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Investing in Roaring Kitty | Gamium SocialFi CEO Interview · The Paul Barron Crypto Show

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  All right, Today we're going to be diving into a project overview, and
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  it's one that I think is relevant with what's happening in the markets, both
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  from a standpoint of what and where Web three is going, but also just
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  in general of how meme tokens have really kind of taken a front and center
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  stage. It's going to be a go one. My name is Paul Barre,
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  Welcome back in the tech path. Joining me today is mister Alberto Rosas,
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  who is coming in as the co CEO of Gamium. Great to have
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  you, Great to meet you. Pull Yeah, pretty exciting to be here.
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  So Alberto, let's get into a little bit about Gamium in general.
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  Give us a breakdown for some people maybe are notare aware of Gamium as a
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  social fi platform. Give us a rundown of what you guys are up to.
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  Totally. Yeah, so gaming probably right now is the second best social
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  fi platform on the Web three ecosystem. So pretty much, we have a
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  social flight platform where you can just to invest and buy creator tokens or what
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  we call metaal social tokens that we're going to explain a little bit more later.
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  The idea is that you can just buy some creative tokens and unlock some
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  utility with that. Uh. It is very different the way that free in
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  Tech or arena does it, because we have different economies, we have different
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  utility. So it's pretty much we saw the rise of social fire and we
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  and we ask ourselves, how can we do this free in tech and other
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  platform way better? So with UH, we try we try to do it
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  with the gaming. At the end, we're just giving UH the opportunity to
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  invest in any creator and unlock utility with that creator once we invest it with
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  better teconomics, with better social utility, everything. So tokenomics utility. Is
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  there anything specific around the features of what you guys are doing versus say a
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  front tech or some of the the social vid platforms. Yes, so Free
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  in Tech, as you may know, they have a key system. Okay,
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  so you buy keys and once you have one key, you unlock some
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  utility. You can chat with the creator, and you can do certain stuff.
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  You can see the field as well, So this is hopeful that works.
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  So one of the things that I noticed is that like if you have
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  keys, first of all, you are limit limiting a lot the access of
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  this creator because let's say one key cost one filum, So only the people
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  who has one filum who are able to invest one filum on that cretor they
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  can access the social utility of that crator let's say. Okay, so yeah,
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  so it is very restrictive on the way the teconomics are done. And
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  it is also they are not incentivizing the holding of some specific creative token.
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  The only incentive is speculation to imagine the token is going to go up in
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  price. So pretty much the first difference is regarding the toeconomics aspect because instead
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  of having keys, first of all, our tokens are early twenty tokens,
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  so they are just normal tokens deployed on BC in this case, and you
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  can invest on this Earth twenty token. So in doing that, we allow
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  like anyone to buy the funjible amount that they want. Pretty much, if
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  they want to invest just five dollars on the creator or they want to invest
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  five hundred, they can do it. So it is more accessible, let's
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  say. And also the incentives of economic incentive of the creator and the people
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  who buy these tokens are more aligned because, for instance, every transaction fee
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  that happens, there is a fee that goes to the crator. There is
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  also a fee that goes to the best holders of the of the creator,
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  you know. So the incentital line if you if you trust really the work
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  of a creator, or do you believe he's going to do well and he's
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  going to generate a lot of demand and a lot of transactions. Let's say
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  you can earn a fee as a as a user, but also as a
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  creator, you are incentivized to keep utility to your token because every time,
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  every time there is a transaction on your talking and everything, you earn zero
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  point five actually is a one point five a percent of fee. So the
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  creator is also very incentivized to generate a lot of traction to your talken.
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  So this is the first difference which is on the toconomic site that it is
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  more accessible and we incentivize the creator and the user to really hold this token
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  and trade it just going to aspect you to so they go and go and
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  pull. Yeah, I was just going to talk. I want to learn
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  a little bit about the msts, you know, the metaverse social token itself.
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  What really makes this unique because obviously it's an e RC twenty token.
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  You guys are running on the B and B chain what makes this you unique?
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  Is it in comparison to say other you know tokens that are out there.
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  Yeah, so the tokeenomics are very special in the way the fees are
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  distributed and the incentives of both the creator and the and the user. This
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  is also a fair lunch So the MSTR metaver social doken that's that's the real
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  name. This is a fair lunch model. So we directly deployed overs twenty
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  and we add the liquidity on niswab P three directly on BnB chain, so
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  everything is fair. You know, you can just wait someone to launch a
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  togain and buy it like normal price, no vcs, no pre sells nothing,
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  so it's more accessible. It's more fair as well. And also the
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  different on the social utility side, which I think is very important. We
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  did a study of what socialty does cren tech and other kind of platform have.
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  You know what we realize we don't believe to chat itself, to chat
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  with creator if you hold the key or something like that is something very you
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  know that that is going to go long term. You know, I don't
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  believe people is using it too much on frantic anyway, So we really ask
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  ourselves Okay, how can we improve that? And we have a lot of
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  ideas, but our first thing, because gaming was born like two years and
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  a half ago as a metaverse project, and we had a lot of great
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  development on the metal site, so we did, okay, what if you
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  can give social utility on the metaverse for the holders. So if you are
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  molder of an MST, you can even interact immersively on the metaverse with your
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  creator. You can go to the creator home that we call and you can
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  interact voice chat and you can do you can even transfer tokens and by creator
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  talking inside the three D experience, so it's a more imssive experience. I
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  want to say that that we are still not seeing a lot of traction on
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  the meta site, which is something normal because the market is not created yet.
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  But I believe, I believe we're going to have some traction there and
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  as we have other kind of other kind of social degory that we're going to
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  unlock on the on the road map. So so yeah, we want we
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  want to give a lot of social ability and incentivice a lot the holdings of
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  the stugans. I was looking at the twenty four our top five gainers that
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  you guys have had obviously Ryan Kerry leading the way there with what's happening with
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  Game Stop and AMC. Likelihood, when you look at that and you kind
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  of compare this to other creators, how big has the uptake been for you
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  guys of just in general bringing on you know, people into the platform and
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  growing by itself. Yeah, we believe. Okay, there is a transition
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  that we are seeing the last years that it is transitioning from to attention economy.
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  Okay, this is something that we notice. We saw that with the
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  GameStop and and all of this money, and we are seeing down crypto every
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  day with the memic coins and all these kinds of things. For instance,
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  if Trump talks about crypto, then the Trump med coins are going up.
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  You know. If someone is fighting on a boxing match and it wants,
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  the price of the memicans related to that person goes up. You know,
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  So do this a lot of interest in investing in attention economy. So we
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  saw that and just we have, I believe, created the perfect platform for
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  it. Okay, if you want to invest on the Rolling Kitty, you
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  can just launch their token or just invest in in them, you know.
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  And the good thing is that if rolling Code, Rolling Kitty just connect to
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  the platform, he can claim his creator fees. He can just claim his
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  part of supply of the talken and he kind of start creating value for the
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  talken. You know, so really like you're really investing on the real creator.
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  You know, you are not investing on a memic coin or whatever.
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  You're really really investing on that creator. So it's something very special that we
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  believe. The wall is heating too. You know, this kind of attention
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  economy, and I think we have the perfect platform for it. We're going
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  to improve it for sure, but right now I think we are the best
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  platform for the attention economy and social BI. Explain a little bit about your
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  partners because I was looking at your partner page here You've got Meta, Telefonica
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  or the two that I'm interested in. Talk to me a little bit at
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  how those partnerships have construct been constructed. How is this going to benefit what
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  you guys are doing a game. So Telefonica is not also a partner but
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  also an investor from our company since the last year and a half. So
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  they are from Spain as well. We are a team. We have the
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  office here in Barcelona, so we are very close and we are collaborating a
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  lot of things with Telefonica on the identity side, on the metaals and so
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  on, So a lot of collaboration happening there and with Meta specifically, we
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  did some collaboration last year with the Meta item, so we develop a few
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  things related to some AA models for them, you know, using them and
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  so on, and so we are very big on AI as well. We
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  have a lot of technical expertise and with some development with with Meta and Telephonica
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  also well with Orange and other big companies that we are collaborating with. Yeah,
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  we are just partnering with them and exploring different different areas on the identity
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  side, on the meta side, on the AI side even so we are
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  actually we are very active. We are very good technically, so we are
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  high tech people, especially our cosios Alexandro and I. We are was working
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  on Silicon Ballet, so we have a lot of experience on the tech side
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  and we are just finding a lot of synergy with these big companies. I'm
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  looking at gaming world and explain to me a little bit about world map and
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  the experiences that are involved within this. How does this play into it?
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  So we have a size plain before. We have the Creator Home, which
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  is the place of the Creator. You can access it if you have the
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  MSDS of the Creator, the talken of the Creator. And also we have
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  public experiences which are in a map. Okay we have it on a map,
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  but you can access it. They are isolated at the end, so
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  you can go access experience and just interact with all the rest of the people.
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  You don't need a specific MST tokens in this sched you need GMM tokens
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  to access it, which are the native talken of Gamum and you can access
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  and the same way you can interact immersively with the Creator. You can not
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  only with the Creator, with the other users. You can transfer talking to
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  them, you can invest in them, you can talk with them, you
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  can do We have also some games develop inside the metad So it's really a
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  way to end turn the people, you know, like you want to interact
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  on this attention economy that we have created. You can go inside experience and
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  just interact with other people like you. You know, so pretty much like
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  it's a verynovative thing. You know, it's combining the metaphorse, social fide,
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  the emersive experience. You have to plan for you guys, to expand
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  that a bit. I know, I notice that, you know, there's
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  a lot. It seems like there's some opportunity here in terms of the map
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  itself of being able to create more experiences. Is that something that's in the
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  roadmap exactly? Actually, we have developed since two years and a half ago
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  we started the company. We have developed a complete rockmap on the metaborse,
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  so we have these kind of experiences. We have the creator home to con
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  gated things, interactions, investment, transfer money, real money inside that.
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  We have a lot of nice future inside the metabs. And one of the
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  things that we are doing right now is just we have a land based model,
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  okay like typical samdbox, the Central and and so on, where you
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  can buy lands and you can create experience with a new code tool and just
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  publish it online and anyone can access your experience three D okay kind of a
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  We like to call it like a YouTube of through the experience, because you
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  can easily create a new through the experience, publish it and everyone can accesit,
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  you know. So we are working on integrating that on the platform so
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  the people even can can just create an experience and publish it and have the
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  right incentive to do it as well. So everything is around the economic incentives
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  and so on. But we are working on that on the mataters and also
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  another social utility more on the trudy side. Yeah, okay, So I
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  mean this seems like I like the angle on this from the attention economy side.
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  This is something that you know, people talk about quite a bit in
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  terms of especially on influencers and what we're seeing in terms of marketing in general,
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  because this kind of opens up a different framework for what you guys are
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  doing. There. Do you see in the idea of creators potentially brands or
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  other companies that are starting to influence markets potentially going in this direction as well?
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  What would the market look like for gaming in the future. Something that
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  we really want to do, okay is open more the platform. That that
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  means Right now, we are focusing on Web three, that's the idea.
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  We have even gone into wallet, so only Web three native people can go
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  and interag with the platform. But our idea is to open it, open
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  it more so, integrating social logging, integrating the non custyal wallet. After
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  the social logging implement on drum method by with ebit cards. So we have
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  a lot of ideas because we really believe that this kind of platform in the
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  future ishibit too. Okay. I want to invest in one person because he's
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  going to be a great athlete, or he's going to be a great artist,
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  or maybe he has an important event and and and he's going to do
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  one thing specifically. So we want to be the platform to go to,
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  platform to invest on creator. That's that's that's our objective, okay, and
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  where we are headed and unlock social idility with that, okay. So so
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  pretty much that's what we are going to do, and we're going to execute,
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  and we're going to execute actually pretty fast, I believe. Yeah,
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  I believe we're working. We're going to be the fastest. Well that's the
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  key man right now. Speed is very important, especially the run as we
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  start to see a lot more action going going forward. I was looking at
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  your white paper. You guys are running on both the you know, B
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  and B on the BEP twenty and the e r C twenty contracts right now,
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  but you also have staking. Your tokenomics are pretty decent. I was
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  looking at those in terms of the amount of deployment that you, guys,
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  are already in place, a party in place, a party in place,
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  a party in place, a party in place, a party in place,
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  a party in place, a party in place, a party in place,
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  a party in place. Keep realtility to the token. Okay, and we
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  don't like the idea of Yeah, you can go with GMM and buy some
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  three D objects inside the three D experience for instad Okay, guys for instad
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  Okay. Guy dams for instad Okay, gues idioms for instad Okay, does
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  idioms for instad o Gay does idioms for instad Gay does idioms for instad Gay
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  does idioms for instad o gay does generate the demount of the product. Let's
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  make the people love your product, future product. And we have more than
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  fifty five thousand users around three weeks, okay, so people are really using
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  our product. We have more than five thousand delective users. So we are
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  we are we are new. We are new. We are new. We
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  are new. We are new. We are earning more utility for the moment.
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  Like a utility we have, you can access GMM. You can access
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  experiences only with you have certain holdings of GMM. So talking gated experiences.
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  We have also some we have also some we have also some we have also
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  some we have also some we have also some we have also some. We
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  have also some real utility to e GM. That means, for instance,
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  you can start buying subscriptions with GMM, and once you have a subscription,
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  you have certain benefit with the creator for instance, on this kind of utility
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  that we know if we do it, people are going to use it,
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  you know, because if we just put like a yeah, you can buy
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  a creative talking with GMM, this is not a real utility because what you
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  are doing is worsen the user experience, so you're going to earn less revenue
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  and GMM is not going to have utility at the end. So you have
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  to put the right incentive in the right place in the right moment, I
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  believe, and we have been always like this, who have been developing a
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  lot, and it has been always our mentality to go as slow but the
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  correct steps. Yeah, well it's a good strategy, I think when when
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  you kind of compare this, especially when you look at the markets, and
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  I guess that's my next question, Alberto, is when you look at the
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  markets, especially around crypto natives. People that are out here trading mime coins,
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  they're very curious about what's happening, especially on things like what we're talking
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  about, which is more attention based trading. Do you see this more for
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  the cryptodigions and kind of the crypto natives or is this something that you're starting
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  to see mainstream starting to maybe try things out, test this out. What
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  have you guys think so far? Yeah? Right now? Like the way
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  the platform is designed is especially for crypto natives, okay, Like the connect
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  wallet thing is just crypt native. Like we don't bother authentication option for the
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  moment, but we believe, okay that if the user experience is good enough,
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  if you have a social log in, the user is spiking with a
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  debit card, you know that he's not noticing at the end that he's interacting
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  with blockchain. I believe if we achieve that that we're going to do it,
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  then is a mainstream platform that you can use to go and buy any
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  kind of creator token, unlock some modility with that. I believe we can
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  achieve it. It's only a matter of user experience. But I believe the
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  wall is killing too. Whilst that not only the crypto people like everything is
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  around attention as status. You know, everything is around that right now.
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  So so I believe if you usually experience is good enough, we can we
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  can increase the target of our of our platform for sure. That'll be one
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  to watch, all right, So let's talk about n f T s.
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  I want before we get to roadmap here, I want to talk about n
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  f TS and in general air drops. How would that apply into what you
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  guys are doing with Gamium. So as n f TS, we only have
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  lands, okay, NFTs, so you can buy lands which you can use
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  to deploy your experiences on the future directly on the on the map that we
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  saw before. And as an air drop, we have an active campaign for
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  eddro points okay that you can go interact and start accumulating editor points. And
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  the idea with that is to deliver a big air drop of either the gym
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  and token, either some creator tokens including the basket as well for the fee
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  generated. We're still discussing which kind of airdrop do we want to do,
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  but the idea is that this other point is going to be for an end
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  roup and and we want to be big and we want to be fair for
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  everyone. Yeah, for sure. As far as the roadmap over the next
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  say twelve months, a lot happening right now Web three most likely we're going
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  to see a pretty aggressive market start to inch forward here, especially in the
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  fall and over the winter. What are your thoughts on where you guys are
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  going to be What are the next big achievements for you? So right now
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  on the platform side of gaming, we are just delivering new futures and improving
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  what we have every week. So every week if you follow us, we
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  are delivering new things. And the idea is to have the perfect platform for
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  the Web three native at the beginning. Then having all this adoption that we
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  are having now, keep increasing it a good product, and then we're going
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  to have more chains integrated. We're going to go probably on Base, We're
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  going to go maybe on Salana, going to go more or more different chains,
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  you know, to give our product to more exposure to different communities on
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  the website. And then our objective is going to be to make the user
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  experience way better, not only for cryptonative for everyone, So including the social
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  log in, including probably instead of just ext and Twitter accounts, include Instagram
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  accounts, TikTok, accounts, so you can really invest invest in any kind
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  of profile. You know, you can invest on YouTube streamers, you can
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  invest on tweets, you can invest on anyone with a good using experience.
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  With that go to market strategy, with a good distribution, we can arrive
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  two different targets. And pretty much this is the placebook for the next year.
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  Okay, also adding new social utility as well. We are looking for
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  a platform like Patreon. We are looking for for really social creator platform that
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  really works on the webs site and taking the best ideas from it. So
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  the idea is just to improve the platform, open it more for more target
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  you know, more chains, and then adding more sociallytivity. This is pretty
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  much an listen. It's gonna be one to listen. It's gonna be one
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  to listen. It's gonna be one listen. It's gonna be one listen.
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  It's gonna be one listen. It's gonna be one listen. It's gonna be
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  one to grow over the last couple of years. And now to your point,
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  this attention cycle that seems to be adapting both from a social media standpoint,
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  but also from crypto, which seems to be intertwined right now, So
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  we're gonna be watching this very closely. We're gonna be watching this very closely.
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  We're gonna be watching this very closely. We're gonna be watching this very
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  closely. We're gonna be watching this very closely. We're gonna be watching this
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