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ANALYZING YOU AND YOUR KINK - THANKS A LOT, MOM! · CALL ME MISTRESS

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Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
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I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia. We've got with me, Madam Liv.
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Morning. Good morning, Liv.
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How are you? Better are you?
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Better. I hope so.
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What a base, I love it. On them drugs and that's
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supposed to be on. They weren't making beer.
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Chip, Chip Cheerio. They were not making her field
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chip chip, nothing, no. That was I was really opposite.
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That was Chip chipping away poor Madam Liv.
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All right. And we got over in the left
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corner. Poop, poop, poop, poop.
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Little poop. Hiya folks.
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Well guys, we have had an exciting weekend.
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We had 4th of July and now we're going into the second week of
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July. Where is the summer gone?
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This summer have fucking just vanished.
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It has slipped away. I don't like it.
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I don't know either. It's gone way too fast.
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When you get older, time feels like that.
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The year passes so fast. I don't know, my summers usually
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go pretty darn slow because I'm not doing a whole lot.
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I guess it's 'cause you're. Having fun.
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That's exactly what it is. Party hard.
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You'll stop being so fun so it slows down.
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God, in that the tree. Sometimes.
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Even when you are boring, you are fun.
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Come on. All right, think about this.
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What was probably your fun year? Your, your absolute best year,
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you think in your life stuff so far?
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I mean, we're, we're in our 30s forties now.
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Let's think about that. I can honestly say when I was
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21, I probably did so much that year that it was insane.
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I was, I was doing 2 jobs. I was going out every night of
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the week when there wasn't something to do.
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I was still trying to do something that night like it was
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rarely and I I ever stayed at home.
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Last year, because I've been hindranced when I was younger, I
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didn't move out until I was 17 or I moved out early 17 and then
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got married right after. Never go out.
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Like he was very conservative. And then when we, yeah, when we
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get finally got, you know, separated and divorced two years
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in, the first year was rough. For the second year I was doing
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whatever I wanted and it was really nice to just finally let
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it go. So he's last year.
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Yeah. I love my childhood, like bits
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and pieces of it, like going around the block, playing
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basketball, riding my scooter, like I liked all that.
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Mr. Kool-aid Pillows. Yeah.
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That's why I found that that bulb, you know I never let go.
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PO what do you say is your best year?
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I'm not trying to be a kiss ass here, but it's definitely been
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this year. Wow, that's.
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Great. There's something about being
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amongst like minded people and what's that?
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The mind, freedom. It is it is and just being able
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to be your true authentic self, not having a mask constantly not
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try to make up excuses for you know, I can't do that because
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I'm going to a dungeon and gonna get beat.
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You know something that nature it's a little hard to explain to
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you vanilla friends that so you have to wind up, you know,
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making up some halfway truths. And so like I said, this year is
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been forget awesome. I'm glad I learned a lot about
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myself. I'm glad we're glad we met you.
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Very. And don't vanilla friends just
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suck? Yeah, I really is how boring
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they are. Really and truly.
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Like you have a stale life. See, I don't, I, I don't even
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mind like if they're vanilla and their behavior, it's when they
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have vanilla like judgements, if that makes sense.
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Like I you don't have to be into the same thing that I'm into,
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but you can't listen to my story.
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And if you're not like you can find something to laugh about.
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You can find something to find joy in it and like, and, but
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when they're just like, I only want to hear that, Oh, that,
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that's just great. It's just like.
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My sister. Doesn't want to hear open your
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perspective a little bit because I'm not asking you to join in.
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I'm just want to tell you my experience and part of my life
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story. I know, Liv.
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I had, I had asked you something one day and you you called me
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and you were like, yeah, you know, I tried to talk to my
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sister and try to tell her about my really cool scene, but she
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didn't want to hear it. She called me gross.
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I was like, damn, fuck her. Yeah.
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She she said that I gave her an unsolicited Dick pic because I
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was showing her sounding and I really am so desensitized by
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Dick that I didn't think that was a bad thing.
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I thought she was upset that I sent her a picture of a rod
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inside of a Dick. OK, but she was like, no,
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Christina, you just sent me an unsolicited Dick pic.
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I was like, ohh, I forgot that. That's like a no no.
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I didn't even see a Dick, I just saw her rod in something.
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Yeah, I wasn't even thinking that way, but she knows what I
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do, so I just didn't think it was that big of a deal.
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And we send each other our boyfriends Dicks.
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Like, look how big? That's what.
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I well obviously she solicited to that one.
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Yeah, I'm saying it's it's so it's selective, I guess.
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Yeah, selective on her Dicks. You know, it's a part of the
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human anatomy. Yeah, but when you stick needles
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and rods through it, you know but.
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She's not even that interested in sex.
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So, like, what the fuck does it matter?
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Yeah, my sister, my eldest sister.
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I I will tell you, she used to. And she's been married to her
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gay husband still to this day for almost 40 years.
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And they used to have a set day every week on a Tuesday to have
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sex. And that was it.
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They both worked, you know, numerous jobs.
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They raised, you know, five children together.
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They had a very full, active life.
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However, it should have been an indicator that he was a very
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sterile, clean man and that he wanted sex only one night a
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week. Right?
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OK, that is. Gay.
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If she should have realized that my thing of it is I have tried
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to have a conversation with her because she feels it necessary
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to kiss ass to my aunt and tell my aunt on some level what she
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thinks I do right. And my aunt is highly religious,
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my sister is highly religious and it's always fucking
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religion. And it's just, it's mind numbing
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like nobody gives a fuck. I really I don't care.
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But at the end of the day, when they both have called me to
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criticize me about what they think I do right, they
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automatically think that I'm just this horrible person on so
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many levels. But interested of your job.
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Yes. That's so weird.
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It is, and the fact that I talk about it on the podcast.
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Yeah, no, I've I've. Just to each their own, you
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know, if you're as long as you're not hurting yourself or
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nobody else, why does it? Matter.
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Why isn't? It it's just the misconceptions
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that people have like they think, Oh, don't like having
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you're going there. Well, like, for example, if
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they're very, you know, religious, they automatically
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think, Oh, that that has something to do with the devil.
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Or I mean, like, I, I've heard it so many times and to the
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point where I just go, I don't know, maybe it's the, you know,
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the, yeah, the worst, best choice you'll ever make, you
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know, highway to hell, babe. You know, I don't, I don't know
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what to, what to tell you. Because when they have that
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exactly, they have that mindset, there's nothing that I can say
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to to alter that mindset. So I don't even really know why
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they're telling me their mindset at that point.
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Because you know, you're not wanting to have a conversation
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and to look at it from my point, even though I will have the
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conversation and I can look at it from your point, you're not
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going to give me the same courtesy.
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But why even have that conversation?
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That's why I only like understanding people.
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You don't have to be part of the dungeon, but you can be
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understanding it. Sure.
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What's the word? You know, caring.
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Or like what's compassionate? Compassionate.
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Empathetic. Yeah.
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Yeah, compassion to other people and their feelings.
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Just well, interestingly enough, we'd all gone out to dinner.
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Liv was there, everybody was there.
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My eldest sister actually listened to me tell my niece, my
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eldest niece about specifically two people that I've seen in the
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dungeon. And I was like 1 was very much
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suicidal before we met. That's it.
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He had a very difficult life and you know, he wants to cross
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dress and it was not accepted by his wife.
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This is something, you know, I've, I've known, I've helped
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him. It's been many years that he's
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continue to see me. And so that doesn't make me a
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bad person at all. And then there was another
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gentleman. I, I told her, I said, you will
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not think that you know the guy next door or the uncle or your
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boss or people who are really like into BDSM and they had this
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kink. You'd never think that they were
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a crossdresser or they were in into spanking or it's just
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something, something specific I said because everybody's into
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something I said. It doesn't make them a bad
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person. And believe it or not, my eldest
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sister was actually sitting there intently, listening
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intently. It's crazy.
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And I told my niece, I said, you know, I got the nicest e-mail a
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few months ago. And I said it was very direct to
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say, hey, Mia, I really, truly appreciate everything you've
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ever done for me. I love you.
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You're the best. You don't believe.
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You won't believe how much this has helped me in my life.
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We get emails like that all. The time, all the time.
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I've sent a few of those emails so.
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You will PO. You will because you guide
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people through the fact that you've come here, you opened
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yourself up, you talk about being an adult baby freely and
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comfortably so and then you've talked about being Master Viper,
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just changing it up and. Being you did that beautifully,
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you did. I really appreciate that you
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helped a lot too, because I, I was feeding off of your energy,
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you know, as we were going through it and I was of course
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feeding off of. Everybody in the room.
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Sage is energy, you know, I just all the energy that was going
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through there and like I said it, it just made for a beautiful
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team. Honestly, I couldn't believe how
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well it went, but I do know when I went home, God, I was high
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like hours high like no drug could touch that high.
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That's a good that's a good day Tater.
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You got lost and your thought was great.
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It's great. Now, interestingly enough, a few
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years back, my other sister, now I have two sisters, but my other
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sister moved in. She'd gone through a terrible
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divorce and she'd really struggled with a lot because
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ultimately I knew the relationship that she had with
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her, with her husband and he was very much kind of like he would
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top her. And I think really he's more of
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submissive and more or less wants to be objectified in the
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fact that she's very much submissive.
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And I didn't really want to see it because with me, I like to be
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surrounded by women who want to be dominant.
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Females find empowerment. But I should have known because
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in real life, my sister is a bitch.
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She's a miserable bitch at times.
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And in turn, I love her. It doesn't change anything,
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right? But I saw her at a party.
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She came to a party and she was one of your parties, Yes.
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And she was dating a very much much older man who was almost
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70, and my sister at the time was probably 50.
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OK, that's a. That's a big.
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That's a daddy gap. Like a generational gap like.
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Yes, that's a daddy gap. And I told her I said look, he's
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he's a daddy gap. I figured out.
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Never heard that term before. I like it, I just.
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Came up with that poem that was right off the fucking.
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Right off the Dome I love. It right off the Dome because
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right now I have a Mama gap going on with one of my Subs and
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that's OK, I'm lobby. I'm sorry Mommy Gap has a
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totally different image in my head to the Daddy Gap.
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Daddy gap. I'm thinking like this is where
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the older generation that like went to the gap store when they
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become dads this is where they go to shop Mommy gap.
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Thinking about their gap in between the.
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Legs. Yeah, instead of JJ.
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Oh my. God go straight to such a man.
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I'm talking gap in age you fucking crap.
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Not the God damn gap story either, or fucking pussy.
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Oh, I just want to fall into the gap.
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Please let me do. It oh the double teaming me I
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love. It.
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Fantasies become reality. But.
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I'm so sorry. Anyway, back to the daddy gap.
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My sister really loved the concept of wanting to have an
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older man objectifier and he did.
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He was just like grabbing her ass and pulling up her skirt and
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treating her like a little girl dirty whore.
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And I was like, oh, you know, I was like, oh God, you know, you
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don't want to see your older sister that way because I want
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the empowered bitch that I know, like fucking bitch.
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Put him in a skydam place. Don't let this old man grope
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you. It's gross.
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And he's not even attractive. Like give me a sexy older man.
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Let. Let's think of a silver fox.
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Silver. Fox Fuck yeah.
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He's not even that. I don't think he's that old.
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Actually, he's in his. 60s, right?
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I mean, for me, that's a big gap.
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He's basically, but he's very attractive.
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He's a very attractive guy. But then you take somebody I'm
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thinking of like a celebrity, like I'm.
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I'm just saying. James Brolin, Clint Eastwood.
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Oh, God. Sylvester Stallone, you tell me.
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Sylvester Stallone wants to fuck George Clooney.
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No, fuck George Clooney. It's my I ask you your opinion.
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But Sylvester Stallone, trust me, I would.
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Fuck, it would be yes. Sylvester Stallone started off
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in his career doing a porn called The Italian Stallion
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because he has a big monster cock.
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So you only like. Him for his Dick?
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No, he's a beautiful fucking man.
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And you know what else I love about him?
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I know he's got to be submissive because his mommy was a fucking
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cunt to him his entire life. She was horrible to him.
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She wished that he would never been born.
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Terrible. And he was beautiful.
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God, he was beautiful in his 20s with his dark fucking hair.
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Sexy ass Italian. I love fucking Italian men.
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I don't care their age, he is a gorgeous fucking man.
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And anyway, he. Aged well, he.
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Goes to the fucking gym. He's still ripped God, and he's
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still got that monster cock. I'm sorry, Liv, sorry about
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that. But I've never seen the monster
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cock I've. Been looking for fucking Italian
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Stallion if I ever find that. Man we need to look for that.
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Look for a. I'm on the search.
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I'm on that. Fucking porn right there.
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I'm going to see some Italian Stallion.
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Sly Dick. That's what I want.
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OK all. Right.
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When's your birthday? All right.
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Just saying I have a deadline. Couple days before Valentine's.
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That's what I want. Italians dead.
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Yeah, OK. But anyway, I see my two sisters
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and what they want sexually, and it's like, I don't want to, you
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know, me, I don't really want to read into people about what they
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really like sexually. I really don't.
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But it's just a dead giveaway. Like both of them are very much
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submissive. And it's like, you know, right.
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Because in real life they're fucking bitches.
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Like they're mean, bitter, they're fucking bitches and they
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want some man, like, take charge and, you know, do whatever
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they're gonna do. That's your sister.
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Yes. See.
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Yeah. Hang.
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On. Yeah.
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And she's, like, really hardcore.
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I can do whatever what I want. I can beat you up.
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Yeah, You know, she's in charge all the time.
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But yes, she definitely likes men that will put her in her
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place but then doesn't want to be put in her place.
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This. Yeah, she's struggling with it
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because then you said she was dating these guys and she would
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stop having sex with them when she was in a relationship with
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them. She was more dating submissive
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men then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she likes that
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control. But in actuality, she needs an
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equal yes, who will pull her fucking hair, ram it in her,
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push her face, stop it and tell her to shut the fuck up?
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That's my tummy hurt. Hurt because a big Dick is in
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it. Ohh I love my life.
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Can you blame me? No, no, not at.
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All I'm telling you, you get a fucking visual.
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It's. Great, I love it.
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Lily she gets sends me pictures to show me I guess makes her
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feel better to be told she's beautiful when she's in sexy
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poses and I don't mind it. I love editing her pictures for
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her, but I'm thinking about those pictures when you said
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that. They're like, now you know, now
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you know. She wants a Dom male.
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Oh yeah, I know she does. But she can't because she wants
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the control too. She wants the control too, yeah.
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Wants her cake. Need it too.
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So someone that we know, she asked me yesterday to really go
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into analyzing her yes, naming nameless and my thing of it is
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again, I don't like analyzing people, but she insisted no, I
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don't. I like analyzing my friends like
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that, you know, unless they really unless they ask me PO
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seriously. And so I broke it down for did I
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not you? Did a beautiful job.
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OK, so I also broke something else down for someone else.
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He grew up with an extremely physically abusive father.
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We're just gonna say pink panties, OK?
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Pink panties, yes. So pink panties, OK?
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Pink panties I get the pink Panthers long stuck in my head.
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I got such a little boy thought he can't when he hears pink
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panties he thinks of Pink Panther, not actual a person in
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fucking pink panties. I.
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Am a little you. Are.
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Teapot. But I'm tall and stout.
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But anyway, so pink panties, he asked me to analyze them.
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He's like, you know, you're always on the podcast, you
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analyze people. I said, let's break this down.
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I said, OK, well, here's the thing.
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When I ever meet anybody who has had a physical abusive father,
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they always want to do a scene where you make them cry, OK?
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And it wasn't him. I would.
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I'll get them to that point. He will get there.
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Trust me about that. We can come back to that.
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OK, which part? The making you cry in the scene.
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The making you cry in the scene. OK, so years ago, I had this
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this one gentleman came and he said that he literally watched
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his father kill his mother and it devastated him.
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And he cried so much that he never could cry again.
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He couldn't save her. He couldn't do anything.
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But he watched the 11 years of his life.
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He watched his father abuse his mother.
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And he was always, you know, he was the little kid, He was the
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runt. He couldn't do anything.
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He couldn't fight dad off. And if he did, dad would beat
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the fuck out of him. And on and on and on.
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And So what did he do? Now that he's an adult, he comes
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to the dungeon. He wants to be beat so bad that
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he wants me to make him cry. And I would get him to that
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point and I would punch him and I would hurt him and I would say
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fucking cry your fucking weak little pussy.
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And that's what did it. He wants to feel like his
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mother. He wants to be stepping into his
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mother's shoes, right? No, what he wanted, he wanted to
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be punished because he couldn't save his mother.
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OK, you feel that, right? And so now he goes to troubled
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women who are troubled women in like, bad work environments,
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like strippers or prostitutes. And he wants to save them
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because he was never able to save his mother.
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And so here he ends up going to a Hell's Angels bar in
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California and he walks in and, you know, they share their
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women. That's how that shit works.
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This woman was getting fucked in a bar with these bikers, and he
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goes in and he's in the military and he wants to save her.
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And I'm like, dude, they don't want to be saved when they're
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like that. They have the choice to leave at
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some point. They can get away at some point.
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I mean, I've not been about it. Well, yeah, I can say I had an
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abusive first husband. You know, I can fall back on
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that. But I'm not using it as an
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excuse. I'm just saying there's a point
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where enough is enough and you can only take so much.
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I said you cannot save anybody. I said your mother was in a
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situation maybe she didn't have support from her family.
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Maybe she didn't have, you know, love and support.
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She didn't have something, but there was something in her mind
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where she continued to stay with your father.
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You can never change that. You can never go back.
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So that was that situation. He wanted to cry.
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He wanted to be punished for not saving her.
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Now pink panties was more or less he was given a silver
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spoon. He had a very elaborate.
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Wealthy life growing up as a kid and his dad again beat the fuck
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out of him. He got punished, none of his
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siblings got punished, so forth so on.
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All the siblings, all girls. So a lot of times when boys grow
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up and they watch their sisters get treated like little ladies
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and they get treated better, they're more apt to as adult
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men, thinking that if they're feminized, they'll get the
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treatment and the love and the acceptance they never got as a
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little boy. So that's what happens there.
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Interesting. Then at the same time he was
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seeking refuge and I told him he loves to wear thongs, loves to
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wear thongs. And I said, I'm going to tell
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you that between the ages of 8 to 14, primarily 8 to 12, we
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develop a sexual drive. We see things in a sexual way.
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At some point, I said, in our environment and how we're raised
21:13
and what we're around, people were around structures that into
21:17
how we become adults and what we're sexually turned on by.
21:21
I said, So with your father being abusive, your mother
21:24
condoning it, ultimately, at some point you had to have worn
21:28
her panties or something of hers that was feminine.
21:31
You felt that fabric against your skin.
21:34
You felt the intimacy, the closeness with your mother that
21:36
you weren't getting as a child, and you sought refuge and
21:40
wearing her clothes. He paused.
21:42
And he thought, He thought at some point I didn't know what
21:45
the fuck I was talking about because why should I break this
21:48
apart? And his response was, yeah, when
21:50
I was 8 years old, I started wearing my mom's thongs because
21:54
that's what I did, right? And I'm like, yeah, because your
21:57
mother was not there emotionally for you.
21:59
And when you have a neglectful mother who does not emotionally
22:02
support their children, that's what you get.
22:04
You get some type of adverse effect for when they're adults.
22:08
And this is what they do. And then I also said to him, he
22:14
has the whole cuck fantasy that he will be in a relationship, he
22:18
will be deprived of sex because in his mind, he's not good
22:21
enough for sex. He's not good enough for that
22:23
level of intimacy he had. He thinks lowly of himself.
22:26
Now he projects otherwise. But I can see right through
22:30
that. That's a mask.
22:31
It's a total mask. He doesn't want to get anything
22:33
for himself. He doesn't want to look the
22:36
best. He can look more or less.
22:38
Everything's kind of a routine for him because I've seen him in
22:42
like in the same outfits and they're very few and far
22:45
between. So I'm like, he's not
22:47
materialistic. Therefore he doesn't think he's
22:49
good enough to to get nice things for himself.
22:53
Like he doesn't work alone. It's just like little things
22:56
like that that you see in a person.
22:58
And he had a beard for many years.
23:01
And I always say, and this is not directed at you PO, you do a
23:04
lot of fashionable things. You're very in tune with
23:07
yourself and you like to change things up.
23:09
You have, you have the look on your face like you like, because
23:14
you're very consistent with keeping your hair up and your
23:16
facial hair up and that kind of thing.
23:18
But men that have beards that don't keep up their beards
23:22
right, that don't maintain themselves like they should,
23:25
they're hiding. They're hiding behind that beard
23:27
and it is a mask for them. No, that's a total mask.
23:29
It's a total mask. Bore mine for many years and
23:32
that's, you know, that's what it was.
23:33
It wasn't until I started hanging around 2 beautiful
23:35
ladies that you know, I was like show myself, get my stuff
23:37
looking good and you know, make it where they actually maybe
23:39
want to, you know, they'll get me and hang out with me.
23:45
You're pretty now. I said pretty.
23:48
But I think that a lot of people that listen to the podcast, I
23:52
think a lot of people, whether it's cross dressers or whomever
23:56
in the lifestyle, I think they never want to really address why
23:59
they are who they are. And that is okay.
24:03
If they don't feel like they can come and step to the mic, for
24:06
example, to really feel who they are, then they're not ready,
24:08
right? But pink panties has a long way
24:10
to go. And at this point, he to me and
24:14
I told him, I said, you are inferior to other men.
24:16
He's like, no, I respect man. I said yes, because again, you
24:20
think you're beneath a lot of men.
24:22
That is why you want to use someone like a girlfriend as a
24:27
person that you can live vicariously through that they're
24:30
the ones getting fucked when you can't have it.
24:33
And, and I bent him over fingering his ass.
24:36
I'm doing these things. And let me tell you, he was so
24:39
resistant to getting milk, to getting his prostate milk.
24:42
He fucking loved it. He was shaking.
24:46
He was shaking. But in his mind he's thinking,
24:49
I'm, I'm fucking liking this shit too much.
24:51
Am I fucking bisexual? Am I gay like he was?
24:54
He's like, please don't, please don't, mistress, please don't.
24:57
And I'm like, you really fucking want it.
24:59
I know you do. And it's OK because this is
25:02
without judgement, right? I'm, I'm getting you through
25:05
this. I want him to get through this
25:06
journey right and breakthrough. But he has made excuses for his
25:10
father and he talks about how much he accepts him and that
25:14
he's forgiven him. And then it's over.
25:16
And that's what we do. We do that.
25:18
And I hate to use the word victim, but when we're
25:20
victimized or terrorized by our parents at some point, that is
25:24
what we do as an adult, We excuse it.
25:26
That's what we do. I never did.
25:28
Yeah, but I'm saying you're also not in denial of who you are.
25:32
You've you've come to light with who you are.
25:34
But it's people like poor Pink Panties who is seriously still
25:37
in denial about who he is, what he wants.
25:39
Right, I know I, you know, have defended, you know, my mom and
25:43
like, but it's not AI don't see what she did as being correct
25:47
and being OK. It's just that was part of my
25:50
process to be able to accept and to go.
25:53
I've been carrying this feeling forever and I'm just tired of it
25:57
and I don't you, you did something be it I felt a certain
26:01
way because I'm allowing myself to carry that.
26:03
That was just much easier at some point to go.
26:05
We're all human. We all make mistakes.
26:07
Sucks that it happened then, but it happened and you're not the
26:10
same person now. I see the way you treat the
26:12
grandkids. I see the way you treat other
26:13
people. You know, if you're great to my
26:16
grandparents that you know, live with it like but you know, but
26:18
sometimes you know, you do have to eventually just go.
26:21
I'm tired of that burdensome. Head substance, we carry the
26:24
weight and we're forced to be the one that have forgive yes,
26:28
and that's one thing to face your own feelings in it because
26:30
usually you're suppressing suppressing once you finally
26:32
feel yes, letting them all out. That's a lot on a person.
26:35
And so it's just unfair that we have to go through not only the
26:39
problem and the victimizing and then the finally the releasing
26:43
of it. They don't go through nothing.
26:45
They go through nothing. Actually, sometimes they don't
26:47
even have guilt towards it and you still have to forgive them.
26:49
When they don't have guilt, you're just like, why?
26:51
Because. Selfish people do selfish
26:52
things. That's what happens.
26:54
And I'm at the point where I'm like, I doubt I'll ever even
26:57
confront the subject with her. I don't think she will ever be
27:00
able to acknowledge, accept it, acknowledge it and go.
27:03
And if she does, it would be in a, a strange way, you know, to
27:07
just where. Yeah.
27:08
And so it's just like, no, I don't.
27:10
I don't. I don't need to put myself
27:11
through that either. Then that's just going to give
27:12
me more of that guilt. Yeah.
27:14
And then it's going to do. I like the way you know that
27:16
everything is now. You know, they they are the
27:18
reason why they are because of their parents.
27:20
So can you really fault fault them?
27:23
And then what about their parents?
27:25
How are they? Why were they treated like that?
27:26
It's just like a never ending story.
27:28
It's like, who is the bad guy? Yeah, it's all a cycle.
27:31
Who? Is the bad guy.
27:32
Generational curses. Yes, but that's when Poe is
27:35
going to stop the cycle. That's exactly it.
27:37
That's it. Poe's gonna stop the.
27:38
Cycle. You're starting a whole new
27:40
cycle of something else. No, you're stopping the cycle
27:43
because you're being the best mom you can be.
27:45
I know they're saying. What I have changed might be its
27:49
own trauma in itself. OK.
27:50
Like they were so strict on me that maybe I'm not strict
27:53
enough, you know, like, you know, you go back, you know.
27:56
So it's like, am I hurting them just in a different way?
27:58
I overthink though, so to be. No, it's a very fair, you know,
28:03
question analogy to kind of pose to yourself and go, OK, where is
28:06
that line? I don't want to be this person,
28:09
but I also don't want to be way down here, but let you.
28:12
So yeah, it's a very fine line to walk and.
28:15
If you coddle them and cater to them with material things and
28:19
baby the shit out of them then they're going to be baby
28:22
bitches. You know, or just plan out
28:24
bitches and expect things from people and then they haven't,
28:27
they don't work towards anything.
28:28
They don't try to earn anything. They just want it.
28:31
And that's the obstacle word is when you give them yes, they can
28:35
earn something, they can work towards a goal.
28:37
You can reward that behavior. You know, that's just positive
28:42
reinforcement. That should be every parent's
28:44
ultimate goal. Yeah.
28:46
So one of my friends, they are in the medical field.
28:49
She's a doctor, right? And she has raised two boys, two
28:54
boys that she did not raise as men.
28:57
They have both finished college. They're twins.
28:59
They want to be doctors, but honestly, they're fucking
29:02
bitches. These boys are big, overweight
29:05
Mama's boys won't do their fucking laundry.
29:08
Mama either pays for them to get their laundry done.
29:11
They don't have to work. That's a lot of weight for her
29:13
to hold, too. Oh well, she's a doctor, she can
29:15
afford it. I'm just saying, like to hold
29:17
that weight as a mother that you've grown kids, you have to
29:20
still take care of them. That's a lot.
29:22
Oh, she don't care though. She likes to say.
29:24
She may have that savior complex.
29:26
Dude. It's like I get to step in and
29:29
save the day. Yeah, and she's a fucking
29:31
enabler, and that's what she is. And it's like when I, I'm
29:35
looking at her and I was like, you realize what you're doing.
29:38
You're not raising men, you're raising manchild that these
29:42
manchild people are not going to have productive lives and
29:46
marriages. That's the trauma of herself.
29:48
She needs somebody to constantly be around and needing her.
29:51
But it's her children and it's men children.
29:54
Yes, she's hindering. She doesn't want them to leave
29:56
and go to another wife like she did that.
29:58
That's a trauma on her and it's affecting now her kids.
30:00
That's a good observation. Yes, and so parents.
30:03
Bottom line, they fuck. Every single generation.
30:07
Have you seen the new generation coming out?
30:10
Oh my God, I'm over. Jesus Christ.
30:13
Yes, coddled if we ever went into war.
30:16
We're doomed. We are doomed.
30:18
And you said? I'm serious.
30:22
No, you all had to be like, oh, your oldest child has to go in.
30:25
We're all doomed. Yeah.
30:27
The oldest one is always a little bit weird, like a
30:29
pancake. Your first pancake's always a
30:30
little weird. OK.
30:31
Thank you for for because I was going near the pancakes, but
30:36
it's. Not fluffy.
30:38
Yeah, no, it's not cooked all the burger all the way it's.
30:41
Burnt a little bit in one spot. It's not.
30:44
White circle. I like the analogy.
30:47
All right, so don't raise a pancake.
30:49
Don't raise a pancake was the ass pancake.
30:54
Oh, my goodness. That's been exciting.
30:56
But yeah, you know, it's interesting to analyze people.
30:59
Bottom line now, PO, I will say that I had an adult baby years
31:03
ago that came in his mother was in the lifestyle.
31:06
I knew his mother. I met her a couple times.
31:09
Not I wasn't associated with her in any way.
31:11
But they end up coming to the same party.
31:13
They realized this because they both signed up.
31:15
They both found each other's fat life.
31:17
He made sure that he was in the far corner of the yard and she
31:21
was pretty much in the main house the whole night.
31:23
That's still weird. It's still fucking weird.
31:25
Bottom line, he comes for a session and he is an adult baby.
31:28
OK. And immediately I've had so many
31:31
adult babies say to me, oh, it was nothing about my mom.
31:33
And I'm like, motherfucker, can you look to your left one more
31:37
time and lie to me that it wasn't Mama that created this?
31:41
And so when I met his mother, I automatically new she is a
31:45
selfish fucking cunt right who did not emotionally support her
31:50
child. Boom.
31:51
And now you got somebody who is an adult baby and not that it's
31:55
a bad thing. No at all.
31:57
No, it's not. Period.
31:58
But I think it is important that you do analyze yourself and try
32:01
and figure out why you are that way and then.
32:03
And I told him. That you can't accept yourself
32:05
and you can't accept the behavior, and you're always
32:07
going to think it's taboo and it's so weird.
32:08
Yes. Once I figure it out, that's
32:10
whenever I was able to go. I'm cool.
32:11
Yeah. Usually one of the people around
32:13
you to accept you. Yeah.
32:15
You really want it to be like your family.
32:16
You do, but. Family blood is not always
32:19
thicker. No, but my thing of it is, and
32:22
you know, we talked about this on on a previous episode, we're
32:24
talking about what draws you to Reese Witherspoon just look like
32:27
your mom. You know, we go back and forth
32:29
with these things, right, because of the way our brain
32:31
works. And I know you're very
32:33
analytical. So it's nothing like, you know,
32:35
personal attack. However, this kid, I told him, I
32:39
said, look, if you're going to be like a Norman Bates and still
32:42
going to want the love and support of your Mama that you
32:45
will never get because she's a straight up hoe in the
32:48
community. Oh, there's no way that you're
32:52
not going to be able to you're ever going to really be able to
32:54
connect with your mother just because I've met her.
32:57
I'm she's a very self-centered person.
33:00
It's very difficult to even gauge with her at all because
33:03
she thought she was holier than thou.
33:05
It's like, OK bitch, I get it, you're attractive.
33:07
Shut the fuck up. She had one child If you're if.
33:10
You're not attractive on the inside, it don't fucking matter.
33:13
It doesn't matter, you'll never curse.
33:15
I love it when you do. You know that word.
33:19
She has a point. Exactly.
33:22
But but yeah, but we've had many adult babies and they'll
33:26
automatically say, well, it's nothing.
33:27
My mom did. I'm like OK.
33:31
It's an attention thing. Yes, it is.
33:33
And I, you need to be nurtured, didn't understand that further
33:36
law. And I understand the nurturing
33:37
part, but it is the I am the sole thing that you have to pay
33:41
attention to. Because you're a little not,
33:42
yeah. Right.
33:44
And you have to. Take care of me, yeah.
33:45
I can't be in danger. Of mess there's a lot of things
33:48
that but. Mothers take care of their
33:50
children like that. That is a mother thing that you
33:52
would be searching for, right? Right.
33:54
I mean there are people that search for daddies.
33:56
I mean, I think it's all according to, you know, if
33:58
you're say that you know, the mom passed away and it's a
34:00
single dad and he does a, you know, a great job and he's got
34:03
this basically the same thing that, you know, the moms have to
34:06
do, which is they have to go out and get a full time job.
34:08
They can't. So I could see I could see it
34:10
being, you know, a daddy thing as well.
34:12
Like I said, mine left when I was four years old.
34:15
So I can't help but go, well, it's probably not all just mom
34:19
thing. It was a OK, they chose to push
34:23
me out. Therefore I no longer had their
34:25
attention because they chose not to pay attention to me.
34:28
So there's a lot of things that I've kind of analyzed to go, OK,
34:31
it's now I didn't do anything wrong.
34:33
No, you didn't. Therefore, I have nothing to
34:35
feel bad about, which is the reason why I can accept being a
34:38
yeah being a little being an adult baby because not hurting
34:39
anybody. I'm not hurting, you know, not
34:41
at all anything out there. But again, I didn't do anything
34:44
wrong. Therefore, why should I feel
34:45
guilty for, yeah, bad or guilty that, you know, that I
34:48
participate in that lifestyle and then I'm not ashamed.
34:50
Yeah, I think it's great. I really do.
34:52
I think adult baby, I think it's badass.
34:54
I think I like the kink. I think it's cool.
34:57
Liv and I really were into it. I am actually gotten really into
35:00
the sissification too, but this not the humiliation
35:03
sissification. But this is you don't like the
35:04
humiliation aspect at all. I get it.
35:06
Yeah, but I really like, I've been really starting to dig the
35:09
Sissy sissies because I feel like I can kind of understand
35:12
it. When I understand it is whenever
35:13
I start like enjoying it. I know what you need.
35:16
Now you can understand why. Yes, yes.
35:19
But you know what ABDL? Well, it's more or less direct.
35:21
This is the direct. There's no black and white.
35:24
It's like this is what I like. It's either a diaper fetish
35:28
whereas the sisification. It's all over the place.
35:31
It's fucking all over the place is right.
35:33
It's like, OK, we can sisify you, OK?
35:35
Do you want to be a cook? Oh, no, you just want to suck
35:38
Dick. Oh, do you want to be a trans?
35:41
Is this the crossing over to it? I mean, there's so many fucking
35:44
levels to it. And I must admit, whenever you
35:46
were talking about the adult baby that wants, that's a guy
35:50
that wants to be a girl, that's where there's two morphs.
35:52
And I was like, yes, I want to know the psychology behind that
35:56
because like you said, this world is very direct.
35:58
This is very that's what I want. This one is like he's.
36:00
Been around a baby girl that got up a lot of a lot of attention.
36:03
Is that that's what it comes down to?
36:04
What it is because his daughter OK.
36:06
And he was probably raised since the only child, and again,
36:09
probably raised as the only child, sees that his wife gave a
36:13
lot of attention to his daughter.
36:14
He was already a cross dresser because he probably had, again,
36:18
a shitty fucking mother, OK. So he was already a trans.
36:21
It was. Already a.
36:22
Cross. Dresser.
36:23
Well, it wasn't a cross dresser, it was a baby.
36:25
So that that's where I'm trying to figure out OK but.
36:27
He wanted to be a cross dresser as a woman, but he still wanted
36:29
to be a baby. He still wanted to be a kid.
36:31
He already had. He already wanted.
36:33
To be a baby, he wasn't a little.
36:34
Right, so but he already had the baby fetish or the ABDL fest and
36:39
then. It probably translated into
36:41
that, but I don't know. I didn't really dig into he
36:43
didn't dig into that further with him.
36:44
Well, yeah, because the what I got from him wasn't a little.
36:48
It was still he wanted to be a baby, but he still wanted to be
36:51
a girl, right. So he still wanted to be
36:53
feminized. And to me, feminization goes
36:55
back to not having that emotional connection with your
36:57
mother. But the whole thing with the
36:59
baby again, is it the mother? Is it the Father you?
37:02
Know the. Wife.
37:03
Is it the wife? Yeah.
37:04
And maybe he was just closeted his whole time and he was like,
37:07
Oh well, I'm doing the AVDL. That may be a little easier
37:10
transition in his head to be a female baby versus saying I want
37:13
to wear high heels and V dress and do the makeup I could.
37:17
I could see that actually being it's baby steps.
37:20
Baby steps. So cute.
37:24
Yeah. We need another episode just of
37:25
talking about cross dressing because I've.
37:27
I've got some crazy stories. Liv's got some crazy stories.
37:30
I mean, we can really get in depth about that.
37:34
But we need to wrap it up, kids. We ready.
37:37
All right, So until then, this has been the latest episode of.