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Jaguars Happy Hour | Roster Review, Buccaneers Joint Practices · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you about it too. Welcome into Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 3: Hour from the Hondey Studios. I'm Kinnannie Stevens, Austin Lane,
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  Speaker 3: Pete Prisco with me today and we're gonna talk football.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna cut down this roster for you. You got a
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  Speaker 3: So it's Monday, August twenty fourth preseason games. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: talk a little bit about that. Bucks have a joint
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  Speaker 3: practice here with the Jaguars, two days of joint practice,
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  Speaker 3: so we're very much looking forward to that matchup. And
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  Speaker 3: then we're gonna cut down this fifty three man roster.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all here in studio, I think we
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  Speaker 3: can figure it out. We're gonna do just that, and
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  Speaker 3: then we'll go a little bit around the NFL some
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  Speaker 3: different news. Of course, we know the Browns starting quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that later on, But welcome in CBS
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  Speaker 3: Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. Of course, in former Jaguar
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  Speaker 3: its fense Ben Austin Lane. Let's talk a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about that second preseason game, and then let's move on
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  Speaker 3: really quickly, because it was really bad. The Panthers came
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  Speaker 3: in enrolled, and we knew after a really good joint
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  Speaker 3: practice the starters weren't going to go in that game.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's what Liam Collin kind of challenges team,
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  Speaker 3: you know, hey, maybe they will play to kind of
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  Speaker 3: you know, wink wink, nudge nudge, get them to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: really go out, and they did that against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: He saw what he wanted to see and then he
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  Speaker 3: shut it down. But Pete not not great football watching
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  Speaker 3: on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: They look lifeless.
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  Speaker 1: And you get to a point, and Austin get attest
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  Speaker 1: to this because he played. You get to a point
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  Speaker 1: in training camp where you've gone through a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: You've played one preseason game, you had a workout with
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  Speaker 1: the Saints, you have one with the Bucks this week,
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  Speaker 1: and you had that one you know that won last
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  Speaker 1: week with Carolina, and all of a sudden, you look
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  Speaker 1: around and you go, we're in the middle of this thing.
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  Speaker 1: This game doesn't mean anything. Nobody's playing and they just
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  Speaker 1: look lifeless to me, and I think Liam Cohne kind
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  Speaker 1: of hinted at that a little bit after the game.
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  Speaker 1: So it was not a good performance. So the backups
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  Speaker 1: were terrible, but we could have told you that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: those guys aren't going to be on the roster, the
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  Speaker 1: majority of them. So it just was not a very brisk,
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  Speaker 1: good looking football game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, to me, it was really that game
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  Speaker 4: was a tail of two teams. You had the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: where it looked like they felt like they got their
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  Speaker 4: work in during the joint practice, right, So I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to use the word of complacent or satisfied, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, in terms of physicality and effort, like it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't always there. And then I felt like you had
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  Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers, who did play a lot of their ones, right,
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  Speaker 4: who who try to make a statement, who kind of
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  Speaker 4: looked like they were challenged a little more. Right. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you go back to that Bills game, there, I
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  Speaker 4: think a live in their second preseason game or the
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  Speaker 4: first because in the Hall pame whatever it was their
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  Speaker 4: first was the first Okay, yeah, so they're against the
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  Speaker 4: beau Yeah, so their second preseason game against the Bills
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  Speaker 4: like that was embarrassing, right, So it's almost like their
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  Speaker 4: GM calls them out, their coach calls them out. You
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  Speaker 4: have the ones playing against Jacksonville and and the did
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  Speaker 4: what they're supposed to do. Now, they weren't perfect, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: but I think you saw one team that kind of
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  Speaker 4: looked like they were challenged a little more, and you
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  Speaker 4: saw another team, the Jacksonville Jaguars, that felt like they
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  Speaker 4: got their work done during the week. That's what it
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  Speaker 4: looked like.
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  Speaker 3: And it's tough because even like second team wasn't out
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  Speaker 3: there for most of that, right, Like, these aren't even
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  Speaker 3: they were you know, some of the rookies weren't even touched.
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  Speaker 3: They were dressed, but they weren't touching the field either.
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  Speaker 3: So when you get that far down the lineup, it
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  Speaker 3: is difficult to see much out.
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  Speaker 4: Of that, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, And I started tweet out this week
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  Speaker 1: about the preseason being garbage because it really is. And
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  Speaker 1: it's to the point now the work you get in
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  Speaker 1: those joint practices is a hundred times.
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  Speaker 2: More valuable than what you're getting in the games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, basically, we had bouncers, bartenders, and IBM executives
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  Speaker 1: who were playing at the end of that game. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it was. And here's the other part of the
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  Speaker 1: tough evaluation. If you see a number one player on
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  Speaker 1: an offense, you know, a number one offensive left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: number one right tackle, the running back, and he's working
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  Speaker 1: against a number two or a number three, how in
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  Speaker 1: the hell do you evaluate that? I mean, that's not
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  Speaker 1: you can't evaluate that for the most part because.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to dominating.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the big kid in high school just threw
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  Speaker 1: around all the little kids. That's basically what that is.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's a real tough evaluation for the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I think the Jaguars did put a lot
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  Speaker 1: into that joint practice last week. There isn't tackling in
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  Speaker 1: those so it's kind of a fine line. You know
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  Speaker 1: people you know you want to tackle, you want to hit,
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  Speaker 1: and in those things you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't really bring guys to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think the preseason is outdated, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to eventually get it down to one
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  Speaker 1: or two. And what I have always said, have one,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for the young guys, have the one and
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  Speaker 1: then go have a scrimmage, a full blown scrimmage. No,
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  Speaker 1: not with tackling, but at like where Jacksonville would play
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  Speaker 1: the Falcons and Tampa Bay could go into the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the state and play Miami, or if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, you could do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you get you increase your fan base in
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  Speaker 1: these small parts of the smaller parts of the country.
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  Speaker 4: Marketing sounds like a paper viewer too, right, A little
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  Speaker 4: extra incentive, little money there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a little you get a little money,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get people interested. But more than that, you
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  Speaker 1: give people who normally wouldn't be able to afford maybe
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  Speaker 1: to go to a football game the opportunity to maybe
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  Speaker 1: pay ten twenty bucks to go in and see them practice.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be I think that would be fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: So here's the thing, Pete like, Yeah, if you watch
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  Speaker 4: the game, just to watch the game, there wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: lot to like, right, you got twos versus ones, ones
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  Speaker 4: versus twos and everything. So yeah, it wasn't necessarily the
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  Speaker 4: best look from the Jaguars. But then if you look
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  Speaker 4: deeper at it, there were some players on the field
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  Speaker 4: for Jacksonville that are going to be counted on to
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  Speaker 4: get starting reps, right, like Branson Combs, Ventro Miller. If
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  Speaker 4: you look at the safeties, whether it's gonna be Caleb Bransaw,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's gonna be Rayon Lamb, like some of those
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  Speaker 4: guys that were out there as you quote unquote twos
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, they're gonna be expected to make plays as starters.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought that was kind of telling a little
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  Speaker 4: bit too. Where you know, in that safety group, nobody
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  Speaker 4: really stood out to me, Like in terms of that
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  Speaker 4: linebacker group right now, I'm kind of like taking the
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  Speaker 4: less of of the bad. Where do you want Ventro
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  Speaker 4: Miller in his physicality where it seems like he's a
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  Speaker 4: little more dependable, Or do you want Branson Combs, who
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  Speaker 4: is good in coverage but against the Panthers look like
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  Speaker 4: he kind of lacked that physicality and was almost like
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  Speaker 4: hesitant sometimes to step up and make a play.
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  Speaker 3: Against the Panther.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's gonna be one of those
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  Speaker 1: insaney where they both play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I think it's gonna be an
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  Speaker 3: on the roster for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then that's how they started last year, even with
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  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd and Ventre Miller, and then it turned into
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  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd. But uh, until one can prove that they
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  Speaker 3: can be used in both situations, I haven't seen it yet. Personally,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's definitely gonna be an ore on the roster.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of silver linings. Well, we'll try to get
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  Speaker 3: into this because public's we're shopping as a pleasure has
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  Speaker 3: a player of the game. And of course I think
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  Speaker 3: what was interesting about this is a mere Abdullah, who
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  Speaker 3: I know Coach Cohen was hoping would kind of just
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  Speaker 3: be hidden on the side and maybe he could sneak
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  Speaker 3: onto this team. But you know, twelve year vet, he's
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  Speaker 3: been on like six or seven teams. He still got
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  Speaker 3: a little pop there he has, I believe besides la
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  Speaker 3: Quinn Allen, he's good in past pro. And I know
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  Speaker 3: Liam is kind of mad that he had to like
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  Speaker 3: go and use him because he was kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: maybe if I don't play him, then I'll sneak him
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  Speaker 3: around and no one will remember. And now it's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh he has a pop out game. Someone's gonna grab
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  Speaker 3: him if you don't put him on the roster.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, without a doubt, this was a guy
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  Speaker 4: like you know, you heard the whole preseason Jamari Taylor,
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  Speaker 4: Jamari Taylor, Jamar Taylor. This though, right, and then you
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  Speaker 4: see what Abdullah and once again going in what he's
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  Speaker 4: year twelve? Now you twelve, assuming that he passed all
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  Speaker 4: the drug tests, because I don't know how he's in
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  Speaker 4: year twelve and he's still this fast running back and
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  Speaker 4: this capable is unreal to me. But I think he
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  Speaker 4: made a lot of money for himself in this game,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he's overtaken now Jamari Taylor, and I
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  Speaker 4: understand the you know the debate, right, do you go
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  Speaker 4: with the young guy who looks like he's capable or
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  Speaker 4: do you take the veteran who looks like he's nothing
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  Speaker 4: but dependable in the receiving game. And we're not really
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  Speaker 4: quite sure about la Quinnell and yet if he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be ready for week one, I'm gonna air on the
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  Speaker 4: side of a mirror Abdulla, because I think he showed
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  Speaker 4: he can do a little bit of everything. He's a
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  Speaker 4: veteran and special teams as well. If you need him,
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  Speaker 4: you might he might be there. So I'm taking Abdulla
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  Speaker 4: right now over Jamari Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the decision when you look at it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think either, I'll be honest with you, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think either one of them would be taken off
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  Speaker 1: the roster. I mean, you have a twelve year veteran
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. He was out there for anybody who
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  Speaker 1: wanted him, and so I no, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be taken either. But I don't think Taylor
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  Speaker 1: will be taken off that roster either. So I think
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  Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to decide is do you want
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  Speaker 1: the more reliable guy who's been around on the active
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  Speaker 1: roster and then he put the kid on the practice squad,
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  Speaker 1: which is probably what they'll probably do, and we'll get.
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  Speaker 2: More into that as we go along.
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  Speaker 1: But what if Allen isn't there, then you have a
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  Speaker 1: decision to make if you want to keep four of
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  Speaker 1: them and active, and I don't know if they will
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  Speaker 1: in that scenario.
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  Speaker 3: But probably not active, right, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean I'm not an active but on the fifty I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Have to be on the fifty three.
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  Speaker 1: And again, well, we cut the team, which we love
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  Speaker 1: to do, and you know Bacelli hates when we do it,
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  Speaker 1: but we do it anyways. Yeah, hoody the hoody.
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  Speaker 2: We're cutting the team, and we're going to be right
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Well.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to compare notes when when they do their cutting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, he said last remember he said last
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  Speaker 1: week last year that we didn't get Strig out uh
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  Speaker 1: and bj Green remember, and we did, we had, we had.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to keep stringent notes this time so he
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  Speaker 3: can't come in here and start all that again.
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  Speaker 4: And then the way that they actually copy p when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to draft talk, right, because they're always taking
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  Speaker 4: Pete's guys that you know, I think, is it the
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  Speaker 4: better than team Pete? Yes, yeah, So I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're to make their jobs really easy.
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  Speaker 2: And they got three of them last Yeah, so they
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  Speaker 2: copy my paper.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're really going to make their jobs easy
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  Speaker 4: with the cuts as well. When we've cutt on the
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  Speaker 4: team for them, essentially.
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  Speaker 3: He should thank us, really is what he should do.
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  Speaker 3: How about this, we talked a little bit about backup QB.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to get rid of Nickmullins. That's how
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  Speaker 3: they're going to go forward with this.
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  Speaker 1: But it was better by the way, I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was better a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit was he operated more quickly and I felt like
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  Speaker 3: got a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Balloons where I'm staying in the air for a half hour.
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  Speaker 1: The other night, it was better.
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  Speaker 3: So he's your backup quarterback, But as Joey Aguilar, your
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  Speaker 3: your third team guy is he's he's shown you enough
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  Speaker 3: to be run the scout team. Is that who you
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  Speaker 3: go with there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it matters.
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  Speaker 3: Pete doesn't care, he's not trying to develop. He's over it.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't because I don't think either one of
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  Speaker 1: them is going to develop into a quarterback in the league.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, to me, it's just a matter of
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  Speaker 2: what your preference is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, Carter Bradley's done some good things
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  Speaker 1: and he's done some bad things, you know, but again,
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  Speaker 1: look who this guy's throwing to and playing with and against.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to evaluate it. There's there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: guys that.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't going to be on the team on either one
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  Speaker 1: of those teams next week. So it's a hard evaluation.
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  Speaker 4: It is a hard evaluation, you know. I think probably
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  Speaker 4: the greatest detriment to Carter Bradley was how great he
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  Speaker 4: looked against the Saints and maybe got a little overconfident
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  Speaker 4: because that one interception where he threw across his body
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  Speaker 4: and everything.
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  Speaker 2: It was just terrible.
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  Speaker 4: It was a horrible throw. That can't happen, right, So
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  Speaker 4: so I think you have a guy who came in
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  Speaker 4: a little overconfident if you will, they can make all
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  Speaker 4: the throws. And then we saw what happens there. Like
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  Speaker 4: at least with Joey Agilar, I'll say, there hasn't been
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  Speaker 4: a throw where I'm like, man, I don't know, that's questionable, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like now's there's been like you know, some things that
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  Speaker 4: weren't perfect, but you know, but I mean, at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day, I'm not questioning a lot of
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  Speaker 4: his decision making compared to what I saw with Carter Bradley.
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  Speaker 1: But you got to go through the whole body. It's
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  Speaker 1: what have they done in the off season, what have
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  Speaker 1: they done in training camp? And we can't put too
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  Speaker 1: much into these preseason games.
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  Speaker 2: We just can't.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like the decision made in Cleveland. Everybody's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how do they make that decision? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the decision has been made from April May June July August.
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  Speaker 1: Who's been better on the field, and you guys have
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  Speaker 1: been there more than me. Who's been better on the field?
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  Speaker 1: Carter Bradley or Agalar?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like, listen when you talk about the
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  Speaker 4: third and four string quarterbacks, Pete, like, I think it's
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  Speaker 4: right right, And for me, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like I just think there's a little more upside with
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  Speaker 3: Agilar at least from in a game. I like to
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  Speaker 3: see someone that can get in there, be confident, go
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  Speaker 3: through his reads. He's not that pocket whoever's playing a
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  Speaker 3: line at that point in the game. He seemed comfortable,
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  Speaker 3: which was impressive for me to see. And I guess
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  Speaker 3: I like to think that there may be is something
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  Speaker 3: they could make out of that. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: we know.
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  Speaker 1: Who, we know who Kai's cutting when I'm previewing.
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  Speaker 3: That's where my.
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  Speaker 4: Three but Pete and I can't wait to get in
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  Speaker 4: this with you, man, because see that this is where
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  Speaker 4: we're going to be disagreeing a lot, because I put
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  Speaker 4: so much more emphasis on these preseason games, even though
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  Speaker 4: they not not necessarily that I know, but like, for instance,
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  Speaker 4: we'll break it down later. But Durfy and Brian Thomas junior.
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  Speaker 4: I think Brian Thomas Junior, in terms of what he's
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  Speaker 4: been able to do with the lights on in preseason games,
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  Speaker 4: has been far greater than Durfy. But you can sit
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  Speaker 4: here and say, well, Durphy and practic this, you know
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  Speaker 4: it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: B't even better in practice though, because.
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  Speaker 3: PTJ with a WYS been great in practice as well.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe the same off a little bit Dirfy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Boys of Summer usually tail off. And
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  Speaker 1: I always call them the Boys of Summer because they
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it many a time, and you know this
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  Speaker 1: Austin a guy burst onto the scene and then he's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god. Then the paths go on and next
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  Speaker 1: thing to get some more physical and he slows down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, and so I always call him
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  Speaker 1: the Boys of Summer. I like it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're getting into it here on Happy Hour
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  Speaker 3: coming up. We're gonna get started on our fifty three
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  Speaker 3: man roster. Will tell you what we think they might
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  Speaker 3: go with next week. This is Jaguars Happy A represented
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  Speaker 5: I'm ready to I'm ready to go. And you can
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: just tell about just by today being like a little
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: jaw food practice, or it's like we need to fine
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: tune everything, like everything needs to look like how it's
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: going to look week one, like all the little little
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: communication eras that you know, we don't make it. It's
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: like that's overwhere it's time to lock in and it's
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: time to get this thing going.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's ready in the.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Home stretch of training camp. But we're just at the
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• 14:22
  Speaker 3: So we are back. We're getting ready for two joint practices,
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: but cutdown Day is going to be on Sunday at
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: six this year. It's a little bit earlier than normal,
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: and we are going to do our best to predict
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: what we think the final fifty three are going to be.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Pete doesn't think it'll be too hard. I think we
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: can do it too, because it's a fun game. So
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: we're gonna start it with some of the uh I
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: like to call gimmes or a lock at least because
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: there is no other punter, kicker, or long snapper on
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: this team. So I'm marking down our first three as
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: our specialists, and then we will go from there. Pete,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: let's start QBS. You keep in two or three, dude,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: keeping too, And so for those keeping track and Trevor Lauren, Yes, I.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Think Trevor's I think Trevor.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Is the right to be on the team.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: I think he's earned the right at the lock.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't seen him in the preseason that much,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: but I think we're give him the benefit of the
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: doubt there.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Here's hoping. Okay, So now let's go to running backs.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about this in the first block.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: We think four is what we're going with our three.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Let's count three now and then if we have a
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: spot or two we can go back to maybe we'll decide,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: okay about that, So your first two at least what
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I would do.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's do you want to do? C Rod and
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Basil Tuton are we don't know which one. It's kind
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: of one A, one B at this point, so I
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: think they're fair to say they're both.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I want to get into a little of that too.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Today.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: We'll talk out.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: You do, let's get into us.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I do, but this is going to be a committee
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: situation whatever they end up doing. So the Quinn Allen
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Junior currently not practicing. He has a soft tissue injury.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: All expectations are he'll be available, So I don't think
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: that's an IR candidate necessarily. But those would be my three, uh,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: if we were doing three, and then there's a little
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: bit of a discussion if we have to come back
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: and do more. But I think those are probably our
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: go to gimme threes if you.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Will, Yeah, those are the gimme threes, right, Austin, Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: hands down, without a doubt.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: All right, these are We're getting through the easy ones quick.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: We got we gotta get this going. Tight ends on
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the numbers, right, Yeah, I got the roster right in
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: front of me, and I've got some numbers down, so
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: we'll we'll keep track and then we'll go through and
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: see where we have to tweak if we have to
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: move anybody around. Tight ends. I think they're going to
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: pick four or do you think three?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I saw some people keep three. I keep four.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I think I think Marris stays on the roster, So
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: he's the one two rookies.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, the two rookies.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I think Morris ober Hunter Long.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Every time I think that Hunter Long does something in
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: practice or like like surprise, I would keep quitting Morse
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: as well, just special teams alone. And I know that's
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, at a certain point you're like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just keeping people for special teams. But in terms
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of blocking and what he would be utilized for, I'd
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: imagine because they're going to use Brenton Strange and and
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the other two rookies, if they were going to use
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: them in the past game, it would be one of them.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And keep in mind last year too, when Breton
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Strange went out, Morris really stepped in nicely. They ran
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of that split zone and Morris had no
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: problem blocking that up. Now, not as dependable in the
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: receiving game, but I think when you talk about that
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: fourth height end, you're talking about a guy that's going
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: to be a willing blocker and help out in the
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: run game. I think that's Quentin Morris over Hunter Long.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: So I would take quit Morrison before.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: If Stranger Borcier gets hurt, you still have to have
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a second blocker, correct.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's right. Okay, so we got through some
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: of the easy ones. Let's go to wide receiver now.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: And this is where I think Travis Hunter really helps
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: you out because I'm not really going to count him
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: as a wide receiver in my group. I would count
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: him in the dB group. He'll primarily play there anyway.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: So I think that helps you out because there's two
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: rookies that have really shined so far in Josh Cameron
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and CJ. Williams. And now it's not an either or
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: situation where maybe if you did have Hunter then it
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: would be a little more difficult.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So and this is meat he cut too, but way,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: come on, we don't even have to debate it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Well, Also, you might end up getting because Jacoby Myers
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: now has a splint on his hand, on his thumb,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: So I don't know how long that's going to be either.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's automatically going to be on the roster,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: of course, but like if, I don't know if he's
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: an IR candidate. We haven't heard anything more on that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: He came out for the game, he wasn't going to
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: be playing, but he had a splint on his thumb,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: and and Liam Cohen said he jammed it up at
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: practice and he hasn't practiced since and he's still wearing that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: So I am These are the kind of question marks
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: we get into it, and you know you're trying to
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: find someone ex which might be an extra spot, but
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I have to worry about it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's what is a couple of weeks he'll be back.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's a I don't think
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: that's one that keeps him out for a long period
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: So I think five.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's it. Yeah, I'm just gonna go with
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: the lap here. I'm saying Jacoby Myers, Parker Washington, Brian
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, Josh Cameron, and then C. J. Williams.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And then and then the question becomes, who's the number one?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Do they go that route sometimes Trevor Lawrence likes to
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: shread the ball around.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: But who who has been the best player in the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: off season?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: There's no question about that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I got talking about the dude who has uh, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: basically sleeps over here every.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Single night.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: At the table right now, having a sleepover. I'm not
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: even sure. Dude's always here.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been their best player.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: He lives here.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the number one wide receiver.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Yes he is.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Now, Pete, are they going to pay like a one
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: wide receiver?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I think eventually?
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well correction, he's not getting paid like the number
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: one wide receivers.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: He's making Flowers money. I got you.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: He's not getting you know that kind of money Smith
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and Jigba and Chase and Jefferson London.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But Pete, does that get done before the season starts?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Got Like, if they're both smart, which I think they are,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I think they get that done.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to get done.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I mean because a injury risk for him and they
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: can tag them and for them. If he goes out and.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Has big numbers, then the price goes up. So there's
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a risk on both sides. So I think they'll get
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it done.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: But Peter, are you gonna talk about the franchise take
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: with Parker Washington?
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: You might?
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: You could.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: What's the number look like for that?
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: That's got to be a pretty hefty number.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still then you would give you another
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: year to put improve it again.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: If you can't get it done, if it's irrational right now,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: then you could always say, Okay, we're not going to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: do that. We can tag you after this season, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the risk for him is injury. And here's the other
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: risk for him. The numbers might not be gaudy because
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they got a lot of weapons and they're gonna use
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of tight ends and everything else.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So I think he's got to be careful with that too.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You know how this league is. If Parker Washington has
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: forty five catches and eight nine touchdowns and you hit
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the market, is that a mega deal. Probably not. If
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: he has eight and twelve touchdowns, then that is so
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you gotta be careful a bitt that too.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So I do think they're gonna get done.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I think they'll ultimately settle on a number that's fair
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to both sides.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, and Pete, I agree with you, man, But
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you got to keep in mind as well, like before
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it used to be you pay the wide receiver based
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: off a resume, and now you pay a wide receiver
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: wide receiver one money based off what he could be.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: You saw with Christian Watson, you've seen with Alec Pierce, right,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: So there is a little bit of a problem where
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: if you don't pay Parker Washington before the season starts,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and let's just say he goes out there and he
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: does what he think he can do, even though he's
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: sharing targets with everybody, and maybe he's around one thousand
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: yards of the season. Sure, I guess the franchise, hey
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: could be an optional, But there's gonna be teams out there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: They're gonna be willing to overpay for him then, just
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: based off of what he could look like on their team.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to have that conversation, you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: but you mentioned Pierce.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Pierce was an unrestricted free agent, so that's different. You know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you're not He got out on the market and then
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: then they then they.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Did the deal with him.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: He was going to be an unrestricted free agent and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: they didn't tag them. So I think this is one
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: of those situations where if Parker Washington were smart, his
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: agent were smart, he would do a deal. And I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: think Christian Watson got twenty five.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I think something and that when he got something like that.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think Christian Watson is really good. But Christian Watson's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: problem is he hasn't been on the field all.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: The time, right, and he's still got that kind of money.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Correct, So I think I think he'll ultimately end up
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: with a deal that's maybe in that vicinity, But I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to get to that well.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, but I think it has to be like
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: it has to be around the twenty three twenty four million?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Would you take Christian Watson or Parker You.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Asked me this yesterday, and guess what. I think it
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: says a lot about Christian Watson when they drafted Matthew
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Golden in the first round, Like, what is that saying?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I think Christian Watson's better?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, go ahead, I think Parker Washington's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: really good. Sure, I think Christian Watson is a better
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: deep threat.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: When he's available, maybe, yeah, I mean like that's.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: No availability, now, that's a whole another here's when he's
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: on the field, And I get it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Like Christian Watson, he's he's got the wheels. He is
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the down field threat for sure. But there's also wide
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: receivers out there like DeVonta Adams and his prime, DeAndre
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Hopkins and his prime who are better route runners than
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: actually burners, and they can help on a team a
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: lot too. Like I see Parker Washington as the best
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: route runner by far on this team, there's nobody that
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I've seen that can cover him. And that's including Travis
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Hunter so far.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Now, now when you look at, you know, the Jacobe
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Myers contract, I think he's going to get more than that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Initially I didn't think he would. By the way, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: didn't think he would get more than that.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Well, Parker's I mean, he's got He's got to go
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: in there and say I need more than that, right
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of course, Like for sure, Well, he.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Is everything you want in a football player.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, he loves it, he lives it, he's there all
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: He's made himself into a really good football player. I'm
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: not gonna say great, he's great. Is reserved for the truth,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the Chase and Jefferson and Smith and Jigba
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and Puka.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: They're great.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: But he's flashed that and and so maybe this is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the year where he does become great and for him
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: then the then taking a D would be okay, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have taken this deal. But if something happens
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't get the numbers, then he's not great.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Then there's also that risk. So it's a tough negotiation.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You're paying for a small body of work, but you're
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: also paying them for his punt returns too.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you have to keep them on
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: punt returns.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Every time people bring this up to me, I'm like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: that's part of this. He's dynamic because of that as well.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Like if you take that away, and I understand they
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: want him to maybe focus more on offense, but that's
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: he's so influential. I just yeah, I feel like you
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: need it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: No, I hear you, kay, But I'm gonn bring up
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: what I brought up last week. How many one how
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: many wide receiver one A, one b's are returning punts
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: in the NFL?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I mean the.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Kail used to do it sometimes used to.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you don't do it all the time, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he's going to get spotted in there for sure.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I feel like it still has to be in the mix,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: like I, unless they have someone they've developed that it
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: is going to be able to.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: But he's the one.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: He is one on this team. He is the one
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: receiver right now.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Well, you gotta pay one, gotta keep one around. All right.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: We're gonna return and we'll talk a little bit about
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: the O line and what we think that'll end up
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: looking like on this fifty three man roster. We're here
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: on Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Lumps Friday's game
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: against the Bucks on Friday, brought to you by Wilson's
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Children's Hospital, the official Children's Hospital of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Welcome back Cannati, Stevens, Pete Prisco and of course Austin
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Lane with us for a happy hour here in Hyundai Studios.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And we started to put together what we think the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: fifty three man roster is going to look like. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: now we're turning it over to the offensive line. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: went ahead, I made some decisions for us as a group.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna tell you I put eight people
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: down already, so I jumped the gun. These are in
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: alphabetical order for you guys, so Ezra Cleveland, Robert Hainsey,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Anton Harrison, Walker, Little Wyatt, Milam, Jonah Manheim, Emmanuel Pregnant
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and Cole van Land And those are my eight. Now
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: we need to decide do we want nine or ten?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: And then some question marks. I didn't put Patrick McCarry
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: on here because we haven't seen him practice yet and
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: he's not officially on IR or anything like that. We
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: know he did have a back procedure in the off season,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: but I haven't seen him participating in practice. He's in shorts,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: he's out there, but he's not really working out a ton,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: So I think that might be a little longer term
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: than we think. Colvid Landon obviously got acted off, activated,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: off pup list. This week. He's back at practice doing
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: individual drills. We'll see if he starts week one or not,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: but he's back in the mix for me, so I
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: think that's pretty obvious. But what do we think they'll
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: do with McCarey, because I don't think it makes if
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the money wise, they're not going to cut him, right Pete.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: They can't really cut him. They can hope he retired,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna do that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Hush.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean seriously, if you were him, why
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: would you retire You could get all that money.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not being silly.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he did what, I gave all that
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: money back, I'm sure the organization wouldn't mind if he did.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: If he's not going to be hurt.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yet, right so, so, I mean that's the for the organization,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the ideal scenarios he retires.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Patrick, we can have his ceremony for you, We can
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: have that jersey hanging up in the rafters.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And the ideal scenario is he plays on and cashes
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: those checks, which the reality is he's probably even if
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he didn't play, you cash the checks. So I don't
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: think he's going anywhere. But I don't think he's going
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to be much of a factor this year. That back
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: was a problem last year. Yes, that last year.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Anyone goes away, so it's all the kudos to him.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: He played through it and he was not. Remember in
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Denvery went out of the game. He was really struggling
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: with that back. So another it's always it always seems
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that the right guard position in Jacksonville has tough guys
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to fight through injuries all the remember Sheriff.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Every week he would go down in game, you would
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: think he was dead almost and he'd walk off for
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: one play and come right back. Very tough, but battle through.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think he's on to start the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: season for sure.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: He's not on that, I don't think so. I think
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: just we haven't seen him active at all.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So for me, that's so we got to get a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: nine and maybe right, So we want nine or ten
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: on the list.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: On the list, this is actually the guy that the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: guy that got in the trade has to be.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Daniel.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Do you keep him just because you made him just
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: trade to pick?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I think personal you have to yeah guard, Yeah yeah,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I think you.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Sacrifice to get him, like yeah, a six.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Round yeah he yeah. Plus, isn't he backing up at
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: left guard right now on the depth chart?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I think he was the other day he was backing
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: up at left guard, so I think he I think
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think he stays.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, do we want to keep nine or Tenchuma?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: And it depends where Van Lannon is LANs all the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: way back and ready to go a week one, Yep,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you go nine. I don't think you can keep nine.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: So then you because you're Walker, Little could play tackle
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: or guard. Okay, Cleveland can play tackle or guard in
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the pinch, Monhunt can play garden center, so you have
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: some can play both guards, so you have some versatility there.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Harrison go to right tackle. We had to he can
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: play left tackle. Little could play left tackle, not well,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: but he could play it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: We saw that experiment a little bit. Yeah, so then
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: tub was the odd man out then here right, so
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: was gonna let go.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I would me personally, I would keep nine and not
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: keep all.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Right, Kyle, you gonna to tell him I saw my job.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: They don't.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: They don't pay me enough for that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I promise you that I'm not doing the Cup meeting.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely not.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little I was in charge, you'd be
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: kicking McCarry in the bag.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I Patrick back right there at the right at the
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: L five a little bit.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of these young guys, because we
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: looked at or we've talked about what we've seen. Obviously,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Pregnants jumped the list. He's been impressive to everybody.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: But they were going on a lot about Wyatt Milam
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and Jonah Manheim, and he seems to just kind of
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: have jumped over that. Have you heard anything either way on.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: That, Pete who's been going in on?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Wyatt Milam was someone they picked pretty high last
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: year and kind of dealt with injury. And I haven't
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: heard much about him, not in a bad way or
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: not any negative. Just like you know, someone's kind of
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: kind of blends in during training camp. I just haven't
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: heard much on him lately.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think he's in the mix, right.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Cleveland's obviously going to start at
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: right guard, I think, and so Milam would be the guy.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: If Cleveland went over to left guard, then Mylam would
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: probably go in.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I've heard. Look, at some point Monheim and Mylam are
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: going to be playing. They are. You know, Monheim is
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: more physical than Hainsey. Hainesy probably knows the offense better.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: So you got to make a decision. Excuse me, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: got a frog my throat, but I don't know.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I just think, yeah, and I agree with you. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: there's always that process of O line as well, where yeah,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: it's nice to have a veteran presence, but you got
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: to develop the young guys and put them in at
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: some point as well. And I think, you know, Monheim's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the center of the future, I'm sure for this team.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And the future might be like by October.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: By the way, well, if he gets hurt and Monheim
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: goes in, might not get your drought back, right.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I think he might tend to job well, and that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: a possibility. But right now where it stands, Pregnant is
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: gonna be the starting left guard, right, So, like, how
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: how many young guys do you essentially want right until
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: you're a little more confident what you have. You know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: you don't have to try too many young guys out there.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: But you wanted to be more physical.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Sure, so if you want to run the ball more physical,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: who's the more physical center Monheim.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Without a doubt. But and we went over this thing
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: a little bit last week. Like in the center position,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: you don't need a road grader for a center. You
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: you need a savvy veteran who can cut people off,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: who can call it, call it blitzes, call the slides,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: all the schemes, everything like that. So I air on
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: the experience more than the physic county. Right now, they're
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: center position, especially if I have a rookie left guard
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: and pregnant, your right takeover.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: As well, which is why by October, you know, maybe
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: by October Monheim takes over.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: What's your starting five in October?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you it would be.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: It would be Harrison, Pregnant, Manheim, Cleveland, and Van Lannon.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Is this A's last contra?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I think Cleveland wants a new deal too.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I hear that he's playing. I was just wondering because
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: he's playing like he wants one. He's his camp and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: they've been really impressed. I think Tony was saying this,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: he's very impressed with the camp that they've seen out
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: of him, and uh, he's he's looking for it for sure,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: and we'll see if they resign him. I guess I
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: don't know know where all the money's going. I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: see how you sign him well with the three young
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: three four young guys were just named, I don't know
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: how you do either, just because well, there's only so
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: much money to go around, and you have young talent
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: that you don't have to pay as much money to,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So why.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Would you, Especially if Anton Harrison balls out like then
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: the poket is going to be on him. I left tackle.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have on So, yeah, you gotta pay. You
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: gotta pay Anton. You're not going to pay Cleveland. I
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: can't imagine this scenario with Cleveland gets a new deal
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: from Jacksonville.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Which is why you might have a transition there too
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: at some point.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Now, if he's playing well, he stays in the lineup,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: But if he has.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It for the rest of the year, yeah, pick up
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: here or there, then you might put myleom into that lineup,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: all right, so we're taking nine offensive.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Line run nine. So as of right now, we have
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: two quarterbacks, three running backs, five wide receivers. That's ten.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Then we have four tight ends fourteen, and then we
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: have nine offensive linemen, so that's twenty three. And then
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: we have our three specialists. So we are at twenty
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: six of our fifty three have been chosen, so we.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Need twenty seven. We probably would have one more on
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: offense somewhere.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I think he probably he could probably add it that
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: extra running back, like once we get through it, or
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: if yeah, you know mcarry will come back at some
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: point you could use. If he's good to go or whatever,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: that'll be your tenth guy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So can you kick him to the back?
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Pee, I'm not a violent woman.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I would never just an urban Meyer kick right to
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the back.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Huh oh Yeah, would have kicked him in the bag.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Was ruthless.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: JP would do whatever needs to be. What does it
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: protect the scene, whatever you gotta do. Yeah, he would
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: have done it. Absolutely. I think when I'm looking at
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: this lineup, I'm very curious because they're so Liam Cohenes
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: really excited about what he's going to do with the
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: tight ends now that they can run like bigger sets
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: and run with those guys. I'm just curious. We haven't
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: seen it much yet, Like he didn't run it in
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: the preseason obviously not going to it's preseason games whatever,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: But how does that affect like the O line, Like
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: do you want the younger guys in there? Is it
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: easier to move with that? Like schematically? Does that affect
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: anything with the O line?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're asking me, I think because the
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: way I see this playing out for this Jaguars offense
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: is it's going to be depending on who they're playing. Okay, right,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: so it's going to be Okay, do they are you
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: playing it's a great a defensive line? Are they a
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: weak defensive line? How's the linebacking core? All that stuff?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: So I think by a week by week basis, you
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: might get more thirteen personnel or you might get more
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: eleven personal depending who you're playing against. I'm gonna say
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: that I want the more experienced guys in there in
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: terms of when you're trying to rotate guys and you know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: rotate the different looks and if you're going thirteen personnel,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I want an offensive lineman that is accustomed to the change.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: What he has to do and then go forward from there.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I don't want a young guy that's eager and obviously
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: and everything. I'm excited, but you know, it could maybe
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: get kind of bogged download with some of these calls,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: because this is gonna be a complicated offense, right, and
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: then I'm gonna air on the side of experience.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to err on the side of who's the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: better player and who's tougher. That's how I'm gonna air
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on that, Okay, because and Pregnon deserves the right to start.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's more physical. He's going to help that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: run game. He's just a physical, physical player. And all
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you look at them coming off the
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: bus and you look at that left side. You got
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Harrison next to Pregnant's put you on the left side to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Look like you do you think the cool guys? Do
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: you think the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson's gonna be like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: who's coming off the bus?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Is that a pregnant starting spot?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: You gotta get the first protect off the bus. Size,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: that's correct, But we're talking about squad like j P.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: We're gonna bring that whole twenty year old thing back.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: What they looks like, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: that old yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, okay, heart comes school agg you
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: know how yeah yeah yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: But but no, so I think I.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Think pregnant and Harrison. To me, that's your left side,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and that's your left side for a long time. It
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: should be the center again. Eventually, I think you get
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the more physical guy. Maybe you start with the guy
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: who's more cerebral. Like you said, Austin, the right guard
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: will be Cleveland and then the right tackle be Van Landa. Now,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: these thirteen personnel sets, it's the flavor of the month
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Sean McVay did it. Everybody's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: gonna copy it. Here's a couple of things about thirteen personnel.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: And I said this to a couple of coordinators. When
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you go to I said it to Lilliam Cotto, when
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you go to thirteen, What does that do to your offense?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It makes it slower you're taking and.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Not only that, who's going to be doing the bitching because.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Someone yeah, somebody's going to come off the field.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So when you're in thirteen, which wide receiver
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: is on the field and who's not.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I think you can go between Parker Washington or you're
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: gonna go between Brian Thomas Junior. Because if you look
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: at what the Rams did last year, they used Puka
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: sometimes and then the red zone they used Devonza Adams.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Devonza Adams had a lot of his touchdowns from thirteen
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: personnel because the guy's a great route runner and he's
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: got sized Yeah yeah. Now the attribute for Parker Washington
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: that's not the best thing is he's kind of on
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: the shorter side.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Right, So if you're in the red zone and you're thinking, okay,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: thirteen personnel, let's run a play action, get him one
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: on one coverage. I mean, Parker Washington is a great
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: route runner, but he's not gonna win a lot of
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: jump balls. So then do you air on the side
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: of Brian Thomas Junior.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: There Brian Thomas juniors on the field no situations than
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Parker Washing does not. Then all of a sudden, you
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: go back to the contract talk. He's not gonna be
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: on the field as much. Sure, and you're gonna have complaining,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have bitching, and you're gonna have moaning and growing.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Not just that you're gonna have another twenty million dollar
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: a year wide receiver.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Who's also not on the field, Jacoby yep.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: But I mean we get here talking about thirteen personnel.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Who's on the field on twelve personnel? Who are you
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: taking off? If you have two of us them? That's
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, we're probably gonna see more twelve
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: personnel than thirteen personnel. So if we're talking about twelve
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: personnel and I'm Parker Washington's people and everything, am I
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: gonna be upset if I see Parker coming off the field,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: because you know, let Jacobe Myers come off the field.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: You just paid him. Brian Thomas Junior's got the speed,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: So who's coming off?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And I told him, calling this, you go, you're gonna
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: have bitching and moaning and problems. And he says, it's
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a pretty good problem to have, though, isn't it? And
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I said, until you got to deal with it, it
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: is till.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: It's not well.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Also, what about that that two way guy that you
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: got to mix into the offense as well? That's right,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: they do have another one that you promise he's gonna
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: play both sides the football, which I believe there would be.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't be on a those would be on like
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: when the third and long in the red zone sometimes,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and long He's going to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: be a part of that. But I think you're gonna
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: have unhappy wide receivers if you use a lot of
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: twelve and thirteen personnel.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is that's not a dramatic group
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: or anything notoriously or yeah, dramatic, no.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I hear you, man, But you know what
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: kind of sounds is that? Winning football games? And if
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: they're they're running the teams. Yeah, And if they're running
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: the football and they're winning football games, the establishing a
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: line of scrimmage like yeah, maybe Parkers Camp is going
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: to be a little disappointed, right because now we're talking
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: about millions of dollars on the line. But I think
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: they'll buy in. It's not like a bunch of s.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: You can't compare every wide receiver.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: To a J. Brown, Like, yeah, to compare him to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: a wide I'm gonna compare him to a wide receive
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: coach who's now a wide receiver coach in the natural
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Football League. I know he's one of the all time
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: great wide receiver coaches in this league.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: He's done a great.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Job building that Vikings wide in the room into one
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of the best in the league.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mean and mean and not mean.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Sorry sorry, yeah yeah, And you.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Know what, and John Osher will test to this when
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: we were covering the Jaguars and Keenan would never ever
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: ever admit this. Right now, if Keenan caught nine passes
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and thirty yards and a touchdown or
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: two and they lost, he was happier than when he
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: caught three for seventeen and they won. And he's now
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver in this league and wide receiver coach
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: in this league. They're all the same, they're all cup
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in the same cloth. They want the damn ball, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I want my receivers wanting the ball.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: You have to have part of the deal.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, I understand that. And that's the
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: reason why Jacobe Myers is here and not still in
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Las Vegas. He essentially said he doesn't want to be
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: in Las Vegas anymore because he wasn't getting the football.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: So I understand there's some ego involved here, but they
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: also understand what it is like. You don't have a
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Jamar Chase aj Brown situation where it's like you have
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: the one alpha where he has to get ten to
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: fifteen targets the game because everyone's gonna draft him in
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: the first round. And fantasy football, we don't have that here.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: And if any player in the locker room is self aware,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: they're gonna know it as well, like they understand what's up?
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Do you have Parker Washington, Brian Thomas Junior, Travis Hunter,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: and Jacobe Myers and they all know that any given Sunday,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: one of those guys move for one hundred yards.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Now, let's spend Let's flash this forward a little bit. Okay,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: we're in week three. They're using a lot of thirteen
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: twelve personnel. Parker Washington has eight catches on the season
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: with one touchdown, and he doesn't have a DOW and
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have his contract done. Happy are they three?
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: And oh?
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not happy. I mean that they're not happy?
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Am I happy? Are the day? Three?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And O?
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I don't take him in fantasy football.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Let's just say they're three and oh, he's still not happy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: He goes, you can't spend three and oh you can
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: never in your life be able to spend three and oh.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Winning is winning, all right, We're gonna take a break
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: quick here. When we return, we'll check in with the
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Microsoft co pilot and talk a little bit about what
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: the practice squad might end up looking like. Welcome back
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: into j War's Happy Hour, presented by Dead Home Loans.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Time now to check in with co Pilot, brought to
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: you by Microsoft. We're going to check in with our questions.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: We'll see if CENTI and JP is still with us.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Oh no, it's so we've moved on that. It's okay.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Ai catches up quick. So I asked how many players
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: are on the NFL practice squad of any given team,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: and of course co Pilot answers for us, they can
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: have up to seventeen. That includes the IPP player, which
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: is the International Pathway Program player, so get sixteen extra spots.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: So that's why cutting the fifty three is not as
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: dramatic as it used to be, right, because there's so
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: many people that they can put on the practice squad,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: which is great for development purposes. Austin, is there anybody
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: that's maybe a name lower down that you think would
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: be a great developmental guy, or you've seen a flash
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: or two from that you want to see maybe if
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: they could well move along.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, we we're gonna have this conversation a second
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: with the defensive line.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: But when you tolunched there.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you talk about Zach Durfy and Brian
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, I mean, I'm not sure both those guys
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: can can make the active roster, and I think one
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: of those you might have to hopefully hide on the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: practice I hope they don't get picked up because Durfy
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: have a situation where he was highly coveted. He had
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: injuries out of college, but teams know who he is.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Doesn't have necessarily like a lot of film in the
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: preseason games, but people know who he is. And then
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: you have Brian Thomas Junior, undrafted free agent who's really
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: made a name for himself. I feel like in these
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: preseason games where if teams put on the film like
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: he's going to pop out a little bit. So you
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: kind of got to help. I feel like, and we'll
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: break it down in a second, you got to hide
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: one of those guys hopefully in the practice squad.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think those in the two, and of those two,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think Durfy's probably the more logical candidate, right now
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: for the practice squad.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you can probably keep him there.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot about him with the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: prospect X and stuff like that, but I still think
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: he's I think you could put him there and still
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: work with him for the season.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been what we expected it to be, and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: once the pads went on and on in the preseason
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: at least, because there was a lot of hype of
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: him in the offseason and it's kind of tailed off
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit now there's still some ability there and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: he's kind of lost, so you would like to keep
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: him around, of course.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I mean he's showing glimpses he and I spin move.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I saw care seventh trond pick at the end of
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: the day. I understand there's injuries the situations that go
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: into it, but he at that level, like you are,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: developmental to a certain degree, and I think has there
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: been Is he built like he should be? Absolutely like
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: he's physically should be able to play the position. It's
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: just more getting him up to speed into what they
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: want to do.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: What about the other rookie if you I mean he
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: hadn't done a lot either.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: No, and then that who was is it Horn that
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: had like the end around where Williams kind of got
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Williams got sucked in a little bit. And that's really
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: his contain right there from what I saw in film
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: watching it back, and that was kind of on him.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I get it. It's a hard play to stop, right
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: but and he hasn't seen a lot of that, but
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: that's on him. And I was just going to say
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: that exactly, do like out of like the politics point
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: of it. If you're James Gladstone, like, are you gonna
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: feel comfortable with putting that guy on the practice squad
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: and maybe losing him? Like then it's a waste of
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: a draft pick.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: So I mean you have to feel pretty strongly to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: undo that anyway. And I don't know big you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: physical to use him.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be on the roster.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I think that's fair to say. I'm curious if they'll
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: be able to I know we talked to somen about
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: the running backs. We might end up adding another one,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: but if Jamari Taylor can stick around, I think he's
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: someone potentially. Those running backs are just so like prone
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to get hurt. For me, I just feel like you
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: can always just throw a couple on there. They're not
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: a high commodity, like just have some extra people out there.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But I like what they have in the room, especially
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: because I wasn't sure what it was going to look like.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to get you guys into a
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: full etn blowout. I'm just saying I didn't know what
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: the room is gonna look like, and I've been pleased
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: with what.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: We don't know what that room is gonna look like yet,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: we don't, we have no idea.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: No can you imagine if Travis h Chen was here
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: right now, we don't have to be worried about anything.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: We wouldn't get any tough yards between the tack.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Will Also we're talking about mouse to feed. Do you
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: think he'd be happy? How's he going to get the
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: ball too? When they're trying to throw it around the yard.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: So there's there's that to go around as well.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: And we're going to talk more about that because I
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: got some thoughts on the running back position and I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: think where they're headed I think might be something that
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do, and so.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: We're talking about that. Yeah, Oh I am Pete's boy.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: That's bad news for Touton.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I thought we're on the two train.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I love toot Okay. I think Toton needs to get
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: as many carries as he can handle because he's a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: home run threat, and in this league, there aren't a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: lot of home run threats, guys who can put their
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: foot in the ground and put the fear in those
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: defenses that he's going to go sixty five yards.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Rodriguez isn't that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: He's a grinder. He's a pounder. You want those, You
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: need him when you need late in the game. You
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: want third and three.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: That's what you want to give the ball to Rodriguez.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: But I think if you want to get to where
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you need to be as a running team, Houton needs
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: to be the running back and he needs to get
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: his carries and he can catch the ball out of
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the backfield. You can throw it to him in the
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: screen game. He's got explosive ability. Get him the football.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: It's two time, so says Pete. Stay with us here.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: We got a second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour coming
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: your way. We're gonna keep it real on the preseason games.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: We'll finalize this fifty three man roster. All that coming
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: up on Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars digital network.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: You got to maximize these ops and the content. The
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: continued connuity chemistry is so important that every single time
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: we step out here there has to be real intentionality
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: and not just Okay, this is another training camp practice
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: like that, Ain't it anymore?
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Guys?
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: You know we're building towards something, We're sharpening our EDGs
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: towards something. And I thought, like Chris Rodriguez today, he
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: practiced that way, and you know, we got to continue
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: to get guys to do the same.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's a second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after game,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: after the game, and during the game. And we're gonna
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: get back into things. We went over the preseason game
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: number two a little bit, but mostly been focused on
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: what we think this fifty three man roster is going
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: to look like. So here's the opening drive for hour two,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: presented by Target zero. Let's get everyone home safely. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Jaguars felt to the Panthers that was not great. But
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: they've got two joint practices coming up and those are
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: gonna be huge for them this week. And I think
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: they've probably made some of their decisions so far about
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: what this team's gonna look like. But at this point,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: it's about the whole team putting in that effort and
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: getting some work done because they're not gonna see it
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: likely in the in the preseason game. So getting as
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: much work done as you can in these joint practices.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: But let's pick up where we left off. We're gonna
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: start on the defensive side of the football now as
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: we get to this fifty three man roster. If you've
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: been listening in the first hour, we picked the offense already.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: So we've got twenty six of our fifty three filled
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: out and we're gonna keep it going. So we're gonna
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: do defensive backs now. Again, I cheated and I put
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: some names in already. So Montera Brown, Travis Hunter, on,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson, Jarry and Jones, Jordan Lewis and Eric Murray
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: are on six of my DB's. Do we think they
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: will do ten?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Eat?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna do ten.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: You think they do nine?
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: But nine?
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we need to get well, what's this Ramsoll Yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: he's in right, Rams will be on there. Yeah, uh, Husky,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: that's not that's that takes you that eight and now
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you need another.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Corner, which I think it's gonna be Muhammad.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: What about well, you need ran lane for special teams?
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Wait, we do? We got Jon Jones on there.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Jones, Yeah, so that we have right now, you only
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: have four corners, but they're gonna play.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: They play like nickel and they use them differently, don't they.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: They're gonna use a lot of dime too this year,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: So you need another corner. I think that's just four corners.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be Muhammad. He was up and
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: down in that Saints game. I thought he was probably
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: the most dependable thing against the Panthers.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: So you take your cutting brass well then, so yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: if you keep Muhammad, that's five corners, and then you're
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: gonna keep six safeties.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: That takes you to eleven because what's safety? And you're
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: not cutting any of those safeties.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Are you.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to cut Jalen Husky or
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Kayla Bransaw.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: And you absolutely.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Right, you absolutely him Son.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: You at eleven five, you're keeping Murray Johnson, Ransaw, Wayne.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: And Husky's five, So it's five safeties.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Wait, Antonio Johnson too, County, I said Johnson, Yeah, Murray, Johnson, Ransaw,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Lane Husky, Husky.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: That's five. Yeah, so ten total, So.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: You want and then after that you want Montery Brown,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis, Jaron Jones, Travis Hunter Is we're counting as
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: a CB, yep, and.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Then you want and then whoever winsm or braswell, right.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: And I'm taking Muhammad, I think, but I think that
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: or or if somebody got cut off somebody else's roster.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: There's also that possibility too.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Is that a position group where you can kind of
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: pick and pull and you would feel fine.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You can find guys, you can find guys, you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: if somebody is like a great special teams player or something. Okay,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: so that's ten.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: That is our ten. Yes we have ten dbs. Sorry
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: math is not a strong suit. All right, ten, This
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: is our ten. It's our final ten. Monteric Brown, Travis Hunter,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson, Caleb Bransaw, Jalen Husky, Jaron Jones, Jordan Lewis,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Eric Murray, Ray, On Lane jabarmahamma.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: That's pretty easy.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Other than Muhammad, eleventh, the off the corner, everything else
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: is pretty straightforward.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I think the question in there becomes who starts.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Correct because with your safeties.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, Murray will start, Johnson and Murray will start.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: So that's obvious. But then you're two who do you
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: go to like who's in next?
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Who who's the corners?
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Here?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Here's what Yes, what's corner is Hunter and Brown?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Then is it a battle between jar and Jones and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis or do you move Lewis outside? Here? Here's
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the problem this Jones.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: He has.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: He deserves to be on the field exactly.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: So that's why you have to You got to move
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: everybody around because you got to find a way. He's
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: a mall to you, gotta you gotta.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Find Here's the other thing though, guys, all four of
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: those guys can tackle or willing tacklers, so you can
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: play all four of them in a dime. And you're
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: in dime a lot, so I think they're gonna play.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: You don't have necessarily have to bring it extra safety
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: in or you could play for interesting.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: So you're thinking instead of bringing the extra safety down,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have that extra corner look like a Jerry
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: and Jones who obviously he's more physical, so you have right,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna correct, I got you.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: But if you okay, who deserves to be the starters?
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: That's the question the three if you're in the face, it's.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: So like arbitrary starters because they change him out so much.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: So they do.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: But but if you said, if you like who's your
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: guys is, does Jordan Lewis need to be the nickel?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I think you have to find a way to because
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: once again I think it's from like a being a
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: vocal leader and what and what he was brought in
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: there for. Yeah, you find him, you find somewhere to
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: use him. Which the way that it looks right now,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: is gonna be that nickel.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: So in that scenario, Travis Hunter's surely on the field,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: of course.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: So in that scenario, it's between Jarion Jones and Brown
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: who you paid, So, yeah, it's.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Gonna be Brown.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's Onetereric I think so Jarry and Jones.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Despite all the fact that he might have been, he's
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: been as good as anybody at the cornerback in on
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the field. That's weird to me because this is a
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: team an organization that preachers will play the best player.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I think you just it might be one of those
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: he doesn't you know, to use a bad well term,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: he doesn't start, but he comes in in five minutes,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Like you know, they rotate him in quick enough that
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: maybe the it's not as much of an issue.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: He rotates out, well, he rotate him in and Nickel?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Do you rotate him in and from Montek?
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Well, where he's been playing has been Nickel, correct, So
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: then you'd bring out both.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you I think he's I think he can
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: be a really good outside corner if need be.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: But how do you justify paying Monteric Brown what you
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: pay him if you're just going to bring him out
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: for somebody else like that?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: But you've seen that got paid.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but but that was different though, right, Like it's
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: not Tammy Brown where you kind of took a chance
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: and you said, Okay, hopefully it works out here. This
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: is you know, this is Monteric Brown who really earned
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: his contract last season.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: He didn he played monter Blown played well last year. Yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: but has he even better in Jarred and Jones in
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the summer.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's a horse apiece. I
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: think it's debatable. Yeah, And if it's I'm going to
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: air on the side of the guy that you're paying
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: money to Right now.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: And by the way, the ey'd err on the guy
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: who's the better player and and who can cover better?
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Who could if you have to play man to man
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that you won't necessarily have to play a lot with
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Hunter on the other side.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Correct, But which one would be better?
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: In man?
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: The man is probably better.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is also I think I should point out
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: both the veteran guys on this team got hurt last year,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: so Murray missed a good chunk of time and Jordan
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Lewis Mitch the whole back end of the season.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: So this might be which is why you're going to
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: have all those young guys around.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this might a while, but again, that cornerback room
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: could be one that you can get a lot of
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: fun little complaining and moaning and growing in about too.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I always look at that on rosters. It's fun to see.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It's a pleasant problem, but it's fun to see.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: They don't have to bring in like a psychiatrist or
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: a therapist for this. Yeah, I mean, the wide receivers
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: are going to be in there.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's impossible, but I would say I've
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: been around some teams and this is not an overly
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: dramatic team by any means for the most part, like
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: a ton of divas around here.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: In tangibly rich is the word.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: But when you're when you're when you're wallets starting and.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Your money comes into it, everybody gets little.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Everybody's different about money. All right, let's do linebackers real quick.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: How many do you think they're going to keep?
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Six?
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I didn't make a graphic for this one,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: but Foyer is safe in my book, Oh yes, guard
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Deck it's safe, compete and or Ventral Miller.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I'm keeping a sere Abdul for specialty teams alone.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: So that's five. And I think normally I would say
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Jack Kaiser, but he still hasn't come back from his
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: knee thing yet, so you might even get an extra
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: spot out of this position group. So you got some options.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: If you want to keep Jalen McLeod, who was a
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: draft pick but I have not seen much from and
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: does not practice a ton, that's an option to keep
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: in the in the short term.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say, just i've seen that practice. And
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: if we're going to go with the Pete Prisco philosophy
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: of where you get your reps, in practice and you
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: make the team in practice. I feel like they got
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: they brought in.
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: He he looks the part, and he's on teams too,
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: so yeah, and he's around I think I think he's six,
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: all right, and then Kaiser's Look, it's not like Kaiser
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: was lighted up before he got hurt either.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So that's six. So now we get to drum roll
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: d line. Let's do this.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: That's sixteen right now.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: That's sixteen, so we got ten left currently. We got
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: some room to wiggle, but we got ten spots left.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just the starter, so you can correct.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: I put I put the dummy answers in? Which are
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Eric Arms, said Devon Hamilton, Josh Heinesell and Treyvon Walker.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Dickerson is a starter, so he's already in, so he's
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: your five. I would go j Green six for me,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Dan String l straight Ol seven, Regis Regius, Regis a
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Row Row Row is nine.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I'm taking Wesley Williams just because of where they drafted him.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: So that's ten. So that means you don't get Brian
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Thomas or Zach Durfy. Those are both your practice squad guys.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I'm taking. I'm putting the extra I'm taking eleven here, Kay.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: If I had it my way, I would take eleven
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: and I would put Brian Thomas Junr on that list.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you put Brian Thomas Junior on the list,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: you got to take somewhere from linebacker.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: You got to take to buy off or one of
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: the linebackers, and then I'll take to buy off, I guess.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: But we have six linebackers though, yeah.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: We have somebody.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: We have ten dbs, six linebackers, and we have how
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: many spots.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Do we have? We had ten, but if we add
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas or Zach Durphy that would be eleven.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: But how many know?
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: How many total spots do we have? On defense?
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: So we have seven?
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Were twenty six?
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had five safeties, five corners. Six.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Do we have twenty seven because we had twenty six already?
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: So then we have twenty seven?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would that would give us the extra So basically,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I think it comes down to whether you keep eleven
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: defensive linemen.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Or four running backs.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: M what would you do, Pete?
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I would keep eleven defensive lineman if I if I
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: think Thomas is gonna get plucked.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I think they like Brian Thomas Junior with a why
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: very much on defense. I think they're more concerned about
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: that as well, So I think that's the way they
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: would lean. Would you try to get a running back
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: or would you want no?
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Because I think and the pe kind of spoke on
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: this in the first segment where I think it's gonna
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: be easier to hide a running back than it is
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: easier to hide either Durfy or Brian Thomas j Everybody, yeah, yeah,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna have a feel for that. Like I
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: feel like Brian Thomas Junior is gonna be harder to
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: hide on that practice squad, So you put him on
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: the active roster. You put Zach Durfy on the practice squad. Now,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm wrong, maybe all the hype of him coming
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: out of college and then going to Jacksonville, but like
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: once again, I'm gonna I'm gonna rely on the tape
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: what we see in the preseason games, and Brian Thomas
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Juniors outplayed him. So I'm gonna have Brian Thomas Juni
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: the act, Zach Durphy on the on the practice squad,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: and then hopefully you can stash your running back as well.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Here's another interesting debate if if la Quinn Allen's ready
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to go for the regular season and we don't know that,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: then do you keep Abdula? Well, you have three running
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: backs and Alan is the third down guy, so I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: don't think you.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Do you put him on the peace squad?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Twelve years practice?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think you don't think he's practice.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: That sounds like a reality TV show or something right there. Yeah,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: ala'zon prime is gonna steal that one or something.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: But no, yeah, yeah, if you're not to let him go,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: pet like you just.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: You just sat there and said, you know, Jerry Jones
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: has been he's been playing at a high level, so
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: you got to find him him in the field, I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: mean a mere Abdul has been playing pretty well. And
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: even that practice too, he's shown up.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: But but if you're only going to keep three, well
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: you don't think he's correct?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a really young running back room.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: By the way, how old Chris Rodriguez he's that four
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: years so he's yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: But the other guys are what too, eight years in
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: that running.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Back room, a ton of experience and then Chris kind of.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Running back room there, you go draft them run him
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: into the ground. And draft another one. All right, to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: need his parries. And by the way, last week when
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I was there for that practice.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Was that the good deb Yeah, that was like he
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: had a great phenomenal.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: That's what he needs to be.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: That's him, which is sometimes hard to do in training camp.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: But he found a way and he looked very good.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, we made it look really easy. So
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep track of all of this and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: then we will compare this when we come back week
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: one and see how we did. Obviously things can happen.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: You have him on there. I told you you wouldn't
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: get it right. I'm gonna get my honey on.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I told you you don't know.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Football like I know football.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Pete, your impressions.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: I see an emisphere is not in the studio anymore.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: He's talking real big until he's out here.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: Saying the other day right to his face.
• 1:02:18
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• 1:02:20
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  Speaker 5: But when it's somebody else, it's like I don't don't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: don't like you, and I don't want to know who
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: you are. I don't want to check on your family.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see how you're doing out the here,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: Like I'm here to do what's being called at a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: very high level and make the players that I was
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: supposed to make. And so that's what type of energy
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: and that's what type of things we get during you know,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: doing these joint practice. One of ones is you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: we go first thing we do at this at the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: endies right to one the ones get your mind ready
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: and for me, that's a good mindset builder for me.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Just just win.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Josh hen' z Allen keeping it real about joint practice.
• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: gonna keep it real about the preseason games because I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: already know what Pete thinks about it. But are the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: preseason games pointless at this point? Pete?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're pointless, because you know, for
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the younger guys to get some real live reps is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: always good, So one would be good for those guys.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: It's pointless for the veterans in my book, I just
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: you know, I just don't think you get much out
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: And I know it's not live tackling and you're hitting,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: and it's more physical than a joint practice.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: But you know, you heard Brian Brian Thomas, I.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Think say the other day he gets they get more
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: out of the joint practices than they do out of
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the preseason. And I remember back in the day when
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I talked to Philip Rivers, he said, and I have
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: joy practices. I get tons of reps in the preseason.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: If I did play, I might get like one series
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and out. That doesn't get you ready for the season either.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: So I do think that they become a little bit meaningless.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: But for young players, no doubt they're important.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: See, I think it depends who you talk to, because
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: there's a reason why Patrick Mahomes against preseason reps in games.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: There's a reason why Joe Burrell get like. Everyone's got
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: a different philosophy. I'm under the philosophy of and I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: understand health is a premium. You gotta be careful of that,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: but there's nothing more realistic than a preseason game. Putting
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: the pads on underneath the lights, in front of the fans,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: going through the pregame and everything like. That's just different
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: and you can't replicate that in practice. Now, sure you
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: can get a lot more reps and a lot more
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: attention in practice, but I'm not sure if that's the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: best stimulus to try to dictate exactly how good these
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: players are. I would much rather have it when the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: pressure's on, when the cameras are on, when you're on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: national television, playing in a football game set aside from
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: in front of you know, two thousand fans with some
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: music going on and everything at a joint practice. But
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm just a little old school wh it come,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: you know, that's my philosophy.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's just I mean, mostly some of these
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: preceeding games look like they have two thousand fans in
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the crowd anyways.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's not.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: No. That's by the way. That's why the two preseason
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: games probably aren't going away is they charge full price
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: for the tickets. For the most part, you get concessions
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: which you don't get at training camp. They make money
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: on the parking, so the teams are making money on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the preseason game.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: So why would you want them to go away completely,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: which is why they.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Won't and and Deck what you said in the beginning
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: here Pete too, this is a lot more for like
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: the rookies and the young guys just trying to make
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: a roster spot or a practice squad. Like do you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: think Liam Cohen in the middle of Tampa Bay practices
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: is going to go you know, when it's one hundred
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: degrees outside, guys are tired. Hey, guys, we're go need
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: extra thirty minutes for our fours and fives to get
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: some work and appreciate you. Yeah, we're gonna be ot
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: for an extra thirty minutes here for practice. Like no,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: that's that's that's not how it goes, right, So you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: just can't get rid of all the preseason games because
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: then how are you going to evaluate in terms of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: guys trying to make teams, trying to make practice squads,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: because it's not like you're gonna be trading away the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: joint practice film, right, So they for an adition.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Veterans, would you play veterans this week?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: I would I mean I would have played veterans week two,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: like the second preseason game.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Well, he remember, and then practice?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those all right? Maybe I will.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: But Pete's answer a question, I definitely would play veterans
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: in the preseason just because I can't. I don't come
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: from the belief system of I gotta expect the worst
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: of guys getting hurt, Like I feel like, you can't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: think like that. You can't think like that in the draft,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: free agency or I would.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Have played them a little bit too. But but do
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you play them this week after two days of work
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: with the Bucks. I mean, I don't know if they will.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't mind it, you know, maybe ten years ago,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: and it's kind of the opposite where it's like they
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: play a little bit in the first two games. In
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: the last game was the one where it was like,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: really like the more developmental, younger guys. But the way
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: that now there's three instead of four. And I think
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: also when they try to add another game to schedule,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that'll affect it going forward to I like,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I would like to see him for you know, driver
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: to kind of like what the Panthers did recently. I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: would not necessarily in this game, this is not happening
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: for the team. That's not even an option. But I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: think if health allows, I would like to see my
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: starting lineman, at my starting full offense out there functioning
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: at least a little bit, to see what it's going
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: to look like.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Because keep in mind too, they're going to have a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: break after this, this last preseason game.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: If they don't, Yeah, there's like an extra week this
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: year in between, which is u usual. Normally it's kind
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: of Labor Day weekend.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Thinks that last year, and and so you get to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: you get time off. I mean, it's it's incredible.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: It's a club.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I would like to see the guys. I mean,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: like I said, I would have played preseason game number
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: two over three, but I would still want to see
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: some of the starters in there because, and I'll say
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: this much, I know we're all ways away from it.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: When you play Cleveland on paper, the Jagos have the advantage.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: They have talent above Cleveland in every single position. But
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: here's the thing. Physicality is also an equalizer. And if
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: you wut to say, when they bout the Cleveland Browns,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: they're always a physical football team. So that physicality can
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: be the equalizer in terms of how much talent you
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: supposedly have on paper. That's what I would be worried about.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: That's what I would say, Okay, we got to get
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: some physicality, and they didn't play.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: They didn't play a lot of veterans either. You know,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: they played their quarterbacks, but they haven't played a lot
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: of veterans either.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I think with the time off you go, that means
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: you go a long time without.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Their final padded practice on Wednesday. Then they won't have
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: pads on be hitting each other until I mean, if
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: they want to do it the week before, I guess,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: but they're not gonna be in a real game until
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: the thirteenth of September.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: That's a long It's incredible.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: It's a long time to go without hitting.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: It's a very long time. I don't know if any
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: of that's ever going to change, but it it the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: way you've seen the last couple of years. The week
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: one week two, like the product's not always polished.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: But well, because they don't hit, they can't.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Get hit on week one, and they're.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Like, oh wait, the angles are terrible.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can simulate tackling with you know, dummies
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: and everything all you want.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: It's not the same. It just isn't.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: And you know that, Austin and just like when blocking
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: for an offensive the offensive line play the first five
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: weeks of the season, it's not doing the league and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: to begin with, but it's awful early in the season
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: because the timing is off. The athletes are so much
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: better on defense now and the timing is off, so
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a real problem.
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  Speaker 3: more about that. We kept it pretty real about the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: preseason games, is what it is. They've got one more
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  Speaker 3: coming up, but they've got two joint practices as well.
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  Speaker 3: just a few, just a couple. First one is about
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: the offensive line. Colvin Landon activated off the physically unable
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: to perform list. He's back at practice. He's taking part
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: in individual drills but is he going to be back
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: for week one? Pete, do you think he's your right
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: tackle starting week one? I do? I do.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I think he's made a really good recovery. Now, look,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: his injury wasn't you know, it was serious. But remember
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: he talked today about he was going to play at
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: one point during the playoffs out he was going.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: To go out there. That's for sure. He's not one
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: of those guys you have to worry about. I mean,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: typical offensive line we're talking about are almost dying and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: they still want to play. He wanted to play.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think he's there on opening day. I do.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I think he's the right time.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Is there any concern there when we're talking about he's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: not going to have had any live hitting at all.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, the rust is a concern always any
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: time you don't get to hit, because there's one thing
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: about being in shape.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: And there's another thing in Austin. You know this course,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: it's different, it's different.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, unless you're Adrian Peterson, then for whatever reason
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: you can just come back after an a cl and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: just take the lead by store. But everybody else, yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: you're you're gonna have some issues.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: But not just the acl but just not working, you know,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: of course, yeah exactly, But Austin, I meant to ask
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: you that what happens if you don't hit for a while,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: and then what's your body like the first time you
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: hear the first time you hit.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: That, It's like everything hurts like this. This is why
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I'm so big on the preseason games too. It's because
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: like there's an acclamation period when you go live, when
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: you hit somebody, like you almost like build up cows
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: is a little bit and everything right. And if you
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: don't do that, and literally, I don't have to be
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Kushan Juggins or who's gonna be the starting running back
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: for for Cleveland, but hit like that linebacker, that defensive
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: line who's gonna hit him the first time? They're gonna
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: feel that.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Man. So you know back in the day when they
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: used to hit and practice every day, Oh yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Every day.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I mean the middle drill, the nine on the goal line,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: they were all live period.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: Team inside run was it was full speed except restns Drew.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: I was in Restorns Drew got like the benefit of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: the doubt. But everybody else, man, I mean I remember
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: popping I was popping Ivy profens like tic TACs after
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: the game, after the practice, just because you're so banged
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: up and sore.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: It's pretty tough. I didn't play football, so I'm not
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: going to weigh in on this, but that sounds difficult.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about this a little bit about the college situation,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: because are they going to change the way the draft
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: functions after they've just had that ruling that players can
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: go back to college now, and then there's all this
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: like wishy washy trying to go back to get your
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: nil money. Like it's become very complex. I think they
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: kick the can down the road a long time and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: now it's just a free for all. But what's that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: going to look like? Pete, are they still gonna.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: There's not gonna be that nanny there'll.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully. I think this is just a one off,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: one year thing. But like to think you could go
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: and be at training camp and then go back to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: school is throwing me off.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, but when you think about it, it's great
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: for the kid.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know the.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Kid.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: They cut the kid and now he's going to go
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: make some ni O money at l s U. I mean,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: it's great for the kid. But and and by the way,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: has eligibility left why not?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, but there has to be a point has
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: to be Like the NBA, I feel like where you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: can go do the combine and stuff, right, but if
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: if you don't feel like you're getting a good grade,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: you can't, like once you get drafted, that's it.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Like then, but the college basketball they and a kid
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: went from the G League to sure where was it?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Uh was it Old miss or MISSI State.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: Or one of them? Yeah, but he wasn't drafted though,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: like was Alabama?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: It was Alabama to Alabama.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: But if you get drafted like that, that's that, that's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: the end. Like congratulations, he became a professional. Like imagine
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: and that was this kid.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if the kid was draft he
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't drafted, he was an undrafted He's.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Still technically like he got chose to signed a contract,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: signed the contract.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: That quite professionally, right, And like, Okay, we can say, well,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: good for that kid, you can go back to college. Fine,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: but then imagine the kid that he's going to be replacing,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Like you busted your asked the entire summer, like you're
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: supposed to be the starter. Now here comes a guy
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: that was on you know, an NFL team that's.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Gonna taste a professional.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: But the guys are getting paid in college on professionals.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, man, but I'm saying that there
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: has you're a college, you're a student athlete, or you're
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: a professional. You can't go be a professional and then
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: go back to being a student athlete again.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I'm against want to you're an athlete, athlete.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: You're you're an athlete, nil student athlete. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: I just think it's silly because they gave all those
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: extra years with COVID and whatnot, and it's like some
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: of these players are like twenty six of twenty, Like
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: how long was Stetson Ben? And like everybody was in
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: college for so so.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Fun Alstoin, you played the league retired.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: If somebody came to you and said, hey, Austin, we
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: want you to play defensive end for US at ole
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Miss and we're going to give you one point two
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: million dollars this year when you go play.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Well yeah obviously, yeah.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Change that.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: But I'd have a nice little chick chat with the
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: guy and be replaced and be going, hey, man, I
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: know it sucks, but I kind of.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Like if he's not, if he's good enough, he takes
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: your jobs, maybe Tournament is going to come back and
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: take my job again on this seat.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: Who knows. Yeah, you're right, Pete.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Well that means what he have he would have failed
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: in his other job. I don't think he want in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: the city, wants that. No, no, no, no no.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: All right. This one's about a little more about this
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: team and expectations. So what are your expectations for Borcature
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: and ran saw this season? What's it going to take
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: for them to be good draft picks.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we got to remember with Ramsaw, he's coming off
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: a major foot injury.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: And I think that's important to point out because I
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: know people are like, it's a second year, he got hurt,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Like the first week of training camp, we've seen nothing
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: of him. In my mind, they are treating him like
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: a rookie.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: In some way, he's a rookie. And in fact, there
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: told me that the other day, they said, he's a rookie.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: We're treating him like a rookie. His head spinning, he's
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: learning the defense. It's not reacting like he will react
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: when he understands it. When he was just standing there
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: learning the defense. It's different when you're on the field.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: You got to react, you got to move, you gotta
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: your speed is different. You slow you know when you're
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: when you don't know the defense, you slow down. And
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're seeing the best of him yet,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: So this might be a little bit of a learning
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: curve for him. As we get maybe middle of the season,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: you start seeing him go on and because see athletic
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: ability is there, and once the smarts and the and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: the heads and all that goes on about what he
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: has to do, I think he plays faster. So I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: think it might be halfway through the season before we
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: really start seeing stuff from him. I think Mortgage is
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: a good draft because he's gonna block a and he's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: a better receiver than people give him credit for.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: He's going to be. But again, how many how many
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: guys are gonna be catching passes?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: How many?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: There's yep, and we already talked about a ton of
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: them and those ones absolutely have to get it. So
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: what do you think his role is going to look
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: like on the offense? Is here, Pete, because I'm not
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: quite sure because Cozyals looked the better pass catcher thus far.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: I know they want him into block specifically, he still
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: got Breton Strange in there.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna be there to block in line, then
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: you can bring Strange out and let him do some
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: some you know, off the line of scrimmage stuff to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: like flex him out and get him in some one
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: on one situation. So he's a great blocker, Borki Shire
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and I think he's again he's gonna catch twenty passes,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: maybe eighteen, get a couple of touchdowns.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's what you look for from him this season.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they also talk about Cozel in the red zone
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: because he's a big target, yes, and he goes get it.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep an eye on Breton Strange two in
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: the red zone because I think with that Barkershire pick
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: and everything, I think that's gonna allow Breton Strange. Like
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: you know, there's there's maybe four or five tight ends
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: in this league where you can put them out wide.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: You can put them in different situations, one on one
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: coverage with the corner you know, you know when you
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: go trips on the opposite side and you can you
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: can do interesting things with them. They're very dynamic. I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: think Breton Strange is on his way to being one
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: of those guys where I wouldn't be surprised to see
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: him almost ligning up at us as a wide receiver,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: maybe one time in the red zone, throw him a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: jump ball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: motion and and run more of like an advanced route tree.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: It kind of like a tight end option route and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: just kind of trust where he's gonna go find, you know,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: some coverage in the in the defense and throw them
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: the football. Like I think he's gonna because keep my
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: last year was his first starting year without Evan Ingram,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: so I think they're gonna put more on his plate
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: this year. And with with the rookies coming in now
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: with you know, Tanner, Cozy and everybody like that, that's
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: gonna allow him to be I think more dynamic in
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: this offense.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see him running with the wide receivers
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: a lot on offense and they kind of utilize them.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: They certainly want to use him that way. There's so
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: many question marks for me.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: This is why.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: So frustrating. Another reason he just got paid.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Though, yeah he did.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna be bitching the guys that went and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: thrown it to him.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be right.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Once he get the football, they're gonna be mad. I'm
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: just I want to know what this offense is going
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: to look like. And I feel like I'm gonna have
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: no idea until they actually play in Week one because
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: of so many changes and just the preseasons not anymore.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: So it's just so many question marks from me because
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: we're talking about this and it's like, I don't know
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: what's go look like and I don't know what's right.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: They might play a little faster this year too, I
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: think they.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: I think, well, certainly, let's.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: Speak of the running game real quick. If we have
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: to go to break here, do you want to get
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: into your hot Tutin to tirade quick here?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean Duton needs to be the lead back
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and he needs to get the football and he and
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about how.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Many how many cares is he going to get a game?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: Because also, well more.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Than the three you got against Buffalo for forty whatever yards,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe fifty carries and five receptions get him twenty touches.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: I just think he's different. He's the different guy I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: saw an interest in the other day. I saw something
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know who. They tweeted out a picture of
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor talking to him.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I talked to Fred too, and he was saying, and.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: What did Fred say He's talking about?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: They were talking a little bit about kind of taking
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: over that role obviously Ten's left town and the pressure
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: of that involved, what that involved in that, and just
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: kind of tuning out the noise. And Fred was great
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: at doing that somehow, And I know it's not as
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: easy now when everything's on your phone and people are
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: kind of getting at you every other way, but just
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: kind of focusing in on that because I think if
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: he does that and doesn't let anybody get in his head,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: I think that he'll be much better off in that regard.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: But can he be affected by outside noise?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I don't well, Fred fred one said, thanks to me,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: I got it one of my best tricks ever. I go, Fred,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: you could probably get to two thousand this year, don't
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you think? And he said, oh yeah, I think I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: get to two thousand. I have my headline.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: I Betty loved that.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: Yea.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: He still laughs about it to this day.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: So just real quick, is your concern that Rodriguez is
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: going to get more of the of the reps and everything.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: And this is where this is all coming from.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Like what well we keep here, it's more physical. We
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: want to be more physical. We want to be more physical,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: and Rodriguez is more physical, correct, So when you hear that,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: But again, if I'm playing the Jacksonville Jaguars and I'm
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: defending the Jacksonville Jaguars, I'd much rather defend Chris rod
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Vegas than Touton and he could go sixty, Rodriguez could
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: go at his best probably twenty five.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: And I agree with you, and I think Tutan's better
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: in the past game. But like and this is a
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen staple, I think the better running back will
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: get more reps. Like you saw this when he was
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay with Rashad White and Bucky Irvin. Everybody
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: had Rashad White as the future of the Buccaneers. Here
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: comes Bucky Irving out of nowhere and he becomes the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: Bell Kyle eventually, right like Tutans, reps will be there now.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: What he does with them, time will tell. But I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: think going forward, being the physical style running back, you
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: know what you're getting with Chris Rodriguez. You know you're
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: gonna get four to five yards per rep. That's what
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: they need right now because they didn't have that last year.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: They had that a little bit with Tavis a chan
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Or etn in the beginning of the season, and then
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: they kind of fell by the wayside in terms of
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: running the football.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: They I wa yeah, I worry about and I go back.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor's not in the Hall of Fame and he
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: should be. Fred Taylor's one of the all time greats,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: sure well. Fred Taylor's touchdowns are something that hurt him,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: and Costlin used to take him out on the goal line,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He put
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: one time, James Stewart had five touchdowns in a game
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: because he took Fred Taylor off out of the game.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: And so don't take Tuton out of the game in
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: goalline situations just because you think Rodriguez is the tougher runner.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: That's not necessarily always better.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: It's you know, and now now too, go ahead.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor could have gotten those five touchdowns easily.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: He could have. Were getting ready to call it tooton
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: Fred Taylor because we haven't seen that from Fred Taylor.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: No, No, there are Fred Taylors are hard to find,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: of course. I mean, I mean he's the greatest running
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: back in the history that franchise, and Maurice was great,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: but he's not close. Yeah, and and me, he's one
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: of the great running backs this league has ever seen.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: So no, I'm not comparing him to him. But he
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: has the home run speed and.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: I agree with that, Fred Taylor. But but we also
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: have to see the vision come to life. We have
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: to make sure that he can find that hole, hit
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: it and use that speed to get a long touchdown.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: But until that time, and once again, he's gonna have
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: plenty of opportunities to be the Bell Coop. But I
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: get on airing on the side right now, Chris Rodriguez,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: because you know exactly what you're getting with him, right
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: Like Alvin Kamara was Elvin Kamara for a long time,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: but he was his best self, the best version of
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: himself when he had mark Ingram. As soon as you
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: asked Elvin Kamara to do everything, his numbers kind of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: fell off a little bit. No, he's still older too,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: got older, but like to me, he was playing his
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: best brand of football when he had mark Ingram.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: It was like you know, thunder and which one would
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: you rather which one? Would you rather have had the football?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: If I'm playing fantasy football, Pete, I'm going Alvin Kamara
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: all day.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: If you're playing real football, you rather you'd rather give
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: the ball?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Boy here?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: Mark, I don't want if it's If it's third and short,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: I'm giving ball to Mark Ingram.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: And that's why you're going to give the ball to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Rodriguez on third and short.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Sure, And I'm gonna get the ball when I need
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: four or five yards?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Is they're going to give it to Rodriguez on first
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: intent they are?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: And then and then enjoy your five yards? And now
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: hey guess what, Pete, Now it's second and five, you
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: can go play action. You run the football a lot
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: of possibilities.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: I would enjoy thirty yards.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: But you gotta do it a league.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: Plat do it.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be given the chance. I think they're
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: going to start out with Chris Rodriguez doing what you're saying,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: trying to get big chunks on the first down, second down.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: But if Tutan can make the home run plays more
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: frequently than I think he starts I do.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I think the way they're talking, I think that's bad.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's good or bad, But the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: way that they're talking about it, I think that's how
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: they're gonna go.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: And that's not an indictment of Chris Rodriguez because Chris
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez is a grinder.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's what.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: That's because they want to come out. If they want
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: to come out and punch people in the mouth and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: be physical and like establish themselves as a physical team,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: that's more important to them right now. I think I.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't be surprised week one if Tuton maybe has more
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: targets and carries total, like more, but I can see
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez getting those first couple of carries. Yeah, just
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: to establish a line of scrimmage.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Touton should have fifteen carries for and rip off a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: long run and end up with like about one hundred
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: yards and have five catches for forty and maybe a touchdown.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: That's what he should have.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Sure, and Rodriguez should be the grinder that gets nine
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: for thirty three in a touch I mean.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: That's what he is.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: We'll see. I don't know, Yeah, I believe you. I
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: don't not believe you. I'm just I think that's what
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: they're going to try to start with and then they'll
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: go from there. All right, when we return, we're going
• 1:25:21
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• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: very excited for joint practice coming up because we're going
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: to get some actual action. And Pete, you went to Tampa.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: What did you see when you were out there?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: They're a good football team, yea, you know they had
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: so many injuries last year across the offensive line, they
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: were just decimated.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: You know, they had to move their center left the left.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Tackle when Worf's wasn't playing, and they had two players
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: on offense start the entire season. One was Baker Mayfield
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: and he was hurt all year, and the other one
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: was Graham Barton, the center, who started at left tackle
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: for a couple of games.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: So I think they're healthy again.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: The offensive line is one of the better ones in
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: the league when they're on the field, and I think
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Baker's going to have a good year. Now, no Mike Evans.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: That changes the dynamic of the offense. But they do
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: have a lot of Guysbuca McMillan. You know, those guys
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: are going to be able to catch, They're going to
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: get better, and I think they're going to be more
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: involved in the offense. And I think defensively it comes
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: down to ken they rush the passer. Ruben Bain has
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: been everything they thought he would be and more. He's tough,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: he's physical, he's powerful, and if you can, you know,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: pair him with ya Ya Dabbi. You can rush the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: passer with Videvea and you know Elijah Kanty who stays
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: on the field. All of a sudden, you got four
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: guys you can rush the pastor. That's pretty darn good.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: So I think they're going to be better than people
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: think they are. And Baker's playing with a chip on
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: her shoulder. When Baker plays with a chip on his shoulder,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: he is going to play well.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to see you his little trial by fire
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: for the Emmanuel Pregnant. I think at practice tomorrow we're.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: About to find out.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: But it'll be because both those guys are good. Chancey's
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: really good too. He's been battled injuries his whole career,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: but when he's on the field, he's a really good player.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna be tough, tough sled for him.
• 1:27:44
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• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: The Browns have finally made it official. Seawan Watson named
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: their starting quarterback. He will be in Jacksonville's starting week
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: one pe.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Sur prize, not one bit zero.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Why did they pretend like it was a thing. I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: feel like they were going to go.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I I had heard talking to people up there that
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: early on in the process, Watson was clearly ahead. In fact,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Sanders was having trouble throwing spirals and he was not
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: operating the offense very well. As it went along, he
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: got better, but Watson did too. And Watson had more
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: of a command for the offense, and then the OTAs
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: and then training camp practices and on into the work
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: with Buffalo. Last week he was the better quarterback. Well,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: they set him up to fail last week. They put
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: him in with the threes. He's not going to succeed
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: in that scenario, and he didn't. He looked disinterested, and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: then he had the booze and everybody said, well, you
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: got to cut him after what he said, which is
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: stupidity to the highest level.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: And so he gives them the best chance.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: And for people in Cleveland who don't think that Todd
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Montan made the decision, they're wrong. Todd is the head coach.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: He made that decision. He feels it gives them the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: best chance to win in Jacksonville.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Early in the season.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: How long is the starter.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: It's not like the other guys all world either.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it is, but you know how people are.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: If it's bad, they just want to change of any
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: kind bad.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think either one of them are very good,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: And Dylan Gabriel must be missing the.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Other thing, can you imagine? I know, because they draft
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: him before shoot and he's not even in the conversation
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: and they're both of.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Their QUARTERBA quarterback going forward is in college football right now?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, if I'm pointing on Josh McDaniel, I'm
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: getting out of there, like it's it's way too much.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: Why would why would you want to deal with Deshaun
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Watson and all that stuff?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: Calling off the page, Todd?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: Why would you want to go because you're making ten
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: million dollars a year? Yeah, fantastic, man, But you get
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: an absolute nightmare of a quarterback room. You have one
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: quarterback and Deshaun Watson who's calling on his fan saying,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: why are you guys booing me? When hey know why?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: I think we all know why, And it's got nothing
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: to do with you on the field. Maybe it's not
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: a really good person.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: I never think of a quarterback either to begin and then.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: You haven't been for a long time, so if nothing
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: to cheer at this point.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: No, but but that's why.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: That's why I think Todd knows that they're going to
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: give him this year.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think going into that situation, Tod munkins
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit older. I think he probably going in
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: was understanding of, Hey, this is going to be what
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: it is this year and then we'll kind of build
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: up for He.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Also is in a situation where he didn't think this,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: this opportunity would.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: Come for his career's taking it. Yeah.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, He's got a very polarizing quarterback room. I've just
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: said that much.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: It's a terrible quarterback room. But you know what, it's
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: going to be a real good quarterback room with arch
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Manning in it next week.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Go oh there we go, all right? For fantasy owners,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: keeping an eye out Ashton Gentylet leaving practice, But it
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: looks to be a minor ankle injury compared to what
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: they thought it was going to be.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: I mean they gathered around and said prayer, film aw that.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I was like an ankle injury.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: I mean that you don't know how serious anything is
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: on a practice field and we're not there. So I
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: was like Dad.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: And Jacksonville, we had a lower leg in injury. The
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: hockey team would.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: Have said, keep it vague, don't give any tips to anybody.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I mean that one bothers me. Just tell what the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: injury is.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. And also, like listen, if you're gonna
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: have a prayer circle, you're gonna have to do a
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks. I'm sorry you need Yeah, you can't
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: have a but it's gotta be.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be at least in the prayers. So yeah,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: by the way, I did.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: I did give my former radio partner here a little
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: bit of grief last week for lower leg injury.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: For everybody, Come on, what are you a hockey team.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: They don't need to know what everybody's doing. I'm getting
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: your break. I used to fight that fight with Coughlin.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Tell us what the injury is. They have to because
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it leaves players out to.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: Draw and.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's situational, but yeah, you gotta be
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: honest with what you can be honest with. Speaking of Vegas,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: I'm curious they have said Kirk Cousins is going to
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: start correct no.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well they kind of said it without saying, yeah.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: When when is Mendoza going to get in because now
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: in a week one, well, now my concern is if
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: gent he's not in there, then they're not going to
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: do it at all. They're not going to do it
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: till he's back, right, because they're not just going to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: throw him in there with no running back.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Well, the Mike Washington has been really good, the rookie
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: from Arkansas, so again running back and grow on trees.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: He pulled one off and let him go.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: I just think Mendoza should start right away.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: What do you what are you doing delayraft him there
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: if you didn't want to.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: Right you're you're letting him learn. Pete because if.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: This was a different one would have been over and
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: talk to said he learned more in one game than
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: he learned and watching ten.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, do they get helped on Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: If ever Rodgers would have played right away, he would
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: have been great. There's some guys that would have been great,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: Man Mahomes.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: If Mahomes had played right away, he'd have been great.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: Great.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: This is great, okay, but there are a lot of
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: guys who sat that weren't great. They started to learn
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: and they never got better.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: If they want, you.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: Can go both ways on this, But like, but I
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: don't think Mendoza coming out of college was like this
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: highly talented. We have to tank from Mendoza, Like, I
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: think there's so how good.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: He was the number one, clear number one draft pick,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: but played right away and he was awful.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: But it was Peyton Pete, Like they're different guys come
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: out of college.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Correct, But Mendoza was good at Cal two years ago.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: People forget that he was.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: I forgot he went to kill Honestly, Yeah.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious if it'll translate. I'm curious to see
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: him in the NFL and what that's gonna look like.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: Obviously Vegas is its own situation.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: But I was like Doug Peterson when he was on
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: with me, we were talking about this a little bit,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: and he said he played Wentz right away because he
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: felt that you get to the process quicker, you find.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Out what you have.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: If you drafted him and you play him and by
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: week ten you know you got a problem.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: You go into the next season, you have a big problem.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: If you wait to the next season and don't play him,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: then that all gets delayed another year.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: When Mendoza stops referring to Joe Buck as mister bucker.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: Yes sir, No, sir, then he can go in and
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: be my starting I'm not gonna have my starting, yes, sir.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: He's a little different, that guy. He's a little different,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: little Pete.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a little different.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: But he can play. He can play.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: The dude hasn't touched the public school in his entire life.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, it's it's different.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Commit can he command a huddle yet?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: All right, gather up, sirs, Come on, everybody in the NFL.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: I heard he's good in the huddle.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that different on the field
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: than he is on the off the field.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: We got to get him miked up and see what
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: it sounds like.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: I'm curious the Super Bowl, and I'm with you, guys.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: He's a strange bird.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm very curious. All right, another piece of news
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: just breaking now, E v P Jaguars VP Tony BUSSELLI
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: named the NFL's Competition committee. So Pete, you're gonna get
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: in his ear about some of these rule changes. What
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: do you want to what do you want to get done?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: Why does he want to do that? I don't know
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: why I wants to do They.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: Want to talk about push for the eight hundred times.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think the funny thing is they're naming a
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: guy to the Competition committee on the rules changes who.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Never knew the rules?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: You have the rules? He didn't even know, he said that. See,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: he never knew what damn rule to begin with.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: I had to stool them on all the rules. If
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: you could change one rule, what are you changing?
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: I eliminate special teams?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: Oh stop, you got someone out there real quick, because yeah,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: if you have and I've taken a lot of grief
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: last year for this, but if you have a losing record,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: you don't get to host a home playoff game. The
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  Speaker 4: the the benefit of winning a division is that you
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  Speaker 4: go to the playoffs, But if you have a losing record,
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  Speaker 4: you do not get the host of home playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: Because the play fumble out of the back of the
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  Speaker 2: end zone. Should it be a touchback?
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  Speaker 4: Sure? I mean, I mean, what do you get on.
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  Speaker 1: The two yard line? A guy fumbles into the back
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  Speaker 1: of the end zones?
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  Speaker 2: A touchback?
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  Speaker 1: Is should it be?
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  Speaker 4: Do you what do you want to be a touchdown
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: like for the other team.
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  Speaker 1: No, it shouldn't be a touchdown, but it should go back.
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  Speaker 2: To where the ball isn't play.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's a touchback, man, if you recover it. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I see, well, well I like touchback.
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  Speaker 2: If it goes out in the end zone or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 3: We have a direct line to power now, so we
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  Speaker 3: can get some of this done. I think is the point.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe they put a guy on it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know the rules, that's the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: What if he comes in and breaks all? What if?
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  Speaker 3: What if Tony is the catalyst we needed. They're gonna
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: make all these changes. The're gonna stop push push, They're
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: gonna do whatever.
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  Speaker 1: To some credit though, because a lot of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: he didn't know when he took that job he now knows.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think, well he's fully ingrained in it now
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's so deep in it it's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I get I kidded him a lot, but
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: he is in and he's perfect, so much so that
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  Speaker 3: I call.
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  Speaker 2: Him baby Tom Coughlin.
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  Speaker 4: Then there we go. Keep it so paranoid.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: He's so paranoid, just like Tom Goaughlin used to do.
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  Speaker 3: So I wonder why Pete too many years with you
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: he's a little bit paranoid, and then.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: We can't gunshot.
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  Speaker 2: I love him, but he's gunshot.
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  Speaker 3: All right. That's been Jaguars Happy Hour. We are so
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: happy you joined us. We're off next week. We'll be
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: back on Labor Day as we get ready for Week
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: one and we will find out if our roster is correct.
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  Speaker 3: We'll also get to preview a little bit about what
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: we might see with the Jaguars in Week one against
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  Speaker 3: the Browns. Thank you so much for joining us. This
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  Speaker 3: has been Jaguars Happy Hour.