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56. TikTok’s corrosive effect on mental health · Radically Genuine

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• 5:39
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• 5:39
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• 5:41
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• 5:43
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• 5:43
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• 5:46
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• 5:47
  [kel]: so when you start hitting the hard button it creates this kind of like algorithm
• 5:50
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• 5:51
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• 5:51
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• 5:52
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• 5:52
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• 5:52
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• 5:52
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• 5:54
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• 5:55
  [kel]: it's the epitome
• 5:56
  [roger_mcfillin]: pity
• 5:56
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• 5:59
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• 5:59
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• 5:59
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• 5:59
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• 5:59
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• 6:01
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• 6:01
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• 6:01
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• 6:02
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• 6:02
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• 6:02
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• 6:03
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• 6:08
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• 6:09
  [kel]: it's pretty addictive
• 6:10
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• 6:11
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• 6:12
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• 6:12
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• 6:13
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• 6:18
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• 7:26
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  [kel]: what
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  [kel]: what
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• 10:06
  [kel]: some
• 10:06
  [roger_mcfillin]: some
• 10:06
  [kel]: of these videos so we'll have to pop them up and just see where this
• 10:10
  [kel]: conversation can can we pop one up now just for an example you send a
• 10:14
  [kel]: few but there might be a better one some only have like music beds which
• 10:18
  [kel]: is just try to i try to filter those out so like this one might
• 10:22
  [kel]: be yeahheckthat one out queen te terret on tik tok there's five signs are probably
• 10:30
  [kel]: autistic number one you miss or don't understand when people are being sarcastic or passive
• 10:36
  [kel]: aggressive or hinting towards something because you always just plainly say what you mean and
• 10:40
  [kel]: you act everyone else too number two you listen to music everywhere you go or
• 10:45
  [kel]: always have headphones and otherwise you're too over stimulated or overwhelmed by the people and
• 10:51
  [kel]: the noises it's life to have to bring headphones number three you always mirror people's
• 10:57
  [kel]: behavior back to them even when you don't want to so if you're like oh
• 11:02
  [kel]: i'm not in competition with this person or i'm not intentionally being an ass hole
• 11:06
  [kel]: by my so expressions are expressing that is because you're mirroring how they're acting um
• 11:12
  [kel]: number four you always spend time in the dark naturalizing is okay but you get
• 11:17
  [kel]: over stimulated by light and number five you're always told you're a good listener because
• 11:23
  [kel]: your mirror people's actions back to them roger you're a good listener and you tend
• 11:32
  [kel]: to spend a lot of time in the dark it's these completely made up kind
• 11:38
  [kel]: of symptoms are any of those actual i don't know that one was for autism
• 11:45
  [kel]: but are any of those at all symptoms of what would traditionally be autismis someone
• 11:51
  [kel]: just opening up up a diagnostic manual and just pulling out a couple of things
• 11:55
  [kel]: and reading them i mean what they're doing is they're taking what could be a
• 12:02
  [kel]: potential sign of autism and turning it in to something that everyone would experience from
• 12:08
  [kel]: time to time like first of all no you know putting on headphones as a
• 12:12
  [kel]: way of blocking out the world is not a sign of autism in fact i
• 12:17
  [kel]: remember back in two thousand nine i was on the campus of temple university in
• 12:22
  [kel]: philadelphia pennsylvania and it was like the first time i was back in like an
• 12:26
  [kel]: undergrad campus because i went to philadelphia college of austiopathic medicine which was graduate school
• 12:32
  [kel]: medical school and i think when i was walking on campus seventy five per cent
• 12:37
  [kel]: at that time of um students walking around would have some form of a headphone
• 12:45
  [kel]: in and that was like new for me like oh this is new this never
• 12:50
  [kel]: happened before so it's quite common for people to pop in headphones air pods and
• 12:57
  [kel]: you know i was up in new york city not too long ago you know
• 13:00
  [kel]: most people are going through the city in their day and maybe they're listening to
• 13:02
  [kel]: podcasts the radically genuine podcasts or other no doubt so if you're young and you're
• 13:09
  [kel]: vulnerable and you're impressionable you're seeking out some way to define yourself or even try
• 13:15
  [kel]: to understand yourself and this is what's challenging they believe or their condition to believe
• 13:22
  [kel]: that there's something wrong with them and we think about adolescent development it's quite normal
• 13:30
  [kel]: for you to question who you are and what you're experiencing is normal in comparison
• 13:35
  [kel]: to others now this is like people can become hyper sensitive to this because it's
• 13:41
  [kel]: in your face all the time in that introspection and kind of judging your internal
• 13:46
  [kel]: experience as if it's some sort of a disorder that's concerning right and this is
• 13:51
  [kel]: why we're having these rise in these diagnoses and this identification with mental illness and
• 13:57
  [kel]: going into mental health out patient practices now i think the saviclinician can understand when
• 14:05
  [kel]: somebody's just repeating symptoms from a book um but i don't think a lot of
• 14:12
  [kel]: our clinicians specially young clinicians really trained at a really high level and are sophisticated
• 14:20
  [kel]: enough be able to use deductive reasoning and clinical questioning to be able to shift
• 14:27
  [kel]: conversations back to get information and test things out we are in this health care
• 14:33
  [kel]: world where people are just coming in quickly and say i'm experiencing this i'm experiencing
• 14:37
  [kel]: this i'm experiencing that and you're you're hit with a diagnosis some sort of treatment
• 14:42
  [kel]: plan and trying to move forward so this is the danger but aren't a lot
• 14:45
  [kel]: of young doctors and antherapists aren't they trained to be affirm good point really good
• 14:56
  [kel]: point um yeah that's affirmative kind of care model where anyone who comes in to
• 15:03
  [kel]: see you you are validating and infirming what they're experiencing as ways one of building
• 15:10
  [kel]: a relationship and as a way of decreasing kind of self judgment accepting what the
• 15:16
  [kel]: and is telling you is as truth and kind of valuing that person in front
• 15:20
  [kel]: of you to apply that one hundred per cent of the time without considering other
• 15:27
  [kel]: potential functions or hypotheses to what might be happening is really dangerous that's actually taking
• 15:32
  [kel]: away the clinician's ability to critically evaluate and think and i posted something on around
• 15:41
  [kel]: this on twitter months ago back when we were talking about social contagion effect and
• 15:47
  [kel]: i had a psychiatrist create ironically a tik tok video about me you know i
• 15:54
  [kel]: remember i wish i could have bought that up and it's like this idea i
• 15:59
  [kel]: am completely invalidating somebody's experience by bringing up these cultural phenomenons and i don't think
• 16:07
  [kel]: that you can work in the mental health field unless you are real attentive to
• 16:12
  [kel]: what is happening in your culture around you and that was scary for me that
• 16:18
  [kel]: a child psychiatrist would accept at face value ver billy what a child would kind
• 16:26
  [kel]: of tell you about what they're experiencing now first and foremost what's really important i
• 16:31
  [kel]: feel like we've gone away from this i was trained as a clinical psychologist i
• 16:37
  [kel]: was trained that you must get multiple reports from multiple environments to be able to
• 16:43
  [kel]: confirm diagnosis meaning you know i'm going to get what the what the teen ager
• 16:49
  [kel]: or the kid is presenting with what i'm observing what they're reporting but then i
• 16:54
  [kel]: want to test that out what's the school reporting as their parents reporting let me
• 17:01
  [kel]: get some other data and information to try to create a case conceptualization what about
• 17:07
  [kel]: when it's a young adult young adult how do you how do you go about
• 17:12
  [kel]: getting other points of view other stories or whatever workplace environment that kind of stuff
• 17:19
  [kel]: no i wouldn't say workplace environment tends to be family so if if it's an
• 17:23
  [kel]: adult it could be a spouse if you're a young adult or a teen age
• 17:27
  [kel]: obviously it's the parents and if they're in school you just ask for a release
• 17:33
  [kel]: maybe talk to a school council or so you have to get permission from your
• 17:36
  [kel]: client you do okay and that's just you know that's kind of standard also with
• 17:42
  [kel]: like sochiatry or a medical professional so it's really important that you are coordinating care
• 17:50
  [kel]: i never get contacted these psychiatrists are medical professionals when i'm working with a young
• 17:56
  [kel]: person or a teen ager and it's part of the systemic problem that exists in
• 18:00
  [kel]: our in our health care system i saw a recent study regarding ah our primary
• 18:09
  [kel]: care you know what the average time a doctor will spend with somebody in primary
• 18:14
  [kel]: care six minutes close eight minutes you're talking about a health care system that's that's
• 18:24
  [kel]: food style right get him in get them out it's almost like hurting cattle so
• 18:28
  [kel]: you try to get the quickest diagnosis possible and move forward with some sort of
• 18:36
  [kel]: referal or treatment plan i mean we're referring this on a previous podcast where we're
• 18:39
  [kel]: talking about kind of like quick protocols and so forth and you know this is
• 18:45
  [kel]: so this is really problematic because you're not going to have that time for co
• 18:49
  [kel]: ordination of care identified identification of hypotheses testing that out and so forth and too
• 18:56
  [kel]: many of these doctors don't realize that the symptoms are the presentations that are being
• 19:02
  [kel]: provided especially if they're coming straight out of a d s m that's got to
• 19:06
  [kel]: be a red flag because you can easily bring that up on the internet if
• 19:10
  [kel]: they're just talking about their experience in terms of like symptoms or behaviours they're feeding
• 19:17
  [kel]: right in two the problems that exist in our health care centers yeah um m
• 19:25
  [kel]: do you want to play another one a d h d popped up so i'm
• 19:28
  [kel]: just curious what you think about we've had a couple of podcasts on this i
• 19:33
  [kel]: want to see what this video says so i'm going to pull this up okay
• 19:38
  [kel]: people think having d d just means you can't focus but it's so much more
• 19:41
  [kel]: than that you are nine signs that you may have a d and we're going
• 19:44
  [kel]: to remember them with the acton fast minds for forget you forget if people have
• 19:50
  [kel]: told you where you put things you need reminders for everyday things or do you
• 19:54
  [kel]: mis appointments aids for achieving below potential do you feel like you should be getting
• 19:59
  [kel]: better grades in school or you should be farther ahead in your career s stands
• 20:03
  [kel]: for stuck in a run are you having a hard time moving ahead in your
• 20:06
  [kel]: life are you constantly playing catch up instead of living life how you want to
• 20:10
  [kel]: is for time challenge are you often late do you underestimate the amount of time
• 20:16
  [kel]: things actually take stands for motivationally challenged procrastinator or do things last minute you wait
• 20:23
  [kel]: for the pressure of a dead line to get things done his as for impulsive
• 20:27
  [kel]: do you do things without anticipating the consequences you let things out in conversation by
• 20:34
  [kel]: the way if you're still with me on this video good job on stands for
• 20:38
  [kel]: a novelty are you often bored do you say yes to new obligations when you're
• 20:43
  [kel]: already too busy stands for distractable though sights sounds thoughts or lower priority activities to
• 20:50
  [kel]: at you from what you should be doing and finally is for scattered are things
• 20:54
  [kel]: messy in your personal space is there chaos in your desk house or car if
• 20:59
  [kel]: any of these things sound familiar you might have a d d highly recommend a
• 21:05
  [kel]: ride if you have and of course follow me for there's that ending follow me
• 21:11
  [kel]: for more that was i believe i have a my wife has a d d
• 21:15
  [kel]: i can tell i hate this stuff i mean i loathe it right because he
• 21:23
  [kel]: just he just defined an adolescent a fat mind well like novelty seeking impulsivity in
• 21:34
  [kel]: the terms of like speaking out and without thinking ahead of consequences kind of distractable
• 21:38
  [kel]: or scattered motivationally challenged you know the concern about this is a number of people
• 21:49
  [kel]: believe that their poor achievement or their struggles are related to some illness hey everybody
• 21:56
  [kel]: d h d was made up let me put it out there a d h
• 22:02
  [kel]: d is not a legitimate illness it was designed for a small portion of people
• 22:12
  [kel]: whose brains worked in a certain way there's a concept called nero diversity you know
• 22:18
  [kel]: nero diversity has to be developed as a concept and an idea in response to
• 22:25
  [kel]: these ridiculous trends right your brain has been adapted over centuries to survive in the
• 22:36
  [kel]: environment in which you live right the brain is developed to be able to attend
• 22:42
  [kel]: to relrelative stimuli we live in a fast paced world we are exposed to constant
• 22:50
  [kel]: stimuli why we can drive it's why we can drive on a highway and make
• 22:56
  [kel]: decisions so quickly and automatically there's so much stimuli that's going on you know when
• 23:02
  [kel]: you're driving a car when you grow up in a world where you're playing video
• 23:07
  [kel]: games listening to tik tok texting doing a number of other things your brain is
• 23:14
  [kel]: really being conditioned it's developed to respond to this multiple stimuli quickly right and so
• 23:21
  [kel]: when you don't have at you might feel bored the brain is kind of craving
• 23:29
  [kel]: kind of that opening kind of response or reaction so we see generate we have
• 23:34
  [kel]: a whole generation of kids living in screens and so forth who are going to
• 23:39
  [kel]: have a very difficult time um responding appropriately and environments that are not stimulating and
• 23:49
  [kel]: so that makes makes it a challenge to be able to potentially even chive achieve
• 23:55
  [kel]: at a level that school environment or maybe your parents have expectations to if you
• 24:01
  [kel]: are living in that environment um and i think it's going to be really challenging
• 24:06
  [kel]: motivationally to be able to read history we're to read english when you're playing these
• 24:14
  [kel]: video games that are really emotionally stimulating and complex and cognitively challenging that could be
• 24:24
  [kel]: like first person kind of shooter games or so forth there's competition it's kind of
• 24:30
  [kel]: mimic ing um you know being in almost like a warfare situation so there's like
• 24:35
  [kel]: there's a there's an emotional kind of component to it then you have these tik
• 24:41
  [kel]: tok videos and you have instagram and it's the constant you know uh rolling and
• 24:47
  [kel]: sweeping back and forth which gives you like a dopamean hit after a dopamenit so
• 24:52
  [kel]: your response to that isn't disordered that's like so important like how you then evolve
• 24:58
  [kel]: and develop doesn't mean you're disordered your brain is actually working exactly as it's supposed
• 25:04
  [kel]: to it's adapting to its environment and so you have clowns like this who's trying
• 25:10
  [kel]: to financially benefit from these labels are diagnosis which he knows nothing about the history
• 25:18
  [kel]: he's not a clinician he may have wrote that book though i don't know i'll
• 25:24
  [kel]: look into it but because even in the comments he's telling people to read the
• 25:27
  [kel]: book so he has some type of connection there and let's go into the business
• 25:32
  [kel]: part of this because think of the three major platforms video sharing you've got youtube
• 25:39
  [kel]: have instagram probably facebook but we'll just focus on instagram and then you have tik
• 25:44
  [kel]: tok so youtubeh's been around for a long time youtube is a search engine that's
• 25:49
  [kel]: all it is it's a search engine even the wy it's structured cynematic you know
• 25:53
  [kel]: horizontal people spend much more time investing in quality producing it to be visually inspiring
• 26:01
  [kel]: and also engaging and it's usually a little bit of a longer content instagram started
• 26:05
  [kel]: off as a very visual place people were post ting images art work so the
• 26:10
  [kel]: people that are on instagram are most mostly strolling scrolling to look at visual inspiration
• 26:16
  [kel]: and now they're getting these videos and they're usually produced a little more high quality
• 26:20
  [kel]: tik tok started off and it mostly was just people taking pictures of themselves with
• 26:26
  [kel]: their friends and it's very low quality is very entry level the amount of time
• 26:31
  [kel]: that somebody puts into a video can be done in less than an hour there
• 26:35
  [kel]: just basically holding it up recording themselves and then putting some text over it so
• 26:39
  [kel]: the business bottle behind anything is if you're not paying for it you are the
• 26:43
  [kel]: business model so your eyeballs is what's generating the revenue for these companies so first
• 26:49
  [kel]: think about that you tube has a business model where it's very easily understood if
• 26:56
  [kel]: you produce great content and you're in their revenue sharing you're getting the views on
• 27:03
  [kel]: your vid o they're giving you a small percentage of that revenue that's generated from
• 27:07
  [kel]: your your video when it comes to instagram and tik tok it's all about selling
• 27:12
  [kel]: your own content if you've got a book if you a product or if you
• 27:18
  [kel]: want to be an influencer and work with brands tik tok has done something different
• 27:24
  [kel]: tik tok developed what they call a creator fund so they're encouraging people to create
• 27:29
  [kel]: as much content as possible put it out there and they have a fund of
• 27:35
  [kel]: couple million dollars but they don't tell you how they're going to disperse that fund
• 27:42
  [kel]: so the people that are in that space believe that that money is going to
• 27:45
  [kel]: be distributed based on one thing your ability to create a video that's going to
• 27:49
  [kel]: get a lot of views and go viral right and then that money might potentially
• 27:54
  [kel]: get dispersed to you so people on tik tok are mostly following a trend looking
• 28:01
  [kel]: to see what's getting a lot of balls what people are being exposed to and
• 28:06
  [kel]: then they try and mimic that and try and step it up maybe creating a
• 28:10
  [kel]: video that they think could be a little bit better so because it's so easy
• 28:14
  [kel]: to create content in tiktok i think what we're seeing is a lot of people
• 28:19
  [kel]: in the creative space maybe actors that may be young and just creative quickly creating
• 28:25
  [kel]: something that they believe following what they've been exposed to and they're seeing a video
• 28:31
  [kel]: like this that's getting twenty seven thousand views or twenty seven thousand hearts and what
• 28:36
  [kel]: they want to do is create something very similar and then you just have this
• 28:39
  [kel]: mis amount of content that is created for one specific topic and everybody's competing trying
• 28:45
  [kel]: to be the one that gets exposed next and goes viral for the hope of
• 28:49
  [kel]: maybe getting some money from tiktok that will support them in the future that's the
• 28:55
  [kel]: whole business model of tik tok scary very easy to get into but that's why
• 28:59
  [kel]: they're so much crap on there and that's all it is i crap yeah well
• 29:08
  [kel]: if you in tiktok also when with with the trends they use sound right yeah
• 29:14
  [kel]: that was a big thing to the trend but in a case like this all
• 29:17
  [kel]: right going back to roger this individual do you believe he is he has everyone's
• 29:24
  [kel]: best interest about a d h d at heart or this you know this is
• 29:29
  [kel]: the garbage that puts out there there's no actual investment in you know caring about
• 29:35
  [kel]: people's lives he just wants views he just wants hits and basically with the texas
• 29:40
  [kel]: our shooter fallacy is so like if you're really good at shooting a pistol and
• 29:45
  [kel]: you know you're saying you're going to hit right dead center those of us that
• 29:48
  [kel]: are bad it though we could just sit there and shoot and at one point
• 29:51
  [kel]: there'll be a cluster somewhere off of the target and i can just circle hey
• 29:55
  [kel]: look i've got all these symptoms i've got all these right i can just circle
• 30:00
  [kel]: and believe oh my gosh that's me i d d i can there and in
• 30:05
  [kel]: generalizations that he's using i'm watching this and i really do believe wow this is
• 30:10
  [kel]: what's wrong with me if i'm going through a tough part of my life or
• 30:12
  [kel]: if somebody has said something my grades are going down i can simply watch this
• 30:16
  [kel]: say wow and then that could bring up a conversation with parents or a therapist
• 30:21
  [kel]: well actually i think he's a victim i'm not going to blame the people who
• 30:26
  [kel]: are exposed to this in culture this is consequence to the medicalization of the human
• 30:35
  [kel]: experience that was purposely driven by both the medical establishment and its alliance with the
• 30:41
  [kel]: farmasutical industry there was a period in time where they tried to identify mental illness
• 30:49
  [kel]: is a brain condition similar to any other medical disorder it would provide credibility to
• 30:57
  [kel]: the psychiatric community and medical professionals and so they developed these quote unquote illnesses and
• 31:05
  [kel]: try to push this onto society now obviously there's a financial benefit by trying to
• 31:09
  [kel]: create drugs to treat it we've kind of a nausium kind of gone over this
• 31:14
  [kel]: experts on and so someone like him actually probably believes that his own creativity his
• 31:21
  [kel]: tendency to get bored with certain things that you know maybe society is telling him
• 31:26
  [kel]: he should focus on means that there's something wrong with him and he's over identifying
• 31:33
  [kel]: with that diagnosis now he's smart enough to be able to try to benefit off
• 31:40
  [kel]: that in some way through getting likes which is another dopamine rush and try to
• 31:47
  [kel]: get followers and can create a career around this so he's financially incentivized to be
• 31:53
  [kel]: able to present things in this way and he is now identifying with this diagnosis
• 31:59
  [kel]: now this is my concern i don't think in it benefits any individual to develop
• 32:05
  [kel]: a personal identity around a d s m diagnosis in fact there's professionals like myself
• 32:13
  [kel]: there's researchers who really motivated to actually throw out the d s m and start
• 32:22
  [kel]: over by talking about um m people who are struggling with their mental health to
• 32:29
  [kel]: be on a spectrum or a continuum and to really limit or decrease the number
• 32:37
  [kel]: of kind of conditions or disorders and try to understand it more from the scientific
• 32:41
  [kel]: perspective using actual research and strong science to understand the range of normal that exists
• 32:48
  [kel]: that's really important as there's such a range of normal the concept of nero diversity
• 32:53
  [kel]: i remember in one of my classes one of the professors said you know what
• 32:57
  [kel]: i really want guy who's working at the nuclear power plant to be a warrior
• 33:03
  [kel]: well what does that mean well the way that that person's mind works as an
• 33:08
  [kel]: engineer or something you wanted to be able to attend to and create to all
• 33:12
  [kel]: the possible problems while they're on shift or they're doing their job to prevent a
• 33:17
  [kel]: mask catastrophe right there's this normal aspect of the way our brains work at this
• 33:25
  [kel]: beautiful way allows society all to kind of connect there's people whose brains work in
• 33:31
  [kel]: a way that create there's peoples whose brain work in a certain way to s
• 33:37
  [kel]: problems there's there's engineers there's artists there's teachers there's helpers right there's people who like
• 33:43
  [kel]: to work with their hands that's that beautiful way that everything integrates in the way
• 33:47
  [kel]: that it's supposed to the idea of some of these mental illnesses are a very
• 33:52
  [kel]: restricted and narrow way of looking at the human experience and then the more you
• 33:58
  [kel]: begin to internally criticise or assess or evaluate or judge whether it's your attention or
• 34:07
  [kel]: an emotion or a sensation we know that's going to intensify itself and become a
• 34:12
  [kel]: problematic mental health concern so the way that you actually think about your own experience
• 34:19
  [kel]: matters so that's like what happens when when you're going to work with somebody as
• 34:24
  [kel]: a clinical psychologist we want to be really really attentive to how that person thinks
• 34:30
  [kel]: about their experience this is the problem with videos like this it helps shape narrative
• 34:37
  [kel]: we create a story about what our life is or about who we are and
• 34:41
  [kel]: that shaping of the story then gets presented to a to health professional or a
• 34:47
  [kel]: medical professional and then those people attach to that story as if it's real and
• 34:52
  [kel]: they give a label to it and they give a diagnosis to it and then
• 34:55
  [kel]: they provide a treatment to it so that's why you know i honestly believe all
• 35:00
  [kel]: this kind of works in a way that has created a system of care at
• 35:05
  [kel]: least in the united states and what i think of throughout the western world that
• 35:08
  [kel]: is creating more harm yeah what do you say to the people that advocate on
• 35:14
  [kel]: behalf of social networks that this is where people can find a community and find
• 35:21
  [kel]: out how to get support and find out how to get the proper treatment because
• 35:26
  [kel]: that is kind of the language that is used that we're we're finally giving people
• 35:31
  [kel]: were stigmatizing it and giving people a place where they can see that there they're
• 35:36
  [kel]: not that they're like others and that there's there's a solution that there's a plan
• 35:41
  [kel]: ahead that they can get better there's a lot of assumptions kind of when you
• 35:46
  [kel]: when you make that statement is that anyone who's going through a difficult time or
• 35:51
  [kel]: is vulnerable or young it's this idea that they can go get treatment as if
• 35:55
  [kel]: that's what they need number one there is an effective treatment number two and that
• 36:01
  [kel]: sense of community or attachment to that as a form of identity is actually healthy
• 36:06
  [kel]: and helpful so if we take certain ideas one is community important yeah it's very
• 36:14
  [kel]: important human beings are relational we need to be socially connected socially connected to screens
• 36:23
  [kel]: does not seem to have the same benefit it's a soto connection right and a
• 36:30
  [kel]: lot of times that people are feeling less alone not because they're actually connected with
• 36:35
  [kel]: somebody but because they're watching somebody on a video or they're texting that does not
• 36:41
  [kel]: seem to have the same positive benefit second point to that is what is actually
• 36:48
  [kel]: driving that persons struggle yeah i tend to believe it's more about loneliness it's about
• 37:00
  [kel]: elieving that you're different than others it's the resulting sadness and anxiety that might come
• 37:06
  [kel]: from that isolation it's not knowing how to find that connection or how to engage
• 37:14
  [kel]: in the world in an effective way to get your needs met i don't like
• 37:20
  [kel]: to think about a struggle has an illness or a disorder because if you think
• 37:27
  [kel]: about it as an opportunity or something that you need to do to address problems
• 37:33
  [kel]: in your life it's a point of transformation so i'm really concerned with that whole
• 37:38
  [kel]: medical idea that you know you just communicated like we're decreasing stigma where we're getting
• 37:45
  [kel]: the right help all available evidence would say first of all our getting steered down
• 37:50
  [kel]: the direction be provided a diagnosis and potentially a drug under the disguise that that's
• 37:57
  [kel]: actually going to improve your quality of life now one other area is the doctor's
• 38:07
  [kel]: putting videos on tik tok so it's almost like you move away from the influence
• 38:12
  [kel]: or strategy and you're going to a professional professional is now engaging in the space
• 38:17
  [kel]: and trying to inform and educate people in a style that mimics what is on
• 38:24
  [kel]: those platforms um there are some and there's one here for by polar disorder a
• 38:30
  [kel]: click on that because that's an adult it's dr tracy marks i don't know i
• 38:34
  [kel]: d tracy polar disorder can first show itself as depression mania or hypo mania there's
• 38:41
  [kel]: some signs that your depression may really be by polar disorder even if you haven't
• 38:47
  [kel]: received that diagnosis yet you and your doctor might want to think about whether or
• 38:51
  [kel]: not your illness is really your depression that you're seeing at the moment is really
• 38:56
  [kel]: part of a by polar illness and why does this matter because the way that
• 39:01
  [kel]: we treat by polar disorder is different than the way that we treat depression so
• 39:06
  [kel]: here's five signs that you may really be on the by polar spectrum number one
• 39:11
  [kel]: your first depressive episode occurs before age twenty number two you don't get better with
• 39:16
  [kel]: anti presence and in some cases you may even get worse number three you have
• 39:20
  [kel]: a family member with by polar order number four you have three or more depressive
• 39:25
  [kel]: episodes in a five year time span number five you take a mood stabilizer and
• 39:31
  [kel]: have a full recovery within a month polaris or all right hold on a second
• 39:36
  [kel]: here if anybody knows dr tracy marks tik tok she might have a national presence
• 39:44
  [kel]: somewhere outside of we have to find her because i find that so completely our
• 39:49
  [kel]: response on these two videos up she's a psychiatrist so he got a hundred and
• 39:56
  [kel]: sixty nine thousand follower that is so complete that was so irresponsible first of all
• 40:02
  [kel]: she's you know following right down the path of what we see too many in
• 40:06
  [kel]: psychiatry doing they're talking about things in terms of illnesses and depressive episodes without strong
• 40:12
  [kel]: definition so the idea that you know you're actually this is young people here that
• 40:17
  [kel]: year is your target audience and when you're talking about the pressive episodes before the
• 40:22
  [kel]: age of twenty do you really think that teenagers know what the pressive episodes are
• 40:25
  [kel]: they don't they don't even understand what the feeling of sadness is anymore they talk
• 40:31
  [kel]: about depression in terms of a normal kind of experience that anyone would go through
• 40:37
  [kel]: my depression just meant you were sad like i hear teen agers consistently talking about
• 40:42
  [kel]: their sadness is my depression so if you count like three four fine this is
• 40:46
  [kel]: all made up there's no science around this bullshit so you just say like well
• 40:49
  [kel]: you had three depressive episodes before the age of twenty well this could be a
• 40:54
  [kel]: by polar illness think what it does to a young person who has no do
• 40:57
  [kel]: what she's talking about right so a bi polar illness by polar illness is traditionally
• 41:02
  [kel]: something that was quite serious right it was a way to categorize the side of
• 41:06
  [kel]: mania man is really impairing and there is you know a response to that man
• 41:13
  [kel]: people would often go through a manic episode in an absolutely crash we don't really
• 41:17
  [kel]: understand the etiology of it like why some people experience it but traditionally like eighty
• 41:24
  [kel]: percent before we had drugs like quote unquote mood stabilizers those who are hospitalized for
• 41:31
  [kel]: by pole are close to eighty per cent of those would have only one episode
• 41:34
  [kel]: but anyway you're just like mass producing this idea to get people to be confused
• 41:39
  [kel]: around their own their own emotional experience and of course she talks about treatments in
• 41:45
  [kel]: terms of drugs and so if you have this depressive illness for teen agers could
• 41:50
  [kel]: be just sad and it's balanced maybe not feeling sad well then you can view
• 41:56
  [kel]: your normal experience or just having a positive mood or having some energy you can
• 42:02
  [kel]: then interpret that as hypomenia this concept of mania on on a spectrum and so
• 42:10
  [kel]: i really think that people like dr tracy marks are harmful and they're perpetrating a
• 42:17
  [kel]: lot of these ideas too vulnerable population and it's why we see these rising rates
• 42:22
  [kel]: of by polar diagnosis in young people when it would have never met that criteria
• 42:28
  [kel]: thirty forty fifty years ago is she benefiting in some way financially from this she's
• 42:34
  [kel]: selling books so i mean it's a platform your eyeballs are basically the whole reason
• 42:43
  [kel]: for this platform existing and if you're going to be on the platform it's to
• 42:47
  [kel]: sell a product affiliate yourself with a brand to try and get them to pay
• 42:52
  [kel]: you or to do something so extreme that you're going to go viral and you're
• 42:57
  [kel]: going to get paid through tik tok so that's all it is so he's creating
• 43:02
  [kel]: sixty second video that's cut and edited in a way that everything else on tik
• 43:08
  [kel]: tok is it's fast paced it's going through a list lists are stupid and digestible
• 43:15
  [kel]: and people click on that stuff and then it directs you back to buy her
• 43:19
  [kel]: books on amazon or t shirts and things like that for you incurring revenue stream
• 43:25
  [kel]: right there you know it's interesting when you talk to some of the old talked
• 43:31
  [kel]: to or you just listen to some of the old psychiatrists who are in the
• 43:34
  [kel]: early days of the d s m development the purpose of that was to have
• 43:40
  [kel]: some construct professionals to communicate with each other the many will recognize that those diagnosis
• 43:50
  [kel]: don't have strong scientific validity but yet just a way to articulate and communicate a
• 43:58
  [kel]: cluster of kind of symptoms or reactions in order to drive a direction and how
• 44:02
  [kel]: you help that person boy has that just gotten com pletely out of control where
• 44:08
  [kel]: people believe that these are discreet and separate medical illnesses with scientific validity and that's
• 44:16
  [kel]: the sad thing about this polar disorder doesn't mean what by polar disorder was fifty
• 44:23
  [kel]: years ago it has now developed its own meaning so anybody who's experiencing it tense
• 44:30
  [kel]: emotions in any way or any dis regulated episode if they are exposed to this
• 44:35
  [kel]: propaganda they go to the wrong medical professional they are going to receive a label
• 44:42
  [kel]: by pull or disorder with high frequency because that's how it's going to be communicated
• 44:49
  [kel]: so medical professionals psychological professional professionals everyone in the mental health field you have to
• 44:55
  [kel]: be aware of how these videos are influencing how your client or patient is going
• 45:05
  [kel]: to describe their experience to you yea because it's the first place a lot of
• 45:11
  [kel]: people go to get the information to self diagnose themselves and then they say all
• 45:17
  [kel]: the things that they need to say that a doctor will say well those are
• 45:20
  [kel]: all the things you know i'm checking my list you've you've hit them all you
• 45:24
  [kel]: clearly have this let's get into like i think the problem and the real problem
• 45:29
  [kel]: is our health care system i mean you have you have a doctor that is
• 45:34
  [kel]: probably over a hundred thousand dollars in debt because of student loans got paid nothing
• 45:40
  [kel]: while they're in their residency and then they're out in the free world in their
• 45:44
  [kel]: finally starting to start their own practice and get reimversed through our health insurance model
• 45:50
  [kel]: which doesn't pay doctors anything which is the reason why they sit down with a
• 45:54
  [kel]: client or a patient in a normal general practitioner for eight minutes because the only
• 46:01
  [kel]: way you can generate enough revenue through the reimbursement from the health care industry is
• 46:06
  [kel]: to make sure that you're seeing enough pay ants or clients in a day to
• 46:11
  [kel]: pay your nurses to pay your office and then it's just not enough so then
• 46:15
  [kel]: you have doctors that going to write a book and they're going hope to sell
• 46:19
  [kel]: the book to hopefully make things ends meet and then they're like well the book
• 46:24
  [kel]: needs to sell i need to get on these platforms and create a one minute
• 46:28
  [kel]: video or a thirty second video that's going to generate enough eyeball to get clicks
• 46:34
  [kel]: to possibly sell my book and they're probably working with production companies that are guiding
• 46:38
  [kel]: them on the things that work and that's why that video looks the way that
• 46:42
  [kel]: it does i'm not going to say that tracy a is an evil person but
• 46:46
  [kel]: i think she's fallen into the system that exists today that is broken and that's
• 46:50
  [kel]: our united states national health care system i don't want to say that she's evil
• 46:55
  [kel]: but i do think we to talk about a high ethical standard and to meet
• 47:00
  [kel]: that high ethical standard you have to be aware of how you're communicating and how
• 47:07
  [kel]: how this can be interpreted that's the idea of exploitation right she's exploiting the platform
• 47:12
  [kel]: is exploiting a certain group of people that are now exposed to this and are
• 47:17
  [kel]: vulnerable and are now sell diagnosing which is causing a whole bunch of problems and
• 47:23
  [kel]: from an ethical perspective somebody needs to take a step back and say at what
• 47:27
  [kel]: point am i putting myself over the welfare of others such a good point and
• 47:32
  [kel]: when you think about the medium of tik tok you're talking about i don't like
• 47:37
  [kel]: thirty second one minute clips something as complex as medical condition or your own mental
• 47:47
  [kel]: health being dumb down in a thirty second or one minute clip for a vulnerable
• 47:55
  [kel]: population who is going to be on that is so incredibly harmful dangerous ignorant throw
• 48:02
  [kel]: the word whatever it exists out there and i want to go back to your
• 48:06
  [kel]: comment on the health care system because you made some really good points i don't
• 48:11
  [kel]: know and i haven't studied this but we know in our region the major hospital
• 48:15
  [kel]: networks have bought out all the primary care centers so you have more and more
• 48:20
  [kel]: kind of middle man involved in this all the way up to the top so
• 48:25
  [kel]: the primary care doctors which i think close to eighty percent of all psychiatric drugs
• 48:30
  [kel]: are being prescribed in primary care centers the real victims of this because they do
• 48:35
  [kel]: accrue all that debt going to medical school and there the income for primary care
• 48:43
  [kel]: doctor is not rising at the rate of other specialists we have obviously increasing and
• 48:51
  [kel]: inflation so the money that you do make isn't going as far here's a lot
• 48:55
  [kel]: of different costs that you have to pay and the model is being driven and
• 49:00
  [kel]: it's a sick care model to get him and get him out and the more
• 49:05
  [kel]: people you see the more revenue you're going to generate and then with the insurance
• 49:10
  [kel]: care model now they have their own separate kind of business model and they're going
• 49:14
  [kel]: to make money by denying claims by denying tests so really it's kind of a
• 49:20
  [kel]: center that kind of system that kind of feeds off of itself in a way
• 49:24
  [kel]: that harms the patient and these videos when i think about it are away for
• 49:32
  [kel]: people to get information because they're not getting that information from sources that are valid
• 49:38
  [kel]: if you don't have a relationship with your own doctor um and you don't have
• 49:43
  [kel]: enough time to ask questions and they don't have enough time to do adequate research
• 49:48
  [kel]: there's a lot of information that's being left out and generations ago your primary care
• 49:56
  [kel]: physician knew your entire family know there was a relationship that was built and you
• 50:01
  [kel]: trusted that person and there was hum connection involved and you made decisions based on
• 50:10
  [kel]: the health i'm based on your own health welfare and that of your family based
• 50:14
  [kel]: on the trust that you gave to that physician and i feel like that's kind
• 50:18
  [kel]: of gotten eroded and our current culture because of this fast food health care model
• 50:24
  [kel]: you're not going to develop the relationship with the physician in fact it's very challenging
• 50:30
  [kel]: to get the same person over and over again if you go into health care
• 50:33
  [kel]: centers i mean you might deal with the physician that day or another person in
• 50:38
  [kel]: his or her group or a physician assistant or a nurse practitioner and they're getting
• 50:42
  [kel]: their information from quick notes that they're putting into a system so it's really become
• 50:47
  [kel]: a dumb down um m liquidated kind of approached to know symptom management and this
• 50:55
  [kel]: fits right into it and i don't know all the solutions because that's kind of
• 51:00
  [kel]: above my pay grade but i know what the problems are and in some ways
• 51:07
  [kel]: that people are going to who are working in the health care system mental health
• 51:10
  [kel]: physical health are going to have to somehow detach the way of currently doing things
• 51:16
  [kel]: from and make it more of a cash kind of system where people who are
• 51:20
  [kel]: really interested in their their health can spend time with somebody and get get the
• 51:26
  [kel]: tests that they require to be able to really evaluate what might be happening with
• 51:31
  [kel]: their health and their mental health instead of going for these quick symptom check list
• 51:36
  [kel]: than pills