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Huddle Up | Travis Hunter Brings the Energy on Defense at OTAs · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Field Total Group,
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Speaker 1: Jaguar Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former
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Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter JP Shaddrick bring you
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Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome in.
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Speaker 3: It is Wednesday, June fourth, Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 4: J P.
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Speaker 3: Shadrick, John Oser from Monday Studios at the Miller Electric
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Speaker 3: Center in Jacksonville. Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles, Defense Talk today.
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Speaker 3: Travis Hunter already going viral after a playing practice in
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Speaker 3: a closed practice yesterday. The video made it out to
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Speaker 3: social media. And we'll get to that one week remaining
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Speaker 3: Fieldsauto dot com. Bucky Howie feeling, what's up?
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Speaker 5: I'm good, Jp, I am good.
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Speaker 6: I'm glad that you had on the rundown today to
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Speaker 6: talk about the little play that went viral.
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Speaker 5: I saw your comments on X regarding.
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Speaker 6: One Travis Hunter and the contributions he's already making on defense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, John, Yeah, he.
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Speaker 7: Everything you hear beyond this play. Yeah, that's obviously shows
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Speaker 7: what we'll be talking about. The ball skills. Yeah. I
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Speaker 7: think when people who haven't watched him, Bucky, who maybe
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Speaker 7: don't follow college footballs as closely as you know, people
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Speaker 7: who do what we do, don't realize the way they
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Speaker 7: say special ball skills, this is a different guy on
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Speaker 7: that level maybe than what we've seen in a long time.
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Speaker 6: You know, John, Look, I've been around a bunch of
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Speaker 6: great players, and I know it's OTA's and I know
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Speaker 6: you don't want to get too excited about shorts and
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Speaker 6: ts and stuff, but man, that play.
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Speaker 5: Right there is so unbelievable. One. You have to understand.
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Speaker 6: He's pressing up against the guy to knock the ball
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Speaker 6: away like which wuld be a great play in itself,
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Speaker 6: like a PBu, but then to see it hit off
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Speaker 6: of his form to bounce lightly and for him to
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Speaker 6: catch it is ridiculous. I mean, I mean, like it,
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Speaker 6: it's just ridiculous to see someone have those kinds of
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Speaker 6: ball skills, and for him it wasn't like anything out
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Speaker 6: of the ordinary. But you can see the reaction from
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Speaker 6: his teammates about how great that play is.
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Speaker 5: And we've seen a lot of.
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Speaker 6: Players man that position on the corner in Jacksonville for
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Speaker 6: a long time.
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Speaker 5: What he has already done in the.
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Speaker 6: Little limited displays where we've seen him play on defense, man,
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Speaker 6: it just makes you want to put him on defense
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Speaker 6: and see if he.
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Speaker 5: Could be a two way play.
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Speaker 6: Even though we spent last week talking about, oh, well,
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Speaker 6: you know, maybe a man and a half or whatever.
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Speaker 5: I do understand why Liam khyn.
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Speaker 6: Had talked about the defensive coaches asking for a little
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Speaker 6: more time, because when you give him more time, he
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Speaker 6: makes more plays.
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Speaker 7: Everything you hear, and this is off the record, on
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Speaker 7: the record, is that it's going to be hard to
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Speaker 7: keep him off the field on defense. That's going to
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Speaker 7: be the challenge we talked about. You know, you've got
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Speaker 7: the you've got this incredible athlete essentially straining at the
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Speaker 7: leash where they've got to hold him back and try
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Speaker 7: to protect him. And it's going to be hard because
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Speaker 7: I think we talked about in the show last week,
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Speaker 7: Bucky he's not a true takeaway a receiver, corner man
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Speaker 7: up guy like that's not necessarily it. But his ball
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Speaker 7: skills are so unbelievable that you want to have him
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Speaker 7: on the field facing the quarterback trying to take the
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Speaker 7: ball away, and there's not that many guys like that.
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Speaker 7: He's almost like the playmaker on defense who can turn
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Speaker 7: defense into points. You know, it's an exaggeration. He's not
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Speaker 7: gonna do it every game, but it's Uh. We tend
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Speaker 7: to talk about athletes and compare them to what we've
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Speaker 7: seen before. This is something we haven't seen before, and
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Speaker 7: so you've sort of got to expand your mind in
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Speaker 7: how this is going to be interpreted and how he's
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Speaker 7: gonna be used.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, I'm not gonna put him put a
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Speaker 6: gold jacket on him, but what I will do is
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Speaker 6: I use like some guys that I played with as
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Speaker 6: a point of reference, guys that do have gold jack
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Speaker 6: because I played with Eric Allen, I played with Charles Woodson,
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Speaker 6: and I'm a close friend of Rod Woodson, and I
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Speaker 6: remember watching those guys, particularly Charles Woodson and Eric Allen
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Speaker 6: and practice and how it was very routine to see
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Speaker 6: them not only put their hands on the ball but
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Speaker 6: to make special plays. And guys that also played at
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Speaker 6: at level like Adale Carter or James Hasty who are
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Speaker 6: perennial PO Bowl All Pro type players and the things
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Speaker 6: that they're able to do in practice is they always
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Speaker 6: issue a reminder almost daily in terms of why you
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Speaker 6: revere them to that degree. And looking at that play
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Speaker 6: and looking at the clips that came from Friday when
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Speaker 6: he made his debut on defense, and you just see
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Speaker 6: the ball skills and the.
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Speaker 2: One on one.
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Speaker 6: Drills against Brian Thomas Junior and those things like, you
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Speaker 6: can just see how good he is. And look, I
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Speaker 6: wrote in my notes that Okay, man, it's cool to
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Speaker 6: have like a wide receiver two, but man, when you
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Speaker 6: have a wide receiver two and a CB one, that combination,
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's really remarkable.
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Speaker 5: In terms of what he could do. I'm excited to
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Speaker 5: see how they utilize him.
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Speaker 6: I hope that is like summer plays, don't kind of
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Speaker 6: force them to deviate from the plant. Because I think
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Speaker 6: the plan to have him as a full time wide
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Speaker 6: receiver and a guy to have a playmaker on defense
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Speaker 6: is a good one.
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Speaker 5: But I can't see.
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Speaker 6: Why you would think about putting him on the field
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Speaker 6: more because, man, the return on the investment is significant
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Speaker 6: when he plays it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the fascinating story could become. And we've
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Speaker 7: talked about around here. Anybody who talks about Travis talks
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Speaker 7: about this is you can his body endure the role
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Speaker 7: that he would like to play and the role that ideally,
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Speaker 7: if this were Madden and you could take off the
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Speaker 7: reality of fatigue, you'd have him play in every play
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Speaker 7: all the time. But if he can withstand that, the
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Speaker 7: fascinating thing is how long are they going to be
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Speaker 7: able to how long are they going to be able
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Speaker 7: to keep him from being full time on both sides,
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Speaker 7: Because that's what I keep hearing is he is really
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Speaker 7: going to push to play a full time role on
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Speaker 7: both sides. Can he withstand it? That's the million dollar
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Speaker 7: question that we can never know until it happens.
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Speaker 3: Let's hear from the head coach, Liam Cohen. He's the
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Speaker 3: guy that has to make that decision at the end
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Speaker 3: of the day. He spoke on Monday about Hunter playing defense.
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Speaker 4: We were in the red area last on Friday and
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Speaker 4: didn't end up making any like plays on the ball,
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Speaker 4: but just the movement skills and some of the man coverages,
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Speaker 4: the feel and zone, you can definitely see how natural
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Speaker 4: it is for him. Still learning, still growing, still trying
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Speaker 4: to learn the calls as much as possible. But when
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Speaker 4: you see him just in the actual seven on in
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Speaker 4: team setting, he doesn't look out of place by any means.
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Speaker 2: No doubt about that, guys.
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Speaker 3: And you know it's one of those Bucky you just
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Speaker 3: kind of do you have to just let him go
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Speaker 3: up to the edge of too much and then reel
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Speaker 3: it back in. Hey, Okay, this is probably a little
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Speaker 3: too strenuous having this many snaps. Or do you just
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Speaker 3: continue to build it up, build it up until you
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Speaker 3: get to a point where you're comfortable.
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Speaker 5: I think you need to build it up.
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Speaker 6: I think the job of the head coaches to protect
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Speaker 6: the player against himself. And even though Travis is more
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Speaker 6: than talented enough to do it and is more than
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Speaker 6: willing to do it, I think it's really important for
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Speaker 6: Lim going to have a long range plan in terms
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Speaker 6: of how he wants to utilize Travis Hunter this year.
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Speaker 6: We know that the combination of him, Dimmi Brown BTJ
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Speaker 6: on the priment of an offense that should be dynamic
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Speaker 6: and high powered and explosive. But then it's trying to
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Speaker 6: figure out how do we fit him in on defense.
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Speaker 5: I think the.
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Speaker 6: Original plan that they made when everyone's was kind of calm,
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Speaker 6: the emotions weren't running high. In terms of thinking about
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Speaker 6: how to utilize him, I think that is a sound one.
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Speaker 6: Having NBA man and a half player should enable him
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Speaker 6: to make enough plays, not only on offense but on
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Speaker 6: defense to help his.
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Speaker 5: Team make a push and be a much better team
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Speaker 5: than the one that last season.
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Speaker 7: JP and Buck, have you ever been into the beach
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Speaker 7: or in a pool when it's just a little bit
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Speaker 7: too cold to get in and you wind up sort
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Speaker 7: of you know, you go into your knees and you
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Speaker 7: kind of get back out, and then you go into
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Speaker 7: your thigh and kind of get back real men jump in,
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Speaker 7: So you guys probably jumped in. But that's the way
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Speaker 7: I get into a cold pool. It feels like that's
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Speaker 7: the way to do it with Travis, right. Let him
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Speaker 7: get in, Let him get in, and you just get
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Speaker 7: the feeling at some point that he's going to be
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Speaker 7: head into that pool and going. But I think the
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Speaker 7: team needs to make sure that he goes first to
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Speaker 7: the knees, the end of the thighs, then then go
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Speaker 7: ahead and get to your you know, you got to
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Speaker 7: protect from from himself because it is too much of
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Speaker 7: risk to let him dive right in, even though that's
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Speaker 7: what JP would do.
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm just asking a question. No point
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Speaker 2: of me, man, I mean.
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Speaker 5: I love that and the reason why I love the
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Speaker 5: swimming analogy. Often use this when reverencing my two kids.
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Speaker 6: There was a man, mister Conrad, a Jamaican guy, who
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Speaker 6: taught my son how to swim. And his method of
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Speaker 6: teaching guys say, I can get you to swim in
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Speaker 6: five days. And literally John he took my kid when
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Speaker 6: he was little. He was like, okay, hey, you want
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Speaker 6: to swim. Great, and he threw them into the deepense
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Speaker 6: and he said, oh, you're figured out.
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Speaker 5: And then my daughter went to this water wrisper.
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Speaker 6: That took like eight weeks and they slowly dropped water
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Speaker 6: droplets on her on her forehead and that was the
10:26
Speaker 6: class for a week whatever. And then my son became
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Speaker 6: a much stronger swimmer because he was just exposed to it.
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Speaker 6: And I do wonder like you're talking about, like, hey,
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Speaker 6: we can slowly ease him in and then at some
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Speaker 6: point you're like, hey, guys.
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Speaker 7: We gotta do this.
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Speaker 2: Go play.
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Speaker 5: I like take the floaties off. Yeah, she just gotta
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Speaker 5: go because.
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Speaker 7: You're just feeling in the building that eventually that will
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Speaker 7: happen with Travis where they're gonna be. They're gonna say,
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Speaker 7: you know what, he's shown us that he's ready for it,
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Speaker 7: but they have to make sure that they're right that
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Speaker 7: he'll be ready.
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Speaker 3: And then the athletic training and the strange staff and
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Speaker 3: all that has to be in Cahusulus too, Bucky. That's
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Speaker 3: to make sure he's rehabilitated and ready to go the
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Speaker 3: next day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Look, but I think there are things that you can
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Speaker 6: do from a practice standpoint to get him right where
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Speaker 6: hey man, maybe Wednesday is a rest and recovery day
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Speaker 6: where he does the walk.
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Speaker 5: Through part, but maybe he doesn't practice it.
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Speaker 6: I just know this, I can feel it from a
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Speaker 6: million miles away. There is an electricity and energy when
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Speaker 6: he is on the field that is different.
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Speaker 5: Like for this team.
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Speaker 6: I can't remember the last time a player was on
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Speaker 6: the team where everyone on the team could feel the juice.
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Speaker 6: I liken it to when I played in Green Bay
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Speaker 6: was in the middle of Brett Favre's three MVP run,
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Speaker 6: and when you were on defense, you stood up to
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Speaker 6: watch what he was going to do on offense. I
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Speaker 6: get the sense that already players on both sides of
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Speaker 6: the ball. When twelve is in the game, there's this feeling, Man,
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Speaker 6: he's going to make a play.
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Speaker 5: Let's make sure we watch it.
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Speaker 6: And man, that energy is infectious, as contagious as one
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Speaker 6: of those things that can really take a team to
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Speaker 6: another level, not on the play.
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Speaker 5: Making, but just to juice. Eddie brings as a special
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Speaker 5: It's huddled up.
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Speaker 2: Let's continue on defense.
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Speaker 3: Josh Heinz Allen defensive end speaking with the media Monday,
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Speaker 3: and the storyline this week about everybody's a little heavy
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Speaker 3: last year.
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Speaker 8: You know, my mindset was always you know, to be
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Speaker 8: as dominant, but you know it was a little obviously
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Speaker 8: holding a little bit more weight you know, puts a
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Speaker 8: little bit more wear and tear on the body, and
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Speaker 8: just you know, it was a lot too much. Again,
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Speaker 8: learned to adopt, got to know what works best for you.
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Speaker 8: Something I tried and something that I'm like, all right,
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Speaker 8: I probably don't want to do that again.
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Speaker 3: My talent's always good for a quart or two, Bucky,
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Speaker 3: And he said he was two eighty five.
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Speaker 2: At one point last season.
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Speaker 3: He wouldn't give us a number now, but it's clearly
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Speaker 3: he's trimmed up a little bit.
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Speaker 5: Ain't no, he's not.
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Speaker 6: And look I say this, like in the National Football League,
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Speaker 6: speed is coveted at a premium. And so even though
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Speaker 6: we like to think the bigger, stronger guy's gonna win,
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Speaker 6: it's all.
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Speaker 5: About the speed element.
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Speaker 6: And some of the plays that we gave up was
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Speaker 6: because on defense we were a slow, heavy legged defense
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Speaker 6: last year. So quarterbacks escape in the pocket, big plays,
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Speaker 6: big runs. A lot of that had to do with
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Speaker 6: just not being a fast team. And this is a
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Speaker 6: much faster team. When we go and watch them practice,
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Speaker 6: you can tell that they have like a little more zip,
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Speaker 6: a little more buzz and energy about them.
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Speaker 5: And man, your best players have to be not only
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Speaker 5: at a comfortable way. They got to be in a
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Speaker 5: comfortable position, and.
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Speaker 6: I feel like all of the Jaguars marquee players, particularly
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Speaker 6: on defense.
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Speaker 5: Are settled in the spots that should allow.
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Speaker 6: Them to play at the best because that's where they
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Speaker 6: were best at. Meaning not only Josh enzen Island and
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Speaker 6: Hearan Walker, but also Tyson Campbell and Foyer and Devin Lloyd.
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Speaker 6: All of these guys are playing positions that are best
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Speaker 6: suited towards their skill sets and where we've seen them
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Speaker 6: in Jaguars uniforms play at their best.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I forget how Josh exactly phrased it, but it
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Speaker 7: was interesting. He was talking about when he goes out
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Speaker 7: on the field, he wants to be thinking about nothing
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Speaker 7: else but dominating the guy in front of him, right,
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Speaker 7: and he was referencing the Guardian cap, but he also
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Speaker 7: sort of referenced back to your last year with the weight.
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Speaker 7: This game, you're playing the best players in the world
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Speaker 7: and the best athletes in that sport in the world.
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Speaker 7: You want to go out feeling like you're Superman. And
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Speaker 7: if if you have something that makes you feel like
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Speaker 7: you're less than your best self, which last year clearly
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Speaker 7: was the weight for these guys. You know, everything in
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Speaker 7: the NFL is based on a nine beating and eight.
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Speaker 7: I mean, you don't have matchups of nine versus four
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Speaker 7: athletic ability in this league. It's everything's razor sharp. If
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Speaker 7: you're not if you're not at your absolute best, you're
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Speaker 7: not going to win. And the weight clearly kept them
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Speaker 7: from being at their absolute best and they felt it.
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Speaker 7: So I guess, I say it's on the show the
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Speaker 7: other day, Bucky, he had seventeen and a half sacks,
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Speaker 7: and I guess they took the approach last year. Hey,
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Speaker 7: if it ain't broke, let's add weight. I mean, come on,
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Speaker 7: So it's over. It's in the past, and clearly these
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Speaker 7: guys are excited about the approach going on on defense now,
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Speaker 7: you know, and.
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Speaker 5: You can see the excitement.
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Speaker 6: I just think, like justin watching them move around and
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Speaker 6: fly around, like it's just the comfortability.
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Speaker 5: Like when guys are comfortable.
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Speaker 6: And they are feeling at their best, they play a
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Speaker 6: step faster, and I think it's apparent that the defense
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Speaker 6: is playing faster. It's also part of being a little
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Speaker 6: more zone based defense than man based, where you see
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Speaker 6: the reaction time is a lot quicker when it comes
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Speaker 6: to closing to the ball. And let's be honest, man,
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Speaker 6: I think the upgrades that they've added are certainly going
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Speaker 6: to serve the team well when it comes to what
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Speaker 6: this team looks like trying out And we can say
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Speaker 6: all that's knowing that it's only.
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Speaker 5: OTAs and they really don't mean anything.
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Speaker 6: But I believe there's a tremendous sense around the building
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Speaker 6: that this team is gonna be much better than many
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Speaker 6: people expect them to be.
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Speaker 7: Jp this team, I was writing about something else last night.
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Speaker 7: I was looking up a stat They had six interceptions
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Speaker 7: last year. Oh, that's hard to do if you're trying right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes they're gonna throw it at you, you
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Speaker 3: get a tip ball or like something.
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Speaker 7: So just that I mean, and they had more fumble
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Speaker 7: recoveries than that their whole turn of a ratio, but six, man,
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Speaker 7: So it's hard to imagine this defense this year, Bucky
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Speaker 7: not being better minimum at takeaways. I don't know where
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Speaker 7: their ranking will be, but this sort of style zone
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Speaker 7: facing the quarterback Travis Hunter on the field. We talked
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Speaker 7: so much about offense. I guess is why I'm off
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Speaker 7: on this track that that really feels like it's going
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Speaker 7: to be a theme of the defense this year. I'd
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Speaker 7: be stunned if there's not more takeaways.
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Speaker 5: Takeaways is the number one deciding factor in ball.
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Speaker 6: Just throw out any other stat when you just come
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Speaker 6: down to doing the takeaway battle, Like if you win
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Speaker 6: the takeaway battle by one, you win sixty four percent
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Speaker 6: of your games. By two, it goes up to about
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Speaker 6: seventy eight percent. If you win it by three, you're
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Speaker 6: now talking about ninety percent of the games are gonna
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Speaker 6: be won if you win to take a battle by
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Speaker 6: that much. And so you think about that, you understand
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Speaker 6: why there's such a great emphasis on being able to
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Speaker 6: take the ball away because it coincides with winning well.
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Speaker 6: Making the move to more of a zone base. You'll
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Speaker 6: hear them talk about vision and break. You can get
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Speaker 6: your turnovers off tips and overthrows. You can get your
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Speaker 6: turnovers because you're running to the ball fast and you
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Speaker 6: knock the ball loose because you got more hats running
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Speaker 6: with bad intentions to the football because they see the
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Speaker 6: ball thrown. And then the emphasis on knocking the ball
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Speaker 6: out is just going to become habitual. It's a habit
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Speaker 6: to go after the ball and all of these things,
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Speaker 6: these habits that they create. Now I'll go mattering games
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Speaker 6: because you will see more takeaways happen just because of
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Speaker 6: the philosophical change that has taking place with the defense.
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Speaker 2: Time to get to Daily's Place.
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Speaker 3: Busy schedule now that we're in June, it's it's upon us.
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Speaker 3: John Old Dominion June sixth, that's coming up in two days.
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Speaker 2: Packed house for that.
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Speaker 3: When Vampire Weekend June twelve, Class Animals June seventeenth, plenty
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Speaker 3: more ahead, all the tickets at info at Dailyesplace dot com.
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Speaker 3: Got a chance to go. Oh the boss, Patrick Cavanugh.
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Speaker 3: I went to Sticks the other night.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I heard sick. Are you a speed wagon?
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Speaker 2: No, we weren't there. No, it was Kevin Cronin and
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Speaker 2: Don Felder.
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Speaker 7: Kevin Cronan was Ari Speedway, was he?
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Speaker 2: Okay? We got there after we got there for the headliner.
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Speaker 7: Don Felder wasn't the Eagles that Kevin Cronin was Ari
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Speaker 7: speed Well, oh there he's not fair. Rsp I had
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Speaker 7: had a great guitar player, but Kevin Cronan was the
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Speaker 7: voice of Ri Speedway.
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Speaker 3: We got there in time for Sticks, Okay it is
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Speaker 3: probably did and probably riding the storm. I think I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna make it okay without those, that's fine. But it
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Speaker 3: was a good show, really good show. You see that
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Speaker 3: you're telling stories about sticks in the old light.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's okay. We don't have to go through those.
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Speaker 7: Second day was Uh, it was one of my bands
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Speaker 7: in nineteen eighty.
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Speaker 2: A couple of roster moves for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 3: As we wrap up here, Trenton Irwin wide receiver signed
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Speaker 3: to one Smooth defensive end is coming back.
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Speaker 2: How about that?
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Speaker 3: And they've waved a wide receiver David White Junior. That
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Speaker 3: was on Tuesday, and then news Wednesday that the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: are waving running back Keelan Robinson Bucky.
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Speaker 6: Wow, that was quick when it came to Keenan Robinson.
20:47
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this so glad to have Smooth coming back.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 5: He's a big part of it, like doing that playoff run.
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Speaker 5: He made a lot of plays.
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Speaker 6: He was an integral part of the team and the
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Speaker 6: energy certain to helped his team. And they need another
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Speaker 6: pass rusher and heroded past rusher. Trenton Irwin is an
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Speaker 6: interesting story because he's out my way. I've known trend
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Speaker 6: since he was a kid. Coached him a few different
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Speaker 6: times as a kid, watched him grow up. He is
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Speaker 6: an all time great high school player out in LA
21:14
Speaker 6: in terms of from his freshman year on, he might
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Speaker 6: finish his high school career with maybe four hundred catches.
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Speaker 5: I mean, the dude caught a million balls.
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Speaker 6: And seeing super prolific when it comes to it, So
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Speaker 6: it'd be amazing to see him run around.
21:27
Speaker 5: I like what the.
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Speaker 6: Jags are doing, like as it comes to filling out
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Speaker 6: the roster, in some of the late additions that they've
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Speaker 6: added post draft, whether it's Emmanuel Agba, we're not talking
21:37
Speaker 6: about Smoot, They've really done a good job of patiently
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Speaker 6: adding to the team to make sure that they can
21:43
Speaker 6: put out the best roster possible going forward.
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Speaker 7: And Bucky, isn't this kind of a case where, you know,
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Speaker 7: going into the draft they intentionally left the roster. You know,
21:54
Speaker 7: it wasn't stuffed, Like they weren't unbuckling their belt after
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Speaker 7: the meal. They were still sort of okay, we've got
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Speaker 7: some spots that we could still develop. And now that
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Speaker 7: they're seeing some of their young players in OTAs they've
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Speaker 7: given themselves a few weeks of OTA, it's okay. Yeah,
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Speaker 7: let's go ahead and go get a fifth receiver. Now
22:17
Speaker 7: it's time to sort of make sure we're deep enough
22:21
Speaker 7: in the past rush they get a Are these moves
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Speaker 7: about sort of having a better feel for where your
22:26
Speaker 7: roster is at from thirty to forty two or whatever
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Speaker 7: level I'm talking about.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean, look, I think that's a big thing,
22:35
Speaker 6: and sometimes that that process will take place in training camp.
22:40
Speaker 6: After you get to that first preseason game, you give
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Speaker 6: the young guys a bunch of reps, and then after
22:45
Speaker 6: you see them play that first preseason game, you reassess
22:48
Speaker 6: where you are and you may go sign a veteran
22:50
Speaker 6: or two to fill in some huge gaps. This is
22:54
Speaker 6: one when I think about Trent Irwin coming on, like, hey,
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Speaker 6: giving them a veteran wide receiver to look be a
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Speaker 6: guy that can be a viable option to compete for
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Speaker 6: maybe the final roster spot in that room. And then
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Speaker 6: when we talk about smooth is just trying to find
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Speaker 6: some other people that can get after it. It is
23:13
Speaker 6: taking a great opportunity to look at the team. Let's
23:16
Speaker 6: make sure we have the right training camp roster. I
23:19
Speaker 6: think John, you've talked about Bill Polling always being like
23:22
Speaker 6: you always want to have to have a roster that
23:24
Speaker 6: if we had to put the ball down today, we
23:27
Speaker 6: feel confident enough about what we had to put out there.
23:30
Speaker 6: I think this is part of that process to make
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Speaker 6: sure we always have a team that is ready to
23:36
Speaker 6: play if we had to break it out and play today.
23:38
Speaker 7: At New you can also see JP they've talked so
23:40
Speaker 7: much about since Gladstone got here and Liam and Tony.
23:46
Speaker 7: How many times you heard these guys talk about we
23:48
Speaker 7: want guys who love football and every I've never been
23:52
Speaker 7: around it. I've never been around a regime that wants
23:54
Speaker 7: guys who don't like it.
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Speaker 2: But these guys, I want these guys to hate the game.
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Speaker 7: But there's a difference between saying that and acting it. Smoot,
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Speaker 7: you know you've been around I mean, this is a
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Speaker 7: guy who when they talk about culture, when they talk
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Speaker 7: about wanting guys in the building who are the kind
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Speaker 7: of players that this team wants, Smooth fits that to
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Speaker 7: a tea, A veteran guy. I love being around football
24:21
Speaker 7: players who have gotten the most out of their careers. Meaning,
24:26
Speaker 7: you know, I don't know what kind of recruit Smoot was,
24:31
Speaker 7: but this is a guy who has worked to maximize
24:35
Speaker 7: what he can do in this league, loves being around it,
24:37
Speaker 7: and it's gonna squeeze every last drop out of his
24:40
Speaker 7: career that will fit in well and be a good
24:44
Speaker 7: thing for this locker room.
24:45
Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up next week.
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Speaker 3: Mandatory mini camp open to the public Wednesday, June eleventh.
24:52
Speaker 3: Visit Jaguars dot com to register and come hang out
24:56
Speaker 3: with us. It's gonna be a fantas. It's like a
24:58
Speaker 3: nine to ten or so nine oh five. I think
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Speaker 3: practice time officially now on Wednesday, June eleven, so check
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Speaker 3: it out. And then coming up this week Tomorrow Thursday,
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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Our Radio four o'clock on ten to next
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Speaker 3: in out. This week Austin Lane is in with Pete Prisco.
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Speaker 3: Oh loud, What a show that's gonna be.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Thursday, Pete'll say some stuff.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Pete's never been when to hold his tongue,
25:29
Speaker 6: so that'd be great.
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Speaker 3: We'll look forward to that, Bucky, and we'll talk to
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Speaker 3: you next week.
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Speaker 2: Have a good one, all right, but.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, good talking you guys.
25:38
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, Shohn Ozer, JP Shattericker.
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Speaker 3: Thanks to Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato, Thanks to you for
25:43
Speaker 3: listening and watching. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.