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Almost Famous OG: College Bound · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hi, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the almost famous OG podcast with me and
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  Speaker 1: my husband. We just went from Colorado to Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: and we decided to have a chat not at home,
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  Speaker 1: because why not.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know who were having this chat.
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  Speaker 3: So what are we supposed to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: We can talk about anything, really, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: my podcast, so but I think just life in general.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just give give the people a little glimpse into
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  Speaker 1: life lately and what's going on with us. So thanks
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  Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Sure I didn't have a choice, you did not, but
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  Speaker 2: you're anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually true. So we're here for the iHeart Radio
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  Speaker 1: music words. And I know I'm really excited, but we
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  Speaker 1: have a member of the family who is also probably
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  Speaker 1: way more excited than me, and that is our daughter Blakesley.
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  Speaker 1: She is so she's so excited, babe. We were in
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  Speaker 1: the car, so Blakesley and I for everybody listening, Blakesley
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  Speaker 1: and I flew out to Los Angeles last night and
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  Speaker 1: Ryan flewent today because he was working. And I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Blake's look up, who is performing or who's going to
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  Speaker 1: be there or whatever, and she looked up everybody and
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  Speaker 1: she was like and Kelsey Ballerini And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what that means? And she's like no,
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  Speaker 1: And I go, do you know who Kelsey Ballerina Ballerina
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  Speaker 1: is dating? And she was like no, And I go,
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  Speaker 1: do you know John B And She's like what outer ranks?
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  Speaker 1: You know how obsessed she has been with that show?
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  Speaker 1: She was freaking out that he might be there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is like for a teenage girl. So our daughter
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  Speaker 1: is fifteen, almost sixteen, almost sixteen. It's crazy. She turns
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  Speaker 1: sixteen in gosh, what is it like two weeks now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what today is somewhere around there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like two weeks away.
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  Speaker 1: That makes me happy and so sad at the same time. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so teenage girl dreams like this event. I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 1: for just because she is living out her best life dreams.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think she's really excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so fun. I wish that Max could have
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  Speaker 1: been here, but he's got some hockey obligations so he
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  Speaker 1: couldn't be here. But to walk a red carpet and
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  Speaker 1: get glammed, and you know, see people that she kind
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  Speaker 1: of idolizes like Taylor Swift maybe and oh gosh, Eilish,
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  Speaker 1: she was obsessed with Billie Eila Eilish, you know a
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  Speaker 1: few years back. Anyway, I'm really excited to be here.
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  Speaker 1: You're feeling okay, you're feeling good about it.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's not really I wouldn't go with I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited to be here, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's finn.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm actually more excited to see Blake Slee
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  Speaker 2: and you know, have this opportunity for her. Wait, like,
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  Speaker 2: we used to do this kind of stuff a lot
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  Speaker 2: and haven't for for a long time, especially since the
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  Speaker 2: kids have been old enough to kind of appreciate what
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  Speaker 2: it was and to be sort of into pop culture,
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  Speaker 2: and and for her to have this opportunity and you know,
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  Speaker 2: to get, like you said, do get to see the
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  Speaker 2: people that she really looks up to and listens to
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  Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff is pretty cool. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I don't think Max would have gotten the same
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  Speaker 2: experience out of it. He I think he's probably more
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  Speaker 2: like sort of hedges more in my direction when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to that sort of stuff, But it is it
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  Speaker 2: would be fun for him into music. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: just less into like the show.
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  Speaker 1: Totally, the red carpet stuff. Yeah, for sure, I agree. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll be fun. And I mean Kenny Chesney's
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  Speaker 1: performing like it's like a It's like, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: we've been to other award shows in the past, it's
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  Speaker 1: like a big concert.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of all the things that we used to do,
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  Speaker 2: I think the award shows were probably yeah, up there
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  Speaker 2: with with my favorite, just because of that. You get
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  Speaker 2: such a wide variety of performers, and you get to
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  Speaker 2: see people in person and see kind of sometimes get
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  Speaker 2: to meet him and see how they are and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and that's always kind of fun too.
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  Speaker 1: So Yeah, I'm glad you're here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm here too.
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  Speaker 1: So and then afterwards we talked about Blakesley turning sixteen, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it makes me sad just because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I saw someone someone, you know, my brain does
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  Speaker 1: not work that well these days people. So someone was
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  Speaker 1: talking about why would you be sad, like with your
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  Speaker 1: kids growing up, and I'm like, it's just like I
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  Speaker 1: miss the baby days with all with any milestone, it's
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  Speaker 1: just one more step for her, like leaving the nest.
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  Speaker 1: In my mind, so you know, it's it's a happy
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  Speaker 1: thing for her to turn sixteen, and I'm really excited
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  Speaker 1: for her because she's very excited to drive and have
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  Speaker 1: that independence. But it also like breaks my little mama's
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  Speaker 1: heart that she's getting older and closer to leaving me, not.
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  Speaker 3: You, she's just no, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully, I mean hopefully they'll both find their footing in
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  Speaker 2: life and be able to have successful, fun lives with
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  Speaker 2: families that we'll get to enjoy that phase of two.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think as the kids were growing up, I always thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think every little phase of life, I
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  Speaker 2: was always kind of like, I wish they could just
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  Speaker 2: stay in this phase of life and then they would
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  Speaker 2: progress to the next phase of life, and I would
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  Speaker 2: say the same thing and on and on and so
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  Speaker 2: I think that's going to continue to be the case.
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  Speaker 2: Where we're we'll just appreciate all of the all of
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  Speaker 2: the milestones and all of the steps, and and what
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  Speaker 2: will be really strange is if they're if they're both
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  Speaker 2: off in college, or like if our house is empty.
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  Speaker 3: I know that will be.
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  Speaker 2: An adjustment, but yeah, that's still a ways often. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that you know, having moments like this with Blakesley,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, when I got to go to North
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  Speaker 2: Dakota and watch Max play hockey and those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 2: Those are sort of the bigger things, but even just
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  Speaker 2: the day to day interactions and stuff, just trying to
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  Speaker 2: appreciate those more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's interesting because people always ask, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a superficial question these days, but just
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  Speaker 2: like what's new. I'll see, like I'll work with somebody
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  Speaker 2: I haven't worked with for a while or something, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll always ask what's new, And there's really not anything,
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  Speaker 2: you know, momentous or monumental or anything giant, but it's
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  Speaker 2: just a lot of little things in this phase of life.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to do a better job of appreciating because I
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  Speaker 2: do kind of see the sort of writing off into
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  Speaker 2: the sunset part of it. And you know, like fifty
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  Speaker 2: years old, you're like closer to one hundred than zero now,
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  Speaker 2: and that's not Sometimes that awakens something and you just say, like, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's make sure that we appreciate these days and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I like that you said closer to one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: That means you're thinking that a hundred will be your number.
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  Speaker 1: So that's good. Stick around for a while, please, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll make a hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I would want to live
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  Speaker 1: that old. Like, you know, if I'm in pain already.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine how I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Going to feel what I'm one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, just imagine this is totally off topic.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty fifty years ago. Yeh, so what is that nineteen
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  Speaker 2: seventy five, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, you're better in mass seventy well when
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  Speaker 1: we were born nineteen seventy four.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean that would be easy with figured
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  Speaker 2: it out, like like with the world, like it was
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  Speaker 2: so much different right, like barely there were I don't
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  Speaker 2: even think that those little Apple to e computers were
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  Speaker 2: out yet. There was no like it was all televisions
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  Speaker 2: were giant boxes with like ears sticking out like you said, telegraphs.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is so different. And then in another fifty years,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, who knows.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we will be one hundred years alone.
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  Speaker 1: We know, maybe the world will or.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the world that way we go, Yeah, we'll prefer
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  Speaker 3: to think of.
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  Speaker 1: It that's to be positive. Yes, uh huh, in hopes
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  Speaker 1: that we actually can become grandparents and enjoy that part
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  Speaker 1: of life too. No rush there by the way, Blake's lean, Max,
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening, they are, Yeah, So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I interrupted you and if you had more to
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  Speaker 1: that thought.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was just a brief like wonder if like
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  Speaker 2: you know what, because that will be well, let's just
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  Speaker 2: say when Max and blakes here are fifty years old
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  Speaker 2: and we're grandparents, hopefully, yeah, what will the world be
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  Speaker 2: like for our grandparents? Hopefully hopefully we as a human
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  Speaker 2: population figure it out and we can kind of start to,
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  Speaker 2: oh make things good, yeah for everybody, but know that
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  Speaker 2: they're bad now, but no better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, life is good. During this trip, we decide
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  Speaker 1: I decided that because Blakesley and I were going to
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  Speaker 1: be here, you have to go back to work, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but since Blakesley and I were going to be here,
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  Speaker 1: that we would go look at some colleges, which is
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  Speaker 1: a whole other thing, like just envisioning her being in college,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or and not necessarily college, just being on
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  Speaker 1: her own, you know, not living in our home, which
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  Speaker 1: she's always welcome to come back to as is Max.
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  Speaker 1: But I it's it's kind of a little shock to
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  Speaker 1: the system. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, trying to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of it and really enjoy it. Rented a
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  Speaker 1: convertible because when we were in LA the last time
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  Speaker 1: and Blakesley and I rented a convertible, it was I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a core memory, you know, like just blasting
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  Speaker 1: the music and down, you know. I don't think we
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  Speaker 1: were on the PCH but just cruising around LA. So
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  Speaker 1: we did that again, and we're going to go visit
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  Speaker 1: some colleges. I wish you could be there, But it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a little shock to the system, and it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of bittersweet, like it'll be exciting to share that with her,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time thinking about my baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully they can figure out sort of what
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  Speaker 2: they want to do, which I think is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a weird thing to ask a sixteen year old or
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea what I wanted to do when
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  Speaker 2: I was seventeen years old, And I'm not sure you're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to know, unless like there are those rare people
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  Speaker 2: who like some of them will prop I see today
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  Speaker 2: that just like knew they wanted to be musicians, and
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  Speaker 2: so that's what they just strove for their entire lives.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the majority of people are still on
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  Speaker 2: a exploratory mission as they graduate high school and go
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  Speaker 2: to college, and you know, deciding on which college to
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  Speaker 2: go to is part of that. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: Blakesley tends to to want to go somewhere more.
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  Speaker 3: Beachy, like the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: I could I couldn't imagine Max wanting anything to do
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  Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles area, but he did.
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  Speaker 1: Say at home, because we were talking like what we
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  Speaker 1: were going to do, and he said, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think California is you know for me. Actually I think
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  Speaker 1: you were in the kitchen when we said that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but I think you guys will have a
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  Speaker 2: good time and hopefully she'll see something at one of
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  Speaker 2: these places that that sort of sparks her interest and
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  Speaker 2: at least gets her thinking in that direction. It's hard,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Like with the move to Denver, I think
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  Speaker 2: that was part like partly intentional as a way to
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  Speaker 2: sort of start to build a foundation for our kids
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  Speaker 2: so that they could we could do as much as
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  Speaker 2: we could to set them up to be successful adults.
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  Speaker 2: This is just a continuation of that. That's the That's
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  Speaker 2: definitely the phase of life that I feel like I'm in,
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  Speaker 2: that we're in is it's more it's less a selfish phase,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, less of these types of my heart
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  Speaker 2: radio events and.
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  Speaker 3: That sort of stuff that just you and I go to.
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  Speaker 2: That we're incorporating our kids into our lives and we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to build them as best we can and prepare
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  Speaker 2: them as best we can for for that time when
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  Speaker 2: they do step out the door, leave the nest, and
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, then you can kind of circle
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  Speaker 2: back and we can, you know, refocus our attention in
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  Speaker 2: other places.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully hopefully we will give it.
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  Speaker 2: You have given them enough to be self sustaining.
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  Speaker 3: But but like you said.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think parenting ever ends. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: mean clearly, we live super close to my parents, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like my mom and dad are always helping
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  Speaker 2: out and checking.
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  Speaker 3: Up on us.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, my mom always says that she just
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  Speaker 2: never never stops worrying about me or my brother. And
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  Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter what period of life you're in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're always gonna love and care for and
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  Speaker 2: want the best for your kids.
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  Speaker 1: Always I recently, I don't know if I told you this,
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  Speaker 1: but so you know how they're always on Snapchat. I've decided,
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  Speaker 1: like they snap their friends constantly, yeah, or boyfriends or
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  Speaker 1: girlfriends or whatever, and I'm like, I need to do
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  Speaker 1: that with them so that they'll like so we can
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  Speaker 1: continue this interaction. So maybe you don't, I know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have it on your phone, but maybe you set
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  Speaker 1: up an account so that like just just even snapping
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  Speaker 1: like pictures. That's kind of like so my mom and
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  Speaker 1: I as you know, but you know, people listening. In
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: order for me to stay connected to my mom who's
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: in Indiana, we like send each other. We play wordle
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  Speaker 1: every morning, you know, and we send each other like
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  Speaker 1: our results from Mortal. Just I need to know that
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  Speaker 1: she's okay, Like every morning. I want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that she's okay. She lives alone, you know, I want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure she's okay. And I'm feeling that way
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  Speaker 1: about the kids, Like I want to create some kind
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  Speaker 1: of habitual thing where we stay connected. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if there's something that you would want to do too,
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  Speaker 1: or if you want to join me in the snapchat thing, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I guess I.
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  Speaker 1: Know you hate it, and I don't hate it.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know that I need another thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, true, but none of us do. None of us do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard enough to just check my regular text
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  Speaker 2: emails that I have, like now I looked at so
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  Speaker 2: I know, adding another form of communication isn't.
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  Speaker 3: True top priority.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, and plus, you know, I think there are
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  Speaker 2: certain things that are just theirs, you know. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think Chat's kind of theirs that was developed for more
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  Speaker 2: of their generation than ours. And so yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: we we got married. I think it was like my.
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  Speaker 1: Space for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And now there's no MySpace.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait, what was it?
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  Speaker 3: It was?
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  Speaker 1: Well Twitter had had Twitter. No, Twitter hadn't even started.
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  Speaker 2: It was MySpace and chat rooms.
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  Speaker 3: And stuff, but the message boards right, there was nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Really, there's no Twitter, no Instagram, no Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: No, none of that. No, those kids weren't even in
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  Speaker 1: college yet. Those Facebook guys, they were not They were
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  Speaker 1: still in the moon. No. Maybe I know that this
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is a question that we always get asked, but I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted you to give everyone kind of an update
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  Speaker 1: on how you're.
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  Speaker 2: Feeling, like an actual update or just what I tell.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody, an actual update. Would be lovely fine.
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  Speaker 3: I feel fine. I feel fine basically.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that the actual update, because that's what you
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I think. I think there's just a new definition of
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  Speaker 2: fine that isn't maybe as as like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the word would be, the descriptive word like, it's
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  Speaker 2: not as great as maybe fine was ten years ago.
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  Speaker 2: But there's nothing like in my life that's preventing me
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  Speaker 2: from doing really anything that I want to do in.
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  Speaker 1: My life because you don't let it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe, I think, and I think honestly, I think
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  Speaker 2: age plays a large factor into a lot of decisions now.
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  Speaker 2: It's less so than any kind of or more so
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  Speaker 2: than any kind of health concerns or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a tough adjustment when mentally you
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  Speaker 2: want to be in or feel like you're in one place,
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  Speaker 2: and then physically sometimes you're reminded that you're not in
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  Speaker 2: that same place, and so just trying to find a
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  Speaker 2: balance there and still live a productive, fun, enjoyable life
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  Speaker 2: is the challenge that I face.
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  Speaker 3: But certainly a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a lot better than I was four years ago,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, but probably not.
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  Speaker 3: Fourteen years ago, but I was thirty six.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I think that's all of us.
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  Speaker 3: It is what it is like.
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  Speaker 2: That question is hard to answer, And I think the
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  Speaker 2: hardest part about that is when people ask me what
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  Speaker 2: they can do when they're not feeling good, and when
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  Speaker 2: they understand kind of what I went through health wise,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: which is I'm assuming what you were referring to, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: they're also going through something similar, And the hardest part
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: for me is to say that I feel fine, but
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: not really be able to explain how to find that
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: for them, because I think it's such a personal journey
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and effort, and a lot of it just depends on
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: what you're willing to go through and what works for
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you and what like. It's a very complicated subject, I think,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and I really feel for people that are suffering through
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: things like chronic illnesses and things like that that there
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: really isn't a lot of attention given to or there's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: not a lot of remedies offered, and so you're just
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, throwing darts and hoping that some
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: of them happen to hit and and I think for
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: luckily for me, several of them have hit and that's
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: reduced the impact that's had on me personally. Unfortunately, I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: don't know how to translate that for everybody, And so
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that's that's probably the biggest frustration for me, is just
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: now the understanding of what that feels like and what
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: people are going through and how frustrating and debilitating that
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: can be.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: And then to.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Top it all off, to not have any real legitimate hope.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can always have hope, but there's just
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's hard to find it when you you just
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: can't see alight at the end of the tunnel.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and you feel like that. Yeah, And I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: think what I feel like a lot of people don't
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: understand is that lime, for whatever reason, is different for everybody.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So like you know, you say, oh, well I have
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: a cold, so I'm coughing and I'm sneezing, and you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I've got congestion. That's kind of across the board what
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: people experience, no matter your national or gender or you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And lime is different for everyone
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: because it attacked whatever wherever it's attacking in your body,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that's what your symptoms are going to show, right, So
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it's different for everybody. And I think The hard thing
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is that you know your path. Your your path with
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: lime disease has been it's all individual. It's very very personal, personalized.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I don't what's the word, do you know what I mean? Like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's unique to everybody. And I think that's really
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: hard because a lot of people ask you for you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: your help in like how you've found some success in
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: feeling better. And it's hard because I feel like everyone
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that you talk to who has dealt with lime has
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a different path. So it's not like you can't take
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: this one medicine and find a cure. I don't know.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just not very much known about it, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I think it can bring out other conditions and things
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: like that that you have to deal with and so
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: but anyways, I don't want to go down like a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Debbie Downer path life. Life for me is great and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I think life in general is great, and so hopefully,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: hopefully that could be the message is that there is
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: like I can be an example of someone who has
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: dealt with it and has come out the other end
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: for the most part, and I probably will always be
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: dealing with some component of it, but it definitely doesn't
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: impact me in any negative sort of way. I'm able
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to come here, I'm able to work, I'm able to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: enjoy the kids, like you know, take the dog for
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: walks and like like really doing just about everything I've
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: always done.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: So totally so yeah it's not.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is hope.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: There is there.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: For our little chat. Not that I don't talk to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you every single day, so thanks for listening. Everybody, keep
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: tuning in