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Florida's Attorney General Sits Down With Preston · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Speaker 1: Well, friends, here we are ruminators gathered together for the
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Speaker 1: first program in the month of August only show forty eight,
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Speaker 1: but who's counting. It's good to be with you this
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Speaker 1: morning on the Morning Show with Preston Scott, and as promised,
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Speaker 1: joining us is Florida's Attorney General, James Uthmeier.
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Speaker 2: A Ari you, sir, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: My pleasure. This is this is a delight to get
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Speaker 1: a chance to sit down. I was you know, when
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Speaker 1: Jay and I were talking about getting down the program.
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Speaker 1: I could not have possibly known the types of stories
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Speaker 1: that would unfold, that that that might rival what had
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Speaker 1: already unfolded in your tenure as Attorney general. What is
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Speaker 1: it that you have enjoyed most about serving in this capacity?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fighting for kids, putting bad guys away. We see
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Speaker 2: real results every day taking down child predators. There's a
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Speaker 2: lot of demented people going after kids today. Unlike the past.
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Speaker 2: It's not a white van driving around a neighborhood. That
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Speaker 2: would almost be easier. We see it. We got great
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Speaker 2: law enforcement, we would attack, we would take it down today.
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Speaker 2: It's on social media apps AI you know, online in
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Speaker 2: the back corners of bedrooms where parents don't even see it.
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Speaker 2: So we were about to announce our two thousand child
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Speaker 2: predator arrests since I've been in office, and we'll have many,
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Speaker 2: many more to come.
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Speaker 1: I think people gravitate to the types of things that
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Speaker 1: you're focused on because they are common sense. They are
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Speaker 1: things that the politics just sort of fades away. You know,
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Speaker 1: people that break the law, that harm children in to
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Speaker 1: the point you were just talking about. You know, they
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Speaker 1: need to be dealt with, and it's a serious problem.
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Speaker 1: But everything that you seem to be focused on falls
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Speaker 1: into the category of people out there reacting. At least
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Speaker 1: the email to me says, well, it's about time. Why
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Speaker 1: do you think that is well?
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Speaker 2: To me, law and order, public safety is common sense.
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Speaker 2: It's not republican, it's not democrat, it's not partisan. I
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Speaker 2: think taxpayers want the state's chief law enforcement officer, want
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Speaker 2: our law enforcement agencies to go prosecute cases. Why we
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Speaker 2: still have states and prosecutors out there letting people out
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Speaker 2: the back door and handing out, you know, get out
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Speaker 2: of jail free cards when they commit violent crimes again
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Speaker 2: and again and again. Doesn't make sense. So in the
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Speaker 2: last year and a half, and we already you know,
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Speaker 2: are the ag before me did a good job prosecuting people.
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Speaker 2: But we have increased our workload almost double. Our conviction
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Speaker 2: rate is now up almost fifty percent. Human trafficking and
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Speaker 2: child crimes are up sixty seventy percent. Our fentinyl and
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Speaker 2: large scale drug trafficking prosecutions are up five hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: And lo and behold, the state is reaching even record
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Speaker 2: low crime levels. Even with population, a growing economy, growing
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Speaker 2: big cities, we still have the lowest crime rates that
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Speaker 2: Florida has ever had in history. And it's not rocket science,
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Speaker 2: it's common sense. We prosecute bad guys, we put them away.
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Speaker 2: Law enforcement knows when they stick their neck out they're
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Speaker 2: not doing it in vain. We will finish the deal.
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Speaker 1: Governor Ron de Santas has been recognized as not just
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Speaker 1: the most conservative governor in the States, but the most
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Speaker 1: conservative governor in the history of this nation. And that's
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Speaker 1: not hyperbole, now, it's true. The Heartland Institute recognized him
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Speaker 1: as the most conservative governor ever. One of the things
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Speaker 1: the Governor has basically said, without maybe the words I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna phrase it in, it's not going to happen here
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Speaker 1: in Florida. This stuff might happen in other places, it's
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Speaker 1: just not gonna happen here. How is that translated to you?
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Speaker 1: Do you kind of see that and then say, okay,
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Speaker 1: what are areas in Florida that we're going to just
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Speaker 1: make sure we put a safeguard in here because we
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Speaker 1: see it in other states happening.
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Speaker 2: Well, we walk the walk. We don't just talk about
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Speaker 2: shutting down some of this ridiculous behavior. We do it
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Speaker 2: where the is of the world and so where people
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Speaker 2: want to shut down streets and damage businesses and shake
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Speaker 2: cars and scare people, attack people in the roads, we
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Speaker 2: don't tolerate that. And it starts with legislation. It's been
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Speaker 2: you know, six seven years since the governor was the
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Speaker 2: first in the country to lead the Anti Rioting Act. Yes,
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Speaker 2: but then we've got to put it into practice and
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Speaker 2: we go out and if people want to shut down
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Speaker 2: a roadway, we arrest them, We put them behind bars,
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Speaker 2: and we publicly send a message to others. Don't do
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Speaker 2: it here. We don't tolerate it. You want to go
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Speaker 2: to California and they'll let you, you know, take over
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Speaker 2: whole city, so be it. But not here in the
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Speaker 2: Free State of Florida. You got the right to be free,
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Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean break the law.
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Speaker 1: As the Attorney General was talking about, we're just not
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Speaker 1: going to have shutdowns of cities and streets and things
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Speaker 1: like that. I mentioned what happened over the weekend in
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Speaker 1: Hillsborough County, and I mean of all places, I seventy
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Speaker 1: five is not a place you want shut down. But
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Speaker 1: they had to shut down and they you know, a
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Speaker 1: bunch of kids showed up. How do you ensure stuff
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Speaker 1: like that just does not grow.
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Speaker 2: Well, You've got to make an example out of people.
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Speaker 2: But that's that's rule of law, enforcing the laws where
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Speaker 2: you arrest people. I know in that case where you
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Speaker 2: had some racing and loitering and you know if a
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Speaker 2: causeway was shut down. The charges are still unfolding, but
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Speaker 2: we're looking at probably some felonies, some misdemeanors. You've got
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Speaker 2: to prosecute cases, prosecute them to the fullest. You put
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Speaker 2: people in jail for a while, word's going to get
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Speaker 2: out and some other punk is not going to want
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Speaker 2: to go shut down a highway to race his car.
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Speaker 2: You got to nip it in the butt early. If
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Speaker 2: you enforce the law, quickly. You do it enough times,
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Speaker 2: people stopped coming around. You might remember these so called
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Speaker 2: teen takeovers everybody was talking about.
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Speaker 1: Well, I encountered one in North Alabama last week. It
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Speaker 1: was actually kind of scary, just in the middle of
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Speaker 1: kind of nowhere. There were hundreds of teenagers at a
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Speaker 1: convenience store and I looked at my son, we were
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Speaker 1: just traveling together, and said, nothing good's happening there. You
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Speaker 1: could smell the weed in the air and it was
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Speaker 1: not going to be good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, We've had a few of these bubble up in Florida,
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Speaker 2: and our investigation reveals, you know, this is not organic.
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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to get six buddies over or
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Speaker 2: for pizza on the same night of the week, you know,
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Speaker 2: to get everything arranged, getting you know, several hundred or
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Speaker 2: one thousand young people to all coalesce at the same
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Speaker 2: time in the same place. That is not organic. There's
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Speaker 2: definitely some mischief going on behind the scenes. We see
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Speaker 2: action on social media that's coordinating this. There's probably some
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Speaker 2: underlying you know, black world groups that are pushing some
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Speaker 2: of this on the black market. So we you know,
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Speaker 2: we are investigating that. But we arrested a lot of people,
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Speaker 2: and we prosecuted heavily, and now you don't see it
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Speaker 2: in Florida again. People know if you show up, if
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Speaker 2: you want to take over a downtown, take over a street,
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Speaker 2: we're going to crack down. We're going to send you
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Speaker 2: to jail, and you're going to do time. It's it's
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Speaker 2: really that simple. So here, I hope we can make
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Speaker 2: an example out of a couple of these street racers
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Speaker 2: early to save lives down the road.
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Speaker 1: You use the word investing gate. Obviously you're making a
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Speaker 1: lot of news right now as it relates to doctor
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Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci. Now, there's a various opinions out there, and
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Speaker 1: one of the opinions is that there's very little estates
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Speaker 1: going to be able to do. But another is that,
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Speaker 1: based on Fauci's diaries and so forth, what he's protecting
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Speaker 1: more than anything else is his ego and he doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to have to admit that he lied and so forth,
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Speaker 1: and that there is a mechanism available to force him
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Speaker 1: to testify or go to prison or face jail time.
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Speaker 1: What have your initial investigative efforts looked at and what
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Speaker 1: do you see?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think this diary and the revelations that have
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Speaker 2: come out over the last few weeks have provided the
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Speaker 2: most clear and explicit evidence of lies and deception. Right
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Speaker 2: what a lot of people believed for years, we now
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Speaker 2: know to be true that he questioned the safety and
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Speaker 2: efficacy of these so called medical treatments. He questioned whether
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Speaker 2: or not it was safe and a good idea to
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Speaker 2: be injecting children with these mRNA vaccines. He had a
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Speaker 2: lot of doubts, but he didn't share those with the public.
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Speaker 2: He nevertheless went forward publicly advising directing recommending the closure
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Speaker 2: of schools, of businesses, of churches, demanding the masking of individuals,
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Speaker 2: including kids that had minimal risk for serious infection. And
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Speaker 2: we also see where he was excited to be famous
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Speaker 2: and he was looking for self gain. I think Senator
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Speaker 2: Josh Holly highlighted evidence that he was making personal monetary
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Speaker 2: gains on the side separate and above from his government salary.
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Speaker 2: So where you have deception and you have injury and
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Speaker 2: there's a personal financial motive, that could be problematic. So
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Speaker 2: we're really going to focus on what he knew when
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Speaker 2: he knew it at the same time he's advising safety,
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Speaker 2: and what type of financial return he's getting out of
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Speaker 2: these lies and deception and talking about the injury. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's vaccines effects. We saw athletes falling on sports courts.
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Speaker 2: It's the harm to families, not being with the elderly
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Speaker 2: when they're passing away, not being with your first child
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Speaker 2: at birth. People suffered greatly and deserve accountability.
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Speaker 1: We had a call last week when I brought up
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Speaker 1: the subject of should Florida look into prosecuting doctor Fauci.
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Speaker 1: I had a woman call in husband in great health
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Speaker 1: two weeks after the vaccine died and there were no
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Speaker 1: underlying health conditions prior none, And I think, okay, is
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Speaker 1: he covered by his pardon or does his pardon need
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Speaker 1: to even need to be looked at?
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Speaker 2: The pardon has its own legal questions, but federal pardons
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Speaker 2: don't apply to state laws. I think that's why now
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Speaker 2: you got Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, and I'm more of a
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Speaker 2: couple other states, they're going to be digging into. People
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Speaker 2: deserve accountability. This was a sad moment in history. A
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Speaker 2: lot of pain, a lot of suffering. If all that
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Speaker 2: or a lot of that resulted from dishonest directives, there
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Speaker 2: needs to be accountability.
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Speaker 1: Floridattorney General James Uthmeyer with us this morning. How many
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Speaker 1: people mispronounce your name when they just see it, not
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Speaker 1: having heard it all.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hate to tell you, but it's actually eth Meyer.
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Speaker 2: It is. It is.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.
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Speaker 2: More people go back and forth. And you know, in Germany,
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Speaker 2: where my family hails from, you know, several generations ago,
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Speaker 2: you'd be saying it right. The natural Germanic tongue is ooh.
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Speaker 2: But my family made it ugh when they came over.
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Speaker 2: And nobody gets it right. The governor, he messes it up.
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Speaker 2: So I just kind of roll with the punches that
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Speaker 2: people don't need to know how to say it. They
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Speaker 2: just need to know to recognize it on a ballot, right,
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Speaker 2: it starts.
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Speaker 1: That's it?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Okay, good see now it's now it's one thousand and
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Speaker 1: one people mispronounced the name. You You posted something recently
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Speaker 1: that it was It was just kind of interesting to
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Speaker 1: me because of the subject matter, not that it was
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Speaker 1: on your radar, but you send a letter to the
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Speaker 1: Florida Conference of Catholic Bishops.
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Speaker 2: What was that about. Well, in Florida, you know, schools
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Speaker 2: have their vaccine requirements and schedules. But Florida state law,
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Speaker 2: the same law that every state follows, has exemptions that
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Speaker 2: have to be provided for people that have a religious
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Speaker 2: objection or a medical need for an exemption from the vaccines.
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Speaker 2: It's come to our tension or our office got a
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Speaker 2: lot of complaints and outreach that Florida's Catholic schools ironically
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Speaker 2: are not doing this. Now. They're not public schools, they're independent,
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Speaker 2: they're religious schools. So they've got a lot of independence
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Speaker 2: from the state for good reason. Sure, but they still
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Speaker 2: have to follow general legal requirements unless they cite that
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Speaker 2: their religious teaching, you know, disagrees with those requirements. And
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Speaker 2: there it's you know, generally the state cannot override those
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Speaker 2: religious tenets. Again for good reason. But here, I mean
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Speaker 2: Catholic teaching is written down, it's it's universal, it's online,
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Speaker 2: and for a long time, the Catholic Church is recognized
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Speaker 2: right to conscience, has respected pro life views here. A
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Speaker 2: lot of vaccines are derived from aboarded fetal lines and testing,
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Speaker 2: so we had a lot of pro life parents that
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Speaker 2: just it goes against their conscience and their faith to
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Speaker 2: administer these vaccines. So surprising that it's the Catholic Church
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Speaker 2: not respecting these legal requirements, the religious liberty, individual liberty
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Speaker 2: of a lot of their students. They could do this,
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Speaker 2: they could go off on their own way, but they
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Speaker 2: receive a lot of state funding, a lot of state scholarships,
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Speaker 2: a lot of families that you get grants from the
12:26
Speaker 2: state through the school choice program that go there. So
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Speaker 2: we've called on them. You know, why are you violating
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Speaker 2: state law. You know, if you have a good religious reason,
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Speaker 2: cite it. But there are many Catholic dioceses around the
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Speaker 2: country that are providing the exemption. So it's created a
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Speaker 2: lot of confusion. We need them to come forward and
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Speaker 2: either fix their ways and follow the law, don't jeopardize
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Speaker 2: the state scholarships, right or otherwise, you know, point to
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Speaker 2: the religious teaching that they're relying on when it comes
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Speaker 2: to not granted exemptions for people that have adverse medical
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Speaker 2: conditions that for whatever reason make them at risk for
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Speaker 2: the vaccine or otherwise have a very legitimate, you know,
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Speaker 2: religious objection. Not wanting a vaccine tied to an aborted
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Speaker 2: fetal cell line, to me, is very much a sincere
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Speaker 2: religious belief.
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Speaker 1: Well, you were mentioning in the break the issue of
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Speaker 1: the efficacy of vaccines in general, and that there's an
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Speaker 1: irony in there for those that don't want to be
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Speaker 1: with students that haven't been vaccinated.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, if people want to go get vaccinated, if
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Speaker 2: the parents you know, want this, sure do it, go
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Speaker 2: forward and do it. I think the parent is the
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Speaker 2: responsible party to make those medical decisions for kids. But
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Speaker 2: if you're vaccinated, you shouldn't have to worry about people
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Speaker 2: that choose not to for for whatever reason, health, religion. Otherwise,
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Speaker 2: if you're worried about still, you know, catching some sort
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Speaker 2: of contagion, then you're you're seeming to admit you don't
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Speaker 2: know that the vaccine works, which then further questions, why
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Speaker 2: should we be mandating them in the first place.
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Speaker 1: How does this How does this type of thing get
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Speaker 1: on your radar?
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Speaker 2: We get we get a lot of calls, you know,
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Speaker 2: people Our office fields a lot of consumer complaints. I
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Speaker 2: think the Attorney General is the leader in the state
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Speaker 2: to protect individual liberty of our citizens. So where people
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Speaker 2: aren't following the law, we hear about it very quickly.
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Speaker 2: I happen to be a Catholic, so I'm pretty well
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Speaker 2: versed on Catholic teaching, and sure in my personal capacity
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Speaker 2: can say here the church officials are just dead wrong.
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Speaker 2: I've read everything back to Aquinas, looking at the Catholic Catechism.
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Speaker 2: They're not right here. Now it's not the state that's
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Speaker 2: going to make that determination, but in my late capacity,
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Speaker 2: I can say they're dead wrong. So I hope they
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Speaker 2: get in line.
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Speaker 1: Voter integrity, voter fraud, What are the limits? What can
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Speaker 1: Florida do to make sure that at least Florida is
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Speaker 1: exactly where it's supposed to be, which of late has
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Speaker 1: been running great elections.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, we've come a long way in the
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Speaker 2: last eight years under the Dessantus administration. I would say
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Speaker 2: as a state, we have the most secure election systems
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Speaker 2: in the entire country. We've passed legislation. Buty was talking
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Speaker 2: about the Save Act in d C, which is common sense.
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Speaker 2: It has to get done. Florida has had most of
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Speaker 2: that in its election laws for several years now, and
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Speaker 2: I think all of it and then some came in
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Speaker 2: in the last bill last session. We also have the
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Speaker 2: first in the nation election Crimes Police Unit, so where
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Speaker 2: there is election fraud, we go out and we prosecute.
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Speaker 2: We announced a case last week. We've prosecuted over seventy
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Speaker 2: defendants at this point that have either voted twice, have
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Speaker 2: registered as non citizens, have voted in multiple jurisdictions. We're
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Speaker 2: putting people behind bars again. You got to send a
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Speaker 2: message we take this seriously. If you are going to
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Speaker 2: violate the sanctity of our elections, we will prosecute you
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Speaker 2: for crimes and you will do time. So election fraud
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Speaker 2: is real on Florida. We don't have a lot of
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Speaker 2: it because we do take it seriously. But anybody that
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Speaker 2: says it's not real, they're selling you a tail, is
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Speaker 2: absolutely real.
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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that more didn't come of twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: because there were I mean, whether it's Pennsylvania Supreme Court
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Speaker 1: throwing out ballots that the Supreme Court said save, whether
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Speaker 1: it's you know, affidavits of ballots crossing state lines. I
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Speaker 1: mean to me, there's ample evidence of fraud.
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Speaker 2: Oh, where you've got days or weeks waiting on results
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Speaker 2: and more boxes of ballots keeps showing up, it's got
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Speaker 2: to be ripe with fraud. It certainly questions the legitimacy
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Speaker 2: of elections. You know in California where they're waiting weeks
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Speaker 2: and weeks to call elections and all the votes that
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Speaker 2: come in or for the third place candidate. I mean,
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Speaker 2: give me a break.
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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you about that. Okay, you are
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Speaker 1: the top legal representative for our state. In the wake
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, Texas filed a lawsuit questioning the results
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Speaker 1: of what happened I think in Pennsylvania and so forth,
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Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court said you don't have standing. How
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Speaker 1: is it possible in a federal election for president that
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Speaker 1: any state doesn't have standing because we're all impacted by
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Speaker 1: any impropriety in another state. So, as attorney general, what's
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Speaker 1: your take on what the Supreme Court said there?
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Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you the Supreme Court tests my
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Speaker 2: faith and rule of law every day, certainly this year.
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Speaker 2: It's very clear that where election abuse in one state
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Speaker 2: is going to impact another, as does happen with the election,
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Speaker 2: then there is a state versus state claim, which our
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Speaker 2: law says is original jurisdiction to the Supreme Court. So
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Speaker 2: I do believe there was injury there. Obviously they didn't
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Speaker 2: rule the way we wanted. We're going to have to
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Speaker 2: keep finding new ways to fight. But let me say this,
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Speaker 2: we can't be thinking about how to fix the problem
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Speaker 2: on the back end. You know, when the votes are
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Speaker 2: cast and awards are given out, judges are very very
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Speaker 2: hesitant to go and start flipping and overturning elections. And
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Speaker 2: then a lot of government officials, you know, once the
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Speaker 2: elections said and done, they're busy. They have a lot
17:45
Speaker 2: on their plates, so they say, well, we're going to
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Speaker 2: go focus on other things. We don't do that here.
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Speaker 2: We certainly do everything we can on the front end,
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Speaker 2: but we go back and we go and study. We
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Speaker 2: look at registrations, we look at votes, and we prosecute
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Speaker 2: people on the back end. To save a message, we
18:00
Speaker 2: had those ballot amendments and people had to get you know,
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Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand signatures to get on the ballot, and
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Speaker 2: we see where they were cheating, copying phone books, just
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Speaker 2: forging documents. We go, we prosecute them, We put people
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Speaker 2: in jail. But I hope other states, especially our Republican
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Speaker 2: brothers and sisters, will do as much on the front
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Speaker 2: end as possible where you see sketchy activity, bring lawsuits
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Speaker 2: before the votes are cast, pass laws before election day,
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Speaker 2: create an election crimes unit on the front end that
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Speaker 2: can be scanning the state ready to mobilize where suspicious
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Speaker 2: activity is seen. When you're trying to fight, you know,
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Speaker 2: in the wake of an election and the media storm
18:38
Speaker 2: and results are already declared, gets a lot more difficult.
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Speaker 1: Does Florida Do other states then need to sue California
18:45
Speaker 1: in advance of November simply because they're taking too long
18:49
Speaker 1: to count votes.
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Speaker 2: If they're engaging in a behavior that gives us a
18:53
Speaker 2: cause of action, then I would sue in advance to seek,
18:56
Speaker 2: you know, an injunctive and declaratory relief on the front
18:59
Speaker 2: end that they need to make changes before you get
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Speaker 2: to election night.
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Speaker 1: Ah. Yes, the Attorney General for the Sunshine State with
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Speaker 1: us just a few more minutes this morning. What is
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Speaker 1: one I don't want to use the word story. One case,
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Speaker 1: one area of focus that is announced. It's out there,
19:35
Speaker 1: you're engaged in it, your office is doing it. That
19:39
Speaker 1: people just it's not on the radar of most people,
19:41
Speaker 1: but it ought to be sure.
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Speaker 2: Well. We were the first state in the country to
19:46
Speaker 2: sue open Ai chat gpt on behalf of the state
19:50
Speaker 2: of Florida, after seeing numerous cases over the last year
19:53
Speaker 2: where a child hurts themselves or commits suicide. And we
19:58
Speaker 2: go back and at what the doing on their computer
20:01
Speaker 2: in advance, and they're talking to chat GPT, and this
20:05
Speaker 2: is different than a Google search. They've signed the algorithms
20:08
Speaker 2: to mimic empathy, human emotion. It's designed to be addictive
20:13
Speaker 2: and draw people in. And we see conversations where chat
20:17
Speaker 2: GPT is not saying hey, don't do this or throwing
20:20
Speaker 2: up red flags. It's literally encouraging and walking the young
20:24
Speaker 2: person into it. Here in Tallahassee, it hits close to home.
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Speaker 2: The FSU shooting, we found out that there was an
20:30
Speaker 2: extensive conversation between that shooter and chat GPT, where the
20:34
Speaker 2: shooter was walked into that conversation and chat GPT advised
20:38
Speaker 2: on what gun to use, what bullets, how to turn
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Speaker 2: off the safety, where to go on campus at what
20:43
Speaker 2: time to encounter the largest number of people in order
20:45
Speaker 2: to get more media attention. It's mind blowing. My prosecutors
20:49
Speaker 2: came to me and said the other side of that
20:51
Speaker 2: chat conversation, if that was a human being, we would
20:54
Speaker 2: have them arrested and we would be prosecuting them as
20:57
Speaker 2: an accomplice to murder. Right now, So we're in a
20:59
Speaker 2: new a new territory, the self harm, the dangers to kids. Yeah,
21:03
Speaker 2: the national security risks. Look, AI's here, it's not going anywhere.
21:07
Speaker 2: We can't slow down. We can't let China get out
21:09
Speaker 2: ahead of this, or we're doomed forever. But we have
21:13
Speaker 2: to have protections in place. You know, whether or not
21:16
Speaker 2: the chatbots can talk to kids, that's a conversation that
21:20
Speaker 2: our legislature needs to have and at the least we
21:22
Speaker 2: need to alert law enforcement when these red flags go up.
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Speaker 1: It segues nicely to flock cameras. I'm sure you're aware
21:31
Speaker 1: of the abuses that are happening just north in Georgia.
21:34
Speaker 1: They're widespread. Are you comfortable where we are with the
21:38
Speaker 1: use of those cameras. Yes, they get bad guys, but
21:41
Speaker 1: they also are being abused in certain areas by basically,
21:48
Speaker 1: you know, a civil private company is rendering judge and
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Speaker 1: jury and verdict on people and finding them before they
21:56
Speaker 1: even have a due process.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, let me say this flock is just the
22:00
Speaker 2: name of one company. There are a lot of cameras.
22:02
Speaker 2: A lot of cameras have been used for a long.
22:03
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like Kleenex, that's kind of.
22:07
Speaker 2: Cover this look. I'm very publicly I beneposed to red
22:11
Speaker 2: light cameras, speeding cameras. I think it takes away the
22:14
Speaker 2: burden that law enforcement has to go out and do
22:16
Speaker 2: the job. And I think we need to have a
22:18
Speaker 2: very very healthy discussion about where these cameras are and
22:21
Speaker 2: how far they are used. I'm not going to say
22:24
Speaker 2: I'm totally against using cameras, because just last week we
22:28
Speaker 2: caught a guy, uh using a camera on a freeway
22:31
Speaker 2: that looks at license plates which have been there for many,
22:33
Speaker 2: many years. That's how we conduct toll roads executives, right.
22:37
Speaker 2: But we got a guy that brutally raped a young
22:41
Speaker 2: minor child girl, and we caught him on the run.
22:43
Speaker 2: We got him. He's now behind bars, hopefully for the
22:45
Speaker 2: rest of his life, unable to go hurt other people. Uh.
22:48
Speaker 2: If we can go get child rapists and murderers and
22:51
Speaker 2: catch them, I'm going to use every tool in the
22:52
Speaker 2: tool camera. But I want to fight for individual rights
22:55
Speaker 2: and freedoms and liberties as much as anybody, and where
22:58
Speaker 2: there's abuses or over bred we need to step in.
23:01
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to have that discussion this year with
23:03
Speaker 2: the legislative session I know a lot of the governor
23:06
Speaker 2: candidates are talking about it as well. Okay, to make
23:09
Speaker 2: sure that we are protecting people where it needs to
23:11
Speaker 2: you know, where it needs to.
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Speaker 1: Happen before we go. You've made some comments that I
23:17
Speaker 1: just personally had a great time with on the show
23:19
Speaker 1: as it relates to the NFL and the Rooney Rule,
23:22
Speaker 1: which is just nonsense, and Major League Baseball in some
23:26
Speaker 1: of their absurdities with Pride Night. Did you ever hear
23:30
Speaker 1: back from anybody with the commissioner's offices of either of
23:32
Speaker 1: those pro leagues.
23:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll quickly say MLB they've been great to work with.
23:37
Speaker 2: They they committed that they've already apologized to the players.
23:40
Speaker 2: They're not finding them. We do have a bit of
23:43
Speaker 2: an investigation that's ongoing, and just.
23:45
Speaker 1: To set that for our listeners, these are players that
23:48
Speaker 1: basically said, I'm not down for the Pride Night thing.
23:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a little scripture on my hat.
23:53
Speaker 2: Yeah. They you know, people write stuff on their hat
23:55
Speaker 2: all the times, remember a loved one or Venezuela whatever.
24:00
Speaker 2: Suddenly these guys write the Book of Genesis about life
24:02
Speaker 2: and God's promise and there and they're being you know,
24:05
Speaker 2: so fine. An MLB has been great to work with.
24:07
Speaker 2: They realized there was a problem. They want to fix it.
24:10
Speaker 2: NFL they're stonewalling us. They they say that they're not discriminating,
24:15
Speaker 2: even though before a team can hire a coach, it's
24:18
Speaker 2: got to make sure it's interviewed so many black coaches,
24:22
Speaker 2: which violates our civil rights.
24:23
Speaker 1: It's discrimination.
24:25
Speaker 2: I've heard from one of these coaching candidates that was black,
24:28
Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, I kind of got the word.
24:30
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to be me this time, so just
24:32
Speaker 2: use it as a rehearsal maybe for when it is
24:34
Speaker 2: my time. This is wrong. They also had quotas for
24:37
Speaker 2: offensive positions where you could get draft picks if people advanced.
24:41
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of those things they now say
24:43
Speaker 2: are no longer rules. Somehow they fell off the website,
24:45
Speaker 2: you know, once we started our investigation. But if they
24:48
Speaker 2: they stick strong to the Rooney rule, they're going to
24:50
Speaker 2: be hearing from us again.
24:52
Speaker 1: I think what I like the most is Florida's Attorney
24:54
Speaker 1: General reads the sports page.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, in corporate America, people are still doing
25:01
Speaker 2: the DEI. They're still having hiring quotas. You know, we've
25:05
Speaker 2: had issue with Starbucks and others, and a lot of
25:08
Speaker 2: people point to the NFL and say, well, they've got
25:10
Speaker 2: the Rooney Rule, they publish it, they brag about it.
25:12
Speaker 2: Why aren't you going after them? And I said, good idea,
25:15
Speaker 2: thank you, we will. There's nobody too big to rise
25:18
Speaker 2: above rule of law.
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Speaker 1: I love it. You're doing a great job. Well, it's
25:22
Speaker 1: an honor to have you in here today.
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Speaker 2: It's been a fun morning. Thanks for having me