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Extra - Danish Election and How Danish Prime Ministers have navigated internationally · Diplomacy and International Relations

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You know when you watch a master watchmaker at work, everything
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looks incredibly serene from the outside.
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Oh yeah, completely calm. Exactly.
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You just see this like smooth continuous sweep of the second
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hand on the dial. But if you were to actually take
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a microscopic screwdriver, pry off the back casing and look
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inside where you would see a profoundly chaotic environment.
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Right. High tension environment, yeah.
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You'd find hundreds of these tiny interlocking gears and
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microscopic springs that are just coiled to their absolute
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physical limit, constantly grinding against each other just
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to maintain that outward facade of stable time keeping.
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It's basically a controlled collision of forces.
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And I mean, the tension is the point.
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If just one of those tiny gears slips even a fraction of a
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millimeter or, you know, if one spring loses its tension, the
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entire mechanism ceases up the. Clock just stops dead.
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Exactly. And we so often look at global
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politics through that exact same lens, especially, especially
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when we talk about the Nordic countries.
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Oh for sure, the Scandinavian utopia trope.
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Right as external observers, we see this sleek, minimalist
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exterior. We see, you know, the top
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rankings on global happiness indexes, the robust social
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safety Nets. It's a really smooth functioning
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of a highly digitized society. Yeah, we see the clean face of
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the watch, but then you lift the casing and right now, if you
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look at the actual mechanics of what is happening inside
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Denmark, we are looking at a political and geopolitical
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landscape that is quite honestly vibrating with dangerous levels
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of tension. It is the absolute definition of
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a high tension mechanism right now.
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I mean, the external pressures are immense and the internal
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realignments are just, well, they're unlike anything we've
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seen in modern Scandinavian history.
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Welcome everyone to this extra Diplomacy and International
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Relations edition of the show. Today we are undertaking a
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massive deep dive into a genuinely historic moment, which
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is the recent Danish General Election held just days ago on
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March 24th 2026. But we aren't just looking at
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local politics here. No, not at all.
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We are examining the profound, almost tectonic Rickle effects
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this election is sending across global geopolitics.
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So if you're someone fascinated by international relations and
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So what exactly are we unpacking today?
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But our mission is to analyze a really fascinating stack of
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sources we've gathered. We want to understand how a
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nation of just 6 million people is completely rewriting its
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political DNA. Right, because they are
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navigating some huge forces. Massive forces we are pulling
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from comprehensive academic overviews, specifically the
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Danish Foreign Policy Review 2025, which is published by the
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Danish Institute for International Studies.
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Which is a fantastic resource. It really is.
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And we're integrating real time election monitoring transcripts
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from the European Policy Center, detailed geopolitical
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intelligence reports from Stratford and on the ground
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newsletters like last week in Denmark.
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So we have a really broad spectrum of data.
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Yeah, and the goal is to figure out how Denmark is navigating
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the crushing and honestly, often contradictory demands of the
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United States and the European Union.
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While also fundamentally restructuring their own society
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just to survive an era of unprecedented global
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uncertainty. Exactly.
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But before we get into the weeds, we need to make something
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very clear. Yes, this is crucial to state
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upfront, especially given the nature of the sources we are
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unpacking today. The material we are covering
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contains highly politically charged content.
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Extremely charged. We are going to be discussing
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policies that span the absolute extremes of both left wing and
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right wing ideologies. So we want to be explicitly
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clear to you, the listener. We're not taking any sides here.
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Not at all. We are not endorsing the
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viewpoints, the political strategies, or the ideologies
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contained in this content. Our job is simply to impartially
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report on the ideas, the data and the events documented in the
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original source material. We just want to help you
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understand the massive forces currently at play.
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So let's set the immediate scene.
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To truly understand Denmark's global maneuvering, we have to
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look at the domestic political earthquake that literally just
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happened. Right, a snap election.
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Yeah, Prime Minister Met Frederickson called a snap
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election on February 25, 2026. The results came in on March 24
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and the outcome is incredibly like historically.
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Fractured. So it's a completely shattered
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landscape. If you look at the raw numbers,
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her party, the Social Democrats, came in first, but they only
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secured 21% of the vote. Which translates to 38 seats in
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the fulcating the Danish parliament.
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Right. And to put that 21% into
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historical context. Yeah, this is the wild part.
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That represents a loss in 12 seats for them.
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It is actually the Social Democrats worst electoral result
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since 19 O 3. Wait, 19 O3 like early 20th
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century? Exactly.
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Think about the gravity of that date for a party that has
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historically been the unquestioned bedrock of the
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Danish political system. I mean, they are the very
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architects of the Nordic welfare state model.
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Right throughout the whole 20th century.
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So a result like this is just a staggering psychological blow.
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But I want to push back on the idea that this was just, you
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know, a rejection of the left because the sources show it
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wasn't just the left taking a hit.
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The collapse of the traditional powers happened on the right,
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too. Oh.
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Absolutely the center right party Venstrit.
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Which confusingly for non Danish speakers literally translates to
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left even though they are the liberal free market center right
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party. Right.
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Exactly. Well, they suffered their
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absolute worst electoral result in their 146 year history. 146
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years, that is unbelievable. This is what makes this election
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an actual earthquake. It's not just a wing of the
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pendulum from left to right, it's a shattering of the
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pendulum itself. We are looking at unprecedented
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fragmentation. Because there are now 12
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different parties entering the Danish parliament, right?
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12 and 11 of those 12 parties pulled below 12% of the total
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vote. That is just a massive spread.
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To understand how radical this shift is, the European Policy
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Center monitors point out that if you look back to the year
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2001, the two main parties, the Social Democrats and Benstra,
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held over 60% of the vote combined.
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They were the twin pillars of Danish politics.
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But today, after this 2026 election, those two historic
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heavyweights hold just 32% together.
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Wow. And the analysts in our think
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tank reports they're calling this the Hollandization of
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Danish politics, right? Yeah, referencing the
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Netherlands. Right, which is a country
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traditionally known for extreme multi party fracturing, mostly
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because of their pure proportional representation
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system. I mean, in the Netherlands you
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often need four or five or sometimes six parties just to
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form a working bare majority government.
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And Denmark has officially arrived at that level of intense
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fragmentation. And this creates A monumental,
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like most mathematically impossible puzzle.
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The falconing has 179 seats. The magic number you need to
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secure a governing majority is 90 right now, according to the
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final tallies. The left wing block collectively
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holds 84 seats. The right wing block
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collectively holds 77 seats. So nobody has the 90.
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Exactly. Neither the traditional left nor
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the traditional right can form a government on its own, without
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crossing the aisle or making massive concessions.
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Because of this fracture, we have to look closely at who
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actually capitalized on the chaos.
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The Danish People's Party, which is a far right nationalist
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party. They surged to 9.1% of the vote.
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They secured 16 seats, right? Yeah.
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Which is a massive 11 seat increase from the previous
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elections. So how did they pull that off
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when everyone else was losing ground?
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According to the EPC transcripts, they achieved this
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by campaigning aggressively and almost exclusively on cost of
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living and anxiety. They didn't just talk about
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abstract economics. Their leader, Morton
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Messerschmitt, was literally out at gas stations handing out
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discounted gas to drivers. Wow, that's a very direct
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tactic. Very direct.
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He visibly tied global economic pressures.
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You know, the cost of heating a home, filling a tank directly to
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the perceived failures of the centrist establishment.
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But while the extremes gain ground, the true pivot point,
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the ultimate kingmaker in this entire complex scenario, is a
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man named Lars Licker Rasmussen and his moderates party.
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Yes, they secured 7.7% of the vote, which gives them 14 highly
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strategic seats. And to understand his role, you
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really have to know his background.
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I mean, Rasmussen is a former Prime Minister himself, having
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previously led the Venture Party.
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Right then he broke away. Yeah, he formed his own centrist
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party and actually served as the outgoing foreign minister under
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Frederickson's most recent Cross Isle coalition government.
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What's wild to me, reading through the Stratford
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intelligence reports, is that Rasmussen's party was polling
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dangerously low just a few months ago.
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Really. How low?
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In December they were hovering below the 2% threshold and in
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Denmark, if you don't hit 2% you get 0 seats in parliament.
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You are entirely wiped off the board.
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Oh wow, so how on earth did he survive and bounce back to
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nearly 8% when his larger coalition partners took historic
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beatings? He survived through sheer,
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highly visible statesmanship During the recent international
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crises that precipitated this snap election.
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Rasmussen basically positioned himself as the calm, rational,
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experienced adult in the room. Interesting when tensions flared
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globally, particularly regarding the friction between the United
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States and Greenland, which we are definitely going to dissect
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in detail shortly, Rasmussen didn't panic or grandstand.
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He just went straight to work. Exactly.
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He traveled directly to Washington, DC He met with key
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figures in the current US administration, including JD
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Vance and Marco Rubio, and maintained A remarkably steady
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diplomatic hand. And the voters rewarded that.
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Yeah, the Danish voters who were highly anxious about these
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geopolitical threats, they rewarded that stability.
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His actions protected the moderates from the severe
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electoral punishment that voters handed out to the Social
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Democrats and Ben St. So now Denmark.
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There's this incredibly quirky, deeply traditional process known
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as the King's Round. Oh, this is a fascinating
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tradition. It really is.
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King Frederick X, who recently took the throne, plays a formal
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constitutional role here. He hosts the party leaders at
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the palace. Each of the 12 party leaders
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goes to the monarch cry. And they advise him on who
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should be appointed as the royal investigator to try and form a
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government and rest. Masson, holding those 14 crucial
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centrist seats, is basically sitting right in the middle of
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this chaos, holding all the cards.
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He is, but he has drawn some very clear red lines.
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He refuses to base any government on the mandates of
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the far left parties, and he vehemently refuses to rely on
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the far right Danish People's Party.
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What's his reasoning for that? His explicit reasoning, as noted
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in the sources, is that the Danish People's Party advocates
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for policies that would violate international migration
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conventions. And, you know, as a former
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foreign minister focused on international law, he views that
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as a total non starter. Reading through these election
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reports, I keep visualizing this twelve party system as a
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massive, constantly shifting Rubik's Cube.
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That's a great way to look at it.
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Yeah, like you try to solve the red side.
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Let's say you're trying to get an agreement on progressive
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environmental policy, but in the process of twisting the rows to
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get the red squares to line up, you completely scramble the blue
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side, which represents, say, migration policy or economic
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reform. Every single twist alienates a
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different faction. Exactly.
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Let me challenge this setup for a second.
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Imagine you are a Danish voter, right?
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You live in a small country of 6 million people.
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You are watching an aggressive Russia to your east and dealing
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with an incredibly demanding, unpredictable America to your
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West. It's a tough.
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Spot very. So does this extreme domestic
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fragmentation paralyze the country?
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Does having 12 voices screaming in parliament destroy a small
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nation's ability to execute a coherent foreign policy?
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Or does it perversely force a more stable centrist consensus
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because the extremes simply cancel each other out?
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That is the pivotal question of Danish governance right now, and
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the answer drawn from the academic consensus in our
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sources is that the fragmentation does not 'cause
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paralysis on the existential issues.
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Really. So they can still function on
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the big stuff. Surprisingly, yes.
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On the big questions, security, foreign policy, and NATO
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alignment, there is actually a remarkable rock solid consensus
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in the Danish center. But how that center has managed
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to hold together is a fascinating story of political
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engineering, because to maintain that center, Prime Minister Met
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Frederickson had to essentially blow up the traditional
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ideological spectrum. Which perfectly sets up the next
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crucial piece of this deep dive. Because to understand how
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Frederickson survived this election at all, even with
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historic losses, we have to look at her domestic survival
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strategy over the past several years.
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Quite the strategy. Yeah, to maintain power in this
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chaotic Hollandized environment, met Fredrickson, engineered with
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the political scientists in our sources describe as a radical
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ideological hybrid. It is a strategy that
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fundamentally rewrites the entire playbook for European
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social democracy. Let's unpack that because
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usually the left is struggling right now.
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Exactly. If you look across Europe over
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the last decade, much of the traditional left has collapsed.
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Political scientists call it pesocification, named after the
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Greek Socialist Party PESOC that practically vanished, right?
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Because working class voters just abandoned center left
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parties in droves. Right.
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But Fredrickson survived by deliberately, proactively and
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unapologetically adopting hard right immigration policies.
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Wait hard right immigration policies from a center left
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leader? Yes, and she did it specifically
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in order to protect the traditional left wing Nordic
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welfare state. They call it the welfare first
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doctrine. Right.
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Yes, that's the term. The logic she presents to the
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voters is incredibly blunt and it goes something like this.
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Denmark has an extraordinarily generous, high quality public
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service system. It relies on extremely high
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taxes, but in return citizens get free healthcare, free
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university education, subsidized childcare, robust unemployment
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benefits. It's the classic Nordic model.
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Exactly. And she asserts that this high
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trust system can only survive financially and socially if
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immigration, particularly from non Western countries, is
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strictly limited to those who fully share the economic and
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cultural compact of the nation. Now if you step back and look at
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the broader historical context, this was rhetoric that 10 or 15
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years ago was exclusively the domain of the populist anti
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immigrant right in Europe. Totally taboo for the left.
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It was considered entirely taboo for a mainstream Social
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Democratic Party, but Fredrickson took that taboo
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rhetoric and formalized it into official Social Democratic
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doctrine. And it wasn't just talk.
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The sources provide a highly detailed, neutral accounting of
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the remarkably strict asylum regimes her successive
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governments have implemented since 2019 to achieve this.
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Yeah, let's walk through the mechanics of these policies
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exactly as the think tanks report them, because the scope
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and legal creativity involved is just vast.
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Right First, her government actively explored offshoring the
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entire asylum processing system. They looked into formal
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agreements with third countries, most notably Rwanda.
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So they wouldn't even process them in Denmark.
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Exactly. The idea was that if an asylum
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seeker arrived in Denmark, they wouldn't be processed there.
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They would be flown to Rwanda while their case was reviewed.
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They also introduced the concept of return hubs, which would be
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located completely outside the borders of the European Union,
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specifically for rejected asylum seekers.
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Wow. And they dramatically tightened
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the legal requirements for family reunification.
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They even and instituted a policy where residency permits
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for refugees could be actively revoked if the Danish government
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determined that the security conditions in their home
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countries had sufficiently improved.
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Like in the certain regions of Syria, right?
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Yes, exactly like Syria. And this applied regardless of
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whether the refugees had already built a life in Denmark.
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And perhaps the most complex and legally controversial of these
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policies is what became known as the Ghetto Plan.
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Oh, this one is really intense. According to the sources, this
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involved legally defining certain vulnerable neighborhoods
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based on specific metrics like they looked at the percentage of
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non western immigrants, local crime rates and unemployment
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levels. And then what happened to those
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neighborhoods? Well, once a neighborhood was
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designated with this label, the state could actually double the
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legal prison sentences for certain crimes committed within
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those specific geographical zones.
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Wait, really? Double the sentence.
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Yeah, so a crime committed on one side of the street could
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carry twice the penalty of the exact same crime committed three
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blocks away. That is, that is legally wild.
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And the overarching philosophy behind all of these distinct
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mechanisms was crystallized when her own immigration minister
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explicitly stated that the ultimate political goal of the
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government was 0 asylum seekers. Zero.
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That's a very, very clear goal. It is, and again it is vital to
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remember this isn't a right wing coalition enacting these laws.
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This is the center left Social Democrats pushing this through
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parliament. And we really have to look at
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the cold, hard electoral mathematics of why they did
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this. By completely stealing the far
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rights Thunder on the incredibly potent issue of borders and
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migration, Frederickson essentially neutralized the
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traditional threats to her party.
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Like in places like France or the UK, working class and lower
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middle class voters abandoned the left because they felt
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progressive parties were elitist and ignoring their anxieties
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about cultural change, integration and wage
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competition. They felt left behind.
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Yeah, Frederickson essentially looked at those voters and said
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we hear your anxieties and we will put our people first.
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And from a purely tactical standpoint, it worked for a long
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time. The working class rewarded her
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approach, allowing her to build a durable cross class coalition
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that kept her in the Prime Minister's office where other
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European leftist leaders were wiped out.
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But it requires an incredibly delicate balancing act, no?
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Extremely delicate because you can't just be tough on borders
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if you are the Social Democrats, you still have to deliver on the
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left wing economic promises that your base expects.
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Exactly. The strict borders are just the
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defensive wall. Inside the the wall, she
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deployed classic bread and butter left wing economic
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policies. Like what?
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For example, she proposed a new wealth tax specifically designed
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to increase funding for public education and elder care
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welfare. OK.
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And the timing of the snap election meant she was also
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dealing with intense economic pressure from external events.
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Right, the global economy was shaky.
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Yeah, the geopolitical reports mentioned high inflation fueled
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by the war in Iran, which in the timeline of these 2026 sources,
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it's causing global energy markets to panic.
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That translates to housing and winter heating costs just
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spiking for the average person in Copenhagen.
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Exactly so. Frederickson immediately
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promised to intervene with direct state support for food
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and heating to protect the most economically vulnerable.
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She campaigned on macroeconomics but also hyperlocal welfare
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issues. Right down to legislating better
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animal welfare standards for farm pigs to appease the
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agricultural and environmental sectors.
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It's a very comprehensive approach.
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I keep visualizing the strategy as building a medieval fortress,
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like she is forcefully drawing up the drawbridge representing
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these incredibly strict immigration policies to
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aggressively protect the treasury inside which is the
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welfare state. That's a very vivid analogy.
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But here is where I have to question the long term viability
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of this Is this hybrid model, this fortress building, a
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genuinely sustainable blueprint for the?
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Future of European politics? Or is it just a precarious high
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wire act? Doesn't she risk constantly
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alienating the progressive urban left wing base of her party
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while forever chasing right wing talking points just to stay one
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step ahead of the populist parties?
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Well, the analysis from the European Policy Center indicates
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that it is in fact both. Both.
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Yeah, it is an exhausting high wire act, but it might be the
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only sustainable blueprint for European Social Democrats in the
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current era. The analysts note a deep
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polarization in how she is viewed.
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I mean, critics call her leadership style authoritarian
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and her policies draconian, while supporters call it
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necessary pragmatic leadership in a dangerous world.
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But the numbers kind of prove it works, right?
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Yeah. The raw numbers tell the story.
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Even though she lost 12 seats in the snap election, her ability
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to hold on to 21% of the vote and remain the dominant
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political force After 7 grueling years in power, navigating A
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pandemic, a war in Ukraine, war in the Middle East, and historic
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inflation, it proves that this welfare first cross pollination
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is incredibly resilient. So we've explored how Denmark
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has spent the last several years building this ideological
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fortress around its domestic welfare state.
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But as any historian will tell you, a fortress is completely
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useless if the ground beneath it is crumbling.
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That is very true. You cannot protect your domestic
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treasury if you cannot secure your physical borders against
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external military threats. And for Denmark, the ground
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beneath their feet has historically been secured by one
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very specific entity, the United States.
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And that is the crucial pivot. The Danish Foreign Policy Review
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2025 features a brilliant, extensive analysis by scholars
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like Stun Rinning into Denmark's strategic culture.
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And they outline a massive shift, don't they?
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A generational evolution and how Denmark views the global stage
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and the use of military force. If we go back to the Cold War,
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Denmark practiced what was known academically as adaptation.
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Or sometimes derisively called footnote policy, right?
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Exactly. They were a NATO member, yes,
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but a quiet, somewhat hesitant one.
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They often added footnotes to NATO communiques expressing
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reservations about nuclear deployments.
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And in the 90s, after the Soviet Union fell, they focused heavily
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on UN peacekeeping missions in places like the Balkans.
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But after the September 11 attacks in 2001 under then Prime
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Minister Fahr Rasmussen, the Danish mindset underwent a
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radical transformation. They decided to become a quote
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UN quote strategic actor, and they adopted a foreign policy
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doctrine that academics explicitly label Super
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Atlanticism. Super Atlanticism.
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It's quite a term. Let's breakdown how that
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actually functioned in reality. What it meant was that Denmark
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began using its own military force as a form of geopolitical
22:53
currency. Interesting.
22:54
How so? They consciously decided to
22:57
spend Danish blood and Danish Treasure to by influence
23:02
goodwill and rock solid unquestionable security
23:05
guarantees from Washington DC. They wanted to be what's called
23:08
an entrepreneurial ally. Denmark realized that as a small
23:12
nation, they couldn't compete on total troop numbers or massive
23:15
defense budgets, so they competed on willingness and lack
23:18
of caveats. Meaning they wouldn't put
23:21
restrictions on how their troops could be used.
23:23
Exactly. They wanted to be seen by the US
23:25
military establishment not just as another European country
23:28
complaining about defense burdens, but as a premier top
23:31
tier partner willing to fight on the front lines.
23:34
You didn't work. This strategy was highly
23:36
successful in granting them disproportionate access to
23:39
confidential American intelligence and elevating their
23:42
diplomatic status high above other European nations of
23:45
similar size. But the toll of that strategy
23:47
was immense, and it was deeply fault at home.
23:49
I mean, for a nation of just 6 million people, the sacrifice of
23:53
Super Atlanticism was highly visible.
23:55
Yeah, fighting alongside the US and the UK in the hardest
23:58
provinces of Iraq and Afghanistan, Denmark lost 44
24:02
soldiers, with 37 of them killed in direct action.
24:05
If you adjust that for population size, it is an
24:08
immense, tragic sacrifice. It was a heavy price paid for a
24:12
geopolitical relationship. And that profound historical
24:15
reliance, that intense multi decade need to keep Washington
24:19
happy and engaged, collided spectacularly with the immediate
24:23
geopolitical crisis that actually triggered the snap
24:26
election in early 2026. Right.
24:29
Donald Trump's renewed aggressive public desire to
24:32
acquire Greenland. Yeah, this is where global
24:35
geopolitics sounds like science fiction, but it is incredibly
24:38
real and incredibly urgent for Denmark.
24:40
For context, for those who might not know, Greenland is an
24:42
autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark.
24:45
It has its own government for domestic affairs, but Denmark
24:47
handles its foreign policy and security.
24:49
And suddenly the US president is openly signaling he wants to buy
24:52
it. Met Fredrickson's public
24:54
response was blunt, immediate and broadcast globally.
24:57
She stated unequivocally Greenland is not for sale.
25:01
Which, as we noted when looking at the election numbers earlier,
25:04
gave her a massive rally around the flag bump in the domestic
25:07
polls. It shot her approval rating from
25:09
17% up to nearly 21% almost overnight.
25:13
The Danish public fully supported her defiance of the
25:17
American president. But beneath that very loud
25:19
public posturing, the think tank sources reveal A fascinating
25:24
high stakes layer of secret, parallel diplomacy.
25:28
Exactly, because you can't just slam the door and hang up the
25:31
phone on your primary security guarantor, especially when
25:35
Russia is rebuilding its military next door.
25:37
Right, you need them. While the politicians were
25:39
talking tough for the cameras and social media, civil servants
25:42
from Denmark, the Greenland government and the United States
25:45
were meeting very quietly, far away from the press to de
25:49
escalate the situation. European Policy Center
25:52
transcripts provide incredible detail on this working group.
25:55
It was led by the head of the Danish Foreign Service and his
25:58
Greenland AT counterpart holding discreet meetings with American
26:01
Defense and State Department officials.
26:03
And what was their strategy? Their entire strategy was
26:06
tactical delay. They wanted to slow the
26:08
political process down, keep the inflammatory rhetoric off the
26:11
radar, and find a highly technical, bureaucratic solution
26:15
to appease the US military's actual strategic needs without
26:19
conceding a single inch of sovereign territory.
26:21
And we saw the actual results of that secret back channelling
26:24
emerge during AUS Senate hearing, General Gregory Gillo,
26:29
the head of US Northern Command, testified that the US military's
26:33
primary objective wasn't real estate acquisition.
26:37
Then what was it? It was to expand early warning
26:40
radar sites in Greenland to support a massive project called
26:43
the Golden Dome missile defense system.
26:46
I see. Yeah, with hypersonic weapons
26:48
becoming a reality, the Arctic is the shortest path for a
26:51
missile traveling from adversarial territory to North
26:53
America. So Greenland's is geographically
26:55
indispensable to the Pentagon. But crucially, General Gill
26:58
stated this radar expansion could be achieved using the
27:01
existing 1951 defense treaty between the US and Denmark.
27:05
And that single statement regarding the 1951 treaty was a
27:08
masterstroke of Danish diplomacy.
27:09
How does that work? To explain, the 1951 treaty
27:13
originally allowed the US to establish the Thule Air Base,
27:17
which is now called Pacific Space Base, in northern
27:19
Greenland. By convincing the US military to
27:22
utilize the legal framework of the seven-year old treaty for
27:25
the new Golden Dome radars, Denmark entirely bypassed the
27:29
explosive domestic political issue of annexation.
27:32
We're changing territorial borders.
27:34
Exactly. They gave the US the strategic
27:36
military access it desperately desired in the Arctic, while
27:40
Frederickson got to keep her promise that Greenland and
27:42
remain Danish. It's brilliant, pragmatic
27:45
maneuvering, but it brings me to an analogy.
27:47
Watching Denmark's foreign policy over the last 20 years,
27:50
fighting brutal counterinsurgencies in the
27:52
Middle East, offering up military access in the high N,
27:56
it feels like watching a homeowner pay astronomical ever
27:58
increasing premiums on a geopolitical life insurance
28:01
policy. That's a really good way to put
28:03
it. They paid the premium in blood
28:05
in Helmand province, and they pay it in constant diplomatic
28:08
anxiety over the Arctic. But if polling as heavily
28:13
sighted in the DIS sources now shows that 60% of the Danish
28:16
public view the US as an unpredictable adversary rather
28:21
than a steadfast ally. 60% is a huge majority.
28:24
Right. And the US is putting pressure
28:26
on actual territorial sovereignty.
28:28
Has the premium on that insurance policy finally become
28:31
too high for the Danish public to stomach?
28:33
If we look at the trajectory outlined in the strategic
28:36
analysis, the answer is definitively leaning toward yes.
28:40
The premium has become exorbitant, but more
28:42
importantly, the insurance company itself is no longer
28:45
viewed as solvent or reliable. The US isn't seen as reliable
28:49
anymore. The guarantee of American
28:50
protection is no longer taken as gospel, and that realization,
28:53
that profound loss of faith, is exactly what is driving the
28:57
massive paradigm shift in Denmark's grand strategy.
29:00
Because if the US security guarantee suddenly looks
29:02
fragile, transactional and contingent on the whims of
29:04
whoever occupies the Oval Office, Denmark has no choice
29:08
but to look for shelter elsewhere.
29:09
They have to look closer to home.
29:11
They're looking to Europe, and Professor Stan Renning's thesis
29:15
in the Danish Foreign Policy Review captures this
29:18
psychological break perfectly. He literally writes the
29:21
transatlantic vacation is over. It's a phenomenal phrase, isn't
29:25
it? For decades, Denmark and
29:27
frankly, much of Western Europe, essentially outsource their hard
29:30
security to the United States. They took a vacation from the
29:33
brutal realities of power politics, confident that the US
29:37
Navy and the American nuclear umbrella would keep the world
29:40
order stable while they built their welfare estates.
29:43
That's now, Rinning argues, that the vacation is violently over.
29:47
Denmark has realized it can no longer solely rely on the
29:51
American umbrella. They are being forced by
29:53
geography and circumstance to actively shape and massively pay
29:56
for European security. And we saw the tangible turning
30:00
point for this shift back in 2022.
30:03
To understand the magnitude of this, you have to know that for
30:05
30 years, Denmark had a formal, legally binding opt out from the
30:09
European Union's defense and security policies.
30:12
Right from the Maastricht Treaty.
30:13
Yeah, from the early 90s they were a proud, cautious EU
30:17
skeptic that refused to participate in EU military
30:20
missions or defense procurement. But mere months following the
30:24
full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine, Denmark held historic
30:29
nationwide referendum. And what happened?
30:32
The public overwhelmingly voted to abolish that 30 year defense
30:36
opt out. Overnight, they fundamentally
30:39
changed their constitutional relationship with the EU.
30:41
And this institutional shift perfectly mirrors the remarkable
30:45
personal political evolution of Met, Fredericks and herself.
30:48
Now she changed her tune completely.
30:49
Professor Marlene Wynn provides a brilliant character driven
30:52
analysis of this transformation in the source material.
30:55
When Frederickson first became Prime Minister, she was widely
30:58
considered one of the most vocal, stubborn EU skeptics and
31:02
mainstream Danish politics. I remember this during the
31:05
highly contentious 2020 EU budget negotiations.
31:08
She notoriously and publicly referred to the proposed EU
31:11
budget as GAC. Which is a Danish word that
31:14
translates roughly to crazy, ridiculous, or completely out of
31:18
touch. Right.
31:19
She aligned herself as a hardline champion of what was
31:22
called the Frugal Four. That was Denmark, the
31:25
Netherlands, Austria and Sweden, who aggressively demanded strict
31:29
financial austerity and fought tooth and nail against deeper
31:32
European financial integration. But the think tank profiles note
31:35
a complete 180° transformation since those days.
31:39
She looked at the map, she looked at Washington, and she
31:42
realized that being inflexible, frugal and isolated in Brussels
31:46
was terrible for Danish security interests.
31:49
So she changed tactics. Today, the reports describe her
31:52
as a master network worker in the halls of the EU.
31:55
She has adopted a policy of extreme, almost ruthless
31:58
pragmatism. As we touched on earlier
32:00
regarding her domestic survival, she isn't bound by traditional
32:04
left, right ideological alliances in Europe either.
32:06
No, not at all. If she needs to accomplish a
32:08
goal on externalizing migration and border control, she will
32:11
closely align with Italy's right wing Prime Minister Georgia
32:14
Maloney. But simultaneously, on the
32:16
pressing issues of European strategic autonomy, defense,
32:20
manufacturing capabilities and securing supply chains against
32:22
Chinese monopolies, she aligns strongly with France's centrist
32:26
President Emmanuel Macron. She builds bespoke alliances
32:29
based entirely on the issue at hand.
32:31
And there's one specific detail buried in the sources that truly
32:34
illustrates how much Denmark's DNA has changed.
32:38
Historically, Denmark has been one of the fiercest defenders of
32:41
the national Vigo in EU foreign policy.
32:43
Which is a big deal for small countries.
32:45
Huge The EU currently operates on a system where all 27 member
32:50
states must unanimously agree before the EU can issue a
32:54
foreign policy statement or enact sanctions.
32:56
It's the ultimate shield for small countries to prevent big
32:59
countries like Germany or France from dictating policy.
33:02
But now now the sources reveal that Fredrickson is
33:05
participating in informal high level groups alongside Germany,
33:09
actively pushing to implement majority voting in EU foreign
33:12
policy. That is a radical, almost
33:15
unthinkable departure from decades of Danish diplomatic
33:18
tradition. Truly unthinkable a few years
33:20
ago. It means Denmark is voluntarily
33:22
signaling that it is willing to occasionally be outvoted to lose
33:26
its sovereign veto power if it means the European Union as a
33:29
whole can act faster, more decisively and project power
33:34
more effectively on the global stage.
33:36
They view European paralysis as a greater threat to Danish
33:39
survival than being outvoted on a specific policy.
33:42
Furthermore, Denmark isn't just joining the European Corps, they
33:45
are positioning themselves to lead it.
33:48
Looking ahead to 2025, they are taking on what they are
33:51
internally dubbing the climate presidency.
33:54
Oh, because Denmark will hold the rotating presidency of the
33:57
Council of the European Union. Yes, Concurrently, in a rare
34:00
alignment of the stars, they will hold a non permanent seat
34:03
on the UN Security Council and share the Arctic Council.
34:06
The diplomatic bandwidth required for a country of 6
34:09
million people to run all three simultaneously is immense.
34:14
This is a diplomatic super year for them.
34:17
And the think tank reports highlight exactly how they
34:19
intend to leverage this moment. They aren't just pushing
34:22
environmentalism because it's morally good, they're actively
34:25
weaponizing it as a geopolitical tool.
34:27
Interesting. They are transforming climate
34:29
policy, their dominance in wind energy technology and green
34:34
energy exports into a potent form of hard economic soft
34:37
power. I see.
34:39
They want to make Danish technology physically
34:41
indispensable to the EU's green transition, irrevocably tying
34:46
the economies of Central Europe to Danish innovation.
34:49
It's a way of making themselves too vital to be ignored.
34:52
I see the strategy, but imagine this scenario.
34:56
Denmark is acting like a stubborn tenant who has lived in
34:59
an apartment building for 30 years, constantly complaining
35:02
about the landlord refusing to pay the extra fees for common
35:05
area maintenance and keeping to themselves.
35:07
OK, I follow you. But suddenly, there's a violent
35:09
break in right down the street. Russia invades Ukraine and the
35:13
local police force, meaning the US starts hanging up the phone
35:16
when they call for help. So the tenant suddenly panics by
35:19
the entire apartment building, starts organizing the
35:22
neighborhood watch and installs security cameras everywhere.
35:25
My question for the expert analysis is, is this massive
35:28
enthusiastic shift to the EU core driven by a genuine
35:32
newfound idealistic belief in the European project, or is it
35:37
purely A cynical panic induced response to an unreliable
35:40
America and an aggressive Russia?
35:42
It's an incredibly astute analogy, and according to
35:45
Marlene Wynn's rigorous analysis in our source material, the
35:47
latter is far more accurate. So it is panic.
35:50
This sudden rapprochement and embrace of Brussels that we are
35:53
witnessing is driven very little by sudden idealism or a newfound
35:56
love of European federalism. It is driven almost entirely by
36:00
Denmark's own raw existential security concerns.
36:03
Survival mode. Exactly.
36:05
The illegal, brutal invasion of Ukraine shattered the illusion
36:08
of perpetual peace in Europe, and the growing instability of
36:11
the transatlantic alliance shocked the Danish political
36:14
system to its core. They moved to the center of
36:17
Europe not because they suddenly love the architecture of the EU,
36:20
but because it is the only viable, structurally sound
36:22
shelter left in a rapidly gathering storm.
36:25
Which brings us to the final and perhaps most profound evolution
36:29
we need to discuss. Because if Denmark is going to
36:31
be a power player in this newly dangerous militarized Europe,
36:36
soft power, green tech exports and clever diplomatic networking
36:41
in Brussels are simply not enough.
36:42
No, you need hard kinetic power. And the narrative now moves to
36:46
how Denmark is fundamentally physically restructuring its
36:50
very society for hard defense while simultaneously shifting
36:53
its moral compass on the global stage.
36:56
We are entering the era of what the strategists are calling
36:59
pragmatic idealism. Let's start with the physical
37:02
militarization of Danish society, because the numbers
37:05
here represent a paradigm shift that is hard to overstate.
37:08
Right, they were cutting budgets for years.
37:09
Exactly. After decades of actively
37:12
cutting defense budgets to harvest the peace dividend and
37:14
fund the expansion of the welfare state, a broad cross
37:17
party majority in the Danish parliament agreed to raise
37:21
defense spending to a staggering 5% of GDP.
37:24
Wow. To put that in perspective, the
37:26
NATO requirement that countries constantly argue over is 2%.
37:30
Denmark is more than doubling that.
37:31
And it's not just a matter of signing bigger checks for
37:34
equipment. It's about manpower.
37:36
It's about the citizens. Yeah, the sources from the Last
37:38
Week in Denmark newsletters detail a massive societal
37:42
overhaul of military conscription scheduled to start
37:45
in August 2025. First, they are extending the
37:49
mandatory service period for conscripts from four months to
37:52
11 months. That's a huge increase in time.
37:55
But more profoundly, they are introducing absolute full gender
37:59
equality into the draft, meaning 18 year old women will be
38:02
conscripted on the exact same legal terms and in the exact
38:05
same numbers as men. The societal shockwave of that
38:09
change in a historically progressive and in recent
38:11
decades somewhat pacifist leaning Nordic culture is
38:14
immense. And the nature of the service
38:16
itself is changing drastically too, isn't it?
38:18
Well, completely. During the four month
38:19
conscription era, soldiers were mostly getting basic training,
38:22
painting barracks, learning first aid.
38:24
Under the new 11 month model, conscripts are being assigned
38:27
highly operational critical military duties like what the
38:31
sources explicitly note they will be trained in, preparing
38:33
heavy artillery, guarding vital military infrastructure, and
38:37
even helping equip and secure Denmark's incredibly expensive,
38:40
highly classified F35 fighter jets.
38:43
The entire posture and philosophy of the military is
38:46
flipping. For 20 years, Denmark maintained
38:49
an Expeditionary force. You know, a small, highly
38:53
professionalized military designed to deploy thousands of
38:55
miles away to place like Helmand Province or the Gulf of Aden.
38:59
Fighting abroad? Now the focus is strictly,
39:02
urgently, on territorial defense.
39:05
They are preparing to defend the Baltic Sea approaches and patrol
39:07
the Arctic. They are explicitly preparing
39:09
their youth for the possibility of a war at home.
39:12
And this rapid military hardening at home is accompanied
39:15
by a philosophical hardening abroad.
39:17
This is articulated brilliantly in the official 2023 Foreign
39:21
Policy Strategy formulated by Lars Lucker Rasmussen.
39:25
The pragmatic idealism doctrine. Yes, this new doctrine marks a
39:28
deliberate conscious departure from Denmark's traditional post
39:32
Cold War stance of value based idealism.
39:34
Let's define what that means, because for a very long time,
39:38
Denmark was known internationally as a moral
39:40
superpower. They use their vast foreign aid
39:43
budget to promote human rights, build democratic institutions,
39:47
and advocate for liberal values everywhere they went in the
39:50
developing world. They tied their aid directly to
39:52
human rights metrics. But the new strategy explicitly
39:56
acknowledges that Denmark and the West as a whole can no
39:59
longer afford to moralize to the world.
40:02
Lars Lecker Rasmussen made a stark uncomfortable realization
40:06
public in this strategy document.
40:07
He pointed out that 2/3 of the global population live in
40:10
countries that either explicitly support Russia regarding the war
40:13
in Ukraine or stubbornly refused to condemn it, choosing to
40:17
remain neutral. So the West is outnumbered.
40:20
The sobering reality is that the Liberal Democratic W is actually
40:24
a minority bloc globally. So Denmark is adapting its
40:27
diplomacy to match reality. They launched what they call the
40:30
Africa Century Strategy. They are completely shifting
40:33
their development aid away from moral instruction.
40:35
Where European diplomats tell African nations how they should
40:38
govern themselves. Right.
40:40
They're moving away from that and moving toward equal
40:43
transactional interest based partnerships.
40:45
To execute this, they are actively closing down Danish
40:48
embassies in countries where the dialogue has narrowed or become
40:52
unproductive. And opening new ones, right?
40:54
Yeah, they are opening brand new, highly resourced diplomatic
40:57
missions in pivotal nations like Senegal, Tunisia and Rwanda.
41:02
It is a hard nosed transactional approach to diplomacy.
41:05
They are looking for votes in the UN and access to critical
41:09
minerals, not ideological purity.
41:11
And perhaps the most glaring concrete proof of this new
41:14
unsentimental pragmatism is prominently cited in the think
41:17
tank sources is the highly controversial decision by the
41:20
government to officially lift long standing arms embargoes on
41:24
Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
41:26
Right. Denmark is now willing to sell
41:28
advanced weapons and military technology to controversial
41:31
authoritarian regimes if doing so aligns with Denmark's broader
41:35
strategic, economic and geopolitical interests in the
41:38
Middle East. At the exact same time, it is
41:41
endlessly fascinating to see how this brutal pragmatism abroad
41:44
contrasts with their deep domestic reflection on past
41:47
values. What do you mean?
41:49
Well, the sources mentioned a 70 million Danish krone
41:52
investigation recently launched by the government into
41:55
international adoptions that occurred from 1964 all the way
41:58
to 2016. The state is rigorously
42:01
investigating the legal and social conditions under which
42:04
thousands of children from South Korea, India, Vietnam and
42:07
elsewhere were adopted by Danish families.
42:10
They are actively acknowledging past systemic wrongs and seeking
42:14
to reconcile with historical moral failings.
42:17
So you have a Society of that is meticulously auditing its
42:20
historical conscience at home even as it consciously hardens
42:24
its moral stance globally to survive.
42:26
Exactly. It is a profound duality.
42:29
They are securing the domestic soul of the welfare state while
42:32
applying A ruthless realpolitik lens to the rest of the world.
42:36
I look at this concept of pragmatic idealism and it
42:38
reminds me of a strict lifelong vegetarian who gets hopelessly
42:42
lost in a freezing wilderness. After a few weeks of starving,
42:45
the idealism fades and they make the conscious decision that they
42:49
have to hunt and eat meat to survive.
42:50
That's about survival. It is a necessary survival
42:53
mechanism, yes, but doing so fundamentally compromises their
42:57
core identity. They live, but they are no
42:59
longer the person they were. My ultimate question to you,
43:03
based on all these intelligence reports, is this by dropping its
43:08
moralizing tone, by seeking transactional partnerships with
43:11
autocracies, by dealing advanced arms to Saudi Arabia, does
43:16
Denmark risk losing the very good power status, that unique
43:20
trusted international reputation that has been decades carefully
43:24
and expensively constructing? That tension is the defining
43:27
characteristic of Danish foreign policy today.
43:29
The academic consensus in the Foreign Policy Review suggests A
43:32
harsh truth. The concept of being a good
43:35
power or a moral superpower is a luxury that only exists in a
43:38
peaceful, stable, unipolar era. Which we are definitely not in
43:42
right now. Exactly.
43:43
In a multipolar, highly competitive and increasingly
43:45
violent world, international reputation is no longer based
43:48
solely on moral purity or human rights advocacy.
43:51
It is based on utility, reliability and hard strength.
43:55
Does this country have technology we need?
43:56
Can they secure the shipping lanes?
43:58
Can they defend their airspace? Precisely.
44:01
Denmark is making a calculated bet that being a strong,
44:04
indispensable, heavily armed partner to the EU, the US and
44:09
the global S is worth the moral compromises they are making.
44:13
They are basically trading their Halo for a helmet.
44:15
That is a powerful way to frame it.
44:17
Let's bring all of these complex threads together.
44:20
We want to thank you, the listener, for joining us on this
44:22
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44:27
geopolitical and domestic balancing act.
44:29
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44:33
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of ground today. We started with the fractured,
44:48
unpredictable domestic politics of the 2026 snap election,
44:52
showing how the welfare first hybrid ideology completely
44:55
neutralized the far right by Co opting their policies right.
44:58
Then we examine the high stakes secret diplomatic chess match
45:02
over Greenland and US missile defense.
45:04
We watched Denmark tivot away from an unpredictable United
45:07
States and rushed to the core of the European Union, abandoning
45:10
its historic defense opt outs and utilizing its wind energy
45:14
dominance as soft power. And finally, we saw a society
45:18
literally rearming itself, doubling its defense budget,
45:22
drafting its young men and women for 11 months of operational
45:25
duty, and abandoning its historic moral high ground for a
45:29
hard nosed survivalist pragmatic idealism.
45:32
It's a complete transformation. Which brings us to our final
45:35
thought. As we look at all these rapidly
45:37
moving parts, the massive military buildup, the incredibly
45:40
strict borders, the transactional, unsentimental
45:43
diplomacy, it is abundantly clear that Denmark is
45:46
successfully building a formidable fortress.
45:49
They are definitely securing their physical safety and
45:51
protecting their immense domestic wealth in a hostile,
45:54
unpredictable world. But I want to leave you with
45:56
this question to Mull over long after this finishes.
45:59
In the relentless pursuit of defending the Nordic welfare
46:02
state and constantly tightening the gears, raising the
46:05
drawbridge and reinforcing the armor of that beautiful societal
46:09
machine, does Denmark risk slowly sacrificing the inherent
46:13
openness, the deep social trust, and the progressive idealism
46:17
that made the Danish model so universally admired across the
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globe in the very first place? You can build the strongest,
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most heavily armored clockwork mechanism in the world to keep
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the time, but if you strip away the transparency and the beauty
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that made people marvel at it, you have to wonder if it's still
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telling the right story. Until next time, keep looking
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beneath the surface.