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Episode 104 · HSBD & Road Game Recollections · Trojan Marching Banter: The Official Podcast of The Spirit of Troy

• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: Wowie, wowie, another week.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: This is episode, golly, what is this?
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: Episode four of Team Banter.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: This thing's just clipping along.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: We got a rave review on episode three last week.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, none other than Mrs.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Busby herself, Casey's mom, said that the show was very funny and that she likes it a lot.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's I'll take it.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: If that's if that's the review, that's the review.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I'm gonna work with it.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna take that all the way to the bank.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: But uh what a great weekend.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Another Trojan victory, another opportunity to see the second, uh, second, third string defense out there getting the hours in, getting the work done, hours, minutes, who knows?
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: But just another great day of Trojan football and talk about a phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal uh halftime show.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't have hundreds of high schoolers on the field.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: We had thousands of high schoolers on the field celebrating high school band day.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell you what, high school band day does not happen without the man himself, Mr.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Dante Douglas, getting it done.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, Mr.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: D, say hello to the people.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning, good people.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: How's it going out there?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I hey, I'm good.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: How are you?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: I can rest now.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the event went off, went well, uh, had some variables come in there, but we made it all happen and it turned out great.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: So what maybe I don't know.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say what came over you because I know this was a joint decision, but I'm just I'm gonna put it in that accusatory tone.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: What came over you to invite 2,000 high schoolers this time?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um it starts with we had over 3,000 uh entries across maybe 30 something odd programs.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um unfortunately our infrastructure can't handle that.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I think last year we had like 1450, one year we had like 1750.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so trying to give more people an opportunity, um, I'm assuming we can chalk it up to after COVID now the interest is back and we can kind of get back rolling to years past.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I would assume this is probably one of the larger ones.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so we did have a lot of new uh applicants, and so we wanted to try to give those folks an opportunity to experience, you know, the historic Coliseum.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so after talking to you and seeing what we can do, we tried to go for the gusto.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: And um, we were able to pull it off with.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: I looked at the total count this morning with tickets issued to students, not counting chaperones.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: It was uh 2250.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Just what I mean, what a feat.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking at the pictures, like there's the pictures of the field, and then obviously a lot of the alums like they post online and I see everybody in and what they're doing, um, and just seeing this mass of bodies on the field.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I we've had a thousand, we've had that many, but just something about that extra, that additional 500 some odd folks just really kicked it up over the top.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: And um luckily we were we were able to rehearse a lot of movement on and off the field during rehearsal.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we were able to rehearse the music a few times on the field.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think all in all, despite any sort of logistical fears, concerns, or difficulties, um, man, it really, it, it really fired off.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: It was great, I thought.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it and we didn't have any logistical problems.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't think we had any issues with the teams coming out.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's always a concern.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know how much of that is is athletics marketing doing us a solid and just saying, hey, hold on a minute, guys.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: We gotta, you know, and um in the Rage and Cajuns, you know, trying to avoid a further whooping in the second half, you know, we're we're willing to wait a minute or two.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I don't know.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see the kickers come out?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I saw them.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're on the uh side two kind of part over there when they were started to uh enter the field.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: I I saw I it's always fun there because I'm always looking out, you know.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm conducting and um checking in on the drum majors and I'm looking for the any players, and I look over and I see the kickers, and just one of them just looked and then like hit his buddy like, look at this.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, holy cow.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I thought what was what was super cool was they um, you know, I think Haley, the in-game NC, she talked about high school band-aid in the pregame interview.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you were able to catch that when you were doing it.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't catch it.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: I my mind was probably somewhere else.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's and no, I get it, and that's why I'm mentioning it.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I just wanted to mention to you that um they uh when she did her normal like um sort of pregame interview before Keeley interviewed Lincoln, she was out there and she's like, hey everybody, this game's gonna be great.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Here's what's going on.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: But also it's high school band day, and we're gonna have 2,000 high schoolers performing the halftime show um on the field.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: So make sure you stay in your seats, which I thought was a really, really cool piece of business that they went ahead and uh and mentioned that.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's really cool.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's really cool.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I thought I'm gonna take a minute right now, uh, and I figured I'd shout out these high schools one more time.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: Should we run run down the list?
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Run the list.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's ask, let's ask Brett.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: Brett, what do you think?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Should we run down the list of the high schools?
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: Let's give those kids their due.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: Give the kids their due.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: So once again, we had wait, hold on.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm gonna turn Brett off.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Casey taught me how to do this.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: Bye, Brett.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: There, now you're gone off the screen.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so we've got Anaheim High School, Bassett High School, Belmont High School, Cabrillo High School, Carson High School, Chino High School, Coachella Valley High School, Damien High School, Desert Mirage High School, Don Bosco Technical High School, Dwight D.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: Eisenhower High School, Faith Baptist Schools, George Washington Preparatory High School, Grand Terrace High School, Long Beach Jordan High School, Moder Day High School, Newport Harbor High School, Nogales High School, Palace Verdes Peninsula High School, Phineas Banning High School, Ramona High School, Roland High School, Santa Barbara High School, Sierra Vista High School, and South El Monte High School.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: Let's give a round of a round of applause to all of our high schools for coming out.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Super fun.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we have secret applause in the background.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: None of you can hear it, but I can see it.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because we got a special exciting guest with us today.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but the show for the high schoolers, um, I guess we'll do a quick rundown.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: We played Man I Need by Olivia Dean.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and do you remember Dante who recommended that tune to us, where that came from in the uh this was the the cafe as a as a whole.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: In this song, I listen, I didn't I'd never heard the song until y'all were like, hey, we want to do this one.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um so what was the uh do you remember some of the notes from the cafe, like kind of what deed them off on it and what what excited them about it?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'll start with the cafe.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: For those of you don't know, the cafe is the uh committee that helps brain chow all the shows that we put together.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um it used to be led by Chris, and then Chris kind of stepped back a little bit, and now he really just assists me with keeping this thing on track.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um, for those of you don't know Chris Norton, he's also a huge brain changer behind the team.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Who's Chris?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um our artistic input and our show designs and and things of that nature.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um so the cafe is a group of students that come together with staff that we put all our heads together and bang them against the wall to see what's gonna be the the good show to put out.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um we go through, we start with almost about 20 different ideas, and we have to come down to an average show a year, six to seven shows a year.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that's just what that crew is.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so we've got activity and fan experience.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: There it is.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's where Cafe came from.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: It was actually a a COVID um creation because we created it um at the you know, it was Remy Gilbo who was a huge help to us during the pandemic.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: But Remy and a few of the other students, um we we did it kind of as a way to entertain ourselves during during the pandemic, and then coming out of it, um, you know, Chris really had a big interest in it.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then you've been gracious enough to sort of to take the lead on it.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's not just shows, but it's rock charts, it's stand tunes, it's even adjusting things we already have.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, um, the third down widget came about from a uh collaborative discussion between, you know, as athletics, but then taking it back to the cafe.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: So sorry, sorry to interrupt, but a bit more context.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: So Man I Need, Olivia Dean.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that one, I was familiar with the tune, but I think that was one of those tunes like it was thrown out there and everybody's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody had heard the tune before.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it was almost a no-brainer.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I think this whole show ended up being that from the tunes the TMB played and also the tune that we play with the high school band-aid.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, I just think it was a great call on all these tunes, and they're really popular.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so it ended up just kind of being the songs of the summer.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: Bad bunny was a little older, but still banging throughout the summer, you know.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it was still a thing.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, you know what?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: The number one international recording artist, you know, Bad Bunny.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: I have I'm gonna admit, full disclosure, um Olivia Dean is not in the rotation on my Spotify.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: That I don't know if that comes as a shock to people.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, bad bunny, and not necessarily, you know, in the circles.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's because I don't speak enough Spanish.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: I say enough as if I speak any.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like I get as a native Southern Californian, like I've got some in there, but it's it's a shame I don't speak more.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, or just it just not flying around.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: Part of that is I have children and I let them decide what goes on the radio generally, which is a lot of, you know, um, I don't know if I don't know if this is shocking, but podcasts, they listen to a lot of like children's stories podcasts, which is a lot of fun.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um and a lot of kids bop.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I have heard some of these songs in the kids bop version, but you know, that that's a good gravy.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've ever, you know, I don't know how frequently you're on kids bop, Dante, but it's it's not at all.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's just like regular pop music, but they take out all the bad words and suggest suggestive content and then I remember these commercials when I was a kid coming on TV.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, they're I mean advertising these CDs.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: At least it's not so like we do listen to a lot of like Disney music, and we'll listen to like some of these, you know, what is it, the the duck song or the chicken banana.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've heard any of this crap, but it's not that it's uh it's at least the tunes, just with a little bit different, uh, a little bit different thing, just different vocals, different uh things.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: But um, there's a lot of that.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: But when the halftime show, that Bad Bunny halftime show was just it was killer, right?
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: I know you loved it.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was fantastic.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was just a great choice.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: Also, just from uh, I think even Sammy brought it up in the cafe, when you think about the students that we're serving at this event, um, it is a lot of brown students, and so to program music that kind of fits in with what they got going on in their day-to-day life, I think it was really cool to cater to that as well.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: It was yeah, super fun.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Just like when we've had um, I really think any any kind of cultural celebration, whatever it is, when when we did the celebration of funk, the 50th anniversary of hip hop, um, a few years ago, we did a big celebration of Latin and Hispanic culture and a halftime show.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I think any time we can kind of get in there and dig deep um is a lot of fun.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess looking ahead, we're celebrating pink culture at the first part of Homecoming.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that means.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the color pink and films that reference that, but you know, it's it's always always a good time.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um speaking of Sammy P, Sammy did a lot of work on the arrangement for the Bad Bunny, um for the Bad Bunny show.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: He really worked on the first tune, which I'm gonna pull up the title so I don't butcher the pronunciation, Baille in uh involvidable.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: And uh he really spent a lot of time with me in the spring working that arrangement over the summer.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then he wanted to bring in Nueva Yol and kind of make a a medley out of it.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: And in that back and forth, I kind of lost I lost him to drum core.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so it was trying to keep him on track with, you know, it's harder to keep kids on online with their homework when they're out of the when they're out of the house, you know what I mean?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and so working with him, but that was a great, I think that's a great example of the um how the cafe works because in talking to Sammy, we were connecting those two tunes, but really taking cues from the Super Bowl halftime show.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we're gonna get taken off the air for saying the word Super Bowl, so maybe you should bleep it out, Brett.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll you can ADR Brett in the big game over the top over the top of it.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um but um I was referencing that five, like that, because they have that on Spotify, the just the audio from the Super Bowl.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I was listening to that and using that, but there were these, there was this moment in it in the verse of Nueva Yol, where just this sort of um what's the word I'm looking for?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, not a cantus, what's this deskant line Nueva Yol over the top of it?
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that wasn't in the Super Bowl version.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Chris was like, You gotta have this.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then he played for me the original, and I'm like, oh.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think that's a great example for any budding arrangers out there listening or on the call to kind of know that it's always good to reference as much of the source material as you can so that you can you can you know find these little ideas.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of times when when you know, young arrangers come to me and they're like, hey, the pentatonics or somebody did this cool version of this song, sometimes you lose a little bit of that um that piece.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason I'm spending so much time talking about one lick is because when we were reading down um the Bad Bunny medley in front of Heritage Hall, there was this gaggle of trumpet alums over off to my left.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: And when we got to that part, they all sang along like I could hear them screaming it over the top of the trumpets playing it.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, ah, okay, see, it all comes together.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: It all works how it's supposed to work.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of fun.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: 2,000 high schoolers ripping it, bass drums, cranking on quarter notes.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: We got it done.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: We got it done.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: It was super cool.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: But the front half of the show, um, we played this tune, Where is my husband?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: Which um, I'll tell you what, if I got paid per note, I could retire after that one.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of licks in that bad boy.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that's that tune's been kicking.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: That song I knew about.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: That one's been kicking around for a hot minute.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: But then we opened the show, recycling drill from two weeks ago to make the pull a little easier on our students.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: But we had a different arrangement.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: We had a Bruno Mars tune called I Just Might.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't do that arrangement, Dante.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: Did you know this?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: I did know this.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: We had a guest arranger, and uh said arranger is actually with us today.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: So everybody, please give a warm welcome and say hello to Trombone Alum, former section leader Kobe Almeida, everyone.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Woo, Kobe.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, everyone.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: How are y'all doing?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: I Kobe, I need a little bit more energy out of you.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: I need some zip, some pep.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll try my best.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's very early.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: I've had a lot of coffee, so very early.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, we don't want to give away what time it is.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, Kobe, how are you?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: How are things?
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'm good.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm good.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: I just, I mean, a little tired, but we're good.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: We're good.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're okay.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you in the world?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: You look like you're in like a corporate office.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Right now I'm in uh the Levy library.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm in one of the study rooms.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so maybe that explains the the lack of volume in your voice, is you're not wanting to blast out those studying in Levy.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: What's what's the study environment in Levy like at a uh early Monday morning, right?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Are there is there anyone else in there?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is it just you?
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely no one.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: There's maybe like three people on the entire floor, and I think it gets even worse when you go up floors.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm in the basement right now.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: So um, Kobe, what is your most memorable?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Look at it.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: You're just giving me stuff to to pick at you about.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: What's your most memorable Levy library experience?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that's that's hard.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think honestly, last semester finals.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: Last semester finals, everybody was in here, and there was one day where we were staying up all night to study for an exam coming up in like a day and a half, and people bought pizza, and we were all just like sharing notes.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought like the community was really fun.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Now, when you say everyone, are you talking like in that class?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: You're talking the University of Southern California.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's who is the everybody?
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh just like there were people who like we had no idea like what the each other's names were until we got there and we found out, oh, you're studying for this class.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, here are my notes.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: And then we just we just started sharing notes, and it was just like a bunch of people who were taking that class, which is really it was a really popular class.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's required for a lot of majors.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: In what is it organic chemistry?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's uh Gen Bio 2.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: General Biology 2.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: So is is that where you learn about the Krebs cycle or was that General Bio 1?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: You do learn about it in Gen Bio 2.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: So Oh yes! We got it.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: What okay.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: So Kobe, what do you want to do when you grow up?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: What why are you torturing yourself with Gen Bio 2?
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I do want to become a doctor.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: What kind of doctor?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Jury's still out on that.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: I for a very long time I wanted to become a psychiatrist, but the more I like introduce myself to other things within the clinical like healthcare fields, the more I'm okay with other things.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: And it'll definitely change when I go to med school and actually start doing the things.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: But got it.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm open to anything.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, let me know when you need a rec letter for a medical school.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I will be calling, I will be calling.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get on me.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because listen up, I crank them out.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm great at them.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: I've got a pretty good track record for uh you now granted, maybe it's the grades, maybe it's the caliber of student at USC, but I'm gonna take all the credit for getting all these DME alumes into med school.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you want to be a doctor, very exciting.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: So that explains the Gen Bio2.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: So Kobe, you you did an arrangement.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: So what why did you want to arrange anything at all?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, where did where did that bug come from?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I started I wanted to learn how to arrange because I like love music and I've took a music theory class here at USC.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I was like, oh, I want to learn how to arrange.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I started with trombone like small ensemble arrangements, um, just of things that I liked uh to play.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like I did a lot of video game soundtrack arrangements, um, which was really fun.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: And then I just might specifically uh came in in like January when it got released, and I wanted to arrange that one.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the other trombones were like you should arrange it, you should arrange it.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: That would be so fun.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: We should play it.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nice.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I just might, just so folks know, that's the Bruno, it's Bruno Mars, I just might.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: And that was the tune we opened our halftime show with that we marched the drill to.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I said that on the on the thing yet, but so your trombone buddies are like, Kobe, you've got to arrange this one.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Who is the buddy?
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Which buddy was most on you about doing it?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Matthew Luna.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Matt Luna, let's go.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's a Bruno Mars, like die hard.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is he?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe should I bring him in on the after we do our Bruno Mars show and kind of and and pick his brain about Bruno Mars?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, if he's free, he's he does so many things.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: So I think you'd have a hard time finding him.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I see.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: But but I think it would be a good idea, honestly.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: All right, okay.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I just might, so Matt Luna, uh, what do you guys call him?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Baja, is that right?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: Baja.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Baja.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um see, I'm trying to learn.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to speak trombone.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the number of times I've been caught being taught the wrong name, though, is is it is offensive, but it's okay.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll get over it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: So Matt's on you.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: I just might.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: So when did you first like when did you first get into it?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: And then when did you first bug me for help?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: I started like the end of January writing it.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it was towards the beginning of the semester, so like I didn't have too much going on.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um but then over time I started to be like, hmm, this would sound really good for band.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then I started talking to Matt Luna and um Santiago, actually.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: And we were like, what if I did try to write it for band?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because I know in the past we've uh people have written stuff for the band and we've and we've played it.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, I kind of started in February, like building an arrangement for the band, and then in March, I think I reached out to you to spruce it up and get it going.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: So let me ask you this, Kobe.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: When so when we when we first met and we looked at the arrangement, and this is this is a I don't want to say it's a tale old as time, but this is how it goes.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Your the story is not too dissimilar from my story, right?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: As I I was writing this music and then I took it to Tony, and I'm like, what do you think?
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: And Tony was like, This sucks.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Let's fix it.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Now, granted, I don't think I said that to you necessarily, but um uh, and I will say, you you really, and I think it shows your experience coming into it, you were off to a really great start because you had done this trombone work, and I've had all kinds of different sort of like bandwidths of people coming in.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: And some people come in, and it's clear that they're able to, you know, maybe put music in finale or door or Sibalius or whatever it is, and it plays back and it sounds good on the playback, but it is, you know, either ranges or technique, or it's just stuff that doesn't work outside, right?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: The most notorious is usually the tuba.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's like people will write just these low, low, low, low tuba notes because it sounds great on the computer, but you're like, yeah, if they're all playing a pedal E, there's no volume there.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's just right, it's just sound out in there.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you really came in in a good place.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so you brought the arrangement to me.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna ask you to remember when you first showed it to me and we first like really went through it.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: What was something I said or a piece of advice I gave that was like kind of like you took and went, oh, I never thought of that.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: And what was something that made you feel like, hey, maybe I've got this figured out, like kind of the ends of the spectrum on the arrangement advice.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's funny that you mentioned the tuba because I remember that that was one of the problems that you mentioned first.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: You were like, the tuba's way too low, way too low.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um ding ding.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh just thinking about there was a lot of the like the way I had arranged it, like the form, um, you didn't have that many comments about it.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: You you said like, oh, it should be within like this much time.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it should you should like cut these sorts of things.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we looked at my arrangement and you're like, oh, you you got it.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: You you got it pretty much.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I I felt like that was good to know that I like I can at least think about um and like feel what the music's supposed to like sound like.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um but a lot of the nitty-gritty, like what sounds good um in between the parts, like like really most of the uh the harmonies, like the chords.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like I remember we talked a lot about uh it was like the first four measures, and you're like, oh, the flutes and clarinets should go here.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the saxes should go here.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and really thinking about like how to voice the chords correctly, I feel like that was the the hardest part for me.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that I mean, that's probably the hardest part for anybody.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Now I know Dante, you've done you do a little arranging here or there.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: What's like I do when when it's it's on the bottom of the list, but I I can do it if I have to.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: What's always the hardest part for you?
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: For me, it's um getting the courts, right?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: You can what you think you're hearing, something may be in the overtones or maybe actually coming out or actually being played.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of understanding what is in there, and so that's where lead sheets come in and help too.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: You can actually know what note is actually being played versus what note is coming out in the overtone series.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: And um I I think the biggest thing a lot of times that like, and I think Kobe, we talked about this with yours, um, is when there's a melody and it's like harmonizing that melody.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of folks they'll just they'll they'll follow that same outline of the melody and they'll do similar motion, or, or a lot of times they'll just arbitrarily do uh parallel motion, meaning they'll just they'll take that melody, transpose it down a third, then another third for the trumpets, and then they'll just have everyone move the exact same.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: And when you do that, what you introduce is you introduce non-chord tones.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: This is Brett, we're getting real in the weeds now.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know that's your favorite.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I tuned out a long time ago.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's where you you get into the you start introducing non-chord tones and whether or not um, and usually it's not on purpose or it's not intended, and that can really take an arrangement and um kind of introduce sounds that you're not wanting to be there, right?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so a lot of times I will take an approach or what I tell people is that hey, if you've taken music theory, which you did, Kobe, it's that all those things you learned in theory about uh SATB and keeping a voice.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: If if you don't have to change a note, don't.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's what happens in the trumpet parts a lot.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so you'll get these second trumpet parts that are just they'll repeat some notes and then shift down, repeat some other notes, and it's just beep, bow, beep, bab, b, bow.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it may not be that interesting for the player, but that's really what makes it work because we're maintaining the integrity of the chord tones throughout.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: And Kobe, I'm gonna compliment you one more time if I can.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Can I do that?
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: Go right ahead.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you're right.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: The form, the you nailed the form, and you really nailed a lot of the ranges as well.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like you came into it kind of having the range and the tessatura really kind of where it needed to be, not um, not over the top, not too uh tubas are probably the exception, but everyone make everyone messes that up.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: I still mess it up sometimes.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: I would argue that Tusk itself suffers from that because that tuba part is just so low.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I it takes, I mean, luckily the you know, the tenor saxes are doubling that baseline pretty much the entire time, but it really it's down there.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, those low D's and low A's, and they really got to jam to get it to match dynamically versus like something like Sunshine, which is you know, up right up in the staff, which is great.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: But the um, yeah, you came in, you had the ranges figured out, you had the form figured out, and that's always the thing that a lot of folks struggle with is finding the form, finding the key, and you really did it.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we can clap.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Let's clap for Kobe.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Let's give it up.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: All right, thank you.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, Kobe, now next question.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Are you ready?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna I'm gonna invite Bretton here in a hot minute so that he can comment too.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: So, Kobe, you're at the game.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: We're uh we're going into halftime.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know the song is first.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure your friend, I'm sure Matt Luna and Santiago are jacking you up, like oh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then we go to play it.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: What was it like for you hearing an arrangement you did for the first time make it to the airwaves in the Coliseum?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: It was honestly surreal.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, as surreal as it could be because it's so loud in the Coliseum.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, especially from where I was sitting.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: I was sitting in the student section, so it was not like towards the middle.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: But from what I did hear, it was crazy.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: I also didn't know that they said my name on the intercom, like the speaker.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: We did.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: We did.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: And that'll come through in the you know, the the YouTube recording, right?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: It'll, it'll, uh, it'll come out.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: And good news, uh, we'll announce you again when we do um uh the Bruno Mars show.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Not this week, but next.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: So you'll you'll get a second chance at life to hear your name get blasted out there.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: It moves to the closer.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Is it the closer?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it's the closer.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: What's the opener?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uptown funk?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Nice, nice.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, so that's so that's just something else.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you're in the student section.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: So what was the vibes in the student section?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Were they were they jamming, were they dancing, what were they doing?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, okay.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: The one thing about the student section is that during halftime, everybody sits down.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_06: Boo.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: And boo, boo.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: So, like coming out of band and then going into the student section, I was like, where is the energy?
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: Where is the energy?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm so used to um like we're in the stands and we're screaming and we're like playing all the time.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: So just going into the student section, I was like, this is underwhelming.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so most of the hot take.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: Is that a hot?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's not a hot take.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: I I uh yeah, I feel like it's not.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like most people know that the student section, they're they're just like aimlessly looking around and they're just there because everybody else is there, but they have fun.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I did see some people like like, oh, is that this song?
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so that was nice to hear.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta you gotta fight your way down, you gotta come sit by the knights because they're standing up, you know?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm sure you got some friends or the Helene's.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you got some friends in there, yeah.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: I can get myself in there.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: See, there you go.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you gotta do.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, uh, we'll make a call.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: Carter, Carter, help Kobe out.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, Aeroselli, what are we talking about?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Get your girl to help you out, you know?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Helene's.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: But very cool.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: So, Kobe, congratulations.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this is a lot of fun for me uh to work on these arrangements with the students and help you all figure it out.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you and I are gonna do some more studying this spring, yeah?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: Are we figuring that out?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, definitely.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, some some private lessons, some official on the books transcript kind of stuff.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh who knows, maybe this will be a side hustle for you in the future.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: While you're out there saving lives, you can save their emotional lives through the power of music as well.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I definitely don't want to let go of this skill.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome, awesome.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Kobe, thanks for uh thanks for tuning in.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, this was a lot of fun.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, Brett.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm gonna bring Brett into the fray.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Brett.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, look at that.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: You got a whole transition too, Brett.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Brett, do you want Kobe to stick around for our our our fun and games, shenanigans?
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think he uh he could weigh in.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: He can weigh in as well, all right.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna bring Casey.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't heard from Casey in a minute.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: Casey, how was the halftime show to you?
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Did you enjoy it?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: I did.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_04: I did.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_04: I watched the VOD, it was great.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: VOD, uh, that's video on demand.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: Where did you find said demand video, Casey?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: In the production folder.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, so not VOD.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: What you watch, what you watched was a video, a film, a reel, as you might as you might say.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's way quicker to just say VOD, so we abbreviate all video now to VOD in the context of a podcast.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: This is my this is the theme of the day.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: The we.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: You and Kobe just throwing out we's like who the hell?
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_04: Who we we the netizens, the the netizens.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: The netizens.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Casey, can I can I throw you under the bus a little bit?
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because you got you got me made a fool out of myself.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: Ow.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: I re so I referenced a white monster as a fridge ciggy, like you often do for the stream-a-thon.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: And some youthful person looked at me like I was absolutely out of my mind.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you talking about?
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, first of all, it's all over the internet.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_04: Just ask anybody.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Second of all, all over the internet you're on, this dark web that you're frequently.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: Who is this youthful, this allegedly?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was a band student.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: They the band students have their fingers on the pulse of contemporary society.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: These are the cream of the crop of the world.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_04: They use TikTok instead of Google search.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_04: They know nothing about Kobe.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: Is that true?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: Do you use Google search, Kobe?
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: I do use Google search.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: I would like to say though, I have heard of a white monster as a fridge thing.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but look how cool you are, Kobe.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: You're out here, like you, you've got cool hair, you got a nose ring.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like you are like you're up there as someone who would know these things.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: Dante, if you Kobe, what you're saying is I'm right.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Don't Kobe, don't do that.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Don't play into this.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so we've in these in these podcasts, we prepare a B segment, uh, the back the back side of the record, as it were.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I've come up with some of the talking points.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: But this week, um, because I didn't do my homework and Brett said, What are we doing?
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: I said, You figure it out, Brett.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, Brett, what's the uh what's the what are we doing?
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: What are we talking?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: So, since we're uh headed on the road this week, I thought it'd be fun to do favorite New York memory.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have one because you've never been.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh most most uh exciting airplane experience.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_03: I was just gonna do your favorite road trip or your favorite stadium that you've been to.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's not obviously the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, and maybe a good or bad memory or both of uh a bad road trip.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: Who wants to go first?
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: Which is the letter of special guests go first.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Kobe, go ahead, Kobe, you take it away.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: So the first question was favorite uh stadium?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'd say honestly, going to the Rose Bowl to go to go against uh UCLA.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's honestly so fun to just go there and destroy them.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's pretty much it.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: Also, it's a it's a pretty cool stadium.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like when I'm there, I've been there like a couple times that was not for going against UCLA.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's just a cool stadium.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then I 100% have a bad memory, was when uh we went against Illinois, and it was so hot.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: That was the only time that I've almost passed out.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember I had to sit down, I had to take my jacket off.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: I remember, I remember this, Kobe.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm usually not the type, I'm usually not the type to ever pass out because I feel like I'm well hydrated, but that was scary.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was a shockingly hot game.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um and yeah, you I was I was a little worried about you.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like Kobe, of all, of all people.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you know the background of that game, if I if I if I may interject a little bit on that Illinois game, they last minute moved our seats.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: We were sitting amongst our people, and then the week of the game, they moved us and we were surrounded by Illinois people up in the nosebleeds.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know how it is in in these old Big Ten stadiums, like there's it's not like seats, it's benches, and we were just like sardines crammed.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: And uh luckily they weren't as mad as the Michigan fans um the year prior.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was shockingly, shockingly warm.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um but we did it.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: We won.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: Did we win that game?
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: We did not.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we lost by like one point.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Dang.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's not you know, it's sometimes those things like at least when you win, you're like, ah, but we won, you know.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: Bummer.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but it was okay, cool.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's Kobe.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_01: All right, who wants to go next?
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'll go.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think I'll start with the bad news.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think the worst stadium, just because the fan base can be a little not so pleasant at times, is Oregon.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um everyone was not surprised.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that stadium there is doesn't don't really like going there, just for that very reason.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um great environment when you don't have to interact with the fans.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: You look at the smaller stadium, but it gives off this big vibe.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's really cool until they start to have to speak to you, and then you're like, yeah, this is not a cool place.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um but so that would kind of make that one that.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: But I have not experienced the my favorite one yet, and I think I'll get a chance this year when I go to Penn State and we do the wine out game.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's kind of top 10, top five, maybe top three, arguably, in some people's debate.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: One of the biggest games in color sports.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I'm looking forward to that.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so I don't have a favorite yet.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think that one's probably gonna be the the one yeah.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: Washington's nice.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: I will say, even though we're in the rafters, looking out at the the water is like really dope.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm because I know you and I talked because we're like figuring out well, really, it's me figuring out what games am I gonna do.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and gosh, that Penn State game, I was just like, ugh.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: I really wanted to do it.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I know you you and the band director there, you guys are you're buds, you have history together.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so I thought I was like, nah, this is he's gotta go.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta go.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it, man.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so let me know how the whiteout is.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: What's Brett?
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: What's the seating capacity at Penn State?
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know?
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_03: I do not, but I'll look it up right now.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably clear, it's gotta be up upwards of a hundred thousand or right on the phone.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it's open one 102, 103, or something like that.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_03: 109.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: 109.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry, one 106 going to 109 after the current renovations.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it'll it's gonna be full.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be packed.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we'll see when you hit them with that 75th tribute to Troy.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, of course.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: It is on like Donkey Kong.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh nice.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right, uh, Casey, what about you?
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: What's what are you what are your two?
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Your favorite stadium and uh kind of a fun memory.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm with I'm with Dante on this one.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_04: The worst stadium I've ever been to at any sport by far is Odson Stadium.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_04: The fan base is atrocious.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_04: Disliverytes, everything they stand for.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the sophomore trip in 2009, particularly.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_04: We we went into the game, we lost the game, the Halloween game.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the the crowd rushed the field.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_04: Then they started to come and try to get to us, and that's when our security DPS said, Hey, it's time to leave.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_04: And so we left, and they crowded around the buses while we were trying to get out of there.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_04: And one guy threw a full plate of spaghetti at the window of the bus, and it impacted right by where I was sitting, and I just had to watch that spaghetti slide down the bus for the 14-hour bus ride back.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, worst experience, worst fan base.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_04: Can't believe they're with us in the Big Ten.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_04: Worst decision ever.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_04: Best thing, best thing, definitely, even though the the trip was very short, uh, was the Rose Bowl 2017 beating Penn State on the last second field goal.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_04: That's by far the best, the best sporting event memory that I have, period.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_04: It surpasses even the mandate I had with Jonathan Fitch Polberg in Pullman, Washington when we went to the three bridges before the uh the game against the Cougars.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe Casey, you may have helped me identify why I hate the bathroom so much.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because that game, I almost missed the ending of that game because one of the mellowphone players had to go to the bathroom so bad.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, I gotta go.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, dude, like, what are you doing?
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: And we cannot.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: We I can't.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, I have to.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: And we walked down and like the entire time I'm just berating him, like, can you just risk kidney failure and so we can see this game?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you doing?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so we ended up, and I and he, he, he, if you're out there, alum, you know who you are.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I I love you very, very much.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: And we got and we stopped, and he's like, Okay, okay, and we stopped like before we got into the tunnel, and then we saw the big play, and he's like, Thank God.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then we ran, he peed, we came back, and we didn't miss to celebrate.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: But like, we it so maybe that's it.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: You helped me identify this trauma why uh I'm not I'm no longer invited to bathroom logistic discussions with the TMB.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Brett, how about you, Mr.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: Question Asker?
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I think this got way more negative than I intended.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a lot of hate on Otson.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm yeah, which is fair.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's very fair.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm this is not my answer, but I'm gonna jump in on Otson.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: My the my third year in the band, that trip was to Audsen.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we went to Oregon.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's you know, and uh by then I was the only remaining member of this class.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Really, that happened my first year in the band.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: So it was me, and then um this melephone player named uh Matt's, he was with me, the two of us were were the horn section for this game.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: And that was the 2011 Lane Kiffin game where we we won that game.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: He was wearing this full we we should have known what kind of shenanigans he was gonna get himself into because he had this like full-length white down trench coat that he was wearing to the game.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and we won.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think we won that game.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: They missed a field goal.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is that right, Brett?
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: Is my history right off?
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you could you could hear the kick goes up and just this oddson, and then it just became negative sound when they realized it was missing, and then the sliver of USC just was even louder than that.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: And we for post-game, we played zero rock charts, we played Conquest 14 times for every senior, and I never thought my face was gonna fall off more than in that game, but it was just it was Matt Barkley, it was ah, what a what a way to give it to him.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the last time I went to Oregon.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: And if I never have to go back, that'd be great.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so so Brett, what's your uh what are what are your answers to these questions?
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say my favorite stadium um is uh is in Colorado.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um cannot think of the the cityum right now of Folsom Field, which is great.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: Just a beautiful place.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_03: They put us down near the field, right next to the uh the pen where Ralphie is, so it kind of smells, but it's kind of part of the part of the experience too though.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: But it's just a beautiful place.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we've got great seats.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: We never lose there.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: We've literally never lost to Colorado, so that's great.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: Just a cool place to go.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: I like I really like um going to Boulder.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: I do have a favorite I don't have a favorite memory per se but I just love the idea.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: I love the feeling of getting back on the bus after a win and you know you're you're munched on your band which everyone's you know really hyped and excited and it's just a great feeling of relief after four or five hours of of you know supporting the team.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_03: I just think that's always a great feeling and just getting on the bus and riding back to the hotel um I really enjoy that.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I do have a worst memory.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah uh well two actually one is when I had mono and missed the entire Colorado game one year at Denver.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's why you you gotta quit sharing water bottles and using public drinking fountains, Brett.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah I know I do.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: I well I just go up to kiss everybody and then they're like stop go away.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah no I get it.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh no but the uh But that's why like I mean but that's how we greet each other in the office right it's very European my worst memory and this is actually my I don't know I might have to cut this because I'm the editor so I can cut it if I like but I was we did this the game I think it was 20 I think it was 2010 in um Hawaii.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah and uh we you weren't on that trip though correct no but you know who was my better half Mrs.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: Vogel was there yeah yeah yeah the notorious MRS there we go we uh so we we had to do this um Hawaii 500 gig in the morning and it was like a a filming on the that was the morning of the game yes ooh okay it was a morning of the game no uh Dr.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_03: Bartner did not go because he had the game later that day so I was in charge of um doing the actual shoot so we had this long shoot on the beach it came out cool like if you've seen the video I think it came out pretty cool.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Oh it's really cool yeah yeah um and uh we did that we did the game which was hot of course because it's Hawaii and then I get get back and I went to the band hotel I was actually staying at a different hotel because my mom and my brother were there um and then I just started I had the worst shakes um I was cold and I realized I was severely dehydrated oh yeah just so bad like laying in bed and trying to stay warm um and I'm like well I gotta get back to my hotel eventually and so it was you know maybe a mile and a half walk from between the two hotels on Waikiki Beach and um I uh may or may not have um pooped myself on the way back to the hotel.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_03: Classic shocks wowzers yeah so it was a it was a squeezy squeeze myself and run back to the hotel kind of night but that was I was so dehydrated it really taught me you need to hydrate or you hydrate.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah hydration is very important.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: And this was 2010 we were still this was still the pre-Stanley era right like you only had a null I think null gene was the water bottle right but only like hiking people we didn't get those though on the road we had like a water bottle or a cup of water and you know wasn't enough not enough not enough water but um wow Brett what a what a thrilling story captivating yeah now I can decide whether to cut that later you uh yeah well maybe we'll add it to the cold open and what happened to Brett in Hawaii yeah did he keep dancing Hawaii wow um look at that two bathroom stories on the fourth podcast already oh man you wowzers all right so my it's funny Brett you and I have this in common my favorite stadium to visit is also Colorado um and it it in it play is to like your point it's the view right and so when you arrive to that Colorado it like the the mountains don't even look real like it just seems like you're looking at like a Patagonia jacket like the the printing of it's just so beautiful um and it's a great environment you know I I got to see a game pre Deion Sanders and post Deion Sanders and it's just it's really cool.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: And they have this great event in Boulder on Friday night where the band comes into the city and all of the restaurants everybody's hanging out the team does a parade through the city and the band plays it's it's really really cool like it really feels like the entire community comes out to support the whole effort.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: It has that real small town vibe but just the view is beautiful and like Brett said it's fun to win you know it's you know and seeing Coach Prime be grumpy you know that's a good time you know bring him down a notch um my my favorite memory and it's it's a little bit negative but they they deserve it is our last trip to Cal.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: The last one and um this was we're there it's our last time in the Pac 12 and cal being Cal decides I think it's like a week and three days before the game I get a call from the athletic director saying hey Cal called uh they're not gonna let you perform on the field at all at the game and so me being me and realizing that Cal uh they just this is what they do.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: They they they like to uh kill themselves with bureaucracy.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: So what I did is I called our the president at the time Carol Folt and I'm like hey here's what they're doing she's like well this isn't good so then we had her write an email to their chan to the chancellor copying their AD saying what is this this trip is planned you've already promised them why are you being such ding dongs figure it out and so then a couple days later I got an email back from their AD saying uh okay we'll let you perform and uh you know and you didn't have to take it all the way to the chancellor's office and uh and I'm like oh I sure did because uh you had it coming and you deserve this and this is a terrible place if you could tell I've got a lot of a lot of my bad memories come from Cal a lot of disdain um not Matt not Matt though Matt the band director up there he and I we're cool I like Matt I like what he does I I like talking to him but the I it's just it's no shortage of drama up there and so me being a brat and a petulant you know person we did perform at halftime but we turned our back on the press box we used as little of the field as possible and we just played a standstill show for our alumni and just and we didn't let anyone else in the stadium uh enjoy our music we just played for them so that was that was nice but that's also the game Kobe I don't know if you were I think you were there were you there for this game Kobe I was there like yeah so then this was also the game where again classic cal they uh there was a protest pre-game and so uh a couple of Cal students pretended to be photographers for the coin toss and then after the coin toss they took off the photographer uniform and they had their their protest great for them and they sat down and did a sit-in at the 50 yard line meanwhile the Cal band is loading back into the stands and I'm watching this and I go this seems like a perfect opportunity to play tribute to Troy and so I started tribute and when I realized they weren't moving we kept playing it and we kept playing it over and over and over and then eventually the cow band is settled and Matt looks over at me like hey you want us to play and I look at him like no I'm not gonna stop.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so we played tribute to Troy 12 times and then when they finally put those students in handcuffs ching boom fight on and then we played them off the field and um it was a a great start to a game very memorable very positive for me maybe not positive for them but I loved it.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of my favorite memories and then we won that game if memory serves and just 5150 5150 what a great that was a score ending to our our our efforts with Cal and we left them on a win um our last weekender up to San Francisco for the time being who knows maybe it'll come back in the future I don't know but uh that that's there you go Brett that's my answer when we when we just opened up the game with 12 tribute to troys and a fight on I knew that would be your answer to be honest.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: Did you yes the Oregon game is a close one no but I just know that you love the that you you love to hate Cal.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: So they do they just oh they get under my skin you know probably in the same way Oregon gets under your skin Dante I bet it's probably yeah it's a it's it's um that was the first time I kind of experienced that and I was like whoa this is wild.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know it's funny for me the irony you know when um when when Dr.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: Floyd stopped started working here she's like where does all this like she looked at like where does all this upset this hatred this anger come from like as if we have anything to do with it and I'm like that's just this is the Pac 12.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: This is just what it was like there was just this this ire this steam between the teams I'll tell you what the I've you know I've been to Oregon as part of the band I don't really remember like what I was just in it you know I don't know what people were saying but I've never been called more names than at Oregon State actually um because Olin up there he's very gracious our last trip up there he invited me to conduct the national anthem and at the time they were doing construction so their stadium the entire basically instead of putting the students in a column they set it up so that the first five rows of the half stadium they had available was the student section.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: So you got to imagine that the entire stretch of the sideline is just all students and I think that's great environment.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's a really good idea for them.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I was walking to go do the national anthem and these Oregon State students see me, they're just woo they were giving it to me.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: They were really laying into me they were saying words that I didn't think we were allowed to say anymore and uh and it was it was pretty cool.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot of fun to catch that kind of to catch those edges up there but uh but a fun a fun national anthem to play and uh to conduct and just a wonderful opportunity some student told me it was the worst national anthem and why would I ruin the national anthem for them um which is great.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's not true and that's what's and it but it doesn't matter that's college sports.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to be true.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just the heckling is what's most important.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah good stadium stories good topic Brett way to go thanks we're going really long though are we no we're at 55 minutes and 55 seconds right when you said that so uh so we should yeah wrap this up huh we should wrap it up so Kobe thanks for jumping in congratulations on your uh your thanks for having me of course your TME day debut maybe we'll invite you back for TM banter at another date we'll see how we'll see how it goes.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see if the audience wants more Kobe.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: If you want more Kobe get in the comments let us know want more Kobe uh hear what he's got going on see what other finals he's struggling with um in his studies.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_01: Dante thank you again for high school band day um you're welcome man you did it you did it 2000 people on and off we we got it done um it happened it was great it was a lot of fun uh casey thank you welcome and uh and Brett great topic way to be way to be my guy you're welcome so folks thanks for tuning in uh please like and subscribe follow us on the social medias wherever you find the podcast Spotify Apple Podcast just get in there subscribe it'll get automatically in your feed listen give us some five star ratings don't waste your time don't go in there and like really dig into it like hmm what did I maybe I maybe they they didn't really hit the topic I wanted to just give it five stars knock it off rate it five stars get after it and uh thanks all for tuning in this has been TM banter and fight on everybody fight on fight on fight on AC didn't give us a fight on there it is everybody