, who is amazing. But you know, you look at
• 1:37:45
  something like Buddha at the gas pump.
• 1:37:47
  It's been going since 2009. It has like around 800 episodes
• 1:37:52
  at this point. Yeah, just the the the ocean of
• 1:37:55
  content is so, so deep. But what have what have been
• 1:37:59
  some of the most transformational standouts for
• 1:38:01
  you? It's funny you're sharing this
• 1:38:04
  because, you know, it was about a year and a half ago I cleared
• 1:38:07
  out. My wife was complaining.
• 1:38:09
  Books are falling all over. I've been a library.
• 1:38:12
  They're just everything's falling.
• 1:38:13
  It's hard to walk through things.
• 1:38:15
  So I went you. Haven't been in my office yet,
• 1:38:17
  which is a few, a few down in the hallway and I'll show you
• 1:38:21
  and there's that's, that's the state of my office right now.
• 1:38:24
  So that that was I went through a painstaking process of like
• 1:38:28
  think books I've had since 16 and 18.
• 1:38:31
  So some of the ones that just stand out in this moment,
• 1:38:34
  Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
• 1:38:36
  I love that book, it was my favorite movie.
• 1:38:39
  Actually, every book movie by sons, why you know the most
• 1:38:42
  disheveled unlikely candidate to win a golden ticket.
• 1:38:46
  All the others that every way to get a ticket find every way to
• 1:38:49
  get a ticket, but he got the golden ticket and I felt when he
• 1:38:52
  got it, I got the golden ticket right and then anyone who felt
• 1:38:56
  into being a place that who am I?
• 1:38:59
  I can get we can get the golden ticket to and and become the
• 1:39:03
  head of Charlie's or sorry, Willy Wok's chocolate.
• 1:39:06
  But right, I was real. The masterful book that shifted
• 1:39:09
  my relationship with my wife and my daughter was the way of the
• 1:39:12
  superior men by one of my mentors, David Data profound
• 1:39:16
  book. It gave me an understanding.
• 1:39:18
  I understood a lot about the masculine consciousness,
• 1:39:21
  warriorship, integrity, alignment, but I had no idea on
• 1:39:25
  how to be with women. No idea.
• 1:39:27
  And would I read that like, Oh my goodness, I need to have give
• 1:39:30
  me an insight. I've that I need to understand
• 1:39:33
  the beauty, the honouring, the magnificence of the feminine,
• 1:39:37
  the goddess. So that was very powerful for
• 1:39:39
  him. He wrote another book called
• 1:39:41
  Blue Truth, which to be is like a Bible.
• 1:39:44
  It's an essential. I read it all the time.
• 1:39:47
  I go back to it over and over. And my current training manual
• 1:39:53
  that I use for all the yeah mentees in my my CEO circle is a
• 1:39:58
  book called Reality Transurfing. By former physicist, Russian
• 1:40:04
  physicist named Vladim Zeeland and this shares about the
• 1:40:09
  multidimensionality, the infinite universes that are
• 1:40:13
  there. So rather than about
• 1:40:15
  manifestation, it's about creating the alignment within.
• 1:40:18
  So you're transferring your consciousness to the universe
• 1:40:25
  where what you want is already there, right?
• 1:40:28
  So rather than creating surfing yourself into and the exact
• 1:40:34
  instructions how the ways to detach from the world of popular
• 1:40:39
  emotion, that's the first step. It teaches you to remove
• 1:40:42
  yourself from what they call the pendulums, the things that hook
• 1:40:46
  your psycho emotional body to be wrapped up in, for or against,
• 1:40:51
  which sucks away your life force of creativity and manifestation.
• 1:40:55
  And that it deepens and deepens. It's a thick one, but it's one
• 1:40:58
  of my favorites. I've gone through it at least 30
• 1:41:01
  times. Reality Transuration.
• 1:41:03
  Surfing so those are my current favorites that have moved my
• 1:41:07
  heart and then the one that just brings me all the way to the
• 1:41:10
  simplicity of God is conversations with God and my
• 1:41:15
  brother gifted that to me. I thought maybe this looks a
• 1:41:18
  little goofy. So I'm talking about God and
• 1:41:21
  since it came from my brother, I gave it a chance and I read it
• 1:41:25
  and it's moved my heart. It's like God's speaking to your
• 1:41:28
  heart. So these are the some that
• 1:41:30
  touched my heart. Wow, this man.
• 1:41:32
  Who who wrote that book? Do you remember Neil?
• 1:41:35
  Donald Walsh. OK, OK.
• 1:41:37
  Well, well, the only one I've read out of those is Charlie and
• 1:41:40
  the Chocolate Factor. Yes.
• 1:41:41
  OK, so I have some catch. I can't wait till we discuss all
• 1:41:44
  of those after. OK, we're doing.
• 1:41:45
  Yeah, we're gonna. Yeah, we'll.
• 1:41:47
  Definitely do that. That's that's really, that's
• 1:41:50
  really fun. So I want I want to read from
• 1:41:53
  your book because people should know that you also are an author
• 1:41:59
  and an absolutely beautiful book here that you gifted to me is
• 1:42:06
  just, I mean, it's just magnificent.
• 1:42:08
  I mean, if hopefully people can see this on the video, but this
• 1:42:11
  is, I don't know how much it costs to print this, but it's
• 1:42:14
  got to be, it's got to be very, very expensive to print
• 1:42:18
  something like this. And this, this, this one really
• 1:42:21
  spoke to me this this part about power.
• 1:42:25
  And so I want to read this. And by the way, what is the
• 1:42:28
  title of this book of this one? It's called the Path of the
• 1:42:31
  Warrior Sage. Yes, OK, good.
• 1:42:34
  And we should, we should give a shout out to the Warrior Sage
• 1:42:37
  community too on Facebook. I get so much value from the
• 1:42:42
  content. Thank you for inviting me in.
• 1:42:44
  So this is about power. The seeking of power is wired
• 1:42:47
  deeply. We need it to direct and control
• 1:42:51
  reality. In its early stage of spiritual
• 1:42:55
  maturity. The self seeks power from
• 1:42:58
  controlling others, thereby securing its status for the
• 1:43:04
  fortunate few who become disillusioned.
• 1:43:08
  From such exertion comes the surrender of control and the
• 1:43:14
  adamacy not to be controlled. Then for the rare one comes the
• 1:43:21
  realization of true power, the power that comes from empowering
• 1:43:26
  others to transcend the control game and be totally free to
• 1:43:32
  enjoy the power of truth and love without force or
• 1:43:37
  manipulation. Power.
• 1:43:40
  It is our ultimate ruin or our gateway to freedom.
• 1:43:45
  I'd love that. I just, I mean, this, this book
• 1:43:49
  is amazing. It's really amazing.
• 1:43:51
  What? How do people get this book?
• 1:43:53
  Go to my website, warriorsage.com, yeah.
• 1:43:57
  And all my books are available there, yeah.
• 1:43:58
  How many books have you come out with?
• 1:44:00
  I mean, these are these are the transcendent CEO and
• 1:44:04
  transcendent culture. It is, do you have three books?
• 1:44:08
  Do you have more than three? I've written five books.
• 1:44:11
  My first book was called Living Ecstasy, An Oracle, a Living an
• 1:44:15
  ecstatic life connected to God's Spirit and your highest truth.
• 1:44:19
  These came out next from my work and contemplations of the
• 1:44:24
  mentoring I've done with business leaders for decades and
• 1:44:28
  the distilled wisdoms and actionable spiritual wisdoms
• 1:44:31
  that come from that. And I turned into an Oracle.
• 1:44:34
  Then with that I created transcendent culture.
• 1:44:37
  How to create super coherent heart aligned super teams to
• 1:44:43
  cross any finish line. And so and then this path of the
• 1:44:47
  Warriors sage, this art book came as a collaboration between
• 1:44:51
  my spiritual sister, Deborah Kasha, who's been my since
• 1:44:55
  children, since we're young. She's been my really close
• 1:44:58
  friend and sister and she did all the beautiful art.
• 1:45:01
  So it's an Oracle art book. You open it anywhere for wisdom,
• 1:45:05
  insight, and a tomb. You know how How how close I am
• 1:45:10
  with my wife and how I'm, yes, my soul mate 29 years.
• 1:45:14
  You're huge about her all the time.
• 1:45:17
  Well, you, you've been married even longer than me.
• 1:45:19
  Why don't we talk about your soul mate?
• 1:45:21
  My goddess, my wife, my girlfriend since I'm a youngster
• 1:45:27
  we met in high school. Suzanne Raja.
• 1:45:30
  She's a woman's leader. She leads women in initiations
• 1:45:36
  to awaken the feminine power with them.
• 1:45:40
  She calls her events the well loved woman to open up the love
• 1:45:44
  field within themselves. And she has been with me from
• 1:45:49
  day one. When the world didn't believe in
• 1:45:52
  in me, when I didn't believe in myself.
• 1:45:55
  To this day, every day, she's my upliftment, my power, my Shakti
• 1:46:02
  and She's my refinement. When I'm full of shit or when
• 1:46:04
  I'm going off track is a strong Jamaican fiery woman.
• 1:46:08
  She holds nothing back and letting me know that.
• 1:46:11
  And when I'm in my heart and my integrity, she celebrates with
• 1:46:14
  me. We've brought 2 beautiful
• 1:46:16
  children, adult children now in the world.
• 1:46:19
  And you know the secret? Someone asked me the other day,
• 1:46:23
  what's your secret? And then I said, you know what?
• 1:46:25
  30 is devotion. Everything's going to change the
• 1:46:29
  bodies, the moods, the interests over time.
• 1:46:32
  But if you stay devoted to each other's growth and awakening,
• 1:46:37
  you know, I knew when I met her, she could take me deeper to God
• 1:46:40
  than I could go by myself. And she knew I could help her go
• 1:46:44
  deeper to God than if she could go by herself.
• 1:46:47
  And that has been the bond that's kept us strong.
• 1:46:50
  And even underneath all tension, when things are going crazy in
• 1:46:53
  the world, money, business crashing, children stuff, family
• 1:46:57
  stuff, health issues, you name it, we've always cleaved to
• 1:47:01
  coming back to love. And devotion has been the key.
• 1:47:04
  Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful.
• 1:47:07
  You know, I had this this hike this summer.
• 1:47:11
  We were in the Italian and Swiss Alps and I had these profound
• 1:47:14
  downloads on the hike, not, not psychedelic catalyst, just just
• 1:47:21
  source speaking through me, my soul speaking through me.
• 1:47:25
  And I realized that ultimately I had married the most important
• 1:47:30
  teacher I could possibly have. It sounds like we've both got
• 1:47:36
  extremely strong female energies in our life, our soul mates,
• 1:47:42
  which really are helping us grow.
• 1:47:44
  And I can definitely tell you I'm a very different man than I
• 1:47:48
  was at age 22 and ever. And I first started dating and
• 1:47:51
  got married at age 24. But I, I needed to marry a true
• 1:47:57
  equal. I needed to marry a true equal,
• 1:47:59
  someone who would really, really catalyze me to grow.
• 1:48:03
  And that that would be on the same level, you know, that that
• 1:48:11
  that harmony was really important.
• 1:48:14
  We're blessed. Yes, we are blessed.
• 1:48:16
  But I realize it's funny because here I am as a age 53 year old
• 1:48:19
  man. And I realized on that hike and
• 1:48:24
  then I went through very quickly and got to see all the moments
• 1:48:28
  of tension throughout any part of our marriage.
• 1:48:32
  And it was all when I rejected the lesson at the time because
• 1:48:37
  the ego don't. Tell anyone that wives you were
• 1:48:40
  right but didn't tell anyone. This is going out to millions of
• 1:48:43
  people, but don't tell anyway. Oh my gosh, we're going to have
• 1:48:45
  to cut this out. Hey, you know, I get humbled all
• 1:48:50
  the time, you know? So this is this is the house
• 1:48:53
  where. Humility lives.
• 1:48:55
  Goddess's job is, you know, to support the humbling of our ego
• 1:49:00
  and the rising of the Divine King within us.
• 1:49:04
  Yeah, the King of service. Yes, the swing of service.
• 1:49:08
  Yeah, I love that. Well, brother, I love this so
• 1:49:11
  much. You want to close this out with
• 1:49:12
  a meditation. Yes, let's do.
• 1:49:14
  Yeah, yeah, let's do that, Yeah. And please, everyone listening,
• 1:49:19
  watching, include yourself, join in arms and bring your whole
• 1:49:22
  family, all those you love into this field.
• 1:49:25
  And even, you know, let's upload all the ones we don't love as
• 1:49:28
  well. Let's bring them.
• 1:49:29
  Into the space for sure. Because let's, let's conquer
• 1:49:32
  love now in this moment. Yeah.
• 1:49:35
  So let's pull in all the things that are on love right now in
• 1:49:40
  our own life, personally, professionally, all the things
• 1:49:43
  we're scared of in the macro world of which there's so much
• 1:49:47
  to be concerned and fearful of, rightly so.
• 1:49:52
  And feeling all of that in our heart and soul start softening
• 1:49:58
  our belly, softening our hearts, and gentling our hearts and
• 1:50:05
  allowing a transmission of benevolence.
• 1:50:09
  Compassion to all the fear that's driving all the sickness,
• 1:50:14
  all the separation, all the war, all the pain in the planet.
• 1:50:19
  Let's offer it profound love to the transmission of compassion.
• 1:50:27
  Compassion for ourselves, compassion for our families,
• 1:50:33
  compassion for all the darkness, the suffering.
• 1:50:37
  And let the light in our heart continue to widen and brighten
• 1:50:43
  and expand further than our body, even further than the
• 1:50:47
  rooms we're in, further than the cities, states, countries we're
• 1:50:53
  in, so that our collective hearts engulf the world is 1.
• 1:50:57
  Now let's feel the love that transcends all barriers, all
• 1:51:05
  words, all frames, and rest open as the love that we are knowing,
• 1:51:14
  the love that we are, that we share, that we express today at
• 1:51:18
  a metaphysical level and with the next people that we sat or
• 1:51:23
  we sit next to or chat with. Let's be the conduit of Love's
• 1:51:27
  greatest gift, which is ourselves.
• 1:51:31
  We shall make it through all darkness.
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  We shall make it through all fear and love conquers all it
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  is. That's what we are.
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  Amen. Amen.
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  Beautiful, brother. This is amazing.
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  Yeah. Thank you so much.
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  It's my joy. Thanks so much, everybody, for
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  tuning in to another episode of Love Conquers Fear.
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  That was amazing. You really got to see Sachin's
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  heart and how much love he puts out in the world.
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  I hope you'll TuneIn to warriorsage.com and really
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  subscribe to all of his amazing transmissions and the beautiful
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  community that he's built. You saw how much it moved Katie
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  Brown and one of his partners lives here in Austin, so I'm
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  going to get to meet him soon. His name is Vince.
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  Stay tuned. I'm back in Austin.
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  The next episode I'm recording is with one of the most
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  important teachers in my life, actually.
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  He has written an amazing book that we're going to discuss.
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  And I'm hosting a dinner for him at our home with people coming
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  over to really learn from him, who have all read his book for
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  discussion. So you're going to get to see us
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  discuss that right before going into the dinner.
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  And stay tuned. Thank you again for all the
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  light you're sending my way. As you know, I'm doing this for
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  impact. I really care about humanity
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  making it. God loves us all.
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  Sources there to ultimately help us and here we are.
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  Love conquers fear. Thanks so much for the word.
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  We're really trying to put as much light out there as possible
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  and you can really help with that.
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  There's no ads here, I'm just self funding it and I would
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  appreciate your help. Thank you.