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Best of Full Interview - Jeezy Talks 20 Year 'Thug Motivation 101' Anniversary Tour, Jay-Z, Nia Long, Soul Survivor +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Morning everybody is the j n V. Just hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. We got
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  Speaker 3: a special guest in the.
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  Speaker 1: Building, one of the best to ever do it.
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  Speaker 3: Celebrate in the twentieth anniversary of Thug Motivation One on one,
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, j Z.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm doing, What I'm doing, what's happening? Good morning?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. How you feeling, brother man, great man, better
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  Speaker 1: than most? You know what I mean? Right?
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  Speaker 3: I would need I would say I was talking to
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  Speaker 3: somebody yesterday, this is the other day, and he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm my way to JEZ House.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like for what He was like, I'm opening up
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  Speaker 2: for Jesus. I said, what you mean to open up?
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  Speaker 2: It's like j Z DJ as a hot used to
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  Speaker 2: do it to shut up.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, yes, DJ, Yeah, you know I used
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  Speaker 1: to DJ back in the day when I was you know,
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  Speaker 1: young in the hood. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 1: hustled up on the DJ set and uh, I was
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  Speaker 1: just going the hood, just DJ on people's borges. That
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  Speaker 1: was kind of my thing. But that's how I got
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  Speaker 1: into music, you know. What I'm saying. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a pastime. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the great Andre three thousands said, if you can't
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  Speaker 1: find a vibe, you gotta create it. So I just
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  Speaker 1: invite dope people over to my crib, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, curated. You know, we might do some some
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  Speaker 1: red wine and Popeye's Chicken, and I might throw the
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  Speaker 1: set and we just get a cracking vibe. That's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: So that's how you've been feeling like you haven't been
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  Speaker 4: finding a vibe late lyast you've been trying to create one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I like to travel a lot, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I like to live, but
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  Speaker 1: also I like to you know, like turn people onto
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  Speaker 1: what I've learned when I've been around the world. So
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  Speaker 1: it's just like different types of music, different types of curations.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just dope to have people come up to
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  Speaker 1: your houses you trust and just vibe. You know, people
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  Speaker 1: get tired of going our cameras everywhere. You know, some
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  Speaker 1: very distinguished black people in Atlanta and they like to
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  Speaker 1: really live. So I just like, come over to my
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  Speaker 1: crib man, we just hang out, you know what. I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying it's dope though.
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  Speaker 5: It like is it all rapid?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, No, it was like no, it was like you
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  Speaker 3: play everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, house music, old school. Yeah, it's vibe. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, I got so, I got a
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  Speaker 1: little soap. Yeah, I got a little something. You should
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  Speaker 1: come nick safe.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm you're gonna tell about everybody in the house.
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  Speaker 4: Whoever in the house, I tell you d everybody. Twenty
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  Speaker 4: year anniversary and one of the greatest hip hop albums, Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: What does it feel like mentally to have to revisit
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  Speaker 4: that era?
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  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it feels like that album
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to happen, uh, and even twenty years later,
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  Speaker 1: just the obstacles that I had to go through to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get this tour going and everything, it just
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  Speaker 1: feels like deja vu. But the but the consequences are
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  Speaker 1: not dire. They just real life things and you got
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  Speaker 1: to show your adversity. And it feels like I was
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  Speaker 1: just talking to somebody about the other day. It's just like, now,
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  Speaker 1: Soul Survivor really resonates with me. It makes sense, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because I'm a soul surviving and
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  Speaker 1: I'm listening to the word, I'm like, oh, this is me,
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  Speaker 1: this is who I am. You know when I wrote it,
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  Speaker 1: it was a record. Now this is my life and
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  Speaker 1: it's just like to be twenty because you got to think,
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  Speaker 1: like you think about Park and Big you know, what
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  Speaker 1: would they what would they have done twenty years in
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  Speaker 1: the game. You know what I'm saying, You celebrating all
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  Speaker 1: eyes on me life after death twenty years later. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Park might have been DJ in his basement.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm living life
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going through you know, one of those stages
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  Speaker 1: where you know, you get to watch the game line
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  Speaker 1: wash the streets. You know what I'm saying. I'm in
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  Speaker 1: this world, but I'm not of it, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I get to watch it. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, I already put my work in so
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  Speaker 1: I get to sit back. But I'm dealing with real
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  Speaker 1: stuff now, running companies and doing deals and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: empowering other people. So it's now I got to really
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  Speaker 1: practice my skills of leadership, but with my catalog behind me,
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  Speaker 1: because I can stand on that because it's solid. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm not you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fraid, you're barely amazed. I could keep going if
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to, but I got to.
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  Speaker 2: You have survivors remorse at all because I used to.
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  Speaker 2: You have so many people that you ran.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to. But everybody know me. They know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm solid. You know what I'm saying. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, my life is about peace, join freedom,
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  Speaker 1: and I ain't e I'm saying that to say a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people don't survive the war. Baby, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like I ain't got no reason
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  Speaker 1: to go back and then to approved. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just trying to live my life, make
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  Speaker 1: sure my people straight, you know, put me into people
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  Speaker 1: as I could put on and keep you know, just
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  Speaker 1: you know, just inspiring and involving my culture, which is
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  Speaker 1: why I'm even doing this symphony tour, which is crazy
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  Speaker 1: because I think I'm the first one to ever take
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  Speaker 1: a symphony around the world to do a tour. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean to celebrate, you know, my first
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  Speaker 1: debut album, which is about three four times platinum. I
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  Speaker 1: ain't checked last.
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  Speaker 2: Time, but I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Motivation one. Yeah, and it's crazy because it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the only time I remember putting on the suit is
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  Speaker 1: for a funeral or adding. It's a celebration and it's
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  Speaker 1: not just about It's not just about you know, the music,
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  Speaker 1: It's about everybody who came along with his journey with me.
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  Speaker 1: That will celebrate. Think about where you was twenty years ago,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Where you were twenty years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and where y'all at now. This is a celebration of
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  Speaker 1: that because that music reminds you of that time you
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  Speaker 1: was out there grinding. But look what you grind it too.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a reason for everybody put on a
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  Speaker 1: suit in a nice black dress and come out and celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: And I do want to say this, this is not
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  Speaker 1: this is not the opera. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna sit down and cross your legs. This
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  Speaker 1: is a party, you know what I'm saying. At the
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  Speaker 1: same time, you know, shout out to Adam Blackstone. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he helped me produce it. De Hodges, he wrote the music.
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  Speaker 1: He's actually conducting it. Those brothers are crazy about DJ
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  Speaker 1: drama with me. So you know, it's a part that
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  Speaker 1: got dj A's with me. It's a celebration.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, when you were making this album twenty years ago, right,
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  Speaker 3: were you just making songs or were you thinking the future?
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  Speaker 3: Were you thinking because you look at a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people in the industry and the catalog is not strong,
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  Speaker 3: right that first album, the catalog's not strong, they can't
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  Speaker 3: go on tour.
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  Speaker 1: Were you thinking about that.
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  Speaker 2: When you're writing this first album or was it just
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get out the hood.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I was just trying to still alive and free,
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  Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be heard. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: why that album is so solid is because I put
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  Speaker 1: everything in that. You know, I didn't have another shot,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like no label
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  Speaker 1: was looking for me. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 1: had spent all these all these all this money to
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  Speaker 1: build this buzz and I had this one opportunity. And
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  Speaker 1: you gotta think, like I lost my voice, I tore
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  Speaker 1: my vocal cords, you know, I had Bell's part. Like
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  Speaker 1: all these things happened at one time, and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: like I was humbled and the album got leaked four
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  Speaker 1: weeks before it came out. Think about that. I was
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  Speaker 1: up against all that and I'm still like praying, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And it happened. So when I
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  Speaker 1: look back twenty years ago, like I didn't realize what
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  Speaker 1: I was doing, but I know to change the trajectory
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  Speaker 1: my family and our generational wealth and getting my family
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  Speaker 1: in a better place that this is all I had,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I put everything in
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  Speaker 1: that trapa dye in this. Yeah, everything, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I probably you know it was riding around. You're still
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  Speaker 1: getting it. The Statute of limitations or put that out there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting what you said about the record
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  Speaker 4: Soul Survivor, because at that point in your life you
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  Speaker 4: had survived to a certain extent, but you didn't you
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  Speaker 4: didn't feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean you got to think about it. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really even start celebrating life until the recession. Wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was out of it, bro I was drinking, smoking, living.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just holding on, you know what I'm saying, because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know then I woke up one day It's like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still free.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know at any moment it could go yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And ain't nothing like that. That's some type of stress
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  Speaker 1: you don't even want, you know what I'm saying, because
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's every day, it never stops, and you're
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  Speaker 1: always on edge. You're living from uh you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: living from a survival mindset. You know I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 1: you know when I woke up on that day when
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  Speaker 1: I started to work on the Recession, That's when I
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  Speaker 1: realized what abundance was. You know what I'm saying. I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying because now I'm like, I'm a superstar. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was telling them the other day. Man, I got
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  Speaker 1: in the gym, got myself together. My first show in
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  Speaker 1: Boston for the Recession tour. You know, I get the
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  Speaker 1: stage and I'm telling the security guard, Hey, yo, they
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  Speaker 1: throwing stuff at me. We got to get out here
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  Speaker 1: and get down. He's like, sir, No, their panties.
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  Speaker 2: Down like this.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, objects, you know, bros and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, Yo, this is this is different because
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  Speaker 1: you got to think when I was doing shows, when
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  Speaker 1: Doug Motivation came out, all the gangsters in the front.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying all the all the hustlers.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't no women. I didn't have any women fans,
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  Speaker 1: you know, shout out to the women fans out there.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't have that.
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  Speaker 4: So when you put that record, the record with Tree
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  Speaker 4: songs on the album, that was them trying to tell you, Jesus,
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  Speaker 4: you got to make something.
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  Speaker 1: For the lead. That was me trying to do a
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  Speaker 1: record with Trey. Oh okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you ever hung out with Trigger Drey? Yes? Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: makes you want to do records like this. I need that.
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  Speaker 1: I need that about life. You know what I'm saying. Emotionally?
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  Speaker 4: Do you ever get triggered when you're on stage performing
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  Speaker 4: some of those records though?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, especially like lately, because I'm so
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  Speaker 1: seasoned with it that, you know, everything is like a
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  Speaker 1: sermon to me. You know what I'm saying. I don't
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  Speaker 1: take dislikely. I don't. I'm in a space where I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, I'm definitely I'm blessed and I'm
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  Speaker 1: grateful to still have people that understand what my mission
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  Speaker 1: is because it's my purpose, it's who I am like,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people do this because it
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  Speaker 1: has money or some type of you know, some some
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  Speaker 1: type of something behind it. But this is who I
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  Speaker 1: am every day, Like this is my life. Like when
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  Speaker 1: I walk out of here and I go walk downstairs
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  Speaker 1: and I see somebody, they ain't talking about the song.
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  Speaker 1: They talking about me, like we like, I keep doing
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing because we live in through you. So
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  Speaker 1: for me, it's just like some of those songs, especially
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  Speaker 1: like twenty years later to see it, because I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be honest, like Soul Survivor hits so different. It hits
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  Speaker 1: so different, like because back then it was a great song.
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  Speaker 1: You know, shout out this kid Stewart, you know, Rescipeace.
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  Speaker 1: He made me put that on the album. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But my whole thing was like I
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  Speaker 1: want to go trap or die, you know. And imagine
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  Speaker 1: if I would have listened to that myself and stayed
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  Speaker 1: on that trajectory and then where is that now? Because
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  Speaker 1: when I'm doing this Soul Surviving arenas and I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at these kids, I'm looking at these people, I'm like
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  Speaker 1: I want to do they realize like this is who
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  Speaker 1: I am. You know what I'm saying, and this is
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  Speaker 1: me living my dream being on the stage. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: getting standing ovations twenty years later, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know nobody else that can say that
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  Speaker 1: they're soul survivor and mean it like that. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that record means a lot to me and even Trapper Die.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just like that's real.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: But you're not sitting on the block with your thank
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  Speaker 2: God no more.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, we'll talk about that offline, but.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, does the street mentality actually leave? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So if you see I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, and you've been around Jay and you're seeing his
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  Speaker 3: evolution of being always looking over his shoulder to now,
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  Speaker 3: but when I see him walking in the buildings, it's
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  Speaker 3: like free, I don't have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 2: When I see fifty more, yeah, he feels more free.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel that way?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's always I mean, but I still got
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  Speaker 1: it because I'm not exempt, but I understand what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I carry myself with a level of integrity.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like, as long as I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's mutual respect, I don't feel like the need to
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  Speaker 1: even have to watch the room. But I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you this, I've been on a journey for about like
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  Speaker 1: almost eight nine years now, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But I can tell you at this point of my
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  Speaker 1: life like I'm really at peace, Like I don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about the things that I can't control, and that is
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  Speaker 1: including people, you know what I'm saying. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like I don't you know, everybody know me.
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  Speaker 1: I float around myl with any city.
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  Speaker 2: Though, because it took you a long time to get there.
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  Speaker 2: What got you there?
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  Speaker 1: Work therapy, therapy, work, h journal and meditating all that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not even gonna
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  Speaker 1: hold you like it's real. And when you wake up
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  Speaker 1: and you start to realize like okay, and you can
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  Speaker 1: emotionally regulate and you and you know who you are,
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  Speaker 1: you have nothing to prove. There's no better feeling, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I don't got to prove anything.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way you can see, you can tell
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  Speaker 1: because people are attracted to that, because they can tell
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  Speaker 1: that that's how you feel. Piece attracts peace, Chaos attracts chaos.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway around that. You know what I'm saying, If you
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  Speaker 1: if you got nervous energy, you're gonna tract nervous people.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't invite no nervous people to my house. Watch
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  Speaker 1: me DJ. You know that Yan to go back.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember the moment when jay Z told you
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  Speaker 4: that album was a classic?
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  Speaker 2: I remember reading that and maybe double.
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  Speaker 1: He said to me. He said to me, you you
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  Speaker 1: got a brand? He texts me. He was like, you
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  Speaker 1: got a brand. And I didn't know what that meant
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  Speaker 1: at first, but you know, twenty year years later, I
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  Speaker 1: can see that what he meant, like you actually stand
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  Speaker 1: for something and people understand what that is. Right, So
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like your bread could be anything. But my
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  Speaker 1: brain has always been motivation, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But if you coming out with your first album, it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to tell people you're motivating people. But twenty years later,
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is. I'm still doing what I know
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  Speaker 1: how to do best, and that's what he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to get me to see, Like stay there. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you know music was changing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we all want to be hot, but it's like when
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  Speaker 1: you when you when you're on fire in the inside.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need to be on fireside. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I ain't got to chase nothing. But then
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  Speaker 1: I would have you know what I'm saying. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like you it was snap music, it was crunk music.
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  Speaker 1: I had to figure it out. You know, I'm rapping
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  Speaker 1: it and I'm making songs that are the temple, you know,
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  Speaker 1: seventy two. You know, you think about knock if you buck.
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  Speaker 1: You know that was up there. So I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: club competing with that, thinking, man, maybe I should, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But he was more saying like stay there, you're good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but didn't he tell you that that album was
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  Speaker 4: a classic?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah he did. He did. He hit me up.
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  Speaker 1: He was just like yo, I think when he heard
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  Speaker 1: it for the first time because I played it for him,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, he definitely told me.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, this this one here gonna live
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: with you. And you know me, I was already on
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: to the next one. I was like, well'm well do
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: for the next album, because you know how it is
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: you living from you know, you're living from that place
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: to survivor You're like, man, if this worked. I gotta
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: be ready to go in because that's a lot of pressure,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't know if that
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: helped me when he told me it was a classic,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: because you know, back then, you know, I was a
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: little wild, So that got to you know that that definitely, uh,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: you know, made my head a little bigger. So that definitely,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: you know, like that to my ego. Did you ask
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: him to get on Dope Boys Go Crazy?
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I remember playing it. So first of all, that
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: record was a record that I heard when I was
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: over somebody else's trap house and they was playing this
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Tip mixtape. I think it was Down with the King
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: and I was just over there and I was kicking
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: and it was playing it. They asked me that I
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: hear it, and I heard that I heard him rapping
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: over to go Crazy, and I'm like damn, I said,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: who made the beat? There was like Don Cannon. So
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I left and I called Don Cannon. I was like, yo,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I need a beat like that, And then he said
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: why not use that beat? And I said, okay, what
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you mean and he said tipped and by the beat
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: he just rapped over. I was like, bet where you at?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: And pull up on you now. You know what I'm
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: saying right now. I got the I got the record.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I had a meeting in Death Jam, so I flew in.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Me and coach K flew into UH to New York.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: That morning, he picked me up from the studio. We
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: flew in. We flew back that same night. On the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: way back, I wrote go crazy on the plane. You
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying flying back to Atlanta. Recorded that night,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I had three verses. Death Jam came about two weeks later,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and it was all in patchworks and I played the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: whole album and when I got to that song, it
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: was all clapping when it was done, and I was like, Yo,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm putting jay Z on the song.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I said, y'all need to work that out. So La
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: read that yet speak of the existence. And one day
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: for the BT Awards, I was out in LA and
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: who called me to his hotel. He's like, YO, come by,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: to come by the hotel. So we sit upstairs and
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: this suite outside on the patio, smoking cigars, just talking
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: because we never talked about music. We always talk about life.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, Uh, what verse you're gonna
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: take off? And I was like, we mean, and then
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: he was talking about go Craze. I had three verses
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: and then he said, uh, I'm doing it, by the way,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and I was like, take it. You can take them
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: all off. That's what you want to do. I still
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: on the hook, and I remember I never forget it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: We was at kDa in New York. I mean, I'm
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: sorry in LA and Coach K walk in like we're
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: doing an interview like this. Coach K walk in. He
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: was like I got it, and I'm like what he's like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I got the jay Z verse med interview. I told
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the guy, I think it's Julio. I said, Julio, you
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: got We stopped the interview. I was like, you got
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: hold up and I go outside and I told him
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to come in the hallway. Coach played press play and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I heard that verse more than a hustle on the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: death cover. I was happy at first, but then I
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: started thinking.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: That it's okay, that record's best ever.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was. I was like, damn, okay,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: how did this work? You know? I think I got
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: him back on seeing it all.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Though, I think, so yeah, oh yeah, motivation one on one.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Is there a record that didn't make the album because
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: of clearance or for whatever reason that you said, Damn,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I wish that one made that album.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bunch of like mixtape stuff that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: didn't make it. And the thing about it is like
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the album really got pressured out. You know what I'm saying.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Because one of the interns who was up there, who
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: was trying to get his beats on the album, we'll
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: get a beat on the album. You know, I never
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: did anything on his records, and I left my drives
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: at Patchworks, so I guess he got mad and leaked
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the album four weeks before it came out. So now
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Bell's palsy, uh my vocal cords, all these things happening
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: at once, and now the album's leaked. So now I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, what am I gonna do?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Because now I got to think of the next plan.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: So I can't go back to the streets. You know
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because now I'm like, damn, like this
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: is it. And I'll never forget I went to pass Works.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I caught a lawsuit. I'll say that, you
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I had to bring the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: books right and and uh, you know. Actually it helped me,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know what they say,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: no no weapon, you know, in form against me. So
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: prosible help me because it went to all the bootlegs
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and it spread it everywhere. And the thing that I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: had the most anxiety about out of every thing was
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I had to pick a single right and on mixtapes
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: they try to put that they pick it for you.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So by the time he leaked it and it was
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: already going, I didn't know what I was going. And
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I was still pushing Trapade the song and the label
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: called me and Secure called me. He's like yo, He's like, yeah,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you can shoot trapa dive. That's what you want to do.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: We're shooting Soul Surviva. How do you want to shoot
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the video? Came to Brooklyn, shot the video. Everybody showed up, Hold,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Jim Jones, Cameron, you name it. It was crazy. It was
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it was festive and the video you know, we did
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it like paid him full. It was crazy. It was
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: probably one of the most memorable moments of my career,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because you know, you always
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: heard stories about Brooklyn, like, ain't nobody come to Brooklyn.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: They're like, Jesus, we love you. Like I'm I'm out
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn shooting the video and everybody from the blocks
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: coming out, and the whole label was there. A lot
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: of guys from Atlanta came in like it was. It was,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it was ill and when the video came out, it
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: was gone. And I didn't really and I told I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: was telling somebody that I knew Akon from being around
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the way because it was like him and Boo. I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell him apart, right, you know what I'm saying.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So I didn't realize he was that big oversea and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't. And then this is the first collaboration that
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I've ever done, so I didn't realize doing a record
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: with somebody that you can actually tap into their fan
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: base too, on a national level or a global level, right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And I ain't know that. So it went from me
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: being able to walk through the airport, you know what
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, seven a m. To catch my flight to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: like now I'm walking through the airport. Everybody, Hey, con
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you like where you from? Brother Africa? Man? We love you.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, you know what I'm saying. So
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it was love and it was just like one thing
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I say about the boy Khin, He's different, you know
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because he's over there, you know, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: they love him. You know. I shows with him in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Africa and I'm like, okay, like what is going on?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows who I am, but know who you are.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And he was like, you got to be over here
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I love that, you know
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And we over the years hit me up.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You know, over the years we always stayed locked in.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Hit me up. The other day, I was like, yo,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: we number one on TikTok. I don't even know what
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that means, but I'm like, yeah, really flippered to the judge.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Yeah right, way got them ten. I'm
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: trying to get him off for about phone and a half,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, shout out to ma'a man.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I'm shocked that you didn't know that you were such
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: a saxaple. I'm really sitting here like you how.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Did you not?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like in the you know, like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that then, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: cause you gotta think like back then when I was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: doing you know, I was I'm five eight. I was
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: two sixty skin bad. I want drinking water. My dad
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: was waffle House and Crystal. You know what I'm saying.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm partying all day because I didn't know if I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was going to be home for real. Yeah I was
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: big now, Oh yeah yeah yeah, not get it now.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean even on the intellectual level, like I know
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that I can sit down smart with the best of them.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I know that for a fact.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: We saw you with Neil.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah shot, and then I.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Said, I was even saying a lot of women in
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: the commons saying, oh after the divorce, man, he looked
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: even better.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I received that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: But I know that that was like an intense time.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: You know, last year, you're going through all of that,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: even with you know, the custody battle she did win
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: and everything. Where are things with you on your ex?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Peace? Yeah? Peace? Man. I just I'm I'm all about understanding.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm all about what's best for everybody, the greater you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the greater good. And it's just like I'm just telling you,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Like my life, I tell myself this every day, like, man,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: this is amazing. I don't got no enemies, I ain't
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: got no issues. I don't want no enemies. I don't
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: want no issues. I just want peace. I just want joy,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and I just want freedom. I love my freedom. You
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I love it, Like you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: just talk about I came up here independently. I just
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: call like I'm coming to the breakfast club. You know
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I ain't got to check in,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I ain't gotta you know, I ain't got to talk
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to no label, I ain't got to do nothing to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: shout out to depth jam. I love y'all. But it's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: just like freedom and ownership is everything. You know what
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Especially when you're talking art, you're talking culture,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: talking to your mind. You know what I'm saying, Like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I've worked hard my whole life. This is like this
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: this is the season of me. You know what I'm saying.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm putting myself first. It all costs, you know what
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's just like my piece is everything.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Like everybody didn't know me. Know that. You know what
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. They calm and be like, yeah, bro, like
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I love you, but don't call me nothing crazy. You
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, how was that because
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: you're very private, very private person, but that was so
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: public did not irk you at all, like everybody in
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: your business talking about you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I had to come to the realization that I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: know who I am and that nobody else can't tell
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: me different. So as long as I stayed on the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: path of integrity and staying true to myself, it wasn't
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: nothing really to worry about because anybody didn't know me,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I even heard y'all was up here,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like now, I know, I know Jezu you know that,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: But that's that's because my reputation exceeds me. I'm like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't on nothing, you know what I'm saying.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That's I need to be you know what I'm saying,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm not. So it's just like it comes with
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the territory, you know what I'm saying, he where as
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the crown. It's just like you know, people talked about Jesus,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, They're gonna talk about everybody.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna like you. Now, if I'm a good
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: person to you and you don't like me, then there's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a problem. But if you don't like me because of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: what you heard or what you think, then I ain't
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: none of my spiritual business. I can't do nothing about that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I can't even convince you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: because your mind has made up. However, if you know
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: me and we had some type of interaction and action,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I haven't done anything wrong to you, then that says
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: more about you than me, because now you judge and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: now you judge me. There's no judgment here because I'm
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: not perfect by far. But if I haven't done anything
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to you, then you can't take that position because you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the people around me got real love for me and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: my friends in my circle, like I never felt any
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: type of just but the people who wasn't for me
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of course, and that I mean that did me a solid.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Now I ain't got to even worry about cutting you off.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, would get married again yet
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: me up, I'm gonna be all the way on. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: love my freedom and that has nothing to do and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything in the past. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: just love my freedom. You know what I'm saying, Like
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I love it. You know, I think like partners are amazing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: You know I would think, so, how did you feel
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: when the Internet said you were you were trying to
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: holler me along by any means necessarily.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: They wasn't lying, It was not lying. But I was real. Men,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I never cheated like that. No, I don't cheat me
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm saying, like, that's a little hanging fruit.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: If I'm locked in, I'm like, then we got to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: be married. Like, I'm just not a cheater. That's like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cheat my friends. You know what I'm saying.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. That ain't in my blood. But
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: but but you said I was trying to holler, Yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, but I had to be respectful
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: because I was still you know, finalizing, you know what
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was hard.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It was tough saying focus, they're gonna link you with
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: everybody now, they're gonna link you everybody.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Ability the other day when you did that, they.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't do that. They would do We love Cynthia. Man
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: shout out to Cynthia. That's a home. You know what
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Now the other one, yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I just said on that real quick.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: On the other one, oh, absolutely everything is smilized.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Park.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the Park. But I'm not gonna play
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: So you said you might see her at some of
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: these shows.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, she's invited. I know she has a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: beautiful black dress. He's definitely invited.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I do want to know what what inspired you to
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: re reimagine the album in this way though, because I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: sitting I'm like your symphony orchestra, black tie, twist your
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: fingers up bag.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: But when we did it with the we did it
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta was the first one. There was no feeling
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like that because there was a lot of people that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I saw and by the way, I've been trying to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: do this for you know, at least five years. But
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it was like so many people that I saw in
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the crowd that I knew personally that I was just
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: proud of where they was at because they're successful this,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that that, But they don't want to come to a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: show where they feel I want to bring my woman out,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I want to get you. I want to go to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: dinner before and hit the spot after. This is a celebration.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: This isn't a show a concert. This is a one
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: night you know, one man. One might think, and it's
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: just like, why not celebrate the evolution of it. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: also I would like to add that I feel like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's my moral obligation because I was the one that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: told these kids that trapide. I feel like it's my
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: moral obligation to show them evolution in this and that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you don't have to change to evolve, you know what
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, if you make art, it should
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: grow with you, right, it shouldn't. You shouldn't have to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: be a different person, because I think that's what they
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: run into the roadblocks. It's just like I gotta be
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: thugged forever, you know what I'm saying. And that's if
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that's how you feel, that's how you feel, But I don't.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna gotta be on the block with my
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like now, I'm in the boardrooms,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: right and that's okay. And my thing is my is
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: my mind because I know I'm a lot of water
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: dos and I don't been through enough to know that
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: if the press is on, I'm not worried about losing
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: my job. They may be. I'm gonna make sound decisions
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: because I've been through it before. So that's my gift.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But for the culture, it hurts me to know these
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: young men and to see them in these situations. I care,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: bro Like, I don't care what nobody These are my
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: These are like my little brothers, and I know I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: can't change them, right, so I can't judge them. The
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: only thing I could do is what I saw, like
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: hold them do for me. Just leave by example. You
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: know what I'm meaning, Just do your thing and just
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: leave the door open or the back door at least,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: because it's not easy, like to even get to this
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: point and all the turmoil and those that got closed
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on me just to even do this this project, you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I had to really really realize,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: like okay, you still you. So you gotta really, you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: do this the right way and it's on your own.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But you gotta realize they ain't gonna let just let
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you in this door like that. But so I got
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to make sure I leave the door open for the kids.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: It's coming up at the generation behind him, because if
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you really look at it, when Trappa Daye dropped up
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: motivation all this, if you've seen the influx of street
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: cats that got into music because they was like, man,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I saw Jesus, I know people that he actually was
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: affiliated with, got down with whatever cities he been to, whatever,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So I know, if he can do it, I can
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: do it. The only problem is the rules are different
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: because ain't nobody, ain't no big homies, So it's like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the wild wild West, you know what I'm saying. It's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: probably why I'm listening to the house music these days,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because it's like I love
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the music, but it's a different vibration, so I don't
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: need that all day. I can listen to it in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the gym, right, but I'm not gonna listen to it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know when I get up in the morning to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: go do what I gotta do, because I want to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: keep it, you know. But at the same time, I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: feel like it's my more gatson, like in my heart,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's my purpose to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: inspire and to help culture evolve, Like that's that's my purpose.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Do you have conversations with the younger artists?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: And the reason I ask is yeah, it's like you said,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: you know, we talk about it all the time. We
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: did a lot of super stuff back then, but there
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: was none of this. There was no internet, right, They
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: weren't telling on themselves, but now it just seems like
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: it's the cool thing to tell everybody what you did,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: rather hate it illegal or not, which is the wow.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Crazy because there's no integrity and there's nobody to follow,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: which is why I don't do a lot of interviews.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I come talk to y'all.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: We don't kick it, but I don't got nothing to
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: say to somebody who's looking for ignorance. For me, you
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm still operating by
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the cold, you know what I'm saying. These people are
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: moving the goalposts. I don't like that. I don't want
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to play in that game. You know what I'm saying.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Every time it's something different. Why is it something different
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: for them and not me, you know what I'm saying,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: or us? So for me, I feel for them because
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: they don't got nobody to follow, you know what I'm saying.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And there's nothing like giving somebody this because you got
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to think about it, like WEE got the type of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: money he got, but he ain't get Lebron money for playing.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: So they're giving them a different type of money, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: they're using the money. They still got trauma, they still
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: got things going on that's so important to them that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: they feel like they got to deal with. But now
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you're giving them money to few the war man.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I seen this kid on TikTok a Couples goingmembery showing
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: you that video. The dude was literally in his room
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: crying to his girlfriend because his object came up on
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: some money, right, and the way he was serious, he
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: was like, man like, man, they're gonna have all the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: type of choppers and switching's actually ain't fair.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, first of all, why you're recording this
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: number one? He's probably trying to get a safe haven
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to me. You know who it is. I don't respect it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I said I wasn't gonna talk about it
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: when I came up here because I feel like, ain't
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: none of my spiritual business. But as somebody who's been
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in the game, a part of the game and in
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: this world or not of it, I just don't respect it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Ain't no integrity. Like everybody getting up here, they talking
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: too much. They're saying too many things, and if that's okay,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: then the next generation gonna do the same thing and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: even worse. It even worse. And I'm only concerned about
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the culture because at some point, when nobody respects it
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: no more, they're not going to respect the art form.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It don't even matter what you say. It'll be like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: we'll be obsolete, you know what I'm saying, because ain't nothing,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: ain't no, There ain't no integrity behind what we're doing
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: or saying, because we're doing anything, and it looks like
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we're doing anything for money, right And I don't like
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that because I'm not doing anything for money. You know
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I probably turned down more than I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: accept because it got to be in line with my purpose.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: And that's just me. I'm not asking nobody else to
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: be that way. But when you speak of a culture,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you can see why people kind of stay away from
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it because they're kind of like, I don't know if
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I want to be affiliated with that, you know what
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I don't. I don't, you know, And
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: if all my kids are going to think is that
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you know that I was an artist, and that's it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a father first, I'm a man first. You know
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm a CEO first. You know what
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm a big brother first, you know what
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm all the things. I'm a son, you know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So we can't just get categorized and boxed into what
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: we are as far as coach and go live that out,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: because then if something happened to your kids, are the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: ones and suffering, you know, ain't nothing like having a
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: daddy that was rich and now we ain't got nothing
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: because he made a decision for what he thought was right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with anybody. And you asked
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: me earlier, And I ain't calling no names because I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: ain't trying to call nobody out because I love them. Bro,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want to set on these catch beds in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: their house and they room like, hey man, we got
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to talk, bro. Like I'm a call like, hey man,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: what you got going?
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Bro?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Like, come pull up on me. Let's talk about this. Man.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I'm did it so many times. And I think that
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the disconnect is when they when these labels are giving
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: these kids these type of money, money equals respect to them.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm not listening to you because you
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing for me. And I got this, which
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: is fine now, sustaining it is a whole different conversation,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: but even keeping you because now you got the change
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to change generational wealth, you know what I'm saying, or
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: either put those kids in. It's a difference between your
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: kids going to to public school and private school or
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: having those type of friends when they grow up, because
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that's what it's about, like their relationships and who they're
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: gonna meet and grow up with and go to college
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with and all that, because it ain't about you. It's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: about your kids, right, But just imagine that everything's going great,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: everybody's loving this new life we got, and then you
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: just make a decision. It's purely based on the motions
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and ego. And I tell everybody, man, a bad day
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: for the ego is a great day for the soul.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because I've had to make
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: so many unpopular decisions, but it all worked out for
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: me because I'm in peace right and I ain't gotta play,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like I don't got
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to play the game because if you come over here,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We're gonna be in the right.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: It's not even it ain't even about being gangs. It's
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: about being a man. It's just like I don't want
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to be nothwhere around it. I love y'all. You can
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: come one on, you know, one on one, but don't
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: bring all your partners. I don't want to be bought
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. But I feel
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: for them because you know, it's a lot of web
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: pinles in that penitentium. Man, you know what I'm saying.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: There's a lot I do want to say.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: In regard to the music you used to make twenty
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: years ago, you can't beat yourself up about that because
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: you was doing the best you could with the information
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: you had at the time. And when I listened to
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Third Motivation one on one that don't just a hustle
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: is a hustle, I don't mean that leaving me.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: To no, no. And I don't want you to think
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that I'm tripping. I'm saying because I always knew it
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: was a position of leadership. I always understood that now
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: what I was going through. When I was going through,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I just wised up over time and started listening to
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the people who's really trying to help me, right, because
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: they really were, and they were people that I wouldn't
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: expect you know what I'm saying. There were people that
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: was reaching out having these conversations, but I took hey,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, Okay, tell me about that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And you gotta stay curious, you know, you got to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: ask the questions. And then when you start seeing what's
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: happening around you, it goes back to the streets. Like
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I knew what not to do based off behind all
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: these people getting into trouble. So I'm like, I don't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: want to do that. I ain't the jail type. I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now. I can't see sitting nowhere
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and not being product. So I don't want to even
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: put myself in a position like that without me having
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying. But I don't regret anything.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I don't regret my hard times. I don't regret my lows.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I don't regret my highs. I don't regret my run ins.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I don't regret anything because it all taught me a lesson.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I stand that now
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and I can say that whole hardly. So when somebody
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: comes and talk to me, I can say, bro, look,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to do but I'm gonna
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: tell you, like, I don't know how that's gonna work out,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: because this is what happened over here. This is what
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I've seen happen with this person. Now, you could take
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that data and that information, you could do whatever you
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: want with it, but I can assure you that if
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you do that, there's gonna be some type of consequence.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: So when you when you go on a journey like this,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: you know, for your your twenty years of thumb motivation
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: one on one, does it make you like does it
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: make you reach out to like older people you came
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: up with?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Like, have you smoke in the big meat?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yes? Solid? Solid? Okay, yeah, everybody solid? Bro. I'm just
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: peace man. Welcome home is love, baby. You know what
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying for me, it's you know, I'm like I said, man,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it's all good me bro, you know what I'm saying?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: All good?
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: What's the deep album cut that you really enjoy performing
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: off Doug Motivation on one man?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I mean listen, bro, I can't get past intro, you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you gotta you gotta wait
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: till you hear this with the with the symphony, you
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the symphony, and I need
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: everybody know I'm coming through your city. I'm coming through
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: your town. It's gonna be amazing one night only, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you gotta pull up. And going back to your other
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: question about me reaching back out, I think it's more
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: important for me to reach forward. So shout out the LISK,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: who I just partner with for my nonprofit space, and
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: shout out to the Urban League of Atlanta, who I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: reached out with for my Young CEO program.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Because it's like, what is list I know you do
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: that with the Screen Dreams Foundation.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, list is is. So we got to two things
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: going right now. We definitely got the prostate cancer campaign
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: going on because I had a couple of friends that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: go through that, so we were locked in there. But
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it's definitely entrepreneurs, young entrepreneurs, you know tech spaces just
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you have it like we're showing them how to set
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: up their lives so that they can win. And same
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: thing with the Urban League of Atlanta. Same thing. We
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: got the Young CEO program. You can go on my
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Instagram check it out. You know, anybody from the ages,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: what's the agent seventeen to twenty four and we send
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it up. We're putting them with mentors all that. And
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: by the way, like this is who I am. Like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I love this. And somebody asked me, how do you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: do both? They're all the same, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: We still motivating. It's all the same to me. You know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it's just we get to jump on the stage, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: then we get to go help some people with prostate
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: against We get to jump on the stage and we
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: get to go help mentor some kids. You know. I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: And you're saving people, you know, and people can live
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: a much longer life if they just go.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And I know I said this last time, but I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: got to say it again because you saved me. Brother.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Charlemagne for my New York Time best
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: selling book Adversity for Sale, because I ran into a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: situation where I had an issue with a publishing company
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and I called charlemagne'e like, who published your book? And
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he put me with somebody and we went on to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: sell a New York Times bestseller.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so thank you, thank you, brother, Thank you for
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: all the years of motivation with the music. My last question,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: if you could go back and tell two thousand and
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: five GZ one thing before TM one or one drop,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: what would it be?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Go order? Because I was a little reluctant because you know,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I was scared of failure, you know what I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: because I had so much on the line. So it
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: was like real pressure. You know, it ain't nothing like
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: everybody looking at you like a way out, you know
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That pressure is on your shoulder. But
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: then you're also looking at yourself like if because it's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: different if a record labels inquiring you and you hide
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: in the streets and on your like they're they're pushing
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: this issue like this is your money, this is your time,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: this is your energy. So if it doesn't work, you know,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, you don't spend all. You
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: don't spend all your bread and now you got to
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: figure something else out and you don't turn your back
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: on everything you knew as far as like the streets,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to take this chance. So I always said it go
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: harder because there was a lot of times where I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was like I was sitting back not being the star
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that I could have been, because I was having what
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: did it called the impostra sycally, you know, because I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: was in these rooms with these guys that was really
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: writing and really like this is what they been doing
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: their whole life, and I kind of just stumbled into
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: this and it wasn't until I just realized that, like,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: but you but you're real though, you are who you
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: say you are, and you don't have to be as witty.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: You can be realer. And that was my thing. So
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: when I was saying if it's taken too long to
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: lock up, I was talking to the people who knew
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: what I was talking about, So everybody wasn't gonna get there.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: And that's the that's the that's what I had over
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: everybody else. I knew how to talk to the people
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that mattered to me. And uh, it wasn't until I
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: really figured that out is when I was like, okay,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I could live in and like I said, it was
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it was. I was three hours in before I woke up,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and I was just like I took that book bag
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: with all those not bricks, I mean like waiting it
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: because it was heavy, and I just took it off
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: and through it and I was like, I'm going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: be a star. I'm going to be a star man,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you know. So thug motivation to me was a blur
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: because it was like it could have happened. It might
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: not happened, but everything I went through I'm grateful for
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: even right now to this day, because there's nothing that
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I go up against that I don't go What would
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I have done in two thousand and five? You know
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how would I've worked around this? And
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I love it because when people put me into you know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like if I get in situations with business and I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: called back and I called my team the next thing
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and be like, Yo, we're gonna do this, they'd be like, oh, man,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I knew it. We got them, you know what I'm saying,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: because they tried to box me in. I figured it out.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, answer in a lot of ways just towards
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: like you being able to relive that time but actually
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: enjoy the moment.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the moment, man, I do, and I want people
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to enjoy with me. And I'm gonna say this, like
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: this is for us. You know, put your put your
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: black suito. If you don't got a bow tie, put
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: your black dress on. Let's have a good time. Let's celebrate.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Let's celebrate you know, evolution, Let's celebrate life, Let's celebrate
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: our wins, our losses and everything, like, let's have a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: good time because I don't want to keep coming and
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: we're doing like, you know, you could do a show,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: but I want an experience. You know what I'm saying.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I want you to see what I'm trying to say.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And again, this is a party. This is not uh,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you just come and sitting down. You know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: this is not the opera. Shout out to the opera.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But it's not the opera, gotch. We appreciate you for joinings.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys and tickets. Oh you go to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: gez It's TM one on one.
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  Speaker 2: Live one dot com. Sir, we appreciate you for joining us.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Let's definitely pulling.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I want to say this before I leave.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: New York is gonna be lit because I'm actually officially
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: closing down the Apollo. I'm doing the last show there
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: until they do the renovation, so they're gonna sit down
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. So I will be
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: having an official last show with them. It's gonna be crazy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Look on the website to find out when I'm coming
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  Speaker 1: through your city. Shout out to the Breakfast Club, Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to you. Out. Yeah, well there you have it. Yes, sir,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it's Jeezy.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up here in the morning. The Breakfast
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Club