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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone hanging out with you.
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  Speaker 2: There's some Panther paranoia in the air, but we've got
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  Speaker 2: to deal with this over the next couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people texting in with bad feelings about
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  Speaker 2: Panthers going to Philadelphia. About the folks that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to see there or the team? That's twofold. That's twofold. Um,
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  Speaker 2: heads on a swivel folks. Be careful, please. No doubt
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  Speaker 2: about it. Y'all no doubt about it. Take to your head. Unbelievable. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but I will say this though, bone and our next
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  Speaker 2: guest can attest. Sometimes a team is told going into
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  Speaker 2: a game and enemy territory that it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: so hostile. They will not be able to perform that.
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  Speaker 2: They will fold under the pressure and, and Adam Gold
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  Speaker 2: might be able to talk about that, Bone, after what
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  Speaker 2: Manchester City did to his Liverpool football club over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Gold, 99-9 the fan in Raleigh. What's up, Goldie?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that Man City had to upset the entire
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  Speaker 2: soccer world on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's all good. It's good to know that you're
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  Speaker 1: one of those fans that don't care about rules. That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I actually love Liverpool's game. until the bogus sending off
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  Speaker 1: of Ryan Gravenberg, who was the best player on the field,
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  Speaker 1: until that point. But that's okay. Enjoy the points while
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  Speaker 1: they count.
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  Speaker 2: I think we will. I think we will. We may
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  Speaker 2: lose them, but I think we'll try to enjoy it now. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: all right, let's talk about a little more closer-to-home sports
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  Speaker 2: right now. I want to start with the Canes. Thank you,
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  Speaker 2: because that felt personal. The Canes. I knew Goldie had
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  Speaker 2: that snark right back. I mean, he's got plenty of
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  Speaker 2: material to use. All right, Goldie, the Canes are on
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  Speaker 2: fire right now. Five straight wins. They're beating the heck
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  Speaker 2: out of Philly and then trolling the entire city on
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  Speaker 2: social media, on their social account. I love it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think about the way they're playing right now?
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  Speaker 2: Because it seems like they've hit a groove.
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  Speaker 1: The last five games have been very, very Canes-like. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've dominated play in every phase. I actually think the
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  Speaker 1: game on Sunday was the worst of the five, and
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  Speaker 1: they won 4-1. I didn't think they were very good,
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  Speaker 1: but when they were good, they scored. So it created
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  Speaker 1: the separation. But combined, those five wins were over teams
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  Speaker 1: with five total wins. Philly hasn't won yet. Montreal's got two.
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  Speaker 1: Vancouver's got two. I'm trying to think the other team
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  Speaker 1: they beat. It doesn't really matter. Chicago has won. So
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  Speaker 1: it's not like they beat the murderer's row. Tonight will
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  Speaker 1: be a different test against the Washington Capitals. But I
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  Speaker 1: love the way the team's playing, and I think they're
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  Speaker 1: great anyway. And they're probably not that far away from
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  Speaker 1: getting Seth Jarvis back.
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  Speaker 3: Adam, there's a lot to talk about from the result
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  Speaker 3: of Wake Forest and NC State this past Saturday. It's
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  Speaker 3: the good for Wake Forest, but we'll start with the
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  Speaker 3: negative for NC State and the blowout loss. How hot
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  Speaker 3: is the seat for Dave Doran right now, and is
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  Speaker 3: this the beginning of the end for him, do we think?
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  Speaker 1: I think Dave Doran calls his own shot. I've always
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  Speaker 1: thought that. I think Dave will be the coach until
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  Speaker 1: Dave doesn't want to be the coach. I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but I said that before David Cutcliffe as well.
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  Speaker 1: And at some point, the administration basically has to take
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  Speaker 1: the keys away. I'm not saying that that's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen with State because the season isn't over yet. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the
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  Speaker 1: world if NC State ended the season with eight wins.
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  Speaker 1: And an 8-4 team with the way they are Supported financially?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the craziest thing that I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Dave has two problems. Dave's problem is messaging
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  Speaker 1: to his fans, which he's not great at.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Except when they're winning. Now, when they're winning, man, they
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  Speaker 1: love salty Dave.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not winning enough. And, frankly, Wake Forest just
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  Speaker 1: kicked their fannies. in the second half. They could not
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  Speaker 1: stop them at all. Look at the five drives in
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  Speaker 1: a row from the last drive of the first half
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  Speaker 1: through the first four drives of the second half. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Wake Forest went them through a goose, man. It was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. Goldie, I wanted to bring up about
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  Speaker 2: Dave's message into the fans. And you're right. When they're
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  Speaker 2: beating Carolina or they're winning big games and you get
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  Speaker 2: solo cup and cigar, Dave, oh my God, NC State
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  Speaker 2: fans love it. But that answer the other day to
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  Speaker 2: a truly legitimate question about why the heck against opponents
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  Speaker 2: not named Richmond, they are getting obliterated in the second
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  Speaker 2: half of games. And him acting like, oh, it's execution,
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  Speaker 2: which to me is blaming players, can't be lack of
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  Speaker 2: adjustments or other teams adjust. Like, that can't be what
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  Speaker 2: fans want to hear, man.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not what anybody wants to hear. Sometimes, and
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  Speaker 1: I've used this with Roy Williams all the time. Roy Williams,
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  Speaker 1: who is, I don't know, one of the top six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight coaches in the history of college basketball. When his
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  Speaker 1: team played poorly... It was never about them. It was
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  Speaker 1: always about him. Now, he might not have been telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth, but your fans want to know that you
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  Speaker 1: are not, you are being accountable. And Dave, whether he's
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  Speaker 1: right or not, and my assumption is he's probably more
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  Speaker 1: right than not, is that you still can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't couch accountability by saying, well, we have
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  Speaker 1: to do a better job of helping them execute because
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  Speaker 1: you're essentially saying, yeah, it's them, not me. And fans
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. And so again, he might
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  Speaker 1: be right, but you can't say it. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: that bothered me was when they asked him, how do
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  Speaker 1: you have made, what do you make of wake doing
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  Speaker 1: this with their resources? And Dave pretended to not know
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  Speaker 1: that wake is, barely funding their football program.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not know that? Oh, yeah, that was shameless.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he knows it, but he doesn't want to admit
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  Speaker 1: it to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: He can't acknowledge it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you acknowledge that you got, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it absolutely shoved into you by a team that was
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  Speaker 1: funded maybe a third of what you're funded, that's, you
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. And he refused to do it. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was a good question. And by the way, Wink, It's, like,
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  Speaker 1: legitimately good. I don't think they're, you know, playoff good,
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  Speaker 1: but they're legitimately good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that was my question. How much are you buying
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  Speaker 3: into the playoff chatter? There are some projections. SI.com has
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  Speaker 3: them as a playoff team. Why aren't you buying in
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  Speaker 3: as the Deacs as a second team out of the ACC?
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'll do that. I'll do that if they keep winning. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they're going 11-1.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking with Adam Gold, 99-9. Excuse me for asking.
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  Speaker 2: In Raleigh. We had a suspicion Goldie would not play
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  Speaker 2: your Wake Forest playoff game. I said there's no way
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  Speaker 2: Goldie's buying into Wake's playoff team. They have to go 11-1.
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  Speaker 2: And then the problem is, on top of that, they
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  Speaker 2: probably have to beat Miami in a rematch in the ACC.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, 11-2 with losses to Miami,
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  Speaker 2: as good as Miami is, they're going to take a
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  Speaker 2: three-loss SEC team instead, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if Lake Forest losses, I mean, like, if we
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  Speaker 1: want to play out this mental exercise.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, now we got them in.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, they could lose at Cal. very easily
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  Speaker 1: this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tricky one.
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  Speaker 1: But if Wake's only two losses are to Miami, they're
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  Speaker 1: a playoff team.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you think so? Okay. Well, there we go, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: We got that. Right in this town. They're a playoff
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  Speaker 2: team if their.
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  Speaker 1: Only two losses are to Miami. arguably one of the
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  Speaker 1: top three teams in the country.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, will they have a ranked win? That's
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  Speaker 2: the problem. It's possible they can go this whole season
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  Speaker 2: and not have a ranked win and two losses to Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Who freaking cares if they don't have a ranked win?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Louisville was ranked at the time.
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  Speaker 3: They have SMU, but they need to hang on desperately
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  Speaker 3: to their ranking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's no mechanism. Zero mechanism. For the strength of your schedule. None.
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  Speaker 1: And if they decide to hold wake to it, then
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to scream nonstop for three months about how
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  Speaker 1: fraudulent the system is. Because Indiana didn't play a damn
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  Speaker 1: soul two years ago. Not a soul. So... Wake Forest
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  Speaker 1: non-conference schedule is better than Indiana's was two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: They just kicked everybody's rear end, just like Wake's doing.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. See, Bo, not only do we get
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  Speaker 2: Goldie to engage on Wake's playoff chances, I now gave
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  Speaker 2: him a hypothetical. scenario by which he would scream at
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  Speaker 2: folks on behalf of Wake. He's riding that motorcycle like
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  Speaker 2: a deacon. What do you think about UNC getting a
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  Speaker 2: win against Pitt? And now I'm sensing from some of
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  Speaker 2: our UNC texters that I'm sensing they think they might
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  Speaker 2: be able to get the victory bell and make it
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  Speaker 2: two upsets in a row. How are you feeling about that?
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  Speaker 1: This is what I expected from Bill Belichick. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're great by any stretch of the imagination, but
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  Speaker 1: it's sort of the opposite. This is not about Dave Dorn.
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  Speaker 1: It's about most college coaches. Most college coaches aren't as
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  Speaker 1: good as Bill Belichick is. at managing and winning games
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  Speaker 1: in the margins. And that's where I think Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: was always going to have an advantage at the college level.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a game or maybe two per year
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  Speaker 1: that he would steal because of the way he does
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  Speaker 1: things and the way he has teams prepared to win
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  Speaker 1: those games in the margins. And that's where they beat Pitt.
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  Speaker 1: They let Pitt make mistakes. I still don't understand. Pat Narduzzi...
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  Speaker 1: You know your quarterback is terrible, right? So whenever you
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  Speaker 1: are presented with the opportunity to get points, take them.
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  Speaker 1: Why you're going for it on fourth down at the
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  Speaker 1: 21-yard line is beyond me. I don't care that there's
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  Speaker 1: four and a quarter left. Just take the three. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to get the ball back, which they did twice.
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  Speaker 1: Bill is brilliant as a football coach, especially in games.
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  Speaker 1: They've got good enough players. They can take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think they're going to beat Duke? I think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a heck of a game. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see how Duke handles Jelani Thurman, Jordan Shipp, three really
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  Speaker 1: good running backs. Duke has to find another way besides
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  Speaker 1: Nate Shepard. That's what scared me about Georgia Tech, that
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  Speaker 1: they were going to take Nate Shepard out of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and as best as you can, they did. And Duke
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  Speaker 1: wasn't able to beat them without using Nate Shepard exclusively.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Goldie, we appreciate it. Goldie, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: people are not mad at you on the text line.
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  Speaker 2: This is an amazing appearance on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Would you like to hear this one guy's comment, though, Goldie?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how this is possible. Goldie sounds like
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  Speaker 3: a bald man.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: How do you tell by a voice if a man
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  Speaker 2: is bald or not?
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  Speaker 1: Because I sound aerodynamic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. All right. Goldie would pass the wind
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  Speaker 2: tunnel test, baby. No doubt about it. Goldie, well, I
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  Speaker 2: did get this text, though. This dude says, I could
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  Speaker 2: hear it in Goldie's voice. The second Mac did the
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  Speaker 2: arrogant Man City fan routine shamelessly, despite 114 guilty charges,
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  Speaker 2: Goldie lost respect for Mac. Is that true? No. Okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: I was worried about that for a second.
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  Speaker 1: When did you become a City fan?
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  Speaker 2: 2018?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know from City. Right when the charges stopped happening.
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  Speaker 1: They're still benefiting from the cheating, but still, you became
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  Speaker 1: a City fan, right, after they had already established themselves
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  Speaker 1: as one of the betters sides in the Premier League.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know that they were once down in League One.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do now. I know all the history now.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all do. So they cheated to get into
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  Speaker 1: the club. Which I totally understand.
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  Speaker 2: Because the rules were established so teams like them can't
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  Speaker 2: get in the club.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The rules are awful.
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  Speaker 2: I just, Goldie, I just wanted to clear that up.
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  Speaker 2: I got worried there. Goldie lost respect for me.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because Bone and Fitty lost
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  Speaker 2: respect for me years ago, but I didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: lose it from you, too. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: He's a Chelsea fan. Like, I got zero respect for Chelsea. Oh!
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  Speaker 2: Man! That's a stray. I'm just minding my own business.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding me who I root for. Goldie,
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  Speaker 2: you are the man, brother. We'll talk to you next week. Later, brother.