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Patricia Barnett | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #141 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian Reef
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  podcast. Today's guest is a professional
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  speaker and performance coach hailing all the way from Las
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  Vegas and the United States. Her name is Patricia Bonnet.
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  Welcome to the show. How you doing?
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  And well, Kristen, I'm thrilled to be here to know.
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  Honestly. Thank you for agreeing to do
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  this. I know what I can tell just by
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  looking everything I've researched into you that you're
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  very, very busy person. But yeah, let's let's hop
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  straight into it. So you do business mentoring is
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  specifically in the field of personal and professional
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  transformation. So what can you tell us about
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  this? Because obviously these are
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  buzzwords, these are things that people want to hear, but when it
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  gets down to sort of the nitty-gritty, how do you help
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  people and businesses transform themselves?
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  There's a saying that I love so much in the saying is that for
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  things to change we must change. So First and foremost, how I
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  help people is to recognize that results on the outside are
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  created first by what's happening on the inside.
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  So person you mentioned in business, yes, I love helping
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  people in business and in life because every area of our life,
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  it all comes back, all leads, all roads lead to Rome.
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  It all comes back to us and so this is about developing self.
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  I've been a student Of self development and human potential,
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  almost my whole life and I've coached people for about the
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  last 30 years and what I have found for myself, it's not just
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  coaching others profound work for myself in understanding how
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  we can develop ourselves to then create greater success in life
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  in any area of life but also greater happiness and joy and
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  fulfillment. So that we just like going to
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  run into the day and Kristen when you, and I started our
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  conversation before we ever even Got the ball rolling here.
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  We were speaking about how the ups and downs of Life happened,
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  and where I really help people is how to be even Keel.
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  No matter what's happening in our lives.
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  So that we are like, you know, good to go, no matter what life
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  seems to throw to us, as you were kind of outline.
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  That one thing that popped into my head, that I go over, I gotta
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  ask and it comes from the perspective of, as you said,
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  like, you know, If you want to change you got, you got to be
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  the author of your change, and it's very difficult. firstly to
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  acknowledge that to own that to understand that you have to
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  change and also, is difficult as opposed to it to accept that but
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  some people maybe not, I mean, certainly I think with
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  businesses, it's a case of well, we either change or we go out
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  business, so it's kind of that there is more of a say,
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  motivation to actually do make make those steps forward to
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  reach out to someone such as yourself and actually make those
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  moves and also, then to follow the instructions that you would
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  actually give Them. But one of the things I want to
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  know is how much kind of pushback do you get from people
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  and businesses? So obviously you sit down with
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  these people and you're like, okay, tell me what the problem
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  is and they outline what their problem is and you kind of
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  listen, take it on board Etc and then you obviously within the
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  framework of what you do, you give them kind of your
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  perspective on how they can change and what they can do.
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  But inevitably you must be Sort of giving them criticisms here
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  and there in a constructive manner of the sea, but you're
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  you're going to kind of outline. What?
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  Okay, these are your problems right here and in that D get any
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  pushback to get any difficulty. Talk to us a little bit about
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  that. You know, it's really
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  interesting question because where there are Consultants that
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  can come in and look at a business or even a person's life
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  and say, okay you need to put this in order and do this and
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  change this and go here. We do a little bit of that.
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  But as you said it is all about how Showing up who were showing
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  up as where our limitations lie, and many times people can't see
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  their limitations. That's why, you know, that's one
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  of the biggest challenges we have is that we can't see what
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  we can't see. And many times, it's like,
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  imagine this like a Post-It note on your back stuff on your back
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  and in school, when I was little, you know, we had notes
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  that were taped to the back. That said, kick me and the
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  person who had that note stuck to their back, Kicked, but they
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  couldn't figure out why they kept getting kicked.
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  So, what I do is I come in and I shine the spotlight, right, like
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  Shine the spotlight and take a peek of what's back here,
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  because many times people can't see it.
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  And to your point, Christian, the pushback comes from people
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  who are not willing to really, really, really be open because
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  there is a level of responsibility again whether
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  it's business or in life. Like we can't Figure out, why
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  does life keep kicking me? Why do I feel like I keep
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  getting kicked down the road, whether it's in business or in
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  life and I've had times like that in my life.
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  I've been a student of this work and yet where I have developed
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  my muscles is by going through my process and living my process
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  and then ultimately creating a process so that I can help
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  people, you know, rise. Thrive and Elevate their
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  results. But how do you kind of defeat
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  that initial stubbornness from people?
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  Because obviously, as you've said, you've had to work to get
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  to that point. It's progress thing, you know, I
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  can say even in my own life it's the sort of thing where as you
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  recently within the last year I had a kind of stubbornness where
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  I felt like well you know I'm up to this point.
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  I've lived most of my twenties in this way and I feel very
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  mature and then something just comes and knocks you off your
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  soap. A stool and then you're back to
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  square one again and you're sort of re-evaluating working and
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  things again. Yeah.
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  Now, but the difference there is that, okay, taking myself as an
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  example, I looked at that and realized, okay, this needs to
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  change and then you make the change.
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  But then as you kind of outline before, people aren't always
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  willing or able to even see that they're ignorant of the fact.
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  But initially, when you before you get those people to start
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  actually complying and going through that frame, Work and
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  listening to you. How do you get through to them?
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  They wash your process to kind of stop them or kick them out of
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  being stubborn. It's a great question.
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  And what I do is I share with them what the process is because
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  there is a process to elevating. There's an absolute science to
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  how this works. And I believe that it's so key
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  because if we don't know how this works, we're going to be
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  stuck in the push. Whole, we're going to be stuck
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  in, like, you know, the New Year's resolutions that people
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  make at the beginning of the year.
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  And there with her about, maybe two weeks, or four weeks or six
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  weeks, if they're lucky, and then they slide all the way back
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  down. And then they say, you know,
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  resolutions don't work. Do you know, Christian now at
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  least in the United States, but I'm believing around the world.
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  There are less people now than ever that ever really create New
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  Year's resolutions, why? Because there's a belief that
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  it, they do. Don't work and resolutions,
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  don't work if you don't know how they work and if you can't work
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  with them so that they do work because I believe they can work
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  but not in the framework of mindset.
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  So what I do is I really take people through what the process
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  is, so they could realize what is that resistance about,
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  because I was sitting down with a friend not long ago and she
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  was speaking to me about her own internal resistance to sort of
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  things that she was wanting to make.
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  In her life. And she said, I just don't
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  figure out what's happening. You know?
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  Well, here's what's happening. We think that we are the one
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  resisting. When Christian, we're not the
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  ones resisting, it's the patterns, it's the way in which
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  we've done it this far. That is the resistance, that's
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  where the resistance happens. It looks like us Feels Like Us.
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  Sure, wants us to believe it's us.
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  It's not, it's a pattern. So, when we know we're working
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  with Turns when we know we're working with, you know, old
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  behaviors and habits. And when we know how then and
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  what to look for in the transformation process, it makes
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  the transformation so much easier and better because it's
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  fear. That is the resistor is
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  interesting with that one as well.
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  Because I find it does kind of depend a lot on the type of
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  person you are as well. Like, one thing I've learned
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  about myself with regards to this, Is that it's a I have to
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  kind of be presented with the consequences a few times before,
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  it kind of clicked, it depends what it is.
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  You know, like something like let's say quitting smoking, I'm
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  quite partial to a cigarette and I find with that it's actually
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  very easy for me to just quit it because it's just like well it
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  kills you. It cost lots of money, it
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  smells. I mean, there's barely any like
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  real positives to be honest. But like when Find yourself in
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  that pattern. Again, as you said it's like
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  okay. Like, so clearly the way I did
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  it last time didn't work and then you got a kind of, but
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  speaking to my point, the reason I brought up like when you're
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  looking at those consequences and you find yourself in that
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  moment. Again again again, eventually
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  gets to a point where it's kind of too much you know like it and
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  if then that's when it forces you to do something and some
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  people to be fair, can sort of just say, I'm going to change.
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  Then they change and then that's it.
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  But that's I think that's more in the kind of the mine.
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  My new amount of people, I think majority of people probably sit
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  in the middle somewhere where the, you know, they could do it,
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  maybe they could even do it like a month or something and then
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  they start having problems. Like, for instance, I actually
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  do think the whole new year's resolution thing is kind of
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  nonsense as well, but only from the perspective that if you're
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  going to change just do it. Now I don't pick a day.
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  Just start now and work. From this point, I don't give me
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  on. You can like count and go okay.
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  It's been 30 days, it's been two months and that's good.
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  But like, there's no point setting yourself a date because
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  one thing I think we all tend to do is, is we keep pushing it.
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  That will let, okay, let's take the smoking thing as an example,
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  right? So let's say I say, okay, I'm
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  going to, I'm going to quit tomorrow, I'll quit tomorrow.
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  And then a week from then I have a cigarette and I'm like, okay,
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  well, I'll start. Again in two days time and then
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  I'll be like and then you just before, you know it you're not
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  doing what you were supposed to do.
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  That's it. That's it.
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  Christian. First of all, you're exactly
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  right every day is a new day. I believe that today.
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  You know, today is a new day. It's a new dawn, there's a song,
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  a new dawn, a new day, a new life.
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  And it starts right here, right now.
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  So our new year, it's the first day of the rest of our lives.
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  Our new year starts today so Christian to your point.
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  So we could say we're going to stop something and some people
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  can for however long they do, Whether it's a week to your
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  point about the smoking a month or a lifetime.
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  But here's the really important partner.
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  There are people who stop things.
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  Like, let's take drinking as an example.
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  People can stop drinking and they can stop the drinking that.
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  If they don't go to the thinking that started the drinking, then
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  they don't drink, but they still have the same life as though.
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  They did. They still had the same
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  anxieties or they still The same numbing out, they'll find
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  something different, maybe they won't drink, but then they'll
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  find something to replace it. So it is all about going inside.
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  So we can stop the habit. And we cannot do that thing and
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  only until we really get inside and figure out where that came
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  from, and why, and stop the pattern, the behavior, the
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  thinking pattern coming from a different mindset.
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  Will that really be gone. So someone I can stop drinking
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  and and people who stopped drinking, but do not stop
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  thinking that caused the drinking.
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  They're called, there's a name for them, they're called a dry
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  drunk, they're not drinking, but they still have the same
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  mindset. They still have the same heart
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  set. They still have the same
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  self-image. And yet, it doesn't create any
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  more, happiness, Freedom, or New Direction in their life.
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  So we can stop the habit. It's been said that if you want
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  to stop smoking, this is what's been said, you want to stop
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  smoking, you don't have to try to stop smoking.
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  Just never put cigarettes up to your lip and inhale ever again
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  in your life. That's how you stop smoking,
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  right? That's how others have said.
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  That's how you stop. You just don't do it anymore to
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  your point. Chris, did we start?
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  Hey, we just don't do it anymore, but there is a behavior
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  that creates the habit and that's my work is going in and
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  getting To the spot of what is it that really creates that what
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  is it? And usually, it's something that
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  we can't even see for ourselves. So, when I mentioned that, that
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  resistance comes from Fear, it's fear of change, or fear, that
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  things will be different. Like, I'm not going to be able
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  to have my cigarette with my coffee in the morning.
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  Right? I know it's not good, but it's
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  about going inside and changing their and Christian.
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  Would you believe? That there is a study where even
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  people who were diagnosed with lung cancer, like your if you
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  smoke another cigarette, it is going to be the clothes closure
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  of your coffin. And even then, that does not
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  motivate some people teeth and quit.
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  So it's about what's the motivating factor and going
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  going deeper, going deeper inside.
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  And that's the work that I do this.
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  Yeah, it's a turkey one with smoking because it smoking for
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  me is my Achilles heel like I can, I can easily not touch.
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  I'm not only bothered about alcohol, to be honest, like
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  whatever. I can go on a night out and you
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  know, I love my coffee, I think that's probably but in addiction
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  for me, but smoking is like that kind of like forbidden fruit.
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  It's almost like a as you said I coffee and coffee and a
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  cigarette, something like it's always better.
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  In in small doses, but even that one is just too much.
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  I mean, it's and I know that and we all know that, you know, it's
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  bad, we all know that. But why do we do it christian?
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  Why do we do it? Because it's so good.
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  That's why Kristin, we all have it, whether we call it a
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  cigarette, whether we call it potato chips, whether we call it
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  numbing out watching TV whether we call it social media,
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  everyone has their Achilles heel and that's really What is pretty
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  profound even when we recognize that, when you're speaking about
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  taking people through the process, recognizing everyone
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  has one. And that's part of our journey
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  in moving through life is knowing that everyone is going
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  to have circumstances. That really are hard.
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  Everyone's going to have to overcome something.
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  Everyone has an Achilles heel everyone.
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  Even Clark Kent, even Superman. Right.
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  Had an Achilles heel called kryptonite so we all have one
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  it's just now how do we move Beyond it?
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  And go above it and overcome it and Christian hears the news of
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  the day are you ready? That's in your seat belt?
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  It generally has nothing to do with the thing, we think it
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  does. So that's why diets don't work.
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  People are. It's like, I call it wrestling
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  in the Alligator Pit with alligators, right?
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  So, even alligator wrestlers, those people that go in and
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  wrestle alligators, is that a thing where you are?
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  Have you heard of that, right? Like, in the US as of it?
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  Yeah. I can't believe that people can
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  go in and wrestle alligators and even alligator wrestlers can
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  lose. Your life going in the pit.
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  No. Really.
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  You know I've had so would you and I go in the pit you and I
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  wouldn't even go in the pit alligators wrestlers sometimes.
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  Don't make it out of the pit. She's so add a woman one day and
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  said, you know, Patricia tell me, tell me what I can do to arm
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  myself before I go in basically the Alligator Pit.
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  And I looked at her and I said, here's how you arm yourself.
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  Don't go into the Alligator Pit. If you want to make sure that
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  you survived don't go to war and what I mean is don't go into the
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  Alligator Pit. So you know, how do we, how do
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  we think about that differently? It's knowing that it has not a
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  lot to do with the diet, or the potato chips, or the alcohol, or
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  the smoking, or the cigarettes or it has to it.
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  It's deeper. So now we're looking at.
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  Okay. So do we need Psychiatry and
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  psychology and do we need to go back to when we were 4?
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  And what happened then? No, it's about activating.
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  A different part of our brain and focusing on something
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  different. Because if we're focusing on the
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  cigarettes, we're focusing on the cigarettes if we're focusing
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  on the potato chips and how do I not eat those potato chips
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  again, you just Don't put them in your mouth, but wow.
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  How do those bags show up in my pantry?
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  So, it's about activating a different part of our brain,
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  rather than trying to trying to go into the part that's making
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  that. So seductive we don't want to
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  stay there. That's the Alligator Pit.
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  We want to open up a new part of our brain and new neural pathway
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  and create new tracks. We create new tracks of thinking
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  and behaving. Here we'll create new tracks of
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  how we live our habits and our results.
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  Hmm, no, I mean, maybe a right on the while.
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  You would know more than me like I'm just but I mean I did it
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  whenever I look at that. Like for example you talk about
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  learn and the desire to have this thing and the desperately
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  wanted and whatever and like like for instance, when I think
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  about one thing I like to have, sometimes it's just like
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  takeaways I'm quite bad for that and I know I shouldn't keep
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  doing it and in that moment, just before I find myself, just
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  going, ask her and that right there is choice, I mean, I know
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  that I shouldn't do that and I know it's bad for me and it's a
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  waste of money and etc. Etc, etc.
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  But it's like, I don't know. I feel like certain things it
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  comes down to more case of Discipline working on
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  discipline, maybe more than anything else, you know?
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  Like obviously that's going to tie into what you were saying
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  before about building new ways of thinking and stuff, I totally
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  get that but I think that a key aspect of this is principally
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  just working on your discipline, you know?
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  Like your ability just say no when you get offered things or
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  if you have the opportunity or opportunity to repeat a
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  behavior. You know you shouldn't.
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  It's like Yes, yes, your right on your right on with that
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  Christian. The difference is where we say,
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  know is if we're saying it from the side that has the Allure in
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  it, or we saying it from the side that wants to create
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  freedom. And again, if we're saying it
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  from the side, that's wanting the Allure, then we are again
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  back in the Alligator Pit. So you are spot on, is that it
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  comes down to awareness, it comes down to Thinking instead
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  of just in the moment, getting caught up and then taking the
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  action, like this, not going to really make a difference.
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  There's a lot more involved and you mentioned it.
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  Christian, like, sometimes people, it's also part of the
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  process that sometimes, it doesn't stick right away and the
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  moment it doesn't stick and we'll just use the smoking.
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  For example, the moment it doesn't stick and we have that
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  cigarette. Now the judger comes in the
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  judge comes in, you failed miserably, you have failed.
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  You're never going to do this, it's not going to work.
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  And then that's where we have lost all power.
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  When in fact, that's part of the process, you may have a
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  cigarette, it may not stick, but the point is, it is so that it
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  doesn't happen as often and when it happens, you get right back
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  on track, that's part of the game.
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  That's part of the play, that's part of a Playbook, right?
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  So when we think we're going to just go for perfect results and
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  we're never going to smoke again.
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  In our life, we set ourselves up for such failure and in fact
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  that's the sabotage that wants to come in the self sabotage
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  that wants to come in for us to believe.
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  Will never overcome or never move past or never rise above
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  and go beyond, totally agree. Yeah, I think it's about kind of
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  like Trying to create the life. Whether that behavior no longer
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  exists, you know, and it's all that the life afterwards or
• 22:30
  whatever. And yeah, that is process.
• 22:33
  That's just not going to happen straight away.
• 22:35
  You know, like when you hear people say like, oh, why don't
• 22:37
  you just give up drinking? Why don't you just do this?
• 22:40
  What? And obviously that, excuse me
• 22:42
  does come down to ignorance and, you know, not realizing that
• 22:45
  it's a hard thing to overcome, but it's also, as you said, it's
• 22:49
  not just about the thing itself or the willingness to accept
• 22:53
  that, you have a problem and you need to work, that it's like
• 22:57
  consistency and You know, keeping going to those meetings
• 23:02
  for example or you know, you keep repeating the processes
• 23:07
  that you've learned and whatever and it's like getting used to
• 23:09
  that behavior and you know, it's like it's like anything.
• 23:13
  I mean I think like the weird thing about us humans is that we
• 23:17
  recognize that we need to change.
• 23:21
  We know that and we know that life is all about change.
• 23:27
  And yet we still try to resist it as much as we possibly can.
• 23:33
  Like it's almost like rule just born really stubborn, but don't
• 23:37
  get me wrong. Some people have bit more.
• 23:42
  Open-minded to change and realize and and, you know, and
• 23:45
  embrace it. But I think we all we definitely
• 23:49
  all have that feeling initiative, really?
• 23:52
  But I'll give you an example. Something really small, my new,
• 23:55
  but it demonstrates, the point. Like one of my housemates is
• 23:58
  moving out this month, and I just really like the guy and I'm
• 24:03
  like, okay, you know, because I know everything's going to
• 24:07
  change, you know, the vibe will be different.
• 24:09
  Someone new will move in. He'll move away. let's face it,
• 24:12
  you know, you see going to stay in touch but you never do just
• 24:15
  how life is, you know, things happen, sometimes you do, but
• 24:18
  you know life, but And I said this to my other house mate and
• 24:24
  he's like, yeah, I know, it's is what it is.
• 24:26
  And I'm just like, I wish it wouldn't be like that and, you
• 24:29
  know, and we don't we just saying all stuff that we know,
• 24:31
  it's not even like we're really trying to reassure each other or
• 24:34
  be like, oh it'd be. All right, it's just we both
• 24:37
  know because we're both old enough like now you know, close
• 24:40
  to the. We just we've embraced that we
• 24:46
  know that that's the case but it doesn't stop it from from not
• 24:49
  wanting it you know, know like being comfortable.
• 24:52
  And then the funny thing about change, especially with bigger
• 24:56
  things is that, you know, you can never really anticipate it,
• 25:01
  you know, it never comes at a convenient time or like it just
• 25:05
  happens and you've got to do your best to work around it and
• 25:09
  embrace it. Yeah, pretty profound Christian.
• 25:14
  You of change is always happening.
• 25:15
  That's the one thing that stays constant is change.
• 25:18
  Change is always happening, and I'm probably at the front of the
• 25:23
  line in the Brigade to not like change.
• 25:28
  I don't like change. I like things steady.
• 25:31
  I like things to stay the same. I don't love change until I
• 25:37
  realized. Wait a minute for things to
• 25:40
  change. We must change.
• 25:41
  We Have changed. So part of the process is once
• 25:45
  we realized that when we embrace it versus fight, it is so much
• 25:49
  easier and that actually gives us the lift to help to rise
• 25:54
  above and go beyond any of that stuff that comes up.
• 26:00
  When change happens this morning this morning, I have a new
• 26:04
  coaching certification class because I do continuing
• 26:09
  education. So I just started something.
• 26:11
  Thing this morning and I've been in it for seven weeks and they
• 26:14
  just upgraded us this morning and when I went to my app,
• 26:19
  everything was gone, everything changed.
• 26:21
  It was not where it used to be. And for me, it's like,
• 26:24
  scrambling me, right? I call it.
• 26:26
  The shake and snow globe. It's like shook me, right?
• 26:29
  But when we realize, ah, this is for the good, so that's a
• 26:33
  process. That's a muscle.
• 26:35
  That's a muscle to build to realize.
• 26:39
  See change happens. I don't like change when change.
• 26:41
  Happens. I'm going to get shaken for a
• 26:43
  second and then I'm going to be able to know how to bring myself
• 26:46
  back to the navigate the change. That's a muscle that we can
• 26:51
  build into your point, Christian only until people are knocked
• 26:57
  down or shaken. Enough, will they desire?
• 27:00
  The change? And once they are in the midst
• 27:04
  of the change, the key is to know the process.
• 27:07
  Stay with it and work with somebody, if we could do it on
• 27:11
  our own, we would Have done it already on our own.
• 27:13
  So this is why, you know, I'm a big advocate for Coach is not
• 27:16
  because I am one but because for about the last 30 years, I've
• 27:20
  had one or two or three right now, I have three coaches that I
• 27:24
  work with. Not because I'm, you know,
• 27:28
  remedial, I've been working on this but because I have a desire
• 27:32
  to really rise. I now I'm dedicated to how far
• 27:36
  can I go. What is my potential?
• 27:39
  Because what I know is the deeper, I go into my potential,
• 27:43
  the more people I can help reach theirs.
• 27:47
  How different question in mind. But I will just continue that
• 27:50
  point. I think I've had quite a few
• 27:53
  different guests on the show. In, you know, let's say, various
• 27:58
  distant different, sort of lines of work to yourself, you know,
• 28:02
  like for instance, like therapists psychologists Etc.
• 28:05
  And they all seem to have this unique, you all have this thing
• 28:09
  in common of like, Let's even know, I might be an expert in my
• 28:13
  field. I'm still going to learn.
• 28:16
  I'm still going to have people teach me and I find that like a
• 28:19
  really fascinating concept. Like for instance I had a guest
• 28:21
  on the show Once who was a relationship counselor and she'd
• 28:25
  been doing it for like 30 years and she was still getting
• 28:28
  marriage counseling for her marriage even though they were
• 28:31
  happily married and had been for a long time and she said like
• 28:34
  it's just good to kind of keep it going and just kind of But
• 28:38
  she found positives in it and I just looked at that.
• 28:41
  I like, it's just a different way of approaching it really.
• 28:44
  And it keeps it in a positive space and allows for growth.
• 28:50
  And I think, because I think that's the thing, isn't it?
• 28:51
  I think we get to a certain point where we feel very
• 28:54
  comfortable with things and we feel like we kind of know it or
• 28:57
  not. Course, that's nonsense we know
• 28:59
  nothing. There's always things to learn,
• 29:02
  but I don't know, I just, I just find that that whole concept
• 29:05
  interesting in a nutshell, but One thing I did want to kind of
• 29:09
  ask you about with regards to change, or at least sort of talk
• 29:13
  to you about. Is this idea that, you know,
• 29:15
  yes, change is something. We have to embrace, and it's
• 29:19
  inevitable, and it's a part of life.
• 29:23
  The see, what do you do when things don't change for the
• 29:26
  better, they change for the worse?
• 29:29
  Now, I'll say my opinion on this, before I hand over to you,
• 29:33
  is that I've kind of found myself understanding that you
• 29:38
  have to get to a point where You don't panic when things go bad
• 29:45
  and you try your very best. To like continue being yourself
• 29:52
  and continue being calm during that, you know, that time.
• 29:57
  But the thing I want to know from you is less say that period
• 30:03
  lasts longer than we expected less.
• 30:05
  Say it's not a short-term thing. Like it lasts.
• 30:08
  Six months a year. What do you do in those
• 30:11
  situations? How do you keep going?
• 30:15
  Oh my gosh. This is a really big bright.
• 30:17
  This is a big, big. Question and it's a great, it's
• 30:22
  really a great one because it's very much of what we spoke about
• 30:25
  coming in is that things will happen.
• 30:27
  We have these ups and downs and when we speak about change right
• 30:32
  now in our world, in our world, we are in the midst of some of
• 30:38
  the most profound changes in some of the most Rocky times
• 30:42
  that we've ever lived ever in our lifetimes and we're all
• 30:48
  doing it at the same time. Time.
• 30:50
  It's not just one country or one set of people everyone on the
• 30:54
  globe right now is in the midst of a major reset and that's
• 31:00
  changed. That's change.
• 31:02
  So it comes down to this idea that it's who we're showing up
• 31:08
  as who were being no matter what's happening around us.
• 31:14
  And where many may think that okay Patricia, you know sounds
• 31:18
  good, you know, maybe you were just born positive.
• 31:23
  I want to share with you the reason that I believe so
• 31:26
  wholeheartedly and what I do and why staying calm especially in
• 31:32
  the midst of chaos is so important is because of some of
• 31:36
  the opportunities I've had in my own life.
• 31:40
  Twenty years ago, I was diagnosed with a
• 31:43
  life-threatening disease. Well, I was 30 years old and at
• 31:50
  the peak like, the prime professionally, I was at the top
• 31:55
  of my game and I had been working with a coach for
• 31:59
  business development and then diagnosed and it was as if in a
• 32:05
  day in a moment, like, the rug felt like it got pulled right
• 32:09
  out from under me, like everything.
• 32:12
  Just Wasn't supposed to be happening to me.
• 32:16
  And that was something that in a very short time, span a big
• 32:22
  thing happened and so it wasn't going to change overnight.
• 32:27
  And so, how did I what I'm hearing you say is when we have
• 32:30
  big things happen? What look like out there?
• 32:33
  How do we keep our footing? How do we keep our grounding?
• 32:36
  And a lot of it has to do with mindset.
• 32:40
  It has to do with where will we be?
• 32:43
  How will we set ourselves up, who will we show up as well?
• 32:48
  We're going through this that Adventure.
• 32:50
  That Journey For Me, lasted about a year and a half.
• 32:55
  And so when I had ultimately come down to a doctor say, you
• 33:01
  know, where you are in this, you better go home and pray for a
• 33:04
  miracle because the chances of making it our much Slimmer, then
• 33:12
  the alternative like a narrow margin to make it to the other
• 33:16
  side. The fortunately I've been
• 33:20
  working in this area. I've been working in this Arena.
• 33:22
  I've been working with a coach In a formula for success as it
• 33:29
  related to business and in business I didn't have a
• 33:32
  business degree. I didn't even have a college
• 33:34
  education. I didn't have business
• 33:36
  experience and yet, I made it to the top of a company and an
• 33:41
  entire industry in two years. So we knew that that formula
• 33:46
  worked for that. And then when this diagnosis
• 33:50
  happened, my husband and I sat together and we thought, okay,
• 33:53
  if it created those kind of results.
• 33:55
  Results in that area of Life. Wonder what that formula would
• 33:58
  do in this area of life. And you mentioned that
• 34:02
  Christian, the idea that when we are going through some really
• 34:06
  Rocky times, one of the very first, whether we're trying to
• 34:10
  change smoking to a healthy lifestyle or whether we're
• 34:15
  wanting the edge so that we can stay alive.
• 34:19
  The number one he is vision. Creating a vision, creating a
• 34:27
  vision of what could be possible, a vision of what and
• 34:31
  where we could be on the other side of all of this and then
• 34:36
  coming from the vision. So it's not just hoping like
• 34:39
  Pollyanna. I hope that I live to tell about
• 34:42
  it. The moment that that doctor said
• 34:44
  that to me and again, I have had some muscles built.
• 34:48
  So I already had some muscles built.
• 34:50
  I already work with a coach. But the moment that doctor said
• 34:54
  that to me, I had two choices. I could buy into his belief or I
• 35:00
  could create my own. And my husband said to me, will
• 35:05
  you buy into his belief? Because if I bought into his
• 35:08
  belief, the chances of me, not being here. 20 years later would
• 35:16
  be far different Belief and where will we set ourselves up?
• 35:23
  So I immediately created a belief that hey, even if he told
• 35:29
  me, it wasn't possible. I knew that I had a source that
• 35:34
  I believed in that was a miracle worker that I could be one of
• 35:37
  the first, even if the doctor told me, you have zero chance.
• 35:42
  I would believe in miracles. Because otherwise I might as
• 35:47
  well just exit stage left, right?
• 35:50
  So I created a vision and in that moment it was easy because
• 35:53
  all I had to ask myself is where will I be on the other side of
• 35:57
  this? And I created a vision for where
• 36:00
  I would be on the other side of this which again was one of the
• 36:05
  hardest. Physically, mentally,
• 36:09
  emotionally, spiritually, or the hardest things I've ever been
• 36:13
  through in my life. And so, how did I do it?
• 36:17
  That's what people ask me. How did you do it?
• 36:20
  Is that mindset and mental Fitness?
• 36:24
  And then I showed up and then I did the things necessary to move
• 36:28
  through. And, and what I knew is that,
• 36:32
  whether I made it or I didn't then, All would be well.
• 36:37
  So there was a sense of being really quite relaxed through the
• 36:42
  process because my faith was so high and knowing that no matter
• 36:46
  what all would be. Well, so to your question, you
• 36:50
  know, things happen, things happen, like, why does it get
• 36:55
  worse before? It gets better, Christian
• 36:57
  things, get worse. Many times before they get
• 37:02
  better even where we are on the globe right now.
• 37:05
  In the planet and where we are in the world.
• 37:09
  When we take a forty thousand foot View and realize that some
• 37:14
  of the things that are happening, I believe my belief
• 37:17
  is that we could believe that only bad can happen from this.
• 37:21
  Or we could believe that there could be good, there could be
• 37:26
  even if we could just be slightly open to the fact that
• 37:28
  there could be good here. And how will we mine this time?
• 37:35
  To be a part of that. How will we mine, this time, who
• 37:40
  will we be? How will we show up?
• 37:42
  What will we do to be part of the solution?
• 37:45
  Even if we're not exactly where in the world things are
• 37:48
  happening, we have the opportunity.
• 37:50
  You and I today in this conversation have the
• 37:52
  opportunity to create a brighter space and place.
• 37:58
  And again, I'm very aware I'm hearing people like, oh, you
• 38:02
  know, just positive thinking, just you being happy is going to
• 38:06
  make a difference. Yeah, it's the beginning.
• 38:10
  So it is a much deeper conversation but to your
• 38:14
  question, what happens when all hell breaks loose, and it looks
• 38:18
  like we're not, we might not make it out alive.
• 38:24
  Is. Create a mindset, create a
• 38:28
  vision. And here's the most important
• 38:30
  thing about Vision, our results, this is big, fasten your seat
• 38:35
  belts. Everyone, our results are
• 38:38
  determined by how we show up, not just what happens to us, but
• 38:44
  how we will show up in the midst of what's Happening.
• 38:48
  That's what creates the results finally on the outcome.
• 38:52
  So, when I was diagnosed initially, you know, someone
• 38:55
  said it's not what happens. To you.
• 38:57
  It's what you take from what's Happening and what you will
• 39:02
  create from what's Happening and how you will use it for the
• 39:06
  good. And that's how each and every
• 39:08
  one of us have a ability in this moment.
• 39:12
  How will we take what's happening to us?
• 39:15
  And how will we mine, the good and create this for the
• 39:20
  betterment of all for ourselves and for all?
• 39:25
  So that's an awfully long. Wrong answer Christian to your
• 39:28
  question but did that help from my perspective of how we can
• 39:33
  move through times in which we find very challenging at comes
• 39:38
  back to how we can set ourselves up every day and come from that
• 39:43
  calm confidence. I call it a calm confidence so
• 39:47
  that no matter what's happening in the world.
• 39:49
  No matter what's happening or life, the moment we can begin to
• 39:53
  believe it's possible that good could come from this.
• 39:56
  And then get interested in the good that could come.
• 40:00
  That is then the path in which we're on not fight it embrace it
• 40:05
  and find the good in it. Wow.
• 40:13
  Well I can say is It's amazing And thank you so much for
• 40:17
  sharing. I know for a fact that everyone
• 40:21
  list in will Be very inspired by that.
• 40:26
  I think that It's especially difficult in a situation like
• 40:32
  that. To not give in to fear and to
• 40:38
  realize, okay, I need to do something about this and, you
• 40:43
  know, I'll dress some of what you said.
• 40:46
  I don't think it's, they're very difficult for me to follow this.
• 40:49
  I'll do my best. you'd already got yourself up to that point,
• 40:55
  you know, clearly, you know you'd You'd face you you would
• 41:00
  have faced a lot of difficulties getting to the top because, you
• 41:04
  know, business is hard, you know, business is ruthless, it's
• 41:07
  it's it's a special kind of Beast and, you know, you got to
• 41:12
  be tough and you've got to be resilient and that that's got
• 41:15
  what got you, this success. When you got to that point at
• 41:18
  that point, Then to be told something like that, I mean, as
• 41:22
  you say, it does kind of that kind of come down to two
• 41:24
  choices. It's like, well, do I give up or
• 41:26
  do I keep going? And it's like the thing that
• 41:30
  most amazes me most. with everything that you said and you
• 41:34
  know, just put myself in your shoes for a second.
• 41:39
  The most amazing thing I think about that is The strength and
• 41:46
  courage you showed. To continue going, despite it
• 41:51
  being scary. And obviously, certain things
• 41:53
  are going to help like having a support network.
• 41:55
  Having the husband are having family friends, colleagues,
• 41:59
  whatever it takes, you know, that's fundamental and you know
• 42:02
  we will always draw on these things when were in a period
• 42:06
  where we need that kind of support we reach out as what we
• 42:09
  do. But I think you're incredible
• 42:13
  for showing such courage and Determination to keep going
• 42:20
  through that and I think it's even more amazing.
• 42:23
  That you played a business concept to that.
• 42:25
  That's that's unheard of and I got a I got a dig a Little
• 42:30
  Deeper with this because I know that you've got this kind of put
• 42:34
  it like a seven step program that you've developed, is that
• 42:38
  the same thing or is that like the beginnings of that and then
• 42:41
  you kind of create that later on, like talk to us about this
• 42:46
  kind of approach that you Used not only to address that tough
• 42:50
  time in your life but then continuing from that to where
• 42:53
  you are now. Well, this is another great
• 42:57
  question. You, you are good.
• 43:01
  You ask some really terrific questions.
• 43:03
  Well, first of all, the coach that I mentioned that I was
• 43:06
  working with, he he was a coach that at one time was a
• 43:12
  professional football player for the Miami Dolphins.
• 43:16
  So he had gone to the Purple, he was the captain at the Super
• 43:20
  Bowl and very successful in that profession, and then when he
• 43:26
  left football, and by the way, he was coached under a coach by
• 43:30
  the name of Don Shula, some may know of Don Shula.
• 43:34
  He's, you know, one of the greats as it relates to coaching
• 43:37
  in football, history, back in the day.
• 43:40
  And so, the coaching that I received had a lot to do with
• 43:45
  the champion mindset. In fact, it Add almost
• 43:48
  everything to do with the champion mindset.
• 43:50
  So it was that champion mindset that we applied to business, and
• 43:55
  it was within that that it was not so much about those to dues.
• 43:59
  And yet there was a lot to do, it had everything to do with
• 44:03
  what we've been speaking about. So as he coached me, and then as
• 44:09
  we recognize, wait a minute, that's Champion mindset well, to
• 44:13
  get through a diagnosis and that kind of, that kind of Prediction
• 44:18
  from a doctor, we're going to need a champion mindset to get
• 44:22
  to the other side. Because if there is a book
• 44:25
  written by a colleague and a friend of mine who's no longer
• 44:28
  here alive, but he wrote a book that said, if the how-to's were
• 44:34
  enough, we'd all be skinny rich and happy because we know how to
• 44:41
  write. We just don't put the cigarette
• 44:43
  dry lips. We know how we just don't put
• 44:44
  the chip in our mouth know, if the how to's were enough.
• 44:47
  If we'd all be thriving, we'd all be happy, we'd all be
• 44:50
  skinny, we'd all be rich. We don't have nothing to worry
• 44:54
  about. So in recognizing, you know, one
• 44:58
  of those most topsy-turvy times in my life.
• 45:01
  And yes, I was working with this coach to achieve what I had, but
• 45:05
  my topsy-turvy didn't start just right at the time in which I was
• 45:10
  diagnosed. I had had some opportunities to
• 45:15
  rise above other times, in my Life as well, right?
• 45:19
  So a journey of self development, just didn't start
• 45:22
  because I was sent so interested in self development.
• 45:26
  Although I was it was I think that some of the greatest
• 45:30
  Masters have gone through some of the greatest stuff that's why
• 45:35
  we can accelerate and Elevate to become, you know, to be in this
• 45:42
  conversation because we've been through it.
• 45:44
  It's not just because I had an easy life that I can help
• 45:47
  people. People have better lives.
• 45:50
  Now, I've noticed that again and again and I used to think it was
• 45:53
  coincidence but now I, yeah, I'm not, it's true.
• 45:58
  The more you go through, the more, it kind of Helps you to
• 46:02
  build what resilience and understanding and it is a
• 46:07
  choice. You know, it's a choice of.
• 46:10
  Am I a victim or a my Survivor or you know?
• 46:14
  Like and don't get me wrong. I'm now, I'm making it sound
• 46:16
  easier than it is. Trust me, I realize it's not as
• 46:19
  simple as just making the decision.
• 46:21
  It's it's a profound thing. You make that decision and then
• 46:26
  you build upon that. And you know, for instance, if
• 46:28
  you've gone through something really traumatic Kind of build
• 46:32
  from that point onwards and you're like, okay I'm going to
• 46:35
  build my strength, I'm gonna, you know, help other people I'm
• 46:39
  going to you know not let this defeat me as you said have the
• 46:43
  Champions mindset, you know, and build upon that and move forward
• 46:46
  with your life. But it's it's a journey and it's
• 46:51
  It's Tricky and you know, When I look at my own life, for
• 46:55
  instance, I often try to channel my difficult times in two things
• 47:01
  that I do. So, like from going through a
• 47:03
  hard time I put into music or Channel it into a performance of
• 47:09
  some description or whatever the case may be.
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  I mean, sometimes I hit it sounds unhealthy but it's just
• 47:14
  my way of dealing with things. If it gets really bad I just
• 47:18
  bury my head in work. Stay busy, keep myself busy,
• 47:22
  have some sort of a I think especially with some of those
• 47:29
  addictions that we would discuss in earlier things like drinking
• 47:33
  a lot more drugs in general. I mean obviously Inevitably
• 47:40
  people going to say oh what it's a coping mechanism sometimes it
• 47:43
  can be a because we have too much time on our hands as crazy
• 47:47
  as that sounds. I said my advice generally and I
• 47:50
  know it won't work for everyone but whenever people ask me for
• 47:54
  advice that when they're going through a difficult time I just
• 47:56
  say State stay busy, find yourself stuff to do and and get
• 48:01
  in the business of doing things and it doesn't matter what it
• 48:04
  is. It doesn't happen that when you
• 48:05
  say that people assume you mean like work, it doesn't have to
• 48:08
  just mean work it. I mean just okay well I'm going
• 48:11
  to make sure to clean my house. Every single day will make the
• 48:14
  bed every single day and get myself out and go for a walk
• 48:18
  every day and you fill your day up with things and then by the
• 48:21
  end you don't have time to sit down and and like feel bad but
• 48:27
  here's the thing. This is an important caveat, you
• 48:30
  can't avoid that stuff either. You've got a sit down and work
• 48:36
  through that stuff eventually either.
• 48:39
  With the therapist or by yourself or, you know, whatever
• 48:43
  works for you, but it's all about getting into that head
• 48:47
  space, where you're able to do that until we're in that
• 48:51
  headspace often. That's where we fall off and we
• 48:55
  end up doing things like, you know, having a drink like, for
• 48:58
  example, that, I mean II do not big on drinking as I said
• 49:02
  earlier. But you know, I'm praying to it
• 49:04
  sometimes if I feel bad. I know.
• 49:06
  I know I know how stupid that is because How is it depression?
• 49:10
  And if you feel depressed already, it's got to make it ten
• 49:13
  times worse. And yet you still go into that
• 49:16
  thinking. Oh, well whatever.
• 49:18
  Like, you know, gonna do this and get out and I don't know.
• 49:21
  Yeah, you convince yourself with things that are unlikely like or
• 49:24
  maybe I'll go out to this bar and I'll meet someone and it'll
• 49:28
  be great. And it's like really will that
• 49:30
  really happen? No.
• 49:33
  And not so much because you don't have luck or you know
• 49:37
  those things never happened to me.
• 49:39
  A or whatever. No, it will be because you have
• 49:41
  the wrong mindset. You know.
• 49:46
  As you say in that positive headspace, but it's so much more
• 49:49
  than that. Like I think when people hear
• 49:50
  the word positivity being positive, you know I've said
• 49:54
  this before. So my listeners probably bored
• 49:57
  of me saying this but I said this years ago that yeah, I used
• 50:01
  to be a negative person really - and a young point in my life as
• 50:06
  well. I was in my late teens, early
• 50:08
  20s at a time when you'd think all its life ahead of him, he
• 50:12
  surely you be excited. Know I was depressed hated my
• 50:15
  life. And a lot of that came down to
• 50:19
  fear, not pursuing the things. I should have been pursuing at
• 50:22
  the time, feeling unfulfilled, low self-esteem, etc, etc, etc.
• 50:28
  Right? But the key thing that was
• 50:30
  holding me back. Was that - mindset?
• 50:33
  Because it's not like there wasn't positive people around.
• 50:36
  There were a few here and there and they were like, a breath of
• 50:39
  fresh air and they would say things and I knew they were
• 50:42
  right. But I'd be like yeah, whatever
• 50:44
  that's never gonna happen. Oh yeah, whatever, you know.
• 50:48
  And then something just snapped where and this was my point of
• 50:52
  Reckoning where I just got so sick and tired of being
• 50:58
  depressed. That I was like, you know what?
• 51:00
  I'm just gonna Don't do something and I think I went to
• 51:05
  some gig somewhere it someplace that was familiar to me and I
• 51:10
  met a friend like what? I made a friend that night and
• 51:14
  then Things kind of spiraled from there, like I told with her
• 51:19
  band a little bit went to America for a little bit, did
• 51:22
  all these different things in the space of that year and
• 51:27
  slowly. My mindset began to change very
• 51:31
  slowly and then incidentally, that was the year that I Venture
• 51:34
  Ali went to University as well. So it took, it wasn't straight
• 51:39
  away. But there was something that
• 51:42
  happened needed to happen in order for me to get to that
• 51:46
  point and do something about it. But it was.
• 51:52
  A journey and it took a bit of time.
• 51:54
  And you know, I wouldn't have even said that I was immediately
• 51:57
  positive. It's just I started to think
• 51:59
  more positively. So when people would present
• 52:01
  ideas to me or opportunities would come my way, instead of
• 52:05
  going that won't work. That's stupid.
• 52:08
  I'd be like, let's give it a try.
• 52:10
  Let's see what happens. I don't know, I've never tried
• 52:14
  like right now. That's my Approach even if I
• 52:16
  feel like that won't work I'm like well how do you know you
• 52:19
  haven't tried. So Jay you know that staying
• 52:24
  open and you know Christian that's a muscle that's a muscle
• 52:27
  so this idea that affirmations if I just tell myself right I'm
• 52:31
  skinny I'm rich I'm happy. That's I understand why positive
• 52:37
  thinking gets a bad rap because that's not going to change
• 52:40
  anything I guess ultimately. Natalie one day it could cause
• 52:44
  us to be open to want to believe it, but to the point of
• 52:48
  believing that it could be possible, that's where the
• 52:52
  change. And that's where the positivity
• 52:54
  begins to take shape and that's where the muscle begins to get
• 52:58
  developed. And then once we have that
• 53:00
  muscle, to your point when we're open, and we can think about
• 53:05
  even if our initial is, I'm not going to make it.
• 53:09
  Doctor just said that I'm not going to make it.
• 53:12
  Wait, wait. Wait, what if because if we go
• 53:15
  down that track, we're done. But what if and you just made
• 53:20
  that decision, you just made that switch.
• 53:23
  Let's be open. It's a muscle.
• 53:25
  It's a muscle to be developed and it's like I remember being
• 53:29
  in the gym and somebody said, you know, now you're doing this
• 53:33
  arm exercise and they said, now really feel that tricep and it's
• 53:36
  like tricep. I don't think I was born The
• 53:39
  tricep I don't have a tricep same thing with abs, I don't
• 53:42
  think I was bored with abs. We're all born with it.
• 53:46
  It's just, is it developed? Have we developed it?
• 53:49
  Do we know how to develop it? Can we find it within?
• 53:52
  So everybody has that ability. This is where the mindset
• 53:57
  performance coaching comes in. Because everybody has the
• 53:59
  ability to capability and yet, not everybody knows how to
• 54:04
  access it. So Christians, you were
• 54:06
  mentioning, so the mindset started I had to change.
• 54:10
  Sometimes, it can change quicker than other times.
• 54:13
  The point is, is to turn ourselves and be open to it.
• 54:18
  And this idea of, you know, do we want to go this way?
• 54:21
  Do we want to go this way? Somebody asked me even in the
• 54:25
  time in which I was diagnosed. They said, you know, what do you
• 54:30
  believe that your chance of surviving will be?
• 54:34
  And I said, and I said this, I said this, you're going to love
• 54:38
  this. Because at the time this was
• 54:40
  true for me, the time it was true for me because this is
• 54:43
  where my mind was set. And this is what I said.
• 54:47
  I don't want to survive. I want to thrive, I didn't come
• 54:53
  here to survive. I didn't go through this just
• 54:57
  simply to survive. I came through this to come out
• 55:02
  on the other side. Stronger better bigger and not
• 55:08
  in those words specifically, but when we think about it, we come
• 55:11
  into a circumstance and then it looks like we hit the skids and
• 55:15
  then many people just want to get out of that and go back to
• 55:19
  where they were no even in the world.
• 55:22
  Today we come in, we hit the skids.
• 55:26
  What would it look like to rise above and go beyond and come
• 55:31
  out? Even better on the other side.
• 55:34
  So when we look at, no matter what happens because all of us
• 55:37
  have our stories, that's just one of my stories, right?
• 55:41
  Like how do we find the pony in the big pile of manure?
• 55:45
  Everybody's going to have a big pile of manure.
• 55:48
  Hey, we're in a big pile of manure worldwide right now.
• 55:51
  Everybody's living in a big pile of manure, no matter where
• 55:54
  you're living. No.
• 55:56
  Matter what's no matter where you are in the world, we're all
• 56:00
  in a big pile of manure right now.
• 56:03
  So the question is, would you be willing to find the pony in it,
• 56:07
  right? Because if there's a big pile of
• 56:08
  manure, there's got to be a pony in here somewhere and that was a
• 56:13
  story that my dad told me when I was eight that you know two
• 56:17
  little boys, both in a room filled with manure, they were
• 56:22
  identical twins scientists. Wanted to see how they would
• 56:26
  react to the circumstance. One was mad as hell.
• 56:32
  Put me in a big pile of manure. This was the worst day of my
• 56:35
  life. The other one was playing in the
• 56:38
  manure. Happy as could be.
• 56:41
  And when they went to that little boy, they said, what are
• 56:44
  you doing in this big pile of manure?
• 56:47
  And the little boy said, well, with this much manure, this is
• 56:50
  the greatest day of my life. There's got to be a pony in here
• 56:53
  somewhere. And that is the story in which I
• 57:00
  have led my life not since I was 8, but since I realized what
• 57:06
  that story really means, there's got to be a pony in here
• 57:10
  somewhere. So even through that diagnosis,
• 57:12
  that I share The idea that what could be the good, where could I
• 57:18
  mind the good? What could be the good that
• 57:20
  could come from this and Christian?
• 57:22
  The good that came from? It was I got to see very clearly
• 57:26
  why I'm here. I believe that if I went
• 57:30
  through, what I went through, and if I was able to help one
• 57:33
  person in their life than it would have been a journey
• 57:36
  worthwhile. And Christian to your question a
• 57:40
  little while ago, in that Journey, that's where I was able
• 57:44
  to really see how all of this works.
• 57:49
  And to recognize how we can find ourselves to a different space
• 57:55
  and place, get to the other side of wherever we are, is
• 57:58
  everybody's got their stuff, everybody's got, their stuff,
• 58:02
  they're living in, or have lived in.
• 58:05
  And the idea is what could be a formula for success to go
• 58:09
  through it, rise above it, and go beyond it.
• 58:12
  And that's what I created in the program, called Elevate.
• 58:17
  And so that is what I teach. Is how I coach that is, you
• 58:21
  know, there's a framework where we begin the process of really
• 58:26
  knowing the formulas. Like, I give you the recipe to
• 58:29
  bake a cake and you have the recipe.
• 58:33
  And now we go into the kitchen. And now we start baking cakes
• 58:36
  until we're really good at baking cakes.
• 58:39
  And that's where the Mastery resides.
• 58:41
  So whether it's an elevator program, I have Elevate the work
• 58:44
  with clients one-on-one, and, and then We take it up a notch
• 58:51
  or two to Mastery results. Mastering how to really create
• 58:56
  the results that we would love to create and most importantly
• 59:00
  You know, there's a saying that it's not about the destination,
• 59:03
  it's about the journey and it is about creating results, right?
• 59:08
  How we have this blank canvas called this year.
• 59:11
  What will you? And I create right.
• 59:14
  We have this book that has yet to be written in the rest of
• 59:17
  this year and Beyond and you and I are the author's.
• 59:21
  Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that comes in that we would
• 59:24
  never have put in that chapter. But ultimately were the authors
• 59:29
  of that Book of Life. And so that's the work that I
• 59:33
  do. And that's what I am here to do.
• 59:36
  And really help people tap into their truest potential to rise
• 59:39
  above, go beyond and live happier, healthier more
• 59:44
  fulfilling lives of joy and no matter what comes our way.
• 59:49
  So it's not a Pollyanna approach of just thinking, positive being
• 59:52
  positive. It's about running to the day
• 59:56
  being so passionate about living this day to be fully alive.
• 1:00:00
  I've that that champion mindset. What could we create in this day
• 1:00:05
  for ourselves and others? We've been your kind of biggest
• 1:00:11
  success stories so far terms of helping businesses people out
• 1:00:15
  what the kind of most memorable instances that stand out where
• 1:00:20
  you're able to really help someone or an entity of company
• 1:00:24
  transform themselves. Yeah, it's a brilliant question
• 1:00:28
  because where I help people We'll really focus in business.
• 1:00:31
  The results that come back fruit of it has so much to do with
• 1:00:35
  relationships, with passion, for living, with health and
• 1:00:42
  wellness. And for me, it's like planting
• 1:00:46
  the seeds in a garden and watching all these beautiful
• 1:00:48
  flowers bloom. That's really when I work with
• 1:00:52
  people. That's what I see is.
• 1:00:53
  We plant all these seeds and watch these extraordinary
• 1:00:57
  results happen in every area of life.
• 1:01:00
  It's whether it's personally, whether it's relationally,
• 1:01:04
  whether it's just the Peace and Freedom, I would say the number
• 1:01:09
  one theme has to do with freedom living a life fully free, right?
• 1:01:16
  Like being free, there's this this idea that, you know, it's
• 1:01:23
  like we all have our in these little prisons that we built for
• 1:01:26
  ourselves or that have been built for us in one way or or
• 1:01:30
  the other. And so this idea of really
• 1:01:32
  Breaking Free, but specifically, let's think so many people who
• 1:01:39
  because it's about designing the life, you'd love to live.
• 1:01:43
  So many people literally redesigning their life, moving
• 1:01:46
  to different cities, going into different works and building
• 1:01:51
  businesses, that thrive for sure, but I'll tell you one
• 1:01:56
  that's coming to mind, is I had a client who Working in
• 1:02:00
  business. And as we sat down, and I did
• 1:02:03
  the intake session just to see how every element of her life
• 1:02:07
  was. She said, before we get started,
• 1:02:09
  I just want to tell you that my husband and I are getting a
• 1:02:12
  divorce and there's nothing that's going to change that.
• 1:02:15
  And I just need you to know as my coach that I'm also dealing
• 1:02:19
  with this stuff on the side because we were just there for
• 1:02:21
  business and and that's what's happening for me.
• 1:02:26
  They are now happier than they've ever been.
• 1:02:30
  They didn't end up getting the divorce, she sold her business,
• 1:02:35
  which was part of her plan. And now retired in a beautiful
• 1:02:41
  place on the coast living a life that she could have only dreamed
• 1:02:45
  about or imagined before we work together.
• 1:02:49
  So that's one that's just one that comes to mind but that's
• 1:02:52
  pretty that's pretty indicative of the Results when I work with
• 1:02:58
  people that they step in to a life of their dreams and one
• 1:03:02
  that they absolutely love living that they wake up every day.
• 1:03:06
  It's just like Pinch Me. Am I Dreaming?
• 1:03:10
  Even when the world has gone nuts?
• 1:03:14
  Even in, even, in the way, in which the world is today,
• 1:03:18
  they're living lives of their dreams and loving every day that
• 1:03:24
  they're alive. How has your work and your line
• 1:03:28
  of work, helped your personal relationships and I with your
• 1:03:32
  husband, your children Etc. Like how how has it helped you
• 1:03:37
  benefit? So it's really fun.
• 1:03:40
  It's really brilliant Christian, how it's helped.
• 1:03:43
  Me is what I know is that anyone who is before me is there as my
• 1:03:49
  teacher to, you know, it's feedback I get to learn because
• 1:03:54
  I get to witness and I get to for me, personally, anything
• 1:04:01
  that I share with a client for that in my group coaching
• 1:04:05
  programs, anything I asked of another I would never ask of
• 1:04:10
  another if I'm not doing it myself.
• 1:04:13
  So when I can recognize others and the challenges they're
• 1:04:17
  having and I share with them, the help that I can bring them
• 1:04:22
  Shine the spotlight. I also take that Spotlight and I
• 1:04:25
  look at see how how it is for me, what's happening in my life,
• 1:04:30
  if I just shared that to help someone, is that information
• 1:04:34
  that can apply for me. And so, you know, there's a
• 1:04:38
  client that I'm going to be with a little later today and I'm
• 1:04:42
  very aware of what we're going to be speaking about today, and
• 1:04:46
  I get to sit with that even before we go into our session
• 1:04:50
  and ask and look and see. Where might that apply for me?
• 1:04:55
  And so, when I share anything with anyone, I do my very best
• 1:05:03
  to see how I can put that into play in my own life.
• 1:05:07
  Where am I in my life and my really walking the walk?
• 1:05:11
  Or am I just talking the talk? And there's about 20 years ago?
• 1:05:15
  I decided, you know what, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to
• 1:05:18
  show up to be the best that I can be to create a life that I
• 1:05:23
  love living. And it's Not about perfection.
• 1:05:26
  I still have stuff happened in my life.
• 1:05:29
  I still have, you know, I'm human.
• 1:05:31
  And yet who will I become in the midst of it?
• 1:05:35
  Well, I rise or will I fall? And if I start to take a free
• 1:05:39
  fall I catch myself. And rise again and that's the
• 1:05:43
  work that I bring. So it's helped me in my, my
• 1:05:46
  relationship with my husband to your point about the woman who
• 1:05:50
  still wants to grow her relationship.
• 1:05:54
  We're in a very, very, very pivotal time of change, and
• 1:05:59
  things are elevating. And I believe that those who
• 1:06:04
  believe they've gotten this far on, where they whatever they've
• 1:06:10
  done previously, We'll get lost. If they don't keep going to the
• 1:06:18
  gym. So to speak in every area of
• 1:06:21
  their life. There are really, really, really
• 1:06:23
  successful Fortune 100 CEOs that have made it to the top been
• 1:06:30
  done, very well. And we're now entering into a
• 1:06:33
  time where this mindset this going within this expansion,
• 1:06:39
  inner expansion will be imperative To continue moving
• 1:06:45
  forward. If they don't do it, they'll get
• 1:06:48
  lost in the shuffle so we can never just rest on our Laurels.
• 1:06:53
  Like we've come this far and where there doesn't work that
• 1:06:56
  way. We've come this far.
• 1:06:57
  And guess what? Today we're not opening the door
• 1:07:00
  for where we go from here. I can't agree more with you.
• 1:07:05
  Yeah and if somebody's like what, wait a minute I must have
• 1:07:08
  just you know, I am not on the train, I must have missed the
• 1:07:12
  train because Because like she's on a Super Shuttle and I must
• 1:07:16
  have missed the Super Shuttle. No, no, no.
• 1:07:20
  Wherever someone is in, this moment is exactly where they are
• 1:07:24
  to be in this moment. And in this moment, there is an
• 1:07:27
  opportunity to decide that they're open and they'd love to
• 1:07:32
  go beyond. And In This Moment is, when we
• 1:07:36
  can decide, where would we love to be on the other side of this?
• 1:07:42
  And then believe, it could be possible, start to come from
• 1:07:45
  that live within it. Take the actions necessary and
• 1:07:48
  when we get off track, come back on track, remind ourselves.
• 1:07:52
  Start to go this way, come back, come back to Center, you know,
• 1:07:57
  Christian in this time it's a time in which people can be very
• 1:08:02
  fear filled And as I mentioned that the story that I shared 20
• 1:08:09
  years ago, I've had people say, how did you do that?
• 1:08:13
  So fearlessly even people who were with me, they like how did
• 1:08:18
  you do that? There was just no fear.
• 1:08:21
  It's not true, There Was Fear, it's just the ability to look at
• 1:08:29
  fear straight in the face. Face the fear and move forward.
• 1:08:36
  Anyway, wasn't that I didn't have fear fear sneaked in and
• 1:08:40
  specially in the middle of the night.
• 1:08:42
  When it's dark fear can come in and try to get a hold of us.
• 1:08:50
  It's not the idea that fear won't exist.
• 1:08:52
  It's the idea that when the fears rise, what will we do with
• 1:08:56
  that, how will we navigate it? And how will we look at straight
• 1:09:00
  on head on? And keep moving forward.
• 1:09:04
  Anyway, that's the sign of courage and so was their
• 1:09:09
  courage, yes. And right now more than ever is
• 1:09:13
  courage needed. Is Faith needed is trust in the
• 1:09:17
  process needed and a vision of what could be possible on the
• 1:09:22
  other side of, where anybody is in this moment.
• 1:09:25
  That's the direction. That's the focus, that's the
• 1:09:28
  first first things first. What?
• 1:09:31
  Could it look like and what I believe it and what I decide?
• 1:09:35
  Just decide for it today. That's the beginning of the
• 1:09:39
  journey. So what are the things you tell
• 1:09:42
  yourself when you feel fear? Like, when you were dealing with
• 1:09:47
  that? What did you keep telling
• 1:09:49
  yourself? How did you keep keep going?
• 1:09:53
  So I could recognize it was fear and I recognized it as an
• 1:09:57
  opponent and I recognized it as what it was.
• 1:10:02
  We've heard the acronym before, false evidence appearing.
• 1:10:06
  Real it appeared really real And there was a time in which I was
• 1:10:11
  five years old where when I was falling asleep one night and
• 1:10:18
  opened up my eyes in the corner of my room.
• 1:10:22
  I could see what looked like a monster scared me to death.
• 1:10:26
  Like I'm still alive but it was scary.
• 1:10:29
  Five years old, very scary and look like a monster standing in
• 1:10:34
  my room. And I yelled for my mother, I
• 1:10:37
  cried out and I cried and I'm rushed in and I said there's a
• 1:10:43
  monster in the corner and she turned on the light and there
• 1:10:46
  was no monster. And she said, go back to sleep.
• 1:10:52
  She left the room and I saw it again, and she rushed back in.
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  And this time, she didn't turn on the light.
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  She just said, show me, where's the monster?
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  And he said, it's in the corner and what was in the corner, was
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  a coat rack that day. My mother and I have been
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  shopping and she bought me a balloon and tied it to my coat
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  rack. So, there was a balloon and my
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  coat rack. And when the lights were turned,
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  Off, it looked like a monster. It was my imagination.
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  Fortunately my mother was there to then turn on the light and
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  show me what this monster really was.
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  It was false evidence appearing real.
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  Now we can see that and once my mother showed me what it was
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  then I could realize that's just a figment of my imagination and
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  when fears come, they really are a figment of our imaginations.
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  And so now what I do is I Share with myself a coach myself and I
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  surround myself with people who don't believe in Monsters and
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  especially back, then you asked how did I do it?
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  Then is, if I surrounded myself with people who didn't believe
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  in Monsters and I recognized from the story, when I was
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  little, wait, turn the light on that, is not real.
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  And looking at it in the face monster, you are not real fear,
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  you're not even real. You want me to believe this.
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  You want me to go down? You want me to have drama?
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  You want me to be upset? You want me to be rattled?
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  I'm not going to do it. Not going to do it and I'm
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  human. Can I be afraid?
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  Yes, I can. And then this is where I have
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  this conversation to have a dialogue with the fear.
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  Now, I'm not going there. I'm going to stay on my track.
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  And believe trust and faith and be open to all things possible.
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  Thank you for sharing. What's the best advice you've
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  ever received? I received some really good
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  advice, but the one that's coming to me, that I think is
• 1:13:12
  here for all of us in this moment of time I moved like this
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  is just touched my heart and moved at the soul level.
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  The best that I've ever received is to not fight a circumstance.
• 1:13:29
  My coach, when I was diagnosed my business coach and I called
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  him and I said, I'm mad as hell. This isn't supposed to be
• 1:13:36
  happening, you know, I just was so mad and he said, Patricia
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  don't fight this. Don't fight this embrace it
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  finally good within it. Rise above and go beyond it.
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  And when he said these words Christian the type of diagnosis
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  I received was one that we have this idea that we're going to
• 1:14:04
  fight the fight fight against cancer, but this fight it
• 1:14:10
  Anything you fight pushes back creates more of it, greatest
• 1:14:16
  advice. He gave me and I said to him, I
• 1:14:18
  thought we were supposed to be fighting this and he said if you
• 1:14:21
  fight this to the conversation we just had earlier basically
• 1:14:25
  you'd be going into the Alligator Pit.
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  And you would be up against a real opponent that you may not
• 1:14:35
  make it out of embrace this Gleaming the gold from it.
• 1:14:41
  Make the best of it not just rolling over but find the good
• 1:14:47
  in it. Find the good stay with it long
• 1:14:50
  enough to find the good because once we find the good this is
• 1:14:54
  our key to rise above and beyond Again, amazing stuff.
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  Yeah, I'm so so grateful to to be a token with you on these
• 1:15:05
  things. Thank you.
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  This is always my favorite question to ask all of my
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  guests. What's the biggest life lesson
• 1:15:13
  you've learned so far? It's some good ones for sure.
• 1:15:29
  Really grass, life lessons, I've learned is that there's always
• 1:15:34
  more to know, there's always more to grow just when you think
• 1:15:37
  you've got it. There's more And the with that
• 1:15:44
  is the idea that there's a power within each and every one of us.
• 1:15:48
  Like each one of us was born. Specifically like I liken it to
• 1:15:58
  a snowflake, right? Like there's never the same
• 1:16:01
  snowflake that's ever fallen out of the sky that will ever fall
• 1:16:06
  again. Like, when you look at your
• 1:16:07
  fingerprint, there's never been another one of you.
• 1:16:10
  There's never been another one of me ever in the history of
• 1:16:14
  human beings. And there never will be another
• 1:16:17
  one. And so the greatest life lesson
• 1:16:21
  to know is we're here for a reason, we're here for a purpose
• 1:16:25
  and there is a power within us that when we tap into that, we
• 1:16:31
  have the opportunity to live our fullest and live, our finest,
• 1:16:38
  the life of fulfillment, and live, a life of joy and service.
• 1:16:45
  And that's one of my greatest life lessons is that we are
• 1:16:49
  unique and we are perfect in our uniqueness and that there is a
• 1:16:54
  genius that resides within each of us.
• 1:16:58
  And that, when we are open to that, when we Embrace that, That
• 1:17:05
  is the key to live the life that we were meant to be.
• 1:17:12
  You so much for sharing as we draw to a close today.
• 1:17:16
  I mean I'll personally I wish this would never end.
• 1:17:19
  It's such a great conversation. Do you have any upcoming
• 1:17:22
  projects or final thoughts you'd like to share with our
• 1:17:25
  listeners? Well, I do have some projects
• 1:17:30
  that are coming up and it is about creating a greater
• 1:17:34
  elevation. So my whole purpose is helping
• 1:17:38
  people rise, right? And so some of the projects that
• 1:17:42
  are coming up, I do have several in the works, but one of them
• 1:17:46
  that I'm really passionate about, that will grow greater is
• 1:17:53
  something that I have called The Happiness Project.
• 1:17:57
  And a Happiness Project is not just about that positive
• 1:18:01
  thinking. It's not just about, you know,
• 1:18:04
  trying to be happy, although it has to do with happiness.
• 1:18:10
  It is that calm confidence. It's knowing how to build the
• 1:18:14
  part of our brain that actually creates peace within our heart.
• 1:18:20
  No matter what's happening in the world.
• 1:18:23
  So this is about happiness, creating greater happiness.
• 1:18:26
  A penis which creates greater Health which creates greater
• 1:18:30
  productivity. But more than anything, it
• 1:18:32
  creates greater balance and Harmony so that we can have our
• 1:18:37
  grounding have our footing. No matter what happens in our
• 1:18:42
  world, whether it's in our families communities business,
• 1:18:46
  or the World At Large, how we can have peace, how we can live
• 1:18:50
  from Joy and how we can create that happiness within even if
• 1:18:55
  this is the only day that Have to create that happiness, how
• 1:18:59
  can we live our fullest in this moment and so I've created a
• 1:19:06
  happiness guide. It's My some of my favorite
• 1:19:10
  steps and keys to create greater happiness expansion and greater
• 1:19:16
  light about light higher frequency, higher Vibe greater
• 1:19:20
  expansion. It's my seven keys and from that
• 1:19:24
  it will be created into a book. And it is part of the program
• 1:19:28
  and Elevate that I teach in group coaching and in private
• 1:19:32
  coaching. And I will have a digital
• 1:19:34
  program coming soon. Actually.
• 1:19:37
  It's that at home at home with Patricia, it's pretty in a Best
• 1:19:43
  Buy best of luck with that. I mean yeah, based on just our
• 1:19:47
  conversation today, I think. People can really benefit from
• 1:19:53
  from working with you. So I think there's a lot of I
• 1:19:56
  endorse this I would say that and thank you.
• 1:20:02
  Oh thank you. It's been it's been a real
• 1:20:05
  pleasure just talking to you learning about your life and
• 1:20:09
  what you do and Yeah, thank you for thank you very much for
• 1:20:14
  sharing your experiences and your time with us Christian and
• 1:20:19
  Christian may I ask you what do you have going on?
• 1:20:23
  What's next for you? Where do I have guide on what
• 1:20:28
  their Vision? Christian, what's your vision?
• 1:20:30
  What's next? That really expands your heart
• 1:20:35
  and fills you with joy and causes you Such happiness in
• 1:20:42
  your heart, anything on your radar.
• 1:20:45
  It was funny as the um, Last couple of years, I got back into
• 1:20:52
  all of this stuff and in 2019, I was just working in my field of
• 1:20:58
  marketing. That's why study that uni.
• 1:21:00
  And yeah, I was just doing whatever, you know, I was just
• 1:21:04
  working and I wasn't, wasn't unhappy, wasn't happy.
• 1:21:07
  I was just kind of in the middle and then inevitably that moment
• 1:21:11
  came when I was just kind of like, and, you know, and
• 1:21:14
  everyone knows the story about from then to now, so I won't
• 1:21:18
  repeat it. But What I will say is that even
• 1:21:22
  in this last year, even though the last couple of months, I was
• 1:21:27
  so sure, I knew what I was doing and where things were going in
• 1:21:31
  ETC. And with everything that we
• 1:21:33
  spoken about today is interesting because You can be
• 1:21:38
  so sure of where you think things are heading and what
• 1:21:42
  you're supposed to be doing and then things kind of get flipped
• 1:21:46
  up on you. So to answer the question in a
• 1:21:50
  basic sense, you know like yeah you know I want to be an actor
• 1:21:53
  voice, actor, podcast, in musician, Etc.
• 1:21:57
  You know, I got all these goals and things I want to do with my
• 1:21:59
  life but I was getting so caught up on.
• 1:22:03
  I need to be successful, I need to do this.
• 1:22:05
  I need to do that and it was just making me unhappy.
• 1:22:07
  To be perfectly honest with you and I've cut some things out my
• 1:22:11
  life now that we're making me unhappy, and I've tweaked a few
• 1:22:14
  things changed, a few things. And the funny thing is this
• 1:22:20
  podcast, I'm doing now, I started it with no particular
• 1:22:25
  Rhyme or Reason. I just knew I wanted to do a
• 1:22:27
  podcast. and, I don't know what it is but I feel like this is
• 1:22:34
  the thing that's, I don't know, because one thing I would love
• 1:22:40
  which I think would connect with, this is I would love to
• 1:22:44
  make documentaries. I would love to create, you
• 1:22:49
  know. Content that would benefit a lot
• 1:22:52
  of people. And I think that I'm already
• 1:22:56
  doing that with this podcast to an extent because when I first
• 1:22:59
  started it I didn't have a particular plan mind.
• 1:23:03
  I just thought, I don't know. I guess I'll talk about some
• 1:23:06
  things from my life. I can talk at length and then I
• 1:23:11
  started interviewing people and you know it was as you expect I
• 1:23:15
  mean anyone can go back and listen to the older episodes.
• 1:23:18
  I wasn't as confident that talking to people learn alone
• 1:23:22
  interviewing people. And then, you know, you keep
• 1:23:25
  doing it. Keep doing it, keep doing that,
• 1:23:27
  get better and better and better.
• 1:23:28
  And then eventually things started to click and you start
• 1:23:31
  realizing What you're supposed to be doing and you know funnily
• 1:23:35
  enough, I had a experience recently where I was sitting up
• 1:23:39
  Hub in a bar, just having a drink and someone was quizzing
• 1:23:42
  me about why I do my podcast and how I get my guests and stuff
• 1:23:47
  and they were they had a bit too much to drink and they were kind
• 1:23:50
  of unpleasant and I remember for a while just being upset about
• 1:23:55
  the encounter and everything and then once I kind of stopped
• 1:23:58
  being emotional and just had time to sit and think about it.
• 1:24:02
  One of the things that kept coming to me is what's the
• 1:24:04
  purpose of this? Why am I doing this?
• 1:24:07
  And I used to think it was, oh, I'm trying to be successful.
• 1:24:10
  I'm trying to, you know, become successful and trying to build a
• 1:24:15
  career and all of that stuff is true.
• 1:24:17
  But, you know, you have to have a bigger Point behind while all
• 1:24:23
  of what you're doing, I mean, take what you're doing, that's
• 1:24:25
  your life, it's your career, it's what you're good at it, but
• 1:24:28
  it's so much more than that. It's like you want to help
• 1:24:30
  people because, you know, that this stuff works because it
• 1:24:33
  worked for you and it's work for businesses and it can work for
• 1:24:36
  people and that's your gift to the world.
• 1:24:38
  That's how you help people and it works and it's something to
• 1:24:42
  believe it with what I do. I guess I just want to entertain
• 1:24:47
  people, I want to inspire people, I want to.
• 1:24:51
  Make people happy. I want to bring that into
• 1:24:53
  people's lives, and I think that Through acting and through music
• 1:24:59
  and through this that might be my way of doing that and you
• 1:25:04
  know every day is different. Every moment is different, you
• 1:25:08
  know, some days are more positive about it or some days,
• 1:25:11
  not so much but I think when I started to relax a bit more with
• 1:25:17
  this podcast and just enjoy the process, It started getting
• 1:25:22
  better. Like even you know, just the way
• 1:25:27
  I approach this, like I've said this for the last five or 10
• 1:25:30
  episodes. I've stopped even asking all the
• 1:25:33
  questions I have in front of me, you know, I see it more as like
• 1:25:36
  a guide like this is just trigger some stuff.
• 1:25:39
  But let's just focus on having a conversation with the person
• 1:25:41
  sitting across from me and just be in that moment and that's an
• 1:25:47
  incredible feeling. And you know, again once again I
• 1:25:49
  reiterate what I said before which is thank you so much for
• 1:25:52
  sharing, all your knowledge. Knowledge and expertise and just
• 1:25:57
  your stories because people listening to this and watching
• 1:26:01
  this will benefit from this I've benefited from this.
• 1:26:03
  And I think that That if nothing else is maybe the most important
• 1:26:11
  thing. So hearing Christian, thank you
• 1:26:19
  for sharing. You know your future is bright
• 1:26:23
  and sunny right in the pocket and the idea that we think it's
• 1:26:28
  going to be this way and then all of a sudden a curve ball
• 1:26:30
  comes in and it's that way. I thought my future was going
• 1:26:34
  this way and then I had a big curveball come in and now it's
• 1:26:37
  going this way and it is utilizing the gifts and talents
• 1:26:41
  and strengths that we have in just a little different way.
• 1:26:44
  And yet, I will share with you is even a greater impact, even a
• 1:26:48
  better way and even more fulfilling.
• 1:26:50
  It's just what I couldn't see because I was so into the
• 1:26:53
  success, right, success. Success money.
• 1:26:57
  All the fame and the fortune and all of it went, but wait a
• 1:27:01
  minute, there's more. And this is where we get the
• 1:27:03
  curveball and hopefully we'll hear the call.
• 1:27:09
  Of the curveball that's redirecting us to what is really
• 1:27:16
  designed and primed and right there for us and you are really
• 1:27:21
  gifted. You are very cold.
• 1:27:23
  It has been a joy to be with you Christian.
• 1:27:26
  Thank you, thank you, thank you for the opportunity and I look
• 1:27:29
  forward to hearing from you again and maybe even being
• 1:27:33
  together again, so we can have part 2 and to see where we can
• 1:27:36
  go from here. I would absolutely love that.
• 1:27:39
  And thank you so much for your time and this, yeah, it's been a
• 1:27:42
  real pleasure. And to all the listeners of the
• 1:27:45
  Christian re podcast, as always be safe.
• 1:27:48
  Be well, and I'll see you in the next.