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THE BARE MINIMUM ? · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Audie Clark aka Mummy,
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  Speaker 1: and my partner in crime is the Jake Craig aka Daddy,
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  Speaker 1: who's still not here, but we're just thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the longest break we've ever had
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  Speaker 1: from each other. It's well over a month. But next
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  Speaker 1: week we are back together in normal recordings and that
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  Speaker 1: will be the first episode back as this episode is
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  Speaker 1: still another trip down memory lane. I really liked the
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  Speaker 1: last one and how it turned out, I guess just
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  Speaker 1: a bit of reflection and today's episode Jake has actually picked.
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  Speaker 1: a week or two. But getting to the episode today, guys,
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  Speaker 1: Jake has picked it. He said, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: it and he said, I was like, oh, what's a
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  Speaker 1: good episode that like you really remember, like left the
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  Speaker 1: mark in your brain, And he said, the first time
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  Speaker 1: we did the Bare Minimum four men. So this episode
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  Speaker 1: came out in twenty twenty four on the thirteenth of May,
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  Speaker 1: so it's a long time ago. And this kind of
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  Speaker 1: started a bit of a snowball effect because the Bare
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  Speaker 1: minim for men went super viral for us, which we
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  Speaker 1: are very grateful for. And I think we got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of new listeners from that. So we owe quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit to the Bare Minimum four Men. And also,
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  Speaker 1: I just guess the concept itself is I guess, sort
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  Speaker 1: of putting men in their place, but also uplifting them
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  Speaker 1: and telling them to raise their standards, like come on,
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  Speaker 1: come on, so Battis, we will see you next week
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  Speaker 1: back in our normal studio, but please enjoy the Bare
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  Speaker 1: Minimum for Men. Coming up on relatables was the bare
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  Speaker 1: minimum for the modern man being there for cuddle time.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that as much as we aren't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I actually liked so. The bare minimum for the modern
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  Speaker 2: woman is it's okay to be the big experience, sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Relatable. You are listening to relatables. Welcome back, everybody to
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  Speaker 1: another episode today. I am joined on my right by
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  Speaker 1: my better looking, shorter mister Jake Craig. That's started so good.
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  Speaker 2: And to my left is the non car door opening
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  Speaker 2: for his girlfriend Oddie class Hey, don't expose me, I
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  Speaker 2: would like to point out, I don't. We went out
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  Speaker 2: for dinner, Oddie.
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  Speaker 1: My girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, Oddie, his girlfriend, me, my girlfriend, and some
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  Speaker 2: other friends.
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  Speaker 3: We were leaving, okay, I could see. I could see
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  Speaker 3: them going to their car, and I could see that
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  Speaker 3: he had forgotten, although he never does it, he had
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  Speaker 3: forgotten to open her door for her. And then as
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  Speaker 3: soon as I noticed she was going to have to
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  Speaker 3: open it, it was too late.
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  Speaker 1: I had to.
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  Speaker 2: Called him out.
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  Speaker 1: That's how did to help?
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  Speaker 2: You?
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  Speaker 1: See what I did?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So you jump in and open it through the other side,
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  Speaker 2: you sucking cheat?
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  Speaker 1: Still did it? Wow? I do do it when I
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  Speaker 1: pick it up in her house because it's like I remember,
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  Speaker 1: because as we're walking out of her house, you get
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  Speaker 1: out yeah, you see her card office her cardof First,
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  Speaker 1: I would like to point out that we went and
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  Speaker 1: picked up a puppy, yes the other day, and we
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  Speaker 1: didn't take my car.
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  Speaker 2: So my car, I drive a little tiny car, do
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to drive a three hours on the
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  Speaker 2: freeway and but my car doesn't doesn't have the clickie fob.
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  Speaker 2: I have to go manually, and so it works in
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  Speaker 2: my advantage because I always remember to open the door
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  Speaker 2: for her. Okay, But we used my girlfriend's dad's car,
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  Speaker 2: and the first, like the morning we were leaving, was
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  Speaker 2: the first time we were getting in it. I went
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  Speaker 2: over and I realized. I was like, oh, I can
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  Speaker 2: open it from here. And I opened it and I
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  Speaker 2: had forgot. I was about to go open my door
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  Speaker 2: and I forgot, and she also had like forgotten, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how I did. I quickly locked it
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  Speaker 2: again and she tried to open it and it wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I went around. I was like, just be patient, and
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  Speaker 1: so she didn't even know you forgot. I was about
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  Speaker 1: to say, your key technique is kind of a cop out.
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  Speaker 2: Is it, though? Because I don't forget. No, because you
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  Speaker 2: have to do it anyway. You have to unlock her car. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if I unlocked my door, it opens all the doors.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I can open So I do still
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  Speaker 2: go open her door first?
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  Speaker 1: Give you that? Yeah, how fun. I'll get better. But Jake, today,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to start things with what's the bare minimum
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  Speaker 1: for the modern man? Yeah? And I thought, because things
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  Speaker 1: are changing in society, the standard for men is very different. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I thought we could compose a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: list to help the dudes out there. I think that I.
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  Speaker 2: Think there's there is some some women out there that
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  Speaker 2: are saying like, no, no, no, I need I need
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  Speaker 2: more than the bare minimum. Right, So we would like
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  Speaker 2: to give you, guys, guys and girls the bare minimum
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  Speaker 2: so you know that that's what you deserve.
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  Speaker 1: And more exactly. Yeah, you want to start on me,
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  Speaker 1: you go first. Okay, what's the bare minimum for the
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  Speaker 1: modern man? Planning romantic dates? Often?
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  Speaker 2: Hey? I like that simple. It's not hard, it's not hard.
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  Speaker 2: It's really okay if you really think about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: some guys are just like, oh, I don't like doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think who doesn't actually enjoy going out
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  Speaker 2: for a nice dinner and you're also not doing it
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  Speaker 2: for them? Yeah, you're not doing it for yourself. You
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  Speaker 2: do it for them. And this is what you do.
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  Speaker 2: TikTok nice nice restaurants wherever you live in my area.
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  Speaker 2: Someone's made a video about it online book two weeks,
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  Speaker 2: five minutes maximum.
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  Speaker 1: And who doesn't like nice food? I love the.
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  Speaker 2: Act of actually going out, getting dressed up together, looking
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  Speaker 2: good together, gassing each other.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a couple. I've got a few simple ones
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  Speaker 2: and a few like a little bit more intricate, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go simple first, the bare minimum for the
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  Speaker 2: modern man buy her flowers?
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  Speaker 1: Love it? Yeah? Simple? And again I've got the similar
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  Speaker 1: one I said, grocery shopping. Flowers are little gifts here
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  Speaker 1: and there randomly, just pick them up. It's not hard,
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  Speaker 1: it's not hard at all.
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  Speaker 2: And it's always like, yeah, but what's she gonna get me?
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  Speaker 2: What's the guy version of flowers?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: Fucking nothing? We don't need that ship.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, we've done it before. We've asked everyone what's the
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  Speaker 2: guy with fucking nothing?
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  Speaker 1: Just fair? I like that one. What's the bare minimum
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  Speaker 1: for the modern man? Being an emotional outlet for your girl?
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  Speaker 2: Oh when she's venting. No logical solutions, all right, no
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  Speaker 2: logical solutions. Be there emotionally, yes, be there emotionally bare
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  Speaker 2: minimum for the modern man. Look at what face creams
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  Speaker 2: and other ship she uses. All right, and buy her
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  Speaker 2: a double to have in your bathroom. Wow, pack atoletry's
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  Speaker 2: bagge all the time.
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  Speaker 1: That's so smart, that's all. Imagine you did that, and
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  Speaker 1: then in.
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  Speaker 2: Your bathroom she's You're at her house, maybe she's packing
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  Speaker 2: a bag to come to your house, and you're and
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  Speaker 2: she's and she's packing up. You're like, well, you don't
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  Speaker 2: need that. You don't need that, you don't need that.
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  Speaker 2: She's like why, and she's like, I have it at
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  Speaker 2: my house for you. The only thing with that. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: it's very very expensive that stuff. I'm talking just like
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  Speaker 2: face creams, like face wash.
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  Speaker 1: I would even just say toothbrush and toothpaste, stuff like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just simple things. I wouldn't go.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I'm thinking like if it's if it's over thirty bucks, if.
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  Speaker 1: You really loves it, some of those creams get us
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  Speaker 1: like two hundred dollars. It's fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got that Keels. Shit, I'm not paying I'm
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  Speaker 2: not playing for keels.
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  Speaker 1: What's the bare minimum for the modern man kind of
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  Speaker 1: goes in hand with the last one. Being in touch
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  Speaker 1: with your emotions. Yeah, being able to talk about how
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  Speaker 1: you feel. Yeah, that's a big struggle for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, yeah, sometimes it's a little scary. I think
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  Speaker 2: the biggest thing for me is the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: makes me not want to talk about feelings, Like, one
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest things is that I just I'm so
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit scared about how they will react
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  Speaker 2: because I don't want to word it improperly. Oh you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, not being able to articulate it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be like, oh you do this.
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  Speaker 1: I might even changed being in touch with your feelings
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  Speaker 1: to trying to be in touch with your feelings. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the effort in trying to talk about
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  Speaker 1: your feelings and they should appreciate that, even if you
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  Speaker 1: do spit it out wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed, bare minimum for the modern man went
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  Speaker 2: at a restaurant pull her chair out for her?
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  Speaker 1: Is that it? That's it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Just agree, gentlemen being a gentleman and pull the chair.
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  Speaker 1: Agree, What is it.
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  Speaker 2: When you're going up as a dude. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what goes on in your mind. It's not is it
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  Speaker 2: not cool? Like when I was eighteen nineteen twenty, There's
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  Speaker 2: no way in the world I'll be doing something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Is it because I'm not confident? I honestly think it's
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  Speaker 2: just because I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: But I knew the thing of romantics, Like you pull
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  Speaker 1: the chair, I knew the chair.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been afraid to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think I just always forget. I've never I've never
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  Speaker 2: thought that.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was afraid. No afraid.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I was never afraid. I was just
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  Speaker 2: always I just forgot it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny.
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  Speaker 2: It's also a little bit awkward as all, because it's like,
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  Speaker 2: so when you pull it out and she sits down,
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  Speaker 2: do you then help her push it back in or
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  Speaker 2: do you just let her scooch in on her own.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Russ from friends do it and he like
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  Speaker 1: scooches you back in and it looks so awkward. We
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be like, what's the bare minimum for
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  Speaker 1: the modern man being there for cuddle time? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I like that as much as we aren't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I actually like that cuddle, so I'm hidden
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  Speaker 1: miss Yeah, I'm sometimes there for it, sometimes not, but
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  Speaker 1: being there for them because they like cut of time.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of the thing they grow fonder when they're together. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's in those moments of cuddling, whereas where grow fonder
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  Speaker 1: when we're apart. Yeah, agreed, agreed, I do agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of though, like I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of you're a bit of a big teddy bear. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like I don't know, just acting like
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  Speaker 2: a baby almost.
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  Speaker 1: Like you should add on yours the bare minimum for
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  Speaker 1: the modern man. It's okay to be the little spoon.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay to be.
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  Speaker 2: The bare minimum for the modern woman. Is it's okay
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  Speaker 2: to be the big spirit sometimes bare minimum for the
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  Speaker 2: modern man. When you're done your meal at the restaurant
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  Speaker 2: and she has a few bites left because you're always
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  Speaker 2: going to finish before her, Yeah, you say you need
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  Speaker 2: the bathroom, but you actually go pay the bill.
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  Speaker 1: Yours are like just cheeky little things that are really smart.
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  Speaker 1: That's really good because normally they're like, oh no, i'll
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  Speaker 1: pay this, you want to split it? Let's avoid the awkwardness.
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  Speaker 2: And then like basically, when you come back from the toilet,
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  Speaker 2: she's done, you just like how you're ready to go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then you get up to go and she goes,
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  Speaker 2: what about the bill?
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  Speaker 1: And sorted. You know, that's one thing wrong with that me.
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  Speaker 1: If she goes what about the bill, I'll be like,
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  Speaker 1: let's run. I just paid it. So she was like,
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  Speaker 1: but then I seem like a bad boy. True.
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  Speaker 2: True, he also looks cheap.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, bad boy overrules. The cheapness was the bare
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  Speaker 1: minimum for the modern man. Knowing what you want in
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  Speaker 1: your future.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh that's such a good point. Every guy's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, I don't know what I want. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: with the flow. Yeah, the words don't.
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  Speaker 1: They don't lie like that. No, they just want to
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  Speaker 1: know that.
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  Speaker 2: They at least want to know if you plan to
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  Speaker 2: get married one day, you want kids, and you want
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  Speaker 2: to buy a house, or just the simple things.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you don't tell them like say I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, from the start, I don't be like, oh I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, you know, like you'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: I actually really like that that's a really good one,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm definitely guilty of doing it in the past,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know, I don't know I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be in two months, I don't know where I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be in a year, and just.
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  Speaker 1: Giving them all this like you're going to be with me,
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  Speaker 1: even I've never realized used to do that as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I don't know what I'm doing this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't even know what to have
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  Speaker 2: for breakfast.
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  Speaker 1: All right, bare minimum for the modern man? Tell us
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  Speaker 1: she looks beautiful, Yes, you are beautiful. Tell her she
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  Speaker 1: looks beautiful. Man, pretty beautiful, stunning, gorgeous, smart, anything like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's go intellectual as well. Yeah, let's go smart, impressive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. I'm proud to be your boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: I'm lucky to be both. I'm lucky to be your boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: I admire you all that different stuf. Yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: love you.
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  Speaker 1: Rolls off the tongue. Dude, what's the bare minimum for
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  Speaker 1: the modern man? Being able to take candid photos of
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  Speaker 1: them without the masking? Okay, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to say, yes, that is something that
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  Speaker 2: you should be able to do. Try again with the
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  Speaker 2: try at least it's the effort being put in that
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  Speaker 2: they will like. They will like the effort. And if
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  Speaker 2: they say, oh, what are you taking photos for? Maybe
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  Speaker 2: and like just be like, just say that you want
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  Speaker 2: them for you.
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  Speaker 1: Because I have.
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  Speaker 2: A theory and I'm really sticking to it that girls
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  Speaker 2: tell you that the photos you take are bad and
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  Speaker 2: you have to take a million of them purely because
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  Speaker 2: you're a boy and social media has told them the
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  Speaker 2: boys can't take photos. I tend to agree, because I
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  Speaker 2: swear to God, what I really want to do is
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  Speaker 2: get me to take a photo her best friend to
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  Speaker 2: take a photo, all right, the exact same one, all right,
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  Speaker 2: and I want and she's gonna like the best friends
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  Speaker 2: one for some reason, and she's gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Hay mine and that's the exact same photo, exact same photo.
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  Speaker 1: Bare minimum for the modern man. Send her funny memes. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's like another level to the relationship, and and reply
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  Speaker 1: to her.
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  Speaker 2: You should have put that one. Reply to her memes
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: another one, bare minim for the modern man. When she
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  Speaker 2: sends you a text message of two questions in a row,
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  Speaker 2: answer both of them. Don't just answer the most recent one.
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  Speaker 1: Have you been caught out doing that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I fucking suck at that.
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  Speaker 1: I need to answer both because on text on my
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  Speaker 1: message you can like click up the thing reply to
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  Speaker 1: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty Look, I'm pretty good at it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good at it.
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  Speaker 2: The person I'm not good at it with is my sister.
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  Speaker 1: So at it doesn't matter. What's the bare minimum for
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  Speaker 1: the modern man making an effort with their friends? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: to know them.
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  Speaker 2: Ship, that's a good I would say I lack in
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  Speaker 2: that area.
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  Speaker 1: I think so too a little bit. It's just like,
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  Speaker 1: as a guy, I can definitely do better. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know, just I don't know why we
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  Speaker 1: don't do it. Yeah, I don't have an answer.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of want just making an effort of you
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  Speaker 2: want to be part of their life.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's not just being there, being present.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if they have no friends and come lucky,
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  Speaker 2: I'm our only friend.
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  Speaker 1: My last one is bare minimum for the modern man.
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  Speaker 2: Just use your brain, use your just in the situation
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  Speaker 2: you're in, Just just use your brain.
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  Speaker 1: Please. It's there for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it for a reason. You know right
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: from wrong? You know what's disrespectful? You know what's going
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: to make her happy, you know what's going to make
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: her sad.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Just use it. That's funny. Jake's last one was kind
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: of very responsible. Yeah, my one, on the other hand,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: what's the bare minimum for the modern man being able
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: to make each other finish?
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, hopefully, hopefully.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Try try That's all you can do. Okay. Up next
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: is girl next Door or man eater? Jake, I wanted
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: to ask you to clarify what is a man eater?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: What is a man eater? Okay?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: A man eater is someone that looks like they're gonna
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: eat you up, spit you out, and break your heart.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: All right, That's what a man eater is.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: And the girl next door is a girl next door
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: is like I would say, you know that there's a song,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift song where it's like she wears shorts, skirts,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I wear T shirts, She's cheer captain and I'm on
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the bleachers. In that song, Taylor Swift is the girl
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: next door and she.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Is the man eater.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: The girl that she says is she's describing and what
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: we do on YouTube, it's get send in a couple
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: of pictures and we've got to figure out whether or
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: not they are a girl next door a man eater.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: So if you want some visuals, head on over to YouTube.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Otherwise the episode is going to be the same throughout. Okay,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: our next contestant is there's no way I'm pronouncing that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: We've got as that can't be her name. There's no way.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Alf half Papa do Polu half half Papa Dopolu. Let's
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: call it Papa, Let's call it Papa. Papa said absolutely
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: love the podcast. Have my permission to use my instuaff
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a Girl next Door versus man Eater?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Picture one, Picture one, hmmm, spicy the dress? Is that
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the little cut inside like the torso? Do you know
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: what stands out for me? What's it called? Wing? The
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: stuff on top of your eyelid shadow vibes chuck it
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: ere like that orange eye shadow. Don't you reckon?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like slick back with the ponies. I slip
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: back bun yeah, less man, need to slip back. Ponytail
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: is like I'm giving you something to hold on too.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm reading all the signs, the eye shadow, that little
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: cut in her torso? Did that? Yeah? I'm going to say.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Picture one, Picture two, this is matrix is fun.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Let me tell it. It's the leather jacket. I've never
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: seen anything not gonna lie. I really like that. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: rate it. I really like that. I rate it. But
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I tell you what I feel like.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: If I asked around on a date, she'd she'd be
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: expecting five stars, you know, she'd be expecting me to
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: bring her like a fucking bracelet, like a guoccy bracelet
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: as a gear. It's the black and Black goals, black
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: sonnies would man, I'd want to dodge her like the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: matrix I'm coming. And Picture three it's a bit of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: like a I don't know what they've found, a flowy
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: flamingo he dress.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Like the flowers on the front. Were they flowers? What
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: do you call it? Like it's called like a tinsel. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: she's giving me like Russian model vibes. You know what
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that vibe is.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, man Eater All three was that our
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: first sweep?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I think it is a clean sweep, clean sweep of
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: man Eater the whole way, Papa or sorry, but we're
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: looking in manaid. The caption was Merry Christmas, you feel
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the animals. That's man Ata as fuck. Agreed, Agreed, belave.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It to that. You know what to do if you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: want to get rated. Submitted on Instagram.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Okay up. Next is the lemmas sent in by you guys,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and this one's title is juicy Tea Alert. Last year
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: my brother's twenty first I got tipsy and ended up
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: hooking up with a mutual friend. Before things he got heated.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I asked if he still had a girlfriend and he
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: said no, but the next morning he confessed he had lied.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Now he occasionally messages me begging for a repeat performance
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: because it was in quotes so good. I've told him
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to back off unless he's single, but he's been persistent
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: until recently. Fast forward till today. He and his girlfriend
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: are no longer together, but still expecting a baby in November.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So do I spill the tea and tell his girlfriend
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: about his antics, potentially wrecking his future family plans? Or
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: do I just sit on the door, she said? Or
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: do I just sip on the tea and stay out
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of it. I have zero interest in him sexually anymore,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: but I can't help but wonder if I'm the only
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: one he's been getting cozy up to. What's your take?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: WHOA wait?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, are they're not together anymore, the guy and the girl. No,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but they've got a baby, so like, potentially there's a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: family going on there.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Look, because they're not together. Depending on how it ended,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: she may have caught him cheating with someone else anyway,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and it's ended. I would say, does this girl say
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: she knows the girl?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: No? I ah, okay? Should she just stay out of it?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You slept with him on a night out.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: You didn't know we had a girlfriend, and then it
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: come out that he had a girlfriend. Really you kind
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: of if you were going to tell her, you really
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: could have should have told her then? Yeah, exactlytead of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: waiting till now.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: But does she have a right to know? Is the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: girlfriend who's having her baby his baby? I mean, because
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: they're not together. No, she just sit on it? Should
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: she sit on it again? I'm kidding, I'm kidding, Im
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: kidding on gidding, on gidding. Should she sip on the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: tea as she would say if I was her?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I've just had sex with this guy and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: as he would say, round of applause, was great.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: He's asking to do it again. I'm like, no, you're
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: taking like this is the wrong thing to do. And out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Fast forward. I find out they've broken up and they're
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: having a kid together. But I feel like there's something
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in me that just wants to tell this girl what
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a dad of the child's going to has been doing.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if you should tell her in case they
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: do get back together in the future, I say leave it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: You can leave it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I say leave it because if they're a chance for
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: going to get back together in the future, that means
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that kid's going to have a non broken family.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Good point. I would say, leave it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I am agreeing it's unfortunately he's a shit dude, Yes,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: but now there's.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: A kid involved. I agree the benefit of the kid. Yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: leave it. Definitely leave it. Leave it, simple as that. Okay,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: up next, Guys, we often preach for a man to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: be in touch with their feelings and be an emotional
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: outlet for their girl. Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Notdy and I I wouldn't say we're the most in
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: touch of our feelings, but we do.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: We do well. We preach trying and that's what we're
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: going to do right now. So we both going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: say a time when we've both been hurt in.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Life, and I would like to point out so we
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: get a lot of dilemmas about it. So I think
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a cool It would be someone
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: that has a dilemma sitting that we may not have
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: read yet that's about them being hurt and maybe hearing
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: about us being hurt, and then how we dealt with
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it or how we didn't deal.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: With it good or or something. Yes, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's just opening up a little bit. And hopefully I've
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: never said mine. Really, he's going to go first. Yeah, thanks, Okay,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a time when I've been hurt. It's quite recent really,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So I've mentioned on the podcast before that my dad
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: has prostate cancer and there was a period of time
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: there where he wasn't looking that good. And however, right
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: now he's actually in remission and there's not many symptoms,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: almost point zero, which is really really good. But there
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was a period of time there where like it wasn't
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: looking good, and there on the cards were a timeframe
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of how long you'd have left to live, and in
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: my head, I was I was thinking there's no I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: was dwelling in my head that I might lose my dad.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any way like any person
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: can ever prepare for that, and when I was really hurt,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it was just like thinking of what life would be
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like without him. So my dilma hasn't really happened yet,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: but it's something that every person will eventually have to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: go through, and I don't think they can prepare for it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't think as a son, there's probably not
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: another man in the world I look up to rely
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: on and he's a shoulder to lean on other than
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: there's no other person I admire one dad, yeah, as
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: much as my dad, And I'd never have the I've
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: never had the thought before of like, what's my life
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: going to be like when my dad's not here? Do
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you think about that? You know? And I was really
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: really sad, And every time I think about it even
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: brings my eyes to a little bit of a water
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: because I'm like reality, Yeah, it was nearly a reality,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm not prepared for it, and I don't think
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: anyone ever can be prepared for it. And I was
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: just like, fuck, like this is just like life, Like
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: everyone goes through it and everyone gets through it, but
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to face that anytime soon.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Honestly, No, Yeah, that is ins I feel like, can
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you even even let's say, when you're older, do you
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: reckon you're ever ready for it?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I was like, surely everyone's parents
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: die and like when they're like thirty and then it happens.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But I don't think you can prepare for it. Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Like I'm twenty four almost and I'm just like twenty
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: fourth too early. Yeah, I think so, But it happens
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to a lot of people. We've had friends who's lost
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: their parents.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: We've got yeah, we've got quite a few actually, think
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: like five friends, I think so. Some of them have
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: lost their parents and then some of them have parents
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: And I was just I was just thinking to myself.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, there's no possible way I can ever
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: be ready for this. No, And it made me really
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: sad to like what life would be like without this
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: man in my life. Yeah. Fuck man. My message would takeaway.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Just tell the people around you love them, and make
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the most of them while they're here, because they're not
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: here forever. Get your prostate checked. Yeah, yeah, that's a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: good thing for men, even though we don't have a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: lot of men listening. Get checked early. I'm going to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: have to because it's genetic it's a genetic thing. Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: so when when will you get checked? When you get
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: checked at thirty, But I even might get it earlier.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I could.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I could have sworn that it was up to like fifty.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Now really I could be wrong, but.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: All the a lot of things we can'cer if you
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: get it early, you can treat it, you can yeah
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well that's see, that's that's something you know
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: about Audi now this is Yeah, that's the thing. We
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: kind of I feel like we wanted to be some
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: some sort of personal on the podcast. Yeah, mine would
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: be this is it's also very personal. It's like but
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it's like I don't know, it's kind of like.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Part of I guess my life, and.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Like because it also happened to me, I think it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: like I should be allowed to talk about it. I'm
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: going to go in like a series of events almost.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: So Audio and I went traveling up I think I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: think I've told you you're gonna know what I'm saying
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: for the first bit, and I think I have told
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you the second bit. So Audio and I went traveling
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: up the East Coast, Australia.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And when we left they had a girlfriend and.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I was just like probably pretty young, pretty dumb, pretty immature,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and I just wanted to go traveling with body, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: then also didn't like want to have a time frame
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and when I'd be home. And so this is what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I was telling her as well, like I was being
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: pretty fucking bad boyfriend of the sense of like I'm leaving.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't know when I'm coming back, and.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: COVID was happening pretty heavily down here where we are,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: and we were running away from it almost we were
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: getting pretty lucky, and so we were traveling and then
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I don't I stayed together for the first couple of weeks,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and then we got to a place up in ne
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: thear Early Beach or up pretty fun north somewhere, and.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: She ended up giving me an ultimatum like either either
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: come home or we're fucking breaking up. And so I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was like, well, I don't want to come home, and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and so then for the first so.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: We broke up, and like I think I was like
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I was like sad, but also like our relationship had
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: slowly been coming to an end, like I look back
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: at it now and I don't like, I mean, I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say a cringe, but I just look back at
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: it now and I'm just like.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: We knew, one hundred percent.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: We knew, and it's just funny to think how young
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: and done we were to hold onto it and not realize.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: But this is what you do it. You always do
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that when what you hold onto it for as long
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: as possible.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I suppose that's just what you do. Yeah, first love,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: first proper love. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely thought so.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Ah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So then after a few weeks of us breaking up,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know, like I was sweet for a while,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and then I can't say how it happened, but I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: just it's like a fucking literal switch in my brain
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: flicked all of a sudden, missed her, and then I
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: have a feeling what happened was. I think she just
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: messaged me by saying like hey, after a couple of weeks,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: like hey, how are you, and the like that's what
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I must I guess must have flicked the switch.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I remember, like your demeanor was a complete shift, like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it was weird, happy and bubbly, like traveling, and then
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, and I could see it. I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: saw the change in you.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just I cannot even explain it, because
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: so then all of a sudden, I had this feeling
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of missing her and thinking I fucked up. And then
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and like randomly was like I'd rather be traveling, like
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd rather fucking her, like fly up,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It was dumb.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And then and then so I called my step mom
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and I was talking to her about it because I've
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: grown up with divorced parents, so I've had this skew
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: if view on it for the longest time, and like
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: if you're marriage and all that, and I thought that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to be with anyone forever. I had
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that whole thought process that we get dilemmas all the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: time of like, oh, do I need to break up
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: with the person I'm with now because it doesn't really
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: work out when you're young in twenty and then do
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I need to be alone for a while and grow
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and then get in a relationship when I'm later in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: my twenties and and then that's going to work out
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: because I have more life experience, Like that's what That's
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: what my mindset was. And so then I think she
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: like I was on the phone with my step mom
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: was crying and she was just like, hey, you just
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: got to do what you fucking want to do, Like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: if you want to get back together, whether just say
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you want to get back together, what do whatever you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: want to do.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: She was like, she was good about it, and so.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Then I I think I told my girlfriend I want
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to get back together.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: She was like, oh, I don't know. My ex girlfriend sod.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I told my ex girlfriend I will get back to
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I don't know. And I was like, well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I'll come home and I don't want to see you.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So I just de said to Oddie, don't want to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: go home, which sucked. And then Audi was fucking so
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: good about it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I went home, like, drove back down, went home.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: And then when I.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Got home, I told her I was home and she
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm going through COVID. She was staying
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: at a family friend's place that she'd known since she
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: was like born and.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Never thought of him as a threat, by the.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Way, and so she goes, okay, like cool, whatever, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: she went and she was staying there for the week.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: So I got home for a full week I didn't
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: see her, and then she finally came home and we
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: saw each other blah blah blah hung out and then
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: in the end, like it was, she just was like
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: she just didn't want to and so I ended up
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: being like really heartbreaking from it from the breakup. And
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: then I think we were home for a while just fucking.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: It was maybe a month had maybe a month after
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I was home or something like that, and I do
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: remember this is what happened. Someone had messaged me on
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Instagram as in like a kind of like it wasn't her,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: it was just like a girl he had messed with Instagram,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: and I was messaging you about it and I said,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just not sure if I want to go through
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: with anything yet out of respect for X person max girlfriend.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And then Audie goes, I think, I don't know if
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you said this, but he was kind of like, noah,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: fuck that bitch.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I got something to tell you. I remember that. He
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I don't remember.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: He was like, she's been sleeping this guy from Sydney,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: and I was like.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I was so because I found out. I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: found out and I didn't tell you because I knew
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it would break her. And then this girl, like this
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: pretty girl, like I said, she wanted to hang out
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: with you and you're like, oh, I can't do it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: out of respect, and then I was like fuck yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm telling him.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And so then he told me, you know, I was
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: made it worse. I was like heartbroken, heartbroken. I needed
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: to hear it obviously. I was like I was like heartbroken, heartbroken,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and so and then after it was like that was
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: really I would say, that's like the most heartbroken I've bin.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I remember telling my parents and like, because I just
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: knew that there was no way I was going to
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: be able to like how fucking depressed I felt. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: so I remember telling my parents what happened, and they
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: was sturdy new and then it was just kind of
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: like they were just like, yeah, fuck, it is what
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: it is. Like they were supportive, and I was just like,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: you're actually is what it is. And so I just
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: ended up going about my days or whatever and I
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: just and it was just like fucking I just would like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: it's the most heart wrenching thing. And then so a
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: few months went by and we got up to Christmas
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and I was still.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Like getting over it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Ah, I definitely was nowhere near over her. This is
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty war and so twenty twenty one, and then
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I found out that she started dating the guy and
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit. I was like, how did
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: you move on so quick? I was like, this is crazy.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I was like in my head, I was like, you
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: know what, fuck, I hope that does.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Not work out for you.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't work out. I was like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: you moved on too quick. I doesn't work out for you.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: So basically I was like heartbroken. I couldn't sleep for
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the longest time because the heartbroken the first time, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: then I was starting to get good and then I
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: find out she starts dating this guy again. I went
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: through a few weeks of just shitty sleep.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I was sleeping shit heartbroken. And then.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: My sister came to visit Australia for Christmas. And this
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: is the part that I was unsure about telling on
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the podcast. My mom, for like a lot of my life,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: has struggled with.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Addiction.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And when my sister came for she came from Canada.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: When she came, she came out and then just I remember, like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: so I was still kind of fresh heartbreak. It's for
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the second round of it finding out she dating the guy,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and then my sister comes in. Like the day after
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: my sister comes, she comes out to where I was
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: stat we're both in at my parents' house. She comes
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: into my room, she was like, have you spoken.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: A And I was like what.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I was like no, She's like, oh, I was messaging
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: her she's and she's like fucking going on about how
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: she misses us, and then she's so sorry for everything
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: she's done to us, and I was like what. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: then she goes. And then I tried to call her
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and tell her everything's all good, but she won't answer.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: She won't reply, and Johanna said that in the message,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: she implied like she's going to miss us, and I
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: was like what. And so Johanna thinks that she's gonna
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: fucking kill herself, and so I started freaking out. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: for the longest time, I've had like a bit of
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a broken relationship with her because I just have like
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: struggled to forgive, struggle to forget, and like I do
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: sometimes like I'm sure anyone that has the same thing.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: He's like knows what I mean, But like you'd love
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: him because you love him, but sometimes you're just like
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: why the fuck can you not get it?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Under control.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: But I remember trying to get a hold of my
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: mom and I was like fucking tried to call her
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and call on her and coll on her Facebook and shit,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and she finally answered, she's like crying on the phone,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: and I just remember being like I genuinely, genuinely was like,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: oh fuck, like my mom's gonna kill herself because she's
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: just like relapsed and just can't handle it. And so
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: then eventually like we got a hold of my aunt
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: he that lives in the same town. She went over
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: there and she found her and like, my Mom's still alive, like.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: She's all good.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I just fucking remembered that mixed with
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the heartbreak. I remember it breaking me and Joanna, my
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: older sister. She was kind of all good after that,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: but I remember like I like was walking around, I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: was like having like heart palpitations, and I went and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I sat down like in this weird like part of
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: my parents' yard, like hidden, and I just like fucking
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: cried for like ten minutes, and I was like, what
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: is going on? And then my dad eventually came around.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: He was like, fuck, are you okay? And I just
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: was like I do I don't know how to take
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: this a it was like the weird I just couldn't anah,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: and then I don't even know.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It's just like.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Why don't know. I went to therapy once and just
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: like haven't felt the need.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: To go back. But that was years ago now, But
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I just think like probably a good thing to air
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: out and people understand that.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You know. I guess we have problems too, Yeah, we do.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: We're not perfect by any means, no, yeah, just fucking yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I think the hard I think giving advice on the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: hard times is like we've been through them.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Too, I guess. Yeah, everyone has their own stories. What
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: we could open up about ours? Yours? Yeah, that's that's
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a lot. And it's just a role on snowball effect
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: kind of thing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what Yeah, it just made its heartbreaking than that,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, holy sh it's like that thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It's always one thing after another when it rains a pause.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's it. Yeah, out of the fucking yeah, you're right.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: So sorry. If that was like a boring story, No,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I wasn't boring at all. Boring, But I just I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: think it's struggle. I think it's admirable how you opened
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: up because I know that's a hard thing for a dude,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah, especially the second part for the longest time.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the breakup thing, I don't care if that's out there,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Like the other thing is just it's just like I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: was a bit if you about airing out family drama.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think it's just I guess
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: everyone has it. That's the part of my life. Everyone
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: has it. And I think the more you talk about
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it and say that you're okay now and your mom's okay.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And like I guess if I don't want
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: anyone to think, like fuck I hate Jake's mum without
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: knowing her, like like I love my.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Mom, Yeah, yeah, like I do. I love my mom.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to Canada and all that, and in
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I've been, I've been to Canada after that, and I'm
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: going again obviously in June this year.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's just like I guess, I guess anyone
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: else that does deal with something like that, it'd be
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: interesting to know how they deal with it. Actually, to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, I assume there's some people out
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: there that have had parents with struggle, and I always
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: am really with the work that my sister does. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: always so with the work that my sister does. You
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: hear about a lot of bat you with families, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: now I am like, I'm very like I understand that
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: stuff that I've been through is hurtful, but I also
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: have like this mad like gratefulness after hearing some stuff,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: like I've always had a rif of a mad always
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: had clothes, never been hungry, I've always felt love for
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: my family. Like the only hurt that I feel is
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: that my mum struggles with these addictions. And just like
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the love for us kids doesn't fix the addiction. But
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: then you come to feel like the addiction is a disease.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: And but like I've never like I've never been hit.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I've always been yeah, like I've had a great upbringing.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Where each problem has the same magnitude to each person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's also it's good to normalize, Like, like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you said, we're not perfect. Everyone has. It's okay to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: be hurt and it's good to talk about it. Yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: It's like it's just good to get it out of
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: your system. It's something so beautiful and when humans talk
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: and you feel better. It's like a weight lifted off
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: your heart, your chest, everything going on, but yeah, you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: want to leave it on that yeah as well. Right,
• 39:51
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• 39:52
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• 40:05
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• 40:07
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• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Wednesday. Hope you like in the new shorter episodes. Love
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