Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Jermaine Johnson Talks Running For Governor Of South Carolina, Affordability, Education + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day a week ago up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Morning.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Everybody's d j n V.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Just hilarious.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club along the
- 0:12Speaker 3: Roses here as well. We got a special guest in
- 0:14Speaker 3: the building. He's running for governor of South Carolina. Ladies
- 0:18Speaker 3: and gentlemen, Jamaine Johnson.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Welcome brother. What's going on? Man? Appreciate you all for
- 0:22Speaker 2: having me this moment.
- 0:22Speaker 1: How do you feel?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Uh? I feeling good this morning? Man, it feels real good.
- 0:28Speaker 4: You know, we got the opportunity to do some history
- 0:29Speaker 4: making this South Carolina COmON style.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Stead Man, more you be in more, you can be
- 0:33Speaker 2: in the said he speaks Spanish.
- 0:38Speaker 1: He's Dominican, but don't never want to claim it. Just
- 0:41Speaker 1: break it out whenever you.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Want to know. He's flew in his Spanish.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Test him. Yeahs not be.
- 0:49Speaker 2: I heard that your favorite Christmas?
- 0:54Speaker 1: Why do you want to run for governors South Carolina?
- 0:56Speaker 1: What beautiful stadium?
- 0:57Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 0:57Speaker 4: Well, well, uh, South Carolina deserves a change. It's time
- 1:02Speaker 4: for a new beginning for South Carolina. We've seen some
- 1:04Speaker 4: crazy stuff happening in the state. We know South Carolina
- 1:07Speaker 4: has over six hundred unsolved murders, just since twenty twenty alone,
- 1:11Speaker 4: we have the highest percentage of bridges and district pay
- 1:13Speaker 4: in the entire country. Our roads are the top two
- 1:16Speaker 4: worst than the entire country and most dangerous in the
- 1:18Speaker 4: entire country. But yet we have leaders in South Carolina
- 1:21Speaker 4: that want to look at other states and look at
- 1:22Speaker 4: other countries and talk trash about them, when really South
- 1:25Speaker 4: Carolina needs all the assistants that they can get right
- 1:27Speaker 4: about now. And we have a governor that decided to
- 1:29Speaker 4: send our National guardsmen to Washington, DC because Donald Trump
- 1:32Speaker 4: told them to do. So, you know, it's time for
- 1:34Speaker 4: somebody who really wants to just focus on the issues
- 1:36Speaker 4: that are happened to every day South Carolinians.
- 1:38Speaker 3: I mean, you know talk about pause overachieve. I mean,
- 1:41Speaker 3: how do you have the time? I mean you talk
- 1:43Speaker 3: about you have a pilot license, your motorcycles, member of
- 1:47Speaker 3: five Beta Sigma, your professor, your business school and a
- 1:51Speaker 3: business school, bought a benedict College which is a HBCU.
- 1:54Speaker 1: There's so many things that you do. So first, black
- 1:56Speaker 1: state representative, the represented district.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Absolutely fluid in Spanish.
- 2:00Speaker 1: When do you have the time?
- 2:01Speaker 5: Why do you forget the University of Delaware?
- 2:03Speaker 1: I haven't.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I didn't want to say that one. The University of
- 2:07Speaker 3: Delaware is Biden Award. Yes, we don't come on talking
- 2:11Speaker 3: about but you're doing so much, Wendy, you have the time.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Brother.
- 2:14Speaker 4: Man, listen, I'm blessed with a beautiful wife. Man who's
- 2:17Speaker 4: sitting in here in the studio with me right now,
- 2:24Speaker 4: a black woman. My wife, she's you know, very successful
- 2:29Speaker 4: in her own right. She's a pharmacists. Well so she's
- 2:30Speaker 4: a doctor, so I'm a doctor business administration. I've just
- 2:35Speaker 4: been a blessed individual to have the support of my
- 2:37Speaker 4: family to allow me to do the things that I
- 2:38Speaker 4: need to do. She's not not a selfish individual, so
- 2:41Speaker 4: she just supports me when I have to go out
- 2:43Speaker 4: here in the community and just make the changes I
- 2:44Speaker 4: need to make.
- 2:45Speaker 5: Did you guys meet at Benedicte.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Now, so we went to College of Charleston. Shout out
- 2:48Speaker 2: to College of Charleston. Yeah.
- 2:50Speaker 4: So I played basketball the College of Charleston. Uh, same,
- 2:53Speaker 4: the same time that Stephen Curry was at Davidson. And
- 2:55Speaker 4: let Steph know right now that we beat them. That's
- 2:57Speaker 4: why he ended up going to the NBA that year.
- 3:00Speaker 4: We put them out the tournament. You know, and I
- 3:01Speaker 4: was part of that team down in a college of Charleston.
- 3:04Speaker 4: But that's where we met at UH and we've been
- 3:05Speaker 4: together ever since.
- 3:07Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you are the second Democrat to
- 3:10Speaker 5: launch a campaign for governor. Talk to us about just
- 3:15Speaker 5: the feats and the things that are about to be
- 3:17Speaker 5: ahead of you, Like, what are you nervous about, what
- 3:19Speaker 5: are you excited about about the m history.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Well, I'm not really nervous about anything. The people all
- 3:24Speaker 4: across South Carolina they want to see something different. They've
- 3:27Speaker 4: been excited ever since I decided to announce my run
- 3:29Speaker 4: for governor because they know I've been the one who's
- 3:31Speaker 4: been fighting on the behalf for years now. I think
- 3:34Speaker 4: most of y'all probably saw that d I speech that
- 3:36Speaker 4: I did that has been saying by over about seven
- 3:38Speaker 4: million people at this point. People all across this country
- 3:41Speaker 4: decided to reach out to me and say, Jermaine, and
- 3:42Speaker 4: we would love for you to run for higher office,
- 3:45Speaker 4: to do something. So the people South Carolina just ready
- 3:47Speaker 4: for something different. I will be the second black nominee
- 3:51Speaker 4: in the history of South Carolina. That is a that's
- 3:54Speaker 4: a big deal right now. And even if you know
- 3:56Speaker 4: by even if I don't win, some young boy or
- 4:00Speaker 4: some young girl will look at me and say, man,
- 4:02Speaker 4: I can now be that guy I could, Like, it's
- 4:04Speaker 4: possible I can grow up to be him when I
- 4:06Speaker 4: you know, when I get up there. So you know,
- 4:07Speaker 4: I went to seven different high schools. I had a
- 4:09Speaker 4: you know, I had a point a GPA my freshman
- 4:11Speaker 4: year of high school. I was homeless most of my upbringing.
- 4:15Speaker 4: I lived in motels, yeah the point eight man, Yeah yeah,
- 4:18Speaker 4: I lived in motels. I lived in an Evergreen motel,
- 4:21Speaker 4: a travel lodge in and all these different places, and
- 4:24Speaker 4: slept on friends couches and things like that. But yet
- 4:26Speaker 4: I still was able to graduate, still was able to
- 4:28Speaker 4: go to college, still was able to get my doctors,
- 4:30Speaker 4: still was able to be a professional athlete.
- 4:32Speaker 2: You know, a whole bunch of stuff. So kids know
- 4:34Speaker 2: it's possible.
- 4:34Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the highways in South Carolina. Anybody
- 4:37Speaker 1: that's been to South Carolina, you just see how much
- 4:39Speaker 1: is growing, right, Like, I mean, traffic is crazy and
- 4:41Speaker 1: chalk and traffic is crazy in places like Mount's Corner.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Does the state have the profit proferit infrastructure to accommodate
- 4:47Speaker 1: the growing popular man?
- 4:48Speaker 2: Heck no, man, And I know you've seen it yourself.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Man, Listen, anybody who was driven between South Carolina and
- 4:54Speaker 4: North Carolina. You can literally see the line in the
- 4:57Speaker 4: road about how bad it is, Like you can feel
- 4:59Speaker 4: the that you could feel how bad it is. And
- 5:02Speaker 4: because people are dying every single day, this is why
- 5:04Speaker 4: our insurance is so high, Like car insurances continues to
- 5:07Speaker 4: go up, and it's partly because of how bad our
- 5:10Speaker 4: infrastructure is. And we're not truly addressing these issues. People
- 5:13Speaker 4: are dying every single day on these roads, man. And
- 5:16Speaker 4: until we start to take this thing serious, you know,
- 5:18Speaker 4: I don't know what.
- 5:18Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen.
- 5:20Speaker 3: I was going to ask, you know, you talk about
- 5:21Speaker 3: the murders, you talk about the roads. What's the first
- 5:23Speaker 3: thing you want to do when you get in office.
- 5:25Speaker 4: Well, the biggest thing I'm all about is mental health.
- 5:29Speaker 4: I traveled the state about a year and a half
- 5:31Speaker 4: ago with a bunch of former gang members Bloods and
- 5:33Speaker 4: Cribs and gds, and we went to different communities where
- 5:37Speaker 4: they felt disenfranchised, and we asked them, well, how could
- 5:39Speaker 4: we solve the issues in your communities? And these are
- 5:41Speaker 4: places that were not in my district. I went all
- 5:43Speaker 4: over the state and went about thirty different counties, and
- 5:45Speaker 4: every last county said mental health. Every last one said
- 5:50Speaker 4: mental health, mental health. Because of these kids are out here. Then,
- 5:52Speaker 4: you know, we have a bunch of people who are
- 5:54Speaker 4: running around with undiagnosed mental health concerns, and then they're
- 5:57Speaker 4: raising kids now also with undiagnosed mental health concerns. And
- 6:01Speaker 4: then we also have given them access to guns by
- 6:04Speaker 4: the constitution to carry and all those different types of things.
- 6:06Speaker 4: So it's caused so many problems. Well, I want to
- 6:08Speaker 4: make sure that police officers actually have the support in
- 6:11Speaker 4: terms of having a mental health provider, you know, on
- 6:14Speaker 4: the staff with them. I want to make sure that
- 6:15Speaker 4: the schools have mental health workers in every single district
- 6:19Speaker 4: in the state.
- 6:19Speaker 2: I want to make sure people have that work. Now.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Andrew Yang is also a support How did you and
- 6:24Speaker 3: Andrew Yang get up?
- 6:25Speaker 2: Man?
- 6:25Speaker 4: So in twenty nineteen, when I was looking at who
- 6:28Speaker 4: all going to support for President of the United States,
- 6:30Speaker 4: I was actually a Corey Booker supporter.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Shout out to Corey Booker. But what Corey.
- 6:34Speaker 4: Booker was talking about wasn't really in my opinion, talking
- 6:38Speaker 4: about solutions. And then I came across the agent God
- 6:41Speaker 4: talk about he wanted to give everybody a thousand dollars
- 6:42Speaker 4: a month, And when I thought about it, I said, Man,
- 6:45Speaker 4: a thousand dollars a month would have really changed my life.
- 6:48Speaker 4: It would have kept me out out of those hoods,
- 6:49Speaker 4: would have kept me out of living in those motels.
- 6:51Speaker 4: That would have really changed everything about me. And when
- 6:54Speaker 4: I met him, it was like he was talking about
- 6:56Speaker 4: AI and all these other things that literally we are
- 6:57Speaker 4: seeing every single day now. Everything he said he was
- 7:00Speaker 4: right about everything, and that's what led me to him,
- 7:03Speaker 4: and I said, Man, I'm gonna go ahead and help you.
- 7:05Speaker 4: And we've been friends ever since.
- 7:07Speaker 1: You talk a lot about economic empowerment. What's this specific
- 7:09Speaker 1: plan to bring like real investment, real jobs, you know,
- 7:12Speaker 1: real entrepreneurship into rural counties, you know in South Carolina.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that I've already done is
- 7:18Speaker 4: in my district, I created something the Lord Rich and
- 7:20Speaker 4: Tech Academy. And what that does is it teaches low
- 7:24Speaker 4: coding and no coding technologies to the people in the
- 7:26Speaker 4: rural community and allows them to start their own entrepreneur
- 7:31Speaker 4: businesses in those areas. So in East over South Carolina.
- 7:34Speaker 4: We have started at least forty different small businesses right
- 7:37Speaker 4: there in that rural area needs a majority of black
- 7:40Speaker 4: and brown people that started these different businesses down there.
- 7:43Speaker 4: I want to take that entire program across the state.
- 7:46Speaker 4: I also want to work on this my South Carolina
- 7:48Speaker 4: Resiliency Act. So what that's going to do is going
- 7:51Speaker 4: to mandate South Carolina to be able to produce or
- 7:53Speaker 4: manufacture at least twenty five percent of the resource that
- 7:56Speaker 4: we need in South Carolina. Right now, South Carolina only
- 7:59Speaker 4: produces eleven percent of the food that we can consume
- 8:01Speaker 4: every single year. Eleven percent is not enough, so we
- 8:04Speaker 4: have to import all of our food from other states,
- 8:06Speaker 4: from other countries. I want to say, listen, let's produce
- 8:08Speaker 4: our own stuff. What that's gonna do is that's going
- 8:10Speaker 4: to help out our rural communities as well as our farmers,
- 8:12Speaker 4: to put them back to work, allow them to expand
- 8:15Speaker 4: the farms, and say, listen, we're gonna put We're gonna
- 8:17Speaker 4: get our own produce from the people who are right
- 8:19Speaker 4: here in South Carolina.
- 8:20Speaker 1: When did you learn to start projecting your voice and
- 8:22Speaker 1: every time you talk, don't want to do push ups?
- 8:28Speaker 4: Listen, well, I actually I got a degree in communications.
- 8:33Speaker 2: But my thing was, it's always attle boy.
- 8:36Speaker 4: Yeah, they always say I was loud man. I've always
- 8:40Speaker 4: been a loud speaker. They've always confused me with saying, hey, man,
- 8:43Speaker 4: you talk a lout like now, I don't talk a lot.
- 8:45Speaker 4: I just talk loud, you know, And I want to
- 8:47Speaker 4: be heard. I need to be heard when I'm speaking
- 8:49Speaker 4: up for people.
- 8:49Speaker 3: So people always ask if you do become governor, what
- 8:52Speaker 3: we said, when you do become governor, how would be work?
- 8:55Speaker 1: How would you work with Donald Trump?
- 8:57Speaker 2: Oh?
- 8:57Speaker 4: Man, listen, man, you're gonna bring that man up up ahead,
- 8:59Speaker 4: man listen. So my thing is, and what I've told everybody,
- 9:02Speaker 4: I don't care who's in the white House. I don't
- 9:04Speaker 4: care if it's Republican. I don't care if it's a
- 9:06Speaker 4: Democrat in the White House. If it's not good for
- 9:08Speaker 4: South Carolina, I'm not supporting it. I'm truly South Carolina. First,
- 9:12Speaker 4: we have these crazy people who are running for office
- 9:14Speaker 4: to call themselves Trump conservatives. I was like, what the
- 9:17Speaker 4: hell is a Trump conservative?
- 9:18Speaker 2: Man?
- 9:18Speaker 4: Like, you know, you let one man define what a
- 9:20Speaker 4: conservative is. And that's the problem. So if Donald Trump
- 9:24Speaker 4: wants to do good for South Carolina. I will gladly
- 9:26Speaker 4: work with him. If he wants to do bad, I'll
- 9:27Speaker 4: gladly stand against them. And I've been an independent thinker.
- 9:30Speaker 4: I don't care you know what party you decide to
- 9:32Speaker 4: be with. If it's not good for the people of
- 9:33Speaker 4: South Carolina, I'm not supporting it.
- 9:35Speaker 1: What's your plan? The overhaul education? So students graduate in
- 9:39Speaker 1: South Carolina either career ready, college ready, our business ready.
- 9:43Speaker 1: You know, we lag behind national average.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Man forty third in the country.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad, man, and we haven't done anything about it.
- 9:52Speaker 4: So you know, places like Greenville are receiving more funds
- 9:55Speaker 4: than places like Denmark, right, so we have an issue
- 9:58Speaker 4: where we're not funding these schools adequately. So I want
- 10:02Speaker 4: to do a full on public education audit. What I
- 10:05Speaker 4: want to do is I want to compare the rule
- 10:06Speaker 4: schools that are well performing with the rural schools that
- 10:09Speaker 4: are poor performing, and the urban schools with the you know,
- 10:12Speaker 4: the urban schools that.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Are well performing with the urban schools that are poor performing.
- 10:16Speaker 4: I want to look at the administration and overhead and
- 10:19Speaker 4: to see if there's any waste for spending with the administration.
- 10:22Speaker 4: And I also want to look at teacher pay. I
- 10:24Speaker 4: want to look at all that and compare them all
- 10:25Speaker 4: across the entire state and create this after this entire audit,
- 10:28Speaker 4: I want to get all the information together and then
- 10:31Speaker 4: make best practices from there. So to make sure that
- 10:33Speaker 4: we have all the information we need to make the
- 10:35Speaker 4: best decision. Right now, we're not doing anything. We're just
- 10:38Speaker 4: looking at social issues. We're more concerned with banning books
- 10:41Speaker 4: in South Carolina. We are the number one state of
- 10:43Speaker 4: banned books. South Carolina is we want to look at
- 10:46Speaker 4: all the crazy stuff going on. Instead of actually investing,
- 10:49Speaker 4: we want to take away public school money and give
- 10:51Speaker 4: it the private damn schools.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Man.
- 10:53Speaker 4: I mean, that is a problem right there. And in
- 10:55Speaker 4: these private schools, if you want to send your kid
- 10:58Speaker 4: to this private school, they literally can say your kid
- 11:00Speaker 4: can't come to the private school, but my kid can come.
- 11:03Speaker 4: But your tax dollars is gonna pay for my kid
- 11:04Speaker 4: to go to the privat school that Joe kid can't
- 11:06Speaker 4: get to. And that's a problem in South Carolina. So
- 11:08Speaker 4: we have to truly look at public education to make
- 11:11Speaker 4: sure we're fixing and addressing these issues.
- 11:12Speaker 3: What's the one thing the governor is doing wrong the governor.
- 11:14Speaker 3: Right now, what's one thing that he's doing wrong? If
- 11:17Speaker 3: you could pick out all the things, one thing that really.
- 11:20Speaker 4: Kissing Donald Trump's But I mean, I mean, just to
- 11:23Speaker 4: be honest, he sent two hundred of our National guardsmen
- 11:26Speaker 4: to Washington, d C. And when he sent them up there,
- 11:29Speaker 4: what they're doing is they're literally on the side of
- 11:31Speaker 4: the road picking up trash in DC right now. Well,
- 11:34Speaker 4: if those two hundred National Guardsmen didn't have anything to do, well,
- 11:37Speaker 4: how come they're not in South Carolina helping us solve
- 11:39Speaker 4: those six hundred unsolved murders that I talked about, like
- 11:43Speaker 4: they could they could have easily been put to work
- 11:45Speaker 4: doing something better for the people of South Carolina. But no,
- 11:47Speaker 4: every time Donald Trump calls, he answers. And that's the
- 11:50Speaker 4: problem that we have. We need to be addressing these
- 11:52Speaker 4: issues that are in South Carolina.
- 11:54Speaker 1: But when the President calls, aren't you supposed answer them?
- 11:56Speaker 4: You were supposed to answer, But you don't got to
- 11:57Speaker 4: like do everything that this man say. Every time he
- 12:00Speaker 4: say send I mean, and he did it during hurricane season.
- 12:03Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, come on, man, Like we're sitting
- 12:06Speaker 4: in a situation where it could be seriously dangerous, putting
- 12:09Speaker 4: more South Carolinians at risk because you want to appease
- 12:12Speaker 4: one man.
- 12:12Speaker 2: That's the problem.
- 12:13Speaker 1: What would be the consequence saying no to him?
- 12:16Speaker 4: You're just not gonna be best friends with them anymore.
- 12:19Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm you can stop federal funding.
- 12:21Speaker 5: You can get your resources for like when there's like
- 12:23Speaker 5: emergencies in South Carolina, or even funding for like the
- 12:26Speaker 5: schools and the stuff that you're talking about right now.
- 12:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he could talk about he could talk
- 12:29Speaker 4: about all different types of federal funding issues, but we're
- 12:32Speaker 4: seeing federal funding cuts already, So I mean that doesn't
- 12:34Speaker 4: really matter. He's gonna cut us in ways if he
- 12:36Speaker 4: doesn't like us, you know, and he might threaten once
- 12:38Speaker 4: I become governor, he might threaten to cut funding in
- 12:41Speaker 4: it anyways, just because I'm a black Democrat. You know
- 12:44Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I D right, but I always listen
- 12:48Speaker 4: called me D. I definitely earned it, all right, So
- 12:50Speaker 4: I mean that's the type of person I am.
- 12:52Speaker 5: So you know, how do you make sure that, like
- 12:54Speaker 5: when you go in and do all the testing in
- 12:55Speaker 5: those schools and you you know, raise those numbers to
- 12:58Speaker 5: get the funding and stuff that the teachers are still
- 13:02Speaker 5: really connected to the students because I've been like I
- 13:04Speaker 5: went to an inner city school, and when we got
- 13:05Speaker 5: more better numbers, score numbers, test numbers, more money, the
- 13:09Speaker 5: teachers they brought in were so disconnected from us, Like
- 13:11Speaker 5: it changed the environment of the school and it was
- 13:13Speaker 5: like it caused more students to not come back to
- 13:16Speaker 5: the school. And I think that happens a lot, especially
- 13:18Speaker 5: in the inner city school So how do you like
- 13:20Speaker 5: do good in those schools? Will also make sure that
- 13:22Speaker 5: the teachers are still like invested in the students.
- 13:24Speaker 4: Right, Well, the thing is you have to make sure
- 13:26Speaker 4: that you are connected with the school. So one thing
- 13:29Speaker 4: that I've done, even as a state representative, I decided
- 13:31Speaker 4: to go and become a substitute teacher. So I wanted
- 13:34Speaker 4: to the public schools to go to. Yeah, it is,
- 13:41Speaker 4: I do a lot, but I wanted to go in
- 13:43Speaker 4: there because I wanted the teachers to to one know
- 13:45Speaker 4: that I cared. I wanted the kids to be able
- 13:48Speaker 4: to see me and say, man, like that's a state representative.
- 13:50Speaker 4: He's a politician, but yet he's still like he's one
- 13:53Speaker 4: of us, and I can be him when I can
- 13:55Speaker 4: see him and I can touch him, you know. So
- 13:58Speaker 4: I went in there to really assess the situation. And
- 14:00Speaker 4: I think you lead by example. And I don't plan
- 14:03Speaker 4: to stop any of the work that I'm doing once
- 14:05Speaker 4: I become governor. I plan to continue on going into
- 14:07Speaker 4: the schools. I plan to continue on going in there
- 14:09Speaker 4: and advocating for them. I even fod a bill that
- 14:12Speaker 4: would mandate that the members of the General Assembly would
- 14:14Speaker 4: have to do at least five days a year of
- 14:16Speaker 4: volunteering or substitute teaching in the public schools because I
- 14:20Speaker 4: needed to see it.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Now, we always talk about trade schools, right I'm a
- 14:24Speaker 3: salute to Lincoln Tech. I'm an ambassador for Lincoln Tech.
- 14:26Speaker 3: I love trade schools, but you really love trade schools.
- 14:29Speaker 3: Explain why and why do you think trade schools are
- 14:30Speaker 3: so necessary?
- 14:31Speaker 4: Well, I mean, listen, we put too much emphasis on
- 14:34Speaker 4: this for your institutions. I think if you're not an athlete,
- 14:37Speaker 4: or you're not going to be a lawyer or a doctor,
- 14:39Speaker 4: you should be looking at trade schools. And we have
- 14:43Speaker 4: allowed people to really just keep overselling these for year
- 14:47Speaker 4: institutions all the time, and trade schools. We have a
- 14:50Speaker 4: lack of workers right now, We have a lack of electricians.
- 14:53Speaker 4: We have a lack of plumbers, we have a lack
- 14:55Speaker 4: of engineers. You know, my son right now is going
- 14:58Speaker 4: to Menlan's Technical College to get his megatronics degree right now.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Because Scott Motors needs some more workers that's coming to
- 15:05Speaker 4: South Carolina. Michelin said about sixty five percent of their
- 15:08Speaker 4: workforce for retiring over the next few years. We have
- 15:10Speaker 4: a lack of these industrial workers, and I think we
- 15:13Speaker 4: need to put the embassis. I mean, people can come
- 15:14Speaker 4: out of these schools, these trade schools making eighty five
- 15:16Speaker 4: thousand dollars after two years, I mean they'll be nineteen
- 15:20Speaker 4: years old. Man, Like you got to think about that,
- 15:23Speaker 4: you know, helping these kids to learn how to invest
- 15:25Speaker 4: in their futures.
- 15:25Speaker 1: I got cousins Man and Monks Corner who were doing HVAC.
- 15:29Speaker 1: As soon as they got our high school. They an
- 15:32Speaker 1: mister mill in twenty five years.
- 15:34Speaker 2: That's right, That's right.
- 15:35Speaker 1: And I love the conversations you're having because you're talking
- 15:38Speaker 1: about economic empowerment, you're talking about mental health, you know
- 15:42Speaker 1: something that you're talking about trade schools. Like all of
- 15:45Speaker 1: that stuff to me is just about affordability and how
- 15:48Speaker 1: to keep people safe. Why is that so hard for politicians?
- 15:52Speaker 1: It's life aining complicated. People just want some more money
- 15:54Speaker 1: in their pocket and they want to feel safe.
- 15:56Speaker 4: Because they allow on Fox News and ceing them to
- 15:58Speaker 4: be the driving talking. And I think that's the problem.
- 16:02Speaker 4: We do the same thing in South Carolina. The Republicans
- 16:05Speaker 4: they quote Fox News, Democrats quote Seeing n you know,
- 16:08Speaker 4: And I think we need to get away from that.
- 16:09Speaker 4: I think we need to get back to addressing the issues.
- 16:11Speaker 4: I mean, I'm all about affordability. People are hungry, man Like,
- 16:14Speaker 4: people are starving out here. We don't even have a
- 16:17Speaker 4: minimum wage in South Carolina. Like people always say, let's
- 16:21Speaker 4: raise minimum wage. We don't have one.
- 16:23Speaker 2: We have to establish a minimum wage before we can
- 16:25Speaker 2: raise the Dame minimum wage, you know. So I mean
- 16:28Speaker 2: it's issues like that in minimum wage is seven twenty five.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Who was living off a seven twenty five? You know?
- 16:33Speaker 4: I mean, we have these issues all over the place,
- 16:35Speaker 4: and I don't know why people want to hit on
- 16:37Speaker 4: these big social issues and talk about abortion every single
- 16:40Speaker 4: year and talk about you know, guns every single year.
- 16:44Speaker 4: I mean, man, people just people want the same thing.
- 16:46Speaker 4: They want food, they want safety, they want good schools,
- 16:49Speaker 4: they want good roads, they want good jobs.
- 16:52Speaker 1: It's South Carolina, a good reflection of politics everywhere. And
- 16:56Speaker 1: the reason I asked that because South Carolina is the
- 16:58Speaker 1: only place where you might be Carrie Sellers in the morning,
- 17:01Speaker 1: but be with you know, Lindsey Graham in the afternoon.
- 17:04Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You might be with Tim
- 17:06Speaker 1: Scott on a Tuesday, Jim clyve Burn on a Wednesday.
- 17:08Speaker 2: You might be with a.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Nazy Mace on a Thursday, and then you know some
- 17:11Speaker 1: other Jamie Irrison on a Friday. Like it's such a
- 17:14Speaker 1: unique place. Is there any place else else like that?
- 17:17Speaker 4: I haven't seen any other place like like South Carolina. Man,
- 17:19Speaker 4: South Carolina. We we get together a lot, like Republicans
- 17:23Speaker 4: and Democrats get together a lot. Now that the issue
- 17:25Speaker 4: that I see is that in behind closed doors it
- 17:28Speaker 4: is all listen, it's all a show, y'all.
- 17:30Speaker 2: It is all.
- 17:31Speaker 4: It is all a show, a TV show, reality TV show.
- 17:34Speaker 4: Because I've had, you know, some of these Republicans come
- 17:37Speaker 4: with me in the back room and say, Jermaine, I
- 17:38Speaker 4: agree with everything you just said.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Man, Like I'm with you, I'm with.
- 17:41Speaker 4: You, I'm with you, and then go out there and
- 17:43Speaker 4: say the complete opposite thing. And did I be like, bro, Like,
- 17:45Speaker 4: don't come to the back room and apologize to me,
- 17:47Speaker 4: you know, after you just said this other stuff back here.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Man.
- 17:50Speaker 4: But they might primary me if I if I vote
- 17:52Speaker 4: this way or if I do that. But you know,
- 17:53Speaker 4: I'm gonna help you on the back end, or I'm
- 17:55Speaker 4: gonna do this. I'm like, man, y'all are some real
- 17:57Speaker 4: live cowards, Like you're a coward. And I say this
- 17:59Speaker 4: all the time. I say, listen, let's tell the truth,
- 18:02Speaker 4: let's talk about it. Let's be honest about this stuff,
- 18:04Speaker 4: you know. And there's just a bunch of cowards in there, man,
- 18:06Speaker 4: And I think that's the problem.
- 18:07Speaker 1: And that's why I liked your d I speech and
- 18:09Speaker 1: everybody should go watch it if they haven't. But you
- 18:11Speaker 1: directly confronted colleagues as you just kind of put it.
- 18:14Speaker 1: But you said, friends are friends behind the scenes, would
- 18:17Speaker 1: vote for racism when it matters.
- 18:19Speaker 2: That's right, if you want to speak that. Yeah, man,
- 18:22Speaker 2: So I was so mad when I had to give
- 18:25Speaker 2: that speech.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Man.
- 18:25Speaker 2: I didn't play none of that stuff. Man.
- 18:26Speaker 4: I was sitting on my desk and I was ready
- 18:28Speaker 4: to go honestly, it was like a long day. But
- 18:30Speaker 4: there was an amendment that went up there that said
- 18:33Speaker 4: no public dollars would go to white supremacy programs. And
- 18:36Speaker 4: now I'm thinking, these people up in here are my friends, right,
- 18:38Speaker 4: So I'm thinking they're gonna say something about this amendment.
- 18:41Speaker 4: They're either going to pass it or they're gonna say
- 18:43Speaker 4: something and then table it. Man, nobody said anything. Nobody
- 18:46Speaker 4: said anything. One of the Republicans just walked by the
- 18:49Speaker 4: Speaker of the House and just put his hand up
- 18:51Speaker 4: like this said move the table.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Didn't say nothing. Bro. I was so mad, and it
- 18:55Speaker 2: said white supremacist, white supremacist.
- 18:57Speaker 4: And I was like, I said, yo, come on man.
- 18:59Speaker 4: So I jumped up so fast and ran to the front,
- 19:01Speaker 4: and the ladies behind the desk were trying to calm
- 19:04Speaker 4: me down. So if you if you're seeing that in
- 19:06Speaker 4: that video clip, I have a cup of water up there,
- 19:08Speaker 4: it is because the ladies behind the desk gave me
- 19:09Speaker 4: a cuple of water trying to calm me down.
- 19:11Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I had it. So I
- 19:13Speaker 2: said what I had to say. But what happened after that?
- 19:15Speaker 4: After I said what I said, I left out the
- 19:17Speaker 4: back of the steps of the State House and I
- 19:19Speaker 4: sat down.
- 19:20Speaker 2: I actually cried, Man, I cried because I was so hurt.
- 19:22Speaker 4: I was so hurt that these people that know my kids,
- 19:25Speaker 4: that know my family, I know their family. You know,
- 19:27Speaker 4: we've hung out together and this, and y'all have the
- 19:29Speaker 4: death not to even stand up on my behalf, like
- 19:31Speaker 4: not to say nothing, you know. But after that happened.
- 19:34Speaker 4: So what happened is as I was sitting outside, people
- 19:37Speaker 4: started coming out to the backsteps of the State House saying, Jermaine,
- 19:39Speaker 4: we won.
- 19:40Speaker 2: I said, what you mean?
- 19:41Speaker 4: We one it said, we pulled the whole proviso out
- 19:44Speaker 4: of the budget.
- 19:45Speaker 2: They got rid of the whole damn bill.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Good and because and one by one Republicans came up
- 19:50Speaker 4: to me as I was coming back to the state House.
- 19:51Speaker 4: They were like, Jermaine, we apologized, We're sorry, we did
- 19:54Speaker 4: this some poor tastes. You know, we shouldn't have did
- 19:56Speaker 4: it this way. But it shouldn't it ever got to
- 19:58Speaker 4: that point. They you have spoke up on the front
- 20:01Speaker 4: half and made it known to the people of South
- 20:03Speaker 4: Carolina that white supremacy has no place in South Carolina.
- 20:06Speaker 5: As a politician, because in your speech too, you also
- 20:08Speaker 5: said that they let you down every time when you
- 20:10Speaker 5: were talking about them voting right as a politician, Like
- 20:13Speaker 5: when you're disappointed like that, Like how hard is it
- 20:15Speaker 5: to like, next day get up and still like fight
- 20:17Speaker 5: in the fight.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:19Speaker 4: Man, it's difficult every day. It is difficult every single
- 20:22Speaker 4: day because you have to go on there and you
- 20:24Speaker 4: got to put yesterday behind you. But the hard part
- 20:27Speaker 4: about it is knowing that every time you push red
- 20:30Speaker 4: or green, somebody's going to die based on your vote.
- 20:33Speaker 4: That's the hardest part about it.
- 20:34Speaker 2: And I truly don't believe that you could be a
- 20:36Speaker 2: politician for thirty forty years.
- 20:38Speaker 4: And to truly care about people. I don't think you
- 20:40Speaker 4: can because it weighs too much in your conscious if
- 20:43Speaker 4: you truly care about people. I mean, it kills me
- 20:45Speaker 4: every single day knowing how people across South Carolina are
- 20:47Speaker 4: suffering because of what we're doing up there. You know,
- 20:50Speaker 4: even when I was on the riscient kind of Recreage Commission,
- 20:52Speaker 4: I didn't feel right about writing policy without actually talking
- 20:55Speaker 4: to the people. So I drove around all the parks
- 20:58Speaker 4: and met all the employees and met everybody because I
- 21:00Speaker 4: wanted them. I wanted to know what they were doing
- 21:02Speaker 4: every single day. I didn't feel good about making laws
- 21:04Speaker 4: and making things about them, and I had never even
- 21:06Speaker 4: seen what the people on the ground are doing.
- 21:08Speaker 2: It's tough.
- 21:10Speaker 4: It's tough, and honestly, I don't have an I don't
- 21:12Speaker 4: have an answer to it, man, because it's it's so
- 21:14Speaker 4: hard dealing with these individuals every single day, knowing that
- 21:17Speaker 4: some of them just don't give a damn about you.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Have any of the other legislators in South South Carolina
- 21:23Speaker 1: like changed the way they approach you since you made
- 21:26Speaker 1: that speech.
- 21:27Speaker 4: Yeah, man, listen, they a lot of them got to
- 21:30Speaker 4: started getting afraid. They get afraid. I've had some, I've
- 21:34Speaker 4: had some uh doors come to Jesus meetings man, six seven.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Seven black men. That's gotta be a part of your
- 21:45Speaker 1: campaign in somewhere.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I got I got my daughter working on something, man,
- 21:49Speaker 4: I got my daughter sixty seven jont Man.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Yeah, But who do.
- 21:53Speaker 1: You just to piggyback off of Lauren's question, who do
- 21:56Speaker 1: you go to in those vulnerable moments? I mean, I
- 21:57Speaker 1: know you have a beautiful wife, you know, but like.
- 22:00Speaker 5: Is it therapy?
- 22:01Speaker 1: Is your pastor is it? You know?
- 22:03Speaker 2: All all of those you got a lot of weights.
- 22:05Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I go to I go to my I
- 22:07Speaker 4: go to my wife a lot. I lay a lot
- 22:09Speaker 4: on her shoulders, a lot of the things that I
- 22:11Speaker 4: deal with. And then I also go to my pastor.
- 22:12Speaker 4: I've called my pastor. I don't I don't know how
- 22:15Speaker 4: many times I've called him crying, uh and talking about
- 22:17Speaker 4: the issues, talking about the concerns of the people. I mean,
- 22:20Speaker 4: I had one person, man who didn't want me to
- 22:23Speaker 4: come past this is right when COVID had started, and
- 22:25Speaker 4: he didn't want me to come pass out masks down
- 22:27Speaker 4: in his church because he was more interested in his
- 22:31Speaker 4: political position, uh than me actually saving lives, you know.
- 22:35Speaker 4: And I was so I was so hurt by that man.
- 22:37Speaker 4: And I've talked about those those type of situations. You know,
- 22:42Speaker 4: I have a therapist that I go to. Listen, and
- 22:44Speaker 4: let me make this PSA. It is black, folks. It
- 22:47Speaker 4: is okay to have Jesus and a therapist. You know,
- 22:50Speaker 4: because we always talk about praying things away. Listen, I
- 22:53Speaker 4: pray and I go to therapy, and I need the
- 22:56Speaker 4: assistance that I can to help me deal with some
- 22:58Speaker 4: of these issues and concerns that the people having.
- 23:01Speaker 2: But it's heavy. It really is.
- 23:02Speaker 1: What's what's the identity you want South Carolina to have
- 23:05Speaker 1: under your leadership? Because you know, people will say it's
- 23:08Speaker 1: like a lot of old South politics that still shape
- 23:12Speaker 1: the state today. What's it gonna look like under you?
- 23:14Speaker 2: Yeah, No d C and s C. I say that
- 23:16Speaker 2: all the time. No d C and s C.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Right now, we are too relyant upon Washington d C
- 23:22Speaker 4: and federal policies. I don't want the Washington d C
- 23:26Speaker 4: to dictate what we do in South Carolina. I want
- 23:29Speaker 4: to make sure that we are just self sufficient and
- 23:32Speaker 4: that we are addressing the needs of the people of
- 23:34Speaker 4: South Carolina. No matter if it's red or blue, whatever's
- 23:37Speaker 4: going on, we need address the issues of South Carolina.
- 23:40Speaker 2: So that's gonna be our main thing. No d C
- 23:42Speaker 2: in s C.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
- 23:46Speaker 3: I gotta ask, is it true that you are so
- 23:48Speaker 3: poor you cooked off a frozy.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Hot dog and a candle?
- 23:51Speaker 2: Is that true?
- 23:52Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 23:52Speaker 2: That's true, man, that's true.
- 23:55Speaker 4: Bro, listen, and I don't I do not recommend it, man,
- 23:58Speaker 4: I do not recommend it.
- 23:59Speaker 2: But it was. It tasted like burnt dog and wax. Man.
- 24:03Speaker 4: It was terrible. But yeah, so you know, no pot Listen,
- 24:07Speaker 4: there was no electricity or nothing. Oh okay say that.
- 24:09Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, there was no electricity. So because there
- 24:12Speaker 4: was no electricity, bro, it's like I had to get
- 24:14Speaker 4: like a you know, it was like the you know,
- 24:16Speaker 4: after the electricity go up, like the refrigerator is still
- 24:18Speaker 4: kind of cold. So I had to get one of
- 24:20Speaker 4: the hot dogs and got one of the hot dogs
- 24:22Speaker 4: and lit the candle, man, and put it on top
- 24:25Speaker 4: of the candle, and the.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Outside was burned, but the inside was frozen. Man, I
- 24:29Speaker 2: think it was terrible. Man, I don't recommend.
- 24:31Speaker 1: I would hate to see you hungry.
- 24:32Speaker 2: Oh but thank god I have some people that looked
- 24:36Speaker 2: out for me too. Man. You know, my childhood wasn't
- 24:39Speaker 2: all bad. Man.
- 24:40Speaker 4: You know, I had people that looked out for me
- 24:41Speaker 4: and gave me opportunities and things. So I'm a blessed man, honestly.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Man.
- 24:45Speaker 1: And how do you fit into this little last car?
- 24:47Speaker 2: Man?
- 24:51Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy seven C three Man, ain't no way fitted?
- 24:57Speaker 4: So again, you got it. You gotta like put the
- 24:59Speaker 4: sea all the way. It's a customed seat that I'm
- 25:01Speaker 4: putting that thing.
- 25:02Speaker 2: And and then I bro.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Yeah, so you ain't got no back seat.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Basically there ain't now there's no vaccinating in the three.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Yeah you driving? I want restoring it now. I'm driven
- 25:11Speaker 2: that thing like a year and.
- 25:12Speaker 3: A half because the kid he can't get under the day, Like.
- 25:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm restoring. I restored myself.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Really to now I don't believe all of it.
- 25:27Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahs I been resorting to myself. Man, I don't
- 25:31Speaker 4: did I don't rebuild the whole running already, I got
- 25:35Speaker 4: I got all new brakes on that thing.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna recommend somebody, did you?
- 25:39Speaker 2: But I do it myself.
- 25:45Speaker 1: D Governor Espel, what don't worry about it?
- 25:49Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 25:51Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I don't know Spanish. You're married in Mexican
- 25:59Speaker 1: a year going out? Speaking of which, are you worried
- 26:06Speaker 1: about ice? In?
- 26:07Speaker 5: Man?
- 26:08Speaker 2: Listen?
- 26:08Speaker 4: Ice the issue that I have. So I don't have
- 26:10Speaker 4: a problem with ice. I have a problem with what
- 26:12Speaker 4: they're doing and how they're implementing it right now. So
- 26:15Speaker 4: they are they're like literally they're just looking for anybody
- 26:17Speaker 4: who looks Spanish crazy, anybody who looks like that, or
- 26:20Speaker 4: anybody who has a name like that. That's who they're attacking.
- 26:24Speaker 4: Like that's who they're going at. And because that's the issue,
- 26:27Speaker 4: that is my problem. I mean, there's there's clearly a
- 26:30Speaker 4: better way that we can do, uh, you know, to
- 26:34Speaker 4: look at this, this immigration issue. I mean, there's way
- 26:37Speaker 4: we can do amnesty. I mean, we have ambassy for
- 26:39Speaker 4: everything else, Like you know, encourage people to come forward
- 26:41Speaker 4: to say, hey, listen, we're gonna do this, we're gonna
- 26:44Speaker 4: put you on probation for three years, we're gonna have
- 26:45Speaker 4: you pay tax, and we're gonna do this type of stuff.
- 26:47Speaker 4: And then you know, the people who don't come forward,
- 26:50Speaker 4: those are the people you go after, you know what
- 26:52Speaker 4: I mean, we do some stuff like that, but incentivized
- 26:54Speaker 4: people to come forward.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Man, we wouldn't you be scared to come forward at
- 26:57Speaker 1: a time like this?
- 26:58Speaker 4: Of course I would, because we ain't got an ambassy day.
- 27:00Speaker 4: I mean, I mean we don't. We don'tt We're not
- 27:02Speaker 4: in anybody to do it.
- 27:03Speaker 1: Like, why would I trust government? That's all if I was,
- 27:05Speaker 1: you know, even if that was to happen, why would
- 27:08Speaker 1: I trust government?
- 27:09Speaker 2: Listen? But why I mean why the black people trust government?
- 27:12Speaker 2: Right now?
- 27:12Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's a whole it's a whole
- 27:16Speaker 4: bunch of stuff, man, But we got to start somewhere.
- 27:18Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well he's running for governor of South Carolina.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Make sure you get out there and vote and support
- 27:22Speaker 3: my man to do How can they donate?
- 27:25Speaker 1: Man?
- 27:25Speaker 4: Listen, I need everybody to go to Johnson for SC
- 27:28Speaker 4: dot com, jail h N s O n f O
- 27:30Speaker 4: r SC dot com.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Uh.
- 27:32Speaker 2: We got to raise money, y'all.
- 27:34Speaker 4: You know, y'all know that as a black guy running
- 27:36Speaker 4: for governor of South Carolina, being the second I'll be
- 27:39Speaker 4: the second nominee in the history of South Carolina, we
- 27:42Speaker 4: need to raise as much money as possible. I mean, honestly,
- 27:44Speaker 4: y'all got over six million viewers right now right at
- 27:47Speaker 4: the Breverst Club, my bad eight there you go.
- 27:50Speaker 2: See know what I'm saying.
- 27:51Speaker 4: If all eight million people just gave a dollar, we
- 27:54Speaker 4: would have more than enough money to become governor South Carolina.
- 27:57Speaker 4: But listen what we we need five dollars, ten dollars,
- 27:59Speaker 4: twenty dollars. This is a real grassroots movement and we
- 28:01Speaker 4: want to go grassroots to grassroos funded.
- 28:04Speaker 1: And that's just for radio that don't count, like the
- 28:06Speaker 1: YouTube and the podcast.
- 28:07Speaker 2: We'll get it. We'll get them, we'll get it. We'll
- 28:08Speaker 2: get them all to give a dollar, man, get them,
- 28:10Speaker 2: get them all to give a dollar, or get them
- 28:11Speaker 2: to give twenty dollars.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the Breakfast Club.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Good morning, hold every day.
- 28:19Speaker 2: A week ago.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Wake your glass up, the Breakfast Club. Finish, y'all done,