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A Complete Review of Gilded Newport Mysteries: Murder at the Breakers · Hallmark Mysteries & More

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Eric: Okay, andrea, today we are talking about gilded Newport Mysteries Murder at the Breakers.
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Eric: Was this a movie that makes you want to stay in 1895 with Emma, or are you just waiting to get back to the future?
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Andrea: We will have to wait and see, yeah.
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Eric: Okay, this is Eric.
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Andrea: This is Andrea.
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Eric: This is Homeark Mysteries and more.
0:37
Eric: Okay, andrea, it is time.
0:41
Eric: We've talked about this movie for a long time we finally get to recap, because we've seen it.
0:47
Eric: What is it about?
0:50
Eric: Yeah, why don't you read the description for us?
0:54
Andrea: Well, I just pulled it up off of the app.
0:57
Andrea: It's a murder interrupts.
1:00
Andrea: In 1895, a banner built ball.
1:02
Andrea: A society columnist is attending.
1:05
Andrea: That's a very short, brief, one sentence on the app.
1:09
Eric: Wait, that's literally, was it?
1:10
Eric: That was it Wow, wow.
1:14
Andrea: So you leave very intrigued about what this is about.
1:19
Eric: Yeah, geez, I think someone was late for lunch and they just had to get something posted on it.
1:26
Eric: All right, there you go, throwed out a sentence, yeah time to get my pastrami.
1:31
Eric: Okay, all right, we've chatted a little bit.
1:36
Eric: You were sending me DMs.
1:38
Eric: Well, we're not DMs.
1:39
Eric: I guess there were text messages while you were watching it feverishly and I was out of town for work, so I was not watching it live.
1:47
Eric: I have a feeling we're going in different directions.
1:49
Eric: Where's your overall plot and enjoyment on that scale one to five?
1:56
Andrea: Okay, so I landed at a two.
2:00
Eric: I'm actually shocked.
2:01
Eric: I thought you were going to be lower.
2:03
Andrea: Really.
2:04
Eric: Yes.
2:05
Andrea: Oh no, I mean okay.
2:06
Andrea: So I found it to be a bit slow in places, especially compared to true justice.
2:13
Andrea: I feel like that one really caught strides that second hour, whereas this one I didn't think it ever really caught its legs.
2:19
Andrea: I thought the dramatic music that was playing throughout people commented on that I saw in different threads and I think they did that to amp up what's going on, because I really noticed it too.
2:33
Andrea: After I started reading that I'm like, oh yeah, there is just this background of dramatic music and I think they did it to help emote some of the actions.
2:43
Andrea: I think from some of the leads I feel like the acting might have been a bit stale in some places, like the choices that the actors made, three in particular.
2:54
Andrea: I don't know if they were choices I would have made.
2:57
Andrea: I think that some of the no emotions that was being seen I mean, if you've watched again I love period pieces like Bridgerton, gilded Age on HBO Max if they would have watched them, they can see you can be serious but also have more going on, and so I think for me that really lost me.
3:18
Andrea: But I will say I enjoyed, because I watched it again the next morning without the commercials.
3:24
Andrea: I enjoyed it better the second time and it really what stuck to me was I probably would do a recast a little bit for some of the characters and then I would be a little bit more in because I enjoyed going back in time.
3:40
Andrea: I enjoyed the period piece.
3:42
Andrea: I think the bones are here and again, just a few people didn't quite connect for me and so I had a tough time with that.
3:53
Andrea: And I will also say, when I posted about this, not a ton of people commented that they didn't like it, but I got a ton of DMs saying they completely agree and I mean, I get it.
4:05
Andrea: We don't like to be, I don't like to be down on the movies or, you know, I really don't like to insult certain people.
4:11
Andrea: That's why I'm not going to say which ones really stuck out to me.
4:14
Andrea: But in the DMs, you know, I did share with people and they all, we all agreed it was kind of the same same characters that we all had a tough time with and that that really lost it for I would say a good chunk of the audience who didn't enjoy that.
4:29
Andrea: That was the main reason why it wasn't the story itself, it wasn't the mystery, it wasn't going back in time.
4:34
Andrea: It was some of the acting choices that just were a bit stale for some of us.
4:38
Andrea: So I'm curious to know what you thought, because you haven't told me yet.
4:44
Eric: So I know.
4:45
Andrea: I know what are you thinking.
4:46
Eric: All right, I gave it a three.
4:47
Eric: I kind of we talked about that garage sale search and seize last week.
4:51
Eric: I put it sort of on par with that.
4:54
Eric: I didn't love it, didn't hate it, it was okay.
4:59
Eric: It held my attention.
5:01
Eric: I do agree with you, it did not have a ton of pace to it.
5:05
Eric: I think that could have been done.
5:07
Eric: I think for me and you had expressed like the acting in there, so I was going into a prepared for me.
5:16
Eric: It just had this kind of like very YA feel to it and I think that they were acting like modern 21 year olds.
5:27
Eric: Right, they weren't going into that.
5:30
Eric: You know, you throw a Bridgerton.
5:31
Eric: Obviously, that's very different.
5:34
Eric: But the other thing I will say is it's a Hallmark movie and so you like, we compare it to a Downton Abbey, we compare it to a Bridgerton or a Gilded Age.
5:47
Eric: These movies with these huge budgets, plenty of time to prep and do everything.
5:52
Eric: When we talked to Jerelyn, which I was supposed to edit and have actually airing today, tuesday, but because I was out of town working, I did not get a chance to edit it.
6:03
Eric: But one of the things she shared is that with the strike, that the percentage of budget they have left over for the things like the set, the costumes, all those other things is contracted.
6:18
Eric: Plus they really and we talked to enough actors no, there's not a lot of time before they cast and start shooting.
6:28
Eric: So these actors sort of get a script and here you go, you're going to be in 1895, I run with it.
6:35
Eric: So I don't think they, you know, come compare it to a Bridgerton who probably has months to practice and do everything right.
6:43
Eric: So I think I maybe went into it for giving a lot of that.
6:50
Eric: I will say we can talk about the actors and they're the easier one.
6:54
Eric: I would kind of Terry Ingram, who's one of the Hallmark big directors right, he did the wedding veils and gazillion other ones.
7:01
Eric: I kind of would put it on him because I would say he, because they all talked, and I think this is what you're getting at they seem to be just very I'm going to talk very period, which means no emotion and very short and whatever.
7:16
Eric: And I don't think they had to do that and I think that had a probably and I don't know, I'm just probably saying I think it was maybe more from the director's lead of how to do it, since it was a fairly consistent theme, with the exception of nanny.
7:31
Eric: Nanny was all of that right, but so that's so, there's that.
7:37
Eric: And then, like I said, I think if you did go to it and we're had this gilded age Bridgerton thing in the back of your mind thing, it was going to compete with that.
7:45
Eric: I completely agree that you will be disappointed, because it just can't compete.
7:50
Eric: Now I am curious, though one of your things that we had talked about was the costuming, and you're you know, we're just talking about the budgeting you're a little concerned that the costuming you know, kind of the exact same conversation wasn't going to sort of be reflective, do you?
8:06
Eric: I thought they actually did a pretty decent job.
8:11
Andrea: Yeah, I did too.
8:11
Andrea: I mean, there was only one I you know, because I was kind of going back and forth with, you know, one of the gals and I we always do as we're watching live and you know we both comment, I think, on the blue dress was, it was hideous and that was supposed to be the nice, you know, $75 dress, and so I'm like, oh, they couldn't have made a different choice there.
8:28
Andrea: But other than that, that was only that was the only costume that stuck out to me.
8:33
Andrea: But again, it could have been, because some of some of the acting was rough and I completely agree.
8:39
Andrea: And it's so funny that you had said brought up the director.
8:42
Andrea: I was just chatting with one of my clients before and just telling her, you know, I'm like how do I express this?
8:48
Andrea: Because I get, I don't like to be mean, I don't want to like harp on, you know, certain people, and she said, well, often, you know, she comes from a theater background, she's like I would say it's going to be the director.
8:57
Andrea: So it's really funny that you had brought up brought up the director, because that's exactly what she said.
9:02
Andrea: She's like if people are making those choices, sometimes it's the actor making the choice, but if it's kind of universal, it could be a directing thing, and so I agree with you there.
9:11
Andrea: It might have been that and I completely understand like I think some of them are shot in 14 days, so it's it's a lot to do.
9:17
Andrea: And if I mean, these are young actors that were in it, and if they've never had that experience before, it's a lot to kind of bring in digest.
9:23
Andrea: And if they're not familiar with period pieces, that's, it's asked.
9:27
Andrea: It's asking a lot.
9:29
Eric: I agree.
9:29
Eric: The other thing and I don't know if this falls within the when we get into the mystery minute.
9:35
Eric: But one of the things that did bug me about the movie was, I thought, the ending, which a lot of the times is the case, whether it be a romcom or the mystery, where it kind of gets into a jumble, so things all of a sudden we have to wrap up.
9:52
Eric: And it just bugged me and I had to go back and watch it again, watch it three times, just figure out, did I miss something?
9:58
Eric: But nanny says, oh, rupert was murdered.
10:03
Eric: So Emma and Jesse run over there and they get over there and it says, if you know, adeline is just standing there like oh no, this just happened.
10:12
Eric: There's no other police coming.
10:13
Eric: Like how did nanny know?
10:15
Eric: And I understand she's networked with all the, all the service people, but it was just a weird thing.
10:21
Eric: That just didn't make sense Because they kind of stumbled upon the dead body.
10:26
Eric: But nanny already knew.
10:28
Eric: And this is 1895.
10:29
Eric: And we know communication is not like sending a text message kind of thing, right, so that was just kind of weird.
10:36
Eric: And then also the hiding place in the house where they had hid the Adeline had hid the railroad plans, like that was just kind of weird, because in the book I'm part of it, I'll say to and we'll get into this with the mystery.
10:51
Eric: Having read the book, it did hold true a lot to the book, so I really knew what was coming and so I can't objectively look at it and go, oh, these were good red herrings or these were not good red herrings, because I knew what was happening.
11:05
Eric: Right, and you know they're not exactly the same, but it's close enough.
11:09
Eric: But the hiding place in the book is this they have like this little playhouse in the back and it's this sort of buried underground thing so it is completely concealed that people would not stumble upon, as opposed to some box that appeared to be in the living room, kind of thing.
11:26
Eric: Right that, how is she hiding it there in the middle of some big ball?
11:30
Eric: So it was kind of a weird like the ending things were just sort of like okay, crap, we got to wrap up, so just make this all happen.
11:37
Eric: I'm not going to even attempt to be logical, so that just kind of was.
11:42
Eric: That to me was more my criticism of the movie than the acting.
11:48
Eric: Like I said, I actually I enjoyed, I thought Ali was.
11:52
Eric: I thought she was a pretty good heroine.
11:55
Eric: I thought I liked, I thought she expressed an independence and you know that's kind of the character way it was written.
12:01
Eric: I thought she she did a fine job, Jesse being her.
12:05
Eric: You know the, you know the detective.
12:07
Eric: I think they purposely had him being just supportive and I'm you know I can't help because I've been taken off the case, so he was just around just enough.
12:15
Eric: I didn't have a because I, oh no, I thought it was okay.
12:21
Andrea: Well, mystery minute.
12:22
Andrea: So how did we think the mystery landed?
12:24
Andrea: For myself, I really found myself not really caring about the mystery, all honesty.
12:31
Andrea: So I wasn't trying to solve it, I was just kind of trying to get into the movie, I think.
12:35
Andrea: And so the first time watching it, obviously the second time watching it, you know who did it.
12:40
Andrea: So the second time watching it I was kind of like, okay, well, what is Adelaide's motives here?
12:45
Andrea: And I still don't quite understand, like her explanation of murdering people.
12:49
Andrea: She just was a disgruntled housewife, it sounded like and that's her reason, so that I could think was a little confusing to me.
12:59
Andrea: But minus that, the rest, I was like it was okay, I could care less, I think, about actually solving, solving the mystery for this one.
13:06
Andrea: It's just, I mean and that's not like I didn't like it any less because of that I just felt like the mystery was kind of the backseat to this one.
13:12
Andrea: I feel like the period piece was the front seat.
13:15
Andrea: And you're trying, you know, you're trying to get to know the characters and I think I was trying to figure out the relationship between the two leads, between Jesse and I'm blanking on her name Emma, and I'm like are they were they dating?
13:30
Andrea: Did they say they dated?
13:34
Andrea: So sometimes they give us so much backstory, we're like too much, we don't care.
13:37
Andrea: But in this one I was like I need more.
13:39
Andrea: I need more about these characters to truly invest, because I spent probably the first hour I'm like, and then they kissed and held hands and I'm like wait, in that period, like in Bridgerton, like that's very much a no-man's if you're kissing someone out of wedlock, like wait, well.
13:54
Andrea: Well, bridgerton, they're making out tearing clothes off?
13:59
Andrea: Well, yes, but if you're caught now you have to marry that person, and so that's where I was just kind of like I was getting a little lost in some of those details, I think, and a little confused about where their relationship stood and if they, when he was like, hey, I got to ask you something and she knew marriage was coming down the pipeline, so that I would have liked that to be a little bit more fleshed out in the beginning so I could get into that relationship.
14:23
Eric: I'll go back to the legacy.
14:24
Eric: My mystery minute is kind of a little distorted because I read the book, the kiss, I believe.
14:33
Eric: So in the book her and Jesse don't have a relationship.
14:38
Eric: Her and Derek have the relationship, but in the book she like kisses Jesse, if I'm recalling correctly, like essentially over a dead body, like he's there, converts her and she looks at him and kisses.
14:55
Eric: So I think there is a lot of that sort of yes, okay, we're gonna be historically accurate somewhat, but at the same time we're gonna add a little bit of juiciness to it.
15:04
Eric: So I think that's probably the same thing with Jesse, whereas, like I say, in the book Jesse it seems like she.
15:15
Eric: Maybe there's something that will come in one of the later chapters to create a little bit, but it's definitely not in the book.
15:24
Eric: I also think, like the outline and it gets back to where I said it kind of rushed things or whatever it really in the book, but once again you had the luxury of the book explained it, whereas she was completely and it dealt with it more in depth that she was shunned by society so she couldn't do all the things that she wanted to do.
15:45
Eric: She came from a family that was wealthy, lost all their money and so she basically married this old guy to get it all back.
15:53
Eric: And it didn't work out like she wanted and he was abusive to her and didn't treat her well.
15:58
Eric: So she was trying to essentially get money and kill him.
16:05
Eric: So she was like I'll kill off my husband, I'll get all the money and I'll start my life anew and go get me an age-appropriate, rich husband again, or something like that.
16:18
Eric: So I don't think I agree with you.
16:19
Eric: I don't think if you didn't have the luxury of reading the book you would get it.
16:23
Eric: And that's kind of where I was at before, where it had some of the red herrings like Neely.
16:28
Eric: In there was a very prominent character and a very prominent red herring where half the book I was convinced it was gonna be Neely, and in the movie I think they kind of like oh, here's Neely, he's a suspect, but they didn't really other than the fact he had this other girlfriend that family didn't like, didn't touch on it at all.
16:50
Eric: So I think they made some choices what can we focus on, what can't we?
16:55
Eric: And as a result, I agree.
16:56
Eric: I think it made the mystery, the red herrings there are a lot of them.
17:01
Eric: I just don't think they were very strong.
17:05
Eric: So there, and then I agree with you I don't think they for the reason of the murder.
17:13
Eric: I don't think they did a great job of doing that.
17:16
Eric: So I'm with you.
17:18
Eric: I'm with you there.
17:20
Andrea: Well, romance roundup.
17:21
Andrea: Well, we kind of hinted at that.
17:22
Andrea: How did the romance feel for us?
17:24
Andrea: For me, I said not great.
17:27
Andrea: I think that the chemistry between Jesse and Emma, like they had trouble it could be a younger person like they didn't really look at each other in the eyes, they were kind of like talking side by side and like, and I think maybe it could have been cute, but it didn't really land that way.
17:42
Andrea: For me, the chemistry between Nathan Witt's character, derek, and Emma, like I felt, you know, I guess I felt some romantic tension, not a ton, like I see where they're trying to go with it, and like having that love triangle, because we love the love triangle, especially in those mystery movies for Hallmark.
18:05
Eric: Well, we have love quadrangle now, and-.
18:09
Andrea: Hannah Swanson.
18:11
Eric: Hannah Victor coming in.
18:13
Andrea: And so that's where you're like okay, do we?
18:15
Andrea: Am I invested in it?
18:17
Andrea: Again, I'm okay, like if, blushing out another movie and just kind of exploring this, could it be there?
18:25
Andrea: Yes, did I feel a ton of like blazing hot chemistry?
18:28
Andrea: Not really.
18:29
Andrea: What about you?
18:32
Eric: Okay, so one of the things if you think about mystery series in general, they usually aren't kissing until like the third one.
18:39
Andrea: That's true.
18:40
Eric: Whereas you got to kiss in the first one, it's more along like her and Derek, with looks tension.
18:46
Eric: So I was kind of surprised that they got that and then, like you said, they threw in the love triangle which creates a little interest there.
18:54
Eric: I'll go back to the book.
18:55
Eric: The book's interesting.
18:57
Eric: As I said, she kisses Derek, but then when she finds out who he is at the end because he says he kind of tells her he's like just the reporter and he's just doing this low level stuff and it turns out he's hired to by Rupert's sister because she thinks that Adeline is poisoning him and that's his sickness.
19:17
Eric: So he's actually investigating Rupert and all that.
19:19
Eric: But at the end when she finds out who she is, she's like kiss them.
19:23
Eric: She's like, oh yeah, you're totally hot.
19:25
Eric: But you know what, if I were to be with you, I would become that society wife.
19:32
Eric: I don't want that.
19:34
Eric: So Adios Derek, which at the end of the book I was like whoa.
19:39
Eric: She just like talk about Emma being independent, which is one of the things that we like about that character.
19:43
Eric: She just basically said yeah, I will not marry you because you are too wealthy and too connected, and everything which they obviously did not do in the movie because, like you said, we wanna have that triangle.
19:55
Eric: Now, speaking of the triangle, gross, ick, creep.
19:59
Eric: You know what one of my pet peeves is Nathan's 38 years old.
20:05
Eric: He's like 17 years older than her.
20:10
Eric: Could they not got some like hot 29?
20:14
Eric: Like I could deal with it there, because, yeah, even they're like whatever.
20:19
Eric: He's 17 years old, he's pushing 40.
20:23
Eric: She's just barely 20.
20:25
Eric: No, can't do it.
20:28
Eric: Creep, gross.
20:31
Eric: I will say, though I went and hopped on.
20:33
Eric: I know you were like looking at some of the like the Facebook and the live stream stuff, so I just went and hopped on IMDB and one of the things that there was a lot of which I in one way can understand but, at the same time, I don't agree with.
20:51
Eric: There's a lot of comments about basically race and then bringing in black characters and having a love interest by a biracial love interest, and things like that, of which it's once again, look at, look at Bridgerton, look at Hamilton's, look at those kinds of shows.
21:12
Eric: It's not meant to be a historically accurate, because if they do wanna do that, it's fine, do that, but it's not Hallmark.
21:21
Eric: Hallmark we're going for feels right, we're not going for that.
21:24
Eric: So it did not bother me, but it bothered a lot of people.
21:27
Eric: I personally think that they have bigger issues, but whatever, yeah, agreed, I didn't even notice.
21:33
Eric: My whole issue of it was that he was just pushing forward and you know I hate that.
21:43
Andrea: Clearly it doesn't bother me.
21:44
Andrea: Speaking of character corner coming up next, derek was my favorite character who was played by Nathan Witt.
21:51
Andrea: For me he was the highlight of the movie.
21:53
Andrea: I thought he was definitely the best actor there.
21:57
Andrea: So I mean, again, this could be me being like, hey, maybe he grounded the movie a little bit because they needed someone, maybe with a little bit more experience in acting and who could anchor it, and so I feel like he did that in those scenes.
22:11
Andrea: He definitely carried, he felt prepared and ready to take this role on.
22:16
Andrea: So for me I really enjoyed him.
22:18
Andrea: Standout character, best actor of the movie.
22:23
Andrea: I didn't notice, I guess, the age thing or I didn't think about it as much as you.
22:28
Andrea: I don't know why.
22:30
Andrea: I mean, I guess maybe if it's obvious like to me, I'm like okay.
22:35
Eric: He does look very youthful.
22:37
Andrea: Yeah, I was like ballpark early 30s.
22:39
Eric: I didn't look him up to see but and I'll be honest, the reason why it stuck out to me and why I did go look at it is color murder and his character there is.
22:50
Eric: I realized he's like Julie Gonzalo type, age, right, so it just sort of I realized that.
23:00
Eric: And then when I looked him up I'm like, oh, he's even probably a little bit older than that.
23:03
Eric: So that's why I just found him not like I say not that fit.
23:10
Andrea: Well, who is your standout character?
23:14
Eric: I guess Nanny Like I say I didn't mind the two leads, but I think Nanny and it's kind of just I wish they would have built her a little bit more into it.
23:24
Eric: It was kind of funny when she's like wait a minute, I've read a whole bunch of Sherlock Holmes so I know how to solve this mystery, but then she just sort of doesn't do it.
23:34
Eric: I wish they would have allowed her a little bit more room into it, kind of being the Watson type character and maybe giving a little more advice.
23:46
Eric: And I think they could have that could have added, because that was like a little fun tone to it which the movie didn't have a lot of humor in it and I think they could have injected her into it to give a little bit of levitate throughout it.
23:58
Eric: And I wish they would have had a little bit more of her.
24:01
Eric: So I thought she had a lot of room and I said I do hope that we have a couple more of these.
24:09
Eric: I think almost all mysteries, unless they are just completely DOA, should get a couple so they have the opportunity to grow.
24:18
Eric: And I think Nanny being a little bit more of that sort of support behind the scenes type thing could be a very fun character.
24:29
Andrea: I have a question about her.
24:30
Andrea: Is she in the book so like this is actually Emma's Nanny?
24:34
Eric: Oh yeah, she is.
24:35
Eric: Actually she is in the book.
24:36
Eric: She I was thinking the forensic woman is not a character in the book, but Nanny is in the book and she had dated Mr Mason way back in the day and so she helps along a little bit more.
24:56
Eric: But once again, it's a book so you have a lot more space to do that.
25:00
Eric: So she wasn't there.
25:01
Eric: I think she was.
25:03
Eric: If I'm not mistaken, she was her Nanny growing up and she basically stayed with her from being a kid all the way through being a young adult.
25:16
Andrea: Okay, okay, that's where I was also trying to like gather that I'm like Nanny.
25:20
Andrea: That seems odd that a 21 year old has a Nanny still, and they briefly talked about the parents being gone.
25:26
Andrea: So that's where I was like am I getting this right?
25:29
Andrea: Is that legit her Nanny?
25:30
Andrea: Or is maybe that lady her name and she's the maid?
25:32
Andrea: I was trying to piece that together.
25:34
Eric: She had.
25:35
Eric: In the book she also has a maid, but they couldn't have the maid in the movie because the maid, she's the one who creates the red herring for Nealey as well, because in the book she's sexually assaulted and way too heavy of stuff and has a miscarriage and yeah.
25:55
Eric: So it's like way not hallmarky in that stuff with that character and Nealey.
26:00
Eric: She thinks Nealey was the father who, whatever.
26:03
Eric: So that was part of the way to create that suspect of Nealey, which obviously didn't happen.
26:13
Eric: So they just left it with having the girlfriend that the family didn't like.
26:19
Eric: That makes more sense.
26:22
Eric: Yeah, yeah, so it creates way more tension and way more like there are a lot of things that just wouldn't translate into a hallmark movie that were in the book.
26:30
Eric: It was definitely a little spicer kind of like all of the books.
26:34
Eric: We talk curious cater with.
26:36
Eric: The Goldie's ex husband is physically assaulted and abuses and to the point of messing up her finger for life and going to jails and all that sort of crazy stuff.
26:49
Eric: That's not gonna happen in our books.
26:51
Eric: It's not fun.
26:53
Andrea: Well, any final thoughts?
26:54
Andrea: Like for me, I wrote down a couple.
26:56
Andrea: I thought it was interesting the scene when Emma jumped off the carriage when the buggy was going because it didn't flip like she legit.
27:04
Andrea: If you watch it again I watched it a couple of times I'm like, oh, she throws herself off.
27:08
Andrea: I don't know why.
27:09
Andrea: I mean, I'm sure, for entry.
27:11
Andrea: I'm like, oh, this was.
27:13
Eric: Going back to the book, it's because in the book the wheel breaks and it starts flipping over, so it's like half off a cliff, so she's diving to stay there.
27:24
Eric: But I agree with you, cause I was like expecting it and I was like wait a minute, Where's the cliff, where's the thing that's going to create this tension?
27:31
Eric: And it wasn't there.
27:32
Eric: And same thing with you, I was like wait a minute, she just stopped in the middle of the street so.
27:37
Andrea: Yeah, I thought that was kind of silly.
27:39
Andrea: I also thought Adelaide.
27:42
Andrea: At the end she says, no, you don't understand, and Jesse says, oh, but I do.
27:47
Andrea: And then I was like, no, can you explain to the audience?
27:51
Andrea: Like I don't understand what just happened.
27:53
Andrea: Can you explain?
27:53
Andrea: Like to me I was just like well, let us in on this secret.
27:57
Andrea: I would like more explanation of this please.
27:59
Andrea: So I feel like they could have thrown in at least a little like here's why you know a little more background on the whole Adelaide tension there and I was trying to piece together.
28:09
Andrea: So even now, just you saying that that older man was her husband.
28:13
Andrea: It wasn't that young guy that came to Emma.
28:17
Andrea: So the whole time, like until you just said that I was thinking it was the guy with that.
28:21
Eric: No, rupert, rupert, hey, go get me.
28:24
Eric: Go get me my cane, so we can, so I can leave.
28:28
Eric: I can't go up there, I'm too.
28:29
Eric: So yeah, that was her husband.
28:33
Andrea: Well, I missed that in two viewings.
28:35
Andrea: I thought that the second viewing, but I was like, well, no, because I don't really see him in anything.
28:39
Andrea: I thought that younger guy who had the cane was the guy.
28:42
Andrea: So that's okay.
28:43
Eric: Yeah Well, there you go Now.
28:45
Andrea: Miss that.
28:47
Eric: So now I guess that Once again, I guess that gets back.
28:50
Eric: Well, I don't know if that's directing or editing then, but yeah.
28:54
Andrea: Little things like that easy to miss if you don't flesh out some of the characters.
28:59
Eric: What did you?
28:59
Andrea: think.
29:02
Eric: I was ready to roll into my Hallmark trivia.
29:04
Andrea: Oh, you're done.
29:05
Andrea: No final thoughts.
29:06
Andrea: Yeah, my final thoughts.
29:08
Eric: My final thought Give us another one.
29:10
Eric: That was all right, it's you know, it was okay.
29:12
Eric: Give us another one, I'm ready to move on.
29:16
Eric: Well, yeah, we've got two more mysteries that are already announced from Hallmark, all sorts of other crazy Hallmark news.
29:22
Eric: So let's move on.
29:24
Eric: Let's get another one.
29:26
Eric: Give it another shot to really develop the characters and let us know a little bit more about them and maybe, you know, let us care a little bit more so and you know.
29:39
Eric: Second one now that they have an idea what they're going into, maybe they sort of embrace the character in the age and period or whatever, a little bit better.
29:48
Eric: But once again, I say it didn't bother me, it just it was a hallmark.
29:52
Eric: Take on a period.
29:53
Eric: That's how I took it, all right.
29:56
Eric: So here's my trivia, which I've been just waiting to do.
29:59
Eric: Did you recognize who Alice Vanderbilt was?
30:06
Andrea: No, I don't.
30:08
Eric: April Othellic.
30:09
Eric: Yes, I did.
30:10
Eric: Then Irene from Grassail.
30:12
Andrea: Yes, okay, that's what she was I so I'm staring at her, I'm like gosh.
30:17
Andrea: She looks so familiar.
30:17
Andrea: She must be in another mystery, and I feel like I just watched it.
30:21
Eric: That's yes, yes, your favorite fedora wearing.
30:25
Andrea: That's who it is, whatever, yes.
30:27
Eric: And to make it even kind of a little nifty, or, gertrude, her daughter is actually her daughter.
30:34
Andrea: Eva Othellic, oh, that's awesome, so it was mom daughter playing mom daughter in the movie.
30:41
Eric: But when I saw April Othellic it was funny because I looked at kind of like you and then I went to the thing to see who it was.
30:47
Eric: I'm like no way that's Irene, who we just talked about, for being in like all these hallmark mysteries, having these little pieces.
30:55
Eric: And there she is again.
30:56
Eric: Oh, I love that.
30:58
Eric: And then the other one of Milford, her boss.
31:01
Eric: You do know who that was right.
31:04
Andrea: That was Norman.
31:05
Eric: Yeah.
31:06
Andrea: Yes.
31:06
Eric: Well, Norman from Science Hill.
31:08
Andrea: Deliver Science Hill Deliver, yes, yes.
31:10
Eric: Yes, so he always.
31:12
Eric: And the funny thing is, whenever he plays anything other than Norman, he's always like kind of a jerky guy I've discovered.
31:18
Eric: But he played it great.
31:20
Eric: His role.
31:22
Eric: He just did a fantastic job being unlikable for so for that little bit of time that he was on screen I thought he was.
31:30
Eric: He was fantastic.
31:31
Eric: Like no, let me tell you what women want, emma.
31:35
Eric: And that was brilliant.
31:37
Eric: And, as you know, I'm the feminist of the group.
31:40
Eric: So I just was like no, norman, you do not tell Emma what it's like, what women want.
31:48
Andrea: That's funny.
31:50
Eric: But I like seeing just the other, those characters that we recognized.
31:54
Andrea: I agree.
31:54
Andrea: I agree, I thought that was fun.
31:55
Andrea: I'm glad we connected that dot.
31:57
Andrea: My trivia has nothing to do necessarily with Walmart, but so the Astros I think they mentioned them in this movie and it's in Gilded Age, like they're a predominant family.
32:08
Andrea: So I just went on my own little Google train with this.
32:11
Andrea: So John Jacob Astor the fifth was one of the US first billionaires.
32:16
Andrea: He actually died in the Titanic.
32:19
Andrea: His wife was pregnant at the time and then he didn't survive.
32:22
Andrea: His son was now named after him and he was famous for building a lot of the famous elite hotels in New York.
32:29
Andrea: And so when they mentioned the Astor I mean they talked about it more in the HBO Gilded Age I was like I am connecting the dots with the family.
32:36
Andrea: It wasn't the same Astor that I think they focus on in the show.
32:40
Andrea: It might have been siblings or relatives of some sort, but I just found that to be a little fascinating little thread from the Gilded Time period.
32:50
Eric: As we scoot away from this to the Gilded Age, like HBO.
32:54
Eric: What I've wondered is the main couple and Gilded Age if they're actually supposed to be the Vanderbilt's, because they're these railroad tycoons and if they're just them and because they do do the Astros.
33:09
Eric: In the book they also talk about the Astors being not like a Ravory, but they do definitely reference them and I don't know if maybe later in later chapters of the book, astors are a little more prominent, but they were sort of the big families.
33:25
Andrea: They were.
33:26
Andrea: I have also read that thread because they said that is the.
33:29
Andrea: The Russell's are, you know, modeled after the Vanderbilt's and they did have a real life Vanderbilt's men, mrs Astor.
33:35
Andrea: Those two had a real life rivalry and, just like the whole thing that happened with opera, all of that was actually true and so it's interesting when you kind of look back at some of these stories you know from this time period and you know, I think for me, because you know, hallmark and Chill is the next segment, that would be a show if you are into the Gilded Age, I think that Gilded Age on HBO Max is something to check out.
33:59
Andrea: There is, you know, meryl Streep's daughter is playing the lead.
34:03
Andrea: She is I don't remember her character's name, but she is the blonde that moves in with her aunts.
34:08
Andrea: That is Meryl Streep's daughter.
34:10
Andrea: Wait, that is yeah, yeah.
34:12
Andrea: So it's just interesting.
34:15
Andrea: It's a great.
34:15
Andrea: It's a great little show.
34:16
Andrea: I think it's by the same person who wrote Downton Abbey, fellows and the other period pieces.
34:23
Andrea: You know Bridgerton, but Downton Abbey, I think, all of those, if you're into period pieces, they're all really well done.
34:29
Andrea: I love them all.
34:30
Andrea: You probably have something similar.
34:33
Eric: I had.
34:33
Eric: Once again, if you really want the that period thing, go for the bigger budget Downton Abbey, gilded Age, bridgerton but for the sluice, looking for some little more period thing there's over on Acorn, miss Fisher's Mysteries I want to say I think she's the 20s, if I'm not mistaken, as well as an Agatha Christie Tommy and Tipper Tommy and forget what her name is.
35:01
Eric: But they partners in Chromium.
35:03
Eric: It's a husband and wife and once again they're around the same time and I think if you're looking for that you know it's not the 1895, but they definitely are early, you know, pre-depression era, when you know the wrong 20s kind of thing.
35:20
Eric: So they're kind of fun mysteries as well.
35:24
Eric: So they're a little more of that cozy mystery feel.
35:26
Eric: So you can go get your cozy mystery there, whereas I wouldn't say the Gilded Age and Downton Abbey's are necessarily mystery, that mystery feel to them by any means.
35:36
Eric: Now they do have every now and then a little shenanigan type thing, but for the most part is that period drama piece I think.
35:44
Andrea: Yeah, well, what about fan corner?
35:46
Andrea: Do you have anything there?
35:48
Eric: Well, my fan corner is I reached out just to a couple of people when I, after I started getting your your tax master, I'm like so, is this going to be?
35:56
Eric: Is this terrible?
35:57
Eric: And the people I only talked to two, but they were both like no, this is okay.
36:02
Eric: So I think they were more along in my camp, Like it's not great, but I like it, I'm enjoying it, it's fun.
36:11
Eric: So I know you did your poll and I think I kind of align with the poll and seemed like most people, I think.
36:19
Andrea: Yeah, I broke down the poll and so 45% were middle of the road.
36:24
Andrea: Three out of five stars.
36:25
Andrea: We had 19% four out of five stars, so some people really liked it, and then 35% a one or two star.
36:35
Andrea: So this is probably the most heavy actually that I've seen in the one to two star camp, even besides some of the regular is out of a possible choice Right.
36:47
Andrea: Yep, so there's a five star, four star, three or one, two I just combine, and most I don't have a ton that has a heavy on the one two star.
36:57
Andrea: So this was one that actually had quite a few falling there, and I do think the commercials really do kill these mysteries, because having watched it that day I know you have and having watched it the next day both times, I enjoyed it.
37:10
Andrea: Not that I enjoyed it, I mean, you know it still would be a two star for me, but it was better than night one watching it with commercials.
37:17
Andrea: So I feel like, if you are someone who struggles with, if they feel really, really slow, watch it the next day without the commercials and it does pick up a little bit of speed.
37:28
Eric: I think even if you do stop to fast forward, it's still sort of delays where I don't mind that as much, but when you when, like, I watch a museum peacock in the morning and no commercial, then then, right, it just sort of does that black for a second and then it comes back, and so I feel it just keeps the pace of the story a little better.
37:47
Eric: But the some of them where I'm just so excited I have to watch it live and, kind of like you, I'm on Twitter, I'm on, you know, social, looking and seeing what everyone else says and contributing as well.
38:02
Eric: Sometimes I'll do that just because I like say, I'm caught up in the excitement.
38:06
Eric: I want to watch it live.
38:07
Eric: But then, like you, I then watch it again the other way and I forget which mystery it was.
38:14
Eric: It may have been, I think, a curious caterer.
38:18
Eric: When I first watched it on Peacock and like whoa, this is actually it was, it was a carrot cake because I was traveling and.
38:30
Eric: I was like, oh wow, this is way better and it was like a whole different experience seeing it.
38:35
Eric: You know, going from scene to scene, so I would recommend it.
38:39
Eric: I know hallmarks a not a streaming network, so they of course want us watching it, with commercials and all that.
38:47
Eric: So I get it.
38:48
Eric: Yeah.
38:51
Andrea: Well, what are we reviewing next next week?
38:53
Andrea: What have you got on the docket.
38:55
Eric: So next there's a whole ton of hallmark news coming out, so we're going to be talking about that, the.
39:03
Eric: What is it?
39:04
Eric: There is the crime time, which is the movie with Luke McFarland and Lindy Greenwood, where she's the, the TV crime actress, who then moves into the little town and her and looks super cute.
39:22
Eric: Solve a real mystery.
39:23
Eric: It has a Stacy Harding who we're going to be talking to as the director, and she's directed literally every, every series of a hallmark mystery out there, as well as a ton of the romcom, so she's a great, great director.
39:39
Eric: So I'm feeling good about that.
39:41
Eric: We've all been saying we want Luke in a mystery, so that's fantastic.
39:46
Eric: And Lindy Greenwood she's really cute.
39:49
Andrea: Well, now we're at my favorite part.
39:50
Andrea: Well, maybe not anymore.
39:51
Andrea: Oh wait, oh no.
39:53
Eric: Forget.
39:53
Eric: Then Homer just announced the fashion one.
39:56
Eric: What is it the?
39:58
Eric: Let me get to.
39:59
Eric: What is it called Crimes of fashion killer?
40:04
Eric: Clutch with Brooke Dior, say, and Giles Marini.
40:09
Eric: Do you know him?
40:11
Andrea: He's a guy from Sex in the City that you know.
40:13
Andrea: Samantha's eating her chips with the hat and she looks up and he's the shower guy.
40:19
Eric: I cannot handle Sex in the City, so I do not know anything about it, other than there's the four of them.
40:24
Andrea: Sure, everyone who is a Sex in the City fan knows exactly what I'm talking about.
40:29
Eric: So I know I'm looking for this.
40:31
Eric: I'll just quickly say an American psychologist, hired to coach a fashion designer helps a guarded French detective unravel a list of fashion suspects after a murder happens backstage at a Paris fashion show.
40:45
Eric: And I will say last year Sydney and I were like the 10 ideas we think would make a great mystery.
40:52
Eric: This was one of them.
40:53
Eric: So all marks I listen in and they are taking our idea, which is fine.
40:58
Eric: I think it's going to be great.
41:00
Eric: And I think Brooke Dior say can look so pretty in her hair up.
41:06
Eric: I know she's not necessarily your top, I do like her.
41:12
Eric: I do like her.
41:13
Eric: She she's one who I never think about, but then I always end up liking when I see her in something.
41:19
Eric: And then homework just released some other big news that they are rebranding homework movies and mysteries to homework mysteries, which means they are all in on the Mr Game, which not the worst thing for us, right.
41:36
Andrea: I'm excited.
41:36
Andrea: I mean I just said, as long as they keep like my murder she wrote, and diagnosis murder and monk, which someone said it's cheap to keep the shows and syndication it's, you know, that's a good thing for the network.
41:48
Andrea: So I'm hoping that they still have some of those shows because I do enjoy going on there, even though I can watch it on peacock like murder shirts on peacock, so I can just stream in any time.
41:57
Andrea: But it's still nice.
41:57
Andrea: I like to pop in live and, you know, get that feel occasionally.
42:02
Eric: So now does the, do you think the Golden Girls and Frazier's of the world?
42:08
Andrea: And hopefully, well, that's on the regular channel, so that should be fine.
42:12
Eric: Okay, okay.
42:13
Eric: So they're not playing that overnight.
42:14
Eric: Right, they're doing homework or actually me Murdershire, right overnight.
42:19
Andrea: Yes, they've changed up their, their mystery line up since Christmas.
42:23
Andrea: So Murdershire wrote used to be out in the mornings, which I really liked, because that's I have a murder.
42:27
Andrea: She cooked no, yeah, murder, she cooked cookbook, and so I was watching the episode of her first would air and then I would make that recipe for dinner that night and I was sharing that on Instagram.
42:37
Andrea: It was kind of a fun little thing.
42:38
Andrea: It only goes through the first six seasons, this cookbook, but it had a recipe for every episode of murder.
42:44
Eric: She wrote first six seasons.
42:47
Andrea: And then she's making a second cookbook for the next six seasons, because that takes a lot of work to do.
42:51
Andrea: A recipe for every single episode and she ties the recipe into the episode.
42:56
Eric: And how many episodes during the season 24.
42:58
Eric: Yeah, so that's a zillion recipes.
43:00
Eric: Yeah.
43:01
Andrea: Yeah, so it's a.
43:02
Andrea: I mean it's a really cool thing If anyone's a Murdershire fan.
43:05
Andrea: It's a fun little way to be like hey, what's for dinner?
43:07
Andrea: And sometimes it's a breakfast thing, so maybe you make it the next day.
43:11
Eric: Yours is me.
43:12
Eric: I always figure out a way to get Brooke Burns figured out into an episode.
43:16
Eric: You always get a way to get Jessica Fletcher into an episode I know All right, let's move on.
43:22
Eric: I was thinking that All right.
43:24
Andrea: The way home, the way home corner, let's hop in the pond.
43:27
Andrea: Okay, so here's episodes three recap.
43:29
Andrea: It was titled when you Were Young, the Landry Women.
43:32
Andrea: Reflect On and Come to Terms with what it Means to Grow Up.
43:36
Andrea: I'm going to debate that, but first we came up with some segment ideas for the way home, so we're focused on this one.
43:44
Andrea: So first is just what we liked about the episode and honestly, I only wrote down one thing For me Dell's horse was.
43:50
Andrea: That was it.
43:51
Andrea: I always wanted a horse growing up and my dad said no, because I wasn't going to get up at six AM to feed the horse before school, which is very true because I grew up on a farm, so I never got a horse.
44:03
Andrea: So that was my feel having Dell with her horse and having her own experience, I was all in on that.
44:11
Eric: My brother has horses and it is a full time job taking care of them, so I see where your dad's coming from.
44:18
Eric: I will say, as I'm watching more and more, I think I liked Dell and I'll end there, okay.
44:29
Andrea: And what we didn't like.
44:30
Andrea: For me it felt like a filler episode.
44:33
Andrea: I don't know if we really went anywhere besides introduce a bazillion characters that I was like take them or leave them.
44:40
Andrea: I really wasn't that interested in this episode.
44:44
Andrea: So there was a lot that I didn't like.
44:45
Andrea: I really I don't know where we're going.
44:48
Andrea: That was one of the things which I'll share at the end.
44:51
Andrea: Any final thoughts?
44:52
Andrea: Because with the poll, where are we going with season two is just my biggest question mark.
44:57
Andrea: It just doesn't feel like they had this fleshed out.
45:00
Andrea: It felt like this episode was hey, let's introduce like 5,000 things and let's see what people were interested in.
45:07
Andrea: I'm not even theorizing because season one, you're like oh, I wonder if this happens.
45:12
Andrea: For me, I'm not even invested enough to theorize where we're going, because I just feel like Kat is being so selfish and what if her brother wants to stay there?
45:23
Andrea: He's engaged, she has a happy life.
45:24
Eric: Of course he wants to stay there.
45:26
Andrea: As Elliot's saying, and then I'm like she's just like no, he needs to be with me.
45:29
Andrea: But then, in the same time, your daughter is growing up.
45:31
Andrea: She's in like she's going to be out of the house.
45:34
Andrea: You're missing her youth and her childhood, fixated on your brother, and so it just it's a rough slugging.
45:41
Eric: Are you just saying what I said last week?
45:43
Eric: And this is where.
45:45
Andrea: I feel like this episode really kicked it for me because her intensity I could feel like before she had some softness to her character, but this one it just felt like she can.
45:56
Andrea: Only she's just got the blinders on and that's all she can see, and I am getting frustrated with that.
46:02
Andrea: What about you?
46:04
Eric: I think she is emotionally less mature than her daughter.
46:09
Eric: For all those reasons You're just saying she just is cat, cat, cat.
46:15
Eric: Screw everybody else.
46:16
Eric: She's a mom.
46:17
Eric: I think cat excuse me, alice should be off with her dad, who I don't like, cause I told you I think he's a creep, but I guess he's not.
46:25
Eric: But she should be in Minnesota which I know you would not argue with with her dad and his new girlfriend, fiance, whoever, cause I don't care how bad is girlfriend is, she's probably better than cat is to her.
46:40
Eric: She's cats.
46:40
Eric: Just a lesson of somebody who needs major, major counseling.
46:47
Eric: And with you too.
46:47
Eric: I'm like, if that Jacob is spent the 16 plus years back in this time, made a life Elliot said it been there longer than he was with cat engaged that dude's not going to want to hop in the pond and go back and give up everything to do you know, be with you.
47:11
Eric: And if he does, if that is where it goes, it's beyond ridiculous.
47:15
Eric: This is just to me, going back in time, I sang how Gilded Newport Mysteries had this like YA feel to it, this show.
47:24
Eric: To me this seems to be getting more YA-ish and just.
47:29
Eric: I don't know.
47:30
Eric: Being an adult, I'm just having a struggle of trying to stay engaged in it.
47:35
Eric: I know a lot of people love it.
47:37
Eric: I'm just having a really hard time with it.
47:40
Andrea: Well stand out.
47:41
Andrea: Seeing her performance for me was Del riding the horse.
47:43
Andrea: That was, that was it.
47:45
Andrea: That was all my feels.
47:46
Eric: Bear back too I thought that was right.
47:48
Eric: I was like waiting for her to find a saddle and they're like, nope, she's just getting right on there.
47:53
Andrea: I love that scene.
47:54
Andrea: What about you?
47:54
Andrea: Anything, anything, stick out.
47:58
Eric: Yep, when Kat fell back into the pond, like you want me to show you who I am and then fall backwards into the pond.
48:04
Eric: I don't know how they're going to work that in, but I was thinking, you know, you're 1814, they're probably pretty much like this woman is the devil or like something, not a time traveler, because that concept in 1814 is just not something that you can't comprehend.
48:24
Eric: It no, right, but somewhat, I think, because you have science fiction now, but in 1814, no, that woman is getting hung soon as she is back in that that time period.
48:39
Andrea: Well, what are we hoping is coming or not coming in future episodes?
48:42
Andrea: You know, for me, again I felt cat just feel so desperate and just the.
48:48
Andrea: So I hope that they can soften I don't her character arc.
48:52
Andrea: It went from being someone who's likable and you know, like OK, I can see where she's coming from, to this season feeling just really harsh and again not seeing anything outside of herself.
49:04
Andrea: And you know, even her, when she got stuck there, I think it was an episode two and they're questioning like should I stay for my brother or do I go back for my daughter?
49:11
Andrea: Like you know, who is this character?
49:15
Andrea: I feel like she, she needs to be kind of fleshed out better than what they did.
49:19
Andrea: And Alice has done a complete 180 from where she started in season one with that rebellious teenager and you know, having the party skipping school, to like now being the mature one who you are.
49:30
Andrea: Like she is the guidance she's trying to console, like her grandma with thinking she's going to lose the farm.
49:35
Andrea: And you know she just seems so much more like where cat should be, like these should be flipped, like these should not be, like we are it's freaky Friday, right, so like it just feels like they're in reverse, like as we were talking about last episode, with getting stuck in that like kid mindset, like cats in a kid mindset, and Alice is in that adult mindset which is strippy.
49:57
Eric: I think he kind of summed it up for me too.
49:58
Eric: I earlier on, while I was not loving it, I did find the character of cat had some sort of sympathy for her empathy, right, and I don't have it now and, as you said, the arc that they've taken her on is to being just purely selfish.
50:19
Eric: As I said, you have kids, I have kids.
50:22
Eric: I'm sorry.
50:24
Eric: Your kids come above literally anything else.
50:28
Eric: It's.
50:29
Eric: I don't care who it is siblings, spouse, whoever Kids are number one, and if not, I don't know.
50:35
Eric: It's an issue.
50:35
Eric: You have some serious, serious issues that I just can't get around right now with her character.
50:45
Andrea: Well, final thoughts for me.
50:47
Andrea: I did the poll on this one and so 50% loved it, 35% said I'm not sure where the season is going and then 15% said I'm out.
50:56
Andrea: It lost its way.
50:58
Andrea: But then when I, if you added those all up the 50%, it would be a 50-50 split between people who are also a little concerned and then people who are still loving it.
51:07
Andrea: So that was interesting to see.
51:09
Andrea: I was actually shocked that we still have a good chunk who are loving it.
51:13
Eric: I am too.
51:15
Andrea: I was surprised it wasn't more in the what's going on here, because I feel like they haven't given us much in these three episodes to really say yay, we're as good as we were first season.
51:27
Eric: Yeah, I'm finding the going back in time to 1814, a little bit of a corny.
51:35
Eric: Whatever plot thing just to.
51:40
Eric: I don't know.
51:41
Eric: I think they could do a second season.
51:42
Eric: Yeah, and I don't know.
51:45
Eric: It's silly.
51:46
Eric: I'll be honest.
51:47
Eric: I dropped out initially after the third episode of the first season and if we weren't talking about it, I probably would do the same.
51:58
Andrea: I mean, I'm kind of at that place too, like I'm going to keep watching because I want to see it through.
52:02
Andrea: But, as I said, the last episode, the next two, were kind of the make or break it for me, and right now we are at a not great point.
52:11
Andrea: And then the preview for the next episode, when they were like, hey, I'm being erased from pictures.
52:17
Andrea: I'm like, oh no, so now what are we going to do?
52:20
Andrea: And so now we just get into a whole realm of oh wait, explain that to me.
52:25
Eric: She found some pictures that were taped to the like.
52:28
Eric: What?
52:29
Eric: How Like?
52:31
Eric: No one's noticed pictures taped to this table for ages and ages and ages.
52:37
Eric: I don't, I don't, I didn't even understand.
52:40
Eric: That was like as perplexing to me as Rupert, being allies husband, was to you when I met.
52:49
Eric: How did I completely miss something here?
52:53
Andrea: But Well, here's to hoping next week is is better and we enjoy it more.
53:01
Eric: I will say that first episode I did have some post because I thought that ending.
53:06
Eric: Oh yeah where they split up, went to the two different things.
53:09
Eric: She came out and there was the gunshot.
53:11
Eric: Like I thought that set up like this is going to be a wild ride and, like, to your point, it's just been a snooze fast of somebody who just should be in therapy.
53:24
Andrea: Well, it's been a pleasure, as always.
53:27
Eric: It has.
53:27
Eric: We have two more weeks now until our next mystery and this Friday talking to the I guess that's what I forgot I'm talking to the Justice Warriors, so that should be a fun conversation.
53:40
Eric: There are four people we never interviewed four people at once Maybe a little chaotic, but it'll make for hopefully a fun and interesting conversation.
53:51
Andrea: Well, good luck, I will listen.
53:54
Eric: I will talk to you.
53:56
Andrea: Bye, Eric.