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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, April 20 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jack Wars. Did you go Jack Jack Wars? Did Jack Wars?
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Speaker 1: Welcome into Jaguars Drive Time this Tuesday, brought to you
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Speaker 1: by the Jet Home Loans. We are only nine short
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Speaker 1: days away from the NFL Draft and we have a
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Speaker 1: sold out draft party right here at t I A
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Speaker 1: bank Field Night one of the Draft. Very much looking
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Speaker 1: forward to what is supposed to be a very big
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Speaker 1: night in franchise history, and we have a big show
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Speaker 1: for you today. We're gonna sell you on some draft
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Speaker 1: prospects and Good Morning Football's Nate Burlson joins the show
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Speaker 1: later on, So thank you for joining us, and Brian Hi,
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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I'm happy to be here. Yeah, John,
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Speaker 1: how are we? I'm great, plan how are you guys?
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Speaker 1: We are great and we are busy. So let's get
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Speaker 1: right into big things and no surprise here, it's all
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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence. Big thing one is Trevor Time. I've
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Speaker 1: hosted this on Twitter over the weekend, thanking Jaguars fans
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Speaker 1: for the wedding present and said that him and his
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Speaker 1: lovely wife Marissa are going to donate twenty thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: to charities in Jacksonville and says thanks, and we hope
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Speaker 1: to be part of the Jacksonville community soon. This is
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Speaker 1: really the first time that Trevor Lawrence has publicly stated yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm coming to Jacksonville, and yes I'm excited about it.
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Speaker 1: Big Thing too is a perfect fit. Speaking of Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence on ESPN joined Kirk Herb Street on his
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Speaker 1: Quarterback one series and said this about head coach Urban Meyer.
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Speaker 1: The main thing about Urban Meyer, He's one. Wherever he
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Speaker 1: is at, that is the most important thing. I know
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Speaker 1: he's gonna do a great job. Don't have any outs there.
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Speaker 1: If that is where I end up, I am fully
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Speaker 1: confidence that we are going to win. And finally, Big
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Speaker 1: Thing three is a star is born just like Lady
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Speaker 1: Gaga in the movie, very similar to the Sports illustrated
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Speaker 1: cover hair blowing in the wind, acts like he belongs Brian.
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Speaker 1: This is he handled it with class at Clemson, the
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Speaker 1: starlights and all the attention on him. This is a
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Speaker 1: whole new level. But if anyone is confidence that he
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Speaker 1: can handle it, it's him. Well, if anyone has confidence
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Speaker 1: that he can handle it, I would say I do too.
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Speaker 1: I mean his track record at Clemson says that he
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Speaker 1: can handle it. Thirty four and two was essentially the
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Speaker 1: biggest name in college football the last three years. I
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Speaker 1: mean since he beat Alabama in the championship game as
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Speaker 1: a as a true freshman. So he's done it. He
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Speaker 1: can do it. I love his demeanor. Uh. He comes
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Speaker 1: from a great family, it appears by all accounts, and
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Speaker 1: this is not too big for him. Here's what's big.
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Speaker 1: He is. He is the biggest name the Jaguars will
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Speaker 1: ever have had. He is the biggest star the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: will ever have had. And that is not hyperbole on
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Speaker 1: my part. This is the biggest night outside I think
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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars being awarded the franchise in November. This
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Speaker 1: is the next biggest night. Here's the franchise quarterback we've
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Speaker 1: been waiting for for twenty seven years, for a very
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Speaker 1: long time. And John, what's what's interesting. I'll go back
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Speaker 1: to a big thing too. And Kirk Kirpstreet was asking
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence about Urban Meyer standing so close to him
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Speaker 1: at his pro date, and he was kind of trying
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Speaker 1: to get him to say, like, yeah, I felt the pressure. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was a little nervous, and Trevor just goes. I
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Speaker 1: was just trying not to hit him in the head
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Speaker 1: with the football. That's all he got. His kid was
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Speaker 1: born to do this, I mean, and he wasn't born
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Speaker 1: to do this. He's been preparing to be here since
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Speaker 1: he was fourteen, when he was an umber one recruiting
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Speaker 1: the country. I I'm not sure if I've mentioned this
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Speaker 1: to you, guys. Think about this. He went into the
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Speaker 1: spotlight as a number one recruiting the country when he
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Speaker 1: was in high school, went into Clemson knowing he was
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Speaker 1: supposed to win the job, won the job, won the
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Speaker 1: national title. Since then, been the guy with the target,
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Speaker 1: where every Brian Sexton and John Osier in the world
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Speaker 1: has wanted to pick him apart, and much smarter football
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Speaker 1: people than us have wanted to pick him apart, tried
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Speaker 1: to find flaws. Three years later, he started as the
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Speaker 1: number one quarterback in the draft when he won that
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Speaker 1: game as a freshman, when the national title, He's still
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Speaker 1: the number one quarterback. Nobody's been able to pick him apart.
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Speaker 1: He was meant to be here, the number one pick
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Speaker 1: in the draft. You know, and I've said I've said
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Speaker 1: this before. I haven't said it in a while, so
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Speaker 1: I say it again. The night that he won the
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Speaker 1: National Championship as a freshman, I just thought, oh boy,
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Speaker 1: because we knew the Jaggars were gonna sign Nick Foles,
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Speaker 1: and I was counting out years and trying to figure out,
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Speaker 1: how do the Jaguars get their Peyton Manning, how do
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Speaker 1: they get there Andrew Luck? How do they get this
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? And because at that moment, and I think
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Speaker 1: everyone who's watching this and listening would agree he was
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Speaker 1: the star. It was clear this guy was made to
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Speaker 1: do this is John just mentioned and I thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: with Nick here, they're just they're gonna win just enough
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Speaker 1: games that they're not going to be in reach of that.
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Speaker 1: And of course that is and how it turned out.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is I did. I have no doubt.
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Jets because they have to
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Speaker 1: wonder do we take justin Fields, do we take Zach Wilson,
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Speaker 1: Which one is going to be better, which one fits,
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Speaker 1: which one is going to turn out? And the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: don't have to. They know where they're at, which is
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Speaker 1: why they have Urban Meyer and the staff that they've
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Speaker 1: got and the energy in the fan base. Now. It
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Speaker 1: just last year was a really good year to be
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Speaker 1: a bad team, and thankfully for this franchise, they now
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Speaker 1: have a way out of this cycle of cons didn't mediocrity,
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Speaker 1: which is what we've we've experienced for a long time
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Speaker 1: around here. Yes, it's finally the present with the bow
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Speaker 1: all nicely wrap here you go. It's interesting you mentioned
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Speaker 1: how people just pick this guy apart, and that's part
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Speaker 1: of just sports media. You try to find something wrong.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why that Sports Illustrated article was
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Speaker 1: so overblown and so overdramatized, because it was finally something
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Speaker 1: that maybe if you read it a certain way, it
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Speaker 1: could be seen as negative. We never thought that and
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Speaker 1: thought it was so overplayed, but that was kind of
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Speaker 1: the one thing where there was like that that's the
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Speaker 1: problem there. It is if if the knock on the
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Speaker 1: kid is that his life is to balance, I'll take it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's not about insults, no, and I we talked about
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Speaker 1: this on Jaguar's Reporters podcast yesterday. I am always drawn
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Speaker 1: to people in this game who can sit and have
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Speaker 1: a conversation about something other religious politics, what's going on
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Speaker 1: in the world today and that's who this kid is.
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Speaker 1: I we all know people John, you and I especially
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Speaker 1: have done this a long time. We know people who
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Speaker 1: have burned out, who were so committed overly, you know,
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Speaker 1: slepting their office kind of thing. Um. And it's refreshing
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Speaker 1: to me that this kid's gonna come in balanced. And
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Speaker 1: I guess just because of who he is, with his
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Speaker 1: faith and his family and all of those things. I
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Speaker 1: don't have any doubt that him saying I want to
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Speaker 1: be the best that ever was, but if something changed,
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Speaker 1: I'd be okay. Yeah, I had no problem with that.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a will, that it was well
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Speaker 1: spoken by him, very much so, very refreshing, kind of
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Speaker 1: unique that perspective. I just I always appreciate those people
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Speaker 1: that can that can tell you who they are and
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Speaker 1: and not not be scared to tell you who they are,
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Speaker 1: and he did. And I think Jaguar's fans should embrace
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Speaker 1: that because here's a guy in He's Peyton Manning on
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Speaker 1: the field, it appears, and Tim Tebow off the field.
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Speaker 1: And that combination fits Jackson Bill like a glove. That
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Speaker 1: is a very nice combo. All right. Speaking of the
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Speaker 1: Only nine short days away from the NFL Draft, and
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Speaker 1: one looking at every little way we can look at
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Speaker 1: this NFL Draft, and now we're gonna pick one prospect
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Speaker 1: and sell you on him. Why the Jaguars should draft
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Speaker 1: the use three guys. Brian and are similar where we
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Speaker 1: both picked a linebacker or going different. So Brian, you're up.
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Speaker 1: I'm all about value and with Joe Colin presenting a
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Speaker 1: three four base defense, linebackers are they become a premium right. Um.
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Speaker 1: It changes our mindset in Jacksonville some because we've always
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Speaker 1: talked about pass rushing defensive ends, but now it's about linebackers.
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Speaker 1: And there's a great value with this kid who was
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Speaker 1: an all state quarterback in Hominy, Oklahoma, and an all
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Speaker 1: state defensive end. I mean this guy, he was overlooked
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Speaker 1: because he played at a very small school. Northwest of Tulsa,
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Speaker 1: and the only reason he got an offer from Tulsa
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Speaker 1: was because he went to their camp over the summer.
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Speaker 1: But he fits the profile of a three four linebacker
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Speaker 1: like Levon Kirkland for those folks who remember the Steelers
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Speaker 1: great All Pro inside linebacker. He's taller. Levan was six two.
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Speaker 1: He's six five. Levan was heavier at two eighty, but
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Speaker 1: this kid plays at too sixty. He can play inside
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Speaker 1: on first and second down and slide outside on third down.
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Speaker 1: He's got the sort of positional flexibility with the size
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Speaker 1: that can take on a pulling guard. Now that isn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily what he did best at Tulsa, though he did
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Speaker 1: do it. The upside of this kid is his flexibility
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Speaker 1: and his versatility. He's a great value. You don't find
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Speaker 1: many six ft five two and sixty pound linebackers coming
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Speaker 1: out of college football anymore. Those guys generally put their
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Speaker 1: hand on the ground and become a pass rushing defensive end.
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Speaker 1: But Collins a Tulsa was all over the field. He
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Speaker 1: is a tremendous football player. I'm worried that he'll be
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Speaker 1: gone before because they just don't make them like this anymore.
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Speaker 1: And when you're making the move to that three four
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Speaker 1: scheme again, hybrid and all of that. This kid can
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Speaker 1: play inside, he can play outside. He's a hybrid player.
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Speaker 1: He's also a four point oh student from high school
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Speaker 1: into college and graduating with his degree in exercise physiology
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Speaker 1: in May. So he's not just a great football player,
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Speaker 1: he's a great student. And that's what you want. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you want high character, high performance players on and off
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Speaker 1: the field. This guy fits it. I can't recall the
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Speaker 1: last six ft five sixty pound linebacker john that came
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Speaker 1: out of college football and played linebacker. This guy's as
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Speaker 1: big as Tony Brackens was when he was rushing the passer.
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Speaker 1: So talent, versatility, intellect, high character. I say Zavin Collins
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Speaker 1: is the best value of sold sign me. It wouldn't
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Speaker 1: surprise me to see linebacker go there. Um, I I
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Speaker 1: think that's a fairly low possibility positionally, but uh, that's
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Speaker 1: probably because I have a preconceived notion that I think
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Speaker 1: they'll go explosiveness there. But but you know, the ready
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Speaker 1: for mine or discussing, I'm just gonna say this one
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Speaker 1: last thing. You can find receivers all over the draft.
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Speaker 1: I mean it remind people that Antonio Brown was a
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick. Okay, by the way, in the same
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Speaker 1: year that the Steelers drafted Emmanuel Sanders in the third round.
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Speaker 1: I would hate to take a five ft seven or
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Speaker 1: five ft eight wide receiver at um when I could
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Speaker 1: have six to sixty that I can't find every year. Again,
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Speaker 1: just the last little closing attempt there, you can find speed.
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Speaker 1: And this is a deep draft for wide receiver. You're
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Speaker 1: not going to find linebackers who can have this kind
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Speaker 1: of an impact beyond all right, speaking of wide receivers,
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Speaker 1: jump let us know. Yeah, and um, I'll preface all
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Speaker 1: this by saying Brian's exactly right. And I think the
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Speaker 1: the interesting thing in this draft for a lot of teams,
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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars included, is going to be how they
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Speaker 1: feel about exactly what Brian just said. Do you look
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Speaker 1: at offensive tackle early in this draft or do you
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Speaker 1: take a wide receiver? Do you look at defense early
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Speaker 1: in this raff you take a wide receiver? And I
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Speaker 1: think there is a school of thought that buys into
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Speaker 1: what Brian saying. Wide receivers have been good in the
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft draft, They're gonna be good in the future.
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Speaker 1: What value do you place on those guys? Uh, you
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Speaker 1: wonder if you're gonna start seeing exactly what Brian said, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we can get a wide receiver anytime. Let's get the
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Speaker 1: other positions. Trent Balky is all about value. Wouldn't surprise
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Speaker 1: me if he if he went that way. However, I'm
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Speaker 1: not taking to Darius Tony at five. I think he
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Speaker 1: could be value if he slides to thirty three, maybe
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Speaker 1: even forty. One of those fast receivers. Everybody's talking about
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Speaker 1: the kid from Purdue More, the kid from Old Miss Moore,
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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore and Rondel Moore. Somebody's gonna be there at
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Speaker 1: forty five, I think, or thirty three. You wonder if
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars go that route. Here for the sake of
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Speaker 1: this argument, that Darius Tony feels like a guy who
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Speaker 1: could slide to thirty three has the element. They talked
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Speaker 1: a lot, Balky and Meyer about wanting speed and wanting explosiveness.
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Speaker 1: They did it a little bit in free agency. I've
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Speaker 1: got to believe it's going to happen during the draft.
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Speaker 1: There's something about Rondale Moore, the five seven that seems
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Speaker 1: a little too small for me. Maybe it's just me.
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Speaker 1: So I'll go with Gadarius Tony at number thirty three
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Speaker 1: from Florida to give that give them that explosive explosiveness
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Speaker 1: that they need and want. He's definitely explosive, a lot
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Speaker 1: of similarities to what they said Percy Harvin back at Florida.
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Speaker 1: Sign me up for that. Well done, John, I'm sold
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Speaker 1: as well. All right, come on, Schlynn, you've practiced this
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Speaker 1: name all morning. Jeremiah oh Woo Sukamala nailed it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the linebacker out of Notre Dame, and here's why the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars should draft him at five. Brian spoke about position flexibility,
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Speaker 1: and this guy offers that and a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a different way. Defensive coordinators call him the rover position
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Speaker 1: hybrid between a linebacker and a safety. Can take any
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Speaker 1: assignments covering a slot receiver man the man no problem,
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Speaker 1: shooting the gap to break up a running play. Got it?
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Speaker 1: Sign me up. This guy has so much versatility. I
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Speaker 1: will be calling him j Okay from now on. That
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Speaker 1: is his nickname. I will never say that full name again.
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Speaker 1: It is j Okay from now on. It's not as
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Speaker 1: hard as it looks. It really is it's really really
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Speaker 1: difficult and intimidating. I love this kid too. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he'll be there. I mean, because he can play linebacker,
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Speaker 1: because he can also be projected as a strong safety.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy again with a sort
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Speaker 1: of versatility and performance and results that you're looking for.
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Speaker 1: I think he could do a lot of different things,
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Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be gone by the time
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Speaker 1: they get to we'll see Saving Hollins and that guy
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Speaker 1: at or maybe Kadarius Tony at thirty three. All good picks,
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Speaker 1: and uh I left there so excited about what Coach
20:40
Speaker 1: Meyer has going and what he's building and his vision
20:43
Speaker 1: and the culture that he's going to bring UM. You know,
20:47
Speaker 1: even though it was nearly twenty years ago that that
20:51
Speaker 1: I've played for him in college. Um, he still has
20:54
Speaker 1: that fire and and that definitely did excite me. Alex
20:58
Speaker 1: Smith announcing his retirement yesterday and says that he did
21:02
Speaker 1: indeed come here to Jacksonville and think about joining this roster,
21:06
Speaker 1: but decided being with his family and announcing retirements would
21:11
Speaker 1: be best. And that brings us right to the start
21:13
Speaker 1: of around the league. And it's funny, John, we were
21:16
Speaker 1: just talking about this yesterday on the Jaguars Reporter podcasts
21:19
Speaker 1: that you can find on Jaguars dot com, and we said,
21:22
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in a couple of years he can
21:24
Speaker 1: come back, and Alex Smith just completely demoralized that idea
21:29
Speaker 1: and said, I'm going to retire instaid. But John, I'm
21:31
Speaker 1: curious because the Jaguars do not have technically a quarterback coach.
21:37
Speaker 1: They have a passing game coordinator, they have an offensive coordinator,
21:40
Speaker 1: so this seems like a shoe and this could be
21:43
Speaker 1: a great fit. Alex Smith has coaching abilities. It seems
21:47
Speaker 1: like through the roof no Alex Smith, So I can't
21:54
Speaker 1: predict what he wants to do that or not. I
21:57
Speaker 1: do know this though, Flying Brian, he was a number
22:01
Speaker 1: one draft pick. He has made a lot of money
22:04
Speaker 1: in his life. UM, coaching is a grind. A lot
22:10
Speaker 1: of guys who have made this kind of money, I
22:13
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. The hours are insane. If
22:17
Speaker 1: he chooses and wants to do this, I don't see
22:21
Speaker 1: what would stand in the way of or admired go
22:23
Speaker 1: in this direction. It seems to be a perfect fit. Uh.
22:26
Speaker 1: Usually if you don't sort of half the coach for
22:29
Speaker 1: that lifestyle, you sometimes go in the opposite direction. So
22:32
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens on that is. Dude, Smith, I
22:35
Speaker 1: know that if I had that sort of money, I
22:37
Speaker 1: don't know that I would want to do that schedule.
22:39
Speaker 1: Brian No, I totally agree. I mean, it really is
22:41
Speaker 1: a grind. And when you've got a family like he
22:44
Speaker 1: has and you've overcome, you know that there were moments
22:47
Speaker 1: in his in his ordeal where they wondered what the
22:51
Speaker 1: quality of his life would be UM, and and I
22:55
Speaker 1: think I just go celebrate and enjoy life. I mean,
22:56
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, he's made well over a hundred
22:58
Speaker 1: million dollars UM as a quarterback. Nothing left to prove UM.
23:06
Speaker 1: I mean, the competitive bug gets in these guys and
23:08
Speaker 1: they they find themselves away from the game, but I
23:11
Speaker 1: would think he may have come to terms with that
23:13
Speaker 1: during his rehabilitation, and the smile on his face says
23:18
Speaker 1: it all to me. I got the money and I'm
23:19
Speaker 1: going to go and enjoy my life with my beautiful
23:21
Speaker 1: wife and family. Yeah, and I'm just so okay. It
23:23
Speaker 1: was funny. I was watching outside the lines that full
23:25
Speaker 1: interview and they were asking when did you decide you
23:28
Speaker 1: were going to retire? And he said, I was on
23:30
Speaker 1: the side of the mountain with my son snowboarding, and
23:32
Speaker 1: he said, you know what, I'd like to snowboard some more.
23:35
Speaker 1: I'm gonna retire. What a way to make that decision
23:39
Speaker 1: hard to go against that? Yeah, all right. Let's so
23:41
Speaker 1: let's talk about another quarterback on the complete opposite side
23:44
Speaker 1: of the spectrum, and that is Trey Lance. All eyes
23:48
Speaker 1: were on him yesterday he as he had his second
23:52
Speaker 1: pro day, and this is really a toss up. He
23:55
Speaker 1: is incredibly athletic and as all this upside Brian, but
23:59
Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot of games in a very small school.
24:03
Speaker 1: So you look at San Francisco at number three, could
24:06
Speaker 1: they take them? Could they go the safer route with
24:08
Speaker 1: that Alabama quarterback? But this guy seems incredibly athletic. Well
24:13
Speaker 1: there's I mean, if you watch him, you see why
24:16
Speaker 1: people are drawn to him. I mean, he's he looks
24:18
Speaker 1: a lot like justin fields and his ability to move
24:21
Speaker 1: and deliver the ball. He makes all the throws. You
24:25
Speaker 1: do worry a little bit about, you know, the competition,
24:27
Speaker 1: the fact that he only played one game last year,
24:29
Speaker 1: that he was only a one year starter. But then
24:31
Speaker 1: you look at a guy who didn't throw an interception,
24:33
Speaker 1: you know, in any of those seventeen starts. So he
24:34
Speaker 1: makes good decisions with the ball. Um no matter where
24:37
Speaker 1: he goes, whether he goes three to San Francisco or
24:40
Speaker 1: four to um Atlanta as people are starting to project,
24:44
Speaker 1: or if someone comes up to get him, because I
24:46
Speaker 1: think he's going in the top ten, I think you're
24:47
Speaker 1: gonna have to come up to get him. I think
24:48
Speaker 1: you could see five quarterbacks go in the top twelve
24:50
Speaker 1: picks because those those those teams that are sitting there
24:53
Speaker 1: are going to start auctioning them off to quarterback needy teams. Um,
24:57
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a chance to sit whether it's New
24:58
Speaker 1: England behind Cam Newton fe year or in Atlanta behind
25:03
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan for a year or two or more, so
25:06
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the chance to grow with him. But
25:08
Speaker 1: you don't find guys like this. I mean, they just
25:10
Speaker 1: they don't show up in the third round. I mean,
25:13
Speaker 1: if you want a quarterback with his measurables, then you
25:16
Speaker 1: gotta go take him, gotta go up and get him.
25:18
Speaker 1: And that's what's really interesting John about number four with
25:20
Speaker 1: the Falcons. It seems like quarterback one to three and
25:24
Speaker 1: Falcons at four. Really that first time where you have
25:27
Speaker 1: to make a tricky decision. You could go quarterback or
25:29
Speaker 1: you could maybe go Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I'd be surprising
25:34
Speaker 1: if the Falcons don't go quarterback, especially if, as you
25:38
Speaker 1: guys are talking about, Lawrence is gonna go one, Wilson's
25:41
Speaker 1: gonna go to you know, if if if the North
25:45
Speaker 1: Dakoast State kid goes number three, I can't imagine you
25:49
Speaker 1: don't take Justin Fields if you're the Falcons, just because
25:53
Speaker 1: this is you know, I get that for some reason,
25:57
Speaker 1: Fields has fallen down the board. I'd be surprised actively
26:01
Speaker 1: he doesn't go to San Francisco number three, because he's
26:04
Speaker 1: done it. He has the pedigree. It feels like a
26:07
Speaker 1: smoke screen a little bit with the other things. So
26:09
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons will take a quarterback. I think
26:12
Speaker 1: it will depend on who's there. Uh. To me, Mac Jones,
26:17
Speaker 1: I like the resume. I like we did in college,
26:20
Speaker 1: but nobody was really talking about mac Jones as a
26:25
Speaker 1: first round pick in November, and all of a sudden
26:28
Speaker 1: he is. That's always a little bit of a of
26:30
Speaker 1: a red flag to me. When they can push up
26:31
Speaker 1: that quick, that's my as my quarterback rundown for the day, Sland.
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26:37
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Speaker 1: That was Good Morning Football's Nate Burlson talking just yesterday
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Speaker 1: is joining us right now. Nate, thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for joining us. No problem for sate. You guys having
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Speaker 1: me on absolutely. So we just heard you talk about
29:33
Speaker 1: how if the Jaguars get this right in the draft,
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Speaker 1: they could fix this thing and turn it around in
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Speaker 1: one year. So what is nailing the draft in your eyes?
29:43
Speaker 1: What do they have to do addressing the team needs?
29:47
Speaker 1: Um And what's great is with the talent that you
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Speaker 1: already have on the roster. Some of the things that
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jackson were able to do in free agency,
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Speaker 1: and you can go in a variety of ways. Cornerback
29:56
Speaker 1: safety helped that defense out, so you can really give
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30:04
Speaker 1: up against that jacks d Of course you can go
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Speaker 1: off as a lineman. You know, one of the struggles
30:08
Speaker 1: that rookie's face, Um, you know consistently a year and
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Speaker 1: a year out as protection. Um. So if you give
30:15
Speaker 1: that rookie more time in the pocket, then they'll be
30:17
Speaker 1: able to hit their weapons. And we saw that a
30:19
Speaker 1: lot with the Joe Burrow last year. As much as
30:22
Speaker 1: we wanted to compliment him, we saw him take a
30:24
Speaker 1: ton of shots in Cincinnati. So, um, when you look
30:27
Speaker 1: at the picks that are available, we know what's gonna
30:30
Speaker 1: happen at number one. And then moving on with is
30:33
Speaker 1: it five picks in the top one hundred, Um, if
30:36
Speaker 1: you if you hit that draft and you hit those
30:38
Speaker 1: knees that you have. Like I said, this turnaround is
30:40
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot faster than people think. Now, you've
30:43
Speaker 1: been in several locker rooms and had a long NFL career,
30:45
Speaker 1: so you can speak to this like few people can.
30:49
Speaker 1: You've got a brand new coach and a new staff,
30:51
Speaker 1: You've got a new quarterback coming in, You've got a
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Speaker 1: team that was here, and you've got a free agent
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Speaker 1: class that's not yet to arrive, but getting started. How
31:00
Speaker 1: how tricky is getting everyone on the same page and
31:04
Speaker 1: getting this team built when we're still talking about virtual
31:08
Speaker 1: over the course of the next couple of months and
31:10
Speaker 1: maybe not really full tilt until training camp. How big
31:13
Speaker 1: is the lift for urban Meyer to get this team
31:16
Speaker 1: on the same page. It's going to be difficult at first.
31:19
Speaker 1: I mean, this is unique, this type of off season
31:22
Speaker 1: um coming off the hills of so we haven't experienced
31:26
Speaker 1: anything like this. So, Uh, there's teams trying to figure
31:30
Speaker 1: out if they're going to be completely virtual. There's teams
31:33
Speaker 1: right now that are saying we don't want to show
31:35
Speaker 1: up if the protocols are in place, so so having
31:39
Speaker 1: those practices and being able to build that camaraderie and
31:42
Speaker 1: team chemistry that you usually would in a traditional off season,
31:45
Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen this year. And not
31:47
Speaker 1: to mention, you have a new head coach with the
31:50
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback coming in that's supposed to be the savior.
31:53
Speaker 1: But I remember having Urban on the show. He said, look, Neate,
31:57
Speaker 1: I didn't, um, you know, keep the same coaching style
32:02
Speaker 1: my entire career. I have adjusted the way that I've
32:05
Speaker 1: coached um throughout my career and more recently being able
32:09
Speaker 1: to understand going into the NFL, he's already started to
32:14
Speaker 1: create ways to communicate with his players because my my curiosity, UM,
32:20
Speaker 1: it really leaned on UM my experiences that I've had
32:24
Speaker 1: where you have new root, new new head coaches that
32:26
Speaker 1: come in the league and they're trying to win the
32:28
Speaker 1: locker room, and and it's hard to convince men, not
32:31
Speaker 1: just regular men, I'm talking about men with millions who
32:34
Speaker 1: have their own problems, own issues and dealing with real life.
32:37
Speaker 1: Convinced those guys that everything you're selling they're supposed to
32:41
Speaker 1: be buying. So how do you get an organization bought
32:43
Speaker 1: in in the off season. It is as unique as this. Um,
32:47
Speaker 1: what I do know when I was talking to Urban
32:49
Speaker 1: is that he had this competence about He's like, he's like,
32:52
Speaker 1: you know what, CREC. You can look. You can look
32:54
Speaker 1: at college players as young boys, but truly, these guys
32:58
Speaker 1: are young men in these big schools and programs that
33:02
Speaker 1: he's part of. Let's just keep it realty, these are
33:05
Speaker 1: like professional programs in itself. So, UM, he's gonna it's
33:09
Speaker 1: gonna be a case by case basis. You can't come
33:12
Speaker 1: in and just blanket your whole squad and talk to
33:14
Speaker 1: him all the same way. You know, you're gonna talk
33:17
Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrence a little bit differently than you talk
33:20
Speaker 1: to Marvin Jones. And if you can do that and
33:23
Speaker 1: don't be exhausted while you're doing that, eventually you'll find
33:26
Speaker 1: the right way to communicate to the whole team. For sure.
33:29
Speaker 1: You just brought up Marvin Jones and you both played
33:32
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions at one point. And I don't
33:35
Speaker 1: throw this around a lot, but when Marvin Jones walked
33:37
Speaker 1: in this building, it was almost Calais Campbell esque, like
33:41
Speaker 1: he owned the room. And now he has d J
33:44
Speaker 1: Chark and Laviska Chanel in that wide receiver room. How
33:47
Speaker 1: big is that for those young guys to have someone
33:50
Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones to look up to. Well, it's big
33:54
Speaker 1: from an XS and O standpoint, just because you have
33:56
Speaker 1: a guy that can come in right away and show
33:59
Speaker 1: you how to be a system wide receiver. Now. DJ
34:01
Speaker 1: Tark is a beast, I mean, I'll do it. Is
34:03
Speaker 1: a number one white out on any team. Um, So
34:05
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's not act like he's just gonna
34:08
Speaker 1: come in and play second fiddle. But what else you
34:11
Speaker 1: get with Marvin Jones? You get the the the other
34:15
Speaker 1: side of what being a professional athlete is. And you
34:18
Speaker 1: know what that's. That's understanding the ins and out being
34:22
Speaker 1: a pro, how to take care of your body, how
34:24
Speaker 1: to take care of your how to balance and multitask,
34:28
Speaker 1: show up and being absolute professional while being a grown
34:31
Speaker 1: man and hand on your business office field. He's seen
34:33
Speaker 1: the highs and the lows. He's been, you know, considered
34:37
Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers, but also been on
34:39
Speaker 1: the team that wasn't winning. So um, having a guy
34:42
Speaker 1: in the locker room that can speak to you when
34:44
Speaker 1: the tough times come. That goes a long way. Just
34:48
Speaker 1: a thought on how they can maximize a rookie quarterback
34:53
Speaker 1: Nate in in the first year, and in your thoughts
34:56
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence in particular. We've seen young quarterbacks come
34:59
Speaker 1: in recent years and have great success. I mean going
35:01
Speaker 1: back to Russell Wilson and what he was able to
35:04
Speaker 1: do in Seattle. Um, your thoughts on Lawrence and how
35:07
Speaker 1: the Jaguars can put him in a in a position
35:10
Speaker 1: to succeed early on. Yeah, even Carla Murray, he's shown
35:14
Speaker 1: some glimpses um and Lamar Jackson. When he first stepped
35:18
Speaker 1: on the field, it was fantastic. Um Baker Mayfield. I
35:21
Speaker 1: mean he didn't start to a few games into the
35:23
Speaker 1: season after they replaced Tyrod Taylor, he still broke the
35:27
Speaker 1: rookie record with twenty seven touchdowns in that season. So, uh,
35:30
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the recent success of young
35:34
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that should give everybody in Jacksonville hope that this
35:38
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be some rough rookie year. This doesn't
35:41
Speaker 1: have to be some some some you know campaign that
35:45
Speaker 1: has filled with all of these moments where you're wincing
35:48
Speaker 1: and hoping that Trevor Lawrence is going to pick himself
35:50
Speaker 1: about the ground because he's getting pumbled up there. That's
35:53
Speaker 1: not the case. It doesn't have to be the case.
35:55
Speaker 1: That's why this draft is important. That's why chemistry is important.
35:58
Speaker 1: And also play calling. You know, you don't want them
36:00
Speaker 1: to just drive back and have to heave it downfield
36:03
Speaker 1: all of the time. If you're designing play to get
36:05
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands consistently in each game,
36:09
Speaker 1: he can catch a rhythm while in the game and
36:11
Speaker 1: then start to unleash it a little bit. Um. You know,
36:14
Speaker 1: I do have faith in the fact that this offense
36:17
Speaker 1: is not just going to be built around the arm
36:19
Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. It's going to be built around the
36:21
Speaker 1: skill players that's around Trevor Lawrence. Exciting times to come
36:25
Speaker 1: for the offense in general. Nate Burrelson, thank you so
36:29
Speaker 1: much for joining us and taking the time. No problem,
36:32
Speaker 1: you guys, have a good day. Thank you, good bye.
36:34
Speaker 1: All right, you can catch Nate burleson on Good Morning
36:36
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36:39
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36:46
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36:51
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36:53
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