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Instant Reaction: Tarik Skubal Makes History As Back-To-Back Cy Young Award Winner · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory No Work, a Troy Tiger's podcast.
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Speaker 2: I'm Kieren Stegley with me as.
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Speaker 1: Always as a man who disagrees with the slogan for
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Speaker 1: everything else there is MasterCard.
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Speaker 2: Because he can do it all. He is Cody Stamenagan, How.
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Speaker 3: You doing okay? Also who still uses a master Card?
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Speaker 3: No offense any MasterCard listeners, But I just have not
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Speaker 3: known very many people still rocking the MasterCard. You can't
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Speaker 3: steal home without it, though, you can't.
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Speaker 2: Steal home without it.
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Speaker 1: We are recording this as a reaction to history, and
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Speaker 1: this is something that is one of the best parts
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Speaker 1: of being able to do this, Cody, is that we
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Speaker 1: get to talk about things as they happen, especially things
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Speaker 1: of significant historical value, and that is Tarrek Schoogle winning
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Speaker 1: the cy Young for the second consecutive year, joining some
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Speaker 1: elite company at that. And we will, of course, you know,
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Speaker 1: dive into a little bit of the history that that
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Speaker 1: we've seen these past two years. But I'm talking to
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Speaker 1: a voter like this is this is this is this
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Speaker 1: is the best way to lead this off, Cody, who
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Speaker 1: did you vote for for the Cy Young Award.
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Speaker 3: And why I voted for none other than Trek Scuobel,
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Speaker 3: And it ultimately was not that hard of a decision.
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Speaker 3: There were times throughout the year kind of I don't know,
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Speaker 3: probably early July ish, where I was like, man, this
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Speaker 3: could get dicey, this could get tough, because you had
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Speaker 3: Crochet Hunter Brown pitching very well, you had Nathan Eavaldi
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Speaker 3: rocking a super low era, and I was like, I mean,
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Speaker 3: Schoobol always kind of had the edge, but there were
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Speaker 3: points in the year where it was like, this might
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Speaker 3: be a dicey vote, And then you look up at
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Speaker 3: the end of the year and Schoobol led leaps and
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Speaker 3: bounds in most of the categories I deem most valuable.
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Speaker 3: If we just go on fan grabs, look at Winds
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Speaker 3: above replacement, he's at six point six. The next closest
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Speaker 3: is Crochet at five point eight, so almost a full
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Speaker 3: war difference. He's got the best era at two point
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Speaker 3: two Toy one. He only slightly trails Crochet in strikeouts
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Speaker 3: the innings he's actually fourth. Crochet did have more innings,
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Speaker 3: but it's not like he's a far cry. There's a
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Speaker 3: ten inning difference between them, all the underlying metrics check
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Speaker 3: out his team got into the playoffs. I thought the
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Speaker 3: hierarchy of cy young candidates was pretty clear. Scooble one,
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Speaker 3: Crochet two. I voted Hunter Brown third. You know, you
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Speaker 3: could argue, maybe Max Freed, maybe someone else gets a
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Speaker 3: little more dice. He towards the bottom of the top
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Speaker 3: five there. But Scooble to me, was a clear number one.
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Speaker 3: Crochet was a clear number two. But I feel very
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Speaker 3: confident and comfortable in the vote. It wasn't that tough decision.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was one that I felt good about.
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Speaker 1: The entire season and the worthy candidates that you just
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Speaker 1: discussed there is obviously, you know, worth worth mentioning too,
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Speaker 1: So I don't want to dismiss like the seasons that
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Speaker 1: they had. But school Bill felt like an a one
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Speaker 1: from Jump Street and all the way through. And I
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Speaker 1: know playoffs aren't part of the voting. I understand all
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Speaker 1: of that, but it does feel right when a guy
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Speaker 1: goes out there and shoves in the playoffs and then
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Speaker 1: a month later he gets announced the award winner. So
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Speaker 1: it's just symmetrically it lines up for me, and just
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Speaker 1: to kind of compare the two seasons, Cody, I'll just
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Speaker 1: rattle off some numbers. He was a higher war in
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Speaker 1: twenty five than twenty four. He had obviously the shutouts
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Speaker 1: that zero to one, so that's that's good for him.
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Speaker 1: He pitched more innings, He had thirteen more strikeouts than
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. His ERA plus was one a seven
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Speaker 1: compared to one seventy four. He had a lower FIP
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Speaker 1: and his strikeouts per nine it was six point five
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Speaker 1: one in twenty twenty four seven point three in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five. If you're watching on YouTube, have some other
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Speaker 1: comparisons here, just a remarkable season. Fastball vlo up with
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Speaker 1: rate up. This guy was a triple Crown pitcher in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and across the board he got better.
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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to correct the record. I said
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Speaker 1: the K through nine as it was eleven point one.
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Speaker 1: His strikeout to base on ball ratio was seven point three,
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Speaker 1: so I just wanted to correct the record on that.
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Speaker 1: So he struck out more at a rate than he walked.
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Speaker 1: And of course he was an All star. Of course
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Speaker 1: he was the All Star starter, and there was you know,
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Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, all right, he's still relatively new to
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Speaker 1: this level of excellence. Is this something he's going to
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Speaker 1: be able to keep up? And he didn't just keep
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Speaker 1: it up, he upped the ante and for that, like
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Speaker 1: it's a simple decision in my.
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Speaker 2: Book, right.
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Speaker 3: I mean that we talked about it at points throughout
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Speaker 3: the season, but that was really the most remarkable thing
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Speaker 3: about this year was watching Trek Scooble, day in and
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Speaker 3: day out, continue to look like just one of the
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Speaker 3: most complete pitchers on the planet and get even better
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Speaker 3: after a pitching triple Crown season. To have a better yarra,
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Speaker 3: to strike out more guys, to throw harder, more whiffs
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Speaker 3: with the change up almost every notable category, more first
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Speaker 3: pitch strikes. He just kept improving kind of around the
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Speaker 3: finer parts of his game, and those of us who
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Speaker 3: watch it, whether one person on TV, he commands the game.
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Speaker 3: He has the presence you want on the mound. He
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Speaker 3: he is in control when he steps on there. That's
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Speaker 3: something kind of that intangible quality that you're looking for
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Speaker 3: in an A Schooble has it as much as anyone
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Speaker 3: in today's game. We're gonna be talking about his future
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Speaker 3: all off season, but I think he has all the
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Speaker 3: makings that if he stays healthy, he's going to continue
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Speaker 3: to be in these conversations year and in year out
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Speaker 3: because he has premium stuff, he has premium command, He's
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Speaker 3: proven he can be durable. Like it's hard to see
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Speaker 3: anything outside of injuries slowing down trek Scouble in the
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Speaker 3: next several years.
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Speaker 1: So I'm a big guy about visiting the Baseball Savant
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Speaker 1: page and the percentileent rankings. I'm fascinated by him. I
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Speaker 1: love looking at him. Admittedly, I never really went to
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Speaker 1: Schooble's page because it's like, what is it? Or I
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Speaker 1: know it's all top not, so like I don't remember
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Speaker 1: the last time I went to his page. I'm just
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Speaker 1: going to kind of read off some of this stuff
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Speaker 1: because it is kind of funny. Just it shows you
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Speaker 1: how leak the percentile rankings, it's like all red. It's
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Speaker 1: like all red, dude, pitching run value one hundred percent,
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Speaker 1: tile fastball run value ninety eight percent, tile breaking run
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Speaker 1: value eighty percent. Tile that's low by his standard, Austin
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Speaker 1: run value one hundred percent, tile expected era ninety five percent,
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Speaker 1: tile expected ballue average eighty six percent, tile fastball below
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Speaker 1: ninety one average exit bloody velocity ninety seven, chase percentage
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Speaker 1: ninety seven with ninety two K percentage ninety four, based
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Speaker 1: on ball percentage ninety seven, hard hit percentage ninety five.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. And you guys can see this
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Speaker 2: on YouTube. It is video game stuff.
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Speaker 1: Actually, if you tried to do like the my player
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Speaker 1: mode wrote to the show, you know how long it
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Speaker 1: would take you to get these accolades?
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Speaker 3: Dude, it'd be tough to do every single one of those.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like so like you talk about complete picture, you talk
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Speaker 1: about complete command. I went back and looked he you know,
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Speaker 1: he threw his change up thirty one percent of the
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Speaker 1: time if you look at you know, the fun Grass
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Speaker 1: like it was the first time in a couple of
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Speaker 1: years that he hadn't thrown the fast all the majority
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Speaker 1: of the time. So he was actually a I don't
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Speaker 1: wanst say a different picture, but he after having the
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Speaker 1: year he had last year, he's still evolved his game.
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Speaker 1: He's still adjusted and you know, as the league adjusted
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Speaker 1: to him, and he was still better than.
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Speaker 2: Everybody else.
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Speaker 1: And I think this is the way I look at
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Speaker 1: Terrek Schooble, Like if I were to just kind of
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Speaker 1: describe what's it like to watch him. I would say, look,
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Speaker 1: if you're not at the game, you're running errands, you're cooking,
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Speaker 1: you're you know, doing other stuff while you have the
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Speaker 1: game on, there are certain points that you just can't
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Speaker 1: be in front of the TV. You got stuff to do,
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Speaker 1: you got kids, you got this that the other thing
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Speaker 1: Schooble is one of the rare starting pitchers, that it's
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Speaker 1: actually a more enjoyable and important experience to watch him
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Speaker 1: than what it would be the possibility to see your
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Speaker 1: team score runs. I think that that's how I kind
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Speaker 1: of look at like the Terrork Schooble experience. You don't
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Speaker 1: want to miss a single pitch because at any point
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Speaker 1: he could dazzle you with the changeup. He could get
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Speaker 1: you get top one hundred, you could see, you know,
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Speaker 1: the emotional aspect of it at the end of the ending.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to even times that he fails, like
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Speaker 1: he gives up a home run and you're like, he's
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Speaker 1: coming in with gas and this is almost a guaranteed
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Speaker 1: strikeout right here, because he does not. He's so competitive,
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Speaker 1: he's already dialed in. But you get you scratch a
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Speaker 1: run off him, he's going to be even more dialed in.
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Speaker 1: So that's the Trek Schoogle experience to me, and I
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Speaker 1: think that's something that everybody can relate to. He's just
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Speaker 1: you just can't take your eyes off him when he's
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Speaker 1: when he's on the mound, it's it's truly special to watch.
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Speaker 3: And you're gonna have Yeah, I mean, times have you
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Speaker 3: done this this year? I got nothing else to say,
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Speaker 3: got at all nothing left to say about Trek Scooble.
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Speaker 3: Really good picture man, very deserving of this award. And
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Speaker 3: then the history of it, the first back to back
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Speaker 3: Ale winner since Pedro Martinez in nineteen ninety nine and
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Speaker 3: two thousand, a reminder that it's not easy to do,
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Speaker 3: even if you are one of the very best in
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Speaker 3: the game.
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Speaker 1: And there's a couple other historical novelties to this win
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Speaker 1: The list of guys that have won the cy Young
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Speaker 1: back to back is a who's who of some of
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Speaker 1: the you know, obviously the best pictures in the history
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Speaker 1: of baseball. So you mentioned uh, Pedro Martinez among the
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Speaker 1: lists and these are both leagues obviously, Yeah, Jacob deGrom,
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Speaker 1: Max Schurzer ever heard of him? Clayton Kershaw ever heard
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Speaker 1: of him? Tim Lissicum, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens. Right by
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Speaker 1: the way, Randy Johnson went one.
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Speaker 2: Four in a row.
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Speaker 1: Can we just like take a pause for a second
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Speaker 1: and just think how ridiculous that is? Uh and uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: So like it's it's a who's who of some of
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Speaker 1: the best pitchers in baseball. And then there's another novelty
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Speaker 1: of this. Oh, by the way, Denny McClain as well.
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Speaker 1: So Tiger's connection there won it back to back. Here's
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Speaker 1: there's also a novelty to this, Cody, and that is
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Speaker 1: that Tek Skoubol had thirteen wins this year, only thirteen wins.
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Speaker 1: I know you're big wins guy, Cody. So I wanted
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Speaker 1: to I wanted to bring that to your attention. U.
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Speaker 2: So, how how rare is that? Well?
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Speaker 1: Robbie Ray in twenty twenty one won it with twenty
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Speaker 1: one wins, or excuse me two twenty one with thirteen wins.
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Speaker 1: Got lot of numbers on my screen right now. And
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Speaker 1: of course the famous Felix Hernandez thirteen and twelve year
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Speaker 1: that was in twenty ten and he got like a
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Speaker 1: stripe shortened seasons are in there as well COVID season.
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Speaker 1: Other than that, fourteen fifteen is kind of the threshold.
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Speaker 1: Schoogle did have eighteen wins in twenty twenty four, so
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Speaker 1: kudos to everybody for realizing that thirteen wins is not
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Speaker 1: a disqualifier when terror schoogl Is is shoving like he
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Speaker 1: did and still got the uh still still got the
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Speaker 1: cy Young Award. I'm sure he I'm sure he did
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Speaker 1: not receive some votes because of that, but it wasn't
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Speaker 1: enough to overcome common sense.
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Speaker 3: I know at least one esteemed writer who did not
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Speaker 3: vote for him for the local chapter Tiger of the
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Speaker 3: Year because he did not have enough wins, to which
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Speaker 3: I laughed at. It is twenty twenty five. I could
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Speaker 3: care less how many wins he had. He threw one
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Speaker 3: hundred ninety five innings. The Tigers were twenty one and
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Speaker 3: ten in his starts. It's not like there was any
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Speaker 3: sort of issue about Trek Scooble helping his team win
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Speaker 3: baseball games. There were a number of starts, especially it
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Speaker 3: seems like early in the seaon late in the season two,
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Speaker 3: where he was not getting adequate run support or games
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Speaker 3: were coming down to the late innings, so that kind
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Speaker 3: of explains why it's only thirteen. I don't think that
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Speaker 3: means anything. I don't really think that factors into the
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Speaker 3: minds of the majority of modern voters.
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Speaker 1: I have no problems taking my reputation ever much that
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Speaker 1: it is worth and say that Trek Schoogle is a
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Speaker 1: quote winner and if thirteen wins is not your forte,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We just can't really agree on that because
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna be able to connect there.
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Speaker 1: And I guess it is fair Cody for us to
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Speaker 1: bring in the whole offseason discussion here for a second.
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Speaker 2: That is that is I mean, it.
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Speaker 1: Is the story of baseball this offseason, So that is
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Speaker 1: that is something of note. I was gonna say, it's
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Speaker 1: pretty cool, but at the same time, it's not cool.
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Speaker 1: But regardless, the latest report that we have is that
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Speaker 1: it's unlikely from our new colleague at foul Territory, unlikely
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Speaker 1: that he will be dealt before the season. That's Bob
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Speaker 1: Nightingale put that out there. So that kind of aligns
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Speaker 1: with what my gut tells me. Obviously, I don't have
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Speaker 1: sources or reporting or anything like that, but it just
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Speaker 1: aligns what my gut tells me is that the the
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Speaker 1: likelihood that he gets dealt going into the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: six season feels slim. That's how That's where I'm at
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Speaker 1: right now, and apparently that's where the general baseball consensus is.
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Speaker 2: So there you go, there's you up there.
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Speaker 3: The it does seem to be this since in recent days.
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Speaker 3: I will just say this offseason is very young. I
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Speaker 3: don't think we know obviously it's going to take a
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Speaker 3: haul for the Tigers to move Trek's Schooble. I think
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Speaker 3: that's kind of the important thing here. The great blessing
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Speaker 3: for the Tigers is they are in the driver's seat.
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Speaker 3: They have all the control here. They do not have
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Speaker 3: to move him if another team blows them away, if
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Speaker 3: there's another team willing to lay it on the line,
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Speaker 3: give up prize young players to go get the best
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Speaker 3: pitcher in the game. The Tigers have to listen, and
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Speaker 3: they've kind of expressed through not saying otherwise that they
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Speaker 3: are open to listening. But for a deal to actually happen,
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Speaker 3: I think it would take something almost out of the
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Speaker 3: norm in terms of how good their return would be
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Speaker 3: for a one year rental. Until we have something more tangible.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I have anything else new to say
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Speaker 3: about it, but I think that is important to remember
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Speaker 3: that the Tigers have the leverage, they have the control here,
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Speaker 3: despite how bad it would be if they keep them
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Speaker 3: and then things don't go right and they have to
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Speaker 3: move them at the deadline or they don't they just
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Speaker 3: don't win the World Series and all they give is
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Speaker 3: a draft pick. As it stands right now in November,
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Speaker 3: the Tigers are under no real pressure to move him
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Speaker 3: just for the sake of moving him.
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Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, Deadlines make deals, pressure makes diamonds, all those puns,
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Speaker 1: there is nothing. I'm sure if Scott were on the
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Speaker 1: podcast right now, Scott Harris, he would say some sort
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Speaker 1: of cliche about how he's got a long list of
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Speaker 1: things that he's got to figure out to try to
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Speaker 1: make this team, you know, get further in the playoffs
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and trading Schoogle or even that possibility isn't
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Speaker 1: even on the list. You'd probably say some cliche like that.
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Speaker 1: Because there is some more press.
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Speaker 3: You would probably just not comment on it.
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Speaker 2: But right it's a little bit of true serum.
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Speaker 1: I do believe it's probably like really low down the
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Speaker 1: list on things that there are definitely more pressing Matt
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Speaker 1: to improve in this team, and one of them I
17:02
Speaker 1: just want to spend This is a school episode, but
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Speaker 1: I do want to spend just a little bit of
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Speaker 1: time on this Cody because it's a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a continuation of the last time we talked.
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Speaker 2: And you know, Glabor.
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Speaker 1: Torres, as everybody knows, he had the qualifying off or
17:14
Speaker 1: just over twenty two million. He it seems like his
17:18
Speaker 1: representatives are busy at work trying to figure out what
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Speaker 1: kind of market would be there for him, and and
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Speaker 1: you know that will probably influence his decision as much
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Speaker 1: as anything else. John Hayman put out there that you know,
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Speaker 1: a reasonable contract that could be expected for labor just
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Speaker 1: in general would be like a three year, forty five
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Speaker 1: million dollar deal. Keep in mind, he just you know,
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Speaker 1: completed a one year fifteen million dollar deal, so basically
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Speaker 1: the same contract just over three years. And when I
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Speaker 1: saw that out there, I had two thoughts.
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Speaker 2: One, that's all it takes to make lay happy.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm a post the Tigers doing three
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Speaker 1: for forty five for labor tours and doing what we
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Speaker 1: talked about last week is just kind of figure, you know,
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Speaker 1: the rest of your team out and two if that's
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Speaker 1: the best that you're expected to be or get.
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Speaker 2: I should say.
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Speaker 1: I kind of like the idea of making twenty two
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Speaker 1: million in twenty twenty six and then and then because
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Speaker 1: that forty that difference of nineteen million is going to
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Speaker 1: be out there in some fashion next year. Like costs
18:31
Speaker 1: go up, inflation, salaries always go up. Like I I
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Speaker 1: just feel like that actually seems like a more reasonable
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Speaker 1: thing for him to do than I previously thought. Three
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Speaker 1: for forty five is all you're gonna get offered by.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to insult any other teams,
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Speaker 1: but like a non contending squad, perhaps I think I'm
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Speaker 1: just taking the qualifying offer.
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Speaker 2: So that's my.
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Speaker 3: Opinion that continues how to be how I feel. I
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Speaker 3: think if I were labor Toars his agent, I think
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Speaker 3: I'd be saying, hey, buddy, let's take that qualifying offer,
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Speaker 3: get you another chance to get paid a year from now,
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Speaker 3: because yeah, in what world is he worth less next offseason?
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Speaker 3: He'd be a year older, of course, and we know
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Speaker 3: his defense is concerned, but he'd have to have a
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Speaker 3: really bad year to not be able to get three
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Speaker 3: for forty five a year from now, whereas he has
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Speaker 3: the chance to if he can avoid getting hurt in
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Speaker 3: the second half of the season like he did this year,
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Speaker 3: but playing through injury, he has a chance to raise
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Speaker 3: the ceiling on that deal. I understand why his agents
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Speaker 3: would want to kind of poke around and see what
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Speaker 3: the market is going to be. But yeah, unless there's
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Speaker 3: a suitor who just loves him and his profile, and
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Speaker 3: he does take a lot of walks and he does
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Speaker 3: have a great approach. But if no one gave him
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Speaker 3: that last year, is anyone getting gave him that this year?
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Speaker 3: I think he'd take the qualifying offer, try to put
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Speaker 3: together a full season playing at like that first half
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Speaker 3: level glabor, maybe even see if he can tap into
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Speaker 3: a little bit more power. Like he's never gonna be
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Speaker 3: the thirty eight guy. Homer thirty eight homer guy he
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Speaker 3: was early in his career with the Yankees, But this
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Speaker 3: guy's pretty good at the plate. I think there could
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Speaker 3: be maybe even a little more in there at the plate.
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Speaker 3: I guess my my feelings are pretty well known on this.
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Speaker 3: We'll see what glaber Tour is and his representatives ultimately
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Speaker 3: choose to do.
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Speaker 1: And again I've said it before, but we're gonna do
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Speaker 1: more GM meeting reactions on our next episode. We wanted
20:26
Speaker 1: to make this, like again, primarily a Schooble episode. So
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Speaker 1: but it's just the way the Tigers talk about glabor
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Speaker 1: tours is not a guy that they're like eager to
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Speaker 1: see walk out the door. So I always kind of
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Speaker 1: keep that in the back of my mind when I
20:39
Speaker 1: think about how this.
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Speaker 2: Could play out.
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Speaker 1: And again, if three for forty five is a little costs,
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Speaker 1: I mean I think I think you could probably figure
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Speaker 1: that out and structure that in a way that everybody's happy.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I still want to know if they would
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Speaker 3: pursue another premiere bat if they're paying glabor tours, especially
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Speaker 3: on a multi year deal, that'd be two multi year
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Speaker 3: deals in your infield. I'm a little frightened that they
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Speaker 3: would not be willing to do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And also Glaber's probably mean the longer you wait.
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Speaker 1: I know there's a deadline, but like the longer you
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Speaker 1: wait that three for forty five feels like an early
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Speaker 1: offseason number to me just in general as well and
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Speaker 1: as opposed to like a mid January I.
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Speaker 3: Think it's about right. I think that's about the floor
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Speaker 3: at most. Maybe someone would give him three for sixty.
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Speaker 3: I don't that meshes with my read on his market
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Speaker 3: for sure.
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Speaker 1: All Right, Like I said, we'll recap GM meetings all
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Speaker 1: the interesting thoughts and nuggets. They're starting to trickle out.
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Speaker 1: This Torres example be an example of that later this week.
21:43
Speaker 1: But we wanted to kind of give this historic moment
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Speaker 1: it's just due and so congratuatoric school to Gratch to
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Speaker 1: his family. Also, I wanted to say Happy Belated Veterans
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Speaker 1: Day to all the veterans out there and their families.
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Speaker 1: Hoybe you had a lovely time and and feel appreciated
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Speaker 1: because this nation does appreciate you. So I just want
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Speaker 1: to say that as well, so for coach David Hagen.
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Speaker 1: I am Kern Steckley. Everybody have a great thing.