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Max Muncy on new Ohtani celly, Torpedo ditch backstory, Chilly vibes · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: From the at least from the left handed side.
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Speaker 2: It pops out past the shortstop, goes up, comes all
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Speaker 2: the way back in, and then goes down.
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Speaker 3: Hey, here we go, Max Munty joining us right now
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Speaker 3: as the Nationals continue a series against these Dodgers, that
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Speaker 3: defending world champs. Max. Great to have you back on.
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Speaker 3: Good to see you got a lot to cover. We
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Speaker 3: haven't talked to you since you had your epic ditch
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Speaker 3: the torpedo bat performance. I know a lot of people
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Speaker 3: are sick of hearing that word, but I just wanted
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Speaker 3: to get your response on FT to how cool that
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Speaker 3: anti torpedo game was. It's like Vulpi and Jazz and
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Speaker 3: some of those guys in the league are the poster boys,
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Speaker 3: and you were kind of the opposite.
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Speaker 2: You know, the torpedo be's pool to me because you know,
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Speaker 2: I told several people there's only been about six or
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Speaker 2: seven different innovations when it comes to the bat, and
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Speaker 2: you know one hundred and sixty years that baseball's been around.
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Speaker 2: You know, the first was he went from maple, and
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Speaker 2: then maple to birch, and then you you cup the bat,
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Speaker 2: uncupped it, and then you have a torpedo bat now.
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Speaker 2: So to me, the idea of it was really cool,
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Speaker 2: just because there's been so little innovation when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the actual bat.
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Speaker 1: But it's not going to be for everybody.
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Speaker 2: You know, same thing when they added the puck to
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Speaker 2: the bottom of the bat for some of those guys.
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Speaker 2: That's it's just not for everybody. Some guys like their
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Speaker 2: bats differently, and so for me my whole career, I've
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Speaker 2: swung the same model on the weight is all the
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Speaker 2: way at the very end of the bat, so you
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Speaker 2: you change that to be more in the center of
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Speaker 2: the bat. It just felt really off to me. And
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Speaker 2: you know, it might be one of those things where
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Speaker 2: I would like it if I had it like all
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Speaker 2: off season to swing, which I think a lot of
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Speaker 2: those Yankees guys did have it for a while, But
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Speaker 2: that's what happens when we've got to work for you
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Speaker 2: comes up with your granted early access to that kind
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Speaker 2: of stuff. So yeah, maybe if I had more time
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Speaker 2: with it, I might like it, But for my swing
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Speaker 2: right now, it's definitely not it.
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Speaker 4: Do you guys have something where you go and like
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Speaker 4: see like a biomechanic engineer, like, hey, we're gonna see
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Speaker 4: your swing we're gonna measure your hands, because back in
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Speaker 4: twenty twelve, I had a teammate, toughy ghosts Witch. You
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Speaker 4: might have played against him. Yeah, he went and saw
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Speaker 4: like a mechanic of some kind and they measured everything.
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Speaker 4: Do you guys have that with the Dodgers to like
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Speaker 4: fit yourself with a bat?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do batfittings, and that's it's actually through Marucci,
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Speaker 2: which is the company that made the Torquedo bat. So
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Speaker 2: a lot of us were shot that we hadn't ever
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Speaker 2: heard about the Torpedo bat or had access to it before.
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Speaker 1: Because we use those guys.
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Speaker 2: They come in and the way it works is they
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Speaker 2: have all their cameras and the you know, statistical measurements,
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Speaker 2: and you they give you different models. They put it
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Speaker 2: on the special scale that they have and it weighs
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Speaker 2: out and it's called BPI. It's basically how hard it
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Speaker 2: is to swing the bat, and so they kind of
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Speaker 2: figure out your model based on that. You you take
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Speaker 2: five to ten swings with about forty different bat models
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Speaker 2: and they figure out, you know, which ones moving through
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Speaker 2: the own the best, which one are you hitting the
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Speaker 2: ball the hardest with the best, are you having the
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Speaker 2: most consistent contact in.
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Speaker 1: The barrel, and.
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Speaker 2: You know, we we do that pretty much very single year.
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Speaker 2: And for me, my bat has always been the best.
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Speaker 2: And my answer to that has been, that's just because
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Speaker 2: I've been swinging at the longest so I know exactly,
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Speaker 2: you know where the weight is and everything in it.
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Speaker 2: So we we do that every year, and a lot
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Speaker 2: of guys have changed bat models because of that.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Max, my guy, this is this is not for me.
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Speaker 5: This first question is from This is an AJ question
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Speaker 5: I was told to say from AJ. I know you
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Speaker 5: guys started off extreme. Did you guys actually think you're
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Speaker 5: gonna go one sixty two and out?
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Speaker 1: This is agent question? Absolutely not. Come on, man, uh
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Speaker 1: you know it, you guys, and how baseball is.
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Speaker 2: Any given night you can run into a guy that's
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Speaker 2: got his best stuff and it's gonna I'll perform you.
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Speaker 2: And you know the other night we ran into Hiss
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Speaker 2: Sosardo and he looked absolutely unbelievable. You know, he was
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Speaker 2: dott and everything. He was ninety eight with the sinker.
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Speaker 2: I think I saw a couple of ninety nine s
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Speaker 2: up there. He was mixing the slider and change up. Well,
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Speaker 2: you know, any given night you're gonna run into a
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Speaker 2: guy like that, and it's just baseball. It's pretty much
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Speaker 2: impossible to win every single game.
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Speaker 1: Max.
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Speaker 5: I want to ask you to I want to pick
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Speaker 5: up from there. Man, Watching you guys is so much fun,
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Speaker 5: right from an ex player, and I just want you
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Speaker 5: to touch on how important it is because you don't
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Speaker 5: see it every day and you've been around you guys
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Speaker 5: have a group that really truly looks like you guys
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Speaker 5: care about winning and care about each other and want
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Speaker 5: to see each other do well. And we talk about
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Speaker 5: a lot of other things, but we don't talk about
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Speaker 5: that enough.
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Speaker 4: The character in chemistry.
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Speaker 5: How big is that being for you and a reason
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Speaker 5: why you stayed and probably so well. You probably could
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Speaker 5: have win. A guy you know with somewhere else got
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Speaker 5: the Max dollar, but you wanted to stay there and
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Speaker 5: be a Dodger.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it kind of means everything to me.
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Speaker 2: And it's something at least created in the clubhouse. It's
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Speaker 2: the culture with the Dodgers, and that's that's why it's
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Speaker 2: meant so much to me to able to stay here.
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Speaker 2: Everybody buys in what we're trying to do, and it's
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Speaker 2: winning the game. It doesn't matter how it gets done
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Speaker 2: as long as you win the game. So you know,
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Speaker 2: your personal stats has no bearing on it as long
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Speaker 2: as you're you're doing the job that helps team win,
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Speaker 2: because there's certain things that don't show up in the
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Speaker 2: in the stat category. Or did you move a guy
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Speaker 2: over from second to third? Did you did you possibly
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Speaker 2: you know, take a little bit off in the bat
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Speaker 2: to try to get a job as a pitcher. Are
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Speaker 2: you kind of navigate an inning to limit your pitch
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Speaker 2: count on or shorten the bullpen or you know, just
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Speaker 2: little things like that, And that's kind of the culture
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Speaker 2: we've created, you know, with the Dodgers, and I'm feel
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Speaker 2: very blessed and honored to have been able to be
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Speaker 2: a part of that for as long as I have.
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Speaker 2: And it's just really fun. And when guys come in,
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Speaker 2: they immediately buy into it because they see what we're.
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Speaker 1: Doing over here.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what also helps cheap the clubhouse
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Speaker 2: how it is, because you're talking about a lot of
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Speaker 2: names that want to be playing every single day, but
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Speaker 2: they also understand we're trying to do anything we can
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Speaker 2: to have our best chance to win and get to October.
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Speaker 2: And you know, guys give up that. You know that
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Speaker 2: that kind of personal I want to be doing this
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Speaker 2: as long as we're winning, and so it's it's to me,
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Speaker 2: it's really cool to see it.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So you talk about a guy's buying in, and
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Speaker 5: I want to talk about a guy I saw at
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Speaker 5: a young age before anybody knew him, and I thought
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Speaker 5: he had a way of making the game look look easy.
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Speaker 5: Can you talk about how special Tayoscar Hernandez is. I
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Speaker 5: don't think people really know how good.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: You get to watch Tayo on a daily basis. Can
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Speaker 5: you just speak on how important he has been for
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Speaker 5: that organization? Clearly you watch what he did in the
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Speaker 5: playoffs and even right now with this early success, with
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Speaker 5: all the names that you guys have, it seems like
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Speaker 5: he just quietly shows up every night. Can you just
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Speaker 5: talk about how disgusting he really is?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has very consistent at bats. He has a
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Speaker 2: you know, a very simple idea of what he's trying
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Speaker 2: to do in about his box, and that allows him
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Speaker 2: to just do a ton of damage. You know, his
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Speaker 2: his swing works for what he's trying to do, and
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Speaker 2: he understands that he understands exactly what he wants to
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Speaker 2: do with every single ball is thrown and you see
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Speaker 2: it go out there. He continuously drives balls to the
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Speaker 2: right side of the field. He has, you know, a
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Speaker 2: lot of power that way, and that's what allows him
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Speaker 2: when the mistakes are made, to pull those balls and
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Speaker 2: get the big homers that he does. And he just
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Speaker 2: has consistent at bets night in and night out. And
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Speaker 2: when you can have a guy like that in the
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Speaker 2: middle of the older, it just it just lengthens the
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Speaker 2: line up so much. And you know, he's driving in
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Speaker 2: a ton of runs for us already, and you know,
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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, we know what his
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Speaker 2: numbers are going to be. Is He's just he's a
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Speaker 2: consistent player that you know, it's just another another guy
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Speaker 2: that the other team has to worry about, and yeah,
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Speaker 3: you got back. What was that like as an experience?
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Speaker 3: And I do want to get the show, hey factor
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Speaker 3: of how beloved he is there, how he's on every
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Speaker 3: billboard there. I was there a few months ago and
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Speaker 3: I knew I was going to see him. I saw
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Speaker 3: him much more than I thought. In sneaky spots like
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Speaker 3: you're in a store and there's something that's not even
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Speaker 3: all over the store, just like a little you know,
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Speaker 3: lip bomb here, a little pack of mints there. It
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Speaker 3: was just everywhere, right, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was subtle.
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to get your thoughts on that, and
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Speaker 3: did any of that obviously spill into this celebration that
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Speaker 3: now has been created on the base paths.
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Speaker 2: I think you already know the answer to that one. Yeah, yes, yes,
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Speaker 2: it did. You know, we we have our we have
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Speaker 2: our Hitters meetings every day and we kind of go
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Speaker 2: over a bunch of stuff and uh, you know, uh Cole,
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Speaker 2: the guy who puts together powerpoints for our Hitters meeting seat,
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Speaker 2: he kind of snuck in one of his commercials and uh,
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Speaker 2: I think the brand was the court for the court de.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you say it, but.
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Speaker 2: You know he's he's swinging the thing across his face
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Speaker 2: and gives a little wink at the end. And so
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Speaker 2: we all had a great, a great laugh at that one,
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Speaker 2: and so we just took it out onto the get.
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Speaker 2: You know, that night is when he hit the walk
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Speaker 2: off Homer, So we just kind of, you know, carried
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Speaker 2: it on and.
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Speaker 1: That's usually how those touches of celebrations start.
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Speaker 2: It's just a little moment that everyone has a laugh
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Speaker 2: at and you know, you just kind of make fun
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Speaker 2: of it and then you realize, hey, this is kind
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Speaker 2: of kind of a good thing to do, and you
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Speaker 2: just roll with it. And so that's how those celebrations starts.
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Speaker 2: But as far as the Tokyo here, it was unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: It was really cool once in a lifetime tri for me,
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Speaker 2: especially when you're talking about going there with with Show
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Speaker 2: and and y Ocean Rokie.
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Speaker 1: It was just the.
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Speaker 2: Seeing all of those guys everywhere. The way that they
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Speaker 2: were was wild. It was like traveling with the Beatles
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Speaker 2: or the Rolling Stones or something. It was, you know,
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Speaker 2: just crazy them of people that were everywhere that we went.
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Speaker 1: It was really really cool. I had a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: I was also ready to come home, but.
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Speaker 2: That's because you know, we did the Crea trip last
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Speaker 2: year and it's just it's just a lot to start
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Speaker 2: your season to make a trip like that. But it
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Speaker 2: was also I'm really glad that we got a chance
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Speaker 2: to do it.
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Speaker 1: It was really fun.
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Speaker 4: How has Rokie received Because Rokie was just there like
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Speaker 4: three four months ago, and I get a yell. Moto
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Speaker 4: and Otani have done bigger things now because they've been
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Speaker 4: in the big leagues for longer. But how has Rokie
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Speaker 4: received during that time?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it receives awesome.
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Speaker 2: You know, they they love him and uh uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: he's going to be an unbelievable picture for us. And
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Speaker 2: so just to see him get that reception from from
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Speaker 2: his you know, his own country, it's it's always really cool.
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Speaker 1: It's really special to go to see that.
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Speaker 2: And you know, he obviously show gets the biggest reception,
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Speaker 2: but you know, those two guys weren't far behind.
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Speaker 4: All right, So now we got to go to some
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Speaker 4: of your coaches. All right, one of your biggest coaches
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Speaker 4: actually works on this show. And Aj is probably one
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Speaker 4: of the cheaper people that has sixty to seventy maybe
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Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars of big lucrative deals. But
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Speaker 4: he's going to expect some type of gifts because he
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Speaker 4: thinks that you got three hits because of him. How
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Speaker 4: much credit do you or don't you give to Aj
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Speaker 4: Prazinski for the conversation you guys had before the game, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, because because it's a J I'm gonna give him
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Speaker 1: absolutely zero credit.
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Speaker 4: Good.
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Speaker 1: Good.
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Speaker 2: But then you know he he you know, he comes
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Speaker 2: in the locker room when he's chatting it up and
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Speaker 2: it's always good to see AJ. And yeah, he just
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Speaker 2: makes it seem like it's no big deal. You know,
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Speaker 2: you know, you're not facing anyone that's that's you know,
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Speaker 2: handled you in the past.
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Speaker 1: It's not big deal. He's just gonna hang you a curveball,
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Speaker 1: just you know, stay back on it, put in play.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's that simple, all right. Yeah, So let me
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Speaker 2: just go out there and do that for you. No
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Speaker 2: big deal, all right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's that's kind of what I want to get.
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Speaker 4: I want you to hear it from AJ's point of
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Speaker 4: view so that we're not taking it out of context,
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Speaker 4: because I think he thinks the game is easy now
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Speaker 4: that he doesn't play anymore. But here, here's here's how
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Speaker 4: here's what he said. How a conversation went down.
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Speaker 6: I was in Philadelphia this weekend. I as a Fox analyst.
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Speaker 6: We get to go in the clubhouses and Max was
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Speaker 6: in there and I was talking to him and he's like, oh,
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm kind of struggling.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're like three for twenty after year
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Speaker 1: with the numbers or whatever.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, but if this was in June, you know,
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Speaker 6: nobody would.
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Speaker 1: Cary's like, that's a good point.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, Max, you've gotten too many hits.
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Speaker 1: You're too good to let this go.
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Speaker 6: And he's like, you're right, you're right. I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 6: I got Nola, and you know he's gonna flip you
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Speaker 6: some curveballs. Just just get out front and you know,
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Speaker 6: clip it out front and hit one down the right
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Speaker 6: field line and then you go from there. And he's like,
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Speaker 6: you know, da, da no, D I don't know. We'll see,
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Speaker 6: we'll see, we'll see. I don't want to swing at
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Speaker 6: the curveball. Mic, well, at some point you're gonna have
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Speaker 6: to swing at one. He's just kind of like, I
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Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know. But it all started because
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Speaker 6: I wanted to see his torpedo bow, which he had
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Speaker 6: thrown in the garbage because he said had no hits
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Speaker 6: in it.
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Speaker 1: So I'm like, just you.
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Speaker 6: Know, get your torpedo bat out of the garbage, flip
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Speaker 6: one down.
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Speaker 1: The right field line.
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Speaker 3: You'll get going.
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Speaker 6: Well, Max months he guess what he does, three for three.
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Speaker 6: I had no idea at the time. He was one
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Speaker 6: for twenty one off Nola with eleven punchies. I had
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Speaker 6: absolutely no idea because I hadn't read the notes yet. Instead,
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Speaker 6: I felt like an idiot. He went out went three
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Speaker 6: for three, So Max, you owe me something for those
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Speaker 6: three for three when you come on tomorrow, Murder.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I own anything for that, but
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Speaker 1: I'll get my thank you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He comes in just acting like it's a
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Speaker 2: guy that you know, I've hit a lot of balls
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Speaker 2: hard off of and they just had that any luck,
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Speaker 2: and no Nola's own me in the past. And you know,
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Speaker 2: like I said in the post game, he has the best,
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Speaker 2: if not one of the best curb balls in baseball,
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Speaker 2: and he loves to throw it to me, and then
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Speaker 2: you get so worried about it, and that's when he
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Speaker 2: front hips the sinker and you have no chance to
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Speaker 2: pull the trigger because we're so worried about the curveball.
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Speaker 2: It's just a very, very tough at bat for me.
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Speaker 2: He has a really good idea what he's doing on
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Speaker 2: the mound.
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Speaker 1: And this stuff's really good.
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Speaker 4: We just talked about right before you came on. You
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Speaker 4: might even been logging in when we talked about it.
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Speaker 4: Who has the best curveball in the game. Everyone used
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Speaker 4: to talk about Wayne Wright's curveball, and before Cam said
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Speaker 4: glass now has to have the best, like true twelve
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Speaker 4: six curveball. Would you put Nola's, even though it's different
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Speaker 4: than glass Now's, over over Tyler's or would you put
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Speaker 4: it maybe second place?
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Speaker 2: Glass has had a really good curveball, but you know
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Speaker 2: his is just straight down, and that's what makes it
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Speaker 2: so tough. He throws that four cement top of the
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Speaker 2: zone and then the curveball comes out of the exact
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Speaker 2: same plane and it's bouncing in front of the plate
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Speaker 2: and so you're you're swinging at it. And that's why you
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Speaker 2: see a lot of those swings on the balls that
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Speaker 2: aren't even close to the zone on Glasshouse curveball because
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Speaker 2: it comes out of the exact same plane as his fastball.
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Speaker 1: Nola's it's just completely.
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Speaker 2: Different because you know, like I said, glasses straight down,
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Speaker 2: whereas Nola's is from the at least from the left
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Speaker 2: handed side. It pops out past the shortstop, goes up,
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Speaker 2: comes all the way back in, and then goes down.
15:15
Speaker 2: So there's just so much there's just so much movement
15:17
Speaker 2: to it, so it's a it's a completely different shape,
15:21
Speaker 2: and so it's almost two different categories to me, uh,
15:24
Speaker 2: just because the shape of it. And you know some
15:27
Speaker 2: guys just have that have that curve ball, I mean Sales,
15:30
Speaker 2: another one that's like that, his his slider from the
15:32
Speaker 2: left side. It comes at you, goes up, comes out
15:35
Speaker 2: and still ends up in the other batter's box in
15:37
Speaker 2: the dirt, and so you just you don't know which
15:39
Speaker 2: one you need to swing at.
15:41
Speaker 4: Can they can the traject which is the pitching machine
15:44
Speaker 4: that has the video and everything for people who don't
15:46
Speaker 4: know it simulates the pitches. Can the project actually simulate
15:50
Speaker 4: those like one of a kind pitches, because like the
15:53
Speaker 4: Sale one, they'd have to move the whole traject system
15:55
Speaker 4: like behind you to like it. Or is it not
15:59
Speaker 4: do a good job actually doing the exact pitch?
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Speaker 1: So the traject is it's really unbelievable. You know, we
16:07
Speaker 1: have one.
16:07
Speaker 2: We use it all the time, and it's hard to describe,
16:13
Speaker 2: but maybe you'll understand what I'm trying to say that
16:16
Speaker 2: the pitch shape is almost identical, but the way it
16:19
Speaker 2: feels is nowhere close to what it actually is in game.
16:24
Speaker 2: And we always talk about Darbish's curveball or his slider,
16:29
Speaker 2: you know, whatever he wants to call it, it'll it'll
16:31
Speaker 2: match the shape identical to it. But it just feels
16:34
Speaker 2: way too hard versus when you face him in the game,
16:36
Speaker 2: it feels like it hits a brick wall.
16:38
Speaker 1: It has the parachute effect.
16:40
Speaker 2: It just slows down, you know, halfway through the air,
16:42
Speaker 2: and then it keeps slowing down, and it feels like
16:44
Speaker 2: it never gets to you, even though it's eighty three
16:46
Speaker 2: miles an hour. There's just no way a pitching machine
16:49
Speaker 2: can ever mimic that feeling of a baseball, and that
16:55
Speaker 2: it goes the same for some fastballs too. I mean,
16:58
Speaker 2: you'll know some fastballs just like they have that that
17:01
Speaker 2: that turbo attached to it, so you know, right before
17:04
Speaker 2: it gets the home plate, it almost feels like it
17:05
Speaker 2: speeds up on you.
17:06
Speaker 1: It's not just one speed the whole way there.
17:10
Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about whether since you're on the
17:11
Speaker 4: beautiful East coast. Cam lives on the East coast, he's
17:14
Speaker 4: a little softer, he lives down south. But you're Texas
17:18
Speaker 4: and La for the most part of your life. Do
17:21
Speaker 4: you do you give do you give any credence to
17:24
Speaker 4: the guys who have to like put on tons of layers,
17:28
Speaker 4: wrap up and all that God is like just their
17:31
Speaker 4: face or just their eyes or you of Azlean guy,
17:35
Speaker 4: How did guys deal with it?
17:36
Speaker 1: And how do you deal with it?
17:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was almost there last night having the hot
17:41
Speaker 2: you know, the the ninja mask on and everything.
17:43
Speaker 1: It was. It was pulled last night. You know.
17:46
Speaker 2: The guy, the guy that play in the East Coast,
17:47
Speaker 2: they you know, they're they're they're true grinders in my opinion,
17:50
Speaker 2: because you're talking about, you know, possible rain delay almost
17:53
Speaker 2: every single day, and it's it's cold as I'll get
17:56
Speaker 2: out in the early part of the season, and then
17:58
Speaker 2: it's hot and cumid in the middle part of the season,
18:00
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's tough to play on the
18:02
Speaker 2: East Coast, and you know when when you're out west
18:05
Speaker 2: for your entire career, those East Coast trips get get
18:07
Speaker 2: real tough, and you see it happen real fast with
18:10
Speaker 2: guys that come over to us when you know, you
18:11
Speaker 2: have that East Coast day game where you're waking up
18:13
Speaker 2: at what's essentially five o'clock in the morning la time.
18:16
Speaker 2: You got to get to that day game and then
18:17
Speaker 2: it's raining, and it's cold, and its windy. It's just
18:20
Speaker 2: not stuff that we're used to dealing with, and so
18:22
Speaker 2: it makes it a little challenging. But you know, it
18:24
Speaker 2: is baseball. You got to find a way to get
18:25
Speaker 2: through it. You can't the other team has to play
18:27
Speaker 2: in the exact same condition, so you can't really complain
18:29
Speaker 2: about it. It's yeah, I mean, guys have guys have
18:34
Speaker 2: tons of different ways of doing it.
18:35
Speaker 1: But vasiline trick.
18:36
Speaker 2: I've always liked that, you know, from when I played
18:39
Speaker 2: in Oakland, Marthas Simeon used to tell me about that.
18:41
Speaker 2: You just you know, rub basting all over you kind
18:43
Speaker 2: of pose it the poor little to see you don't
18:44
Speaker 2: feel the wind, and that one, that one tends to
18:47
Speaker 2: help out a lot, just just you know, rubs and
18:49
Speaker 2: vasselaining all over the place.
18:51
Speaker 3: Hey, one more for you at max. Are you surprised
18:54
Speaker 3: that some of the newer ballparks in the Midwest and
18:57
Speaker 3: on the East Coast didn't end up getting retractable roofs.
19:00
Speaker 3: I know there's not infinite money on the planet, but
19:04
Speaker 3: I mean even for recruiting purposes like Roki for example,
19:08
Speaker 3: they asked, could I sena of the Mets, you know,
19:11
Speaker 3: either why he didn't go there or why they didn't
19:12
Speaker 3: have a better chance. And he joke, but he was like,
19:15
Speaker 3: we need a roof. But I'm like, seriously, I mean,
19:18
Speaker 3: if money's close enough, and you're coming from Japan where
19:21
Speaker 3: I think they all have domes, right or maybe retractable.
19:24
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure that
19:26
Speaker 3: they have controlled environment out there, like tough selling point
19:30
Speaker 3: when you're in a lot of these places for a
19:32
Speaker 3: month or two. Winter gets later now and it's freaking
19:36
Speaker 3: cold for the first month or two of the season.
19:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said, the money issue is always
19:42
Speaker 2: going to be there for me, though, I don't understand
19:46
Speaker 2: why you wouldn't do it, because that opens up so
19:49
Speaker 2: many more opportunities for you to do stuff concerts and
19:53
Speaker 2: you know, you can coast basketball games or you know,
19:56
Speaker 2: boxing matches or UFC fights in the winter time when
19:59
Speaker 2: it's really terrible weather, well it's not terrible inside, and
20:02
Speaker 2: so it just it opens up the opportunity of hosting
20:04
Speaker 2: so many more events. And that allowed people to continue
20:06
Speaker 2: to the residue stream into the stadium. And you know,
20:10
Speaker 2: that's the one thing I haven't understood is when you
20:11
Speaker 2: build a new stadium, you think you'd want to keep
20:14
Speaker 2: as many avenues as possible to you know, keep chance
20:17
Speaker 2: coming into the stadium at all times of the year,
20:20
Speaker 2: you know. But I'm also not a huge business person.
20:23
Speaker 2: I don't fully understand, uh, you know, the economics behind
20:27
Speaker 2: all of that. That's just me having a look on
20:29
Speaker 2: the outside.
20:30
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm with you. Well, Max, good catching up. We'll
20:33
Speaker 3: tell aj whatever you want us to tell him. But
20:35
Speaker 3: for the most part, he hasn't owe you crap. Okay,
20:38
Speaker 3: we're gonna say Max doesn't know you anything. We know
20:41
Speaker 3: that Nol throws crdits. Thank you very much as that.
20:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that answer. I like that, and we'll see.
20:46
Speaker 1: We'll see where he comes back with that one.
20:48
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, sounds good. Good luck the rest of this series.
20:51
Speaker 3: Stay warm. We'll catch you in a few weeks.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, sounds good, guys,